You are absolutley the best om YT. The rest give only bits and pieces,I have spent countless hours looking for a FULL explaination. Thank you very much!!
Nice tests. Just a suggestion, you could spray the mist over a plate glass and see the droplets in a microscope in higher resolution and measurement accuracy. Using this you could also optimize the spray time, as longer spray the droplets tend to joint and become bigger.
Yes I have the same thought as well, those DSLR camera touching microscopic water droplets is not the best thing to do, would damage the camera and seems overly complicated and super expensive.
I like your logical based approach, which you back up with the evidence to support your hypothesizes. By presenting the influences of the factors involved in the complete system, you increase the efficiency, while lowering the maintenance involved in keeping a system running. Keep the videos coming! Live long and prosper.
@@HighTechGardener quick question, can a piezoelectric device be used to generate de mist? will the fog generated by the piezo carry the heavy nutrient molecules?
@@HighTechGardener because of reduced cost. plus I wouldn't want to risk setting up a pressure tank right next to where I sleep (literally next to my bed). also, the piezoelectric mist generator allows for a greater degree of control,, heat might be an issue but I can also run a 15w peltier cell inside de water tank to cool the nutrient solution to a desired temp. what do you think?
Hey Gabriel, I understand your concerns. However, you need to realize we pressure to 150 psi max. These tanks are designed to handle 200+ psi. There's really no threat of a blowup. The pumps I use can't ever go above 150 psi. So there is no worries of an explosion . Using my technology, I can design it so that it's almost silent running while you sleep. HPA is cool stuff that is not being used to its full potential. Keep watch the videos and learn. Thanks for being a subscriber.
Flat out great effort to express the facts before well earned money is burned on the wrong purchase and well received, thx so much for your guideance and shared knowledge and taking my grow system to a greater level.
I love this channel, I love the information you present. I am seriously interested in getting started in HP Aeroponics. I commend your efforts on this research you are attempting. However I don't think that your results will be as accurate as you may think. I hope I'm wrong. My thinking is that your images are not tack sharp. (a photography term) When an image is out of focus even just a little it will change the size of the object. As an example, I work security and we have a camera that when moved can see a 3/4" conduit in front of the lens. With the camera zoomed out it covers a good portion of the view. However when you zoom in still with the conduit still in the same place you can now see what was behind that conduit. Because it is out of focus. You still get a dark area where the conduit is though. So if the drops of the mist aren't in focus completely you will get the same affect, just on a smaller scale. If you really want to try this again with better equipment. I would recommend a spark gap flash, macro lens and all lights out. As I said earlier. This channel is great. I see a year ago was your last video. I hope you post more videos in the "NEAR" 😉 future. Thanks
If you decide to do another test, allow me to suggest an alternative methodology. Buy a piece of 270 mesh, which is a 53 Micron opening. Fire a 1 second blast at the mesh and have a Target behind it so that you will be able to see how much goes through not only in the Target but you can also time a camera shot correspond to the first drops that make it through the mesh. Obviously the much would have to be blown off and be completely cleared of water between tests because the water will quickly clog the mesh. Coloring the water would also help.
Thank you so much Lee, for all the hard work you're putting into this series. I'm hooked. And I am interested in your Calculator, when it is completed. Have almost all of the equipment I will need to build my garden and I look forward to using the knowledge compiled by you and placed at our disposal.
Hey mister Lee, you are an inspiration! Thanks again for the well made video, very informative! I was wondering, how long have you been using the tefen nozzles without they got clogged? I am very curious about the durabillity of the nozzles. Would like to hear from you!
@@HighTechGardenerThanks so much for your reply! By any chance, can you give an estimation on how many fail after 12 months and how do you think they fail? Is it clogging or are the nozzles damaged in some way? Kind regards, Emiel
It doesn't seem you really say exactly which one you tested. It seems there's a few variations of the 21105 tip. Which *color* of tefen and gph nozzle is it around 32 min in??
