Sonic Advance 3 - Dimps' Finest Hour? - IMPLANTgames
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In today’s video I dive in and take a look to see if Sonic Advance 3 is still good. Enjoy!
Something worth mentioning is that SA3's story and ending are tied to Sonic Battle, given that Gemerl was created in the image and with the data of the robot Emerl from that game.
That sweet ending with Gemerl and Cream is granted new meaning considering Cream's and Emerl's relation, the sudden betrayal and powerup before the EX boss makes more sense after knowing about Gizoids and the battles against him are made more impactful by what happens in the end of SB.
This needs to be top comment
Pierah Was about to say the same thing.
the attacks the characters do in sa3 are the same they do in sonic battle too
Don’t forget the EX boss theme is Coliseum from Sonic Battle!
Too bad that storyline was dumped into nullspace after Sonic chronicles and Ken Penders.
I do not know why people still want sa3 when we've have had it since 2004
I love this comment so much. I laughed until my lungs spasm'd.
Mr Needlemouse I love making this joke XD
I would love making a joke too if it was pure genius.
Mr Needlemouse clever
You mean 2006?
Eggmanland?
The world split into pieces?
The only thing missing is the Were-wolf-hog-man.
Sonic Advance 3, the only game where the Master Emerald can perform Chaos Control.
implantgames SA2's final story?
18:06
"Gemerl then transforms into a robot..."
Wait, hold up a second.
I don't think he was a normal robot after all... he might be... A ROBOT!
I still don't understand why these games look so much better than those DS sonic games. Isn't the DS a more capable system?
Spritework will always age better than 3D models.
Kelsey Raabe Yeah but it's not just the sprites. Or the 3D. These games just look so much better. The backgrounds, animations, etc. They look like they were made on the superior hardware. It's weird.
Ehrisaia O'Shannon. I think it is the way that Rush combines 2D backgrounds with 3D models. I honestly still enjoy the artwork of the Rush games, and Rush Adventure is graphically nice for the system. But take a step back, and the models do clash a lot more than they should. Still, I do like the uniqueness of the look.
Yeeeeeeah. Rush is fun, but it's an ugly, ugly game. Lol.
I agree. Sonic Advance sprite graphics ftw. The Sonic Rush games in general are overrated imo.
The Advance series especially Advance 3 which is to this date my favorite Advance and Sonic game were really good titles to me, they tie up to Battle, the tag-team mechanics are my favorite asset in the third game made me enjoy more the game with its different type combinations and a better Chaos Emerald system than 2 (though the Chao were a pain to get). Overall this game is enjoyable and I would highly recommend picking it up.
Crisrey 07 I've been recently having the thought, what if they brought back the team mechanic in a 3D game.
Let's say there's a huge gap with hovering enemies that Sonic can't damage in midair, have Tails launch Sonic over the pit and too the other side.
What made me enjoy this game more than the others its because it was like a mix between Advance 1 and 2 in terms of speed and platforming, but what really made me like it its the fact that this was the last 2D game with various characters and the tag-team assist system was amazing, this was probably where Modern Sonic was still doing good and had no need to throw complicated stuff (plots,etc) after this game, Advance 3 is a good game but I would say that the whole trilogy did well and still does, too bad they are generally underrated.
They are definitely overlooked, that's for sure.
Really? I barely see any mention of these games
I think you may have misread what I wrote, I'm agreeing with you mate :)
Oh yeah, my mistake thought it said "overrated", my apologies
Now go for the next GBA Sonic game. Sonic Battle. Honestly, I think Sonic battle is a great game.
Skyline1994PL Honestly, I second this, Sonic has some great games on the GBA. I really wish I know about em when I was younger.
Skyline1994PL And after that sonic one (gba)
And the Rush games.
I LOVED Sonic Battle!!
I dunno if it's Kris's thing tho.
Sonic Advance 2 ---> Sonic Battle ---> Sonic Advance 3... (in terms of continuity)
Ah finally my favourite sonic game ever. Love Chaos angel as well.
It was so refreshing for the final Zone to be one of the best, instead of one of the worst like in the classic series!
My first gameboy game. My first game ever...
Right on :)
I'm surprised by all these comments saying "SA3 is my favorite of the trilogy" when all I've ever heard in my life from everyone is either completely shitting on the game or not even knowing the game ever existed lol
"just don't bother with the chaos emeralds"
i feel like this is a recurring thing with the trilogy lol, the 7th special stage was an absolute pain. but other than that i really liked this game.
