Keep in mind that as a muslim he would've found using non-running water for bathing to be utterly revolting. So it's likely an embellishment or the water was switched out between uses. This wouldn't have made any difference to Ibn though and thus it goes unmentioned.
Imperium Americanum It’s clear it’s the same bowl he’s very descriptive , I’m sure Ibn Fadhlan wouldn’t have been disgusted if it was a clean bowl every time. Muslims do have baths, they don’t find that disgusting lol. Running water is needed to cleanse before praying!
@@Betrix5060 why do you assume the water was "switched out" each time? What is being described here is a total dominance ritual among violent alcoholic men who nonetheless are in a kind of military style brotherhood. Such a ritual, although yes obscenely disgusting to an Arab and to most of us today, would be a bonding and yet strictly hierarchical daily observance, keeping a firm pecking order established in a far off land. Modern militaries still have various initiations and bonding rituals, definitely once the alcohol starts flowing! Too many are projecting 21st century hypersensitive mindsets onto the past. Don't be one of them!
I love how the voice and personality of this more than 1000 year account becomes very clear. The narrator is clearly fascinated and excited by his travelling experience but his disgust about personal habits and open sex and uncleanliness is completely clear and completely hilarious.
As an arab im still amazed and disgusted about similar things westerners do nowadays like fast relations as women can go on a date with a stranger on tinder and have sex only an hour after knowing the guy... another disgusting thing westerners do is they don't wash their asses after pooping.. when we go to Europe for tourism we have to take a bath every time we poop as your bathrooms aren't equipped with what we call in the middle east "Shattafa"
All of those are just ridiculous stereotypes, I always shower after I shit, most people I know also take hygiene seriously, also just using water isn't the most sanitary option, you should wipe first and then wash yourself with soap, otherwise you're just gonna be spreading the bacteria everywhere.
@@RandyAndyShow bruhh what stereotypes? It’s well-know how it’s common for girls to have sex before marriage in the west and that westerners wipe and don’t use water
This is incredible! First hand accounts, narrated with total clarity, while remaining wonderfully evocative. This channel is a real gem. Thanks for your sterling endeavours and generosity of spirit in sharing them. 👍
Are you serious? That's disturbingly amazing. * * I have learned More in the last few weeks putting the pieces of knowledge I had together *in contemporary context* with the use of channel. Very, very important work. Thank you.
@@VoicesofthePast Yes, but I'm very serious; having contemporary accounts of History that we we're given minus those accounts brings a refreshing illumination, for lack of a better word I assure you, that brings a familiar reality, whether wanted or not, as does Shelby Foote the Civil War a narrative. Contemporary account give history life. Thus, " *a good name* is rather to be chosen than great riches, and loving favour rather than silver and gold" and " *a good name* is better than precious ointment; and the day of death than the day of one's birth."
At least everyone had sex with her before she was killed, and that one dude even wanted her to let her master know that he had also gotten all up in it but most importantly the other two slaves couldn't hear the one being sacrificed scream as the crone stabbed her. My opinions are too modern for me to be okay with what I heard, even if it was an important ritual. I'm not saying I'm better than they were, no nothing like that... What it did was make me feel very uneasy, and I'm fine with admitting that. I'm glad this history still exists, no matter how uncomfortable it may be, I'm happy it has not been forgotten because it all was far more than just rape and ritual murder.
Galloe There is nothing wrong with judging the morality of things, past or present. These were sadistic and animalistic savages, even by ancient standards; Romans, Christians and Arabs would have regarded it with as much disgust and disapproval as you, if not more. Some things simply are Natural Law, and these Norse excel at breaking that.
The Viking for centuries traversed the world and ran into many cultures, raided & captured many European lands and great cities. It’s remarkable the short encounters they had with Ibn Fadhlan has given us the world a priceless account & is still the best document or source material on the Legendary Warrior Vikings.
There's also a lecture by Prof. Neil Price describing the Vikings in the 8-11th century, and Ahmed Ibn Fadlan encounter with them are also in it. It's quite interesting. th-cam.com/video/uu2gN8n15_A/w-d-xo.html
My wife comes from Lowestoft in Suffolk. This was a part of England occupied by the Danes. When we were courting in 1973, she took me to a ceremony called the "Burning of the Wherry". A wherry is a sailing vessel mostly used for carrying goods and a few can still be seen in that area. They placed a small boat in the broad (a stretch of open water) which was covered in gold coloured paper. Then a number of other boats circled round it and the occupants threw in burning torches so that it caught fire and burned out. I asked my (then fiancee) how long they had been doing this. She said it had been done every year for centuries. Make of that what you will.
@@jinnbuster4753 oh yes it was I'm guessing. These days dating ain't worth anything. It hasn't worked out well. Plus most of the dates end up with casual sex so people jump from one person to another
Thankfully the viking savages were conquered and became cheese traders otherwise I don't want to imagine what their piracy they would be enacting on innocents
My father was born in the town of Lovov. A Viking settlement. In the 1898. He told me that many still at that time practiced these discussing practice of washing after one eachother still then.
@@sagapoetic8990 incredibly horrible. Isn't it man. In the army I've done some time without bathing water. But that just takes the Cake man! I could never do that!
Sounds similar to breathing the same air as hundreds of strangers on a long-distance flight. Or shitting in public where you can get splash on you. Or touching toilet flushers and door knobs in public bathrooms. And touching utensils at buffets. And...
You're behind the times. "Eaters of the Dead" is based on this accounts, then the movie the 13th Warrior was based on Eaters of the Dead, brought to you by the guy who created ER.
Parts of the funeral and trading life are portrayed in the film, "The 13th Warrior", which was adapted from the novel by Michael Crichton. It researched the writings of Ibn Fadlan extensively,
@@karakhan2070 Quite the opposite my friend. Women and men were equal, unlike anywhere else. Slaves were still slaves tho.The christians brought that "women are less" attitude to us.
the Movie had something very wrong which was the nature of Ibn Fadlan , the movie show him as a weak Coward person when in reality he spend 10 years as the leftunent of capable general called muhammed ibn salman , he had trmendous knowleg of warfare and that was one of the reasons to chsose him beacuse he was manly sent to the king of bulgar who wanted to build castles and deffence means and to learn about islam .