Did you watch Part 1 of this video? The only true way to know is to test it. There are too many variables in the droplet production from a nozzle. Thanks for asking
I watched your videos, really very informative. You are doing a great work. I also interesting in HPA. Could you please tell me, which pump i have to buy, to use it with nozzles you suggested. Could you please tell me what pump you use. Thank you very much for your great job
typically you dont, on a high pressure system you mist for as little as a second, or less sometimes, just enough to get the roots wet, you dont spray long enough to make much waste
Hello High tech gardener. Are the cream Tefen nozzles from pro water parts the non drip style of nozzle? I saw you had a link to them on your website as the 21105 model number
Hello, thanks for all the information you provide. I have some doubts that I can't find answers. How many microns must the filters have? I understand that if they are few microns they can retain the nutrient solution. I have seen many systems in which the roots soon reach the soil of the container. Can nebulizers be placed on top of the growth chamber? I've been looking for pressurized tanks like yours, but all the ones I find support only 50-60 psi. I have seen that they are tanks for reverse osmosis and do not reach high pressures. I need a 130-160 psi pressurized tank for it to work comfortably, correct?
Hi Lee! First of all thank you so much for your research and information. Congratulations for your channel. I hope all the best to you in the future. I got one question. So this nozzle performance is only when one nozzle is used. How about when I used more than one nozzle? Will it have the same performance (microns and psi)? This is assuming for larger scale aeroponics system,
Rafael, You're welcome my friend. The short answer is yes for multiple nozzles, IF you use a pressure tank in the design. The Aeroponics Calculator will help with your design.
@@HighTechGardener Thank you for your answer! However, my concern is how many misters can be supplied effectively (with 100psi) by one pressure tank? Is there any limit? or the number doesn't really matter?
Hello everyone, I'm a newbie and I'm looking to DIY a high pressure aeropontic 5 gallon system for various types of growing. Spinach, kale, tomatoes, cucumbers, herbs, etc. so I'd like to get a listing of what exactly I'll need and what is the best so not to make any mistakes and lose hard earned money. I watched the video, but I didn't hear the name or model of the nozzle you thought was best. Could you please provide the name and model. Also, what do you think is the best pre-filtered pump?
Hi Kimberly, Most of your questions are answered in my HPA basic course: aeroponicsdiy.com/free-aeroponics-video-course/ Thanks for your comment and the like.
Interesting work. Have you tried any of the models that have a built-in filter on the nozzle itself? Also, I looked at the Tefen website, and I see no info about whether that nozzle is FDA approved or if it is food safe. Did you find any info on that?
The nozzle used is made from Acetal and used in supermarkets vegetable. You won't find an FDA designation from the manufacturer. However, Acetal materials can be FDA and NSF compliant below 50C (122F). Hope that helps. Thanks for the question.
I despise those types of suppliers that only do B2B sales. What in the hell is wrong with them? Are they just thinking that C2B is not worth their time at all? I am not sure I can wrap my head around that. At least not for this particular product.
@@ericgosh826 I don't feel like putting my own words down right now, so here is some copy and paste for you: "B2B sales have more of a limited reach considering the deals occur solely between businesses, thus the buying pool isn’t as open as B2C. You’ve also got to take into consideration that whilst average order values are much higher in the B2B space, it’s much harder to secure these deals and generate long lasting relationships. It can also be a really difficult game for small and medium sized business, as each individual wholesaler is crucial to your bottom line: the loss of one long standing partnership could be detrimental to your revenue sheets. Imagine you’re a supplier of clothes for 5 different businesses, each ordering thousands of items every quarter. If one of these wholesalers goes bust and pulls out, your bottom line will suffer directly. Finding a new customer to make up for it won’t be easy, or quick." b2b only people also might struggle with fielding never ending requests for scale discounts and other perks for wholesale b2b buyers, finding themselves racing to the bottom. As usual, only big players can survive here. And to answer your question, I don't like putting all of my eggs in one basket, so I would much rather have 1000 customers, even though your whole premise is far too simplistic, and nothing in business is that simple. And I still hate b2b only, because I, like every other individual on earth, am a consumer.
