Also…. Instead of doing a one shot bend mark out graduations on your 1/4” rod and do multiple small bends. Like a hickey bender for electrical conduit. That way you can make long sweeping bends if you want to. This bender has lots of potential! Thanks again for a very well thought out tool and sharing it with all of us. Once again you have hit it out of the park!
if you have different diameter dies on the ram you'll get the radius of the die in the bend. I made one similar, only used the hydraulic jack. nice work Mark.
A rule of thumb that I always used is 3 diameters before center of bend and 2 diameters past center of bend to calculate distance around the bend. This only works using the proper size die per the tube diameter. You got a great idea there, enjoy watching your videos!
@@WinkysWorkshop It has been awhile but I think the formula would be to use the same diameter as the tube, it was intended to calculate the outside diameter measurement of the tube being bent. Now I got to go research again to make sure.
Forgot to mention the 1/8 loss is reflective of the 2 diameters past bending point. While just researching my old handbooks I am reminded that tubing should be calculated from center to center measurement, wow I need a nap LOL!
Really simple design... Easy to build... Great job.. Wonder how it would work with flat stock and a top roller , or even an angle iron push head that goes into the press shaft.
Very nice Mark. The math should be easy now plus you can make different size bends and use different rods. If you had a set of regular bearings you could do small pieces of flat stock. That is a nice arbor press big enough to do some good size work but not to large for a home shop. Something that I don't think anyone has mentioned is that the little music that you put into your video's ads to them. Instead of being annoying techno music that is to loud.
Yeah, flat stock about 5/8 wide would work well. I agree on the math... much easier than a standard bender. That arbor press came from my former employer. The plant closed 2 years after I retired and my old boss gave it to me. At the time I thought it was too big but now I think its about right. I need to get a set of broaches for internal key ways but they are high priced. I thought about making a key cutter made kind of like a die filer. I might do it someday. I agree on the music. I think adds as long as it doesn't compete with the content. Music all the way through a video is annoying I think. The music is free music from youtube for anyone making videos. Or for anything I guess.
@@WinkysWorkshop The arbor press was a nice gift. A set of broaches would be nice but as you know sometimes it is hard to justify tooling for the homeshop. Both a broach set or some type of key cutter has entered my mind over the years but it ends up being a file or hss in the lathe or mill. I'll make a deal with you if I win the lottery I will buy both of us a first class name brand broach set and maybe some of those other things that we have been looking at in the catalogs. Usually I don't like any music in the videos, as soon as I am trying to concentrate on something people throw in some overbearing music way to loud. I hope all is well with you. As always it nice to see your video's and talk with you.
Why does the pusher-end have to be unsupported and one sided? you cant make it like a fork to support the pushed wheel on both sides, seems like this wont last????!
Wink, off topic question- have you considered making an improved version of the upright table for the popular HF bandsaw? I have seen several TH-camrs talk about how bad the stock table is and I agree with that. I think you would be a good candidate for this project. Or, do you think or have an alternative such as a dedicated upright saw or something else? Thanks for the content as always and see you next time! Jim
Ah... I had to think about what you were saying. Yeah, the C clamp is not ideal. I probably won't drill the ram but I may make a shoe to fit over the end with a screw to hold it.
You always seem to come up with some unique solutions I enjoy your videos very much
Thanks Alan
Another idea from Winky. Way to go.
Thanks Harold!
Nice thinking Mate, I have a small hydraulic press project in the pipeline so I might have a rethink to incorporate this idea. Ta much.
Thanks. The press should work well.
Nice! very simple yet effective
Glad you like it! Thanks
Also…. Instead of doing a one shot bend mark out graduations on your 1/4” rod and do multiple small bends. Like a hickey bender for electrical conduit. That way you can make long sweeping bends if you want to. This bender has lots of potential! Thanks again for a very well thought out tool and sharing it with all of us. Once again you have hit it out of the park!
interesting idea. I'll bet with a little math and experimenting I can predict the needed rod lengths perfectly.
if you have different diameter dies on the ram you'll get the radius of the die in the bend. I made one similar, only used the hydraulic jack.
nice work Mark.
Exactly. I need to work on the ram part a little so I don't have to use a C clamp. Thanks!
Well done -- THANKS! I have an older very heavy Dake arbor press and will definitely use this great idea.
Your welcome. Thanks for watching
Nice work there Mark....
Thanks!
Cool project winky, I like it to.....
Thanks!
This is a fantastic idea, thank you for sharing
You are so welcome!
Thanks for the video Mr. Winky, very straight to the point for a great bending solution.
Thanks, it seems to do what I need so far. I'm sure I will find some limitations however.
