You’re so cute…especially when you make little mistakes like “ok I’m talking too much about flight costs.” The big X for “do not do,” is hilarious. Do you have a “blooper reel.”
This has changed. Now (2024), you can link WeChat pay (and maybe Alipay ?) to foreign credit cards. Or so, I am told. I haven't personally verified. What I don't know is: - If interest starts accruing immediately on the transaction (like it does if you withdraw cash at an ATM using a credit card) or - Does somehow Visa/Master card take a percentage fee as they do in the West. Upate: A quick google search says that: "Yes, you can use WeChat Pay without linking a Chinese bank account, simply by adding credit card details. But there are some restrictions you should know about. WeChat Pay only accepts foreign credit cards, not debit cards. And you’ll only be able to use WeChat Pay in stores, not for sending money to friends and family." I suspect that means that you can use it in a supermarket (or any place that they scan your QR code) but not for example in a taxi or a street vendor (where you scan their QR code).
I was in China for two months in 1988, and I would love to go back. Unfortunate, it's quite hard to get a Visa as a solo traveler or back-packer, if you prefer that term.
@@JoMoon Actually, I'm planning to go to Taiwan 2023. The problem I had when I was thinking of going to China 2018 was that I wanted to stay for 6 months, witch was too long. Besides, they wanted me to present which hotel I should reside in, and what would be my next destination and where did i intend to stay there, and again and again six months in advance to present with my application for Visa. Since that would not be possible (I never plan so long in advance when I'm travelling) so I just dropped the idea. This was not the case when I visited China 1988, just bought a one way ticket with the transibirian railway and a Visa for two months. While on location, we (me and my girlfrien of the time) was free to travel around without the need of presenting any travelplans or hotel reservations.
Like you again, I haven’t been back to Australia, my homeland, for as long as you haven’t been back to China. This is also the longest time for me not to go back, and I’m waiting it out. That was good information you gave about the flight prices between the two countries. I’ve been in China for a long time, almost 10 years, and I had to learn some of the advice that you gave in this video the hard way. I especially liked what you said about do not start eating when the first dish is served. Many other foreigners I’ve worked with in China have been too eager to get to the first dish first when they go out together or with Chinese staff. They need to see your video!
Finally someone understand what I said about the first dish thing haha. I hope you can visit Australia very soon, hopefully next year. Actually flights to HK is much cheaper if it is useful for you:)
But I was also warned recently to get a flight eventually that doesn’t stop twice in mainland China going to Australia or back. You may end up in quarantine! I’ve heard of Chinese doing up to a month’s quarantine coming back from Australia!
A friend of mine was recently 10 days in quarantine, transiting in Beijing! He did 4 days HK before that, after leaving the US. It was at least 14 days total.
Maybe it's not a thing to do AA for more formal occassions, but among friends, close people, etc (especially among younger people), it's actually fine to do AA.
Hi, thank you for sharing your experience of Chinese culture. One of my Chinese friends here in the U.K. drinks alcohol during the day, even when out in the park. He is studying here. Some of his female friends also drink alcohol during the day. Is this common in China? Or do you think they drink to cope with the stress of study?
Thank You for your help in understanding some of the difficulties in a new relationship. But I’m still a little confused. A lady from China is coming to the USA hoping that we will get married. Whenever she arrives at the airport and I greet her and her 2 children, how do I approach her? I’m a hugger and a kiss on the cheek.
The problem with the chinese way in America is if your friend is a lush the will order surf and turf and expect you to pay. That's why people pay their own bill.
I've been to China 4 times, most recently in 2019, a few months before COVID-19 appeared. My son has lived in Shanghai for 8 years, is there now. Regarding using WeChat and Alipay, yes it's true everyone uses their phone and no one uses cash. However you still need to have a Chinese bank account to link to WeChat or Alipay. So far as I know you cannot link a non-Chinese bank account to these applications, and even if you could I'm not sure I'd want to. So the next time I visit China, I will plan to use good old-fashioned cash and a credit card for my purchases.
