Classic DEX still the best. New Dex does not really bring that Desktop style working. If New Dex only mirrors when you connect to a TV/Monitor, then Classic Dex is still the best as it extends your desktop when you plugin to a TV/Monitor. Classic Dex is what makes me keep going back to Samsung flagship phones
The new Dex is awful. It's basically just a different tablet or touchscreen setup. The POINT of Dex was that it mimics a PC interface. The new one is nothing like that.
Yeah, I don't like it at all. Especially now that it's the default option, it's going to dissuade people from using the actual good version of it. Which will give Samsung an excuse to completely stop supporting it in your devices which will probably happen someday
I wish Samsung would let you choose to force some apps to always open in split view or windowed mode when you're not in dex. That would be a killer feature, apps like password managers or auth managers could use that.
Youd have to make a custom mode, in "the construct" that i use for recording,, i just set up a few if/whens, as well as integrating a bluetooth comms app that played nice with modes. I dont have the name here, my apologies. Modifying gui features in sec apps might not be worth the trouble though, with captive portals getting called and wutnot.
Thank you sir. A true Dex user review. Just watched another TH-camr review it and it turned my stomach. I use mine as a semi desktop replacement and the new features messed with my remote connection app while in full screen mode.
Unpopular opinion: I love the new Samsung Dex! Actually, I only use my tablet with the new Dex UI. For me, it is the perfect combination of a tablet and desktop environment. I hope they keep improving it.
Classic DeX for me, all the way. I don't really mind the other changes so much, but not being able to hit Super + Left or Super + Right to snap windows is unacceptable to me. I use DeX mode to get work done like I'm using a traditional computer; window management and using the keyboard to quickly complete tasks is kind of the point... I'm glad they continue to work on DeX, because I find it very powerful, but this new version of DeX seems to remove essential features more than improves and iterates upon past implementations.
New dex feels like it was thought out to be used with a touchscreen first, competing with stage mode from iPad, that’s why its not on smartphones, while old dex was kept to bring the desktop like interface. Samsung’s got lots to improve in this new dex, but it brings lots of new possibilities.
I'm selling my iPad and ordered a refurbished S8 Ultra, and one of the reasons was that stage manager was atrocious - it really couldn't mimic a laptop, it was just a tablet with a keyboard. So the idea of aiming to copy Stage Manager seems a really bad idea.
I actually like this new one, because the apps that recently opened are stay in the dock as recent. While dex is trying so hard to work like computer, the apps itself are literally mobile apps that shouldn’t be so “easy to close”. And the close button on top of each apps should just minimize it in the same sense as the home or back button in normal phones and tablets. And good for them for ditching all of the back buttons from everywhere
@@sparky6757 it was never meant to mimic a laptop though. Personally I have stage manager always on, I never turn it off. It’s just a better way to manage windows rather than the classic tablet way to do it. The good thing about stage manager is that it is very touch friendly, and if the new dex can provide a very touch friendly way of managing windows that is good, really good. As long as you have to option to swap between old and new.
@oh-noe Samsung's standard way to handle floating windows works better for me than Stage Manager ever did on account of the fact I can resize and move them freely rather than having arbitrary limits, and I can do traditional splits at the same time. If you have a good time with Stage Manager that's great, but the default One UI solution works better for me and DeX is a valuable option to have as an alternative.
I was using Windows Subsystem for Android and one thing that I was like "why DeX doesn't have this?" when I discovered if you combine ALT/SHIFT/CTRL with the mouse wheel it does different axes, and that would be so useful in some games and apps that are made with touch input in mind. And there are so many little lacks of effort through the usabillity that I can't seem this being a actual Premium piece of OS. It should be called _DeX Beta_ since it's so underbaked.
One thing to note on new Dex. You mentioned you can't drag a window up to the top and have it go full screen, but I saw another video where they mentioned you can resize the top of the window up to the top of the screen and get it to go full screen.
Samsung should have made the new DeX the standard tablet mode without referring to it as DeX. The new DeX is simply not DeX and this is the reason for missing all additional settings available in Classic DeX. The only reason I can imagine for not having made it the default tablet mode could be restrictions imposed by Google.
I really wish Dex would allow you to open up two instanses of the same app. i.e. two calculators open at the same time. that was something I missed a lot when I was using Dex frequently.
lock the app in dex, and let your mouse run without borders, ie slide off the side of the screen. Its buggy enough you might getcgya two calcs lol. I have 6 browser windows open right now, but they tend to vanish into the either on me.
Actually just looking now on Reddit. There are several work around a for this. The easiest would be to use an app that lets you install more than 1 copy of an app. One called app cloner apparently. Or Samsung work spaces let's you do this.
I still do not understand why would they "fix" refresh rate so that it doesnt go past 60hz on dex. They have literally proved that it was possible for a few months before they took it away.
They should just call it productivity mode or something because it looks like it simply enables you to better work with many things at once not necessarily like a desktop.
I see the potential in New Dex, but like iPadOS Stage Manager, it feels disconnected from the DeX interface. Maybe if the new Dex and the classic Dex features could be combined, it would make a better operating system.
So it is more OneUI Desktop mode. And for me, that makes perfect sense, if all you dock your tablet with a keyboard, and isn't looking to use it more like a separate computer experience. So they basically just called it the wrong thing. And with that, possibly suggesting that they might drop the previous DEX. This might be because statistics suggest that there isn't enough people looking for the DEX specific features for it to be worth the effort. And at this point, the biggest issue that DEX users might have with this OneUI Desktop mode is that it doesn't support multiple screens in any meaningful way. You might still lose some features, but OneUI Desktop mode, makes a lot of sense as a complementary experience when docking.
I like this middle option of having the productivity and tavlet feel because I have the windows experience with my laptop and want the tablet for portable productivity and entertainment. I like that it is seemless to switch and I that we can still switch between the two options, but i am new to the samsung ecosystem and haven't used Dex too much, so this new one feels better and great combination of windows/tablet.
what I don't like with classic dex is that you can't use two finger trackpad gesture to move window or resize it like on one ui. this new dex is can and it's like a dream to me (still waiting thought to arive at tab s8 wifi)
thank you for this insightful content! I was very happy to see there is a new DeX. I was hoping it would get closer to substitute a laptop. As the video progressed further, I hoped more and more it would not come to the S23U and other devices.. It looks like if one would like to substitute a laptop, he/she would still need to run an Ubuntu on the phone and open it from the DeX screen.. Thanks again!
