Why TikTok Music Promotion is Cringe (with James Marriott)
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"My generation had a drivers license by 14, a job by 16, moved out by 17. Your generation is still trying to define what a woman is and living in your parent's basement until 35." Tom MacDonald is 34. What generation does he think he is, exactly?
I don't have a driver's license, lived with my parents until I was 33 and I'm transing all my genders.
I'm also 2 years older than him, so I guess his generation is somehow sandwiched in there.
It’s incredibly cringe. He talks like he’s Gen X or a baby boomer when he’s a mid-millennial.
None of that was legal when he was a kid lmao
@@RobinTheBot yeah, in Canada you have to be 16 to get your license lol unless he’s counting the learner’s permit?
I have no clue what he's talking about. The amount of kids at my school who have driver's licenses and/or have a job is probably 65% and moving out in the current housing market and economic crisis is insanity
the fact that tom macdonald is talking about “his generation” like he’s 75 when he’s literally a millennial makes me want to end it all
Me too
@@hamsterstyle6152 as a fellow millennial im so so embarrassed
I am also a millennial. Can confirm that we did not, in fact, get our driver's license at 14.
@@lillianoftheveil looool seriously!! i have a cousin who got his permit at 14 but that was also in kansas so idk how they do it over there
@@lillianoftheveil You could get a learners permit at 14. That could be what he was talking about but that's not really a drivers license so it's a bit weird he called it that. And I don't think I know anyone my age who moved out at 17.
The first dude is not Post Malone.
That’s 37 year old Post Divorce
😭😭😭💀💀
Not even. He’s 34
Post Alone
More like Post a bit less and get a better haircut because it looks like there's four albino rats on top of ur head.
I’ll never get over the fact that a lot of these musicians who try to be “punk” or edgy are often conservative trumpies. Like just say you don’t understand what punk is 😭
LOL right?? You can’t be a rebel and a bootlicker at the same time!
FOR REAL!!!
well doesn't punk just mean outside of the mainstream? the reason punk was so left back in the 80s was because the mainstream was Reagan. I'm incredibly left wing myself but "punk" doesn't just mean "left wing".
@@thebasedgodmax1163 punk is a political movement- they want anarchy.. not trump
@@thebasedgodmax1163 yeah labels and movement change (esp through generations). The fact that he's getting lots of backlash kinda makes him punk, no? Lol
Him saying that his generation doesn't give a fuck about the things they don't agree with, while simultaneously making an entire video bitching about the things he doesn't agree with is the best. His lack of self awareness is comical.
That's literally MacDonald's whole schtick. Whining all the time. What a snowflake.
I was so surprised when they didn’t mention that like the entire time he’s just talking about how he doesn’t agree with anything
Conservative cognitive dissonance.
@@GabrielsEyebrowpTy Ty
I think he’s fully self aware. Guys like him are grifters
"My generation grew up on uncensored anything" is funny because if anything modern media is much more explicit than in the 90s or 80s if you don't count dated bigotry. Shows like The Boys would have a hard time existing during the Reagan era.
Holy shit if the boys even tried to air during the Reagan Era there would be riots in the streets by conservatives
Nurture profile pic, so based
He’s a millennial, he isn’t even old enough to remember what the Reagan era was really like.
@@mcgrey_ oh look it’s one of Tom’s little fascist fans
@@PeachysMom he’s a millennial?! bro he literally talks the way boomers talk to millennials 💀 i guess he learned from them that he is supposed to be angry at young people
fun fact, the tramp stamps tried to move to tumblr and they got trolled by the entirety of tumblr using archived memes off the site. it was absolutely hilarious
The fact that they even tried it with the tumblr community showed how insanely out of touch they were with the alternative scene
They were driven off tumblr by bugass. Love it
@@Robi-Chaud you’re laughing. the tramp stamps were driven off tumblr by bug ass and you’re laughing.
@@Robi-Chaud you’re laughing
Tramp stamps got chased off tumblr with bugass
And you’re laughing
🐜🍑
strange aeons has made a video about it if anyone wants to know more
Tom referring to the genocide of indigenous people as "native casualties" is WILD
It's so fucking insane I'm literally gobsmacked
tom mcdonald is yet another thing we as canadians have to apologize for
He's also apart of the generation he is complaining about 🤣
Did you ever notice most of the musical acts we have to apologize for didn't actually make it big in Canada, but blew up in the States. I feel like they owe us an apology, but then again, it's CanCon that rammed down our throats once they blew up down south. Can't wait for the CanCon algos to take over the 🇨🇦internet 🇨🇦🙉
He kind of is the human embodiment of abusing a culture while telling them it's because his culture knows better. Call him Tom CIRS
he’s Canadian???
