Well BRITISH Broad Casting has history of propaganda agenda against anyone not conforming to their indoctrination. People of Color, any faith which isn't Western Christianity r justified journalistic presucation....
Instead of reporting people's reactions to all this, BBC, why don't you actually do some REAL journalism and inform us WHAT exactly is being taught, HOW it's being taught, and what is the age group of the children in these lessons? This kind of haphazard reporting just provokes more reaction from people instead of informing them.
Well this is true, BBC were only concerned with painting the picture of homophobia, the bigger the beard the better. The activists pointed out for me as being a clue of who the information is targeted to. These cartoon illustrations that promote homosexuality, teenagers won't find that appealing but primary school children will.
Well I don't see the irony and don't want to give up. Is it ironic because one minority discriminated against is discriminating against another minority discriminated against?
Thats a pretty stupid reply. Teaching children about the world around them is what school is about. Its about reality and inclusion of children who's parents might be different from others. That is what they are teaching. When we say 'didn't see that coming' it has hit the left wing liberalism in the face because they have been blind to what was a long time coming with a 7th century regressive religion that is far from inclusive and liberal and quite the opposite.
Not sure what you mean, but yes true statement. You know if people said they identify as a zebra ok, don't discriminate against people who think they are zebras ok I get it fine, if you speak against people who think they are zebras and say they are wrong you are bigot and will be arrested mind control..
It does move when Muslims move to civilised countries. Most are OK with this teacking program and there are so few objecting agitators like Shakeel Asfar have to lie to and then bus in the most ignorant among them.
Not at all. Nobody ever claimed that an oppressed group can't at the same time be oppressors in their own right. Just gotta use your head a little bit.
@@andrewbova5887 Oh wait, you are religious, right. Then there is no point in continuing this. I hope you get your 72 virgins in the end or in whatever fairytails you believe in. Just don't disturb other people with that shit. But if the majority of your country thinks like that then just stay there :)
@Vageena Vinegar Are any other religions in 2019 beheading gays? Stoning women for adultery? Beating women? Chanting about death to gays, teaching young children these things? Inquiring minds want to know. Even in colonies that started America 400 years ago, the Christians were not killing gay people despite the teachings in the Bible. It's now 2019 and Islam is still killing gay people. Your ignorance is amazing. It's not 'liberal' it's compasion for fellow human beings without imposing your will on others and censoring freedom of speech. THAT is what 'liberals' have come to symbolize. /former democrat NEVER AGAIN!!!!
@Vageena Vinegar Agreed! Also its worth noting that it was colonialism and its anti-sodomy laws, imposed on the muslim and African worlds post invasion. Its interesting that places like Thailand, have no problem with LGBTQ, they also were never colonialised.
@@wordscontrolminds I agree that the West brought anti gay to many countries and that was based on the content of Christianity... But the content of Islam also has a lot to answer for....In respect to Thailand, their Buddhist beliefs are naturally tolerant but having a gay son or daughter is not welcome by most Thai parents.. Their "tolerance" is limited to the gay children of others... .
@@byteme9718 - since English is not your mother tongue, I suggest you check a dictionary for the meaning of 'niece'. As for copulating with your mother /sister / daughter /dogs /horses/pigs / men with men etc, then that is YOUR speciality which you want to force on the rest of us.
@@mikhan5191 I used that word because incest is not at all uncommon within Islam. I knew you wouldnt be able to resist resonding. Unlike you most of my life has been spent in Islamic countries and the reality is so different to what you want to believe. I had never seen any TS/TG in the UK until I moved overseas, the first I saw were all Muslim and in larger numbers than I have ever seen elsewhere. That has never changed and in fact TS/TG and gays have become even more common possibly because they no longer feel safe in the backward states that would punish them. I thought Muslim girls would be so devout but I've slept with more than I can remember but it would be between 40 and 50. I worked around horses and more than once witnessed their Muslim grooms quite obviously fucking them. Incest occurs usually because a wife wants to dissuade her husband from taking another wife. Instead the eldest daughter is "offered" for sex. In the countries I work in Muslims are the only race to take hard drugs like heroin and crystal meth and they also have a disproportionately high rate of HIV infection. Do not dare take the moral high ground and claim Islam and Muslims are somehow superior because they're not. Look at Islamic countries around the world and see how backward and corrupt they are. Look at what Muslims have provided to advance the modern world, nothing unless it happens to be cash for the sale of oil non Muslims found, extracted, transported and refined. Apart from that the Islamic world has achieved nothing apart from corner shops that break their own laws by selling alcohol.
Muhammad Rafiq Actually it was the other way around from 1400 years ago when Barbary pirates went on slave acquiring raids to European countries including England. That is what started the crusades in the first place, to drive them out, research Vlad the impaler, his impalling was to scare off future invasion...it worked too.
Cathy Woodell, Or much simpler, schools need to teach children facts and reality, not opinions that children should hold about those facts. Such as “some males feel like they are girls” and not “it’s morally right/wrong to accept if males when they believe they are girls”. SIMPLE. Or if you want to present the different view points, you can: “some people believe gender 100% is caused by you anatomy/chromosomes, while some people believe, no matter the person’s anatomy, someone can identify as whichever gender they please...” taking the neutral stance, allowing kids to discuss it with their peers and parents. Whether you agree with one side or the other of the debate concerning lgbt equality lessons doesn’t necessarily matter. What truly matters is if you believe the state and government should(or not) be indoctrinating children, and should parents have a say or not in a process of indoctrination. It is important to note there is a difference between exposure and indoctrination, full exposure let’s the kids decide for themselves and they’re not outrightly being manipulated.
Natural just means occurs in nature so yea it is natural. Teaching people that gay individuals and gay couples exist is not the same as anything being rammed down anyone’s throat. As for the Christian bakery, that’s not relevant. Liberalism for the win
We've, well or government has been trying to tell us this for years, if not decades, to make them feel comfortable in our country by using that same sentence, but now they don't like it? Ok, they should go back. I their country then, simple.
I think your comment should actully be reflective of the ever growing reality of the matter which is: these are the same folks that want criticism of their LGBT beliefs to be treated in the same category as racial hatred.
When I went to high school in Canada you had to get your parents to sign a consent for you to attend the sex education class. Why don't they institute the same in Britain.
For the same reason we don't need people to sign a consent form for science class. Education is education. If the curriculum examined human rights, should people be able to opt out because of some archaic belief system.
Lakhbir Singn: This teaching program will be compulsory in all UK schools next year precisely because ignorant, prejudiced bigots like those protesting can't be trusted to raise their chidren properly.
Just to clarify...i don't go into a vegetarian restaurant and demand steak so if u move into a culture you should respect the way they do things. We've been asked not to put pork products in kids pack up in case it offends.....if I go to said I I abode by there culture not expect it to change to fit in with me and finally I worked in abbottoirs so having seen private slaughters fully understand halal and kosha.
Don Robbie Aftv cutting a animals throat and seeing the sheer panic in its eyes while it’s trying its best to make a noise is sickening. I mistakenly thought we had strict animal cruelty laws in the UK. Also you can say all the prayers you want over it as they are just words, don’t think they make the poor animal feel better thou.
@@heathersoares186 The LBGTs have woe this battle. Media is already branding the protestors as homophobic. Reason - i think its because a lot of LGBT activists work in the media.
@@alexjames2510 Actually, Black women have the highest rates of HIV infection, please do some research. Also, you small minded bug of a person HIV is just a virus, its nothing to be ashamed of, gay, straight, bi, white, black, asian.... anyone can get it!!!!
@@alexjames2510 also Gay people have kids, and you're teaching OUR kids what a straight relation ship is!!!! and fyi it is okay, there's nothing wrong with it, its 100% natural and seen in thousands of animal species across the world
@@alexjames2510 I deeply support your right to pull your children out of such education. However, I think it is good and only right for schools to provide this education, so you might want to consider pulling them out of Britain as a whole.
Bro wtf do Muslims mean when they say there not homophobic WHEN THERE FREAKING HATING AND SHAMING THEM. I can’t believe this is the religion I was born to..
It became necessary due to some people being victimised which I guess you don't have problem with . Back to the good old days when you could be as racist or sexist as you wanted eh ?
@@Nico-qw1im The equality act also protects, pregnant women, disabled people, elderly people and race. Are you implying these people are all morally bankrupt? The equality act is there to protect everyones rights regardless of who they are. We are all human and should have the same protections. I dont know what makes you believe you should have more rights than everyone else, what makes you believe you are above others?
@Ranger Man so you don't want your child indoctrinated with equality, which I understand. But you'll indoctrinate them yourself, telling them they are going to hell if they are gay. What are you going to do if your child is actually gay? Disown them?
@Ranger Man I agree, I don't think children should be taught about same sex relationships in primary school. However, imagine your child grows up to be a right wing gay man. Where is he going to get his acceptance from? Because according to you, he will be scum who deserves to go to hell. You sound like the most hate filled Christian I've ever spoken to
This is exactly why religion shouldn't be a protected characteristic, in the same way that race, age, or disability are. Those other things you don't get to choose, religion you do have a choice. And sadly many religious people just use it as a get out of jail free card to say they hate gay or trans people.
@@XMan-qu5kl oh trust me there are Trojan horses. Otherwise why is there oragniation after organisation quietly plotting all this. It's been a tactic used to conquer many countries and been successful. Worried about their kids for what? For teaching no one is a outsider?
John Chappell There is such thing a Trojan horse by any community in the U.K. its all fake conspiracy spread by Russian trolls to cause chaos in our society the U.K. has most successful multi culture society in the world
At present Islam has to live alongside cultural values and practices at complete odds with its own theological values. It also has to abide by UK legal statutes including The Equality Act 2010. The act makes it illegal to discriminate against anyone with a protected characteristic. Such characteristics include LGBT identity and lifestyle expression . Fast forward 30 to 50 years. Muslims may by then constitute a larger percentage of the UK population. Under such circumstances , is it likely that the rights of the LGBT community will be under greater or lesser threat?
There have been gay and lesbian people since the dawn of time. It is not a disease or a sin or a sign of moral weakness. They deserve the right to live a lifestyle in tune with who they are and we should all respect and accept that in the same way they respect and accept those who are heterosexual.
@Jacob Jimenez You and your favourite scientists might believe you evolved from primordial slime friend but my ancestors most definately didnt spring from pond life.
@Jacob Jimenez You appear fixated with genitalia and bacterial lifeforms. The internet satisfies most needs, even bizzare ones, so I'm sure you can find a fellow bacterial enthusiast you can share your passions with. Have a good life
@I'm sorry About that! jimmy savile, yep spot on. The parliament paedo rings, totally unproven, no prosecutions and a serial liar naming all and sundry.
All the movies you watch and allow your children to watch are created by Paedowood. Has been running since the beginning of Hollywood and you people eat it up.
Chelsea Fan arabs muslims fought for the armenians but apparently fascists don’t care about history what about 1 million iraqi that you slaughtered and the five hundred thousand in syria and none of these invasions and occupation are legal and of course lets not forget Afghanistan why am I arguing with nazi you don’t even value life
@@kebabtank. Wtf are you talking about. There's at least 3 documentaries on TH-cam proving the parliamentary pedo rings. Tom Watson mp was the third mp who tried expose it. Two other mps were silenced with damning dossiers covered up by the pedo circles in hse 9f commons. Its worse than we think with links to royalty, media, BBC. Police, celebrities. All linked by freemasonry. So please do your research or be silent, as children are being abused and murdered daily by these psychopath scum bags.
so because they are Muslims you will go against them?you Christian's don't know how to stand for your faith,you claim you follow god but then end up following society instead and then when we msulims do it rather than standing with us you just start complaining
@junglemanlawyer1 There is a purgatory in Judaism called Sheol... a place for those who are neither righteous nor damned. In Christianity, Purgatory is more like a waiting line in the heaven's Judgement court... in a matter of speaking.
In my opinion those children should NOT be subjected to those "lessons". In my opinion children are the property of their parents, NOT THE STATE....regardless of any religious views!!
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@Don don so the child owes nothing to the mother that suffered months of pain and caring, money because your afraid that They will go aganist your degenerate values? Who are you to raise other peoples children?
