Check out Parts 1 and 2 of the series: Who Makes the Best 60cc Pro Saw? Part 1: th-cam.com/video/kVVh786HDMg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=pUpdToc5RbbG53rb Who Makes the Best 60cc Pro Saw? Part 2: th-cam.com/video/r7RXTSF-SAg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Tyqyb4nqKyWlDrWW
Hard startin' Stihl. Don't ever let the gas run out when using it. Takes forever to start and when it does start, you have to nurse it to make sure the fuel line has full flow, or it will stall out on you. With that said, I still miss my 18 yearold MS390 that somebody stole 2 weeks ago along with two 36v Makitas.
The Makita 6100 has an easy start system which makes it easier to start than some 40 cc chainsaws. By pulling the cord slowly a second spring winds up and as the motor turns over the momentum is utilised by the spring and carries it on further.When I bought the Makita 6100 it was a third of the price of the MS 362. While the Makita can't quite match the modern professional MS 362 it's still a much better saw than the STIHL MS 391 and at the moment a lot cheaper.
i've been running 2 6100s for a couple years now. one with a 24"" bar and full wrap, the other 20" standard wrap. since they run husky small mount k095 bars, bars and chains are easy to come by. really like tsumura for bars and run jonserad/husky chain. did the muffler mods but have screens on all outlets to keep them "legal". the stratified engines run really well all the way to 13.8k rpm. low smoke and they run a long time on a tank. takes a weird little screwdriver to adjust the carbs. the only thing i'd change if i could, would be dogs on the side cover. i've heard the 5400 model side cover with dogs will fit on the 6100, but they are no longer available. wouldn't mind a 3rd for parts :-) have fun!
Yes, the 6100 seems to be a very solid saw, and it's unfortunate that Makita/Dolmar won't be making gas saws anymore. Don't understand why they weren't more popular. I was planning on selling mine, since I don't need so many saws, but I haven't been able to let go of it just yet. 🙂
Tengo una motosierra Makita 6100 , salió con falla del carburador, apenas gaste 4 cadenas,no logro conseguir el carburador ya que es un modelo bastante escaso.
Yeah, I didn't say the Mtronic carb wasn't a potential point of failure. In fact, I said I would prefer not to have it, as I would prefer not to have a primer bulb. Both features will require more maintenance over the alternative and neither add much value in my usage.
I'm a vintage chainsaw guy, but I enjoyed the overview of two modern saws. I'm also a Stihl guy, and own five of their saws. That said, I prefer saws that allow me to adjust the carb manually. I'm not quite sure what to think of the new Stihl saws and their M-Tronic system?
I hear ya. I would've preferred a manual carb as well, but got a really great deal on the Mtronic MS362, so thought I'd try it out. The jury is still out. Relative to my standard carb MS261, the MS362 starts a bit easier and the throttle response seems smoother. However, it's running too rich when it's cold. It may need some time to self-adjust, so I'll keep my eye on it before making any judgements.
I'm curious to see how things play out for you. I've watched a few videos on M-Tronic saws and all seem to say the same as you, the saw needs to idle for a specified period of time prior to putting it in the wood.
@@EightWheelsRollin I'm curious as well. They come with pre-programmed settings which may or may not be ideal for the given conditions out of the box (I'm at a higher elevation and in winter). I believe it takes about 1 minute of cutting for the controller to reprogram settings. So, I think the proper procedure is to just let the saw run so it can tune itself. Unknowingly, I was shutting the saw down between cuts, so I'm probably still on factory defaults. I need to play with it a bit to see if it tunes itself in. Will publish an update once I've had more time to work with it.
There is a method to the madness, so I've been told. Elevation and temperature aren't making things any easier for you. Good luck, I'll be looking for your update.
You keep talking about the primer bulb being a place for potential failure point, yet the decompression button has just as much of a chance to fail. The difference between the two is if the decompression button fails it can make the engine run lean if it has a leak, but the button can also fail by dropping parts of it into the engine destroying the engine. Where the primer bulb should by changed when you do your fuel lines, and if the bulb gets a crack you'll know and can fix it before it damages anything.
Good vid and I agree with your choice and your comparison. Especially the advantage Stihl has in support. Having said that (and take this with a grain of salt because my experience with Makita is with their 5000 and 7900 not the 6100 which I know nothing about) for a guy that doesn’t mind a little bit of tinkering, muffler mod and cutting slots in the carb adjustment screws) the Makita is the better buy at normal retail and once the correct modifications are completed will likely make broader power and with the added ability to run it richer when milling because of the adjustable carb makes it an extremely worthy adversary that many will like more. Also most will eventually get rid of the compression release as it will eventually fail. But at the same price point, yeah it’s a no brainer. But I’d keep both. They aren’t going to get cheaper. 👍🏼
All good points, and I haven't yet sold the 6100. As you say, they're not getting cheaper; Makita prices have jumped considerably since I shot these videos as they run out of stock. So, I'm holding onto it for now.