@@sultanmomenofzenata177 Eh, Hollywood, what are you going to do. But in fact, I think they just showed him as not being a beast of a barbarian in terms of raw strength, just to further contrast him against the Vikings. He was shown to be fairly proficient with a sabre (obviously, the whole thing was asinine, swords are not that heavy, and sabres are not rapiers. Just the usual contrived theatrics)
@@raritica8409 There's a difference between enslaving and treating the slaves with dignity and treating them like absolute garbage. Slavery still exists today just in different forms, there will always be slavery.
Imagine living that life. I don't mean the life of the people drinking heavily and having sex out in the open. I mean imagine being one of the slaves. People romanticize certain places and time periods. But that's because in their imaginations they put themselves in a position with a favorable living. Imagine being born a slave or being captured, then having to serve all your life, and then being murdered when your master died. Yeah the women volunteered to die. Probably just as a way out. Put yourself in the shoes of an individual who was born, then lived a horrible life, and then was murdered. What an existence. I feel very bad for some of the beings who have existed on this earth. Some folks never stood a chance. The world is a horrible place. Evil is very strong on this planet, I'd hate to see hell.
@@wenzelplot The Imperial Colonies were heaven compared to the Russian Gulags. Your statement as to the "soft stuff" is absurd. An old Russian proverb says it best: Man is Wolf to Man..
@@michaels1416 Russian Gulags are bad for sure, but you said it best yourself. Humanity has boundless potential for cruelty and violence. It gets plenty worse.
Very well narrated, I felt like I was sitting by a campfire listening to the author recant his travels. My schooling definitely left out the more sensitive topics when they talked about water and fire burials.. very interesting and to be honest, disconcerting to modern day culture. This has inspired me to learn more
Well, that wash-ritual certainly explains why the Vikings were so darn healthy despite how they travel to faraway lands with alien germs -- they've ritualized giving germs to one another to build their bodily immunity.
Its funny how the cleanliness is in the eye of the beholder - for a Muslim Noble of Baghdad (at that time the greatest city there had ever been) they were dirty as shit, however for the contempoary anglo-saxons they were sinningly clean, the anglo saxon clergy condemmed their vainfull cleanly habits and warned the anglo-saxon womon from being led astray by these clean wellgromed danes with all their bling bling and sweet talk...
Alot of autoimmune issues can be traced back to vikings. Having a sensitive immune system in their culture helped keep them safe but in todays world it leads allergy and the immune system attacking the body.
Yes these devils would eat dead people & drink blood from skulls. They were the most despised "people" on Earth. They lived in the most inhumane ways thinkable.
the Movie had something very wrong which was the nature of Ibn Fadlan , the movie show him as a weak Coward person when in reality he spend 10 years as the leftunent of capable general called muhammed ibn salman , he had trmendous knowleg of warfare and that was one of the reasons to chsose him beacuse he was manly sent to the king of bulgar who wanted to build castles and deffence means and to learn about islam .
Oh...... So this Arab historian did really exist. I saw him in the movie the 13th warrior but I thought he was a fictional character. I noticed that he had the same name as the movie character
the movie based off a book "Eaters of The Dead." this book basically compiled Ibn Fadlan journals & make it as a coherent story in a more scientific manners. Also the book kinda explained the possibility of Beowulf's legend is actually real & basically a war between vikings & ancient tribes (possibly neanderthal people).
@@user-hh2is9kg9j there's currently 20% of Neanderthal DNA survived in modern human, mostly from Eastern Europe and they been associated with European having red hair/ ginger. There's a video about it, but it seem had been deleted or move 🙄
the 1% :D Most scandinavians weren't vikings like this. They were back home trying to grow something for the boss man in the few months you can grow stuff. These are the risk takers, like extremely rapey drunk astronauts.
Really amazing to see a channel bringing primary sources to life like this. I haven't been able to get enough of this channel ever since my appreciation for the History Time channel. So very good
@Simon Simon It was sarcasm from modern person's perspective. I'm not sure if these guys knew how bacteria transfer. They might have have thought water cleans the dirt, the 'little dirt' that spit etc have.
@@Ibian666 Aside from the Biblical New Testament, there are many sources that confirm Jesus of Nazareth. His life, death and resurrection are reported by The Roman reports of Pliny The Elder, and Tacitus, as well as in the Jewish writings of Josephus and in the Talmud. Even the Koran acknowledges Jesus however they do not acknowledge that He is God and is a person of the Trinity. Jesus was absolutely a historically proven human that existed. The real question was, who do you say He was?
@@happycamper3561 A book of fairy tales does not count as evidence of anything, except mental deficiency in the person who attempts to provide it as evidence. Link the supposed sources you have, let's see them.
Did i just listen to a first hand witness account of slavery, sexual abuse and human sacrifice? ... Sobering. Grim, but i think i needed to know, anyways. Thanks for retelling.
Read the land of darkness by Marco Polo. His description of these beasts is just as horrible. He refers to them as dim whitted. They were clearly a lowly sub-human people with no sense of civilized life.
I first heard about Ibn Fadlan's account in Michael Crichton's book "Eaters of the Dead." Of course that was a work of fiction- it's nice to hear the real thing.
The Viking rus came from Roslagen in Sweden and then went east all the way to Constantinople. They served as the Varangian Guard for the emperor! I have heard Ibn Fadlans description before but only in part so to hear this detailed version was very interesting! Great video!! :)
Also - Roslagen means ~ Rus "team". Meaning a "ship team" (skeppslag) - the locals who were able to go viking. In Svitjod (pretty much the Roslagen area north of Stockholm, where the Swedes came from) there are lots of place names like that. People who watches things like this might get confused and think, "Swedes? Oh, those from Sweden" and forget that this is hundreds of years before there was a Sweden. Like, the Goths, Geats and other tribes/peoples living in what's now Sweden back then would be pissed knowing they would be called Swedes thousands of years later.
So Russian women endlessly demanded jewelry and gifts from supplicant husbands, demanding greater and greater symbols of status. So nothing has changed.
@@beverlybalius9303 they are also here in Ireland, I see them every time I talk to them, you can see them by the eyes, Saoirse Ronan is one example of a norman.