@@callumsawyer177 at least, he or she knows one more language than you somehow, you some English people are monolingual and meanwhile mocking the rest of the world for their ability to speak a nonnative language, ( sorry if my English is not perfect, lol)
This video considers only the Muslim families opposing the program. Christian families also oppose the program, but their views are not portrayed here. Very skewed BBC
If the recent all- party definition of Islamophobia had been accepted by the government this BBC report would be seen as Islamophobia and thus against the law. What were the MPs thinking when they came up with this definition which has been accepted by the Labour Party, Liberal Party and Anna Soubry. Islam must be criticised if someone has a problem with it. I do feel they have the right to protest this No Outsider agenda however, but they should also understand that their beliefs can be criticised back without the threat of Islamophobia being made and a visit by the police.
So homophobia is OK but Islamophobia isn’t? What a load of rubbish Muslim homophobes need to get their act together or stop whinging about Islamophobia Two-way street
@@JNMLondon Anti Muslim bigotry isn't okay. Islamophobia often gets manipulated by far right Islamic groups to slur critics of the religion and/or religious practices. That's the problem with the word Islamophobia. Use 'anti Muslim bigotry' as a term instead. It narrows the focus to ensure you target the real bigots, and it can't be manipulated by malicious actors to prevent valid criticisms of problematic practices.
@@angusgow1887 That's why Muslims have their own made-up buzzword. Its sole purpose is to turn the perpetrators into victims, and the victims into keeping quiet.
When I see what's going on around the world, I'm more convinced that Our Lord Jesus is on His way and not that far. Than again, no one , not Him nor the angels in heaven know the day this will be. Only the Father knows. God gives men free will to choose their life style, but it must be in accordance with His laws. In the end He will asks each one, " Why didn't you follow my laws?." I agree that children should not be exposed to this topic of behavior at schools. If so it can create great confusion in them. I know man that were dressed with girls clothing when they were little and they turned out homosexual. Their mothers would dress them like that because they looked "cute." Children are like sponges. This is why we must be careful what we teach them. Sex education should be taught during middle school as they reach teen years. Parents should also talk to their teens on this topic. As for me, I'm concerned with all the unrest that's going on in the world. All we can do is pray to God for world peace and for His guidance and protection every day. Lets not just remember Him when it thunders.😃. Florida. USA
Axel smith Kids can learn about basic biology and how pregnancy occurs and how unprotected sex leads to STDs but they don’t need to learn how some perverted men like it up the arse
Well, like we say in Spanish: "cria cuervos y te sacarán los ojos" (raise ravens and they will pull your eyes out). You can't promote a culture of tolerance of Islamic radicalism and expect LGBT equality.
@@هدي-ه8ظ so your admitting you could be gay if someone persuaded you? You could personally be convinced to be attracted to another guy (or female if your a woman). If you think you could be persuaded fairly easily to have sex with someone of the same sex then your gay already. You don't need anyone to brainwash you.
As a parent I send my kid to school to learn math, science, and language. My expectation is that the educators are experts in their fields and are best equipped to educate my children in these areas. It was not always the domain of schools to teach on these subjects and I believe the parents are best equipped to instruct their children in the areas of relationships and sexuality. I am not Muslim but I believe every parent who is raising their children has the right to instruct their children on what form of relationships they believe are best for their children. That being said the schools have the right to inform the parents that any form of bullying by their child towards another raised with different values will not be tolerated.
Not only are you not Muslim you're not British. Your backward country is obsessed with some daft 2000 year old book full of hatred and lies so obviously your (baseless) opion is worthless here. This teaching program will be compulsory in all UK schools from next year and the reason is because religious nut jobs can't be trusted to teach their kids appropriately.
I call this ridiculous stop trying to protect Islam honestly if this religion never excist LGBT would have had free from the start more faster. We literally existed years before ur religion get that we where here first with peaceful life until ur islam came to existins.
@@mariscalli325 pfft bro let me tell u something am bi and I am from the LGBTQ we have existed decades and centerius before ur "Islam" ever came to existed we where accepted by all we where just not common but still accepted as humans beings so honestly stop talking bullshit and educate ur Islam is a cult by your pedophile for prophet who has hurt thousands and millions of people to join his cult raped woman and a god freaking child as his wife and ur telling me my sexuality Is something in human? But ur pedo loving prophet and warlord rapist / misygonist is fine? Damn .....
@@shrimpfriedizzy The same way I'm against my kids being brought up around homosexuality, you're against my kids being brought up around heterosexuality. You people claim to be liberal, but you don't care about people who have views that contrast to yours.
Men having sex with other men is wrong. However a fifty year old Arab warlord having sex with a nine year old girl is fine. So long as the angel he met in a cave says 'okay'
How is it homophobic lol. I am reaching out to you lmaoo please can you explain why children should be learning this when their time is limited and the amount of competition in the world, why exactly should this be what they're learning?
@2r3333 ADOS "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to DEATH; their blood is upon them." Leviticus 20:13
@2r3333 ADOS' no real black person supports trump' you racist twat..is candace owens black enough for you? What a ridiculous statement..are diamond and silk black enough for you? This aint about race, moron, its about sexual perverts and reigious fanatics fighting over who gets to indoctrinate children get outta here with yer racist twaddle....
As a Christian this makes me ashamed, that it had to be the Muslims that took up this Paramount issue, by spearheading this fight. shows the weakness and Ahab Spirit of the Christian church in today's day and age.
Religion is a choice. Being gay isn't, people need to understand. Simple. You cannot become gay or become straight if you aren't. 100% the homophobic views are bourne out of ignorance, I agree. When will ALL religiously conservative communities understand that their lack of teaching about tolerance (at the least) is leading to severely prejudiced views against LGBT people. And they claim not to be homophobes. LGBT people from within those religious communities receive very damaging conflicting messages leading them into a state of denial, being closeted and adverse mental health effects. If you're not going to teach about gay relationships, the least you can do is to teach about tolerance and not being abusive towards people who don't share the same views. LGBT people are being persecuted within religious communities for this reason you can see it in the video! It is incredibly hypocritical for anyone from the Muslim community to preach homophobic views whilst simultaneously claiming to be the victims of islamophobia.
Who is arguing any of that? People of faith don't say that having gay sexual urges is a sin, it's acting on it that is deemed sinful (at least in Islam). They believe that refraining from sin and repenting if necessary will get them a chance at paradise and fending off a trip to hell. You might call that ignorant but you saying that will not change anything and don't try to suggest that every person, religious or not, suffers adverse mental health effects for refraining from their desires, whatever desire that may be.
@@jameswhiteley6843 Unfortunately I wouldn't agree with this either as there is no way of gauging one's thoughts and opinions at the border. Someone can be religious one day and not the next or vice versa. Besides we pride ourselves as a liberal democratic society on our freedom of speech. We just have to agree to disagree on matters of opinion, what I cannot stand however is when someone impinges on the freedoms of another due to their freedom of religion. Religious people have the freedom to believe what they want, what they DO NOT have is the right to interfere in anyone else's private life, in this case LGBT people. They just need to understand that their views will be tolerated, just don't attack someone else for exercising their rights either.
@@zoom192 Muslim youth are more religious in the UK than their parents and grandparents. The Muslim demographic also has the highest fertility rates in the country and by 2050 they will represent almost 20% of the UK's population. There will be no liberal democracy when conservative Muslims reject Western values and would prefer to live under a theocratic system. Maybe it's best we don't import these people into our country and avoid the problems such as FGM, terrorism, child marriage, polygamy, honour killings and numerous other alien customs with them.
@@horrorgamer6687 People who protest too much normally have something to hide. Especially if they come from a repressed culture or religion. Science backs it up. What was that you were saying about dick suckers?
Letting a child explored their Gender Expression when they’re young (when Trans people more often then not have literally said that’s when they even knew they were different from other kids) is pale in comparison to teaching young, impressionable children that a magical, no proof In sight, sky daddy exists and will come talk to them and (creepily) watch over them 24/7 and who’d send them to Hell for the slightest smallest mistake they’d make is one of the most damaging thing to ever tell a Child.
@@Anonymous-gq4gq a "sky daddy" that forgives your slightest mistakes, and has laws that ain't black and white is much better than letting kids "express their gender". as the reply above mentioned 72 genders is unreasonable compared to a "sky daddy"
And this is the irony of our age. The Muslim community in Britain, elsewhere in Europe and the world, is fighting for equal rights, against discrimination, intolerance, islamophobia etc. Yet in the same breath, they turn around and readily advocate against other communities, in this case the LGBT community, preaching and fighting to deny their rights. So you are asking for the rights you want to deny others...The thing about human rights is that they are universal and don't belong to any community or minority in particular. Either all have them, or no one has them...there is no in-between. Something Muslims and others may also want to think about when pleading with the rest of the world for tolerance and understanding.
These ppl are only asking not to have "THEIR OWN" children exposed to something that is completley forbidden in THEIR culture religion n society. No one is against any body....just dont IMPOSE something on their offspring. Imposing something unwanted to one person....is not human rights
When western expats have their children studying in muslim countries....they are not forced to learn tk accept sharia values....its their parents choice.. So dont FORCE homosexuality acceptance on muslim or jewish or any religious kid.
And lets not forget, we are not speaking about female rights or respect of peoples freedoms or respect to race.....we are talking about something UN NATURAL...something which has been proven biologicaly to spread dangerous std's.. And something which breaks the whole divine family value. Yet homosexuals deserve every respect as everyone else,its their choice who they relate with..just keep it away from the underage kids.. Especially kids of other faiths n cultures.. when u force it, n punish parents who choose to skip those lessons...then WHERES THE FREEDOM OF CHOICE??
Have you ever heard of the freedom of education, and the freedom of family life, as codified in the UN treaty of human rights, which basically implies that the state should stay out of these kind of things? What business does the government have in imposing a moral view on sexuality that many parents do not buy into?
Don't be a hypocrite, the LGBT community sticking up for themselves is not being "intolerant" you're the ones who push your intolerance first forcing us to clap back at you.
All religions are doing this, and it's despicable everywhere. I don't know why muslims are getting extra hate for this when you see many christians and jews like this
@Henrik Burms I agree, homophobia in all religions should be equally challenged, but my point is there’s intolerance is all religions, one is not more pure than the others
Crippling Depression Women also do not bleed 24/7. They only bleed 3 days a month and most heterosexual do not have sex when a girl is bleeding, she usually offers oral sex when menstruating. I’ve never had anal because its disgusting and unnatural
@Crippling Depression I agree. Bible is full of immoral acts and the prophets in the bible are conducted as immoral and evil people. I am a muslim and i am clearly opposed to homosexuality. Also, do you agree to sex between mother and son or father and daughter or father and son, as long as there is consent ?
@Reckoning Don't waste my time with your athiestic shit. Prove to me why son having sex with his father is wrong. Don't go into these circular arguments. Incest is wrong because it is incestial, proce to me this statement. If a son is mature enough and the son and father both consent to the sex, why is it wrong. The problem with you guys is that you say people can do anything as long as their is consent, but when it comes to incest, you say no ? There is something called biology, it says hat no one is born homosexual. Many animals sometimes commit paedophilia, do you think we should allow that as well ? Since when are we following the examples of animals ?
Both Christians, Jews, and Muslims had gatherings against these lessons, if you saw footage you wouldve seen both muslims and christians holding signs together
@@byteme9718 Homosexuality is condemned in both the old testament and the new testament. The Koran also condemns it. Religious people hate gay people. Funny, people who work on the sabbath are supposed to be stoned to death but the bigots don't seem to care about that. Fortunately the entire modern medical and legal communities have concluded that there is nothing wrong or unhealthy about it. If religious people had it their way they'd trash all sex education (because they hate sex of any kind actually) and then they'll trash the science classes because that contradicts their ancient scrolls as well. We'll all go back to the dark ages where evidence, data, facts, and statistics are meaningless.
@@robertjsmith Don't you know that any questioning of the religion of peace, and its followers, is islamophobic nowadays? Similarly, any doubts about exposing young children to "alternative" lifestyles, or the myriad of gender identities is based purely on hatred and fear.......or so we've been told. Mind you, I'd feel safer leaving my kids with the latter group rather than the former....ask the good people of Rotherham.