I think you could say the same for the classic series as well haha :)
Asian Railgun
same
@@kenwalkensdeadchannelcanal2886 I don't know I think advanced 1 and 3 are fun to play but advanced to is by far the most boring special stage in the whole franchise.
dude, your gameplay footage is superb quality
I really love Sonic Advance 3. It's easily one of my favorites. Sure, I remember it being pretty frustrating at some points...I agree, the bonus levels suck, and Sonic's momentum is weird. Regardless, this one's team mechanic is very brilliant and unique. I loved experimenting with each teams' move sets and names! (Sonic + Amy = Team Lovely Couple FTW!!) ...But what blows it all away for me is this one's soundtrack. The music in this game is *LEGENDARY.* Seriously, this is one of my favorite soundtracks in the Sonic series! Some tracks are just so epic. Twinkle Snow and Chaos Angel themes are among my favorite video game tracks _of all time._ It's just a wonderful soundtrack!! Easily up there with Sonic CD imo. What a fine review of this phenomenal game!! 😘
I agree, the soundtrack is amazing. I would have gone indepth a bit more but I kind of covered everything in the Advance 2 review. Seriously though, a few tracks are still stuck in my head :)
You can’t go wrong with this games greenhill remix. Probably my favourite version of that one
WOW LOOK AT THEM GRAPHICS. GBA was a 32 bit system. Imagine if these were the trilogy on the Saturn?!
You really hit the nail on the head with this review, Kris! You pretty much summed up how exactly I feel about the game.
Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment :)
Yup, I completely agree with this review. I adore the game, but it's easily my least favorite after replaying the trilogy recently, I don't see myself replaying it either, due to the frustrating enemy placement and hazards, it's not fun.
4:04
iplantgames: "1st City theme in a 2d Sonic Game"
Me: "Huehuehuehue"
Your point about them "butchering" Sonic's control is fair, especially with the idiotic decision to lock away characters behind him, but I don't think his control is as bad as you're making it out to be. DiMPS wanted to emphasize how the Speed characters are primarily for speed and not so much for tight platforming and the new control allows for lots of techniques not possible before; ever tried jumping out of a spindash? You keep ALL of your speed in midair and can hit the ground running at top speed.
P.S: To dodge the punching attack, stand in the corner and spindash to the other side when the punch is about to strike. Before you call this unacceptable boss design, remember that Mania did this exact same thing in the Metal Sonic boss
I didn't call it unacceptable. I said I didn't like the random attacks. Had the punching shown up with each playthrough, I would have had a chance to master dodging the attack. Instead, it was just a surprise in the 20% of the time the boss used it.
My first Sonic game! 😍
i am loving watching old school gaming reviews
Right on :)
If you need a new GBA trilogy to examine, how about the Castlevania games?
Someday, but I'd like to start at the begining with Castlevania on the NES :)
I've spent way too much time with this game...
Loved the music in Sonic Advance 3. My favorite soundtrack of the trilogy. The gameplay...not so much. The game basically stops caring whether you live or die halfway through Route 99's Act 1. So many crush spots and bottomless pits.
I didn't have issues with pits, but the crushing and spikes are awful.
SunsetJam Game: “Prepare to be skewered"
You should look at Sonic Battle for the gba, it ties into this game.
The final Eggman boss is pretty easy if you played Wario Land 3. The floating hand mechanic is similar but not instant death.
I think you're a bit harsh on the Toy Kingdom boss. You mentioned that there's no way to telegraph whether Eggman will launch the missile or the ball-and-chain, but it's based on how close of far away you are from him. If you're close, he'll drop the ball and chain. If you're far, he'll shoot the missile.
Love your video though. Great work.
I love this game! the gameplay, characters and especially the music too. This was my very first Sonic game I ever played and I loved every minute of it.
I'm pretty sure you don't need to collect the key again if you fail the special stage. You just need to jump on the spring again.
Also, Gemerl isn't just a random robot that Cream happens to befriend. It's hinted that Gemerl is a rebuilt Emerl, a Gizoid from Sonic Battle whom Cream and the other characters befriend. The ending is meant to signify that the old Emerl is back, despite his new body. Of course, that means Sonic Advance 3 is a sequel to Sonic Battle. Or at least a follow-up to its story.