My goodness, your channel is my newest favorite! Great job with these videos, its exactly the sort of thing I enjoy most, it seems to be the most credible way of feeling what someone from history felt! Awesome job!😊
Hey @Voices of the Past. Glad you gave this account, but Ibn Fadlan did say more about the Rus, he gave a rather good explanation on the "nation" of Rus vis-a-vis the nation of slavs that were living with them as their subordinates for example. He also gave great accounts of the Rus and the slavs, their customs and their looks. Btw, can you give an account of south slavs and serbs by the arabs? I don't know if it was Ibn Fadlan, it could very well have been Ibn Battuta or Ibn Yaqub. But they had some weird shit to say, to say the least.
@@kareemtheeb1478 "tall as date palms and beautiful, but do not get fooled. These are savage like the fiercest of lions " or something like that. No idea why lol.
Can't be Ibn Battuta, he never traveled to a none Islamic country, he kinda... Feared none Muslims, the only none Muslims he encountered were Chinese Buddhists, while we was traveling to meet Chinese Muslims, he liked their culture overall, but kept spamming about their cuisine. That's what I understood from his book.
You know, with the Northman releasing, God of war, marvel movies with Thor, the show Vikings, The Mythical Norse stuff almost feels played out. But this makes it all feel real again. That quote 16:29 is pretty incredible
I've found my self listening to the voices of the past alot..you only after know abit about the subject to imagine the activities been listed.amazing our history is and the different cultures we have.whats the norm for one civ is idotic to the other lol...very interesting
Thank you for clarifying the death ritual of the female slave. I had previously watched a show on television, that had a viking funeral. I had missed part of the show but the part that I saw had a woman being lifted up and down. As she was lifted she said that she saw her mother and father and sisters and brothers, etc; in Valhalla. Then they showed the boat, burning. I have been curious about this for a long time, wondering if it were factual in any way or just a fictitious embellishment.
It was fictitious embellishment. They were not as tall as palm trees, they were not completely covered in ink, these are verifiable facts. So we can conclude that all else this arab muslim said is just as false or at best a huge exaggeration.
@@user-ye6ty9ie8g th-cam.com/video/uu2gN8n15_A/w-d-xo.html here is a link to a video by Professor Niel Price using this account to narrate archeological findings he had studied. From his lecture it is pretty obvious that the archeological evidences actually back up this account. What is yoir evidence of this being purposely made false and what's the profit of it for the Ibn dude anyway since he just stumbled upon them on his way somewhere else. This is serious, you can't just proclaim some accounts as false whilst being ignorant. For this case I'll take a professor and an archeologist words over a random hurt feelings on internet.
@@user-ye6ty9ie8g Lol, just watch this. th-cam.com/video/uu2gN8n15_A/w-d-xo.html Prof. Niel really gave very detailed archeological finds that very much support this Ahmad dude Accounts. Besides, from this account alone it's very clearly that this is his first time seeing a northmen. That only meant he found the vikings during his stay in the Bulghar kingdom, under the protection of king Almish nonetheless. Why would he making up when it's never a beneficial for him?
About the parts about the basin I've read that Fadlan was not saying they were using the same water to wash, only that they were using the same basin without performing the specific cleansing rituals Fadlan was used to.
I like the way the Vikings make a lot of noise when they murder their defenseless girls to trick the others when it's their turn. They are so noble and free.
Comimg back to this, great that you made a recording of this. If these are indeed people of a Germanic tradition, could it be that the 'angel of death' is what we would call a Walkyrie? Or is the Walkyrie too much of a mythical person to be represented by a real person? I wonder. Maybe she's simply a priestess, who knows...
8:09 came here from Max Millers video. And I must say, his video doesnt talk about how awful it was to be a viking slave. So i thought, why would one of them agree to be sacrified? But now it makes sense. To end their suffering. Thats why theres always one who agrees. Because the master probably has a "favorite" that he abuses more that the rest.
There is a huge fascination and revival of paganism in Russia recently. Perhaps more with the peoples romantic idealization of how the Rus pagans were. If they actually study the historical sources on how these people lived, I don't think they would be so positively inclined anymore.
can you tell me what is the outro music starting from 17:08 ? I can't seem to find it and I really like it. edit: please tell me the melody stuck in my head please 🥺🥺
The abundance of riches, animals and even humans sacrificed or given to the gods of the time is unimaginably enormous. Funny to think how their offerings were essentially pointless and mearly a waste. Such a shame for those that fell victim to this practice. I'm sure they unknowingly slayed future inventors, leaders and scholats that, had the lived, would have changed the world.
vikings didnt care to record their hostory or their way of life, if it wasnt for these few ppl who recorded what they saw, we would have no idea about how the viking existed, or we would prob have forgoten them ike we did with many many other civilizations, so thx ibn fadhlan
I only know of idrissi and ibn fadlan , maybe they ain't enough but still, few unfiltered truthful words better than thousands pages of legends regarding the topic
The last guy to get the wash basin had some slick ass hair
Keep in mind that as a muslim he would've found using non-running water for bathing to be utterly revolting. So it's likely an embellishment or the water was switched out between uses. This wouldn't have made any difference to Ibn though and thus it goes unmentioned.
Hans Chitzlinger 😂😂😂
Imperium Americanum It’s clear it’s the same bowl he’s very descriptive , I’m sure Ibn Fadhlan wouldn’t have been disgusted if it was a clean bowl every time. Muslims do have baths, they don’t find that disgusting lol. Running water is needed to cleanse before praying!
The Infidel correctamundo amigo
@@Betrix5060 why do you assume the water was "switched out" each time? What is being described here is a total dominance ritual among violent alcoholic men who nonetheless are in a kind of military style brotherhood. Such a ritual, although yes obscenely disgusting to an Arab and to most of us today, would be a bonding and yet strictly hierarchical daily observance, keeping a firm pecking order established in a far off land. Modern militaries still have various initiations and bonding rituals, definitely once the alcohol starts flowing! Too many are projecting 21st century hypersensitive mindsets onto the past. Don't be one of them!
I love how the voice and personality of this more than 1000 year account becomes very clear. The narrator is clearly fascinated and excited by his travelling experience but his disgust about personal habits and open sex and uncleanliness is completely clear and completely hilarious.