@@robertjsmith Not sure you're getting the point about PC. Any criticism of any facet of Islam, or of forcing the agenda of LGBTQ, is labelled as Islamophobic or homophobic respectively. These groups insist on the labelling, not us.
@Vageena Vinegar of course they have a right to protest,reject,object and what responsible parent wouldn't if they did not agree with something enforced upon their children they disliked and refused to embrace,they are the parents WHO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THEIR CHILDREN
@Vageena Vinegar one of the books used is named,"the king and the king"tell me one king that is in or had a loving relationship with another king please ?
@Vageena Vinegar so you havn't got an answer,fine,and you think it is ok and within law for all fairy stories to be enforced upon children who's parents object,amazing,considering you probably attack every bit of fairy story that has a hint of something not acceptable to the SJW,double standards and hypocrisy spring to mind here
@Vageena Vinegar Not at all,you refuse to even acknowledge or consider the parents objections on this,your an authouritarian a labour voter no doubts guessing you hate true democacy, your happy and content for this enforcement of your fantasy good values fairy stories on kids ,without the parents consent !!!!
I agree with the protests. Religion and tradition is more important than some perverted movement. Grown men in full BDSM bodysuits bring parraded around during gay pride marches, its sick
No religions and traditions are sick and pointless. Its practically mental illness to believe something based on what? A book written by some primitive, desert dwelling humans who didnt have access to the knowledge or resources we have today? Yah brilliant, that makes a lot of sense dumb ass.
WHY DOO CHILDREN NEED LERN LGBT IN PRIMARY SCHOOL ITS SHAMEFUL THEY PUSHING A AGENDER. She reads people messages people a pissed off now lets see the messages from BBC, ITV, on Oldham, Rochdale, Rotherham, Telford, etc,
@@callumsawyer177 Thats your best debate spell better I was traveling the country instead of going school schools a trained to condition your children my spelling is terrible but my latin history and conscience is perfect
@@callumsawyer177 That's a bit low isn't it? How many other languages do You speak? Did you ever make an effort to speak something else than your native tongue? I don't mean "Hasta la vista, baby".....
@Phat Pigeon Don't see POC leaving the US to live in Africa or Mexico, plenty of people desperately trying to get into the US though... so you're talking shite. You should tell 'Drump' to build a wall or something to stop immigrants from entering the US, for their own protection.
Also can we just address the fact that "religious freedom" is never used for anything besides indoctrinating and abusing children or to circumvent hate speech laws?
@Alice Rabbit How don't you? The fact that you can protest outside schools and make comments on TH-cam giving your views without the police arresting you suggests that your freedom of speech is not being curtailed. Stop playing the victim when you aren't one.
Why do they have to indoctrinate children into sexual politics? It's not only Muslims that want to protect their children from age inappropriate topics and confusing ideology. Children should be children. Teach them to be nice, respectful and focus on teaching them to read, write, maths and developmentally appropriate life skills.
Oh lordy, was this filmed at the beginning of the 20th century in some third world country? How can you have such an old fashioned and narrow and excluding view in 2019 in the UK?
Because our leaders imported the third-world against the wishes of the people. As the Muslim population gets larger, so will intolerance to LGBT rights.
So homosexuality is the basis of civilization is it? Funny that one, every civilization in history was religious and forbade homosexuality. This is supposed to be a Christian country and Christianity forbids homosexuality as did this country up until 1967.
All you're doing is making an appeal of presentism. No one can be forced to support a homosexual lifestyle whether it's the 21th or 31th century. Do you have any other argument to support your views?
Excuse me, but these are views shared by many white Brits, except that they are too scared to air them for fear of being ostrasized by the prevailing zeitgeist and state-sponsored programme. As for this being "narrow", yeah whatever. Let me know when they ply your son with hormones and then fast-track him off for life-changing sexual reassignment surgery at 5 years of age merely because he liked to play with a few dolls. God save the queen!
@Mister Physics I always suspected that some of the "love" for the LGBT was due to their lower fertility rate and higher HIV/Aids-occurrence and mortality. At least you're blunt about it.
Muslims have always been conservative, the only reason why muslims stay and vote for the left is because of the Israel/Palestine disagreement with the right, and that the right is filled with racists.
@@husseinfoudah6182 you're actually a fool, kids are born gay or straight, you have crushes, you like the kids in your class, just because you're not thinking about sex doesn't mean your sexual identity isn't there!!
@E I hear that but I think what I'm a bit concerned about is, people calling those who are classed as heterosexual are being called homophobic because they don't agree to the teaching of LBGTQ being taught to their children. I actually think in reverse its a type of bullying towards straight people. Just because it is law, it doesn't have to be accepted by those who do not practice LGBTQ methods or way of doing things.
@E also we are out of the EU now so there are no Human rights in this country unless they have replaced it with something else that I'm not aware of. And its not only about what country or religion you come from, Its about individual culture and values. Plus England is a Christian state. The Queen family don't even entertain LGBTQ but the Queen accepts other people differences. And the family has enough tax payers money to send their children to private school that does dicuss LGBTQ. or am I wrong about what my perspective are on the topic?
Yet again divide created,but i happen to agree with Muslim on this topic.My reason being let children be children,they should not be taught this so young in schools.I am not anti gay infact not anti anyone individually but what is this all leading too confusing kids to transgender and they cannot have kids if that is done.,
Anyone that would support government, schools, special identity groups teaching your children about sex, gay or straight, is utterly insane. This is a parent's responsibility....LEAVE OUR CHILDREN ALONE.
@@Cserediak okay if you want a closer to even 10% tolerance get rid of isl@m lmao simple but you left itsts are too busy cancelling someone who's 32 and used the n word when they were 12
Okay, I’m no expert on this but this is just my opinion. When I was growing up in the 90’s, we weren’t educated on the LGBT community in school and as I recall people weren’t exactly very friendly towards the LGBT community. While I have no love for Modern Religion (as it can cause some people to hate, fight, discriminate or even kill each other over things that are non existent or no longer relevant), Religion should still be taught at school as it educates kids on how different beliefs, views and different cultures from around the world work. The LGBT community also shows how we all different and also equal. Kids need to understand that there is nothing wrong with being gay and some people are attracted to the same sex. So I say “yes” they should teach this at school. Wouldn’t the best method be just to sit down and discuss with the parents the best method to educate their kids?
The problem with that is obvious if you read a few posts here. Reigious bigots can't be trusted to do that because they have no understanding of morality.
That's the point, there is no sexual info being given to kids 😂😂😂 it's not even relationship advice, its simply awareness different family make-ups and tolerance of that!!
It is obviously religion vs secularism, tho at least secular societies offer freedom of speech, try holding a gay pride protest in Saudi Arabia or Iran...
Religion in itself is not brainwashing, and you should know this. You sound like an atheist parroting ignorant anti-theist nonsense rhetoric. By your logic you can't teach kids what's morally right or wrong because that would be brainwashing, they need to figure it out on their own.
@@bodspafc As if teaching them about a deity is necessary to brainwash children. How many kids have been brainwashed into being trans or gender fluid? Did they use God(s) to do that? No, they didn't. Things like *Rapid onset Gender Dysphoria* wasn't caused by telling kids about deities. The whole USSR was atheist and they indoctrinated people & kids into their secular atheist dogma to the point of brainwashing. Regardless, not all theist type religions teach you to blindly believe why something is right or wrong. Religions like Christianity explains why through examples & etc.. It's not just because God said so, and you'd know this if you even really talked to some Christians. They will discuss all the time why some thing are immoral, or the problems caused by said behaviors. There are many great Christian philosophers like John Locke (if I remember correctly). Many of which influenced western values we take granted today, that come from Christian beliefs.
Goblin Isac I agree completely about most of your points. But telling a young child to believe in a mythical being that watches over them and judges them and who they have to pray to is a form of brain washing in my eyes. I agree that religion can teach good morals....I never said it doesn’t. But telling kids to believe in something without them being mature enough to make their own decisions is brainwashing.
@@bodspafc Just because it is brainwashing in your eyes doesn't make it so. You are not an authority on what brainwashing is, nor are you an authority on right and wrong.
I'm not religious but I don't think these parents are completely wrong. Kids at that age should just be allowed to play with their friends and be introduced to basic skills like reading and writing. Of course, if these same parents are force feeding their kids their own moral values then they are hypocrites, but that doesn't mean that concerns about the curriculum are invalid.
Personally I don't see any harm in just telling kids about the existence of gay parents/relationship. We do live in a society where gay people are allow to hold hands and kiss in public. Parents preventing children from knowing them imply gay's whole existence are inappropriate, which isn't the case at all. Of course we should also teach child about different religious and culture as well to make it fair, which most schools are doing anyway.
@@matts5164 I don't disagree. My point was that certain things can be left to when kids are older. I don't know the age at which this is taught nor do I know the exact content or methodology of the curriculum, hence I don't feel able to just dismiss their concerns as just religious fanaticism.
Don't kids have enough to learn, reading writing sports, diet, mental health there's loads of useful things young kids can learn and take in that will help in latter life, knowing that a gay person likes to put his cock up another blokes arse is not going to be of much use
Schools should teach the basics regarding sex and how babies are made, they should teach not to bully or treat people badly because they are different from how the majority live their lives regarding sexuality, but other than that leave the rest for the parents to explain. Let children be children, they grown up too quick as it is.
@@matts5164 I don't know what the programme teaches. Is it possible for such a programme to teach something that is worthy of protest? I actually think the Muslim community here might be on to something. What if homosexuality or transgenderism is not determined at birth? What if it is malleable? In that case, the teaching might affect the children. We now have rapidly increasing numbers of people who believe that they are born as the wrong sex - and people who believe that about themselves are likely to be depressed as a result. Why do we have such a rise, and does a link with depression, etc, mean that such a rise is undesirable? So actually the right and wrong of this all hangs on two propositions: firstly, in order to bring kids up to be tolerant, is it necessary to give them the impression early on in life that every variety of existence/behaviour (which might be a target for intolerance) is very common and unremarkable? Secondly, is human sexuality (and I think in this case gender identity) at all malleable? If the answer to the second question is 'No', then any discrimination and/or marginalization is not only cruel and damaging, but it is also pointless and unnecessary. But if it is 'Yes', then it becomes a utilitarian debate about which course of action avoids the greater evil.
@@CBfrmcardiff "I don't know what the programme teaches." I did manage to find a link that shows what the no outsider is about and after going through with it the overall course is harmless. www.featherstoneprimaryschool.co.uk/_site/data/files/users/presentations/E5825A7F7DD58E2C6E9148A78492AD49.pdf "What if homosexuality or transgenderism is not determined at birth? There have been a lot of researches on this topic, where the scientists are trying to identify the people for having different sexual orientation and gender dysphoria. the current research is leaning towards Biological factors than parenting and child experiences. "We now have rapidly increasing numbers of people who believe that they are born as the wrong sex" I think that's more to do with people are now able to identify their gender dysphoria thanks to the internet and able to come out due to society being acceptance with the idea of transgender. "link with depression, etc, mean that such a rise is undesirable?" People with different sexual orientation and gender dysphoria are more likely to be in depression is mainly due to a feeling of isolation and Rejection. While today's society being gay or trans is far better than 50 years ago, they still face challenges. So it's not really being gay/trans directly leads to depression, it's being gay/trans could lead to more pressure/isolation/rejection which ultimately may lead to them having more chance of mental illness. Personally, I don't see issues with letting children know about gay/trans, we do live in a society where it is okay to be gay/trans. Letting them know will not turn them gay/trans, that's pretty ridiculous. Those parents are freaking out for no reason. They aren't the one missing out here, it's the children.