It’s okay, you gave us Bryan Adams ❤
Finally someone talks about this. I HATE new tiktok music promotion. There are a few good ones, but like 95 percent of are horrible. Gabi is really the hero we needed.
@@TURBOMIKEIFY I remember kenny, didn’t know he made music now. I’ll have to check it out
Can you guess who the drummer is!?
@@TURBOMIKEIFY his names connor price and yea i agree i think he's cool but a lot of other ones are just 🤢
Jarvis did a good vid on this too
Don't sit through it, they will get the idea.
“Did I just invent the next big emo anthem?” *Disney music with the wildest set of words ever to exist in a sentence together*
It’s like if Austin from “Austin and Ally” fronted My Chemical Romance or Green Day. 😂
To be fair Disney pop is sonically inspired by Paramore's sound on Riot, imo
@@errix yah but disney music doesnt have the heart riot did and you can feel that
@@RainbowDemon I know, I love Riot. I'm just saying, that's where they seem to get their cue.
"My generation grew up with uncensored everything, your generation censors everything."
Homie has never met anyone who had unrestricted internet access as a kid. Shit wasn't censored and now we have trauma that we want to prevent others from getting 💀💀💀
yay PAIN OLYMPICA
How is the FBI getting big social media corporations to censor stories about politicians that could hurt their election chances preventing anyone’s trauma? How is social media corporations banning anyone who doesn’t follow their political narrative preventing anyone’s trauma?
I know shock sites were a thing.
Hell nah. I don’t rly want to protect anyone from the internet I want to protect the internet from corporations and government.
"your generation censors everything" do you think we Want this. i want youtubers to be able to say Fuck and not have the internet softened for advertisers. that's my idea of censorship. his is him being mad he can't call people slurs in the grocery store lmao
This, I'm sick of people catering to corporations in their guidelines!
People who throw slurs in grocery stores are TRULY the most oppressed 😢😢😭 /j
@@cursed-cat9126 it's my God given American right as a Canadian to say hateful slurs
Isn’t it the older people who censor things? I don’t get how he thinks Gen Z has any power in this area
@@cursed-cat9126 Unrelated because it wasn't a slur but it reminds me that the other day I went to Target and I was walking though the aisle with my brother when this little white girl points at us and says, "Look Mommy, MEXICANS!" My brother and I just looked at each other like 🤨 while the mom told the girl, "Yes, say hi!"
i want a subreddit to be born called “charlie puth music prompts” where people do the “what if there was a song that went do do doo, and a tsst tsst tsst, and then if i go oooououuu” and then talented people actually try to make a song from that point rather than the other way around
Lol I'd sub to that
This is kind of a genius idea hahaha
what if there was a song that went "Boom-da-da-mmm-dum-na-ee-ma
Da-boom-da-da-mmm-dum-na-ee-ma
Da-boom-da-da-mmm-dum-na-ee-ma
Da-boom-da-da-mmm-dum-na-ee-ma
Da-boom-da-da-mmm-dum-na-ee-ma
Da-boom-da-da-mmm-dum-na-ee-ma
Da-boom-da-da-mmm-dum-na-ee-ma
Da-boom-da-da-mmm-dum-na-ee-ma
Da-boom-da-da-mmm-dum-na-ee-ma
Da-boom-da-da-mmm-dum-na-ee-ma
Da-boom-da-da-mmm-dum-na-ee-ma
Da-boom-da-da-mmm-dum-na-ey"
what if there was a song that went “never gonna give you up. never gonna let you down. never gonna run around and desert you. never gonna make you cry. never gonna say goodbye. never gonna tell a lie and hurt you”
“what if there was a song where I literally crapped my pants and used it for the beat drop”
“my generation only wants the truth and the facts” * *blatantly lies to the camera* *
When did he lie lmao
@@eiavops4576“Your generation censors everything and my generation censors nothing“The older generations censors much more then the new ones
@@chaoticdudemakesbeats And what does the older generation censor?
@@eiavops4576 on tv shows there were usually no swearing
@@eiavops4576 and like all music was censored.Espescially rap songs
Only tumblr could chase away a music group by spamming the word “Bug Ass”
and the john green monologue… and the weed smoking girlfriends…. and the ENTIRETY of my immortal… i fuckin love tumblr
"Did that make you wet?" Ew wtf?? I know it's staged but just the idea of a stranger asking me that is so nasty
Even if they weren't a stranger 😭 what does that even have to do with the song
That song is not romantic or sexy, or even complimentary.