As a wholesaler if you undercut your bulk buyers who are reselling your product you will hurt their business and so they may choose not to do business with you anymore and your wholesale business can suffer. So most wholesalers don’t also sell piecemeal. They leave that to the retailers.
I love this guy... Star Trek... gardening.. I'm so happy
Hi Jack,
Welcome aboard!
Let's go where no Gardener has gone before, you are the future.
You are absolutley the best om YT.
The rest give only bits and pieces,I have spent countless
hours looking for a FULL explaination.
Thank you very much!!
Hey Rex,
You're the best too. You took time to thank me.
You're Welcome my friend.
Nice tests. Just a suggestion, you could spray the mist over a plate glass and see the droplets in a microscope in higher resolution and measurement accuracy. Using this you could also optimize the spray time, as longer spray the droplets tend to joint and become bigger.
Hi Julio,
I like your suggestion. Maybe a future video.
Thank you very much
Yes I have the same thought as well, those DSLR camera touching microscopic water droplets is not the best thing to do, would damage the camera and seems overly complicated and super expensive.
I like your logical based approach, which you back up with the evidence to support your hypothesizes. By presenting the influences of the factors involved in the complete system, you increase the efficiency, while lowering the maintenance involved in keeping a system running. Keep the videos coming! Live long and prosper.
Excellent work. Your videos are a must watch especially for a novice like me.Thank You
been waiting on this video!!! thought you weren't coming back, glad to see I was wrong.
keep it up!!
Thanks for the encouraging words. There's more to come.
@@HighTechGardener quick question, can a piezoelectric device be used to generate de mist? will the fog generated by the piezo carry the heavy nutrient molecules?
@@gabrielocampo3769 Before I answer your question, let me ask you a question. Why piezoelectric?
@@HighTechGardener because of reduced cost. plus I wouldn't want to risk setting up a pressure tank right next to where I sleep (literally next to my bed). also, the piezoelectric mist generator allows for a greater degree of control,, heat might be an issue but I can also run a 15w peltier cell inside de water tank to cool the nutrient solution to a desired temp. what do you think?
Hey Gabriel, I understand your concerns. However, you need to realize we pressure to 150 psi max. These tanks are designed to handle 200+ psi. There's really no threat of a blowup. The pumps I use can't ever go above 150 psi. So there is no worries of an explosion . Using my technology, I can design it so that it's almost silent running while you sleep. HPA is cool stuff that is not being used to its full potential. Keep watch the videos and learn. Thanks for being a subscriber.
Mr Lee, you are awesome , thank you so much for all your effort in this channel, i love all this information, i am going trough all videos.
Flat out great effort to express the facts before well earned money is burned on the wrong purchase and well received, thx so much for your guideance and shared knowledge and taking my grow system to a greater level.
Glad it was helpful! Welcome to the future my friend.
I love this channel, I love the information you present. I am seriously interested in getting started in HP Aeroponics. I commend your efforts on this research you are attempting. However I don't think that your results will be as accurate as you may think. I hope I'm wrong. My thinking is that your images are not tack sharp. (a photography term) When an image is out of focus even just a little it will change the size of the object. As an example, I work security and we have a camera that when moved can see a 3/4" conduit in front of the lens. With the camera zoomed out it covers a good portion of the view. However when you zoom in still with the conduit still in the same place you can now see what was behind that conduit. Because it is out of focus. You still get a dark area where the conduit is though. So if the drops of the mist aren't in focus completely you will get the same affect, just on a smaller scale. If you really want to try this again with better equipment. I would recommend a spark gap flash, macro lens and all lights out. As I said earlier. This channel is great. I see a year ago was your last video. I hope you post more videos in the "NEAR" 😉 future. Thanks
If you decide to do another test, allow me to suggest an alternative methodology. Buy a piece of 270 mesh, which is a 53 Micron opening. Fire a 1 second blast at the mesh and have a Target behind it so that you will be able to see how much goes through not only in the Target but you can also time a camera shot correspond to the first drops that make it through the mesh. Obviously the much would have to be blown off and be completely cleared of water between tests because the water will quickly clog the mesh. Coloring the water would also help.
Thanks for sharing a different method to determine droplet sizes.
