Is it worth playing FFXIV in 2025? - Thoughts from a 10+ year player
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.พ. 2025
- With all the recent buzz about FFXIV dying or dropping in numbers, I wanted to give my perspective. As someone who has been playing FFXIV since January 2015, I've seen a lot, and I thought this would be a good opportunity to give my takes and dispel some click-bait.
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As a fellow fossil (been playing since Syrcus Tower came out) definitely a quiet period right now. It happens a lot. Remember during early Heavensward game felt like dying out. We're really missing some grindy casualish content now that people can do together.
Oh yeah I remember those days and that weird feeling.
For sure - I’m jaded by hardcore content but I do hope they give more casual content for the whole community to enjoy soon.
They could have made Dawntrail like an introduction Addon and "jump in point" for new players like ARR was, with a focus on changeing the foundation of the game, with seamless connected zones like in ARR, with a more grounded story, adventure and exploration, change the dungeon structure, give us some rpg elements and class progression, new companions, without a world ending crisis, without the scions... but no, they didnt even try to do this... There is so much that's needs improvement and the old formula needs to change. Also Square Enix needs to invest more into the dev team, i want to see these changes soon and not in 2030...
like instead of always doing 6 zones per addon, add only 4-5 zones, so we can get more side content for patches etc. OR add a post-addon MSQ zone that is a part of the world, something you can travel to, and not a lame NPC that just teleports you into the instance.
The quantity and timing of zone/dungeon/trial unlocks has gotten so predictable that it actively hurts my enjoyment of the MSQ.
After 10 years this needs a change...
As much as i love the scions, they overstayed their welcome, their character arcs are pretty much all finished, Endwalker was the perfect ending for them. (Some- or all of them shoud have died in EW, their story was finished and it would have been a great end... OR make them disappear for more than 2 expansions before letting them show up again) not enough happens with them in Dawntrail, all of them behave like cardboard cutouts, they are back just because they are fan favorites... "sigh"
A timeskip in the Story would be amazing, giving the scions and other characters a complete redesing and new lore, new goals, shift in conflics... something i thought they would do after the end of Endwalker but no...
FF14 mobile for example.
Seeing all these animation improvements, animations for slide casting, better lighting and quality of life options brings me to the question - what has CBU3 and Square been doing all those years with FF14? Where are those things in the OG? I know the engine is old, but adding some animations can't be that hard...
The formula is stale, and the devs stopped to innovate or try more risky things a long time ago.
I believe they mentioned thinking about the "jump in point" and decided not to. I know there was a lot of back and forth about that in the community too.
I'd love to also see more investment in the dev team, we need fresh blood at some point too to help keep things lively. A reduction in zones would be great - I'd rather less zones that are more impactful then a quick "hi - oh wait we gotta go, bye!"
As far as mobile, I wonder if it's because it's a completely different team working on it. I think it would be nice for them to diversify a little bit so that we can get some new ideas and not a same old routine. Thanks for your thoughts!!
Longterm player and hardcore raider here. Imo FFXIV is one of the best games to play, especially since we can play a couple expansions for free till we have to pay subs. There is so many things you can do as newer or casual player and i can only recommend everyone to atleast give it a try and play it till HW. The early stages of the game can be very boring and it took me a few tries aswell to finally stick to it in the past. There is so much to discover and a lot of group content to do, most people are friendly and always up for a chat. For longterm players the updates are lacking content after doing nearly everything already, so most of the times from my experience i login to help people with savage/ultimates/reclear FRU and mostly what keeps me going are my friends i made along the way.
Love to hear it! (and jealous that I haven't cleared FRU yet lol).
I totally agree that friends & community is what makes this game so special to me.
It's a lot of clickbait and doomsaying and it....idk its beating a dead horse. Like we saw this end of EW...WoW has gone through this. Idk...my server is very much alive lmfao. IDK who is saying this and taking it seriously
Agreed - there’s just a lot of this crap going around and I’m not here for it lol
im on lvl99 story right now (leveling viper to kick lizard ass in the trial) and loving the story so far. Its a bit cheesy compared to other expansions but still hella fun! Just sounds like a lot of burnout going around. NOTHING was gonna live up to an entire Saga in one expansion.
ok they lost 70% of the whole playerbase this is a mmo,the game is at its lowest point since early stormblood,the stagnancy of tthe game is quite apparent and no i dont believe you played since 10 years sorry or youd be more aware of things liar
@@madlinkers8595 well at least your name has “mad” in it- definitely fits 😂
70%? I’d love to see the numbers. Could you send me a link to the proof?