Music isn't even supposed to make you feel wet 🤣
If it does, then I don't know how else to help you
That was so much cringe like, sir...
the only song that’ll make me bricked up is anything by NIN
Tom MacDonald is 34 years old. He's a year YOUNGER than me, and I still managed to grow into a regular human being with empathy and an understanding of oppression. He doesn't get to blame "his generation" for being an asshole.
By the way he Said it he sounded 60 something
Nah he straight from the 1800s 💀
So you base your opinions on emotions
@@kweep1 empathy allows humans to connect, but based on you're bot like appearance you're clearly not human.
Oppression🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
7:08 THE FACT THAT YOU UNDERSTOOD THE BROKEN CLOCK THING AS IT WAS BROKEN BUT ALWAYS MOVING JUST AT THE WRNOG TIME, THATS HOW I UNDERSTOOD IT TOO LMAOO OMGG THIS MAKES SO MUCH MORE SENSE NOW
to be fair to you both! the hearing I've heard more is "a _stopped_ clock is right twice a day". a broken clock COULD absolutely be broken in the way you and gabi think!
Btw rage against the machine is extremely left leaning, fronted by poc, talking about politics in a really radical way and protested a lot, they aren't right wing at all, the right just doesn't understand what the lyrics to their most popular song is and use it but I promise if you look up rages songs you'll see their true views, idk why they get a bad rep
Literally was looking for a comment like this, all of their lyrics are so obviously anti- right bull
The last guy adding captions to the girl like "not her being shy
i feel like a lot of these little shit heads who do shit like that have no one to tell them no and just approach women like they’re cats.
I mean she looks kind of flattered and embarrassed but mostly in a "this is a weird encounter that I am really hoping will be over very soon so I can go back to my friends and laugh about it" kind of way, and then ending it by asking if it made her wet definitely 100% killed that and turned it into straight discomfort and mild fear like why the fuck would you even
I guess it js
Even if these creators don't really do this irl, there's gonna be kids who see this and are gonna take it as a green light to harass others
It's a tiktok pov mentality thing
"Eminem used to gay bash"
Eminem: "But if we can hump dead animals and antelopes
Then there's no reason that a man and another man can't elope"
Goofy behavior
he just said the f slur alot, he never said a bad thing about gay people. he even played stan with elton john
Also eminem is like close friends with elton john, even bought him dimond cock rings as a gift 😂
Literally what I thought 😂
He also is very good friends with Elton and sent him some nice “rings” for Elton and his husband
And the thing is it’s always seemed like partial satire cause em shits on everyone if every gender race sexuality and religion at some point
“My generation doesn’t give a fuck about things we don’t agree with” *proceeds to go on a rant about trans people minding their business*
At this point, cancel culture is just a concept people think is always happening around us all the time, but it isn’t practiced as much as people think.
Shane Dawson is a solid reminder that cancel culture doesn’t exist
7:41 “eminem used to gay bash and murder his mom” I like how this lyric implies that he didn’t just murder her once, he continuously murdered his mom as if it was an activity lmao like “he used to murder his mom” bro you can only murder someone once get better lyrics 💀
For real, he makes it sound like Eminem murdered 9-5 every day. Old Macdonald wouldn't be able to achieve that
@@judit5173 lmfao exactly
"Eminem used to murder his mom now he can't even murder his mom anymore >:( cancel culture gone crazy when are they gonna legalise matricide"
This is major misinformation, and I die at least 45 times a day and I'm perfectly fine 😊
I was thinking that
i really dislike when these creators use mental health or depression as a way to make people relate to a songs topic. it feels very disingenuous, like they know a huge amount of people who are spending a lot of time on the internet struggle with mental health and it feels like they’re exploiting that for money/attention and to seem “relatable”. i guess i can’t confirm that the creators don’t struggle with the same things, but it doesn’t feel like it’s coming from a real place, more of a jokey like, “OMG if you have anxiety, this song is for YOU!!!”
God, same! Like, some of my favourite songs of all time touch on these topics, but to forego all subtlety and just say "listen to this if ur mentally ill!" is so disengenuous. If they just touched on the general story/feeling of the song and let the audience make the connection to anxiety/depression or whatever themselves it would come across much more sincere.
Me too! It’s like mental illness is nothing but an opportunity to make money for them.