I can see this as a good substitute for the tablet UX. Maybe over time they could add all the features missing from trditional Dex, like external monitor; and then it could be the only UI on their tablets, with no need to switch between tablet mode and dex mode. Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like this is what they are trying to do.
Why did Samsung think that incorporating some features of DeX into One UI would mean compromising on the features of DeX would be a good idea? It should rather be the opposite where they should maintain a significant difference. Smartwatch, Smartphone, Tablet, Desktop, TV. These are the standard form factors and as we should not try to merge Smartwatch and TV UIs, we should also not try to merge Tablet and Desktop UIs.
The Simpsons is home-air not homer? Regarding home airtags. The DeX Samsung with Roku or something else with Bitcoin with airtags could be a type of schizophrenia technology making LFO radioactivity because of anything-speakers modifying them. Like, making a fake satellite program and faking WiFi and faking tons of recordings on devices or CDs. It could be a mental health trap when people are in a situation where it's turned up over time. Like, a low operator feedback build with long release with infinite sustain. Regarding how it, when gated or noise cancelled, would seemingly never be able to be turned off and while using be undetectable. As an LFO resonance it could make the technology groups using computers and phones have an LFO blowing through the devices, including speakers (like, without Bluetooth the devices are running the LFO resonance without being classified as 'on' or with the program). Like, the DeX could be a cute if it is used for legal work and for technology mental health good sciences but in essence it seems dangerous. Airtags and whether or not they would be able to reprogram them. Same with tap-payment cards and so forth... Like, it operates without an email nor with Bluetooth. Pi-board with it could be a conflict for home insurance. The DeX when it is like saying that people who were previous owners (/still current owners) could be active like a technology bomb (Metaphor for technology explosive like profiles. A fulcrum)... The DeX concept could have been different but maybe it's now a decision engine using mathematical reasoning (Elon Musk is Samsung secret agent? Germans and Koreans made a large union of allies and it's being exposed?)... Potentially the context of using DeX for stadiums and crowd control could be a network mapping of apps software for airtags insurance like a schizophrenic audio engineering radio technology for spatial relations. But, potentially it's like "when does the insurance example turning down the use and having social strategy for conflict resolution prior to engagement by peace accords and navigating the division for proper functioning", considering how it could schedule money and tickets... The profile of DeX could be like a satellite program with Xbox live Kinect (secret about Microsoft and USA trying to get cheaper technology with less in sales? Which may be an organization for extortion like blaming genocidal technology uses on others). Regarding why the simplest technologies seem to be the roots of social psychology communication barriers without emotional support, but rather a continuous unrivaled issues. For example, if it was used with DOL for claiming people as prisoners and requiring them to show up like it's a type of ankle monitorer technology, but the message is not accepted nor received directly, it would be a repeating disturbance. Despite potentially being like a prank requiring DOL to commit with DHS for conflict resolution; but, instead continues using it for stating that requesting repetitively is somehow the right answer. Then again, exampling social disability (more person now than ever before) could be the reasoning, like, everything is already over 150 years old with every conflict resolution in action for insurance like every product is pitch perfect but douchebags can still example fictional unresolved dispute conflicts.
Everyone is using a lot of words in the comments section, but essentially it doesn't matter how forward thinking or innovative the new DeX is. If it doesn't allow you to extend your screen on an external monitor, it is unusable. Once they've fixed this issue, then you can finally start comparing both versions.
That's so much worse. Appears to me not just a downgrade, but maybe a hidden attempt to slowly kill DeX in favor of a tablet mode a little more versatile. That's not DeX. They killed the usage of a external monitor in favor of... mirroring? That's desktop? I used the platform since 2019 every day for work and personal use. I'm glad that I switched in 2023 to Motorola's Ready For. They're doing a much better job in desktop mode. The new wireless Moto Connect is great and so stable. Deserve a video!
the dex is why i went with the tab s9 over the iPad. Samsung and android Is always innovating awesome features that IOS just never seems to advance in despite always having that monetary advantage. Cant see myself leaving Samsung anytime soon, they have really lead the market over everyone else.
For that purpose it can add a lot of value, I think they can optimise it to make it easier to switch to classic DeX and also not call it DeX lol but as a standalone UI on a tablet screen it does make sense
Some bits of the New DEX are better, but others... not so much. But being given the option to change between 1.0 and 2.0 DEX I think is amazing that Samsung gave us that option. They could've just changed it forever and left it out. I'm sure 2.0 will get improvements throughout the year with more feedback.
the taskbar is the best thing they added to the folds really handy i use it all the time only thing i wish was they allow u to add more apps on it but u can with goodlock
I think the reason New DeX looks like OneUI, is because it's its replacement. It makes more sense to have a single environment with context-based interface configurations, than to have independent environments stitched together. Samsung's development resources are fragmented between DeX and OneUI, so once they finish the transition to just DeX, new features will start developing more quickly with the bigger team.
Although I've been a dedicated Samsung user since the Galaxy S era and I'm genuinely excited about the potential of Samsung Dex, I can't help but have reservations. Samsung's track record of discontinuing promising products and features, such as Samsung VR, 360 Cameras, Samsung Health features, Gear watches and various other products that raises concerns about the longevity of Dex. As much as I'd love to fully embrace the Samsung ecosystem, I find myself hesitating to invest heavily in Dex accessories. Can someone offer reassurance that Dex is a worthwhile investment, despite Samsung's past tendencies? Thanks and great review by the way!
As a side note, AR glasses like the XReal are a good USB-C "monitor" solution to use with Dex. Add a BT keyoard/mouse and you have yourself a very portable computer.
Well, if they change DEX too much I still have my Note 8 and Note 10 as backups. Love DEX been using it since the Note 8 and for over a year it was my only desktop pc. I wish they would bring back VR, the reason I kept my Note 8.
At least DeX on both the tablet and external monitor, and the ability to move apps between them. I think this is coming because in the meantime you can leave DeX and most Apps just continue to run without a restart. SO Samsung is working on it.