And I have no reason to lie but sure believe me if you want or don’t.
It’s just a game and I’m just a random person on the internet. Have a great day! 😊
@@Pyra_Sydannia They are lying through their teeth. If FF14 lost 70% of its playerbase, then that would mean that at least ONE of the servers have 0 players.
I am a 6+ year player, so not quite paleozoic but Im in the upper cretaceous of 14 (probl'y spelled that wrong, silly science names). From my perspective, it's obviously not dying, but the trend is not getting any better. The game is playing it safe while offering nothing new to me anymore. The raids, which I adore, just feel stagnant to me, I feel like any new savage raid is just a cavalcade of reused mechanics with a new coat of paint. People say that is normal for MMOs, I say why go with what is normal? This is the game that nuked its first version and made a brand new MMO within 2 years and saved a catastrophic failure and turned it into great success, but now it wants to be...normal?
The Dev Team is spineless and uncommunicative, they rigidly stick to the same formula and doll out slop, and we have to wait 4 months for the slop as well, whilist making jobs less and less stressful. As a veteran of this game, I personally feel insulted. I seriously have to wait 6 months each time to do the new coat of paint protean/ pair/light party stack, spread, stack debuff spread debuff and defamation debuff have? Get a promising normal mode only for the devs to fill the savages with mind numbing bullshit just to pad the fight to a "regular FF" fight length?
"Well go play something you big meanie, I still love the game!" - Welp, Im glad to let you know I mostly have, once I clear FRU, I am probl'y just gonna quit altogether, if not just wait for 7.55 and binge the normal mode content in like 5h (because that's the standard we've accepted for non high end stuff).
Unless this game picks its guts off the floor and stop being spineless cowards playing it safe I am done. You're not wrong for still enjoying it, but Im not sugarcoating my opinion anymore.
I don't blame you for airing your opinion! I find it totally valid. I think a lot of people are frustrated by the stagnation of the game.
I air on the side of optimism, but not blindly. I want this to continue to be my favorite game for another 10 years, and it just very well may be - but I do agree that the dev team is having a bit of issues that need to be resolved soon in order to keep people around and happy.
only on lvl99 story rn but only gripe so far is i wish more of the story was Voice acted. Burnout is natural yall. Take breaks, try other games, read a book, knit a blanket, idk
Agreed! I love having VC'd scenes because it feels more immersive and wish that we got more of that in DT.
Also you said it much better than I did hahaha
What is there to burnout from? I am baffled by this fking comment every time I hear it from people. What do you burn out from? Expert roullete? It's not burn out, it's stagnation and boredom. How many times can you shoo people to "play other games" before "return to FF14" is off the menu?
I don't want to "play other games" I want the game that captured my heart in Stormblood and Shadowbringers to stop looking like a mundane salary man and start being a rockstar again.
I have to agree with the whole "a chance to try new concepts" statement. People were saying before even EW that the game wasn't innovating much and was stagnating in content because it rarely if ever changes but now they've done a full 180 and now complain when they tried new things near the end of EW and now DT.
People need to realise that they can't expect the game to become fresh again if they don't allow the devs to experiment and try new avenues for content.
Absolutely agreed! While I don't agree with every decision they've made, I'm glad that they're trying something with the hope that they are listening to feedback for future improvement.
I might also be jaded since I'm a business person in my real life and I know the growing pains for a creative company.
Ive been playing world of warcraft for 18 years and every now and again i get really tempted to try out FF14, ill be honest, its the visual style of the game and how visually busy boss fights look that put me off, but every wow player i know that has tried it out has had a blast in that game. And still play it to this day.
Every MMO goes through ups and downs on active players and i think something that is contributing to FF14s small dip is the fact that World of Warcraft over the last year or so has been getting content updates much more frequently than normal, so the WoW players that also enjoy FF14 are probably not finding the time to jump back into Eorzea, but they will be back!