All my music is about those sorts of topics but when I thought about promoting on TikTok I just decided on overlaying my music over some of my art videos. 😂 Not very cool but at least it’s not cringe. I made the songs to vent and soothe others, not be famous, so that’s probably why my promotion methods are so lazy. 👀😂 I find songs by searching mental health related phrases or personal thoughts in Spotify and Genius lyrics. If people do the same for TikTok, they’ll find your music right? No need to lead with “Have you ever felt nervous? This song is for you!” Sounds like a bad infomercial. 😅
YES, but at least there's less songs about relationships this way lmao
I think it is way more genuine when such songs are in the metal/rock genre. Panic Attacks, Brittle, Happy Hurts and Under The Knife are great songs by a band called Icon For Hire. Every single song is written about something the singer struggles with. Like with Under The Knife it starts with some universal experience but with the rap part she is directly talking to someone who needs to hear it. In Need Of Medicine alongside other Smash into Pieces songs are also a good example. I love songs about mental health issues when I know that it's genuine.
The irony of the first guy saying his generation doesn't give a shit about stuff they don't agree with, while literally whining about stuff he doesn't agree with
I believe the "Charlie Puth" method works so well (not only in Music) because it gives viewers that false sense of accomplishment that "i can turn an idea into something in a matter of minutes, If I put my mind to it"
When it may actually take hours and then we throw away the idea cuz we hate it.
seeing James not bark and growl in a video just healed my entire world (still gonna watch every stream tho)
i had been pretending that wasn't a thing
he still gave us some uwu shenanigans though😂
I know right 🤣
as somebody unfamiliar with James, what?
@@olaa.008 i dont think i'll be able to catch him live anytime soon but maybe i'll check out a vod or something, thx 4 recommendation
1:15 “My generation grew up on uncensored everything.“ Yeah maybe except gay couples, divorce, even remotely s3xy content, or anything taboo in general. But ok
“oh my god, karen, you can’t just ask someone if they’re wet”
ESPECIALLY after u insulted their tattoos
The best part is that "kids these days" happens to *every.* *generation.* Yes it's important to learn from the wisdom of older generations, but we've been continously improving as humans as time goes on. It's equally important to listen to the passion of youth. Their critiques may sting, but we also have more to learn about life.
Theres literally medieval texts where people complain that their students are too rowdy and dont respect elders. That the enjoy music and leisure too much and that their soft.
Shit doesnt change
@@markbaker4425 yes I was just going to say they’ve found similar missives from Ancient Greece!!
brent rivera has entered the chat
I shall choose to not continue this vicious cycle
@@markbaker4425I remember seeing something about an early 1900s (date may be wrong) school teacher complaining that "these young kids don't know how to use a chalkboard, what'll they do when they run out of paper?"
I like how Tom McDonald straight up lies, no you can't get your driver's license at 14 in BC, Canada (where he is from)
I thought he was from Alberta
@@haileystangowitz4202 he is originally from bc then ended up in Alberta, even still alberta driving age is 15
I think South Dakota is the youngest place where you can at 14 and 9 months... could be wrong tho
Edit: I was! You can get a provisional license at 14 in SD, but you have to be 16 to get behind the wheel alone.
@Polaris Pictures Even if it's true, there are still like 4 people in South Dakota, which is not nearly enough to be used as a standard in some "my generation" tory pandering video.
💀bro I love how you know for a fact theirs only four people in SD
OMG Gabi finally learning what the “broken clock” saying was actually about is the most adorable thing ever! Lol
I love seeing artists just playing their song and that's the whole video. It feels more genuine and it adds new value by giving people a "live" version of the song, and they can be excited for what will be different in a produced version when it's released
I saw a YT short yesterday of JAX with a kid she says she babysits, and in it she was like, "yesterday the kid I babysit got made fun of for how she looks so then I wrote this song for her, and now I am gonna sing it to her!" and then she goes on to play the kid the very fully produced version of Victoria's Secret. Modern music promotion is wild.
I saw a short yesterday of her literally vandalizing a scale in her hotel room to promote her new song. Wtf
Hey raz how’s the woman you live with?
I saw that on reels, shorts, everywhere. I thought it was real, is it not? So now it's okay to lie to promote music? ;_;
God JAX annoys me so much
That child looked so confused and that she was losing the will to live. So awkward lmao x
The funniest thing is that Tom MacDonald censors the swear words in his music videos as well 💀 you can't even blame that on the platform
my favorite tramp stamps verse is "gone away is my real dad, here to stay is my stepdad" because its so transparently bait
8:00 this is like rage against the machine, but in defense of the machine
A more accurate name for Tom macdonald is “rage in favor of the machine”
"Ragesuck off the Machine"
"Raging bootlicker of the machine"
When ever anyone talks about the good ol days when stuff was not so censored I am livid because they censored sailor moon and gave us incestuous cousins instead of a beautiful wholesome lesbian couple because that's better?