I am just glad that classic DeX is still there because I bought this tablet specefically for the ability to bounce between "tablet" and "fake laptop" so I'm glad that I have both options so it's cool but at least I have both of the options
The new DeX is just a tablet mode with pinned taskbar and all apps opened in multiwindow mode, it's not desktop version of android. I'm so sorry but I would say it's a failure for Samsung this time. I've tried to love the new Samsung DeX so many times and try to do my work with it but still Ican't feel the freedom of the Classic Samsung DeX so it keeps me back to the Classic DeX. If it's possible, please Samsung, just focus on improving the Classic DeX to the best. 😊
Some of the apps are still not optimized in the New Dex. Most irritating is WhatsApp. My Message typing window is cut at the buttom, regardless of window sizes.
I've tried both, and I actually prefer the new Dex. 1) New Dex enables you to have multiple slides of homescreen, just like a tablet does. I can separate different slide for different usage, thus making my work easier and quicker. The classic dex is a dekstop basically, so it only has 1 screen. Both have apps shortcuts, but in new dex I can put different categories of apps in different slides (eg: 1st slide for work, 2nd slide for entertainment, etc). It is very helpful to me. 2) Widgets. I haven't find a way to put widgets (or something similar) into classic dex homescreen. Not to mention that I need multiple widgets of the same app opened at all times (calendar to be precise). 3) More about widgets. I can't seem to have notes widgets in classic dex. Does anyone know how to do this? I am able to have notes opened at all times in my laptop, but I haven't found a way to do so in classic dex. Now, in new dex, I can put as many notes widgets as I want, noting that I have multiple slides of homescreen as I mentioned earlier. Also, not to mention that I don't think I can fit all my notes in classic dex screen. 4) Due to excessive usage, I sometimes got bored with pc/laptop ui. Tablet ui is refreshing. That's why I prefer new dex which boosts my productivity like how I use my pc, but with the ui of a tablet. I will try to work more with classic dex, if only the widgets options become available. Or perhaps someone knows the solution for my questions? :D
So it's DEX that is messing up the ability of connecting my S24 Ultra to usb c to hdmi without power? I noticed a reddit thread about this, all of my devices that support usb c video don't need power but my $2200 phone does and it's extremely annoying.
This sounds like new Dex has some reasonable changes, but someone decided to ship it when it actually only half finished. Only mirroring the tablet screen on external monitors? Seriously?
I think one thing not being considered ius the new Dex uses a lot less energy and you can measure that in battery life. The old Dex would use so much power that you would kill a battery while working on it in a day (maybe 4-5 hours on screeen). The new Dex uses so much less that you can make it through an all day confrence without noticing (maybe 7 or 8 hours).
@techwithbenefits my S24 doesnt allow my touchscreen monitor in DeX? Spoke to 3 Samsung reps and no one can explain what happened or why its not working.... Heartbreaking, because turning your phone into a tablet was amazing...
It doesn't work for me either.. I have the s24 ultra also and my tv is a LG C1 And it will not work.. On my phone, it finds my tv And when I hit connect, it just doesn't connect for some reason.. I've read that it won't work for anyone with the new galaxy. The very first Samsung phone I have. And then when I try to hook it up, it doesn't work that it's just hilarious. I've read that people are buying in the chords. Also, and those wont-work either.
Big tech companies are "simplifying/streamlining" things (read: less options and customization, who cares what the user wants, this is what you get now). Probably to save money, or who knows. Look at 'New Outlook' vs Classic. Whatever their reasons... they will keep doing it as long as the business case is there.
i had the S9 ultra, but it just was not tablet enough for me. but Dex i really enjoyed. months later i find a discounted S9. flip on Dex and i am not happy what they did with it.
Man. I'm worried that they will totally remove the old Dex. The main reason I plan to buy tab s9 is because of monitor extend functionality to do my works
Well i'm glad I found this, I won't be getting a Samsung Tablet anymore 😄 Just upgraded to a Z Flip 5 and wanted a Tablet for basic media consumption & as a main desktop replacement to be docked at a desk or used as a laptop when needed, this new DeX looks like it's taken the desktop feel of the experience away completely, what a shame.
@@techwithbenefits I worry that the older / classic version will eventually be phased out overtime assuming the adoption on the 'new' DeX is received well by enough people. Would rather not invest in an ecosystem that may or may not be there in the future 🥲
What really needs to occur is us to have full access and ue to be able change to 4k with out third-party and with any dongle or Dock as we now call it. With a simple dock as I have I can plug in a USB C Hub and if I wanted to insert 5 1 terabyte SSD. I have a powerfully adapter that will allow for such a thing. So, I am here viewing in 4k using the s-23 ULTRA, I agree it would be nice to see this to be ported to the phones, however the screens are still a bit small. You would need something that has a larger area. And the software knows that. As for the docks, I think in the future we will see TVS that will have every thing that the docks have including an internal SSD instalation kit, or maybe 2. So the new Docking station, will have a 4k monitor, access your roku TV stuff and have a place where you can store your data. It would need to have it where you could adopt a multi integration so that you have no phone flopping all over the place, and no stupid Poket. Think of the TV having like what Nintendo system has for their docks for fitting the switch into, only... Much cleaner.. The bezzle of the TV would need a way to have it where the camera can be used or just plug in a USB camera. We would be inventing a new computer build of sorts. With USB 4 type C, we would have the abllitity to integrate Ram, and a higher GPU with its own ram. think of it as the ultimate shrinkage. Next we could then OC the system. As it stands right now...games are changing as well on the plat form, they are coming out with some great stuff, and the gaming companies will have to start to adjust for Samsung docking. The S24 Ultra, is a micro computer, it is not just a phone. And that is where we are are heading, we're no longer the realm of the thing called a "Smart Phone". Because we are able to connect various devices and expand the the system, the docking stations have Ports. So in essence were expanding the devices capabilities. If one can expand ports, then the phone is the main board, the main board then connects to ports. The ports then connects to devices like keyboards, SSD drives thumb Drivers, weather station devices and a great deal more, the faster the ports the more one can do. So let's see what takes place in the next 4 years. I highly doubt our devices will be like anything we have today. And if Microsoft keeps screwing up, Apple and Samsung will take the lead with Apple OS as well and after major lawsuits against Google, Android OS will also start challanging windows as well. I mean a 14 inch ultra? That's a c computer. Straight up..