Absolutely they'll be back! It's great to hear your perspective as a WoW player. As far as the raids, I encourage you to try them out if you can! I've been raiding for years and its so much fun for me. I tried raiding in GW2 but it was just so boring in comparison.
If you're new yes, if you're a veteran you've probably been unsubbed for most of these last 3 years than actually playing the game.
Depends on the person for sure.
Some folks have nothing left to do while other vets (like myself) always find things to do.
Oh hii, I just found your channel! ^.^ It's nice to hear the perspective of a veteran player. I started in 2022 and have only recently finished the msq of endwalker. XD There was and still is so much to explore, the cities are packed, my fc is active and there are always people to talk to, it doesn't feel like a "dead" game to me at all. But I understand that as a new player of course there is way more to still do so I can only compare this to my WoW experience which I've been playing for 15+ years. Honestly I really dislike the online negativity, most of it is indeed just clickbait because negativity attracts more attention (like look at asmongold, lol). There are a bunch of players like me who just enjoy the game in silence, without posting on social media. That being said, as a casual player even I felt WoW going downhill bigtime, especially after shadowlands. My friendlist that was usually full of active players who loved the game suddenly became empty. I had nobody to play with anymore and didn't like the direction WoW was going in, so like many others I quit and tried FFXIV instead. WoW did feel dead af,, but look at what happened now, they improved and recovered, now people are saying to leave FFXIV for WoW?! All this to say, it's normal for this to happen. People get tired of playing the same game for years. I'm not worried about it at all. Though of course disliking the direction of the game, the msq, etc, all of that is very valid and to those who feel this way I'd recommend to take a break and come back when there's new content or you feel ready and refreshed. :)
Hi! Welcome to the channel and thanks for the comment :3
I couldn't agree more! I have never played WoW but I can imagine that after playing a game for many years, a lot of folks get burnt out. I think burnout is completely normal and leaving a game for a distaste in the new content is also normal.
Sub expired 2 weeks ago and dont miss it. Which is sad. I want to miss it but there is nothing I want to go back to do.
That might be the best sign to take a break honestly. Maybe try again after an extended break from the game - everyone needs their space from time to time.
The world of RP works wonders for burnout or boredom. They do a lot of fun stuff, setting aside the erp crap lol
I’m in agreement with your theory. HELL! The expac launch was delayed because Yoshi P wanted people to play Elden Ring’s DLC XD
YOU HAD 1 WEEK!! lol
I really hope that one day somewhat soon they will make Housing available to everyone and without a demolition timer. Just to see how it affects player numbers when no one has to resubscribe for that
Yeah I understand why they do it, but at the same time it's a broken system.
I've recently returned to FFXIV after an 8-year hiatus. Just finished Stormblood, now in the early parts of Shadowbringer. What I'm noticing is that the questing areas of these expansions are practically empty of other players. No one to do FATEs with, etc. Every now and then I might see someone else but it's very very rare. Just as I start to think maybe the game is dead, then I warp back to Limsa and see where everyone is! I think what SE has failed to do (at least so far as what I have seen in my current progression) is give players reason to return to older zones. In WoW, no matter which zone you're in there is almost always going to be multiple people also in that area working on something, because there is so much to work on. Maybe this is something SE has resolved in future zones, I dunno. You might also ask "OK so why don't you just go play WoW?" Well, as much as I do genuinely love WoW, I am very upset with Blizzard right now and refuse to give them any more money for at least the next two years, maybe longer. So, SE gets my business instead.
OMG I feel you completely! I've complained for years that we need reasons as active players to go back into old zones. I'd love to help others but I have no reason to go back unless someone in my FC needs help and I think there should be a better system to returning back to those zones and being active in areas that were once booming.
I'm glad you stumbled across folks - unfortunately, people in future expansions from where you are at tend to stick around those areas, even after the core piece of content is done. I am definitely guilty of that.
If you haven't already, I'd say join an FC! Community is the best way to connect imo!
@@Pyra_Sydannia I disagree, this idea that this design is very important to players seems to just be audio noise tbh, if open world was so important GW2 would be the most popular mmo in the world but it isn't. No ones flocking to that game, and that game is all open world. I play bdo I don't ever go why doesn't SE make us grind mobs in circles for hours to get gil/drops. heck BDO has a better open world than GW2 and its not the most popular mmo in the world where are all these open world enjoyers they always seem to number in the millions when I read comments.