'So far as I know you cannot link a non-Chinese bank account to these applications' Apparently this has changed. Now (2024), you can link WeChat pay (and maybe Alipay ?) to foreign credit cards. Or so, I am told. I haven't verified. What I don't know is: - If interest starts accruing immediately on the transaction (like it does if you withdraw cash at an ATM using a credit card) or - Does somehow Visa/Master card take a percentage fee as they do in the West. Upate: A quick google search says that: "Yes, you can use WeChat Pay without linking a Chinese bank account, simply by adding credit card details. But there are some restrictions you should know about. WeChat Pay only accepts foreign credit cards, not debit cards. And you’ll only be able to use WeChat Pay in stores, not for sending money to friends and family." I suspect that means that you can use it in a supermarket (or any place that they scan your QR code) but not for example in a taxi or a street vendor (where you scan their QR code).
@@kshred3043 Personally, if I am only staying a week or several weeks in China I would not go through the hassle and potential risk of linking a foreign bank account or credit card to WeChat/AliPay. Cash still works fine, everyone I encountered in December was happy to accept it.
I didnt know there was no hugging or kissing in Chinese culture. In Turkish culture, even men hug and kiss each other on the cheek, and parents kiss their sons and daughter even when the kids are 40.
Funny thing is that, my Australian born Chinese friend told me that he doesn’t hug or kiss his parents either. I guess some manners are rooted in a way.
@@JoMoon I have some friends from Taiwan, they are always kissing and saying loving words to their parents, and their parents also to their children. They were born and lived all their lives in Taiwan. I think my Taiwanese friends are unusual people in their country.
Jo Moon I live in Canada. Splitting the bill is determined by the individuals here. There are people who will only do it the way you do in our country as well. It generally depends on the type of relationship you have at the table. For example, if you are out with a new partner. Sometimes out of courtesy they will allow the person who wants to treat them to pay it for them. It also may be because the other individual is a student for example and they have more money being made in their life. Realizing the student is struggling to get through university. They just basically want to be kind to them without any expectations of returning the favor. Because you also know down the road the situation may be reversed as well. We call it paying it back. It doesn't always mean giving it to the person you were treated by either. It may mean that you just want to be nice or kind to others in life. The body connection (Kissing or hugging) generally is just an outward expression of love for the other individual in western culture. Let them know we care about them, and that you are approachable and very welcoming in life. Because we know sometimes some people feel shy and we want them to feel very welcome and comfortable around us. I also understand that it is common for your partner or family member to offer to feed you food while sitting at the table. Is that true? Because in our culture some people may look a that as babying a person. Meaning you are feeding them like a baby and they don't know how to eat. You are also right I think a lot of people will generally sit and observe a new culture to see how they behave, so they do not cross cultural lines. You can also always ask the individual. Thank you for the tips of your culture.
just been to china and wechat dose not have WeChat pay for westerners. alipay needs a hong kong bank account or china bank account to pay with it. was quite upset as even difficult to use cash. but still love china😊
I think that your information is out of date. A quick google search says that: "Yes, you can use WeChat Pay without linking a Chinese bank account, simply by adding credit card details. But there are some restrictions you should know about. WeChat Pay only accepts foreign credit cards, not debit cards. And you’ll only be able to use WeChat Pay in stores, not for sending money to friends and family." I suspect that means that you can use it in a supermarket (or any place that they scan your QR code) but not for example in a taxi or a street vendor (where you scan their QR code).
paying with your phone only is not always true. Even if the granny has the app is not the point. What she is saying is mostly true for 1st & 2nd tier city or areas also depending on the province you are in. There are a lot of 3rd & 4th tier cities a few 2nd tier cities that still require cash. Especially when you have to check in with the local police to do the paper work before you can even check into your hotel. Its amazing how many police stations outside of the big cities charge you cash fees when you do the paper work and do not have WeChat or AliPay. Even when you don't have to go directly to the security bureau when you go to the hotel at the reception you have to give them your Passport with RMB CASH inside it along with a credit card, so they can help you complete the process. Chinese people have to present their ID card, if a Chinese person presents his passport the hotel will not except it and they must provide their ID card which is more important than your Chinese Passport.