the new Dex is just OneUI with a mouse and keyboard. Which is great, but I wish Samsung communicated the use case a bit better. Cause it is not really a Dex Dex. It is an optimised OneUI
I haven’t been a Dex user, but the old versus new looks like Samsung moved away from emulating some Windows behaviors with the screen bottom menu to now more like MacOS behavior with the bottom dock. Very sensible in how it functions and I’m agnostic to Windows vs MacOS as I use both regularly and have for many years. I’m leaning heavily toward a Samsung S tablet due to Dex and using it as a tablet in bed or sitting around, and more as a PC with Dex and connected to a monitor on a desk. My heaviest use is photo editing and I think Lightroom and Photoshop mobile will do what I need. Saves me buying a separate desktop PC potentially. More research on my part before having confidence for a single machine to do it all, but I live on an iPad Air 5th gen as my primary driver and an older iMac for desk use. Time to ditch the iMac as it’s only security updates supported now and buying one machine instead of two will be great. My other replacement is an older Amazon Fire HD 10 that is excruciatingly slow. Getting a desktop computer FREE (via Dex) is a huge benefit.
i think samsung did this to see how the market react if they have a laptop with android based system. and if so I think they plan to move the tab series into laptop series.
alot of keyboard shortcuts are missing or defunct in dex. i hope they improve it. one example of a defunct keyboard shortcut is control f. i use control f to rapidly snap the cursor box to any spot on a page that i want with only keyboard this is very helpful for me to copy paste from webpages onto a google doc. i can rapidly get alot done with keyboard only. but samsung dex will not allow me to be this productive on it, i am alot more clunky. it's not because of internet speed, it's because of lacking or defunct keyboard shortcuts. i have a samsung s21 phone with a portable monitor by asus.
It's a shame it isn't more customisable or a mixture of old and new looks and changeable at its default settings. It looks incredible that said it has to only be on the new ranges of Samsung Galaxy tablets and possibly phones. I wonder with some slightly old Samsung tablets/phones which use DeX will these upgrades come to older tablets and phones which may get some upgrades as Samsung usually does update? There are apps from Samsung that essentially expand the use of DeX like Good Lock and its hidden features I am sure you know what I mean and there are numerous options with Samsung apps that expand its uses and maybe on Google Apps Store as well. It is a little interesting but what about if you have a different tablet from another company and you wanted to have something similar to DeX or DeX itself it is a shame there are no alternative forms of DeX from Samsung available for alternative tablets though it only available on a tablet likely Samsung named.
Both new Dex and Classic Dex are useful. The Classic is better w/ an external monitor. The new Dex works great when regularly switching between a keyboard use and tablet use. They should really call the Classic Dex "Dex" then the new Dex something like "Windowed mode"...
I'm still using classic Dex. I use Dex with a full size keyboad, mouse, and monitor. When I try this with new Dex, I lose my sound. So for me, it's old Dex for now.
Classic DEX still the best. New Dex does not really bring that Desktop style working. If New Dex only mirrors when you connect to a TV/Monitor, then Classic Dex is still the best as it extends your desktop when you plugin to a TV/Monitor. Classic Dex is what makes me keep going back to Samsung flagship phones
As long as they keep Classic DeX around I don't mind them adding in other options.
I think the New DeX IS gonna be the normal UI
Kinda a step backwards it seems....
@@oc3144 they didnt, Just press for a long time the DeX Button
Righto@@-GLaDOS-
just glad they at least gave us the option to still use the old UI. Switched it back as soon as I realized it was different.
How did you manage that?
same
How to do that?
@@moonchild4338go to setting-> dex-> classic
@@vblicgo to setting-> dex-> classic
The new Dex is awful. It's basically just a different tablet or touchscreen setup. The POINT of Dex was that it mimics a PC interface. The new one is nothing like that.
How can we paste screenshot (cmd+shift+S) in Dex
Yeah, I don't like it at all. Especially now that it's the default option, it's going to dissuade people from using the actual good version of it. Which will give Samsung an excuse to completely stop supporting it in your devices which will probably happen someday
@@michaelcorcoran8768The old DeX is still the only option in phones.
Yeah, I'm sticking with classic DeX.
I'm so glad I watched this video, I didn't know you could go back to the classic dex, such a relief to be honest😅
I wish Samsung would let you choose to force some apps to always open in split view or windowed mode when you're not in dex. That would be a killer feature, apps like password managers or auth managers could use that.
Or simply making the new DeX the standard tablet mode.
You can set that up in Taskbar and have app pairs so that they open in split screen view already!
I wish Samsung added Linux VM with window integration with DeX and added Wine as well.
Youd have to make a custom mode, in "the construct" that i use for recording,, i just set up a few if/whens, as well as integrating a bluetooth comms app that played nice with modes. I dont have the name here, my apologies. Modifying gui features in sec apps might not be worth the trouble though, with captive portals getting called and wutnot.
check this th-cam.com/video/LSwD9Rq5zHM/w-d-xo.html
The only video I needed on this subject, smashed it again mate!
Thank you good sir. The only video I'll make on it...maybe lol
Thank you sir. A true Dex user review. Just watched another TH-camr review it and it turned my stomach. I use mine as a semi desktop replacement and the new features messed with my remote connection app while in full screen mode.
Claasic dex should stay as it is. But new dex could a stock environment for big tablets. It helps a lot with unoptimized app.
Yes I agree to an extent, it just shouldn't be called DeX lol
@@techwithbenefits should be called TeX lol
Unpopular opinion: I love the new Samsung Dex! Actually, I only use my tablet with the new Dex UI. For me, it is the perfect combination of a tablet and desktop environment. I hope they keep improving it.
Classic DeX for me, all the way. I don't really mind the other changes so much, but not being able to hit Super + Left or Super + Right to snap windows is unacceptable to me. I use DeX mode to get work done like I'm using a traditional computer; window management and using the keyboard to quickly complete tasks is kind of the point... I'm glad they continue to work on DeX, because I find it very powerful, but this new version of DeX seems to remove essential features more than improves and iterates upon past implementations.
