Edge of Time to me, is a Spider-Man game you either love or hate. (Or have another look on it). The gameplay was definitely a weak point, but the story is so brilliant and does a good job making a challenging plot while also staying faithful to the characters in it. You also perfectly explained the difference between ceo Peter and Miles. I appreciate this game's story for showing a side of Peter we don't usually talk about. Peter is meant to be very selfless and caring towards others and all around good, and he's very mentally strong when it comes to his resilience, but this game shows that even he has a breaking point, but this point is one that's also his own deemed act of selflessness, and trying to help others. And that's probably the best part of this game for me.
I'm surprised when I find some people are divisive on this game's take on Peter, I saw another review that pretty much laid into both the gameplay AND the writing. Ik ya can't satisfy everyone, but Idk damn just different preferences I guess.
I love the chemistry between Peter and Miguel it's so good seeing Peter's sarcasm contrast with Miguel stoicism it's fascinating and funny at the same time, I can just watch these two just sit around and talk and I would still be invested, we just don't see superhero crossovers like this anymore. Also this game has my favorite adaptation of Miguel O'Hara outside of the comics he is stern and stoic but not entirely humorless he's got a perfect balance, and it's great.
Loved both Shattered Dimensions and Edge of Time as a kid and wish I could play them again. The Spider-Verse comics and films owe a lot to them for sure. The themes of Across the Spider-Verse and funny enough, the Flash movie (and Flashpoint in general) are all found in Edge of Time too and it handles both extremely well. A hero needs to do everything in his power to save everyone as his responsibility, but to tamper with nature to change the past and reject the scars that make you who you are is an abuse of that responsibility.
It's a game I love for what it achieves narratively with it's characters, I don't fault anyone for not enjoying the gameplay I know it's rough but I will genuinely always love this game for making me familiar with and admiring Miguel as a character and how he's much more than a gimicky dark Spider-Man of the future. I'm happy to hear that Spiderverse got his character right even if I'm a bit let down more people seem to like his look above most anything else since I felt it would've been nice to have a fully authentic take inside and out to represent the character like how this game did it since he's still massively niche and underrated compared to some other Spider characters imo. Good review Diego glad you still emphasized the quality of the story, wish Activision weren't the ones dictating the development of this game, really want a remake of this one to do the whole thing justice and let more people enjoy it.
@@DiegoReviews as did you in this video, looking forward to the next one you got planned. It'll be interesting to hear your thoughts on WoS as that's one where I feel it has the opposite problem of great gameplay but a mostly weak narrative. lol
While I love the story and voice acting in Edge of Time, I still think the narrative has a couple of missed opportunities they could have taken with Walker going back in time.Sloan establishing Alchemax before Oscorp and Stark Industries I think could’ve been interesting to explore the larger ramifications of doing that. Perhaps in this alternate timeline Tony Stark and Norman Osborn have teamed up and Norman makes an appearance not as the Green Goblin but as Iron Patriot. The Green goblin essentially wouldn’t exist in this timeline, which would lead to a ripple effect of Gwen being with Peter in the game instead of Mary Jane. Making Peters wish for Miquel to save her to be more conflicting for the player as we know she’s not supposed to be with him but maybe in this one timeline we can choose to let it slide. Plus, it would’ve been cool to also have a boss fight with Iron Patriot. I quite like the idea that regardless of timeline whether Norman becomes the Green Goblin or not, he’s still an arsehole. I understand the dev time was very strict and it sucks Activision wouldn’t let them be more ambitious.
I look back at this game when I first played it and it definitely had a big impact on me as a kid especially being that it introduced Spider-Man 2099 to me. I didn't know other version of Spider-Man Even existed I just thought there was the one from 616. I've been replaying it recently and honestly no joke i love it just as much as when I first played it. Don't get me wrong it can get a little repetitive, I wish there were more boss fights and better environments to explore. But man the story and the banter between the two Spider-Man are just so perfect I can't hate it.