As an arab im still amazed and disgusted about similar things westerners do nowadays like fast relations as women can go on a date with a stranger on tinder and have sex only an hour after knowing the guy... another disgusting thing westerners do is they don't wash their asses after pooping.. when we go to Europe for tourism we have to take a bath every time we poop as your bathrooms aren't equipped with what we call in the middle east "Shattafa"
culture shock at its finest
All of those are just ridiculous stereotypes, I always shower after I shit, most people I know also take hygiene seriously, also just using water isn't the most sanitary option, you should wipe first and then wash yourself with soap, otherwise you're just gonna be spreading the bacteria everywhere.
@@kanoteam nice stereotypes mate.
@@RandyAndyShow bruhh what stereotypes? It’s well-know how it’s common for girls to have sex before marriage in the west and that westerners wipe and don’t use water
This is incredible! First hand accounts, narrated with total clarity, while remaining wonderfully evocative. This channel is a real gem. Thanks for your sterling endeavours and generosity of spirit in sharing them. 👍
What kind words! Thanks very much
@@VoicesofthePast you're more than welcome - thank _you!_ 👍
Yes the church did similar things to Jews and heretics for 1945 years.
@@Nudnik1 What?? Wrong thread, Mr Head.
@@Nudnik1 they deserved it
"They are addicted to alcohol"
speaking as a descendant of vikings: We still are.
Yes we are
I was thinking, "...Yeah sounds like most of my friends and I... haha
"Drinking is the joy of the Rus." -Vladimir the great
Who's in for some mead?
Rus have never been Vikings tho
Are you serious? That's disturbingly amazing.
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I have learned More in the last few weeks putting the pieces of knowledge I had together *in contemporary context* with the use of channel.
Very, very important work. Thank you.
Thanks! The videos should hopefully complement other historians quite well
@@VoicesofthePast Yes, but I'm very serious; having contemporary accounts of History that we we're given minus those accounts brings a refreshing illumination, for lack of a better word I assure you, that brings a familiar reality, whether wanted or not, as does Shelby Foote the Civil War a narrative. Contemporary account give history life. Thus, " *a good name* is rather to be chosen than great riches, and loving favour rather than silver and gold" and " *a good name* is better than precious ointment; and the day of death than the day of one's birth."
The whole part with regarding the slave preparing herself for death was quite saddening to hear.
the whole thing is sad and disgusting!
At least everyone had sex with her before she was killed, and that one dude even wanted her to let her master know that he had also gotten all up in it but most importantly the other two slaves couldn't hear the one being sacrificed scream as the crone stabbed her.
My opinions are too modern for me to be okay with what I heard, even if it was an important ritual. I'm not saying I'm better than they were, no nothing like that... What it did was make me feel very uneasy, and I'm fine with admitting that.
I'm glad this history still exists, no matter how uncomfortable it may be, I'm happy it has not been forgotten because it all was far more than just rape and ritual murder.
@@galloe8933 "Intercourse" likely means that they were kissing.
胡元Jön No, it doesn’t.
Galloe There is nothing wrong with judging the morality of things, past or present. These were sadistic and animalistic savages, even by ancient standards; Romans, Christians and Arabs would have regarded it with as much disgust and disapproval as you, if not more. Some things simply are Natural Law, and these Norse excel at breaking that.
The Viking for centuries traversed the world and ran into many cultures, raided & captured many European lands and great cities. It’s remarkable the short encounters they had with Ibn Fadhlan has given us the world a priceless account & is still the best document or source material on the Legendary Warrior Vikings.
The way he describe events , people , locations amazed me
"best document or source material" definitely not lol. Probably the worst primary source we gave actually. Highly dubious accuracy to say the last.
There's also a lecture by Prof. Neil Price describing the Vikings in the 8-11th century, and Ahmed Ibn Fadlan encounter with them are also in it. It's quite interesting.
th-cam.com/video/uu2gN8n15_A/w-d-xo.html
These legendary warriors where just a bunch of idiotic filthy drunkyards who gave no importance to anyone's life.
My ancestors were fearless men. I respect them often and pray to our gods often.
SKÁL
My wife comes from Lowestoft in Suffolk. This was a part of England occupied by the Danes. When we were courting in 1973, she took me to a ceremony called the "Burning of the Wherry". A wherry is a sailing vessel mostly used for carrying goods and a few can still be seen in that area.
They placed a small boat in the broad (a stretch of open water) which was covered in gold coloured paper. Then a number of other boats circled round it and the occupants threw in burning torches so that it caught fire and burned out. I asked my (then fiancee) how long they had been doing this. She said it had been done every year for centuries. Make of that what you will.
I love how u say courting instead of the word dating lol. I know ur old school.
@@KD400_ Thank you. It was a more gentle age then.
@@jinnbuster4753 oh yes it was I'm guessing. These days dating ain't worth anything. It hasn't worked out well. Plus most of the dates end up with casual sex so people jump from one person to another
Thankfully the viking savages were conquered and became cheese traders
otherwise I don't want to imagine what their piracy they would be enacting on innocents
0:47 to anyone wondering, he means tattoos
No shit Sherlock.
I actually didn't get it until I saw the comment. Thanks
@@hajjibarbara2900 Elementary, dear Watson 🔎
Thanks for reminding
Black vikings: raids the neighborhood
also Black Vikings: *gets caught* dindonuffin
My father was born in the town of Lovov. A Viking settlement. In the 1898. He told me that many still at that time practiced these discussing practice of washing after one eachother still then.
I was in the Peace Corp in Kazakhstan and lived in a couple of villages, and saw this too
@@sagapoetic8990 incredibly horrible. Isn't it man. In the army I've done some time without bathing water. But that just takes the Cake man! I could never do that!
Sounds similar to breathing the same air as hundreds of strangers on a long-distance flight.
Or shitting in public where you can get splash on you.
Or touching toilet flushers and door knobs in public bathrooms.
And touching utensils at buffets.
And...
@@mrkenlewis it sounds nothing like that.
Last Word - I was simply aiming to point out how a hundred years from now man might look back at some of our ways as falling into the same category.
This makes me want to watch The 13th Warrior again.
Try reading the book, is much better. Forgot to say it's titled "The Eaters of the Dead " by Michael Crichton , author of Jurassic Park.
The 13th Warrior will seem like a Disney movie after this recounting...lol... I actually have that movie on DVD.
nostra rex? morte est...
et dicis quid infernum?
@@ufosrusYou can listen to the audiobook of eater of the dead on youtube. its a good quality one as well, cheers!
And here i, an Irish person, still smarting over what Gerald of Wales wrote about us......This makes me feel much better....
