My thoughts on both the Pentax HD DA 55-300 PLM and D FA 150-450 on the Pentax K-3 Mark III. Part 1
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Well, I asked and you wanted to see it. The Failed video of the D FA 150-450. I will be doing another video now that I found a workaround for the issue. I start off with the HD DA 55-300 PLM and later switch to the D FA 150-450 which ends up failing in AF and Aperture setting. You win some and you lose some I suppose.
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When I bought this D FA 150-450 lens I fell in love with it. Something amazing. I just wouldn't leave the woods or come back from the lakes. But some time ago started to happen just like on your film. All in all, now the photos are not sharp, dull, very soft. I contacted Pentax UK service and they said they probably won't be able to fix it and they will have to send it back to Japan for repair. Sad. I thought it was the fault of the settings on the K1 or the camera is faulty. But when I bought the K3 m III and connected the D FA 150-450, nothing changed with the lens. So thank you very much for your video, because I can see that I am not the only one who has this problem.
i have this lens for a while (150-450) , and never had any issues . for a last 3 years i used with KP, before on K3 , K3ii . Now for a past month it's on my K3 III . Works like a charm . Tips ....... use preset buttons for a quick focusing , and make sure the limiter in right distance .
good luck , and my best .
For the first time with Pentax I get sharp shots when I expect to miss but this combo really is fast and accurate.
I had a problem with the lens when on K-1 and it was a cable inside one of the swithches that had come loose. I fixed it myself since the warranty had expired. Hope it gets fixed easily for you.
It is a really fast and accurate combo so it looks like something is wrong with your lens.
Ok Kobie great video.
I have heard great things about both lenses I found the 55-300 PLM a great lens especially for wildlife with in its limits. I would like to try out the Pentax 150-450 but I would have to buy it sight unseen as the local Pentax dealer has no copies of the lens in stock
Hopefully you get the 150-450 up and running Kobie. I'm really interested to see how fast that thing can focus with the K33 & what the image quality is like in comparison to the 55-300 PLM.
I use a mono pod, works just fine. The K-1 handles this monster lens quite well in "P" programmed mode. Do not use auto or "AF" with this lens.
Look forward to seeing more on the 150-450mm. It would be nice to have a lens that went up to, say, around 350mm or 400mm that was reasonably sharp. I have the 55-300mm and really like that, but find it a bit too soft at the longer reach. It’s quite nice for landscapes though and I so enjoy using it. Thanks for all the info.
I have had my D FA 150-450 since March 2020. I used it originally on a KP and now on the K-3 III without any problem. After watching the video, I set it up in Tv mode, AFc, full auto focus. Seems to work as expected. It shifts aperture from 4.5 to 5.6 around 290mm... Same results on the KP. Sorry, I don't shoot swallows...
Two issues with the 150-450. 1) Do not rapidly change the focal length of this lens. I had a gadget inside that that moved and would no long allow you compress the lens down and it is not an uncommon issue. 2) Be careful how you pick up the lens. Mine came apart, glass from the rest of the body. Just be careful. I still love the lens though. I have the original two versions of the 55-300 and recently picked up the third so I'm going to test all three and sell two of them.
That 150-450mm is some lens and it's got one heck of a recoil as well, at 08:44 .
Lol good eye!
Having Sigma 50-500 I'd love to see the new Sig 60-600 for Kmount. But that would never happen :( It is the best lens for airshows and various WWII reenactments where distances changes quckly and you either need two cameras with two lenses or this mammoth thing .) 150-400, 150-500 and 150-600 lenses are somewhat limited on the "wide" end.. But still if Ricoh will create some 500+ zoom, I'll be interested.
DFA150-450 on K1 is like my Sig 100-300/4 on APS-C body.. resulting in similar coverage, but with constant F4 :)
Nice malfunction caught on camera! :D
I have sometimes such problems with my Tamron 70-200/2.8 on the K-1 and that seems to be due to the heavy weight of the lens disturbing the bayonet communication when holding the camera in certain positions. Taking the lens off and fitting again usually solves it.