This game was my initial introduction to spider-man 2099(aside from the ultimate show) and the dynamic between peter and miguel was definitely a highlight for me, i knew that arc in spiderverse 2 was awfully familiar when i heard miguel talking about the bigger picture as compared to one person in more ways than one, for example in this game we're shown what happens when someone looks at their destiny and tries to alter events (ceo peter) and what happens when someone cares about the bigger picture as opposed to a single person (miguel) and in a way they kinda remixed that arc in a subtle way that really puts what it means to be spider-man into question
I still love it. While there are issues with the gameplay, I enjoyed the performances, the story and look to the game. It's one I played just for fun. It's not perfect, but I enjoyed it
Great review. You'll really coming into your own style here. I love this game. Untill the Insomniac games, EoT was the most story heavy game Spidey ever had. Heck, it only has four bosses. That's practically unheard of, especially three of them being originals. Seriously, every Spider-Man game since the ps1 games by Neversoft has had Shocker, Rhino, or Doc Ock as a boss fight and EoT almost averts that with Atrocious.
@@DiegoReviews You're welcome though I have to make an amendment: None of these three villains were in Web of Shadows. But turns out Rhino, Shocker, or a symbiote has been a boss fight since the Genesis/SNES.
I actually was waiting to watch this video as I was finishing up my Hard Mode playthrough to Platinum the game on PS3! Fun fact I saw about CEO Peter that I don't see pretty much anyone picking up on (probably since it's hidden away in the model viewer bio for the character) is that the anti-aging drug Peter developed was actually stated to be corrupting his mind alongside slowly diminishing his spider powers. Feels like a bit of a cop out explanation put there to help subside any possible fans who were upset by the direction of the character, but it's weird such a seemingly important part of the character's backstory is hidden away like that
It's a good Spider-Man story with solid voice acting and even pretty good graphics for the time, it just isn't good at being a video game, if it were an animated movie instead it would've fared far better
I'm going to say no. There is A LOT of time traveling mumbo jumbo to be honest and if you have some suspension of disbelief, as all should when it comes to anything time travel, the story is actually really good. What isn't as good is the gameplay unfortunately. It's basically a stripped down Shattered Dimensions. Now I do want to say that it definitely isn't bad, just...not as good as Shattered Dimensions. Though I really can't blame Beenox as Activision literally only game them about a year to develop it so needless to say they were very rushed. What also kinda sucks is the villain roster, as in there are barely any in it. You have new villain Walker Sloan (who you don't fight), Dr. Octopus (who you also don't fight), Anti Venom, Black Cat 2099, and another new villain named Atrocity (a freak combination of Sloan, Doc Ock and Anti Venom). That's literally it. At least the DS version added much more villains in Overdrive 2099, Menace, Big Wheel 2099, Shocker, Arcade 2099 and Rhino. I love when they use the more obscure/lesser known rogues in Spider-Man games, gives it a nice breathe of fresh air ao to speak.
Probably won't see this but I wish we actually got a fight against Evil Peter similar to Peter vs Miles in insomniac SM2 instead of Peter using a spider mech
The game's GamePlay definitely had a lot of flaws but for some reason I didn't care and enjoyed it a lot. I only have one complain about the game and it's those challenges. They were so annoying do this do that ik you can ignore then but I couldn't resist the urge not to try them every time. Wish there was an option to disable them
Same, I understand wanting to keep things looking fresh and all but I really wish teams would give these great designs room to breath instead of changing them up in the next movie. That goes for live action movies too, basically just changing costumes drastically when they don't need to I feel. In the latter's case I understand doing it if there's issues with or something happens to the original suit, like with the raimi sm movies having a slightly different suit in the sequels, but if that's the case then like those movies I'd prefer they keep the new one looking mostly the same with minor tweaks and improvements. For Miles I sorta understand it since his first suit was literally just one of Peter's spray painted over, but Miguel had one cameo then looked drastically different in the sequel. It was jarring to say the least, even if I understand them maybe wanting the freedom to do their own take on Miguel. It still felt like a bit much for anyone who's more familiar with the character I'd say.