I learned not to tip. After my haircut I tried to tip. They would not accept. I can't wait to go back to Chongqing. Beautiful place great food and people are very welcoming
I once went for a meal in Guilling,,about 10 people around the table..After the meal an old man ordered and poured three large rice wines,,a young boy drank his glass in one go,,then the old man poured it down his neckk....ME no way was not getting drunk,,so said no thanks..I was told I acted foolish ,,but really I did not care ,, I was a stranger in that place and no way was I acting like that at my age of 50
I would prefer cash in china because I am from Pakistan. I don't know chinese, so it would be difficult to set up a we chat account, and also, i don't think my debit card will work in china too. So cash is fine. Otherwise is if i go to china, i will look for a friend who knows urdu or at least english so he/she could be my translator. Guess i have to first go to australia, pick up jo moon so she could accompany me on my china tour 😊. I really want to see china. The 5000 years old civilization.
We in Holland don't split bills I am dutch but I have never ever split a bil I don't understand man pay for the lady lady have to be wherry creative if she wants to pay Stupid to call it going dutch
Waiting till everyone has their food before you start eating is probably good manners everywhere on earth, just about. Not saying that I haven't seen it happen or anything .....
Hey, french citizen here. I never liked to kiss cheeks me neither, despite i had to do it because of tradition, especially in the South. Holly Covid put a term to this awful tradition.
I also suspect that part of that cost has something to do with the possibility of China and the US possibly going to war over Taiwaiin So, if you and your girlfriends go out to lunch who pays if there is no splitting the bill? No disrespect intended JoJo but I can't believe they were actually breaking down peoples doors on their houses and apartments in China to put them into forced quarantine during Covid...that just seemed a bit extreme to me.
I was told by a good friend who lived in China, that Chinese women love to bring many friends with them on a date, and as the man have to pay for all of them at restaurants. Nah, no thanks, I'm OK paying, but for the 2 of us. I not going to date her friends.
I have a Chinese girlfriend and she is the most wonderful and caring woman in the world i would never let a woman pay but she won't let me spend money lol
Informative video. Yet it seems to me China is a "cold, unfriendly type people" . Yes those are customs in China, and you were born and raised there. So in a relationship meaning after marrying, it seems there would be NO or next to NO INTIMACY ie: hugging, kissing things that are to bring couples close. The reason I say this is I married an American female, and she was raised inj a home where there was no hugging, no kissing very little affection shown and it tremendously affected and hurt the relationship which ended in divorce for various other reasons. My opinion, my views... I do not know if I could deal with such a "cold natured" controlled place. My dream was always China yet more and more I learn I change my view. But thank you for the information. As I know for a fact you WILL NOT RESPOND as you never have. But take care hope things get better for you to return to "cold" China
Everyone need's a hug once in a while.
And A KISS!
You’re so cute…especially when you make little mistakes like “ok I’m talking too much about flight costs.” The big X for “do not do,” is hilarious. Do you have a “blooper reel.”
I'm happy your channel popped up. I'm learning so much about a culture I've always admire and I do plan on visiting
As far as I experienced WePay only works with Chinese bank accounts. Tourists (when they are welcome again) are still dependent on cash.
This has changed. Now (2024), you can link WeChat pay (and maybe Alipay ?) to foreign credit cards. Or so, I am told. I haven't personally verified. What I don't know is:
- If interest starts accruing immediately on the transaction (like it does if you withdraw cash at an ATM using a credit card) or
- Does somehow Visa/Master card take a percentage fee as they do in the West.
Upate: A quick google search says that:
"Yes, you can use WeChat Pay without linking a Chinese bank account, simply by adding credit card details. But there are some restrictions you should know about. WeChat Pay only accepts foreign credit cards, not debit cards. And you’ll only be able to use WeChat Pay in stores, not for sending money to friends and family."
I suspect that means that you can use it in a supermarket (or any place that they scan your QR code) but not for example in a taxi or a street vendor (where you scan their QR code).