Was he the one who talked about an Irishwoman preparing a meal for her family and guests by chewing something and spitting it out?
@MSA3D A I heard it on a BBC Northern Ireland radio series called "A Brief History of Ireland" or something.
i liked the part where he said all irish men drag an axe around with them, to more readily murder anyone who displeases them
@@_00_36 Sounds Irish.
@@_00_36 same
I love how the narrator gasps with exasperation.
it's Ibn Batuta , a famous explorer who traavelled the world......
@@gustavelchapo2919 Ibn Battuta was in the 13th CE. This guy here named Ahmad ibn Fadlan, a 10th century explorer.
That's the narrator trying a bit of voice acting. It's hammy, distracting and unnecessary.
@@gustavelchapo2919 no thats a different ibn
@@rollomaughfling380 Must disagree
You can tell the show Vikings used this source heavily
13th Warrior used it down to the exact wash scene described
Where exactly did those show any female slave sacrifice?
@@c0nstantin86 I think it was the end of season1 or early season 2 when they did the funeral for the evil jarl
You're behind the times. "Eaters of the Dead" is based on this accounts, then the movie the 13th Warrior was based on Eaters of the Dead, brought to you by the guy who created ER.
@@deanfirnatine7814 That's because is from the same source. Read Michael Chrichton's book, Eaters of the Dead.
"Lo, I see my master. He bids me stay here and watch the fire & to send Ingrid instead."
Ingrid: Oh that's funny because I just had a quick chat with your master and he said he was just kidding and that he actually wants you to go Hilda
😂
Did you hear how many times the sex slave was raped? Pretty sure she was happy for it to be over.
Parts of the funeral and trading life are portrayed in the film, "The 13th Warrior", which was adapted from the novel by Michael Crichton. It researched the writings of Ibn Fadlan extensively,
definitely comes to mind - especially the scene with the communal bowl!
2:30 Ah yes I really wanted to know what the Rus' liked:
Gangbanging.
Ch The most innocent description of a gang bang
They had zero respect for their own women... Their women were obviously not deserving of any respect. 🤣😂🤣
Or as in Rome, an Orgie.
@@karakhan2070 Quite the opposite my friend. Women and men were equal, unlike anywhere else. Slaves were still slaves tho.The christians brought that "women are less" attitude to us.
@@jantekjantek Equal? Naw you definitely know nothing about that society.
This text was in part the inspiration for The 13th Warrior movie with Antonio Banderas.
The washing scene is directly pulled from the text.
Excellent movie, as is the book.
... and the viking funeral scene, too.
the Movie had something very wrong which was the nature of Ibn Fadlan , the movie show him as a weak Coward person when in reality he spend 10 years as the leftunent of capable general called muhammed ibn salman , he had trmendous knowleg of warfare and that was one of the reasons to chsose him beacuse he was manly sent to the king of bulgar who wanted to build castles and deffence means and to learn about islam .
@@sultanmomenofzenata177 Eh, Hollywood, what are you going to do. But in fact, I think they just showed him as not being a beast of a barbarian in terms of raw strength, just to further contrast him against the Vikings.
He was shown to be fairly proficient with a sabre (obviously, the whole thing was asinine, swords are not that heavy, and sabres are not rapiers. Just the usual contrived theatrics)
@@sultanmomenofzenata177
He was also much older than he was shown in the movie.
Great video. Viking history is my favorite subject of the Midieval period. Love Voices of the Past and history time channels!
Thanks for watching!
'They cut a dog in two and....'
🤣🤣 So casual
Them dogs gotta be careful
Incredible source - can't wait to upload my video on ibn Fadlan!
Hurrah! Send me a message when it's out and i'll link to it
@@VoicesofthePast will do!
@array s Like all historical accounts?
This was gut-wrenching. What a terrible life and death for a poor slave.
It's sadder when you think the poor young girl was just desparate to see her parents who she was snatched from to be enslaved.
At least she didn't die a virgin. 😂
Don’t take it to heart. If you are alive today, and live in your native land, then your ancestors likely did the enslaving. Cheers to history!
Living in your native land doesn't matter, most people's ancestors did slavery and were also slaves. Doesn't make it any less sad@@raritica8409
@@raritica8409 There's a difference between enslaving and treating the slaves with dignity and treating them like absolute garbage. Slavery still exists today just in different forms, there will always be slavery.
Imagine living that life. I don't mean the life of the people drinking heavily and having sex out in the open. I mean imagine being one of the slaves. People romanticize certain places and time periods. But that's because in their imaginations they put themselves in a position with a favorable living. Imagine being born a slave or being captured, then having to serve all your life, and then being murdered when your master died. Yeah the women volunteered to die. Probably just as a way out. Put yourself in the shoes of an individual who was born, then lived a horrible life, and then was murdered. What an existence. I feel very bad for some of the beings who have existed on this earth. Some folks never stood a chance. The world is a horrible place. Evil is very strong on this planet, I'd hate to see hell.
Yeah slavery is usually pretty bleak. This is soft stuff compared to imperial colonies though.
@@wenzelplot The Imperial Colonies were heaven compared to the Russian Gulags.
Your statement as to the "soft stuff" is absurd.
An old Russian proverb says it best: Man is Wolf to Man..
@@michaels1416 Russian Gulags are bad for sure, but you said it best yourself. Humanity has boundless potential for cruelty and violence. It gets plenty worse.
You had to make something of yourself in those times. Bad for some, yes, but isn't that the same as now, but on a world scale?
Yes I had exactly the same thoughts while watching. World would better without people on it.
I found this to be one of your most interesting videos to date. Thank you.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it
Very well narrated, I felt like I was sitting by a campfire listening to the author recant his travels. My schooling definitely left out the more sensitive topics when they talked about water and fire burials.. very interesting and to be honest, disconcerting to modern day culture. This has inspired me to learn more
Which country is your school system in a Viking country?
School isn't going to teach u this unfortunately
Well, that wash-ritual certainly explains why the Vikings were so darn healthy despite how they travel to faraway lands with alien germs -- they've ritualized giving germs to one another to build their bodily immunity.
That makes sense actully but they were well know to consume plenty of honey even in their alcohol.
What is Rita Mordio doing here?
@@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx their beer - Mead was made from honey. Really sweet beer.