Further, I like to remark that the 55-300 PLM (having a minimum focus distance of only 0.95 m) is perfect for the near distance e.g. for insects like butterflies and dragonflies, as well as other semi macro work. The 150-450 (having minimum 2 m focus distance) may be less suitable, though I have no experience with that lens.
Yeah, I agree that 55-300 PLM is not best at long range shooting. Planes far away - nope. Flowers close up - hell, yeah. I am now searching for something to replace 55-300 PLM for planes. I wonder if DA* 60-250 will be better then PLM or this FA.
It seems I'm not the only one that is sometimes stumped by lenses and/or cameras not functioning the way they should and not having a clue why.
Mechanic and electronic have quirks. My trusty K-5 will sometimes take two pictures in a row, even in single frame mode. I thought that with the new shutter button, and a brand new camera, I wouldn't have it with the K-3 III, but I already had it twice.
Man that 150-450mm zonking out was a bummer. I've had lenses glitch out like that when I switched lenses, usually you need to drop the battery and clear out the RAM chip - bad RAM, or memory/data stuck in the RAM that causes a glitch. Pull the battery and let the electricity dissipate after 10 minutes and try it again. Hopefully the 150-450 wasn't suffering from something major, after you poured out all that praise on it.
Pity about the problem, wierd. I have been shooting a couple of thousands on two different K3lll bodies whithout a problem and also last week on K1-ll. Two Times the k3lll stopped drivning the lens at all, did not drive it with tigger or back button but switching off the camera made it come back. Probably soft ware bug. As you said, the lenses are in two different Leagues, had two copies of 55-300plm but will never buy one again, weight does not matter. Like comparing F1 and Gocart. 70-200 f2.8 is the best of all the zooms and you reach 300mm on a crop sensor and almost 400 if you use crop mode on k3lll.
Can you do a video on your OVF techniques, in regards to:
a) reducing eye strain on your non-focusing eye
b) seeing the image in the OVF more clearly during MF
I see you keep both eyes open while shooting and I have never seen anyone else do that. I think that is a good idea.
I would NEVER have thought of doing a video like that but I think it would be interesting and helpful to at least some. Great suggestion!
Read PCmags review on K3 III and you will understand DA300 APS-C against 150-450mm FF. I hit 7 out of 10 on bicykle race with K1-ll and 150-450mm but with DA 300 I missed 7 out of 10 with K1-ll in crop mode.
I had the same issue with a 16-85 mm whi h was faulty.
Mate... if anything you got a great workout with that beast. Those biceps were stressed. Lol... Did you find out what the issue was with the 150-450?
Seems to be something within the lens barrel that's losing communication only all the way at the end of the zoom barrel.
@@KobieMC Wow... Is it yours? Sounds like one for the repair shop man. 😕
No, it's not mine. It's on loan
It should have been an interesting video, if the lens have been working. I'm looking forward the part 2. For price and weight reasons, I would like to buy the 55-300 PLM, but the comments are quite contradictory, from very sharp to not sharp enough.
It does seem to be inconsistent quality control. I've seen elsewhere that some people find it soft while others it's razor sharp. As I mentioned though, small far away subjects don't render well. Subjects that cover at least 1/4 of the frame are sharp (at least on my copy of the 55-300 PLM).
@@KobieMC People have also subjective sharpness scale. Most lenses are sharp compared to the kit lens or other entry zoom lenses.
I just hope that the 55-300 PLM is sharper than my old film era Sigma 70-300 (at 300, it was less sharp than my Takumar 135mm cropped!)
Subjective as sharpness is, I'll pass on my experience and hope it's of use. For me the 55-300plm, is sharper than the previous 55-300 (non plm), and the 50-200mm by some margin, with only a slight drop off on sharpness and contrast beyond 270mm (still better than both those at the longest). It's a bit like comparing a kit lens to a limited lens in terms of drop off at that end of the range, but I don't say that to put you off. Still perfectly serviceable. The speed of the focusing is icing on the cake (k70). Since I got mine, it's barely left my camera. If you really need that extra resolution at 300mm it more, the DA*300 may be a better bet, or the 150-450.