Thank you so much for these videos!! I learned so much!
Thanks, this is very useful information
Thank you so much Lee, for all the hard work you're putting into this series. I'm hooked. And I am interested in your Calculator, when it is completed. Have almost all of the equipment I will need to build my garden and I look forward to using the knowledge compiled by you and placed at our disposal.
Thanks Wilhelm. You're very welcome. I look forward to your feedback on the calculator.
I would like to thank you, your videos are helping me a lot to understand how this high pressure system works. Thanks.
I'm glad to help. And you're so very welcome.
Hey mister Lee, you are an inspiration! Thanks again for the well made video, very informative!
I was wondering, how long have you been using the tefen nozzles without they got clogged? I am very curious about the durabillity of the nozzles.
Would like to hear from you!
I have some in service for 12 months plus. I just replace them when they fail.
@@HighTechGardenerThanks so much for your reply! By any chance, can you give an estimation on how many fail after 12 months and how do you think they fail? Is it clogging or are the nozzles damaged in some way? Kind regards, Emiel
Thank you for making these. I need them more often I’m trying to build my system
You're welcome my friend.
High Tech Gardener can you make a video further explaining about the accumulator and how to set it up
@Andy Hastings Please watch the next video for the answer. Thanks again for your interest
It doesn't seem you really say exactly which one you tested. It seems there's a few variations of the 21105 tip. Which *color* of tefen and gph nozzle is it around 32 min in??
Hello,
I am very interested in finding more information.
Please let me hear further from you at your earliest convenience
Thank you.
Best regards.
Thank you for aeroponic science from Ukraine. God bless
I like what you are doing. I’d like to know more about celonoids and how we can automate the system more.
Sign up for my course at website
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Could an ultrasonic cleaner be used to clean nozzles without damaging them? Great videos! Thank you
I need to test that out.
Thanks for the suggestion.
I bet if you increase contrast and brightness, you'll see more.
Would a 0.1 mm nozzle @ 100 PSI create the right size of droplets?
Did you watch Part 1 of this video? The only true way to know is to test it. There are too many variables in the droplet production from a nozzle. Thanks for asking
Wouldn't depth effect the droplet sizes? It doesn't seem as through you are taking that into consideration?
so the canopy of the plant does it require any misting?
I must have missed something. How do you know that the droplets and the width measurement of the human hair are in the same plane?
Whatbrand is the good generic nozzle though?
I watched your videos, really very informative. You are doing a great work.
I also interesting in HPA. Could you please tell me, which pump i have to buy, to use it with nozzles you suggested. Could you please tell me what pump you use.
Thank you very much for your great job
Hey Pakur,
The pump selection is coming in a future video.
Thanks for the kind words
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LOL sometimes science is accidental, Loved the hair bit hahahah
how do you recirculate nutrient waste?
typically you dont, on a high pressure system you mist for as little as a second, or less sometimes, just enough to get the roots wet, you dont spray long enough to make much waste
@@sportbikeguy9875 thank you for your input
Hello High tech gardener. Are the cream Tefen nozzles from pro water parts the non drip style of nozzle? I saw you had a link to them on your website as the 21105 model number
No. They are not the non drip.
Hello, thanks for all the information you provide.
I have some doubts that I can't find answers.
How many microns must the filters have?
I understand that if they are few microns they can retain the nutrient solution.
I have seen many systems in which the roots soon reach the soil of the container. Can nebulizers be placed on top of the growth chamber?
I've been looking for pressurized tanks like yours, but all the ones I find support only 50-60 psi. I have seen that they are tanks for reverse osmosis and do not reach high pressures. I need a 130-160 psi pressurized tank for it to work comfortably, correct?
You're very welcome.
Lots of questions. Little I will answer them on this TH-cam channel.
Hi Lee! First of all thank you so much for your research and information. Congratulations for your channel. I hope all the best to you in the future.
I got one question.
So this nozzle performance is only when one nozzle is used. How about when I used more than one nozzle? Will it have the same performance (microns and psi)? This is assuming for larger scale aeroponics system,
Rafael, You're welcome my friend.