The spring re-locks if you fail :(
Oh! I remember now! You actually don't need to collect the key again. Sure, the spring is locked, but jumping on it allows you to access to Special Stage again.
Get out!
I'm serious. If you fail, just jump on the spring again. Trust me, I thought the same thing for a while.
Route 99 is not the first city theme in a Sonic game. The very first game had 2; Spring Yard and Star Light. But I guess that's another thing that Sonic fans choose to ignore, along with Eggman being a human!
I want to replay this game so badly right now. I loved it as a kid and want to see if I still enjoy it!
What Sonic 4 Episode 2 should have been
This is the style of game Sonic Genesis should have been. A remake with Sonic Advance graphics, physics and engine, instead of a piss poor port (or a plain port like what Stealth made)
I really don't understand why Sonic Genesis didn't use the Advance engine. Very odd!
@@implantgames IT did use the Advance engine but said engine just doesn't work with the larger sprites of the Megadrive games and crumbled under them.
I love this game, it was the very first Sonic game I ever played.
The NonAggression Theme is a remix of Colosseum Stage theme from Sonic Battle!
Surely mentioned by now, but you can have more than one key at a time, a max of 9 in fact. So it's worth just replaying levels to grind keys and try new routes etc. It's no less tedious, but being able to set yourself up to jump back into a special stage immediately after failure is leagues above Sonic Advance 2's system.
You make really good thumbnails
Sega makes really great logos/concept art ;)
For some reason for the longest time I actually thought there were four Sonic Advance games. Maybe I just thought that because there were four Super Mario Advance games.
The Advance series are without a doubt my favorite 2D Sonic games, maybe even my favorite Sonic games in general. I can never decide which Advance game is my favorite though, they're also amazing, in my opinion at least.
12:27 OH GOD,MAKE IT STOP
No love for Green Hill remix?
implantgames For me this game has the WORST Green Hill Zone remix
Right on haha :)
@@knuxuki1013 I love the advance series too, oh and the green hill remix isn't one of my favorite song in the game, one of my favorite music in sav3 was chaos angel act 1, and also chaos angel act 2 and obviously act 3 being my favorite!
Don’t forget Sonic Battle!
I've gotten that message loud and clear haha ;)
My favorite Sonic Advance game :)
Great video! Love your work! Please keep those retro reviews comin'!
Can you please review Sonic Rush?
I'm afraid I don't have the recording equipment for the DS.
implantgames as long as you have both a DS and a main copy, I think it's fine to play on a Rom for capture perposes after completing the game on DS
In addition i love the tag mechanic. Great review as well just to let you know. :)
Thanks mate, appreciated!
This is the best review of the game I have seen so far.
Thanks man!
This game is pretty much a sequel to Sonic Battle. This is why Cream befriends Gemerl, as she befriended Emerl in Battle, and why a lot of songs in this game are remixes from Battle
I love sonic battle, and i love what they did there!
Hey Kris, love the videos, was wondering if you'll be covering Sonic Mania at some point? Keep up the hard work!
I agree with everything except the boss comments. I think adding random elements adds uniqueness compared to last games
Request: Is 7 Grand dad underrated
Hmm. I ignored the Sonic Advance trilogy back in the day, but this video has piqued my interest.
themblan honestly, it's the pinnacle of the series in my book.
This is how you make a boost mechanic, not by mashing a button, but by achieving the speed and it just mantaining it, but of course, ramming into an enemy or a wall stops you and you have to get up to speed again, aditionally, you don't become invincible when using it. The game rewards you for your ability by giving you max speed, but at the same time the same speed makes it even harder and losing it takes you to square one, in modern games you just press boost again and it's like nothing happened.
Rich M yep
I love the regular boss theme for this game (mainly the Pinch version).
Wish Sega hired dimps and THQ again for Sonic Advance Trilogy for Nintendo 3ds/2ds alongside with Sonic rush, 2 and color's
Amy w/ Sonic makes her playable and fun finally lmao.
Nice catchy video title... But somehow I think dimps making street fighter 4 made more waves than this
10:37 A- AURORA BOREALIS?!
I assume I said Northern Lights instead?
I was referencing a meme, and plus they're the same thing.