I was in China for two months in 1988, and I would love to go back. Unfortunate, it's quite hard to get a Visa as a solo traveler or back-packer, if you prefer that term.
I believe it will be much easier for foreigners to visit China in 2023, as the policy changing gradually.
@@JoMoon Actually, I'm planning to go to Taiwan 2023. The problem I had when I was thinking of going to China 2018 was that I wanted to stay for 6 months, witch was too long. Besides, they wanted me to present which hotel I should reside in, and what would be my next destination and where did i intend to stay there, and again and again six months in advance to present with my application for Visa. Since that would not be possible (I never plan so long in advance when I'm travelling) so I just dropped the idea.
This was not the case when I visited China 1988, just bought a one way ticket with the transibirian railway and a Visa for two months. While on location, we (me and my girlfrien of the time) was free to travel around without the need of presenting any travelplans or hotel reservations.
I'm British and I've been waiting for 3 years to go to China too, see you there nice lady.
just subscribed to your channel. i really like your attitude, especially your comments about forgetting about politics.
Thank you Adrian!
These are definitely things that people who did not grow up in China would not know. Thank you!
Nice work Joey.
Like you again, I haven’t been back to Australia, my homeland, for as long as you haven’t been back to China. This is also the longest time for me not to go back, and I’m waiting it out. That was good information you gave about the flight prices between the two countries.
I’ve been in China for a long time, almost 10 years, and I had to learn some of the advice that you gave in this video the hard way. I especially liked what you said about do not start eating when the first dish is served. Many other foreigners I’ve worked with in China have been too eager to get to the first dish first when they go out together or with Chinese staff. They need to see your video!
Finally someone understand what I said about the first dish thing haha. I hope you can visit Australia very soon, hopefully next year. Actually flights to HK is much cheaper if it is useful for you:)
But I was also warned recently to get a flight eventually that doesn’t stop twice in mainland China going to Australia or back. You may end up in quarantine! I’ve heard of Chinese doing up to a month’s quarantine coming back from Australia!
Now fly to Australia via HK, no quarantine in HK. Australia to HK, 3-day hotel quarantine, then HK to mainland 7-day hotel and 3-day home quarantine.
@@JoMoon Good information!
A friend of mine was recently 10 days in quarantine, transiting in Beijing! He did 4 days HK before that, after leaving the US. It was at least 14 days total.
I love your accent!!
Maybe it's not a thing to do AA for more formal occassions, but among friends, close people, etc (especially among younger people), it's actually fine to do AA.
Knowledgeable video
Hi, thank you for sharing your experience of Chinese culture. One of my Chinese friends here in the U.K. drinks alcohol during the day, even when out in the park. He is studying here. Some of his female friends also drink alcohol during the day. Is this common in China? Or do you think they drink to cope with the stress of study?
Regarding the bill, in my experience Chinese often have one person pay the bill in full first and then split the bill later via WeChat.
It is not a good idea for a society to trade freedom for convenience with online payment. This encourages tightening surveillance.
Thank You for your help in understanding some of the difficulties in a new relationship. But I’m still a little confused. A lady from China is coming to the USA hoping that we will get married. Whenever she arrives at the airport and I greet her and her 2 children, how do I approach her? I’m a hugger and a kiss on the cheek.
If you guys are planning to get married, I think hugging and kissing is fine isn’t it
The problem with the chinese way in America is if your friend is a lush the will order surf and turf and expect you to pay. That's why people pay their own bill.
Hi, how are you? very cool video
I've been to China 4 times, most recently in 2019, a few months before COVID-19 appeared. My son has lived in Shanghai for 8 years, is there now. Regarding using WeChat and Alipay, yes it's true everyone uses their phone and no one uses cash. However you still need to have a Chinese bank account to link to WeChat or Alipay. So far as I know you cannot link a non-Chinese bank account to these applications, and even if you could I'm not sure I'd want to. So the next time I visit China, I will plan to use good old-fashioned cash and a credit card for my purchases.