Its funny how the cleanliness is in the eye of the beholder - for a Muslim Noble of Baghdad (at that time the greatest city there had ever been) they were dirty as shit, however for the contempoary anglo-saxons they were sinningly clean, the anglo saxon clergy condemmed their vainfull cleanly habits and warned the anglo-saxon womon from being led astray by these clean wellgromed danes with all their bling bling and sweet talk...
Alot of autoimmune issues can be traced back to vikings. Having a sensitive immune system in their culture helped keep them safe but in todays world it leads allergy and the immune system attacking the body.
There is a book based on these passages called Eaters of the Dead. Its amazing & was the concept for the movie adaptation The 13th Warrior.
that's a good movie!
@@zettle2345 it sure is! The main reason why i left the info 😉
Yes these devils would eat dead people & drink blood from skulls. They were the most despised "people" on Earth. They lived in the most inhumane ways thinkable.
the Movie had something very wrong which was the nature of Ibn Fadlan , the movie show him as a weak Coward person when in reality he spend 10 years as the leftunent of capable general called muhammed ibn salman , he had trmendous knowleg of warfare and that was one of the reasons to chsose him beacuse he was manly sent to the king of bulgar who wanted to build castles and deffence means and to learn about islam .
@@karakhan2070 You are conflating the Rus with the "Eaters of the dead" who were the the "Bad guys" they fought against in the book & film.
This morning I washed my beard in my wife's tea and then spit in it. I told her I was recreating history for her.
First spit, than wash
pff, heathens...
@@tibbar20111987 lol!
Ex-wife now I'm guessing.
@@HighDeafRadio lol! No, I didn't really do it. We're ten years strong and going!
Bet she had a hell of a time washing hers in it.
Michael Crichton used this tale to preface his take on Beowolf, which became one of my all-time favorite movies!
Great video!
Thanks for watching!
Oh...... So this Arab historian did really exist. I saw him in the movie the 13th warrior but I thought he was a fictional character. I noticed that he had the same name as the movie character
the movie based off a book "Eaters of The Dead." this book basically compiled Ibn Fadlan journals & make it as a coherent story in a more scientific manners. Also the book kinda explained the possibility of Beowulf's legend is actually real & basically a war between vikings & ancient tribes (possibly neanderthal people).
@@crozraven The ancient tribes more realistically would be Sami people. In the early middle ages their territories extended far more south.
@@crozraven Holy fuck!! neanderthal people!!! tell me the source?
@@user-hh2is9kg9j مرحب يا ابن العم
@@user-hh2is9kg9j
there's currently 20% of Neanderthal DNA survived in modern human, mostly from Eastern Europe and they been associated with European having red hair/ ginger. There's a video about it, but it seem had been deleted or move 🙄
I think this was a "biker sect" of the Viking community...
Local 81 founding fathers..
@ᛏᛟᚱᛋᛏᛖᚾ ᚺᚨᚴᛟᚾᛋᛟᚾ chapter 81 Sweden
the 1% :D Most scandinavians weren't vikings like this. They were back home trying to grow something for the boss man in the few months you can grow stuff. These are the risk takers, like extremely rapey drunk astronauts.
Well, Vikings were essentially Norse pirates so...
@@Karl_Marksman extremely rapey drunk astronauts 😂 🍻👌👈
That is a horrifying funeral
It really depends on a viewpoint, as the deceased you would be having quite a blast :)
@Loonytoones85 wtf, cannibalism?
@Loonytoones85 yo, this is interesting. I will search it up.
I would like to go back in time just to Slap then All across the Face
@Loonytoones85 Don't I Know It !
Really amazing to see a channel bringing primary sources to life like this. I haven't been able to get enough of this channel ever since my appreciation for the History Time channel. So very good
Thanks for watching!
You have a delivery style that gives a sense of the writers' experiences from such a broad range of eras and cultures. Admirable. Love it 😎
The wash basin of motivation reminding every morning: you sure try to rise in the society.
@Simon Simon It was sarcasm from modern person's perspective. I'm not sure if these guys knew how bacteria transfer. They might have have thought water cleans the dirt, the 'little dirt' that spit etc have.
Hardcore doesnt seem to fully describe that funeral
The narrator was very good, clear voice without being monotonous.
Dude ..... Your channel ROCKS!!!!!!
Thanks very much!
A faithful delivery. My thanks from Denmark.
Jesus is Lord
@@happycamper3561 Prove that this jesus person existed in the first place.
@@Ibian666 Aside from the Biblical New Testament, there are many sources that confirm Jesus of Nazareth. His life, death and resurrection are reported by The Roman reports of Pliny The Elder, and Tacitus, as well as in the Jewish writings of Josephus and in the Talmud. Even the Koran acknowledges Jesus however they do not acknowledge that He is God and is a person of the Trinity. Jesus was absolutely a historically proven human that existed. The real question was, who do you say He was?
@@happycamper3561 A book of fairy tales does not count as evidence of anything, except mental deficiency in the person who attempts to provide it as evidence. Link the supposed sources you have, let's see them.
Did i just listen to a first hand witness account of slavery, sexual abuse and human sacrifice? ... Sobering. Grim, but i think i needed to know, anyways. Thanks for retelling.
And we are more civilized today. We sanction other countries that kill thousands of children. At least we wash our hands first.
Just like church did.
@@Nudnik1 no, not at all like the church did, lmao
Don't forget most of these issues weren't even attempted to be solved till the 1900s
@@bailey7095 enlightenment 1700s
Great video. Viking month is off to a good start
Hurrah!
Read the land of darkness by Marco Polo. His description of these beasts is just as horrible. He refers to them as dim whitted. They were clearly a lowly sub-human people with no sense of civilized life.
@@karakhan2070👍
So many Viking wannabes and modern Pagans/Heathens wouldn't be able to stomach or survive living as a Viking.
No, getting a cool tattoo is not quite not the same thing
Lmfao right its fucking funny asf whenever I see these wannabes
They could promote more things like ancient greeks things who were a society which rounded around knowledge.
@@TheGabriel1351 right and theres so many other cool civilazation but no we romanticized these snot water face washers
Why would they want to?
I first heard about Ibn Fadlan's account in Michael Crichton's book "Eaters of the Dead." Of course that was a work of fiction- it's nice to hear the real thing.