New dex feels like it was thought out to be used with a touchscreen first, competing with stage mode from iPad, that’s why its not on smartphones, while old dex was kept to bring the desktop like interface. Samsung’s got lots to improve in this new dex, but it brings lots of new possibilities.
Exactly this is what i also thoughts
I'm selling my iPad and ordered a refurbished S8 Ultra, and one of the reasons was that stage manager was atrocious - it really couldn't mimic a laptop, it was just a tablet with a keyboard.
So the idea of aiming to copy Stage Manager seems a really bad idea.
I actually like this new one, because the apps that recently opened are stay in the dock as recent. While dex is trying so hard to work like computer, the apps itself are literally mobile apps that shouldn’t be so “easy to close”. And the close button on top of each apps should just minimize it in the same sense as the home or back button in normal phones and tablets. And good for them for ditching all of the back buttons from everywhere
@@sparky6757 it was never meant to mimic a laptop though. Personally I have stage manager always on, I never turn it off. It’s just a better way to manage windows rather than the classic tablet way to do it. The good thing about stage manager is that it is very touch friendly, and if the new dex can provide a very touch friendly way of managing windows that is good, really good. As long as you have to option to swap between old and new.
@oh-noe Samsung's standard way to handle floating windows works better for me than Stage Manager ever did on account of the fact I can resize and move them freely rather than having arbitrary limits, and I can do traditional splits at the same time.
If you have a good time with Stage Manager that's great, but the default One UI solution works better for me and DeX is a valuable option to have as an alternative.
I was using Windows Subsystem for Android and one thing that I was like "why DeX doesn't have this?" when I discovered if you combine ALT/SHIFT/CTRL with the mouse wheel it does different axes, and that would be so useful in some games and apps that are made with touch input in mind. And there are so many little lacks of effort through the usabillity that I can't seem this being a actual Premium piece of OS. It should be called _DeX Beta_ since it's so underbaked.
One thing to note on new Dex. You mentioned you can't drag a window up to the top and have it go full screen, but I saw another video where they mentioned you can resize the top of the window up to the top of the screen and get it to go full screen.
Yeah its a beta feature you can turn on by searching settings for advanced features } Labs. It works incredibly well!
Samsung should have made the new DeX the standard tablet mode without referring to it as DeX. The new DeX is simply not DeX and this is the reason for missing all additional settings available in Classic DeX. The only reason I can imagine for not having made it the default tablet mode could be restrictions imposed by Google.
Yea, that's what I was thinking. It's Dex designed for a tablet and not useful for kb/m only
Have a "dex for tablets" and a dex for HDMI
I agree! It enhances the tablet view and usage but it definitely isn't DeX lol.
I really wish Dex would allow you to open up two instanses of the same app. i.e. two calculators open at the same time. that was something I missed a lot when I was using Dex frequently.
lock the app in dex, and let your mouse run without borders, ie slide off the side of the screen. Its buggy enough you might getcgya two calcs lol. I have 6 browser windows open right now, but they tend to vanish into the either on me.
@@PivotF00t Dude this is some mcgiver shit! If I use enough used twine and chewing gum, I can make a separate calculator app XD
Hmm as a non elegant solution you could download another version of the app like a 3rd party calculator
Actually just looking now on Reddit. There are several work around a for this. The easiest would be to use an app that lets you install more than 1 copy of an app. One called app cloner apparently. Or Samsung work spaces let's you do this.
Huge miss to not include this on the Fold 5. The Fold is screaming for DeX (in any form) to be available directly on the inner screen.
I still do not understand why would they "fix" refresh rate so that it doesnt go past 60hz on dex. They have literally proved that it was possible for a few months before they took it away.
@@AppleReviews where can you find which DP alt-mode version the s23u is using?
I tried both and i prefer new DEX.
They should just call it productivity mode or something because it looks like it simply enables you to better work with many things at once not necessarily like a desktop.
Thank you for the very useful information about dex I was lost why things are not working and you're explained everything great work.
I see the potential in New Dex, but like iPadOS Stage Manager, it feels disconnected from the DeX interface. Maybe if the new Dex and the classic Dex features could be combined, it would make a better operating system.
I'm moving back to Samsung. Let's goooo. Not tablet. Hopefully s24 ultra stays with classic Dex.
It definitely stays with classic dex! They would be committing a criminal act if they replaced classic dex with this on their phones 😅
So it is more OneUI Desktop mode. And for me, that makes perfect sense, if all you dock your tablet with a keyboard, and isn't looking to use it more like a separate computer experience. So they basically just called it the wrong thing. And with that, possibly suggesting that they might drop the previous DEX. This might be because statistics suggest that there isn't enough people looking for the DEX specific features for it to be worth the effort. And at this point, the biggest issue that DEX users might have with this OneUI Desktop mode is that it doesn't support multiple screens in any meaningful way. You might still lose some features, but OneUI Desktop mode, makes a lot of sense as a complementary experience when docking.
I like this middle option of having the productivity and tavlet feel because I have the windows experience with my laptop and want the tablet for portable productivity and entertainment. I like that it is seemless to switch and I that we can still switch between the two options, but i am new to the samsung ecosystem and haven't used Dex too much, so this new one feels better and great combination of windows/tablet.
what I don't like with classic dex is that you can't use two finger trackpad gesture to move window or resize it like on one ui. this new dex is can and it's like a dream to me (still waiting thought to arive at tab s8 wifi)
We Koreans are pissed off too, Protesting is amazing to the new dex! What kind of idiots are their new leader??! this is insane.
I don't know what they were thinking classic dex is obvious better experience
Glad they still gives you the option to choose classic dex
thank you for this insightful content! I was very happy to see there is a new DeX. I was hoping it would get closer to substitute a laptop.
As the video progressed further, I hoped more and more it would not come to the S23U and other devices..
It looks like if one would like to substitute a laptop, he/she would still need to run an Ubuntu on the phone and open it from the DeX screen..
Thanks again!
I did not know that you could switch back to classic dex! Thnx god, very usefull tip here!
I can see this as a good substitute for the tablet UX. Maybe over time they could add all the features missing from trditional Dex, like external monitor; and then it could be the only UI on their tablets, with no need to switch between tablet mode and dex mode. Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like this is what they are trying to do.