A rule of thumb that I always used is 3 diameters before center of bend and 2 diameters past center of bend to calculate distance around the bend. This only works using the proper size die per the tube diameter. You got a great idea there, enjoy watching your videos!
Interesting. While bending 1/8" rod around a 1/2" diameter form I lost 1/8" on both ends of a right angle bend.
@@WinkysWorkshop It has been awhile but I think the formula would be to use the same diameter as the tube, it was intended to calculate the outside diameter measurement of the tube being bent. Now I got to go research again to make sure.
Forgot to mention the 1/8 loss is reflective of the 2 diameters past bending point. While just researching my old handbooks I am reminded that tubing should be calculated from center to center measurement, wow I need a nap LOL!
Got it now, thanks!
Really simple design... Easy to build... Great job..
Wonder how it would work with flat stock and a top roller , or even an angle iron push head that goes into the press shaft.
Flat stock would likely work well. Thanks for the idea.
Good timing, a friend just gave me a Greenard number three arbor press.
That's great. I think thats about the same size as mine.
Very nice ! ......i would like if you can show us how to build a proper drill grinding jig . In your videos your drills just curl out the metal .
That's actually on my list but so far all my drill are hand sharpened or replaced. Over 1/4 I sharpen it.
Hey! I think an outboard support block would give your shoulder bolt more resistance to bending upward.
Nice job!
Good call! I totally agree.
PERFECTO AMIGO ERES UN MAKINA
Thanks
Cool Winky, kind off looks like a little tube roller.
Thanks... and yes I agree.
handy build….funny when you are testing the bender you have all of these bends with no home…..how do I know….LOL been there done that!!!
Yep... I have a bunch of unused spindles from my CNC wood lathe too.
Very nice Mark. The math should be easy now plus you can make different size bends and use different rods. If you had a set of regular bearings you could do small pieces of flat stock. That is a nice arbor press big enough to do some good size work but not to large for a home shop. Something that I don't think anyone has mentioned is that the little music that you put into your video's ads to them. Instead of being annoying techno music that is to loud.
Yeah, flat stock about 5/8 wide would work well. I agree on the math... much easier than a standard bender. That arbor press came from my former employer. The plant closed 2 years after I retired and my old boss gave it to me. At the time I thought it was too big but now I think its about right. I need to get a set of broaches for internal key ways but they are high priced. I thought about making a key cutter made kind of like a die filer. I might do it someday. I agree on the music. I think adds as long as it doesn't compete with the content. Music all the way through a video is annoying I think. The music is free music from youtube for anyone making videos. Or for anything I guess.
@@WinkysWorkshop The arbor press was a nice gift. A set of broaches would be nice but as you know sometimes it is hard to justify tooling for the homeshop. Both a broach set or some type of key cutter has entered my mind over the years but it ends up being a file or hss in the lathe or mill. I'll make a deal with you if I win the lottery I will buy both of us a first class name brand broach set and maybe some of those other things that we have been looking at in the catalogs. Usually I don't like any music in the videos, as soon as I am trying to concentrate on something people throw in some overbearing music way to loud. I hope all is well with you. As always it nice to see your video's and talk with you.
@@andyZ3500s Thanks on the broach set, I'll do the same "when" I win the lottery.
@@WinkysWorkshop Sounds good
Nice job..
Thanks!
Like it thanks for sharing
Thanks, and thanks for the comment!
Like it. Good info
Thanks Bill
Experimenting. Always fun to do :)
Honestly I think 99% of what I do is experimenting. But you are correct.
Why does the pusher-end have to be unsupported and one sided? you cant make it like a fork to support the pushed wheel on both sides, seems like this wont last????!
I think you are right. Ideally it needs more support.
Wink, off topic question- have you considered making an improved version of the upright table for the popular HF bandsaw? I have seen several TH-camrs talk about how bad the stock table is and I agree with that. I think you would be a good candidate for this project. Or, do you think or have an alternative such as a dedicated upright saw or something else? Thanks for the content as always and see you next time! Jim
Actually i did make one. It wasn't my design however, one of my viewers gave me the idea. th-cam.com/video/yGUw2kuweQk/w-d-xo.html
Love the K.I.S.S. method!
Me too! Thanks
Try drilling and tapping the bottom of you press shaft to hold the top die
Ah... I had to think about what you were saying. Yeah, the C clamp is not ideal. I probably won't drill the ram but I may make a shoe to fit over the end with a screw to hold it.
@@WinkysWorkshop if a guy had a big press maby a #1 Morse taper would work better
@@bulldawg6259 I'm sure that would work well too.
I think it is called compression bending.
You could be right. I like the fact that it bends from the middle. Easier to predict the bends.