They're girls, and cousins too!!
Censorship was arguably worse back in the 80's and 90's for many reasons
There was an episode of Seinfeld where they couldn't explicitly mention masturbation. Nowadays the average adult comedy will casually mention the act of jerking off with no censorship whatsoever
There was a narrative arc in I Love Lucy about being pregnant, and they weren't allowed to say the word "pregnant" because of decency or whatever the fuck they were on about in the 1950s. This guy whining about censorship has no idea what he's talking about.
I'm not a huge fan of censorship, but I wouldn't mind if they'd have blurred those shitty face tattoos.
They couldn’t even show Lucy and Ricky sleeping in the same bed on I Love Lucy because it was considered indecent at that time on TV, and now they have full on sex scenes and definitely people sharing beds on TV shows so censorship has come far from that time.
3:42 Tom your parents generations literally INVENTED doing that.
Youre grandparents LIVED in a time where all you did was judge of race and sex ☠️ what is he on about???
lewis capaldi is the only person who is allowed to do this cause he takes the piss out of it the whole time and it is hilarious
wow.. not staring at your iphone in the 90s.. what an accomplishment. that geezer deserves a medal!
Yeah, I'm still waiting for someone to give me credit for not using the internet in 1990.
But guys we didn’t censor anything…
I was to busy working at 5 years old to use the Internet this generation will never understand 😑
@@daniellopezparra6430 absolutely pathetic. I started working the day I was born.
@@fart63You emerged from the womb with a full lumberjack beard and cut your own umbilical cord
Seeing Gabi learn how a common phrase works is the highlight of this video
I appreciated that because i thought the same as her for a long time and was too shocked when I found out its real meaning 💀💀
I learned with her cause I didn't get it before this video 😭
i’m glad multiple people also had the experience of learning with gabi
“Your generation is still trying to decide what a woman is and living in your parents basement until your 35” sir. The oldest a gen z can be is like 26.
“The facts don’t care about your feeling... they only care about mine.” 😂😂😂
Tom McDonald is such a funny man because my mom is older than him and is somehow less transphobic, less rude, and much less "back in my day" like no Tomathy, it's not your generation, it's just you
i grew up in baltimore city during the time when EVERYONE wanted to be a rapper and were just randomly handing out their CD's near the subway stations and that was less annoying than tiktok music promotion.
People still do that in Los Angeles
@Danny Mendez i believe it, people still do it here in atlanta too, everybody wants to move here and "follow their dreams"🥲
I mean at least you get something out of that and there's a level of authenticity you know like they're just trying to get their music heard and they're actually putting in the work to do that, relying on shitty overused disingenuous tiktok formats to make an algorithm latch onto your song and force feed it to thousands of people just feels lazy and inauthentic
We’re the CDs any good?
well i would listen to them
I actually really like watching someone write and play music. My partner plays guitar and electric while we're on call and it's so fun to see their brain work. So I say more real behind the scenes as music promos.
15:20, it’s very common in the rap community for it to go that way. I’m an engineer, and I have the instrumental loaded, auto tune in key the second the artist walks in and we write it together as we go
Tom MacDonald seems like the kind of guy who would've made those "SO WHY DO GOOD GIRLS LIKE BAD GUUUYS" tiktoks when they were a thing
what’s fucked up about this is that the artist of that song Ronnie Radke
a) also made “MY LIFE IS LIKE A VIDEO GAME,,”
b) is (i think??) a pretty similar kind of person
@@thatoneguy9582yeah Ronald Radkonald is right wing I think and screeches on twitter.
No cause Tom MacDonald literally being a millennial and talking like a Booker is killing me. I hate the whole insult the new and younger generation thing. Also him saying "his generation doesn't care about the things he doesn't agree with" but also making a whole video bashing the younger generation because he doesn't agree with them.
Boomer*
its so hard to not fall in the hipster mentality when people make music like this
One of the biggest issues with political musicians is that they just state their political ideologies to a beat
This is one reason I think Beyoncé's Formation and Freedom are so great (and were so well received). At no point does she ever say "let's all be anti-racist, anti-xenophobic and fight the power" to an 808. With Freedom specifically, it's poetry like "imma rain on this bitter love, tell the sweet I'm new/I'm telling these tears go and fall away/Oh, may the last one burst into flames". That could apply to anything, but context clues tell you what she's talking about and allow you to feel the passion without feeling preached at. Also, the songs are just fun and uplifting.
