So easy to follow. I did one additional thing. Where the 3 cables for the stator are passed through the chassis I passed them through a few inches of clear polythene tube so they will not become abraded. Bit belt and braces maybe but better safe than sorry. The soft silicone cabling is great to work with. Keep up the great advice. Much appreciated.
savage video . my RR melted and i ordered a mosfet replacement and it came with the 3 yellow wire plug and the straight positive and negative battery leads and i was in two minds weather the 5 pin connector from the loom could just be bypasses . having watched your video it has made it quite clear that this is a suitable set up and will be tackling this same install myself tomorrow ! nice simple step by step ! great job bro
Thanks man, very useful upgrade. Only thing that if I may say is that You never leave RED wire without additional protective tubing thru the chassis and close to the engine....,many places where there can be chafing issues with that wire and that is important wire :) . Never the less...great job!..Bravo!
Hi Kev, thanks so much for the videos, and sorry if the is silly question, but once you had pulled the new stator wiring through, how did you know which of the wires to connect to each of the stator wires? Does it not matter?
Once again Thank you, I need to do this to my 5th gen, ordering parts today. It didn't pass the "drill" @5k rpm. I am crap at soldering as well. Sub'd.
Hello Kev, were you getting 14.2 volts with both dip and main beam on?, i bought an 03 Vtec which didn't appear to be keeping the battery charged. I bought an after market R&R which at idle shows 14.2 volts, when the dip is switched on it drops to around 13.0 when the main beam is switched on it drops further to under 12. Raising the revs makes no difference, if i switch the lights of it rises back to 14 plus at the battery. Any ideas?. Many thanks.
The voltage should never drop that low when the electrical system is put under load. I would suspect the stator is not putting out voltage on all 3 phases.
Hi Kev, after finding the reg/rec connector all burnt out I followed your vid to change the system exactly as you showed. My problem is that the system is not charging. I the followed your check list as for the CB600 video and everything checks out ok, all the resistances and diode checks are ok. I checked the main fuse, the battery seems ok, holding charge. I charge it with a maintenance charger. Do you any idea where I should look next? The regrec (Shendigen) and the stator are both new. Help!
Hi Kev! I really appreciate your videos about VFR 800 because thanks to them i already change fork seals :). BUT, can you talk something about stator? How to check it, change it?
Is there any reason why you add additional wiring instead of using the original? Thinking of doing this to mine and wondering why folk don't just cut off the old connector, wire on a fresh one and plug in. Anyone in the comments done that?
@@KevsShed Ah cheers, yeah I've since read about the grounding issues etc. Think I'll take your advice on board and just wire it up on it's own wiring like you've done. Thanks for the reply!
Question - Don't you need to maintain the wiring to the ignition switch from the battery terminal cable? I've seen a brief statement about not needing it, but when you buy a used moto, you don't know exactly what you've got until you get in there. The service manual wiring diagram has a connection from battery to ignition. Both my RR pos cable and the ignition switch cable were soldered into the same battery terminal. I kept it just in case. If the moto doesn't start when I'm done, we'll know why.
A good amount of it needs to remain as it still feeds all of the other electrics on the bike, you can remove the old R/R and Stator connector and it's cabling all the way back to the next connector if you wish without any problem though.
Hey, great video series, but I have one question. Is it too hard to solder new yellow wires straight to the stator? I mean inside the case itself. I understand it should be enough as what you did, but maybe going inside we would find something bad with the stator itself if we're doing this 🤔 never been there, just thoughts.
Thanks for the comment. I don't set the frequency or number of commercials, that is done by TH-cam automatically! The only other alternative is TH-cam premium where you won't get any! 👍🤓
Hi Again Kev, just wondering about using the auto reset fuse. On VFRdiscussion they are saying to NOT use the resetable fuse just use a regular fuse so that you will know there is an issue and then fix it. What are your thoughts? I've used all your VFR videos to help me with my '02 VFr and now with my '06 VFR. Thank You so much they are a great resource.
You could use butt crimp connectors with glue for the statorwires. They are waterproof. Soldering makes the wires hard, and proned to break due to vibrations.