I am playing this game now for the first time unfortunately i have seen the game before many times because i also skipped it when it was released but i have got my hands on one copy. My thougts on the game: i love the story and the gameplay is good but the web of challenges i hate it that it has a strict time when it comes to challenges and the medals are almost broken. I wanted to have many alternative suits as possible but this method keeps me from getting 2 or 3 suits and thats it. Anyway i think the game is great overall but the challenges are bad.
I just enjoy the game the gameplay is fun I love the story and it’s just one those games that you can just play enjoy the story and move on nothing insane or remarkable but a fun experience
Miles situation is completely different from "evil" Peter's you make a false equivalency, Peter's tragedies have already happened. Miles' have not, they're in MOTION, but they have not happened as you say they're DESTINED, which is not the same as fated. One can change destiny, so it's not at all the same. Miles is choosing to not ignore a known outcome. A better comparison is to that of the situation YOU already pointed out. Peter finds out Mary Jane will die if nothing is done, that's the same situation. So again I wouldn't say Miles' actions are anything like "evil" Peter's by any stretch.
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Edge of Time to me, is a Spider-Man game you either love or hate. (Or have another look on it). The gameplay was definitely a weak point, but the story is so brilliant and does a good job making a challenging plot while also staying faithful to the characters in it. You also perfectly explained the difference between ceo Peter and Miles. I appreciate this game's story for showing a side of Peter we don't usually talk about. Peter is meant to be very selfless and caring towards others and all around good, and he's very mentally strong when it comes to his resilience, but this game shows that even he has a breaking point, but this point is one that's also his own deemed act of selflessness, and trying to help others. And that's probably the best part of this game for me.
I'm surprised when I find some people are divisive on this game's take on Peter, I saw another review that pretty much laid into both the gameplay AND the writing.
Ik ya can't satisfy everyone, but Idk damn just different preferences I guess.
Can you please give me your thoughts on this stream critique the story of this game? th-cam.com/users/live67MECtpJ22M?si=hF7pTI-30wI-ecn-
I love the chemistry between Peter and Miguel it's so good seeing Peter's sarcasm contrast with Miguel stoicism it's fascinating and funny at the same time, I can just watch these two just sit around and talk and I would still be invested, we just don't see superhero crossovers like this anymore. Also this game has my favorite adaptation of Miguel O'Hara outside of the comics he is stern and stoic but not entirely humorless he's got a perfect balance, and it's great.
What do you think superhero crossovers are like now?
@@UnrealNeoBat rushed and lazy.
@@tylerbertram7065 and what does that make Marvel's Midnight Suns? (Game)
@beyondthebat1184 never played so I wouldn't know
@@tylerbertram7065 I think you are going to love it.
Loved both Shattered Dimensions and Edge of Time as a kid and wish I could play them again. The Spider-Verse comics and films owe a lot to them for sure. The themes of Across the Spider-Verse and funny enough, the Flash movie (and Flashpoint in general) are all found in Edge of Time too and it handles both extremely well. A hero needs to do everything in his power to save everyone as his responsibility, but to tamper with nature to change the past and reject the scars that make you who you are is an abuse of that responsibility.
It's a game I love for what it achieves narratively with it's characters, I don't fault anyone for not enjoying the gameplay I know it's rough but I will genuinely always love this game for making me familiar with and admiring Miguel as a character and how he's much more than a gimicky dark Spider-Man of the future. I'm happy to hear that Spiderverse got his character right even if I'm a bit let down more people seem to like his look above most anything else since I felt it would've been nice to have a fully authentic take inside and out to represent the character like how this game did it since he's still massively niche and underrated compared to some other Spider characters imo.
Good review Diego glad you still emphasized the quality of the story, wish Activision weren't the ones dictating the development of this game, really want a remake of this one to do the whole thing justice and let more people enjoy it.
Than you so much! You made excellent points.