Sadly their not gonna do that expeally really religious parent their gonna gate keep their kids from these important topic expeally when their older making this kids to be hateful and confused
Oh dear😂use your brain please! Forcing what exactly! They are literally teaching about how other children might have two mums or two dads, how is that harmful ?! Get a grip luv
to those who want to know what i mean by this (this is my own personal opinion as i'm sure the Muslims have their own reasons). I have 2 issues with this 1. i have a big issue with the age that they are aiming at teaching towards which is 5 years old, at this age they are too young and innocent and still believe in father Christmas, we need to first teach them about where babies actually come from first before sexuality and preference. the appropriate age i think is 10-15 years old at this age they would know how they feel, who they are and what choice they want to take, they are mature enough where as 5 year old if you think they can make decisions like transsexual and transgender then they are mature enough to work and at 5 yrs they can be manipulated into doing what you want them to do as they believe whatever the teachers and adults tells them. my other issue is if its forced by the government through schools then its classed as an agenda and you cant favour one over the others, if you want equality and diversity then why not teach both left wing and right wing politics and christian beliefs plus Islam at least then its fair.if its also about teaching they are kids who have 2 dads or 2 mums i'm sure as parents we can tell them about this as its our job as parents whereas its the teachers job to prepare them for work ie maths, English, science etc not you got to believe this or no one at school will like you.
Wow good to see the protesters, I am Christian and disagree with what they are teaching. It is confusing our children. I am fighting the rights of children, how dare we tell children they can hate themselves and change. We are meant to protect our children and teach them to love themselves how they are made. Why is the media siding with the school, free speech is paramount
I am glad they are exercising their right to protest but I agree many Christian parents have resisted these efforts & were unfairly prosecuted so maybe they will respect the Islamic parents
People tolerate Homosexuality and now Transgenre!This world is going down!A man becomes a woman and vice versa!And people see this normal ,freedom of speech,extreme Feminism,LGBT,soon people will marry teir own pets Fortunatelly this law has not been accepted cos people should accept evertthng from people who want to impose their evil opinions! People are right to be homophobic and whats being homophobic mean actually?A man who doesnt lke his like his pair! But Homosexuality is forbidden in front of the Lord and we have to pray for these Lost people.I can understand that some people didnt have a religious faith or lost in their childhood which made them like this but pray for them in order to become normal. true this Law is made by POLITICS and its dangerous for children who have two dads or two mums! This Society forced people and families to accept everything and the worst!
YOUR Lord fucked up so many times. Levitucus 20 states the punishment for gays after your dumb god nuked Sodom and Gomorrah. They were there before and still are now and burying your dumb head in you book of fairy tales won't change that. Why did your stupid god have male/female couples, married before God who are infertile?
There is a conflict between many but not all faiths and LGBTQ acceptance. No one wants to say that or deal with it. In many cases they are in direct conflict. And that's the truth.
If these were Christian parents the title would be LGBT rights vs homophobia
As much as I hate Islam I have to agree with the Muslims here.
I don’t want the left brainwashing our kids with the their feminine bullshit.
@Mark Donald it's not about what the lessons are about, it's the age the kids are being taught at
@Mark Donald Jesus loves you
@@thomasholland2384 what if your kids are gay though? They need this information.
@@Freedom-hv3vm prove it.
Wow. Really surprised the BBC allowed comments on this segment
Well BRITISH Broad Casting has history of propaganda agenda against anyone not conforming to their indoctrination. People of Color, any faith which isn't Western Christianity r justified journalistic presucation....
BBC is for and by the Muslims.
Probably with the purpose to study public opinion and to know whether the sheep are completely brainwashed or some black sheep are still left
BunnDaSensi
Hopefully they won’t turn it off
I was surprised to be honest
Instead of reporting people's reactions to all this, BBC, why don't you actually do some REAL journalism and inform us WHAT exactly is being taught, HOW it's being taught, and what is the age group of the children in these lessons? This kind of haphazard reporting just provokes more reaction from people instead of informing them.
defund the BBC
thank you.
most underrated comment posted here.
@@angusgow1887
Haven't paid it since watching Panodrama. £6 a week better spent.
Because Main Stream Media is dead. And non biased journalism is dead
Well this is true, BBC were only concerned with painting the picture of homophobia, the bigger the beard the better. The activists pointed out for me as being a clue of who the information is targeted to. These cartoon illustrations that promote homosexuality, teenagers won't find that appealing but primary school children will.
If you don't get the irony of this, you might as well give up.
Well I don't see the irony and don't want to give up. Is it ironic because one minority discriminated against is discriminating against another minority discriminated against?
@@snaketooth0943 I think he means the title, if you drop "rights" it's ironic.
@@Rorek0fNol How is it ironic without rights?
@@snaketooth0943 It is ironic that one protected group are trying to oppress the others.
There's a thing called solidarity you should look it up some time
`Right, no one saw this coming, Please!!
an unusual set of circumstances
Diversity is our...wait, what!?
Is going to be very interesting for the left 🦁
Duck and Ginger you should yourself why is LBGT issues pushed on kids not whatever anyone saw this or that coming
Thats a pretty stupid reply. Teaching children about the world around them is what school is about. Its about reality and inclusion of children who's parents might be different from others. That is what they are teaching. When we say 'didn't see that coming' it has hit the left wing liberalism in the face because they have been blind to what was a long time coming with a 7th century regressive religion that is far from inclusive and liberal and quite the opposite.
People always say they believe in equality and freedom, so long as your ideas of equality and freedom align with my ideas of equality and freedom.
"all animals are equal but some are more equal than others"
Let’s all pretend it don’t happen.
Not sure what you mean, but yes true statement. You know if people said they identify as a zebra ok, don't discriminate against people who think they are zebras ok I get it fine, if you speak against people who think they are zebras and say they are wrong you are bigot and will be arrested mind control..
Freedom of speech
We want to teach kids that they can be zebras if they do choose , no thanks don't wanna confuse my children you are a bigot and hateful.
Ah,bless. The irresistible force of LGBTQ meets the immovable object of Islam. Let the games begin!
It does move when Muslims move to civilised countries. Most are OK with this teacking program and there are so few objecting agitators like Shakeel Asfar have to lie to and then bus in the most ignorant among them.
Hahaha!
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Mark Stevens funny how the left have kept silent
My money is on Islam
Nightmare for leftys this one 😂😂😂
and where is Owen Jones ?
Not at all. Nobody ever claimed that an oppressed group can't at the same time be oppressors in their own right. Just gotta use your head a little bit.
Dale Hitchcock not in a Muslim only school there won’t be
😂😂made my day😂😂
Leftie's have created this clash with great intention.
They love throwing around accusations of brainwashing. Oh the irony.
@steve11fox I worship 5 Gods including the Abrahamic God. Os that okay?
steve11fox please...just shut up.
@alan brown Stop gay bothering!
Andrew Bova u do realise heterosexual couples have anal sex too?
@@andrewbova5887 Oh wait, you are religious, right. Then there is no point in continuing this. I hope you get your 72 virgins in the end or in whatever fairytails you believe in. Just don't disturb other people with that shit. But if the majority of your country thinks like that then just stay there :)
Got the Liberals in a panic, they don't know which way to swing.
The Tories do pro LGBTI Seem like your the cat swinging around the room.
@Vageena Vinegar Are any other religions in 2019 beheading gays? Stoning women for adultery? Beating women? Chanting about death to gays, teaching young children these things?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Even in colonies that started America 400 years ago, the Christians were not killing gay people despite the teachings in the Bible. It's now 2019 and Islam is still killing gay people.
Your ignorance is amazing.
It's not 'liberal' it's compasion for fellow human beings without imposing your will on others and censoring freedom of speech. THAT is what 'liberals' have come to symbolize. /former democrat NEVER AGAIN!!!!
They’ll just blame the far right and scream nazi
@Vageena Vinegar Agreed! Also its worth noting that it was colonialism and its anti-sodomy laws, imposed on the muslim and African worlds post invasion. Its interesting that places like Thailand, have no problem with LGBTQ, they also were never colonialised.
@@wordscontrolminds I agree that the West brought anti gay to many countries and that was based on the content of Christianity... But the content of Islam also has a lot to answer for....In respect to Thailand, their Buddhist beliefs are naturally tolerant but having a gay son or daughter is not welcome by most Thai parents.. Their "tolerance" is limited to the gay children of others... .
“Skakeel’s children don’t go to this school”
Shakeel doesn’t have children.
BBC fail.
He's an agitator who will now be firmly on the radar of the security services.
His niece goes to that school.
You white ppl no longer know or understand what the word 'family' means or meant to your grandparents
So he fucked his sister? Why am I not surprised.
@@byteme9718 - since English is not your mother tongue, I suggest you check a dictionary for the meaning of 'niece'.
As for copulating with your mother /sister / daughter /dogs /horses/pigs / men with men etc, then that is YOUR speciality which you want to force on the rest of us.
@@mikhan5191 I used that word because incest is not at all uncommon within Islam. I knew you wouldnt be able to resist resonding. Unlike you most of my life has been spent in Islamic countries and the reality is so different to what you want to believe. I had never seen any TS/TG in the UK until I moved overseas, the first I saw were all Muslim and in larger numbers than I have ever seen elsewhere. That has never changed and in fact TS/TG and gays have become even more common possibly because they no longer feel safe in the backward states that would punish them. I thought Muslim girls would be so devout but I've slept with more than I can remember but it would be between 40 and 50. I worked around horses and more than once witnessed their Muslim grooms quite obviously fucking them. Incest occurs usually because a wife wants to dissuade her husband from taking another wife. Instead the eldest daughter is "offered" for sex. In the countries I work in Muslims are the only race to take hard drugs like heroin and crystal meth and they also have a disproportionately high rate of HIV infection. Do not dare take the moral high ground and claim Islam and Muslims are somehow superior because they're not. Look at Islamic countries around the world and see how backward and corrupt they are. Look at what Muslims have provided to advance the modern world, nothing unless it happens to be cash for the sale of oil non Muslims found, extracted, transported and refined. Apart from that the Islamic world has achieved nothing apart from corner shops that break their own laws by selling alcohol.
Schools should teach math and history and such things as that n leave personal n family issues at home for parents.
@Muhammad Rafiq Those muslim countries used to be christian and polytheists before they got invaded by muslims.
So you shouldn't teach kids about a very important part of life? Not like parents are known for teaching their kids about sex, who else will?
@@m.a.4500 I hope you're just kidding because if not then you must know very little about the impacts of not telling kids about safe sex.
Muhammad Rafiq Actually it was the other way around from 1400 years ago when Barbary pirates went on slave acquiring raids to European countries including England. That is what started the crusades in the first place, to drive them out, research Vlad the impaler, his impalling was to scare off future invasion...it worked too.
Cathy Woodell, Or much simpler, schools need to teach children facts and reality, not opinions that children should hold about those facts.
Such as “some males feel like they are girls” and not “it’s morally right/wrong to accept if males when they believe they are girls”. SIMPLE. Or if you want to present the different view points, you can: “some people believe gender 100% is caused by you anatomy/chromosomes, while some people believe, no matter the person’s anatomy, someone can identify as whichever gender they please...” taking the neutral stance, allowing kids to discuss it with their peers and parents.
Whether you agree with one side or the other of the debate concerning lgbt equality lessons doesn’t necessarily matter. What truly matters is if you believe the state and government should(or not) be indoctrinating children, and should parents have a say or not in a process of indoctrination.
It is important to note there is a difference between exposure and indoctrination, full exposure let’s the kids decide for themselves and they’re not outrightly being manipulated.
‘Indoctrination and recruitment’. Well, that’s ironic
I know right, pot calling the kettle black
Yep, both sides of this argument are masters of indoctrination.
G indoctrination and recruitment by gay rights advocates on young kids should not be allowed
Natural just means occurs in nature so yea it is natural. Teaching people that gay individuals and gay couples exist is not the same as anything being rammed down anyone’s throat. As for the Christian bakery, that’s not relevant. Liberalism for the win
Andrew Bova I don’t believe in Hell so I’ve got nothing to worry about
Just tell them diversity is our strength. That should work. xD
Lmao
Diversity is a disgrace and is not equality.
We've, well or government has been trying to tell us this for years, if not decades, to make them feel comfortable in our country by using that same sentence, but now they don't like it? Ok, they should go back. I their country then, simple.
@@constatinexipalaeologus507 lmfao I found out that theres a town in Arizona called Baghdad 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I was so laughing when I heard about it
@Orion XTZ You've got to be kidding??? STD's have exponentially risen nutcase!
These are the same folks that want criticism of their religious beliefs to be treated in the same category as racial hatred.
exactly, it's fucking absurd.