Why did Samsung think that incorporating some features of DeX into One UI would mean compromising on the features of DeX would be a good idea? It should rather be the opposite where they should maintain a significant difference.
Smartwatch, Smartphone, Tablet, Desktop, TV. These are the standard form factors and as we should not try to merge Smartwatch and TV UIs, we should also not try to merge Tablet and Desktop UIs.
The Simpsons is home-air not homer? Regarding home airtags. The DeX Samsung with Roku or something else with Bitcoin with airtags could be a type of schizophrenia technology making LFO radioactivity because of anything-speakers modifying them. Like, making a fake satellite program and faking WiFi and faking tons of recordings on devices or CDs. It could be a mental health trap when people are in a situation where it's turned up over time. Like, a low operator feedback build with long release with infinite sustain. Regarding how it, when gated or noise cancelled, would seemingly never be able to be turned off and while using be undetectable. As an LFO resonance it could make the technology groups using computers and phones have an LFO blowing through the devices, including speakers (like, without Bluetooth the devices are running the LFO resonance without being classified as 'on' or with the program). Like, the DeX could be a cute if it is used for legal work and for technology mental health good sciences but in essence it seems dangerous.
Airtags and whether or not they would be able to reprogram them. Same with tap-payment cards and so forth...
Like, it operates without an email nor with Bluetooth. Pi-board with it could be a conflict for home insurance.
The DeX when it is like saying that people who were previous owners (/still current owners) could be active like a technology bomb (Metaphor for technology explosive like profiles. A fulcrum)...
The DeX concept could have been different but maybe it's now a decision engine using mathematical reasoning (Elon Musk is Samsung secret agent? Germans and Koreans made a large union of allies and it's being exposed?)... Potentially the context of using DeX for stadiums and crowd control could be a network mapping of apps software for airtags insurance like a schizophrenic audio engineering radio technology for spatial relations. But, potentially it's like "when does the insurance example turning down the use and having social strategy for conflict resolution prior to engagement by peace accords and navigating the division for proper functioning", considering how it could schedule money and tickets...
The profile of DeX could be like a satellite program with Xbox live Kinect (secret about Microsoft and USA trying to get cheaper technology with less in sales? Which may be an organization for extortion like blaming genocidal technology uses on others). Regarding why the simplest technologies seem to be the roots of social psychology communication barriers without emotional support, but rather a continuous unrivaled issues.
For example, if it was used with DOL for claiming people as prisoners and requiring them to show up like it's a type of ankle monitorer technology, but the message is not accepted nor received directly, it would be a repeating disturbance. Despite potentially being like a prank requiring DOL to commit with DHS for conflict resolution; but, instead continues using it for stating that requesting repetitively is somehow the right answer.
Then again, exampling social disability (more person now than ever before) could be the reasoning, like, everything is already over 150 years old with every conflict resolution in action for insurance like every product is pitch perfect but douchebags can still example fictional unresolved dispute conflicts.
Man, just when I was thinking about pulling the trigger and jumping into the Dex world. Thanks for the heads up. I hope things change...
The Classic DeX is definitely still there, this just gets added in
Go to Settings -> Dex -> Classic.
yeah I was so confused when I launched dex and almost nothing changed. thought it broke
Everyone is using a lot of words in the comments section, but essentially it doesn't matter how forward thinking or innovative the new DeX is. If it doesn't allow you to extend your screen on an external monitor, it is unusable. Once they've fixed this issue, then you can finally start comparing both versions.
DEX REALLY NEEDED LINUX PROGRAMS
Classic Dex is Better🎉
Thats why i was shocked when i was at samsung and turned on dex and this happened i was like huh what nothing happened 😅 this explains everything
Yeah haha that could be a problem in retail stores for customers expecting classic DeX and getting this version lol
That's so much worse. Appears to me not just a downgrade, but maybe a hidden attempt to slowly kill DeX in favor of a tablet mode a little more versatile. That's not DeX. They killed the usage of a external monitor in favor of... mirroring? That's desktop?
I used the platform since 2019 every day for work and personal use. I'm glad that I switched in 2023 to Motorola's Ready For. They're doing a much better job in desktop mode. The new wireless Moto Connect is great and so stable. Deserve a video!
the dex is why i went with the tab s9 over the iPad. Samsung and android Is always innovating awesome
features that IOS just never seems to advance in despite always having that monetary advantage. Cant see myself
leaving Samsung anytime soon, they have really lead the market over everyone else.
I really love the new dex. I don't even use my tablet in normal mode no more.
For that purpose it can add a lot of value, I think they can optimise it to make it easier to switch to classic DeX and also not call it DeX lol but as a standalone UI on a tablet screen it does make sense
Some bits of the New DEX are better, but others... not so much. But being given the option to change between 1.0 and 2.0 DEX I think is amazing that Samsung gave us that option. They could've just changed it forever and left it out. I'm sure 2.0 will get improvements throughout the year with more feedback.
the taskbar is the best thing they added to the folds really handy i use it all the time only thing i wish was they allow u to add more apps on it but u can with goodlock
I think the reason New DeX looks like OneUI, is because it's its replacement.
It makes more sense to have a single environment with context-based interface configurations, than to have independent environments stitched together.
Samsung's development resources are fragmented between DeX and OneUI, so once they finish the transition to just DeX, new features will start developing more quickly with the bigger team.
Would've been freaking awesome if Windows phones had some sort of desktop mode.
I wish they made a Linux version of Dex, as it was in a first place...
Although I've been a dedicated Samsung user since the Galaxy S era and I'm genuinely excited about the potential of Samsung Dex, I can't help but have reservations. Samsung's track record of discontinuing promising products and features, such as Samsung VR, 360 Cameras, Samsung Health features, Gear watches and various other products that raises concerns about the longevity of Dex. As much as I'd love to fully embrace the Samsung ecosystem, I find myself hesitating to invest heavily in Dex accessories. Can someone offer reassurance that Dex is a worthwhile investment, despite Samsung's past tendencies? Thanks and great review by the way!
As a side note, AR glasses like the XReal are a good USB-C "monitor" solution to use with Dex. Add a BT keyoard/mouse and you have yourself a very portable computer.