Ahh, the Sonic Advance Trilogy; a trio of fantastic 2D Sonic games, but the "fans" either don't like them or claim they "don't count" because Sonic has green eyes in them! God I hate this fan base!
22:14 more than Sonic 06?
BOI... have i experienced the game over screen in sonic '06 more than once...
the emerald hunt was so hard after 4, i gave up
I wanted to... believe me!
4:01 Starlight zone?
What happens when you beat the game without unlocking the other characters?
The same thing happens, don't worry dude, i got you, i tried a cheat and the same thing happened on what implant said.
Sorry, Toy Kingdom hasn't been done before. Not sure how you get a Casino Night feel from it when it uses none of its gimmicks. Closest you'll get to it is Twinkle Park and that's a 3D stage. I also grew up with Sonic 2 yet I have no clue what you even mean. If you said Carnival night I could at least say maybe. You know, cause balloons.
Did you post this on the wrong video?
I beat Special Stage Mode... Can't say I've accomplished nothing though, but was it really worth it?
I remember being pretty disappointed with Sonic Advance 3, SA2 was definitely my favourite of the trilogy
You never played sonic 3 or s3 and knuckles? They added the flying mechanic for tails, been around wayy before sa3
Tails cannot lift Sonic in S3...
yes Tails can but only when you have a second player control tails.
Tails has always been able to carry Sonic, you just needed a second controller or in the Christian Whitehead games, hold up and control Tails.
Thanks mate but Sonic debuted in 1991.
Chaos angle is angle island
Right on.
But Nightmare mode
Chaos Angel is my favorite zone!
*because of the music.*
Sa3 is so good
I remember having this game as a kid like Advance 2 but I only remember getting as far as Toy kingdom and for some reason my copy is broken now which sucks. So now with the Advance Trilogy reviewed, any plans on Sonic Battle or Sonic The Hedgehog Genesis? (I honestly don't blame you if u skipped STH Genesis)
Genesis is next... As for Battle I was unaware of it's popularity until now, I'll have to check it out!
My biggest problems with this game are the level design, enemy placement and character physics
1.Why are there so many weird spikes and crushing blocks all over the place besides the numerous pitfalls of death? Some of the deaths end up being really cheap.
2. Enemy placement is really odd in this game. A lot of times enemies are placed right where a character would land after a spring jump or ramp jump.
3. Mid air momentum feels really uncomfortable.
I can't say I hate this game but I don't like it either. Overall favorite SA game is 2. 2's enemy placement and level design weren't perfect either but it felt infinitely better than this game.Character momentum wasn't broken like this game either.
I'm in the Top 10 posters here.
What does that mean? You post on the most vids? Most of these vids on this channel? You're among the ten first posters?
Among the first ten posters? Yea.
Looks like you need to go back to Sonic Battle to recap on the plot...
Perhaps.
17:36 Sonic 3? But... this is Sonic ADVANCE 3...
Hey you have to hit up the Sonic Rush series
It increased his acceleration not momentum.
I tried a cheat in the boss level at neo green hill, and no, sonic does NOT gain momentum at all, atleast that kinda makes it easier for people to react faster to... obstacles? I don't know why they removed his momentum in sonic advance 3 but it's fine, it's not like it's a big deal!
Sonic gained momentum in "Sonic Advance" and "Sonic advance 2" and no he does not gain more momentum when in boost mode. (But he does in sonic advance 2)
What about sonic battle
I find the GBA trilogy to be infuriating. All 3 games are soooo close to being genuine classics. With just a few tweaks the 3 games would be truly amazing. But, no, Dimps had to fall back on their dick enemy placements and unnecessary deaths. Bad Dimps, bad!
Taycraftlb That's because you know what the game is from playing it so much. I played Sonic Advance 1 via emulator, and the last two zones are quite relentless with their enemy and hazard placement. I can recall many times where I was running through a stage, came to a stop at a wall, then spikes would impale me from below, and I had no idea, not to mention also remembering having to get past that other stuff just to get to that point
And it was okay in the classics? What? Besides, there are lots of ways to deal with enemies in all 3 games. Almost none of the enemies are armored except the ones you never run into at full speed (unlike in Sonic 3&K or Metropolis zone), so you're always safe as long as you're a ball. You also have way more moves to work with since you can now attack, in Advance 2, you aren't even defenceless mid air after jumping on spring because you have tricks and in Advance 3, you need to use the team mechanic which is incredibly underused by classic players. In terms of checkpoints, rings and lives, it's also a lot more forgiving, hell SA3 even has life farming minigames and when you get a game over, you can replay the stage right away (except in Advance 2). I've played the classics and the Advance games for years extensively and honestly, I found Sonic 3&K was the worst offender of terrible enemy placement, despite this one being the most critically acclaimed of them all (fuck you Marble Garden, fuck you).