It depends how you do it.
Ratm is so on the nose but its great. So is a lot of punk like minor threat
idk bro I think bo burnham does a good job with that haha
Same with political comedians.
@@markbaker4425 or System of a Down using nonsensical lyrics and wacky metaphors to deliver the message
Tom Macdonald is 34. He’s part of the generation he’s complaining about
Melinnials? (Cause I SWEAR it’s them it always is)
Yeah, he’s a millennial. He is PART of that generation. He’s not a 78 year old man, vegetating on the couch while watching Tucker Carlson.
WHAT????
My favorite example of the tiktok promo is the guy goes “do you guys ever have that one girl that just got away” and the FIRST line of the song is “this is about the girl that got away”
As an independent musician, I hate that the only way I can promote my work is by
reducing it to short form content. When 1 make a song 2-3 minutes long, I actually
want people to hear the whole thing, not just 15s of it. The ability to self-produce, promote, and distribute all from a bedroom/through a phone has made music WAY more accessible which is great! But it sucks that pandering to social media is now just as
important as the quality of a song if you want it to get heard.
we don't give a f about the things we don't agree with, yet makes a whole tiktok about the things he doesn't agree with.
not only that, but goes on to make SONGS about what he disagrees with and complains in them like… why u so sensitive tom i thought you didn’t care about what you didn’t agree with 😭
Trying to promote my music on TikTok led to more egodeath than I could’ve ever expected. Oddly enough, I’ve found it’s a lot easier for me to manage others. It’s given me a healthier degree of separation between me and how I go about content creation for myself and my clients.
Your music gets less than a thousand views though, you have to promote on TikTok because no one knows who you are yet.
@@BadgerOfTheSea "TikTok led to more egodeath than I could’ve ever expected" ... as in wasn't good for my mental health so I stepped away from my own projects for now and redirected by managing others instead. I'll get back to my own projects when I'm ready but for now I'm just stating how it's been more fulfilling helping others as of late.
@@KrispyDeRato ugh I tried self promotion as well, two years in I lost all drive and joy I used to have in music. Its just so tedious, pouring so much time and resources into something that doesn't go anywhere... Maybe I can also focus more on others' projects, or find a way to focus on the fun.
@@Dahlily it can be easy to forget why we do music in the first place sometimes, but there is always a way to fall in love with it again and you can find it! There’s always someone out there who can use your knowledge and services
egodeath? what's that and what happened?
His generation said video games causes violence
14:43 Okay, so skit A is the school one and skit B is the producer one.
So skit B is poking fun at the other skits, including skit A, but skit B is portrayed as the conception of the song for skit A, meaning skit A and any other skits promoting the song don't exist yet, but skit B still makes a reference to the song in skit A, so skit B referenced skit A and any other skits promoting the song while it didn't exist, skit A simply shows the kid _using_ the song, and skit A became a reality using the song that the producer joked about and inspired. Please it's 3:58 am I can't do this
“there’s rappers pushing xanax at the top of the billboard”
i’m sorry, would you like us to censor them for you?
i completely thought the same thing as gabi about the broken clock thing but never questioned how it made sense, i just accepted it as a fact
NO CAUSE LIKE SAME
OMG literally same lmao, I was always so confused but I'd just brush it off lol
I've heard stopped clock instead of broken, I think it changed over time to make less sense
the full phrase actually makes a bit more sense (although I don't remember the exact wording) since it goes smth like "a broken clock is right twice a day but one that's a minute off is never right" but with better wording
@@miglek9613 this makes all the sense
It's been hard for me to explain to some people exactly WHY this part of Tiktok bugs the shit out of me, but both of you were hitting a lot of the highlights. It's not that all of the music is bad, or that I don't want small artists to have a way to break through the noise re: the music landscape being so crowded and often gatekept by industry professionals. But the disingenuous nature of it all turns me off so quickly!
(Though some of that may also come from being too close to how the sausage gets made, as James said. I work in video production, so I've worked on a lot of music videos and overheard artists making their Tiktoks 10 times in a row until they get it just right in the green room or on set, or overheard a manager say they "need" to make a Tiktok to post today essentially to fill a quota. It takes away a lot of the sparkly, entertaining veneer of actually having to MAKE those videos.)