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Well, if they change DEX too much I still have my Note 8 and Note 10 as backups. Love DEX been using it since the Note 8 and for over a year it was my only desktop pc. I wish they would bring back VR, the reason I kept my Note 8.
The good thing is this hasn't impacted DeX on the phone and classic DeX is still on the tablets.
When i updated my yab s9+ and saw the new dex i immediately looked for ways to get the classic one
New DeX is better if you don’t have a mouse. If you have a mouse, classic is better.
seems like this new dex is more like a touch mode with mouse, rather than desktop mode
I am watching this from a S32 FE in dex mode, typing from my PC in theory... it's fun.
As an manga artist I love this dex mode
Love dex but I want multi monitor support.
At least DeX on both the tablet and external monitor, and the ability to move apps between them. I think this is coming because in the meantime you can leave DeX and most Apps just continue to run without a restart. SO Samsung is working on it.
Yes absolutely. Hopefully with more powerful processors coming they can push the graphical power to support it
I am just glad that classic DeX is still there because I bought this tablet specefically for the ability to bounce between "tablet" and "fake laptop" so I'm glad that I have both options so it's cool but at least I have both of the options
The new DeX is just a tablet mode with pinned taskbar and all apps opened in multiwindow mode, it's not desktop version of android. I'm so sorry but I would say it's a failure for Samsung this time. I've tried to love the new Samsung DeX so many times and try to do my work with it but still Ican't feel the freedom of the Classic Samsung DeX so it keeps me back to the Classic DeX. If it's possible, please Samsung, just focus on improving the Classic DeX to the best. 😊
Yeah that's exactly what it is. Just a refined TabletUI. Calling it DeX is kind of a slight on Dex itself lol
Some of the apps are still not optimized in the New Dex. Most irritating is WhatsApp. My Message typing window is cut at the buttom, regardless of window sizes.
The only thing really holding it back is the fact that it's not a desktop browser. That would make it an easy choice to ditch the laptop.
Man as someone who has been using dex for a long time I hope they do not get rid of classic dex
In resume: they ruined Dex
With the new update, can it still support multiple user profiles?
I've tried both, and I actually prefer the new Dex. 1) New Dex enables you to have multiple slides of homescreen, just like a tablet does. I can separate different slide for different usage, thus making my work easier and quicker. The classic dex is a dekstop basically, so it only has 1 screen. Both have apps shortcuts, but in new dex I can put different categories of apps in different slides (eg: 1st slide for work, 2nd slide for entertainment, etc). It is very helpful to me. 2) Widgets. I haven't find a way to put widgets (or something similar) into classic dex homescreen. Not to mention that I need multiple widgets of the same app opened at all times (calendar to be precise). 3) More about widgets. I can't seem to have notes widgets in classic dex. Does anyone know how to do this? I am able to have notes opened at all times in my laptop, but I haven't found a way to do so in classic dex. Now, in new dex, I can put as many notes widgets as I want, noting that I have multiple slides of homescreen as I mentioned earlier. Also, not to mention that I don't think I can fit all my notes in classic dex screen. 4) Due to excessive usage, I sometimes got bored with pc/laptop ui. Tablet ui is refreshing. That's why I prefer new dex which boosts my productivity like how I use my pc, but with the ui of a tablet. I will try to work more with classic dex, if only the widgets options become available. Or perhaps someone knows the solution for my questions? :D
I still do remember how you could install linux through Dex, Dex was the best on Android 9
i try connect to laptop with dex also not detected, while my old phone note10+ can connected using type c or wireless. so yeah this downgrade
Yooo legend well done 🎉
I like the classic DEX better !!!!!
So it's DEX that is messing up the ability of connecting my S24 Ultra to usb c to hdmi without power? I noticed a reddit thread about this, all of my devices that support usb c video don't need power but my $2200 phone does and it's extremely annoying.
This sounds like new Dex has some reasonable changes, but someone decided to ship it when it actually only half finished. Only mirroring the tablet screen on external monitors? Seriously?
I think one thing not being considered ius the new Dex uses a lot less energy and you can measure that in battery life. The old Dex would use so much power that you would kill a battery while working on it in a day (maybe 4-5 hours on screeen). The new Dex uses so much less that you can make it through an all day confrence without noticing (maybe 7 or 8 hours).
If they gave an option for classic dex on z fold 5 it would be a game changer for flex mode
Basically new DEX is bad and useless. GJ Samsung... The only thing that saves them is that you can go back to Classic DEX, It's soo good !!!
It's not bad, just odd and doesn't add a whole lot lol
@techwithbenefits my S24 doesnt allow my touchscreen monitor in DeX? Spoke to 3 Samsung reps and no one can explain what happened or why its not working.... Heartbreaking, because turning your phone into a tablet was amazing...
It doesn't work for me either.. I have the s24 ultra also and my tv is a LG C1 And it will not work.. On my phone, it finds my tv And when I hit connect, it just doesn't connect for some reason.. I've read that it won't work for anyone with the new galaxy. The very first Samsung phone I have. And then when I try to hook it up, it doesn't work that it's just hilarious. I've read that people are buying in the chords. Also, and those wont-work either.
Big tech companies are "simplifying/streamlining" things (read: less options and customization, who cares what the user wants, this is what you get now). Probably to save money, or who knows. Look at 'New Outlook' vs Classic. Whatever their reasons... they will keep doing it as long as the business case is there.
Do you think Google may have a large part to do with this, and New Dex is really more of a samsung/google collaboration?
why i didnt get new dex on my s7 tablet after updating for one ui 6
You can go to samsung dex on settings to see if the new dex already activated
i had the S9 ultra, but it just was not tablet enough for me. but Dex i really enjoyed. months later i find a discounted S9. flip on Dex and i am not happy what they did with it.
Man. I'm worried that they will totally remove the old Dex. The main reason I plan to buy tab s9 is because of monitor extend functionality to do my works
Well i'm glad I found this, I won't be getting a Samsung Tablet anymore 😄 Just upgraded to a Z Flip 5 and wanted a Tablet for basic media consumption & as a main desktop replacement to be docked at a desk or used as a laptop when needed, this new DeX looks like it's taken the desktop feel of the experience away completely, what a shame.
