I’ve wondered in the past why Christ was born as a Jew, or if there’s any explanation. That part of the conversation later on in the discussion was great!
Another great episode. I am loving this series. For information in this episode is this mostly from St. Thomas Treatise on Law in the Summa or are there other sources you all are gleaning from?
At 50:00, couldn’t you make a Macintyrian argument about moral intelligibility and narrative such that God needed to preface the fullness of redemption with a story of His acts of identification with His people? It seems clear to me that only through such a preface could we ever receive the full depth of meaning of an event like the paschal mystery Edit: I think your answer involving myth is probably pointing to the same thing 😂 Anyway, I think Macintyre’s analysis could probably be very fruitfully applied here. Thank both of you for your work 🙏🏻
Where does MacIntyre make that argument? Interested. Certainly true, as you said, that there is a fittingness of the whole of Scripture to the paschal mystery. A very profound point worth contemplating. Thanks also for the kind comment!
@ I’m thinking of the first few chapters of After Virtue where he goes through the problems with the enlightenment account of morality. For example with Hume, he says that at least in one instance we can derive an ought from an is, namely in the term “man” in any moral utterance. By the end he demonstrates the opposite, that without the Aristotelian teleology of man, you cannot form any coherent moral utterance. Anthropology gives man a role, which is situated in a narrative, which is the formula for making coherent moral utterances. In a similar way, I think you could argue that the OT serves the NT as giving it the context-the roles of God and man and the narrative of creation, fall and redemption-that makes the person and actions of Jesus intelligible to us. Hopefully there is something worthwhile in that application, God bless! 🙏🏻
I’ve wondered in the past why Christ was born as a Jew, or if there’s any explanation. That part of the conversation later on in the discussion was great!
Thanks, see also Romans 3 and 9, and Galatians 3
Love the golden elephant in the room. 💜
Another great episode. I am loving this series. For information in this episode is this mostly from St. Thomas Treatise on Law in the Summa or are there other sources you all are gleaning from?
Thanks! Yes, specifically ST I-II Q.98-105. Also, of course, a good deal of Scripture.
Interesting!
At 50:00, couldn’t you make a Macintyrian argument about moral intelligibility and narrative such that God needed to preface the fullness of redemption with a story of His acts of identification with His people? It seems clear to me that only through such a preface could we ever receive the full depth of meaning of an event like the paschal mystery
Edit: I think your answer involving myth is probably pointing to the same thing 😂
Anyway, I think Macintyre’s analysis could probably be very fruitfully applied here. Thank both of you for your work 🙏🏻
Where does MacIntyre make that argument? Interested. Certainly true, as you said, that there is a fittingness of the whole of Scripture to the paschal mystery. A very profound point worth contemplating. Thanks also for the kind comment!
@ I’m thinking of the first few chapters of After Virtue where he goes through the problems with the enlightenment account of morality. For example with Hume, he says that at least in one instance we can derive an ought from an is, namely in the term “man” in any moral utterance. By the end he demonstrates the opposite, that without the Aristotelian teleology of man, you cannot form any coherent moral utterance. Anthropology gives man a role, which is situated in a narrative, which is the formula for making coherent moral utterances.
In a similar way, I think you could argue that the OT serves the NT as giving it the context-the roles of God and man and the narrative of creation, fall and redemption-that makes the person and actions of Jesus intelligible to us.
Hopefully there is something worthwhile in that application, God bless! 🙏🏻
How many multilevel literary acrobatics are needed to square catholic version of might is right to have symbolic power over other rival ideologies?
Lots!
pinch of incense