'mY geNeraTion" "yOur gEneRation" bros talking like my 80+ grandparents
Isnt he like 35 talking like he was born in the 1930s 😭
Tom MacDonald is also only 34 lol. He's a millennial, and not even a very old one. Sure you could say his criticisms are aimed at gen z, but he's talking like he's gen x and not a millennial- who have had these criticisms aimed at them for the last decade.
That fact that James mentioned where music promoted on tiktok isn't allowed to just have a moment is so true! I feel like it's so rare to find a song I actually like though tiktok, it's either just that one section that's good and the rest is so disjointed it might as well be from another song, or it's super repetitive. Maybe like 1/10 or 1/20 are songs I actually end up liking the whole thing. It's genuinely annoying.
Fr like when I listen to the whole song, they throw me off untill that good part 💀
how are these people not absolutely, mortifyingly embarassed. i literally couldnt
I have many mental problems, the most basic of which widdle down to depression, anxiety, and ADHD. I never like music that is so superficial about these mental illnesses because honestly, I fucking hate having these issues. It isn't fun, it isn't quirky, it's hell. I've been taking Adderall before I knew who my country's first president was. I cannot function properly in social settings, which doesn't mean I just angstly sit in the corner like a Wattpad character, it means I'm trying to talk to people and they don't fucking like me because I'm being annoying to them. I suffer everyday trying to just exist and the last thing I wanna hear about is my issues. I listen to music written about love, heartbreak, divorce, death, or literally any other thing besides my mental illnesses. The closest is The Lullaby by The Cure, but that song is only theorized to be about mental illness, it's really about a spider eating people. I hate mental illness music, write something more original than the textbook definition of a generalized group of people.
“My generation has-“ WOW so crazy that generations are completely different and evolve from the generation before the,… absolute insanity, who would’ve thought
thank youuuu lmao like!
also the "my generation shot guns and went camping", no that's what you and your buddies did. everyone had different interests then, same as now.
@@beccas5171 MY generation (my group of three friends) used to PICK UP CHICKS (awkwardly flirt with them and then cry and run away) and had RESPECT FOR OUR COUNTRY (i joined rotc and got an A) men these days are PUSSIES (care for others)
He's 34, he was 18 in 2006! 🤣
whoa time is moving forward and society is continually advancing? who woulda thought!
i think the sad thing is a lot of artists even BIG artists have to promote on tiktok like contractually due to how popular it is
oh james is talking about it
First guy was like “your generation can’t decide which bathroom to use” then said “your generation harasses trans people and my generation doesn’t care” like this man is a “musician” but can’t even write a script that doesn’t contradict hims😂
“We want the truth and the facts, no matter how uncomfortable” the ‘uncomfortable’ fact is that lgbt people have been around for as long as people exist. It isn’t even only humanity, homoromanticism has been found in many many species, yet homophobia in only one. Celebrate the progress of human rights, no matter what you’re used to.
I’d like to point out that the ‘a broken clock bring right twice a day’ is originally ‘a stopped clock’ which probably clears it up
Btw the tramp stamps were originally on tumblr but got “bullied” off through troll asks saying “BUG ASS”
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i like that gabi's idea of a broken clock is a clock that has the wrong time, that's adorable.
But it makes sense
Is that not what a broken clock is😨😨😨
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A "broken clock" talks about an analog, round clock that doesn't move it's hands anymore.
That's why it's "right twice a day". Because the clock only shows one time e.g. 1. And that happens twice a day, 1am and 1pm.
"Wrong time" can also mean the clock is ahead or behind time. But that clock is not broken, because it still runs. And it's always wrong, never right.
So broken clock =/= wrong time in general.
Broken clock == dead clock == stopped on certain time == wrong 23 hours and 58 minutes of the day == right 2 minutes of the day.
Similar, but not the same. And doean't work with digital clocks. They just switch off if the battery is empty.
I can't wait for the trend of calling everything "cringe" ends because often it is just a really shallow way to shame people for sheerly existing in their own life. Maybe I'm too old, but it just feels like everyone spends way too much time evaluating how to exist in a way that won't have them made fun of and made viral in a harmful way, while also being told it is gross to be inauthentic but also gross to be authentic. How does anyone win? Cringe culture is part of what I feel is destroying our mental health and ability to experience authentic joy.
8:59 Foreshadowing intensifies
Gabi you have been absolutely popping off with these collabs lately! We appreciate y'all's hard work!!