I had considered crimps but prefer the permanence of solder and heat shrink! If anyone doing this wishes to use that method then it’s their bike and their choice 👌🏻
@@Blackfinger00 indeed but is that for ease of assembly and swapping failed ancillaries reasons with less focus on longevity or simply the best possible connection achievable regardless? Given the proof in this series, I'd say the former is the driving force behind the oem's bullet/spade/block connection preference👍
No real issue though, I'm actually commenting/debating more to help Kev on TH-cam interaction algorithms than cause any disagreements haha. All the best wishes in these tricky times to all 😉
hi mate! In your video you forgot to place the bracket that was screwed to the old regulator and which in turn has a nut to hold the fairing. Have you solved it in another way or do you just leave this screw unused? Thanks for your video
Hi thanks for the video. I've seen on some forums that the only weak points of the vfr is the rectifier the wiring and the stator. Will this upgrade reduce the chance of having to replace the stator in the future?
Have you done any work on the ZX9R yet? I'm installing a 923cc Wiseco piston kit in mine at the moment. That was a lot of work, but the job is nearly done now.
Not had the chance to start it yet as I was waiting until I’ve built my new workshop. It would have been built by now had the virus not drifted in! Hopefully I’ll be able to start it in the next couple of months! 👍🏻
@@KevsShed Cool! I have a spare transmission from an zx9r E1 (year 2000) in case my weak 98 gearbox goes. Looking forward to watching the job, it will be useful if/when I need to do the job myself! Out of interest, is the zx9 yours?
Hello and thanks for the great videos. I have only one doubt, following the HONDA wiring diagram, on the original R / R, in addition to the negative there are two positives and a Blue/White wire, which goes to both the starter relay and the safety switch. I wonder, if putting in this new wiring, all those security systems stop working. What do you think about it?
You can get solder with flux already in it but in my experience it's not all that good, adding flux before hand helps a lot. The flux helps the solder flow to where it needs to be instead of forming a blob that doesn't adhere properly.
@@KevsShed i bought one a couple of days ago. First thing to do is strip the bike to see what the previous owners have done on it. I also became a member of your Facebook page. Really appreciate all the information and the help!
Hi Kev, Just discovered that the Reg/Rec on my 03 VFR is kaput. I realise that you have said that you were snowed under with requests but most were over a year ago. Are you still in the market for supplying upgrade kits? I’ve looked on ebay and I’m very wary of the Chinese FH020AA and I’d be a lot more comfortable buying from you. Great videos, they’re a big help and inspire confidence. Cheers, Mark
I have one that I could have shipped first thing this morning but unfortunately I am now on holiday until next Monday! 🤦🏻♂️ pm me on F’book and I’ll sort you out next week bud 👍🏻
Hi Kevin, love the videos pal. Did I see somewhere that you actually sell a complete reg rec set or am I mistaken. If not where did you get your parts? Just about to strip a 2002 VTEC for a rebuild and it needs doing. Thanks in advance. Keep it up pal
I do mate, however I am absolutely snowed under and am not taking any orders at the moment. All the links to the parts are in the video description to which they apply so go check em out mate! 👍🤓
@@KevsShed thanks for the reply l, appreciated. How long do you think before you will be able to do any? Not really clued up on this TH-cam mallarky lol just about to get workshop finished, got wife's 125 to service and fettle.then stripping the viffer, no worries if your not. Thanks Kevin and keep.up the good work pal.
Kev, you probably do away with just over a foot of rectifier wiring, does the old rectifier wiring cause that many issues? I know it’s thinner but 12 inches doesn’t seem that much. Oh matron.
I got it from eBay mate, if you search for a used one from a Yamaha MT09, FJ1300, Honda Africa Twin (can’t remember the year sorry) or certain triumphs then you’ll find a genuine Shindengen 👍🏻
Stupid question of the day.. does it matter which of the three yellow wires is soldered to which of the stator outputs? I couldn’t tell if you tracked exactly which went to which or not 😂
The old wires between the former rectifier and the battery, is it ok to remove them completely or are they wired to anything else? I saw that you used them for a voltmeter and an USB-port mounted around the ignition in a nice manner. On my bike there is a USB/voltmeter unit drilled into the fairing so even though yours looked more nice I'm quite happy as it is. Nice three episodes overall :) I think I might have to replace my rectifier soon enough... had problems with the battery last days (or so I thought), but might be the my turn. I'm charging the battery overnight now and am going to do some testing with the stator and rectifier tomorrow when to battery is fully charged (so I can at least remove a bad battery as the reasons for my problems).