It's fair to disagree- I just miss going back to these old zones personally. I don't think I'd want to have it be constant open world, but I wish we had some more reason to go back. Even silly things like seasonal events and stuff.
The game isn’t dead and the servers are alive and well, it’s the fcs we were all in that are dead and when the ppl you know and talk to stop playing it feels abandoned and empty to that specific person. Visiting any world servers is laggy because every server is so packed
Tis the lifecycle of FC’s sadly! I’ve been a part of many and it feels the same year after year. Some people leave because they don’t care for the game, some get married and have kids and don’t want to commit to it anymore, etc.
Even with the decline in active players I’m still shocked how congested servers are!
@ right! So a big part of keeping the game feeling alive for people is the ability to make new friends and talk to people outside of your comfort zone because I know a lot of people that used to play with us that was even scared to initiate a dialogue between anyone in game they didn’t already know and it’s sad because once their friends go on break or quit the game it instantly feels like a dead game to those shy people.
@@CyberPsychoJD Absolutely! That's a big reason I started streaming / content creation. I love this game for its community and being able to connect with people is important for my experience in this game.
I felt Endwalker was the end of the game as far as the main story goes. I did get Dawntrail and I played a little of it. The moment I realized what it was about I had to be honest with myself. It doesn't do it for me. Back to ESO I guess.
@@PhillipMorrison276 nothing wrong with that. A lot of folks felt the same sentiment. The game moving forward will be different now that we don’t have 10 years of major plot points facilitating the story.
The game is still fun for me. I like the graphics, they are clean. The only thing I noticed aside from cheating in pvp is that on the JP server the Frontlines mode never pops. It is completely dead. I only came back a month ago, due to the whole mog store blunder. I never was able to play DT from the start even though I bought early access. At that time Frontlines was busy. I am not sure what happened. I am not able to find any info as too why it never pops anymore either.
Yeah PvP in this game isn't as big as I'd like it to be honestly. I think a lot of other games just do it better.
I'm still playing, though I took a bitty break for some GW2 a while ago (end of 7.0 -ish). I'm not *fully* back, but I at least try to log in each day lately.
That’s completely fair! I actually did the same thing for GW2 back in Stormblood.
The problem is, dawntrail was not just bad as a story, it was also lacking proper development. So few cutscenes are voiceacted, they really put in minimum effort, and not talking about the obvious flaws the game had since 6.1 doesn’t help it. Of course the game doesn’t die tomorrow, but especially mmos live from reputation.
Oh believe me I have flaws with DT and parts of the game and I know they exist.
I just personally don’t think it’s an indicator of the game quality being permanently lost. We’ll just have to see how they follow up in the next year or so.
Sure, it had some issues.
But the game is fine.
If there are doomers saying "it's dying" on one side, you are the complete opposite, white knight and cope no matter what. Perfect example is you saying that the team was taking risks, however the biggest issue with FFXIV is that the formula is so formulaic that there is no risk. The story revolves around dungeons at levels 91/93/95/97/99/100 and trials at 93/99/100. Characters must appear at specific times to allow for trusts. Savage tiers launch on X.05, X.2, and X.4 always with the same number of bosses. All dungeons have the exact same layout of move down a corridor and fight two to three groups of mobs, move down another corridor and fight mobs, fight a boss, and then repeat.
Job design has been simplified down so that all friction has been removed and the DPS sequence is the exact same every encounter with NO variance. CC/interrupts are almost completely unused because most mobs hit like wet noodles, or just cast circle, cone, or straight line AOEs that are easy to avoid. Healers can heal entire encounters with oGCD spells. Tanks have so many defensive abilities that they never have to worry about anything.
People have far more issues than the story being an overly verbose drag written by a sad millennial with no friends.
It hurts to say all this, but SE NEEDS the criticism. These overly positive, everything is great, we are just in a lull videos DO NOT help and one of the primary reason we are where we are. I say this as an original 1.0 player and someone who has held a sub without interrupt since 2.0 launched, however I finally canceled my sub 3 weeks ago. I've been in the same FC for 8 years and we've always maintained 60+ members online even during lulls, but when I logged out the last time 3 weeks ago there were 10 online at peak hours. Our GM, and my best friend, was logging in only to do some maintenance stuff for the FC. :(
There are issues and they need to be discussed and taken seriously.