The classic original DeX is absolutely still there, this is just another option
@@techwithbenefits I worry that the older / classic version will eventually be phased out overtime assuming the adoption on the 'new' DeX is received well by enough people. Would rather not invest in an ecosystem that may or may not be there in the future 🥲
So basically Dex for Touch. Nice
What really needs to occur is us to have full access and ue to be able change to 4k with out third-party and with any dongle or Dock as we now call it.
With a simple dock as I have I can plug in a USB C Hub and if I wanted to insert 5 1 terabyte SSD. I have a powerfully adapter that will allow for such a thing.
So, I am here viewing in 4k using the s-23 ULTRA, I agree it would be nice to see this to be ported to the phones, however the screens are still a bit small.
You would need something that has a larger area. And the software knows that.
As for the docks, I think in the future we will see TVS that will have every thing that the docks have including an internal SSD instalation kit, or maybe 2.
So the new Docking station, will have a 4k monitor, access your roku TV stuff and have a place where you can store your data. It would need to have it where you could adopt a multi integration so that you have no phone flopping all over the place, and no stupid Poket. Think of the TV having like what Nintendo system has for their docks for fitting the switch into, only... Much cleaner..
The bezzle of the TV would need a way to have it where the camera can be used or just plug in a USB camera.
We would be inventing a new computer build of sorts. With USB 4 type C, we would have the abllitity to integrate Ram, and a higher GPU with its own ram.
think of it as the ultimate shrinkage. Next we could then OC the system. As it stands right now...games are changing as well on the plat form, they are coming out with some great stuff, and the gaming companies will have to start to adjust for Samsung docking.
The S24 Ultra, is a micro computer, it is not just a phone. And that is where we are are heading, we're no longer the realm of the thing called a "Smart Phone". Because we are able to connect various devices and expand the the system, the docking stations have Ports. So in essence were expanding the devices capabilities. If one can expand ports, then the phone is the main board, the main board then connects to ports. The ports then connects to devices like keyboards, SSD drives thumb Drivers, weather station devices and a great deal more, the faster the ports the more one can do.
So let's see what takes place in the next 4 years.
I highly doubt our devices will be like anything we have today.
And if Microsoft keeps screwing up, Apple and Samsung will take the lead with Apple OS as well and after major lawsuits against Google, Android OS will also start challanging windows as well. I mean a 14 inch ultra? That's a c computer. Straight up..
Samsung needs to put the new dex on their other tables like Samsung S7 please I need this 🙏🏾 😫😫😫
the new Dex is just OneUI with a mouse and keyboard. Which is great, but I wish Samsung communicated the use case a bit better. Cause it is not really a Dex Dex. It is an optimised OneUI
I haven’t been a Dex user, but the old versus new looks like Samsung moved away from emulating some Windows behaviors with the screen bottom menu to now more like MacOS behavior with the bottom dock. Very sensible in how it functions and I’m agnostic to Windows vs MacOS as I use both regularly and have for many years. I’m leaning heavily toward a Samsung S tablet due to Dex and using it as a tablet in bed or sitting around, and more as a PC with Dex and connected to a monitor on a desk. My heaviest use is photo editing and I think Lightroom and Photoshop mobile will do what I need. Saves me buying a separate desktop PC potentially. More research on my part before having confidence for a single machine to do it all, but I live on an iPad Air 5th gen as my primary driver and an older iMac for desk use. Time to ditch the iMac as it’s only security updates supported now and buying one machine instead of two will be great. My other replacement is an older Amazon Fire HD 10 that is excruciatingly slow. Getting a desktop computer FREE (via Dex) is a huge benefit.
i think samsung did this to see how the market react if they have a laptop with android based system. and if so I think they plan to move the tab series into laptop series.
alot of keyboard shortcuts are missing or defunct in dex. i hope they improve it. one example of a defunct keyboard shortcut is control f. i use control f to rapidly snap the cursor box to any spot on a page that i want with only keyboard this is very helpful for me to copy paste from webpages onto a google doc. i can rapidly get alot done with keyboard only. but samsung dex will not allow me to be this productive on it, i am alot more clunky. it's not because of internet speed, it's because of lacking or defunct keyboard shortcuts.
i have a samsung s21 phone with a portable monitor by asus.
It's a shame it isn't more customisable or a mixture of old and new looks and changeable at its default settings. It looks incredible that said it has to only be on the new ranges of Samsung Galaxy tablets and possibly phones. I wonder with some slightly old Samsung tablets/phones which use DeX will these upgrades come to older tablets and phones which may get some upgrades as Samsung usually does update?
There are apps from Samsung that essentially expand the use of DeX like Good Lock and its hidden features I am sure you know what I mean and there are numerous options with Samsung apps that expand its uses and maybe on Google Apps Store as well.
It is a little interesting but what about if you have a different tablet from another company and you wanted to have something similar to DeX or DeX itself it is a shame there are no alternative forms of DeX from Samsung available for alternative tablets though it only available on a tablet likely Samsung named.
Both new Dex and Classic Dex are useful. The Classic is better w/ an external monitor. The new Dex works great when regularly switching between a keyboard use and tablet use. They should really call the Classic Dex "Dex" then the new Dex something like "Windowed mode"...
The new Dex seems to be a modification on android's built in multi window features instead of a custom environment like classic Dex
I'm a huge Dex fan/user. This is a major step backwards
I think the new dex is good because its more consistent. they still need to refine it for sure like the external monitor thing.
i'm new with Dex. When i first time use classic Dex, i'm like, "wooowwww". but after update, i'm like, "i'm in dex or not?".
Not being able to use an external monitor in a non mirrored mode is the deal killer for me.
Definitely weird. They built something new and effectively tell us not to use it. 😂
I'm still using classic Dex. I use Dex with a full size keyboad, mouse, and monitor. When I try this with new Dex, I lose my sound. So for me, it's old Dex for now.
Hello and Welcome to the channel ❤❤
Taking away the desktop interface and experience is not the right move! That is what makes the Samsung tablet superior.
classic dex it is. I'm on my galaxy S10e DEXtop.
Great video! Keep it up 💯!!!
Thank you!
Would be good if you could use dex on both screens and pull back and forward between monitor and tablet