@@DiegoReviews as did you in this video, looking forward to the next one you got planned. It'll be interesting to hear your thoughts on WoS as that's one where I feel it has the opposite problem of great gameplay but a mostly weak narrative. lol
While I love the story and voice acting in Edge of Time, I still think the narrative has a couple of missed opportunities they could have taken with Walker going back in time.Sloan establishing Alchemax before Oscorp and Stark Industries I think could’ve been interesting to explore the larger ramifications of doing that. Perhaps in this alternate timeline Tony Stark and Norman Osborn have teamed up and Norman makes an appearance not as the Green Goblin but as Iron Patriot. The Green goblin essentially wouldn’t exist in this timeline, which would lead to a ripple effect of Gwen being with Peter in the game instead of Mary Jane. Making Peters wish for Miquel to save her to be more conflicting for the player as we know she’s not supposed to be with him but maybe in this one timeline we can choose to let it slide. Plus, it would’ve been cool to also have a boss fight with Iron Patriot. I quite like the idea that regardless of timeline whether Norman becomes the Green Goblin or not, he’s still an arsehole. I understand the dev time was very strict and it sucks Activision wouldn’t let them be more ambitious.
I didn't like shattered dimensions, but I really liked edge of time when I originally played it. On replay, it sure is a hard game to enjoy
I always wondered if Web of Shadows was supposed to be a Venom game originally, since the morality system makes way more sense for him than Spidey.
How is that related to Edge of Time?
I look back at this game when I first played it and it definitely had a big impact on me as a kid especially being that it introduced Spider-Man 2099 to me. I didn't know other version of Spider-Man Even existed I just thought there was the one from 616.
I've been replaying it recently and honestly no joke i love it just as much as when I first played it.
Don't get me wrong it can get a little repetitive, I wish there were more boss fights and better environments to explore. But man the story and the banter between the two Spider-Man are just so perfect I can't hate it.
I still have this game and it still kicks butt!
This game was my initial introduction to spider-man 2099(aside from the ultimate show) and the dynamic between peter and miguel was definitely a highlight for me, i knew that arc in spiderverse 2 was awfully familiar when i heard miguel talking about the bigger picture as compared to one person in more ways than one, for example in this game we're shown what happens when someone looks at their destiny and tries to alter events (ceo peter) and what happens when someone cares about the bigger picture as opposed to a single person (miguel) and in a way they kinda remixed that arc in a subtle way that really puts what it means to be spider-man into question
I still love it. While there are issues with the gameplay, I enjoyed the performances, the story and look to the game. It's one I played just for fun. It's not perfect, but I enjoyed it
Fr man the gameplay was a bit iffy but the characters, the dialogue & the story was just great. It really carried it.
I love Spider-Man edge of time story it’s really awesome and badass in my opinion.
I want a solo open world Spider-Man 2099 game someday
Same!
I gotta still play this one too, loved shattered dimensions, but this looks fun, great vid man!!!
Great review. You'll really coming into your own style here.
I love this game. Untill the Insomniac games, EoT was the most story heavy game Spidey ever had. Heck, it only has four bosses. That's practically unheard of, especially three of them being originals. Seriously, every Spider-Man game since the ps1 games by Neversoft has had Shocker, Rhino, or Doc Ock as a boss fight and EoT almost averts that with Atrocious.
Thanks so much, Cain! I’m really happy with the style of videos I’m settling into.
@@DiegoReviews You're welcome though I have to make an amendment: None of these three villains were in Web of Shadows. But turns out Rhino, Shocker, or a symbiote has been a boss fight since the Genesis/SNES.
I actually was waiting to watch this video as I was finishing up my Hard Mode playthrough to Platinum the game on PS3!
Fun fact I saw about CEO Peter that I don't see pretty much anyone picking up on (probably since it's hidden away in the model viewer bio for the character) is that the anti-aging drug Peter developed was actually stated to be corrupting his mind alongside slowly diminishing his spider powers.