Well hopefully you keep it, gut the muffler if necessary, get the proper tool for carb adjustment (or just cut slots with a dremel) and let us know what you think of the power band! Although it’s a little to late now plus I have enough 60cc class saws but I’m still curious if I should have bought one. lol 👍🏼
Hey man, im at a very big dilema. My saw recently died and i am wondering if i should buy a Stihl MS291/391 or a Husqvarna 372XP. Im thinking of these 3, if you can recommend me some it will be nice.
It wouldn't want to make a recommendation without knowing your usage model, personal preferences, budget, sensitivity to weight vs. cutting speed, etc. However, the Husq 372XP is a larger professional saw with magnesium case, and the Stihl saws are farm & ranch models with plastic cases. The 372xp puts out quite a bit more power and likely more durable, but is also heavier than the 391 by about a pound.
Well, budget isnt a problem, i am receiving it as a gift. I have been using Stihl my whole life and i am curious if i should switch to a husky. My previous saw was a MS 180 and it did fine in some small limb cutting and bush removals, but i had to help my dad cut a few trees and half way it died. The main things a saw needs to do for me is cut limbs, bushes, rosehip trees, from time to time a large apple, cherry or oak.
If I were mainly cutting limbs and brush with only an occasional tree, I'd go with the lightest saw of those three (291). Durability likely won't be an issue, and a heavy 71cc saw is not what I would want for delimbing work.@@Vipex_134
I bought this one from Amazon in November. At that time, they had 12 with the 18" bar in stock and more of the 20" model in stock. About a month later, they had sold out of the 18" model, only had a few of the 20" model left, and had increased price by about $100. I believe production stopped in 2022 and they've just been selling leftover inventory. Now that inventory is almost depleted, prices have gone up.
Check out Parts 1 and 2 of the series:
Who Makes the Best 60cc Pro Saw? Part 1:
th-cam.com/video/kVVh786HDMg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=pUpdToc5RbbG53rb
Who Makes the Best 60cc Pro Saw? Part 2:
th-cam.com/video/r7RXTSF-SAg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Tyqyb4nqKyWlDrWW
Hard startin' Stihl. Don't ever let the gas run out when using it. Takes forever to start and when it does start, you have to nurse it to make sure the fuel line has full flow, or it will stall out on you. With that said, I still miss my 18 yearold MS390 that somebody stole 2 weeks ago along with two 36v Makitas.
The Makita 6100 has an easy start system which makes it easier to start than some 40 cc chainsaws. By pulling the cord slowly a second spring winds up and as the motor turns over the momentum is utilised by the spring and carries it on further.When I bought the Makita 6100 it was a third of the price of the MS 362. While the Makita can't quite match the modern professional MS 362 it's still a much better saw than the STIHL MS 391 and at the moment a lot cheaper.
i've been running 2 6100s for a couple years now. one with a 24"" bar and full wrap, the other 20" standard wrap. since they run husky small mount k095 bars, bars and chains are easy to come by. really like tsumura for bars and run jonserad/husky chain. did the muffler mods but have screens on all outlets to keep them "legal". the stratified engines run really well all the way to 13.8k rpm. low smoke and they run a long time on a tank. takes a weird little screwdriver to adjust the carbs. the only thing i'd change if i could, would be dogs on the side cover. i've heard the 5400 model side cover with dogs will fit on the 6100, but they are no longer available. wouldn't mind a 3rd for parts :-) have fun!
Yes, the 6100 seems to be a very solid saw, and it's unfortunate that Makita/Dolmar won't be making gas saws anymore. Don't understand why they weren't more popular. I was planning on selling mine, since I don't need so many saws, but I haven't been able to let go of it just yet. 🙂
Tengo una motosierra Makita 6100 , salió con falla del carburador, apenas gaste 4 cadenas,no logro conseguir el carburador ya que es un modelo bastante escaso.
“The fuel bulb is a failure point”. Goes on to describe a complex electronic carb system. 😂
Yeah, I didn't say the Mtronic carb wasn't a potential point of failure. In fact, I said I would prefer not to have it, as I would prefer not to have a primer bulb. Both features will require more maintenance over the alternative and neither add much value in my usage.
I'm a vintage chainsaw guy, but I enjoyed the overview of two modern saws. I'm also a Stihl guy, and own five of their saws. That said, I prefer saws that allow me to adjust the carb manually. I'm not quite sure what to think of the new Stihl saws and their M-Tronic system?