Hey Bryan! Thanks for your thoughts.
Yes there are plenty of issues and criticism should be given, however, that's not the point of this video. The point of this video is to combat the blatant BS that's been spread about the game in utter decline.
I may get into a longer format critique of the game as I have also seen issues too, but that's not an approach or a piece that I have fully coordinated yet.
As far as these videos not helping, you're right to your opinion. I believe that they may help those who are not used to the cycles of this game and those who might have only heard the fear-mongering "this game is dead-TURN BACK NOW" critiques as those videos are also not helpful.
I feel you. The formula is stale, the game shows its age, and the devs stopped to innovate or try more risky things a long time ago.
They have essentially released the same re-skinned game design for the better part of 8 years now.
like instead of always doing 6 zones per addon, add only 4-5 zones, so we can get more side content for patches etc. OR add a complete MSQ zone with the patches.
Dungeons have been streamlined so much, it feels like the devs don't know how to make anything different anymore... Sure, they made the dungeons harder with DT, but thats not enough, they need to change more...
I just hope Yoshi P and the dev team take the criticism to heart. There is so much that's needs improvement and the old formula needs to change. Also Square Enix needs to invest more into the dev team.
The game look fun, but the graphic is so dated. When you play games from 2023-2024 i just can't go back to this graphic.
To each their own! They had a major graphics update in June and I still love that style imo
im confused what I should buy. I see the base game and downtrail as separate items on steam. Should I get downtrail , as a new player?
Heyy! Have you tried the free version of the game? If not I would start there and make sure it's something you will love!
This is the best MMO I've ever played easily beats both World of Warcraft & Guild Wars 2 by a million miles if you're a new player like myself just take your time with it and enjoy the ride it only gets better I think players really need to appreciate a MMO game that does this like no other I can't recommend this game enough after searching and searching for the perfect MMO I'm telling you Final Fantasy is it!
I'm so happy that you're loving it!!! It's truly a great game, even despite its flaws
Talk to me in 3 years.
Queues are hopping on Crystal seven days a week and Aether's PF is packed. The drop in player count is like the difference between playing DRG and VPR in savage content - measurable, but negligible, and predictable too. 7.2 is coming. 7.3 promises a new Limited Job. The schedule hasn't changed and these "downtime periods" are baked into the business model as well as the gameplay cycle - not just for you to take a break, but for Square to fallow the land on the money farm.
I like that comparison of DRG and VPR!!! You’re totally right.
I’m definitely jaded on the business side of things since I’ve been in business for years now lol
Excellent cope.
can i dedicate my play with crafting and sell my crafts or is the auction house flooded?
There's opportunity to make good money with crafting and gathering in the game still!
...no, no it's not. Way too many doomposters.
Exactly
@@anteprs7908 "With the first true casual content being beastmaster"
You lost me. Also I know you. You've been on other TH-cam videos telling people what is casual and what is not. Please, kindly, shut up.
FFXIV is dead, says everyone every expansion. It's not as bad as people make it out to be. The content of DT is great. Yeah, casuals are complaining they don't have content, and thats a lie, I know they all don't have every class leveled to 100, completed every relic weapon, completed every deep dungeon, and expansion area, ect. There's plenty to do. You just want to complain that there's nothing new for you to do. Quit complaining, go back and do older content you never did, and if that doesn't work for you, take a break until there is something you want to do.
There is over 1000+ hours of side content alone, there is definitely something to do
^this!
Except DT is the first expansion that had fewer players than last, It's the first expansion to lose so many players in the x.0 patch. And I think that the bad story has put a spotlight on flaws that people who don't care too much about story has pointed out for years. DT also has the slowest patch cadence that got slower and slower since SHB. FFXIV's model of having barebones content on its release and slowly add things over 2 years makes the launch very dull and incentivises you to not play until the last patch.
The game has flaws. It's ok to point it out. And shame on the youtuber for exaggerating the rage over the state of the game just so they can then turn around and say that people complaining are exaggerating. Such a scummy tactic to downplay opposition.