The short answer is yes for multiple nozzles, IF you use a pressure tank in the design.
The Aeroponics Calculator will help with your design.
@@HighTechGardener Thank you for your answer!
However, my concern is how many misters can be supplied effectively (with 100psi) by one pressure tank? Is there any limit? or the number doesn't really matter?
Hello everyone, I'm a newbie and I'm looking to DIY a high pressure aeropontic 5 gallon system for various types of growing. Spinach, kale, tomatoes, cucumbers, herbs, etc. so I'd like to get a listing of what exactly I'll need and what is the best so not to make any mistakes and lose hard earned money. I watched the video, but I didn't hear the name or model of the nozzle you thought was best. Could you please provide the name and model. Also, what do you think is the best pre-filtered pump?
Hi Kimberly,
Most of your questions are answered in my HPA basic course:
aeroponicsdiy.com/free-aeroponics-video-course/
Thanks for your comment and the like.
THANK YOU
Interesting work. Have you tried any of the models that have a built-in filter on the nozzle itself? Also, I looked at the Tefen website, and I see no info about whether that nozzle is FDA approved or if it is food safe. Did you find any info on that?
The nozzle used is made from Acetal and used in supermarkets vegetable. You won't find an FDA designation from the manufacturer. However, Acetal materials can be FDA and NSF compliant below 50C (122F).
Hope that helps.
Thanks for the question.
@@HighTechGardener Please explain why you find Acetal an acceptable material here, yet tell us specifically to use a PP nozzle in other videos.
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Hey Brian,
Thanks for the kind words
7:00 thank you !
You're welcome.
Bro ive watched the videos an you never reveal anything. I set through the commercials so you can get paid.
Does the 21105 have the SS mesh filter in it?
No. I pre and post filter before the nozzle.
So where’s the links to buy then
Register for the nozzle information. It will be sent to you. Thanks for asking
Good video
Thanks, my friend.
You can measure the diameter of hair pretty easily with a micrometer
When I can, I'll check the hair width with a micrometer. Thanks for the info.
I have entered my email but i am not getting the nozzle report. I would be very grateful if you could send it to me :) keep up the good work!
Hi. Have you reviewed the agrihouse nozzles? The y claim that they are NASA sponsored and funded.
I know the owner.
Are you no longer sharing the report?
I'm still sharing it.
mmaaannn, what took you so long!
Sorry Techno
I despise those types of suppliers that only do B2B sales. What in the hell is wrong with them? Are they just thinking that C2B is not worth their time at all? I am not sure I can wrap my head around that. At least not for this particular product.
@@ericgosh826 I don't feel like putting my own words down right now, so here is some copy and paste for you:
"B2B sales have more of a limited reach considering the deals occur solely between businesses, thus the buying pool isn’t as open as B2C. You’ve also got to take into consideration that whilst average order values are much higher in the B2B space, it’s much harder to secure these deals and generate long lasting relationships. It can also be a really difficult game for small and medium sized business, as each individual wholesaler is crucial to your bottom line: the loss of one long standing partnership could be detrimental to your revenue sheets. Imagine you’re a supplier of clothes for 5 different businesses, each ordering thousands of items every quarter. If one of these wholesalers goes bust and pulls out, your bottom line will suffer directly. Finding a new customer to make up for it won’t be easy, or quick."
b2b only people also might struggle with fielding never ending requests for scale discounts and other perks for wholesale b2b buyers, finding themselves racing to the bottom. As usual, only big players can survive here.
And to answer your question, I don't like putting all of my eggs in one basket, so I would much rather have 1000 customers, even though your whole premise is far too simplistic, and nothing in business is that simple.
And I still hate b2b only, because I, like every other individual on earth, am a consumer.
As a wholesaler if you undercut your bulk buyers who are reselling your product you will hurt their business and so they may choose not to do business with you anymore and your wholesale business can suffer. So most wholesalers don’t also sell piecemeal. They leave that to the retailers.
Link in TH-cam but no link on your webpage
Send me an email and I'll reply with the report.
You are talking me to death.😢
:)