Read Ibn Fadlan's 'Land of darkness'. This is where 'Eaters of the dead' comes from.
Ibn Fadlan also have the accounts of "Beowulf's legend" himself.
this channel is a great finding for me who just loves to hear pieces of history. thank you !
Nice! Welcome
Yes this channel provides me with all kinds of ammo... I mean information. Outstanding job.
@@karakhan2070 ah yes ammo, must have been made from your compost out of your buns.
@@koolcid9710 Naw, it was made from the splattered brain particles of your closest loved one.
@@karakhan2070 you must have thought that was "savage" or "brutal" but it still only proves my point :)
Was waiting for this, I asked and you delivered with a story teller's charisma.
The Viking rus came from Roslagen in Sweden and then went east all the way to Constantinople. They served as the Varangian Guard for the emperor! I have heard Ibn Fadlans description before but only in part so to hear this detailed version was very interesting! Great video!! :)
Thanks!
@@VoicesofthePast Your idea of uploading these translated texts of the past was amazing, thank You, sir! Just sad that i did not found those earlier
Also - Roslagen means ~ Rus "team". Meaning a "ship team" (skeppslag) - the locals who were able to go viking.
In Svitjod (pretty much the Roslagen area north of Stockholm, where the Swedes came from) there are lots of place names like that.
People who watches things like this might get confused and think, "Swedes? Oh, those from Sweden" and forget that this is hundreds of years before there was a Sweden. Like, the Goths, Geats and other tribes/peoples living in what's now Sweden back then would be pissed knowing they would be called Swedes thousands of years later.
@@fheedpexx9267 How right you are! Sweden was not yet a unified kingdom I know. I should have said "what would later become Sweden" :)
Modern day Roslagen/Uppland (North of Stockholm) is also has the most Rune Stones of any area.
I feel like the History channel Vikings used this source in making of the funeral scene in season 1. Very interesting video!
I really love this kind of videos. Such a great inside look into it. Thank you!
"Bread, meat, onions, milk and alcohol" - I'm having trouble recalling the name of this cocktail.
It's called heart disease.
@@Dee-nonamnamrson8718 Thank you.
@Edward Garcia Thank you.
Don't forget corpse
Viking Survival Stew, good shit on the north sea.
Thanks very much to James E Montgomery for the use of his translation.
www.amazon.com/Mission-Volga-Library-Arabic-Literature/dp/1479899895
When most cultures met, they called each other barbarians. For most it wasn't really true, but these guys were the embodiment of the term! :O
barbarian is originally a greek word for, one who does not speak greek :-)
Ibn fadlan came from Abbasid caliphate it was the golden age of Islam Muslims were more advanced, educated than anyone in world .
@@minecraftfan7648 true
@@minecraftfan7648 don't lie if you doesn't know about while world at that time.
@@AJAYSINGH-ns1vv Of course it has to be a Singh and his verbal diarrhea. ''Thank you saaaar, full sapport saaar''.
Where's the part where they fight the eaters of the dead? :)
so true...
They ARE the eaters of the dead'.
@Michael Kevin Millet
Watch the 13 th warrior.
You'll thank me after the potter garbage.
😎
It is in the earth. Seek it in the earth...
@@stanleystriker7065 bruh too real lmao
So Russian women endlessly demanded jewelry and gifts from supplicant husbands, demanding greater and greater symbols of status.
So nothing has changed.
Yes.
The "Rus" is what Vikings premarely from Sweden where called
They were not Russian but Norwegian, Swedish, Ice Landic...... they called them Rus or Dane
@@beverlybalius9303 they are also here in Ireland, I see them every time I talk to them, you can see them by the eyes, Saoirse Ronan is one example of a norman.
🤣
My goodness, your channel is my newest favorite! Great job with these videos, its exactly the sort of thing I enjoy most, it seems to be the most credible way of feeling what someone from history felt! Awesome job!😊
Hurrah! Welcome!
Hey @Voices of the Past.
Glad you gave this account, but Ibn Fadlan did say more about the Rus, he gave a rather good explanation on the "nation" of Rus vis-a-vis the nation of slavs that were living with them as their subordinates for example. He also gave great accounts of the Rus and the slavs, their customs and their looks.
Btw, can you give an account of south slavs and serbs by the arabs?
I don't know if it was Ibn Fadlan, it could very well have been Ibn Battuta or Ibn Yaqub. But they had some weird shit to say, to say the least.
Yeah😂.
We did not like the Slavs in the past for some reason.
While we really liked the Greeks.
@@kareemtheeb1478 "tall as date palms and beautiful, but do not get fooled. These are savage like the fiercest of lions " or something like that. No idea why lol.
Can't be Ibn Battuta, he never traveled to a none Islamic country, he kinda... Feared none Muslims, the only none Muslims he encountered were Chinese Buddhists, while we was traveling to meet Chinese Muslims, he liked their culture overall, but kept spamming about their cuisine.
That's what I understood from his book.
It is the old way, you will not see this again.
It looks like all 13 of the warriors saw my comment.
Thank god for that!
A brief look back in history. And this is just a short blink back compared to 100 000 years of history
What??? 96,000 years of prehistory
What a strange, harsh, and brutal people.
@Axios .king hehe apparently
We are still like that!!
Where do you live, to show you ,our ways!!,..jjejje!!
@@Craigx71 Why the fuck would you want to live in a society that vikings would tolerate. You hate civilization or what?
@@vikingsven5756 no you are not
@@Maynard0504 are you nacked!!I will show you,what pleasure is all abouth!!!jajaja...
Thank you for making this video.
Very fascinating and interesting.
Thanks!
You know, with the Northman releasing, God of war, marvel movies with Thor, the show Vikings, The Mythical Norse stuff almost feels played out. But this makes it all feel real again. That quote 16:29 is pretty incredible
I've found my self listening to the voices of the past alot..you only after know abit about the subject to imagine the activities been listed.amazing our history is and the different cultures we have.whats the norm for one civ is idotic to the other lol...very interesting
may Allah have mercy on Ahmad ibn fadlan
Well, they sound like very charming people.
Putting sick people in essantially quarantene makes sense
bruh too real, what a prediction
@@danielmartins4684 except that now everyone, sick or not, is in quarantine 🤭
Hello fellow time traveler
Thank you for clarifying the death ritual of the female slave.