@MrCarlWax It happens with all mmos. It's happening with wow at the moment since mythic+ participation is at an all-time low. It's happening with runescape at the moment because they've lost a large playerbase. It happened with bdo, ashes of creation, and lost arc. For some reason, mmo players love to complain and say their game is dying. Anyone who's played mmos for a long time knows the mmo isn't dying.
@anteprs7908 Okay, I don't want to pass up this opportunity since I've never been able to find anyone who thinks the dungeons in DT are hard. Can you explain how they're stressful, I'm not trying to be mean or give you a hard time, I genuinely want to know why people think they're hard. I personally don't find them any harder than ew dungeons aside from 1, which is the carnival expert dungeon, that I can understand people thinking the first boss is hard.
it's not dying... but it's not growing. It's just existing now. DT was kind of a low point but all mmos go thru low points. I'm currently playing other games and I will return when they announce the next expansion and I can catch up on all the filler content. plus we got POE2 to jam out on and Monster Hunter coming out in Feb.... it's a good year for games.
That’s totally valid - sometimes it’s nice to catch up on other games too, especially when there are so many good ones out there!!!
I've been playing FFXIV since Legacy beta. I agree 100%. I didn't main FFXIV until Shadowbringers as I bounced around a lot until then and was a tourist after coming back in the end of arr/beginning of Heavensward. I am not having issues finding groups (except BLU spell groups lol) and RP (yes I do that, I never did until this game) has been hit hard by RMT bans and no one wants to admit it because everyone still believes everyone owns 20 FC houses and that's how they get their massive amounts of gil. LOL.
I'm not an RPer but I can imagine that there are flaws in every subgroup of the community (including RMT lol).
Glad to hear that you're still finding enjoyment!! What's your favorite content?
I've played since Heavensward, and this happens EVERY expansion.
But for the most part Dawntrail is the best the game has ever been (excluding the story), we have so F'ing much content these days compared to what we had in HW or STB.
If anything, the game is in a healthy position now, but obviously for some people there's not enough, or they've done the things they wanted to do this expansion, and are playing other stuff while waiting for new updates.
Taking breaks once in a while is also healthy, rather than burning out on the game you like, it's better to take a short break to refresh yourself in that case.
i would love for this game to die. I want a new FF MMO. 14 is just too dated now, both in visuals and gameplay.
Curious if you’ve played since the graphics update? I know it’s not a huge upgrade but I’ve found it appealing without being super new or jarring.
Appreciate ya. Thanks for sharing.
Appreciate you as well!! Thanks :)
It’s not as filled up in certain areas like when the new exp first dropped but there are still people playing .. point be is that money could be consistent after the expansion is better content was avail end game.. they fell off on this one as resulted in allot not subscribing or playing as much. That match is real. Is it dead? No I find myself playing new game plus to remind me of better stories and moments but after if there isn’t t anything to do I may take a break. Unless I go on one of those goddsdammned fixations on glam and end up proging a raid for the glam.
I mean, glam is the true end game lol
Totally makes sense though!!
Yeah I honestly just mainly think it's people trying to justify their burnout by fully blaming it on individual aspects of the game (ie, story). Like you, I've had gaps where I've gone a month or more without playing, it's natural when you have thousands of hours in a game you've been playing for years. When 7.1 dropped I blasted the game every single day for couple months but rn I'm mostly raid logging for FRU (with an exception for Chaotic) and it's pretty chill; think a lot more people need to be okay with doing that and the communities' relationship with the game and the devs would be a lot more healthy.
No, there is no burnout to justify, stop this lazy cop out bullshit I am tired of it. Stop defending stagnant development by blaming the players on it. Stop saying "play other games", EVERYBODY PLAYS OTHER GAMES. Do you know what that is also a cure to? BAD GAMES. You are ACTIVELY advising people not play the game you are claiming is totes not suffering and riddled with issues.
I started playin XIV at the tail end of Heavensward and up until the infamous 5.2 patch. My feelings about the game are numerous but put concisely I'd say that the game was made too accessible, especially with the flattening of class designs. This focus in accessibility also manifested itself in the social policing in the game and the community was never the same after the ToS changes at the end of Stormblood, 24 man raids went from boysterous and fun to quiet with only the protected "identities" being able to freely boast about anything knowing full well that any word against them would be a bannable offense. This damocles sword ruined half public chatter in the game and the rampant degenerate talk (which only really belong to private spaces) ruined the other half. I've logged on a free week sometime in 2023 and the first thing I saw when going to Limsa for a quest was open gay petplay and honestly I'd rather work overtime than deal with that crap.