“My generation grew up on uncensored everything… BEFORE the Hayes Code!!” 😂
9:22 bros acting like eating turkey on Thanksgiving is illegal now 😭😭
To go back on the thing with songs being shorter now, I am in a modern music school, and I play with a band (that I didn't choose), most of the people with me are the classic 'tiktok kids'. With our tutor, we were discovering the new song we now have to learn and it's 4.20 minutes long. All of the others said that it was too long, that a good music now is 2 minutes long, and that anything longer than 3 minutes quickly becomes boring... I don't have tiktok, I listen to all kinds of songs, and I saw our tutor being desperate with them, it's really stupid
I love when conservatives complain about cancel culture as if it's a thing that exists. It ain't cancel culture, it's accountability culture.
Yeah the only actual cancellation that ever comes to my mind is The Dixie Chicks who were cancelled by the conservatives lol.
Bro Dave Chappelle can't make a joke without some one trying to kill him 🤣 It's a thing you just reword it differently. You're just apart of the other side
@@MrBlue11900 That's crazy that Chappelle was cancelled, I could've sworn he still had sold out shows and movie deals, where have I been!
Jokes aside, Dave Chappelle gets criticized because he is transphobic, he makes transphobic "jokes" and he defends them because he's transphobic. I'm not saying he should get death threats of course, but he should stop and look at what he has become and change as a person.
@@rubyxaruby he's also said anti Semitic things while defending Kanye not too long ago
@@MrBlue11900 Dave Chapelle literally just had a show in my state. And I didn't hear anything about a single assassination attempt. Are you getting him confused with another black man like Martin Luther King Jr.?
i love it when videos end abruptly like this it’s so fresh and i’m being 100% serious. we need more videos that simply stop when they are over. thank you gabi belle
Gabi, THANK GOD! I ALWAYS misunderstood the “broken clock” think the same way you did! I feel way less stupid about it now
A coworker old white lady recommended Tom Macdonald then the nicer old white lady receptionist apologized to me when she looked up who that was
Imagine apologizing because someone else recommended someone an artist who has political opinions that you don’t agree with, hilarious
"This guy is Rage Against The Machine, but worse" nah this guy is Rage For The Machine
LOL PERFECT 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Rage For The Machine is basically what the original band has become anyway
Oh my god, I also didn’t get the broken clock thing until just now. I had the same thought process as you. And James Marriott of all people was the one who had to explain it so I could understand
4:41 macklemore [cuts to macaroni and cheese ad saying LITTLE EFFORT right of the bat] I'm sorry but that ABSOLUTELY KILLED ME I for sure thought you edited in, but it was AN ACTUAL AD!
I think the worst part is some (read : not all) tiktok musicians are not that bad, but their advertising is so cringey its hard to bear.
19:20 I think Jame's story here is actually a really important piece of the puzzle. I make random IG videos of my modeling projects that I do and they never get any attention outside of my friends, but one day as a joke I made a sped-up video with some cheerful music under it to look in the style of 5 minute craft type videos, and it got thousands of views. And I was pretty mad, actually. It felt like all my hard work of regular videos was a waste of time if all I really had to do was throw up some crap that took less than 5 minutes to make. I never made one like that again. So I think some of these people may have gone down a similar path where a they made a joke that accidentally worked, but they just decided to keep running with it. And sometimes I can't blame them for it.
5:40 I know exactly who Tom McDonald appeals to: my dad, who thinks he's progressive and accepting but is also a Trump supporter. He thinks being progressive just means being not racist and he's that too. He's the guy who thinks feminism has gone too far and now men are the ones being oppressed
Honestly I’ve been thinking about that clock adage a lot lately and I’m glad James was able to clear it up
charlie puth is basically tryna do what ppl think making music is like for someone with perfect pitch
The problem is that a lot of people do what they think they should be doing to promote on TikTok (ie: basic promo, singing to the cam videos, skits, “spontaneous” videos). In reality, they should be telling a story of the song, how the song connects to influences, the process behind it, etc. It feels like people are actively making bad promos to get boosted by the cringe factor, instead of making solid content! (This isn’t a totality statement either)
I find it funny when Tom MacDonald says “your generation censors everything” bc Gen Z doesn’t control Gen Z media. Tom MacDonald’s generation does, so if anything, they’re the ones censoring stuff
Tom MacDonald is five months younger than I am and from the same province. He did not get his license at 14.
“My generation grew up on uncensored everything…”
Yeah, my toddler loves classic Looney Tunes and it taught him to say shut up so…
tysm for making this video, as someone who stopped making music because the whole management making you do tiktok thing destroyed my mental health.... this was awesome to hear and made me feel less crazy