I hear ya. I would've preferred a manual carb as well, but got a really great deal on the Mtronic MS362, so thought I'd try it out.
The jury is still out. Relative to my standard carb MS261, the MS362 starts a bit easier and the throttle response seems smoother. However, it's running too rich when it's cold. It may need some time to self-adjust, so I'll keep my eye on it before making any judgements.
I'm curious to see how things play out for you. I've watched a few videos on M-Tronic saws and all seem to say the same as you, the saw needs to idle for a specified period of time prior to putting it in the wood.
@@EightWheelsRollin I'm curious as well. They come with pre-programmed settings which may or may not be ideal for the given conditions out of the box (I'm at a higher elevation and in winter).
I believe it takes about 1 minute of cutting for the controller to reprogram settings. So, I think the proper procedure is to just let the saw run so it can tune itself. Unknowingly, I was shutting the saw down between cuts, so I'm probably still on factory defaults. I need to play with it a bit to see if it tunes itself in. Will publish an update once I've had more time to work with it.
There is a method to the madness, so I've been told. Elevation and temperature aren't making things any easier for you. Good luck, I'll be looking for your update.
You keep talking about the primer bulb being a place for potential failure point, yet the decompression button has just as much of a chance to fail. The difference between the two is if the decompression button fails it can make the engine run lean if it has a leak, but the button can also fail by dropping parts of it into the engine destroying the engine. Where the primer bulb should by changed when you do your fuel lines, and if the bulb gets a crack you'll know and can fix it before it damages anything.
Good vid and I agree with your choice and your comparison. Especially the advantage Stihl has in support. Having said that (and take this with a grain of salt because my experience with Makita is with their 5000 and 7900 not the 6100 which I know nothing about) for a guy that doesn’t mind a little bit of tinkering, muffler mod and cutting slots in the carb adjustment screws) the Makita is the better buy at normal retail and once the correct modifications are completed will likely make broader power and with the added ability to run it richer when milling because of the adjustable carb makes it an extremely worthy adversary that many will like more. Also most will eventually get rid of the compression release as it will eventually fail. But at the same price point, yeah it’s a no brainer. But I’d keep both. They aren’t going to get cheaper. 👍🏼
Dang, sorry about that horrible run on sentence! lol
All good points, and I haven't yet sold the 6100. As you say, they're not getting cheaper; Makita prices have jumped considerably since I shot these videos as they run out of stock. So, I'm holding onto it for now.
Well hopefully you keep it, gut the muffler if necessary, get the proper tool for carb adjustment (or just cut slots with a dremel) and let us know what you think of the power band! Although it’s a little to late now plus I have enough 60cc class saws but I’m still curious if I should have bought one. lol 👍🏼
gutting these muffs is a terrible idea! dollies are better left alone@@dgoodman1484
Hey man, im at a very big dilema. My saw recently died and i am wondering if i should buy a Stihl MS291/391 or a Husqvarna 372XP. Im thinking of these 3, if you can recommend me some it will be nice.
It wouldn't want to make a recommendation without knowing your usage model, personal preferences, budget, sensitivity to weight vs. cutting speed, etc. However, the Husq 372XP is a larger professional saw with magnesium case, and the Stihl saws are farm & ranch models with plastic cases. The 372xp puts out quite a bit more power and likely more durable, but is also heavier than the 391 by about a pound.
Well, budget isnt a problem, i am receiving it as a gift. I have been using Stihl my whole life and i am curious if i should switch to a husky. My previous saw was a MS 180 and it did fine in some small limb cutting and bush removals, but i had to help my dad cut a few trees and half way it died. The main things a saw needs to do for me is cut limbs, bushes, rosehip trees, from time to time a large apple, cherry or oak.
If I were mainly cutting limbs and brush with only an occasional tree, I'd go with the lightest saw of those three (291). Durability likely won't be an issue, and a heavy 71cc saw is not what I would want for delimbing work.@@Vipex_134
I would keep both saws
Well, so far I have. :-)
Where did you find the makita 6100? I know they have been out of production for a while now.
I bought this one from Amazon in November. At that time, they had 12 with the 18" bar in stock and more of the 20" model in stock. About a month later, they had sold out of the 18" model, only had a few of the 20" model left, and had increased price by about $100.
I believe production stopped in 2022 and they've just been selling leftover inventory. Now that inventory is almost depleted, prices have gone up.
amazon has a few
A bit of a moot point there dude. Makita quit making any petrol powered tools a couple years ago.
I mentioned that Makita isn't making new gas chainsaws, but you can still buy them. So, I believe you are making the moot point there dude.
@@outdoorsinoregonI think you saying I'm making the moot point is a bit of a moot point bud
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Good to see you back on the channel, Adrian!
I think Makita is more durable and will beat Stihl in the long term.