What server are you in if you don't mind me asking? I truly believe that some servers have different unwritten standards than others.
@Pyra_Sydannia i used to be on Lamia. Way back then it was not really known for anything but that could have changed since the wowfugees came. Complaining about that stuff in balmung/crystal would have been like complaining about how wet it is under the rain.
It pains me a lot cos many content creators posted negatively about DT and how the expansion sucks. I mean, its not helping the game. Players who wanna try playing the game and those returning players will no longer play the game because of so many content creators who made negative reviews about the new expansion. I remember ARR was very boring before same with Stormblood but both ended with a blast. I believe it will happen again to DT. You are a true WoL and I share the same sentiments as a player who started around 2.0.
Thanks for the input!
i started in 2.3 and have been playing over 12 years. Dawntrail was a huge letdown. their story pacing was really fast when they could have just done dawnservant race as 7.0. wuk lamat is shoved in your face. you know that thing of you aren't the main character in 12...yeah..you aren't the main character in dawntrail. you are babysitting the main character wuk lamat. we ended on a high then it was teased a vacation where we would be adventurers again with the eye catching scions vs scions. we got none of that. we were babysitting what i can assume is a shut in lioness who barely knows anything about the land she wants to rule. competing with 3 brothers, one with daddy issues, two head doing the wrong things for the right reason and catboi who is smitten with foreign tech so much hes willing to force his homeland to adapt to it. it was laughably known that wuk would win the race. moment you met curly, larry and moe you knew she would win. then lets bring in the fact this expac was basically high school musical culminating in that horrid bomb train making montage. then lets go second half with one of the reflections that fell thanks to 5th astral era lala fell from the source. then lets throw in technology like nothing. a ruler who is just elidibus (shb) x golbez but a program error has made her just focus on gathering souls for her pc program people. it was horrendous. instead of changing trajectory...we get more wuk forced into our laps with a really stupid dino boss fight in the lastest patch. not to mention a chaotic raid that has more toxicity from the community then ever...then we got eden ultimate..yet more stuff most wont do. the only things this expac had going for it was the maps. they were beautiful. the npcs were good but the rest wasn't. IF you don't like what we all have to say...then boohoo. we have a right as paying customers to give our opinion. it was actually because of the story that lots stopped playing and now with the bungle on their end of the blist...we probably will lose more to fear of being stalked. square isn't in a good place right now and they need to right themself to get back on that footing they loved with shb and endwalker
You have a write to say what you want and others do too. No one is saying that opinions shouldn’t be shared. They should!
My claims go against the doomsday “game is dead - move on” mentality. Honestly expressing a full critique is so much better than those who are just saying “IT’S DEAD” and I think we need more of that.
You seem passionate about the game, and that’s fantastic- I’d think it be wrong to assume that we, as a community, should go silent on a real talk and critique. It’s much more productive than just doomsday.
@@canuckraven I respect your opinion.
@@Pyra_Sydannia Hi. Thanks for the reply. Just this week, I came across like 5+ videos regarding the doomsday of FFXIV and your vid is like a breath of fresh air from the negativities. I still believe that SE will prove them all wrong!!! As for me, I will continue to sub and support the game no matter how the latest expansion most players perceived it as "Boring". DT is a big tribute to Ff9(My fave FF) and it brought so much nostalgia. Aside from that this expansion ignited so much emotion especially during the "Living Memory Part". I worked in a Home Care before and most of my patients are with Dementia and I never expected that SE will tackle something like that in DTs storyline. What Im trying to imply here is that, not everyone hates DT. I am one of those who enjoyed it. ^^
Is it dying? Not really. Should it die? Yes. The saga is over, the world is saved, the systems, code, and graphics are dated. I say they finish up the current "epilogue" story and put a neat bow on everything then let the game enter maintenance mode while they work on making the next FF online game.
A lot of people are still happy with the game how it is and shutting the game down would be a huge disservice to those people. Plus if it's anything like FF11 - we still have over a decade more of FF14 at least.