'So far as I know you cannot link a non-Chinese bank account to these applications'
Apparently this has changed. Now (2024), you can link WeChat pay (and maybe Alipay ?) to foreign credit cards. Or so, I am told. I haven't verified. What I don't know is:
- If interest starts accruing immediately on the transaction (like it does if you withdraw cash at an ATM using a credit card) or
- Does somehow Visa/Master card take a percentage fee as they do in the West.
Upate: A quick google search says that:
"Yes, you can use WeChat Pay without linking a Chinese bank account, simply by adding credit card details. But there are some restrictions you should know about. WeChat Pay only accepts foreign credit cards, not debit cards. And you’ll only be able to use WeChat Pay in stores, not for sending money to friends and family."
I suspect that means that you can use it in a supermarket (or any place that they scan your QR code) but not for example in a taxi or a street vendor (where you scan their QR code).
@@kshred3043 Personally, if I am only staying a week or several weeks in China I would not go through the hassle and potential risk of linking a foreign bank account or credit card to WeChat/AliPay. Cash still works fine, everyone I encountered in December was happy to accept it.
I Would Love To HUG And KISS JO MOON And Tell Her How Much I ADORE, CHERISH, WORSHIP AND LOVE HER!!
I didnt know there was no hugging or kissing in Chinese culture. In Turkish culture, even men hug and kiss each other on the cheek, and parents kiss their sons and daughter even when the kids are 40.
Funny thing is that, my Australian born Chinese friend told me that he doesn’t hug or kiss his parents either. I guess some manners are rooted in a way.
@@JoMoon I have some friends from Taiwan, they are always kissing and saying loving words to their parents, and their parents also to their children. They were born and lived all their lives in Taiwan. I think my Taiwanese friends are unusual people in their country.
Jo Moon I live in Canada. Splitting the bill is determined by the individuals here. There are people who will only do it the way you do in our country as well. It generally depends on the type of relationship you have at the table. For example, if you are out with a new partner. Sometimes out of courtesy they will allow the person who wants to treat them to pay it for them. It also may be because the other individual is a student for example and they have more money being made in their life. Realizing the student is struggling to get through university. They just basically want to be kind to them without any expectations of returning the favor. Because you also know down the road the situation may be reversed as well. We call it paying it back. It doesn't always mean giving it to the person you were treated by either. It may mean that you just want to be nice or kind to others in life.
The body connection (Kissing or hugging) generally is just an outward expression of love for the other individual in western culture. Let them know we care about them, and that you are approachable and very welcoming in life. Because we know sometimes some people feel shy and we want them to feel very welcome and comfortable around us. I also understand that it is common for your partner or family member to offer to feed you food while sitting at the table. Is that true? Because in our culture some people may look a that as babying a person. Meaning you are feeding them like a baby and they don't know how to eat. You are also right I think a lot of people will generally sit and observe a new culture to see how they behave, so they do not cross cultural lines. You can also always ask the individual. Thank you for the tips of your culture.
I don’t do any of those things and I was raised in the west.
just been to china and wechat dose not have WeChat pay for westerners. alipay needs a hong kong bank account or china bank account to pay with it. was quite upset as even difficult to use cash. but still love china😊
I think that your information is out of date. A quick google search says that:
"Yes, you can use WeChat Pay without linking a Chinese bank account, simply by adding credit card details. But there are some restrictions you should know about. WeChat Pay only accepts foreign credit cards, not debit cards. And you’ll only be able to use WeChat Pay in stores, not for sending money to friends and family."
I suspect that means that you can use it in a supermarket (or any place that they scan your QR code) but not for example in a taxi or a street vendor (where you scan their QR code).
but fighting 10mins over who will pay sometimes gets too much.