@@daellis130 Thanks for the info. The 300 and the 150-450 may indeed have better resolution, but if I let them in the closet because they are too heavy, the 55-300 would be a better choice for me. Just don't want to get a lens that I will not use because of bad IQ, but that don't seem the case. And PLM + K-3 III must focus fast (faster than my manual focus 135).
Now, I just need to wait a few more days for Ricoh to validate my points from K-3 III. The Ricoh buying experience in Europe is bad (2 days to be debited of the full amount, 1 month to have confirmation of order, 2 months to get the camera, 3 months to get the invoice...)
@@pbyfr I had the same dilemma before getting mine. I wanted longer reach and hi IQ, but didn't want the weight. In the end, I'm happy. I also have the manual takumar 135mm f2.8. A lovely lens that I haven't actually used since I got the 55-300plm! It focuses fast on the k70, so it should fly on the k3 iii. Good luck.
The limiter wasn't on was it Kobie?
No, and that still wouldn't explain why at 450 mm it was F/4.5 instead of 5.6
If i compare the prices there is a HUGE difference (5times 400€ vs. 2000€) so there should be also HUGE difference in quality. Is the the 150-450 also FF usable?
i think the lenses are not really comparable. its more the question how is the comparison at equal focus length 150-300 mm.
The D FA 150-450 is a full frame lens. Any lens that's "FA" means "full frame".
@@KobieMC o.k. and there is no APS-C alternative? What is the Fullframe alternative to the HD DA 55-300 PLM?
@@tomsun3159 APS-C alternatives would be either the 55-300 PLM or the DA* 60-250. There is no Full frame alternative to the 55-300 PLM. Except for the 150-450. To figure out the field of view equivalent, take whichever lens and multiply (if you want to know the APS-C equivalent) by 1.5. Divide if you want to know the FF equivalent. So the 55-300 on a full frame camera would be the Field of view of about 35-200 if you wanted the same view on an APS-C camera. The same 55-300 is the field of view of about 80-450 on an APS-C camera.
@@KobieMC so we are doing here kind of apples to pears comparison (APS-C vs. FF on a extraordinary APS-C). Would it be more meaningful to test the FF lense on a APS-C vs. a FF body (K3-III vs K1-II) o.k. thats more the body test over a lens test. for a APS-C (except perhaps the K3-III i would say the lense is far beyond the appropriate lense price (taking K70, K-p into account), whereas the DA 55-300 PLM even for a K50 (with FW 1.10) is in an interesting price range.
High end lenses command high end prices.
By yourself??? Who's holding the vid camera?
Tripod with an auto tracking gimbal (DJI OM-4). I knew this comment was coming at some point lol.
@@KobieMC That's pretty cool.
Tried cleaning the contacts on the 150-450?
It was a corrupted lens firmware. Lens had to go back to PENTAX in Japan to get re-done.
@@KobieMC glad it got sorted. Just took delivery of mine yesterday. Out & about with it tomorrow on the K1 M2
what's the part 2 of this video called? I can't seem to find it.
I haven't gotten around to doing an official Part 2 but it's still planned. I have done this one: studio.th-cam.com/users/videos1xYemjcIik/edit and 2 others, one with the 55-300 PLM + HD 1.4x teleconverter and another with the 150-450 and HD 1.4x Teleconverter.
@@KobieMC Thanks. I guess what I was really looking for was a resolution to the focusing problems of the D FA 150-450 on the K3iii. Was that resolved and how? Seems like it was resolved in the 150-450 with HD 1.4x teleconverter video.
@@artoriaslee The 150-450 I had borrowed at that time had a freak firmware issue and had to be sent back to Pentax to get inspected and re-flashed. They ended up just rebuilding the whole lens as well as re-flashing the firmware. I never used it once the owner got it back though. I now have my own and haven't had any focusing issues.
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