Feels like a bit of a cop out explanation put there to help subside any possible fans who were upset by the direction of the character, but it's weird such a seemingly important part of the character's backstory is hidden away like that
Thank you for telling us i always asked myself why peter choose to be a villain and there you go a random guy on youtube finally explains it
This man always delivers on good content
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It's a good Spider-Man story with solid voice acting and even pretty good graphics for the time, it just isn't good at being a video game, if it were an animated movie instead it would've fared far better
I'm going to say no. There is A LOT of time traveling mumbo jumbo to be honest and if you have some suspension of disbelief, as all should when it comes to anything time travel, the story is actually really good. What isn't as good is the gameplay unfortunately. It's basically a stripped down Shattered Dimensions. Now I do want to say that it definitely isn't bad, just...not as good as Shattered Dimensions. Though I really can't blame Beenox as Activision literally only game them about a year to develop it so needless to say they were very rushed. What also kinda sucks is the villain roster, as in there are barely any in it. You have new villain Walker Sloan (who you don't fight), Dr. Octopus (who you also don't fight), Anti Venom, Black Cat 2099, and another new villain named Atrocity (a freak combination of Sloan, Doc Ock and Anti Venom). That's literally it. At least the DS version added much more villains in Overdrive 2099, Menace, Big Wheel 2099, Shocker, Arcade 2099 and Rhino. I love when they use the more obscure/lesser known rogues in Spider-Man games, gives it a nice breathe of fresh air ao to speak.
Will forever love this game
Got my copy of the game signed by Josh Keaton himself
An issue I have with this game is how difficult alt costumes are to unlock :((
I think I only managed to unlock 2 of them after 1 playthrough
Probably won't see this but I wish we actually got a fight against Evil Peter similar to Peter vs Miles in insomniac SM2 instead of Peter using a spider mech
This game and Shattered Dimensions desperately deserves to get remasters like I would totally play the remasters of both of these games 🤘🔥🕷️🕸️
The game's GamePlay definitely had a lot of flaws but for some reason I didn't care and enjoyed it a lot. I only have one complain about the game and it's those challenges. They were so annoying do this do that ik you can ignore then but I couldn't resist the urge not to try them every time. Wish there was an option to disable them
I loved across the spider verse but i hate the new costume designs for miguel and miles lol
Same, I understand wanting to keep things looking fresh and all but I really wish teams would give these great designs room to breath instead of changing them up in the next movie. That goes for live action movies too, basically just changing costumes drastically when they don't need to I feel.
In the latter's case I understand doing it if there's issues with or something happens to the original suit, like with the raimi sm movies having a slightly different suit in the sequels, but if that's the case then like those movies I'd prefer they keep the new one looking mostly the same with minor tweaks and improvements.
For Miles I sorta understand it since his first suit was literally just one of Peter's spray painted over, but Miguel had one cameo then looked drastically different in the sequel. It was jarring to say the least, even if I understand them maybe wanting the freedom to do their own take on Miguel. It still felt like a bit much for anyone who's more familiar with the character I'd say.
I am playing this game now for the first time unfortunately i have seen the game before many times because i also skipped it when it was released but i have got my hands on one copy. My thougts on the game: i love the story and the gameplay is good but the web of challenges i hate it that it has a strict time when it comes to challenges and the medals are almost broken. I wanted to have many alternative suits as possible but this method keeps me from getting 2 or 3 suits and thats it. Anyway i think the game is great overall but the challenges are bad.
please diago tell me your going to review web of shadows next?also when your going to stream again on youtube? been long time
Do a video on the Ultimate Spider-Man game
I just enjoy the game the gameplay is fun I love the story and it’s just one those games that you can just play enjoy the story and move on nothing insane or remarkable but a fun experience
Bro you should come up to northeastern PA for a chill session you could take in my glorious spidey swag collection lol
'Onimusha 3: Demon Siege' is the best game to compare to this one, it's a great PS2 game that has 'Quantum Causality'.
Interesting! I’ll have to check that out
@@DiegoReviews Have fun.
How is emulation the solution to the prices? You still need the game to emulate it.
he used a cracked version maybe
Great retrospective
Thank you!
Miles situation is completely different from "evil" Peter's you make a false equivalency, Peter's tragedies have already happened. Miles' have not, they're in MOTION, but they have not happened as you say they're DESTINED, which is not the same as fated. One can change destiny, so it's not at all the same. Miles is choosing to not ignore a known outcome. A better comparison is to that of the situation YOU already pointed out. Peter finds out Mary Jane will die if nothing is done, that's the same situation. So again I wouldn't say Miles' actions are anything like "evil" Peter's by any stretch.
Hey do you have a opinion on spider man 2 ? (PS5)
Looks great!