I had previously watched a show on television, that had a viking funeral. I had missed part of the show but the part that I saw had a woman being lifted up and down. As she was lifted she said that she saw her mother and father and sisters and brothers, etc; in Valhalla. Then they showed the boat, burning.
I have been curious about this for a long time, wondering if it were factual in any way or just a fictitious embellishment.
It was fictitious embellishment. They were not as tall as palm trees, they were not completely covered in ink, these are verifiable facts. So we can conclude that all else this arab muslim said is just as false or at best a huge exaggeration.
Lol ,denial state .
The sacrifice is probably accurate other than the sexual part there is account of it
@@user-ye6ty9ie8g th-cam.com/video/uu2gN8n15_A/w-d-xo.html here is a link to a video by Professor Niel Price using this account to narrate archeological findings he had studied. From his lecture it is pretty obvious that the archeological evidences actually back up this account. What is yoir evidence of this being purposely made false and what's the profit of it for the Ibn dude anyway since he just stumbled upon them on his way somewhere else. This is serious, you can't just proclaim some accounts as false whilst being ignorant. For this case I'll take a professor and an archeologist words over a random hurt feelings on internet.
@@user-ye6ty9ie8g Lol, just watch this.
th-cam.com/video/uu2gN8n15_A/w-d-xo.html
Prof. Niel really gave very detailed archeological finds that very much support this Ahmad dude Accounts.
Besides, from this account alone it's very clearly that this is his first time seeing a northmen. That only meant he found the vikings during his stay in the Bulghar kingdom, under the protection of king Almish nonetheless. Why would he making up when it's never a beneficial for him?
Oh the smells
jajaja,...smells like seafood!!
@array s maybe soup instead? th-cam.com/video/sJhzitNza6s/w-d-xo.html
Great descriptions , he wrote like he time travel back to enlight us
Probably the most unusual ceremonies I've ever heard of.🤔👍
About the parts about the basin I've read that Fadlan was not saying they were using the same water to wash, only that they were using the same basin without performing the specific cleansing rituals Fadlan was used to.
Love these videos, great stuff ;)
Thanks pal!
This is amazing! A voice; connecting us to the past.
Yep!
A sensationalist voice who probably entertained the court of his homeland very well with this horror show.
Put me off eating my dinner!
By the way Kudos on the channel it's excellent. You have a great voice and you narrate most excellently.
Thanks!
I like the way the Vikings make a lot of noise when they murder their defenseless girls to trick the others when it's their turn. They are so noble and free.
Wow.. your channel is amazing.. all of this every day history of the people from the past.. like I said amazing..... thank you.
Thanks!
@@VoicesofthePast The great thanks goes to you for all of your hard work and diligence..
Amazing👍👍👍Well done. Love it✌😎
Thanks pal! Glad you enjoyed it
My new favourite channel!
This is the real life person who is the inspiration for The 13th Warrior with Antonio Banderas, and the Michael Crighton book Eaters of The Dead!
Incredible first hand account.....thanks
Thanks for watching 😁
The movie 13th warrior with actor Antonio Bandaras shows the true story of Ibn Fadlan and the Rus Vikings
I quite like the narration in this and Kelly's efforts to capture the tone Fadlan probably would've had when he wrote down his account.
When I specified all this to my lawyer he just point blank refused to enter it into my Will and Testament.
Comimg back to this, great that you made a recording of this.
If these are indeed people of a Germanic tradition, could it be that the 'angel of death' is what we would call a Walkyrie? Or is the Walkyrie too much of a mythical person to be represented by a real person? I wonder. Maybe she's simply a priestess, who knows...
Lo there do I see my father...
The Brocialist lo I see a line of my people back to the beginning
Thank you for the 13th Warrior reference "met you match have you? met your match"
You know that Chrichton based "eaters of the dead" on this right?
WHERE DID YOU LEARN OUR LANGUAGE!!!???
8:09 came here from Max Millers video. And I must say, his video doesnt talk about how awful it was to be a viking slave. So i thought, why would one of them agree to be sacrified? But now it makes sense. To end their suffering. Thats why theres always one who agrees. Because the master probably has a "favorite" that he abuses more that the rest.
If he lived today he'd probably film his reaction to that "Midsommar" movie
Great vid. History is dope
Yes it is
the past is far more horrific than we think
So this is where the idea of gel came from! Bravo Vikings Bravo 👏👏👏😆😆
As we can see real Vikings were not the same like modern vikings in Netflix serials ..... xD
There is a huge fascination and revival of paganism in Russia recently. Perhaps more with the peoples romantic idealization of how the Rus pagans were. If they actually study the historical sources on how these people lived, I don't think they would be so positively inclined anymore.
There are some weird people out there
@@lostplanet1931how are they weird?.
I have to say, their way of dealing with the sick is actually pretty sensible for a culture with no medical knowledge or practice.
I know it wasn’t intentional, but he described some gruesome acts so politely that most ignored their gravity
Read this at school back in 9th grade. Loved it
This graphic and shocking text was part of your high school curriculum, or you just sought it out and read it for fun at that age?
can you tell me what is the outro music starting from 17:08 ? I can't seem to find it and I really like it.
edit: please tell me the melody stuck in my head please 🥺🥺
I want to know too!
Tell us!
yeah what is the first-melody outro, you got it stuck on me too lmao
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"Ummm, no thanks., I'll remain dirty!" :) Excellent reading and translation anyhow. I am always fascinated to hear how people lived so long ago.
The wash basin would increase the strength of your immune system 10 fold :P
The abundance of riches, animals and even humans sacrificed or given to the gods of the time is unimaginably enormous. Funny to think how their offerings were essentially pointless and mearly a waste. Such a shame for those that fell victim to this practice. I'm sure they unknowingly slayed future inventors, leaders and scholats that, had the lived, would have changed the world.
Probably not lets be honest but it was pretty bad anyways
Very good is there any more viking eyewittness acounts like this.
Its fantastic!
vikings didnt care to record their hostory or their way of life, if it wasnt for these few ppl who recorded what they saw, we would have no idea about how the viking existed, or we would prob have forgoten them ike we did with many many other civilizations, so thx ibn fadhlan
I only know of idrissi and ibn fadlan , maybe they ain't enough but still, few unfiltered truthful words better than thousands pages of legends regarding the topic
Brutal history. Amazing.