It is racist though, we need to respect the values of the Muslim community not embrace far right LGBT ideologies
I think your comment should actully be reflective of the ever growing reality of the matter which is: these are the same folks that want criticism of their LGBT beliefs to be treated in the same category as racial hatred.
@@ahmadillo4959 Ohh piss off it only what you see
hamish themack it is not racism mate
When I went to high school in Canada you had to get your parents to sign a consent for you to attend the sex education class. Why don't they institute the same in Britain.
Cause this lot wouldn't sign it.
@@waynemongo but some would including these ppl above
For the same reason we don't need people to sign a consent form for science class. Education is education. If the curriculum examined human rights, should people be able to opt out because of some archaic belief system.
Lakhbir Singn: This teaching program will be compulsory in all UK schools next year precisely because ignorant, prejudiced bigots like those protesting can't be trusted to raise their chidren properly.
@@anthonymorris5084 thats not education! Thats morals and forcing and agenda on young kids
I also don't agree with Halal meat in schools to appease a minority
What is wrong with halal meat ? Do u even know what halal meat is ?
I watched a video of a cow being halal slaughtered. I now only get meat from a trusted butcher.
EmmaJane Watts can I ask u a question about what is wrong with halal meat and do u even know what halal slaughter is
Just to clarify...i don't go into a vegetarian restaurant and demand steak so if u move into a culture you should respect the way they do things. We've been asked not to put pork products in kids pack up in case it offends.....if I go to said I I abode by there culture not expect it to change to fit in with me and finally I worked in abbottoirs so having seen private slaughters fully understand halal and kosha.
Don Robbie Aftv cutting a animals throat and seeing the sheer panic in its eyes while it’s trying its best to make a noise is sickening. I mistakenly thought we had strict animal cruelty laws in the UK. Also you can say all the prayers you want over it as they are just words, don’t think they make the poor animal feel better thou.
This is awkward; a protected minority arguing against the values of another protected minority.
Very awkward, and we all know which one will win. The one which is most threatening!!
"human rights" *shouts against another human right*
"equality!!!" *shouts against equality*
Me: *face palm*
@@heathersoares186 The LBGTs have woe this battle. Media is already branding the protestors as homophobic. Reason - i think its because a lot of LGBT activists work in the media.
@@scotland369 Yep. Sad but true.
@@scotland369 Except that ultimately LGBT people don't kill for their beliefs and the other side do. It'll be interesting when things heat up.
But diversity is our strength......YEAH RIGHT!! WAKE UP PEOPLE !!
@Ms Rana well actually it does, because some people do it, and honestly its none of your business!
Axel smith You are making it OUR business by teaching our children what it is and thats its ok
@@alexjames2510 Actually, Black women have the highest rates of HIV infection, please do some research. Also, you small minded bug of a person HIV is just a virus, its nothing to be ashamed of, gay, straight, bi, white, black, asian.... anyone can get it!!!!
@@alexjames2510 also Gay people have kids, and you're teaching OUR kids what a straight relation ship is!!!! and fyi it is okay, there's nothing wrong with it, its 100% natural and seen in thousands of animal species across the world
@@alexjames2510 I deeply support your right to pull your children out of such education.
However, I think it is good and only right for schools to provide this education, so you might want to consider pulling them out of Britain as a whole.
Bro wtf do Muslims mean when they say there not homophobic WHEN THERE FREAKING HATING AND SHAMING THEM. I can’t believe this is the religion I was born to..
What a mess. According to the equality act they both are technically right.
It became necessary due to some people being victimised which I guess you don't have problem with . Back to the good old days when you could be as racist or sexist as you wanted eh ?
Neither should be in schools.
Isn't that great? Equality act?
A voice for everyone that's moraly corrupt and does not care about traditional or safe child upbringing!
@@Nico-qw1im The equality act also protects, pregnant women, disabled people, elderly people and race. Are you implying these people are all morally bankrupt? The equality act is there to protect everyones rights regardless of who they are. We are all human and should have the same protections. I dont know what makes you believe you should have more rights than everyone else, what makes you believe you are above others?
but Islam is a foreign ideology ?
Lol ! WE TOLD YOU this would happen and you called us all "far right". Now you can drown in the reality of it, you enabled it.
@Ranger Man I don't see a bunch of Christians causing shit outside school you UTTER FUCKING IDIOT. 😂😂
Don't care for any religion but teaching YOUNG kids this crap is totally out of Order. All teachers are LEFTISTS out to brain wash our kids
@Ranger Man "christian values", "right wing scum" - judge not lest ye be judged, Ranger Man!
@Ranger Man so you don't want your child indoctrinated with equality, which I understand. But you'll indoctrinate them yourself, telling them they are going to hell if they are gay. What are you going to do if your child is actually gay? Disown them?
@Ranger Man I agree, I don't think children should be taught about same sex relationships in primary school. However, imagine your child grows up to be a right wing gay man. Where is he going to get his acceptance from? Because according to you, he will be scum who deserves to go to hell. You sound like the most hate filled Christian I've ever spoken to
WARNING: DO NOT WATCH THIS VIDEO WITHOUT POPCORN.
LGBT++++/ Modern Liberals vs Islam.
mmm... butter or no butter?
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Ton then I should wait I don’t have popcorn 🍿
'These people are sick.'
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This is exactly why religion shouldn't be a protected characteristic, in the same way that race, age, or disability are.
Those other things you don't get to choose, religion you do have a choice. And sadly many religious people just use it as a get out of jail free card to say they hate gay or trans people.
I would go further, I would not allow these deluded people to vote.
Trojan Horse. It's a tactic thats been successful time and time again. Good luck trying to stop it!
There are no Trojan horses just people concern for their kids
@@XMan-qu5kl oh trust me there are Trojan horses. Otherwise why is there oragniation after organisation quietly plotting all this. It's been a tactic used to conquer many countries and been successful.
Worried about their kids for what? For teaching no one is a outsider?
neil eastell who is stopping you from breeding ? It’s a free country after all
John Chappell There is such thing a Trojan horse by any community in the U.K. its all fake conspiracy spread by Russian trolls to cause chaos in our society the U.K. has most successful multi culture society in the world
@@XMan-qu5kl some people have got to work to pay for the benefits of all em. Plus we haven't got that all important.......not MasterCard the race card
I have a feeling this will escalate to a much larger scale, and not only around school program.
That's a good thing.
At present Islam has to live alongside cultural values and practices at complete odds with its own theological values.
It also has to abide by UK legal statutes including The Equality Act 2010. The act makes it illegal to discriminate against anyone with a protected characteristic. Such characteristics include LGBT identity and lifestyle expression .
Fast forward 30 to 50 years. Muslims may by then constitute a larger percentage of the UK population. Under such circumstances , is it likely that the rights of the LGBT community will be under greater or lesser threat?
There have been gay and lesbian people since the dawn of time. It is not a disease or a sin or a sign of moral weakness. They deserve the right to live a lifestyle in tune with who they are and we should all respect and accept that in the same way they respect and accept those who are heterosexual.
@Jacob Jimenez You and your favourite scientists might believe you evolved from primordial slime friend but my ancestors most definately didnt spring from pond life.
@Jacob Jimenez You appear fixated with genitalia and bacterial lifeforms. The internet satisfies most needs, even bizzare ones, so I'm sure you can find a fellow bacterial enthusiast you can share your passions with. Have a good life
Are they taught about grooming gangs
They should teach them about the mass massacres committed by western terrorist soldiers in iraq and syria
@I'm sorry About that! jimmy savile, yep spot on. The parliament paedo rings, totally unproven, no prosecutions and a serial liar naming all and sundry.
All the movies you watch and allow your children to watch are created by Paedowood. Has been running since the beginning of Hollywood and you people eat it up.
Chelsea Fan arabs muslims fought for the armenians but apparently fascists don’t care about history what about 1 million iraqi that you slaughtered and the five hundred thousand in syria and none of these invasions and occupation are legal and of course lets not forget Afghanistan why am I arguing with nazi you don’t even value life
@@kebabtank. Wtf are you talking about. There's at least 3 documentaries on TH-cam proving the parliamentary pedo rings. Tom Watson mp was the third mp who tried expose it. Two other mps were silenced with damning dossiers covered up by the pedo circles in hse 9f commons. Its worse than we think with links to royalty, media, BBC. Police, celebrities. All linked by freemasonry. So please do your research or be silent, as children are being abused and murdered daily by these psychopath scum bags.
If these were Christians the narrative would be completely different.
so because they are Muslims you will go against them?you Christian's don't know how to stand for your faith,you claim you follow god but then end up following society instead and then when we msulims do it rather than standing with us you just start complaining
Unfortunately
@@IDK-ue1gy
Sooo true
But...... Isn't diversity our strength???
Aaaaand the chickens come home to roost! 😄
Like the conservatives did five years ago. LOL
It’s a safe bet that both sides think the other side is the one whose chickens are coming home.
kt cool Or that subbuteo advert on tv in 1994....while we’re spouting off random shit
This is just the first HINT of the catastrophe that's coming.
المهاجر التونسي lol
Funny how the religious talk about brainwashing..lol
Of you speak against Islam that is hate, if you speak against LGBT that is hate, if you speak against Christianity critical thinking
No Muslim is brain washed ppl have a brain . and u can't be gay
@@andrewbova5887 Let them.
@junglemanlawyer1 There is a purgatory in Judaism called Sheol... a place for those who are neither righteous nor damned. In Christianity, Purgatory is more like a waiting line in the heaven's Judgement court... in a matter of speaking.
@@andrewbova5887 God does not want people to practice homosexuality.
Man, I never thought that I'd be siding with the Islamic ideologues
Phil Phlanigen why are you doing that? I don’t see anything wrong with that kind of sex education
HS39_ 786 i’m not though
@Taaj Manzoor123 I'm taking the piss, as they keep taking everything out on Muslims
theuglykwan I’ll just have to request you take a look at gay pride parades for that one
@@philphlanigen What are you pointing at specifically and how is that related to the outsiders program?
equality for some, not for others.
the saying goes like this. we are all equal, just some more than others.
@steve11fox they need to ban religion from schools
steve11fox lol where’s god? Thought he loved us?
Chelsea Fan God doesn’t interfere, he lets us do what we want for a while.
@@Doomedcreatures ALL religions including "social justice" and "feminism"
The BBC did a great job with dealing with Jimmy Saville. We should definitely trust them on this one!
This is being reported by other news networks you fool.
Viktor orban and Giorgio meloni defended the nuclear family 💯
Let's see how the left figure this one out? Ha ha ha ha he he he ha ah
It's not as if the right embrace LGBT people. Their position is simply to repudiate anyone who is not like them.
Anon Nymous don’t bring up conservatives in comparison to some 7th century dildo..wtf is wrong with your brain?. Liberalism is a mental disorder
*Anon Nymous* - I'm not British, but as I understand it, marriage equality was passed in the UK under a Conservative government, not a Labour one.
Ha ha ha ha he he he ha ah Big bob you and I should rule the World. but first let me turn you around. Yes!!!!!!😈💕
@@AmandaFromWisconsin conservatives here aren't even socially conservative tbh
In my opinion those children should NOT be subjected to those "lessons". In my opinion children are the property of their parents, NOT THE STATE....regardless of any religious views!!
@Don don so the child owes nothing to the mother that suffered months of pain and caring, money because your afraid that They will go aganist your degenerate values? Who are you to raise other peoples children?
Childrens are humans not property
@@ktheshadowwolf1235 yes
But the parents should have a sort of power over the children the education system should not have
Children aren’t fucking property you creep
Absolutely 100% agree these lessons shouldn't be taught two young children
Learn the difference between 'two' and 'to'. Then maybe you can start talking about the education of others.
HGH you talk about education but you don’t know the difference between two and to.
Why not?
Olivia_ Isla English does not equal to Educated. Get out in the world and explore
@@callumsawyer177 at least, he or she knows one more language than you somehow, you some English people are monolingual and meanwhile mocking the rest of the world for their ability to speak a nonnative language, ( sorry if my English is not perfect, lol)
This video considers only the Muslim families opposing the program. Christian families also oppose the program, but their views are not portrayed here. Very skewed BBC
Those are dismissed as homophobic bigots
@@erik9515 Because they are
because proportionally Christians dont protest this.