I disagree, I played from beta 2.0 seen all the ups and downs, and now I've fully quit. Same tired mechanics, same story beats, nothing has changed since hw just maintained and/or gotten worse. I am not the only one. People from my static and fc have quit, with a fair amount taking a break and giving it one more expac. If nothing actually changes, the game will be on a downward spiral. If that change is more class identity or a major change in how the story plays out, who knows. I don't think the game is quite dying yet, but I do know we are not alone. Game has felt stagnant for a long time now and thats where a lot of us are coming from.
Saying where not alone is the most nothing statement ever, yea no shit there's always a group of people who doesn't or does like "insert whatever". Yo did you know there a group of people who doesn't like Marvel Rivals right now and aren't playing it o shitttttt. I think the game is fine the general population has said the story is crap this time around but everything else has been fine. But if you listen to the terminally online youtube comments or twitch chats you'd think those opinions numbers in the millions which I don't believe.
These things people keep saying they like in an mmo "class identity" "open world" I don't believe either, if they all liked it so much they'd play wow or gw2 but they don't. GW2 gives you every illusion of choice you want when building your "class identity" and that game isn't getting this surge of millions of players these comments keep talking about. I think the game will be fine it will obviously lose some players cause the story is bad this expac. But gamers are just one 3 minute trailer away from forgetting whatever bs they where harping on. You know it and I know it.
Saying stuff has just gotten objectively worse or just maintained since HW is just being disingenuous.
Quitting a game that doesn't match your expectations is fair and valid.
I know for me, I just started getting into Ultimate content in the last year and I'm loving the raid scene more than ever, but to each their own.
No matter how good the game gets I truly believe that people will come and go no matter how "perfect" it is. Between life changes, personal preferences, etc. - that will always be a constant.
No, yes
How about yes, no?
Been playing a long time, it definitely feels like it's falling apart.
If you're willing to share, what specifics are making you feel this way? I love hearing others' perspectives on it - especially if you've been playing awhile.
Dawntrail was rushed and it shows.
I'm not sure if it feels rushed as much as unfinished if that makes any sense. It feels like a new team or at least new pieces. Definitely the "vacation episode" or "filler episode."
Furry Fantasy 14. Dawntrail made me cancel my decade old subscription. I lost large houses on multiple servers, but I don't care. I almost quit back at Endwalker and truly hated Island Sanctuary. DT was the final straw. Is it worth it? I think the game has gone to a more Japanese player-base focus (meaning dumbass content). I have zero interest in what's coming next. Burnt too many times now. Is it dead or dying? Yes. Even Zepla left for good.
To save you all 15 minutes of wasted time, yes it's worth it. No the game isn't dying. Just try it. Playing for ten years doesn't mean shit in this case because so many things can change in ten years.
Hey Cordie - hope you're doing okay out there!
This is an opinion piece, as stated in the video - so it means shit to those who are interested in watching it. The point of this video is to give a perspective. If you don't care about 10 years of experience - that's your opinion. You have yours, and I have mine.
Have a great day!
no. i h i have just walked away it is pish now . story shit not worth doing
That's valid - if it's not for you, it's not for you.
We've had this from Zep, which was literally clickbait so I'm not even going to watch your video. In fact, videos like this just contribute to the negativity and create a downward spirial. If you actually do play and enjoy the game yourself, it would be better to create videos explaining why it IS good to play, not "zomg it's dedge" clickbait crap. It's had 129 views and 5 comments - nobody wants this crap.
Why are you attacking people who want to be critical about the game that they spend both money and time on? If you enjoy the game so much then go play it
who would play the game now except raiders, limsa afkers, and second-life retards and mod beasts? Clearly not from Zepla, her video offered valid criticisms and clearly explanation why DT was a bad expensive story wise.
@@rb7619 Because I'm tired of constant clickbait and sensationalised "headlines" to drive views - which, in this case, has totally backfired. If you actually want views and traffic, then make positive videos that highlight the enjoyable parts to get more engagement.
You don’t have to watch my video but clearly you didn’t get the point of my video. I’m sick of the rage bait too and this video is to dispel the rumors that this game is dying at large, especially for new players.
I have plenty of positive videos in this space but if you want to find another creator you’re more than free to.
@ I get that, but maybe a non clickbait title other than "Is FFXIV dying?" would be better - such as "FFXIV is amazing because..." - something a bit more upbeat.