Hey man is there anyway i could send or email you a cpl pics and see if you could tell me what my bike is missing i think i bought almost everything for it
Looking forward to seeing what you have planned for the surplus connection. Ignition switched auxiliary power?
;)
yes same here brill video too
@@guystevens162 he has since I commented. See the auxiliary mounting plate around the ignition barrel video, adding a USB and voltage meter upfront.
So easy to follow. I did one additional thing. Where the 3 cables for the stator are passed through the chassis I passed them through a few inches of clear polythene tube so they will not become abraded. Bit belt and braces maybe but better safe than sorry. The soft silicone cabling is great to work with. Keep up the great advice. Much appreciated.
Yeah, it doesn't hurt to go a bit belt and braces on these kind of things. Good work buddy! 👌🤓
savage video . my RR melted and i ordered a mosfet replacement and it came with the 3 yellow wire plug and the straight positive and negative battery leads and i was in two minds weather the 5 pin connector from the loom could just be bypasses . having watched your video it has made it quite clear that this is a suitable set up and will be tackling this same install myself tomorrow ! nice simple step by step ! great job bro
Cheers chap, glad the video helped you out 👌🏻
Big thanks for this one as well! You’re helping me fix up my old VFR quite nicely!
Hi, may I ask if you have had any problems with the new regulator so far. Please reply, thanks
Thanks for the insight relating to this job. I will be doing this myself and your video has made it clear and concise. Much appreciated.
Amazing, not being mechanically minded you fill me with such confidence, great demonstration, great explanation and thorough 10/10 👌🏻👍🏻
Cheers buddy, glad you liked it, hope it helps you out! 👌🏻
Thanks man, very useful upgrade. Only thing that if I may say is that You never leave RED wire without additional protective tubing thru the chassis and close to the engine....,many places where there can be chafing issues with that wire and that is important wire :) . Never the less...great job!..Bravo!
Great video. Great tutorial. Cant wait to get my kit 👍🏽👌🏽
Hi Kev, thanks so much for the videos, and sorry if the is silly question, but once you had pulled the new stator wiring through, how did you know which of the wires to connect to each of the stator wires? Does it not matter?
It doesn’t matter buddy 👍🏻
Once again Thank you, I need to do this to my 5th gen, ordering parts today. It didn't pass the "drill" @5k rpm. I am crap at soldering as well. Sub'd.
Good luck! 👍🤓
Must have been a weekend for "Bike Tinkering" ..good stuff Sir 😀
Nice to see you here Ade. I sub your channel for s3 content lol 👍
@@p9917j thanks for the support sir... for both of us :)
I sub Ade for his ZX9R stuff as I have an identical one tucked at the back of my garage waiting for me to get started on restoring it!
@@KevsShed Looking forward to when you do Sir...I may get a few tips for mine 😉
Hello Kev, were you getting 14.2 volts with both dip and main beam on?, i bought an 03 Vtec which didn't appear to be keeping the battery charged. I bought an after market R&R which at idle shows 14.2 volts, when the dip is switched on it drops to around 13.0 when the main beam is switched on it drops further to under 12. Raising the revs makes no difference, if i switch the lights of it rises back to 14 plus at the battery. Any ideas?. Many thanks.
The voltage should never drop that low when the electrical system is put under load. I would suspect the stator is not putting out voltage on all 3 phases.
Great set of videos, my job for next winter 👍
Thanks Peter 👍🏻
hey Kev, so you dont reconnect the original harness back to battery?
No leave that connected other wise the rest of the bike will have no power. Simply add the new wiring to the battery as well 👍🏻
Hi Kev, after finding the reg/rec connector all burnt out I followed your vid to change the system exactly as you showed. My problem is that the system is not charging. I the followed your check list as for the CB600 video and everything checks out ok, all the resistances and diode checks are ok. I checked the main fuse, the battery seems ok, holding charge. I charge it with a maintenance charger. Do you any idea where I should look next? The regrec (Shendigen) and the stator are both new. Help!