@@antistraightmen I am muslim and I know that being lgtbq isn't allowed in Christianity and most religions
@@zayanbmohamed8923 okay still makes you a homophobic bigot regardless
If the recent all- party definition of Islamophobia had been accepted by the government this BBC report would be seen as Islamophobia and thus against the law. What were the MPs thinking when they came up with this definition which has been accepted by the Labour Party, Liberal Party and Anna Soubry. Islam must be criticised if someone has a problem with it. I do feel they have the right to protest this No Outsider agenda however, but they should also understand that their beliefs can be criticised back without the threat of Islamophobia being made and a visit by the police.
So homophobia is OK but Islamophobia isn’t?
What a load of rubbish
Muslim homophobes need to get their act together or stop whinging about Islamophobia
Two-way street
@@JNMLondon
Anti Muslim bigotry isn't okay.
Islamophobia often gets manipulated by far right Islamic groups to slur critics of the religion and/or religious practices. That's the problem with the word Islamophobia. Use 'anti Muslim bigotry' as a term instead. It narrows the focus to ensure you target the real bigots, and it can't be manipulated by malicious actors to prevent valid criticisms of problematic practices.
@@Afterthoughtbtw Agree.
But perfectly ok to attack Christians
@@angusgow1887
That's why Muslims have their own made-up buzzword. Its sole purpose is to turn the perpetrators into victims, and the victims into keeping quiet.
REPENT Jesus is coming back WE ARE IN THE END TIMES.
Σωστό.....
Lmao
You're so into your fairytales !! Behahahahah
When I see what's going on around the world, I'm more convinced that Our Lord Jesus is on His way and not that far. Than again, no one , not Him nor the angels in heaven know the day this will be. Only the Father knows. God gives men free will to choose their life style, but it must be in accordance with His laws. In the end He will asks each one, " Why didn't you follow my laws?." I agree that children should not be exposed to this topic of behavior at schools. If so it can create great confusion in them. I know man that were dressed with girls clothing when they were little and they turned out homosexual. Their mothers would dress them like that because they looked "cute." Children are like sponges. This is why we must be careful what we teach them. Sex education should be taught during middle school as they reach teen years. Parents should also talk to their teens on this topic. As for me, I'm concerned with all the unrest that's going on in the world. All we can do is pray to God for world peace and for His guidance and protection every day. Lets not just remember Him when it thunders.😃. Florida. USA
@Josiah Krills101
Because it's a foolish book like all other religious books.
Lol rah right 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂as if!
Just teach them how to read, write and do math! That is what school is for. Parents are suppose to teach children about life.
Absolutely. Let's get the religion of Christianity out of school as well. In the UK it has to be taught, even to other beliefs or none.
so take out sex ed all together?
let STD, underage pregnancies and prejudices run wild?
Axel smith Kids can learn about basic biology and how pregnancy occurs and how unprotected sex leads to STDs but they don’t need to learn how some perverted men like it up the arse
@@alexjames2510 The teachers aren't teaching that. Not that a fact or two bothers anyone arguing against this item.
Well, like we say in Spanish: "cria cuervos y te sacarán los ojos"
(raise ravens and they will pull your eyes out).
You can't promote a culture of tolerance of Islamic radicalism and expect LGBT equality.
What's radical about wanting your offspring to have a normal marriage and birthing their own children?
Muslim Me homosexuality happens in nature as well, what do you think of that?
Anton Babani not the point I was making at all but well done idiot, also one of those has a victim, one is a sexual preference.
Go back to Mexico 😂
Ik this is racist.
Emir Mohamed Al-Bergha homosexuality does absolutely nothing to affect a species, literally nothing.
Dont brainwash our children
Respect other and get Respected simple as
You cant brainwash someone to be gay. Are you saying you could be brainwashed to put a dick inside you?
@@dalehitchcock6382 you can
th-cam.com/video/FGePRx9oKnU/w-d-xo.html
@@هدي-ه8ظ so your admitting you could be gay if someone persuaded you? You could personally be convinced to be attracted to another guy (or female if your a woman).
If you think you could be persuaded fairly easily to have sex with someone of the same sex then your gay already. You don't need anyone to brainwash you.
We feel exactly the same in Australia we have 13 year old girls having full mastectomies wanting to change their gender.
As a parent I send my kid to school to learn math, science, and language. My expectation is that the educators are experts in their fields and are best equipped to educate my children in these areas. It was not always the domain of schools to teach on these subjects and I believe the parents are best equipped to instruct their children in the areas of relationships and sexuality. I am not Muslim but I believe every parent who is raising their children has the right to instruct their children on what form of relationships they believe are best for their children. That being said the schools have the right to inform the parents that any form of bullying by their child towards another raised with different values will not be tolerated.
Not only are you not Muslim you're not British. Your backward country is obsessed with some daft 2000 year old book full of hatred and lies so obviously your (baseless) opion is worthless here. This teaching program will be compulsory in all UK schools from next year and the reason is because religious nut jobs can't be trusted to teach their kids appropriately.
“I’m a parent and I believe other parents should be allowed to be homophobic”
I call this ridiculous stop trying to protect Islam honestly if this religion never excist LGBT would have had free from the start more faster. We literally existed years before ur religion get that we where here first with peaceful life until ur islam came to existins.
@@silvermochi3273 stop trying to protect lgbtq. if they had not existed then islam would not have to do this
-exactly what u said but other way round
@@mariscalli325 pfft bro let me tell u something am bi and I am from the LGBTQ we have existed decades and centerius before ur "Islam" ever came to existed we where accepted by all we where just not common but still accepted as humans beings so honestly stop talking bullshit and educate ur Islam is a cult by your pedophile for prophet who has hurt thousands and millions of people to join his cult raped woman and a god freaking child as his wife and ur telling me my sexuality Is something in human? But ur pedo loving prophet and warlord rapist / misygonist is fine? Damn .....
Oh shit...trying to push cultural relativism on a government level doesn't work? Who knew?
What's cultural relativism?
@@johnnyenglish1264 kind of like trying to push your way of life/cultural beliefs onto a nation via the government
I'm atheist and I wouldn't want my kid to be learning about this stuff.
Then you're a homophobe.
@@shrimpfriedizzy And you're a heterophobe.
@@AIONBERSERKER care to explain?
@ryan B I'm not white. Nice assumption.
@@shrimpfriedizzy The same way I'm against my kids being brought up around homosexuality, you're against my kids being brought up around heterosexuality.
You people claim to be liberal, but you don't care about people who have views that contrast to yours.
Men having sex with other men is wrong. However a fifty year old Arab warlord having sex with a nine year old girl is fine. So long as the angel he met in a cave says 'okay'
The inevitable clash between lib/prog ideas and the average Muslim value...this has been coming for years
"it's just our moral values, we're not homophobic"
Funny how those 'moral values' just happen to be homophobic
Ikr
Ikr 😂😂
How is it homophobic lol. I am reaching out to you lmaoo please can you explain why children should be learning this when their time is limited and the amount of competition in the world, why exactly should this be what they're learning?
@@nadjiguemarful I kind of agree on you with that one mate. I don’t think that’s the reason those people were protesting though.
@@nadjiguemarful Learning to accept different types of people is important for a good society. Just imagine if they taught the opposite.
Where are the Christians in this CHRISTIAN COUNTRY? Why is it always MUSLIMS defending traditional European and Christian values?
Burn more witches!
The Christians have lost their way friend
2r3333 ADOS Animals also kill and rape each other - are you calling us to do that too?
@2r3333 ADOS "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to DEATH; their blood is upon them." Leviticus 20:13
@2r3333 ADOS' no real black person supports trump' you racist twat..is candace owens black enough for you? What a ridiculous statement..are diamond and silk black enough for you? This aint about race, moron, its about sexual perverts and reigious fanatics fighting over who gets to indoctrinate children get outta here with yer racist twaddle....
As a Christian this makes me ashamed, that it had to be the Muslims that took up this Paramount issue, by spearheading this fight. shows the weakness and Ahab Spirit of the Christian church in today's day and age.
Religion is a choice. Being gay isn't, people need to understand. Simple. You cannot become gay or become straight if you aren't. 100% the homophobic views are bourne out of ignorance, I agree. When will ALL religiously conservative communities understand that their lack of teaching about tolerance (at the least) is leading to severely prejudiced views against LGBT people. And they claim not to be homophobes. LGBT people from within those religious communities receive very damaging conflicting messages leading them into a state of denial, being closeted and adverse mental health effects. If you're not going to teach about gay relationships, the least you can do is to teach about tolerance and not being abusive towards people who don't share the same views. LGBT people are being persecuted within religious communities for this reason you can see it in the video! It is incredibly hypocritical for anyone from the Muslim community to preach homophobic views whilst simultaneously claiming to be the victims of islamophobia.
Better yet, let's not import ultra Conservative people en-masse into our country.
Who is arguing any of that? People of faith don't say that having gay sexual urges is a sin, it's acting on it that is deemed sinful (at least in Islam). They believe that refraining from sin and repenting if necessary will get them a chance at paradise and fending off a trip to hell. You might call that ignorant but you saying that will not change anything and don't try to suggest that every person, religious or not, suffers adverse mental health effects for refraining from their desires, whatever desire that may be.
Mister Physics and Jews.
@@jameswhiteley6843 Unfortunately I wouldn't agree with this either as there is no way of gauging one's thoughts and opinions at the border. Someone can be religious one day and not the next or vice versa. Besides we pride ourselves as a liberal democratic society on our freedom of speech. We just have to agree to disagree on matters of opinion, what I cannot stand however is when someone impinges on the freedoms of another due to their freedom of religion. Religious people have the freedom to believe what they want, what they DO NOT have is the right to interfere in anyone else's private life, in this case LGBT people. They just need to understand that their views will be tolerated, just don't attack someone else for exercising their rights either.
@@zoom192 Muslim youth are more religious in the UK than their parents and grandparents. The Muslim demographic also has the highest fertility rates in the country and by 2050 they will represent almost 20% of the UK's population. There will be no liberal democracy when conservative Muslims reject Western values and would prefer to live under a theocratic system. Maybe it's best we don't import these people into our country and avoid the problems such as FGM, terrorism, child marriage, polygamy, honour killings and numerous other alien customs with them.
The guy leading the campaign Shakeel is such a closet case. So obvious to see.
God does not want people to practice homosexuality.
@@StimParavane God doesn't exist you moron!!!
@@horrorgamer6687 People who protest too much normally have something to hide. Especially if they come from a repressed culture or religion. Science backs it up. What was that you were saying about dick suckers?
God is dead. We killed God, and God is not coming back.
@@s0ltinsert782 Tip that fedora harder lmao
Telling a 7 year old child they could be the opposite sex trapped in their body is the most unjust thing you could do to a child.
Letting a child explored their Gender Expression when they’re young (when Trans people more often then not have literally said that’s when they even knew they were different from other kids) is pale in comparison to teaching young, impressionable children that a magical, no proof In sight, sky daddy exists and will come talk to them and (creepily) watch over them 24/7 and who’d send them to Hell for the slightest smallest mistake they’d make is one of the most damaging thing to ever tell a Child.
@@Anonymous-gq4gq a "sky daddy" is somehow more reasonable than the concept of 72 genders
@@Anonymous-gq4gq a "sky daddy" that forgives your slightest mistakes, and has laws that ain't black and white is much better than letting kids "express their gender". as the reply above mentioned 72 genders is unreasonable compared to a "sky daddy"
@@Anonymous-gq4gq 🤓
It’s true
And this is the irony of our age. The Muslim community in Britain, elsewhere in Europe and the world, is fighting for equal rights, against discrimination, intolerance, islamophobia etc. Yet in the same breath, they turn around and readily advocate against other communities, in this case the LGBT community, preaching and fighting to deny their rights. So you are asking for the rights you want to deny others...The thing about human rights is that they are universal and don't belong to any community or minority in particular. Either all have them, or no one has them...there is no in-between. Something Muslims and others may also want to think about when pleading with the rest of the world for tolerance and understanding.