Good and great ❤
paying with your phone only is not always true. Even if the granny has the app is not the point. What she is saying is mostly true for 1st & 2nd tier city or areas also depending on the province you are in. There are a lot of 3rd & 4th tier cities a few 2nd tier cities that still require cash. Especially when you have to check in with the local police to do the paper work before you can even check into your hotel. Its amazing how many police stations outside of the big cities charge you cash fees when you do the paper work and do not have WeChat or AliPay. Even when you don't have to go directly to the security bureau when you go to the hotel at the reception you have to give them your Passport with RMB CASH inside it along with a credit card, so they can help you complete the process. Chinese people have to present their ID card, if a Chinese person presents his passport the hotel will not except it and they must provide their ID card which is more important than your Chinese Passport.
not as expensive as from north America
what if she grabs and hugs you(lungs at you you can't push her away because then you will cause her to loose face) especially in front of other girls
I learned not to tip. After my haircut I tried to tip. They would not accept. I can't wait to go back to Chongqing. Beautiful place great food and people are very welcoming
I love Chongqing!!!
2024 is when I want to be living there. Then I can explore the rest of beautiful china.
Dear Moon xiao jie, I'm an old, old wolf. I have never owned a shouji.
I love ur country too 😂♥️
May I use chopsticks to shoot down a wayward spy balloon?
Lol I agree since is very likely those ballon’s are made it from tofu 😂
You can use the chopsticks to practice balancing of fake iPhones on a woodden stick.
I once went for a meal in Guilling,,about 10 people around the table..After the meal an old man ordered and poured three large rice wines,,a young boy drank his glass in one go,,then the old man poured it down his neckk....ME no way was not getting drunk,,so said no thanks..I was told I acted foolish ,,but really I did not care ,, I was a stranger in that place and no way was I acting like that at my age of 50
I would prefer cash in china because I am from Pakistan. I don't know chinese, so it would be difficult to set up a we chat account, and also, i don't think my debit card will work in china too. So cash is fine. Otherwise is if i go to china, i will look for a friend who knows urdu or at least english so he/she could be my translator. Guess i have to first go to australia, pick up jo moon so she could accompany me on my china tour 😊. I really want to see china. The 5000 years old civilization.
Abey tharki Paki is khatoon ko lekar China jaana hai tujhe? Tera kameenapan samajh rahaa hoon main. 😅😅😂😂
We in Holland don't split bills
I am dutch but I have never ever split a bil I don't understand man pay for the lady lady have to be wherry creative if she wants to pay
Stupid to call it going dutch
Waiting till everyone has their food before you start eating is probably good manners everywhere on earth, just about. Not saying that I haven't seen it happen or anything .....
Hey, french citizen here. I never liked to kiss cheeks me neither, despite i had to do it because of tradition, especially in the South. Holly Covid put a term to this awful tradition.
Thanks for sharing 😂
I also suspect that part of that cost has something to do with the possibility of China and the US possibly going to war over Taiwaiin So, if you and your girlfriends go out to lunch who pays if there is no splitting the bill? No disrespect intended JoJo but I can't believe they were actually breaking down peoples doors on their houses and apartments in China to put them into forced quarantine during Covid...that just seemed a bit extreme to me.
Fax
I was told by a good friend who lived in China, that Chinese women love to bring many friends with them on a date, and as the man have to pay for all of them at restaurants. Nah, no thanks, I'm OK paying, but for the 2 of us. I not going to date her friends.
I have a Chinese girlfriend and she is the most wonderful and caring woman in the world i would never let a woman pay but she won't let me spend money lol
手机不安全😒 + Don't forget to drink your hot water 😊
Informative video. Yet it seems to me China is a "cold, unfriendly type people" . Yes those are customs in China, and you were born and raised there. So in a relationship meaning after marrying, it seems there would be NO or next to NO INTIMACY ie: hugging, kissing things that are to bring couples close. The reason I say this is I married an American female, and she was raised inj a home where there was no hugging, no kissing very little affection shown and it tremendously affected and hurt the relationship which ended in divorce for various other reasons. My opinion, my views... I do not know if I could deal with such a "cold natured" controlled place. My dream was always China yet more and more I learn I change my view. But thank you for the information. As I know for a fact you WILL NOT RESPOND as you never have. But take care hope things get better for you to return to "cold" China