Levobertus I 100% agree with you. To me, the classics are annoying and overrated. Sonic 1 is one of the worst games I ever played, sonic 2 is ok until yoy reach metropolis or try to get chaos emeralds. Is worse than in advance 2 and 3! And fuuuuuck 3&knuckles, that game is nothing but trolling all over the place.
Levobertus and also fuuuck mushroom hill, flying battery and pretty much any zone not called sky sanctuary or angel island
what about hydrocity? that was a good zone
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The manga is honestly better
Cheese "AKA" homing missle of mass destruction.
Btw it would be great if taxman would give HD treatment for Advance series too. And for fuck sake, expand viewable area, since screen crunch is imo worst nightmare of these games.
Love the game, but could do without the hub worlds.
They are a bit clumsy but not too obnoxious.
Never clicked so fast
Was I first?
The confused spartan ! Indeed you are first
Well done.
Oh cool
Where is the podcast?
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I hate Sonic Advance 3 as much as I hate Sonic Advance 2. I will always cherish Sonic Advance 1 because in Sonic Advance 1, you don't have to worry about collecting 7 Special Rings and 10 Chao in each level in order to get 7 Chaos Emeralds. I like Sonic Advance 1 a lot better because the game is less stressful.
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the best will always be sonic advance 2
This is the only one in the bunch I don't care for.
Sonic advance’s trilogy is good, BUT HOW THE FUCK DOES DIMPS FUCK UP SONIC 4.
There is a strange quality gap between the Advance Trilogy and Sonic 4, no doubt.
The problems come from Sonic 4 being rather low budged game(I have no Idea who though making SONIC low budged was a good Idea) so Dimps reused the Sonic Rush engine to save some money problem is obviously that the Rush engine was designed for a total revamp of 2d sonic Gameplay rather than the advance engine which is much closer to the Classics Gameplay with some changes like that sonic is at his fastest while running because the ball physics in Advance actually remember that friction is a thing which gave the advance games a unique risk vs reward Gameplay.
Sonic 4 on the other hand tries to use the Rush engine with Classic like level design and boosters to emulate the classics hold down to win segments which obviously isn't really working.
The best example for this would be that Sonic in 4 like in Rush goes out of ball mode when hitting a spring this is in other Dimps sonic games excusable because this have the trick system that allows to to go directly over to an attack something Sonic 4 is obviously missing.
"Dimps' finest hour?"
No.
Oh come on, the game is kinda fine imo.
Sonic caught ice physics from megaman
It does have a certain Mega Man 1 feeling to it haha :)
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That's not even a cool game. It's the worst one ever created.
This game is not worthy of being called "Sonic 3"
That's not what it's called. It's Sonic *Advance* 3.
shupasopni I know, but he occasionally called it "Sonic 3" in the video
My least favorite too!
That damn slippery momentum...
advance 3 is the worst imo
That's fine, i respect your opinion, i think sonic advance (the original) is my favorite, and sonic advance 2 and 3 being right at the corner. Btw, nice pfp!
I disagree with the "Do not get the Chaos Emeralds."
Even though the internet spoils endlessly these days.
Collecting all the emeralds is a lot easier than there were in Sonic Advance 2. Most of the Chao you'll run into and getting the Special keys, well like the Chao, You don't find them they find you.
Plus the keys stack, You can carry up to 9, That means if you fail the special stage you can jump right back in.
As the pinned comment already mention the EX ending is worth it. Plus Super Sonic using Eggman as a Hadoken. XD
I really dont get the hate of sonic A 2 and 3. Those are like the best sonic games
Yeah I like these games, maybe the advance games are not for everyone, maybe they hate advance 3 because of the various pits or crushing deaths, or maybe they hate sonic advance 2 because of sky canion, or maybe they hate sonic advance (the original) because of various... pits- ok ok I think you get the point . . .
(How many "maybe"s i said: 4)