These ppl are only asking not to have "THEIR OWN" children exposed to something that is completley forbidden in THEIR culture religion n society. No one is against any body....just dont IMPOSE something on their offspring.
Imposing something unwanted to one person....is not human rights
Ask the jewish or orthidox christians about same subject.
When western expats have their children studying in muslim countries....they are not forced to learn tk accept sharia values....its their parents choice..
So dont FORCE homosexuality acceptance on muslim or jewish or any religious kid.
And lets not forget, we are not speaking about female rights or respect of peoples freedoms or respect to race.....we are talking about something UN NATURAL...something which has been proven biologicaly to spread dangerous std's..
And something which breaks the whole divine family value.
Yet homosexuals deserve every respect as everyone else,its their choice who they relate with..just keep it away from the underage kids..
Especially kids of other faiths n cultures.. when u force it, n punish parents who choose to skip those lessons...then WHERES THE FREEDOM OF CHOICE??
Have you ever heard of the freedom of education, and the freedom of family life, as codified in the UN treaty of human rights, which basically implies that the state should stay out of these kind of things? What business does the government have in imposing a moral view on sexuality that many parents do not buy into?
Strange how those who are intolerant wish to be tolerated themselves.
Don't be a hypocrite, the LGBT community sticking up for themselves is not being "intolerant" you're the ones who push your intolerance first forcing us to clap back at you.
Kyle Englot he was talking about the muslims
@@dtaylor4552 why a Dutch?
All religions are doing this, and it's despicable everywhere. I don't know why muslims are getting extra hate for this when you see many christians and jews like this
@Henrik Burms I agree, homophobia in all religions should be equally challenged, but my point is there’s intolerance is all religions, one is not more pure than the others
Clash of the cults.
Multicultural society is a dead one, not a successful one.
@Reckoning
Its a clash between who promote sexual immoralities and those that are against them.
Crippling Depression Women also do not bleed 24/7. They only bleed 3 days a month and most heterosexual do not have sex when a girl is bleeding, she usually offers oral sex when menstruating. I’ve never had anal because its disgusting and unnatural
@Crippling Depression
I agree. Bible is full of immoral acts and the prophets in the bible are conducted as immoral and evil people.
I am a muslim and i am clearly opposed to homosexuality.
Also, do you agree to sex between mother and son or father and daughter or father and son, as long as there is consent ?
@Reckoning
Don't waste my time with your athiestic shit.
Prove to me why son having sex with his father is wrong. Don't go into these circular arguments. Incest is wrong because it is incestial, proce to me this statement.
If a son is mature enough and the son and father both consent to the sex, why is it wrong.
The problem with you guys is that you say people can do anything as long as their is consent, but when it comes to incest, you say no ?
There is something called biology, it says hat no one is born homosexual.
Many animals sometimes commit paedophilia, do you think we should allow that as well ?
Since when are we following the examples of animals ?
Both Christians, Jews, and Muslims had gatherings against these lessons, if you saw footage you wouldve seen both muslims and christians holding signs together
That's because they're all deluded and most have very little knowledge of their holy books. Where in the Bible is homosexuality condemned?
@@byteme9718 Homosexuality is condemned in both the old testament and the new testament. The Koran also condemns it. Religious people hate gay people. Funny, people who work on the sabbath are supposed to be stoned to death but the bigots don't seem to care about that. Fortunately the entire modern medical and legal communities have concluded that there is nothing wrong or unhealthy about it. If religious people had it their way they'd trash all sex education (because they hate sex of any kind actually) and then they'll trash the science classes because that contradicts their ancient scrolls as well. We'll all go back to the dark ages where evidence, data, facts, and statistics are meaningless.
Homophobes Vs Islamophobes.
Fight, fight, fight!😆
hang on its not islamophobic to question someones homophobia
@@robertjsmith
Don't you know that any questioning of the religion of peace, and its followers, is islamophobic nowadays?
Similarly, any doubts about exposing young children to "alternative" lifestyles, or the myriad of gender identities is based purely on hatred and fear.......or so we've been told.
Mind you, I'd feel safer leaving my kids with the latter group rather than the former....ask the good people of Rotherham.
@@adventussaxonum448 not all muslims or christians are extremists.
@@robertjsmith
Not sure you're getting the point about PC. Any criticism of any facet of Islam, or of forcing the agenda of LGBTQ, is labelled as Islamophobic or homophobic respectively. These groups insist on the labelling, not us.
@@adventussaxonum448 do you mean in the same way as any criticism of Israel is anti semitic?
"They want to convert you and that´s just wrong!"
oh the irony)
@@B4neh4llow LOL
@@B4neh4llow 😭
@@B4neh4llow what irony? They didn't try to convert anyone, nvm you might not reply
@@88s68 ikr lgbt want to convert more than muslims in the uk maybe?
The moral clash is a false equivalency. Islam is a choice; homosexuality isn't.
Good piece Newsnight.
God does not want people to practice homosexuality.
Homosexuality might not be a choice, but putting your penis in another man definitely is.
no it's the other way around, there's a chance you're born into a muslim household, there's no chance of being in a gay household.
Would love to see the diversity officer teaching the muslim parents on respecting the gender pronouns their kid chooses
RNAUGH100 Never gonna happen.
They can shove their pronouns where the sun don’t shine.
Never gonna happen
we don't give a shit
So it is a choice, I can choose to identify as a piano then what a stupid thing.
Gender pronouns, where is this stupidity coming from?
Muslims are right. Who on earth cares about your stupid gender pronouns. What is that? What are you going to invent next?
a lot of people sticking their noses in are not even parents,Owen Jones a prime example
@Vageena Vinegar it makes a big difference ,why do you think they are protesting
@Vageena Vinegar of course they have a right to protest,reject,object and what responsible parent wouldn't if they did not agree with something enforced upon their children they disliked and refused to embrace,they are the parents WHO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THEIR CHILDREN
@Vageena Vinegar one of the books used is named,"the king and the king"tell me one king that is in or had a loving relationship with another king please ?
@Vageena Vinegar so you havn't got an answer,fine,and you think it is ok and within law for all fairy stories to be enforced upon children who's parents object,amazing,considering you probably attack every bit of fairy story that has a hint of something not acceptable to the SJW,double standards and hypocrisy spring to mind here
@Vageena Vinegar Not at all,you refuse to even acknowledge or consider the parents objections on this,your an authouritarian a labour voter no doubts guessing you hate true democacy, your happy and content for this enforcement of your fantasy good values fairy stories on kids ,without the parents consent !!!!
I agree with the protests. Religion and tradition is more important than some perverted movement. Grown men in full BDSM bodysuits bring parraded around during gay pride marches, its sick
Always some women behind pushing the gay agenda
No religions and traditions are sick and pointless. Its practically mental illness to believe something based on what? A book written by some primitive, desert dwelling humans who didnt have access to the knowledge or resources we have today? Yah brilliant, that makes a lot of sense dumb ass.
@@username9033 yes and we treat the problem with hormones and surgery, so what's your point?
@@username9033 that is the treatment no other has proved 2 work
@@username9033 proven by who? Your dad?
WHY DOO CHILDREN NEED LERN LGBT IN PRIMARY SCHOOL ITS SHAMEFUL THEY PUSHING A AGENDER.
She reads people messages people a pissed off now lets see the messages from BBC, ITV, on Oldham, Rochdale, Rotherham, Telford, etc,
Maybe spend a little less time worrying about this and more time focusing on your OWN education. Maybe start with spelling? Just a thought.
@@callumsawyer177 Thats your best debate spell better I was traveling the country instead of going school schools a trained to condition your children my spelling is terrible but my latin history and conscience is perfect
Yep, they totally are pushing those with no gender it seems.
Will you cry somemore when you can't force being straight onto others?
@@SheIsAVampireBat I will cry for them been forced against they religion and rights
@@callumsawyer177 That's a bit low isn't it? How many other languages do You speak? Did you ever make an effort to speak something else than your native tongue? I don't mean "Hasta la vista, baby".....
The United Kingdom made it's bed of thorns. Now it is laying in it!! 😂
This is the UK thought it was middle east. O wait it is.......
@Phat Pigeon Don't see POC leaving the US to live in Africa or Mexico, plenty of people desperately trying to get into the US though... so you're talking shite.
You should tell 'Drump' to build a wall or something to stop immigrants from entering the US, for their own protection.
@Phat Pigeon that's President Trump.
@Phat Pigeon it wasn't an answer, it was a statement seeing as you never asked a question in the first place.
Also can we just address the fact that "religious freedom" is never used for anything besides indoctrinating and abusing children or to circumvent hate speech laws?
My mom told me that the school used teach kids about prayer and the bible.
And now their teaching them how to be gay!😒
Smh
Wow that sounds like awesome progress.
@@adelatejeda6114
I think this person's point is that they change "facts" as the culture changes and whatever is popular.
@@adelatejeda6114 awesome only for brainwashed peoples
When someone feels the need to state that they are not homophobic it is always a clear sign that they are.
@Alice Rabbit How don't you? The fact that you can protest outside schools and make comments on TH-cam giving your views without the police arresting you suggests that your freedom of speech is not being curtailed. Stop playing the victim when you aren't one.
@Alice Rabbit So then why are they still protesting and why is your comment about "dirty perverts" still here. It's all in your brainwashed mind.
Why do they have to indoctrinate children into sexual politics? It's not only Muslims that want to protect their children from age inappropriate topics and confusing ideology. Children should be children. Teach them to be nice, respectful and focus on teaching them to read, write, maths and developmentally appropriate life skills.
Oh lordy, was this filmed at the beginning of the 20th century in some third world country? How can you have such an old fashioned and narrow and excluding view in 2019 in the UK?
Because our leaders imported the third-world against the wishes of the people. As the Muslim population gets larger, so will intolerance to LGBT rights.
So homosexuality is the basis of civilization is it? Funny that one, every civilization in history was religious and forbade homosexuality. This is supposed to be a Christian country and Christianity forbids homosexuality as did this country up until 1967.
All you're doing is making an appeal of presentism. No one can be forced to support a homosexual lifestyle whether it's the 21th or 31th century. Do you have any other argument to support your views?
Excuse me, but these are views shared by many white Brits, except that they are too scared to air them for fear of being ostrasized by the prevailing zeitgeist and state-sponsored programme. As for this being "narrow", yeah whatever. Let me know when they ply your son with hormones and then fast-track him off for life-changing sexual reassignment surgery at 5 years of age merely because he liked to play with a few dolls. God save the queen!
@Mister Physics I always suspected that some of the "love" for the LGBT was due to their lower fertility rate and higher HIV/Aids-occurrence and mortality. At least you're blunt about it.
Dear non radical Muslims, welcome to the right
😂😂😂. The shift has started
Muslims have always been conservative, the only reason why muslims stay and vote for the left is because of the Israel/Palestine disagreement with the right, and that the right is filled with racists.
Sick,, let children be children..
what about gay children?
@@Cserediak there are no gay ir straight kids as they don't understand or feel sexuality yet
@@husseinfoudah6182 you're actually a fool, kids are born gay or straight, you have crushes, you like the kids in your class, just because you're not thinking about sex doesn't mean your sexual identity isn't there!!
@@Cserediak
Straight kids are majority, gay kids are minority and the majority is not obligated to appease the minority.
Axel smith Kids are born normal. No one is interested in your degenerate urges.
But homophobic is when you are bullying the LBGT group, not when you are defending your values and culture.
@E I hear that but I think what I'm a bit concerned about is, people calling those who are classed as heterosexual are being called homophobic because they don't agree to the teaching of LBGTQ being taught to their children. I actually think in reverse its a type of bullying towards straight people. Just because it is law, it doesn't have to be accepted by those who do not practice LGBTQ methods or way of doing things.
@E also we are out of the EU now so there are no Human rights in this country unless they have replaced it with something else that I'm not aware of. And its not only about what country or religion you come from, Its about individual culture and values. Plus England is a Christian state. The Queen family don't even entertain LGBTQ but the Queen accepts other people differences. And the family has enough tax payers money to send their children to private school that does dicuss LGBTQ. or am I wrong about what my perspective are on the topic?
Yet again divide created,but i happen to agree with Muslim on this topic.My reason being let children be children,they should not be taught this so young in schools.I am not anti gay infact not anti anyone individually but what is this all leading too confusing kids to transgender and they cannot have kids if that is done.,
What are they actually teaching?
Anyone that would support government, schools, special identity groups teaching your children about sex, gay or straight, is utterly insane. This is a parent's responsibility....LEAVE OUR CHILDREN ALONE.
lay off the crack pipe
God bless you
Anyone that respects Islam should see what it's like living in a muslim country!
This 💯
But I thought multiculturalism was supposed to be a good thing?
Conservative Muslims are the Right wing my dude.
It is a good thing, please don't act like this is not how many christians act and think aswell
They don't know the difference from converting and teaching. They need to go back to school
Dear leftists intellectuals: too much of a good thing is a bad thing. That goes for tolerance too.
not really, if we had 100% tolerance it would be great, and 100% is the most you can have.
Limitless tolerance towards the intolerant will eventually lead to intolerance.
If we had no tolerance for anything at all the world would literally crumble
@@Cserediak okay if you want a closer to even 10% tolerance get rid of isl@m lmao simple but you left itsts are too busy cancelling someone who's 32 and used the n word when they were 12
And Antifa are nowhere to be seen...
ANTIFA: Another Non Thinking Intolerant Fascist Asshole
Clash of the (oppression olympics) Titans. I’m enjoying. Please continue. 😄😄😄
Oh the joy, oh the joy is too much darling. "Please continue" indeed!
karan Naga Yes, indeed! 😆😆😆
The irony of it coming from a back person. XD
@Kyle P.V she isn't British look at her channel
@@kakarote100 back people what do back people look like
If you dont want your child learning this dont send them there if a child isnt gay they wont be “indoctrinated” some kids are just gay get over it
Okay, I’m no expert on this but this is just my opinion.
When I was growing up in the 90’s, we weren’t educated on the LGBT community in school and as I recall people weren’t exactly very friendly towards the LGBT community.
While I have no love for Modern Religion (as it can cause some people to hate, fight, discriminate or even kill each other over things that are non existent or no longer relevant), Religion should still be taught at school as it educates kids on how different beliefs, views and different cultures from around the world work. The LGBT community also shows how we all different and also equal. Kids need to understand that there is nothing wrong with being gay and some people are attracted to the same sex.
So I say “yes” they should teach this at school.
Wouldn’t the best method be just to sit down and discuss with the parents the best method to educate their kids?
Bring back opt outs
We don't need sex education. Parents can give the talk. That's a parents job. Not the state controlled schools.
The problem with that is obvious if you read a few posts here. Reigious bigots can't be trusted to do that because they have no understanding of morality.
Let kids be kids.....no sexual info of anykind shoukd be given to kids...puberty years, ok
That's the point, there is no sexual info being given to kids 😂😂😂 it's not even relationship advice, its simply awareness different family make-ups and tolerance of that!!
It is obviously religion vs secularism, tho at least secular societies offer freedom of speech, try holding a gay pride protest in Saudi Arabia or Iran...
Lol at the woman speaking about brainwashing......what is religion exactly?
Religion in itself is not brainwashing, and you should know this. You sound like an atheist parroting ignorant anti-theist nonsense rhetoric. By your logic you can't teach kids what's morally right or wrong because that would be brainwashing, they need to figure it out on their own.
Goblin Isac you can teach a child good morals without telling them to believe in a mythical being.
@@bodspafc As if teaching them about a deity is necessary to brainwash children. How many kids have been brainwashed into being trans or gender fluid? Did they use God(s) to do that? No, they didn't. Things like *Rapid onset Gender Dysphoria* wasn't caused by telling kids about deities.
The whole USSR was atheist and they indoctrinated people & kids into their secular atheist dogma to the point of brainwashing.
Regardless, not all theist type religions teach you to blindly believe why something is right or wrong. Religions like Christianity explains why through examples & etc.. It's not just because God said so, and you'd know this if you even really talked to some Christians. They will discuss all the time why some thing are immoral, or the problems caused by said behaviors.
There are many great Christian philosophers like John Locke (if I remember correctly). Many of which influenced western values we take granted today, that come from Christian beliefs.
Goblin Isac I agree completely about most of your points. But telling a young child to believe in a mythical being that watches over them and judges them and who they have to pray to is a form of brain washing in my eyes. I agree that religion can teach good morals....I never said it doesn’t. But telling kids to believe in something without them being mature enough to make their own decisions is brainwashing.
@@bodspafc
Just because it is brainwashing in your eyes doesn't make it so. You are not an authority on what brainwashing is, nor are you an authority on right and wrong.
I'm not religious but I don't think these parents are completely wrong. Kids at that age should just be allowed to play with their friends and be introduced to basic skills like reading and writing. Of course, if these same parents are force feeding their kids their own moral values then they are hypocrites, but that doesn't mean that concerns about the curriculum are invalid.
Personally I don't see any harm in just telling kids about the existence of gay parents/relationship. We do live in a society where gay people are allow to hold hands and kiss in public. Parents preventing children from knowing them imply gay's whole existence are inappropriate, which isn't the case at all. Of course we should also teach child about different religious and culture as well to make it fair, which most schools are doing anyway.
@@matts5164 I don't disagree. My point was that certain things can be left to when kids are older. I don't know the age at which this is taught nor do I know the exact content or methodology of the curriculum, hence I don't feel able to just dismiss their concerns as just religious fanaticism.
Don't kids have enough to learn, reading writing sports, diet, mental health there's loads of useful things young kids can learn and take in that will help in latter life, knowing that a gay person likes to put his cock up another blokes arse is not going to be of much use
@@clarencebodicker3299 Whatever God you believe in, may he bless ya.
@@islamicsensei thanks, thanks very much
I'm muslim and I'm for equality and respect for lgbt. We can't deny rights for others whilst demanding equality for muslims.
Well said S Hussein.
S Hussein your a fake profile made up by a bender
@@RayzaEFC what evidence do you have that S Hussein is bent? S/he has made a valid intelligent point.
Absolutely cucked.
May muslims countries be great again ALLAHUAKBAR
Schools should teach the basics regarding sex and how babies are made, they should teach not to bully or treat people badly because they are different from how the majority live their lives regarding sexuality, but other than that leave the rest for the parents to explain. Let children be children, they grown up too quick as it is.
Isn't that what the no outsider programme and related lessons are doing though? Teaching children to respect and making them aware of their existence.
@@matts5164 I don't know what the programme teaches.
Is it possible for such a programme to teach something that is worthy of protest?
I actually think the Muslim community here might be on to something. What if homosexuality or transgenderism is not determined at birth? What if it is malleable? In that case, the teaching might affect the children. We now have rapidly increasing numbers of people who believe that they are born as the wrong sex - and people who believe that about themselves are likely to be depressed as a result. Why do we have such a rise, and does a link with depression, etc, mean that such a rise is undesirable?
So actually the right and wrong of this all hangs on two propositions: firstly, in order to bring kids up to be tolerant, is it necessary to give them the impression early on in life that every variety of existence/behaviour (which might be a target for intolerance) is very common and unremarkable?
Secondly, is human sexuality (and I think in this case gender identity) at all malleable?
If the answer to the second question is 'No', then any discrimination and/or marginalization is not only cruel and damaging, but it is also pointless and unnecessary.
But if it is 'Yes', then it becomes a utilitarian debate about which course of action avoids the greater evil.
@@CBfrmcardiff
"I don't know what the programme teaches."
I did manage to find a link that shows what the no outsider is about and after going through with it the overall course is harmless.
www.featherstoneprimaryschool.co.uk/_site/data/files/users/presentations/E5825A7F7DD58E2C6E9148A78492AD49.pdf
"What if homosexuality or transgenderism is not determined at birth?
There have been a lot of researches on this topic, where the scientists are trying to identify the people for having different sexual orientation and gender dysphoria. the current research is leaning towards Biological factors than parenting and child experiences.
"We now have rapidly increasing numbers of people who believe that they are born as the wrong sex"
I think that's more to do with people are now able to identify their gender dysphoria thanks to the internet and able to come out due to society being acceptance with the idea of transgender.
"link with depression, etc, mean that such a rise is undesirable?"
People with different sexual orientation and gender dysphoria are more likely to be in depression is mainly due to a feeling of isolation and Rejection. While today's society being gay or trans is far better than 50 years ago, they still face challenges. So it's not really being gay/trans directly leads to depression, it's being gay/trans could lead to more pressure/isolation/rejection which ultimately may lead to them having more chance of mental illness.
Personally, I don't see issues with letting children know about gay/trans, we do live in a society where it is okay to be gay/trans. Letting them know will not turn them gay/trans, that's pretty ridiculous. Those parents are freaking out for no reason. They aren't the one missing out here, it's the children.
Sadly their not gonna do that expeally really religious parent their gonna gate keep their kids from these important topic expeally when their older making this kids to be hateful and confused
@@matts5164 you think religion is not real with is definitely true
i agree with the parents, it shouldnt be forced on you through schools
They're forcing kids to be gay? Idiot!
Oh dear😂use your brain please! Forcing what exactly! They are literally teaching about how other children might have two mums or two dads, how is that harmful ?! Get a grip luv
And what do you think is being forced Danielle? I want to know EXACTLY....
to those who want to know what i mean by this (this is my own personal opinion as i'm sure the Muslims have their own reasons). I have 2 issues with this 1. i have a big issue with the age that they are aiming at teaching towards which is 5 years old, at this age they are too young and innocent and still believe in father Christmas, we need to first teach them about where babies actually come from first before sexuality and preference. the appropriate age i think is 10-15 years old at this age they would know how they feel, who they are and what choice they want to take, they are mature enough where as 5 year old if you think they can make decisions like transsexual and transgender then they are mature enough to work and at 5 yrs they can be manipulated into doing what you want them to do as they believe whatever the teachers and adults tells them. my other issue is if its forced by the government through schools then its classed as an agenda and you cant favour one over the others, if you want equality and diversity then why not teach both left wing and right wing politics and christian beliefs plus Islam at least then its fair.if its also about teaching they are kids who have 2 dads or 2 mums i'm sure as parents we can tell them about this as its our job as parents whereas its the teachers job to prepare them for work ie maths, English, science etc not you got to believe this or no one at school will like you.
@@danielle3933 This isn't about sex you pervert!
Wow good to see the protesters, I am Christian and disagree with what they are teaching. It is confusing our children. I am fighting the rights of children, how dare we tell children they can hate themselves and change. We are meant to protect our children and teach them to love themselves how they are made. Why is the media siding with the school, free speech is paramount
I'm Muslim, I totally agree with you 👍
Lets not split hairs, "transitioning" a child sexualizes that child, an sexualizing a child is wrong!
How sad the lgbt corruption
Classic bbc editing - putting the creepy music in the background to make someone out to be in the wrong
bill cosby ... yes, especially when they're all wrong. : )
I am glad they are exercising their right to protest but I agree many Christian parents have resisted these efforts & were unfairly prosecuted so maybe they will respect the Islamic parents
People tolerate Homosexuality and now Transgenre!This world is going down!A man becomes a woman and vice versa!And people see this normal ,freedom of speech,extreme Feminism,LGBT,soon people will marry teir own pets
Fortunatelly this law has not been accepted cos people should accept evertthng from people who want to impose their evil opinions!
People are right to be homophobic and whats being homophobic mean actually?A man who doesnt lke his like his pair!
But Homosexuality is forbidden in front of the Lord and we have to pray for these Lost people.I can understand that some people didnt have a religious faith or lost in their childhood which made them like this but pray for them in order to become normal. true this Law is made by POLITICS and its dangerous
for children who have two dads or two mums!
This Society forced people and families to accept everything and the worst!
YOUR Lord fucked up so many times. Levitucus 20 states the punishment for gays after your dumb god nuked Sodom and Gomorrah. They were there before and still are now and burying your dumb head in you book of fairy tales won't change that. Why did your stupid god have male/female couples, married before God who are infertile?
There is a conflict between many but not all faiths and LGBTQ acceptance. No one wants to say that or deal with it. In many cases they are in direct conflict. And that's the truth.