Are you definitely getting AC output from the Stator?
Check the negative/positive cables going to the battery i had a short innthe cable going around battery causing the same problem
Hi Kev! I really appreciate your videos about VFR 800 because thanks to them i already change fork seals :). BUT, can you talk something about stator? How to check it, change it?
Hi kev do you know if this set up will work on a vtr 1000 firestorm as i know they have reg/rec probs too if you could reply that be great
This will work on any bike mate, the only difference will be the mounting plate will need adjustment to fit the intended application 👍🏻
@@KevsShed awsome were can i get all of what you used can you tell me at all please as it some thing ill do while bike is apart have new engine put in
Hi, I read somewhere that you sell replacement reg/recs for vfr800? If so have you any available? Mines a 99 vfr800 5th gen. Thanks.
I’ve replied to you on FB messenger buddy 👍🏻
Is there any reason why you add additional wiring instead of using the original? Thinking of doing this to mine and wondering why folk don't just cut off the old connector, wire on a fresh one and plug in.
Anyone in the comments done that?
You absolutely could, this bypasses all of the old wiring removing any future issues with it.
@@KevsShed Ah cheers, yeah I've since read about the grounding issues etc. Think I'll take your advice on board and just wire it up on it's own wiring like you've done. Thanks for the reply!
Question - Don't you need to maintain the wiring to the ignition switch from the battery terminal cable? I've seen a brief statement about not needing it, but when you buy a used moto, you don't know exactly what you've got until you get in there. The service manual wiring diagram has a connection from battery to ignition. Both my RR pos cable and the ignition switch cable were soldered into the same battery terminal. I kept it just in case. If the moto doesn't start when I'm done, we'll know why.
A good amount of it needs to remain as it still feeds all of the other electrics on the bike, you can remove the old R/R and Stator connector and it's cabling all the way back to the next connector if you wish without any problem though.
Kev, I’m going to do this on my ‘03 model. Can you advise on the size/gauge cable you use for the stator? Cheers
Hey Kev, dys know if a power commander 5 for a ZZR 1400 is any good for my vfr vtec 2005..much appreciated mate
Hey, great video series, but I have one question. Is it too hard to solder new yellow wires straight to the stator? I mean inside the case itself. I understand it should be enough as what you did, but maybe going inside we would find something bad with the stator itself if we're doing this 🤔 never been there, just thoughts.
Kev thank you buddy.Awesome tutorial.
Brilliant Kev
Nice video..very informative... frustrated by the stupid number and frequency of the commercials
Thanks for the comment. I don't set the frequency or number of commercials, that is done by TH-cam automatically! The only other alternative is TH-cam premium where you won't get any! 👍🤓
Hi Again Kev, just wondering about using the auto reset fuse. On VFRdiscussion they are saying to NOT use the resetable fuse just use a regular fuse so that you will know there is an issue and then fix it. What are your thoughts? I've used all your VFR videos to help me with my '02 VFr and now with my '06 VFR. Thank You so much they are a great resource.
If there is a problem, the CB won’t self reset, not sure why anyone would suggest that it would! 🤷🏼♂️
Thanks again Kev
Cheers mate
thanking you for these very helpfull videos .
You could use butt crimp connectors with glue for the statorwires. They are waterproof. Soldering makes the wires hard, and proned to break due to vibrations.
Surely there's less resistance with soldering and therefore a decrease in heat causing brittle wires at each side of the connection?
@@p9917j You've got at point. But how many soldered connectors can you find in a motorbike or a car? I would say none.
I had considered crimps but prefer the permanence of solder and heat shrink! If anyone doing this wishes to use that method then it’s their bike and their choice 👌🏻
@@Blackfinger00 indeed but is that for ease of assembly and swapping failed ancillaries reasons with less focus on longevity or simply the best possible connection achievable regardless? Given the proof in this series, I'd say the former is the driving force behind the oem's bullet/spade/block connection preference👍
No real issue though, I'm actually commenting/debating more to help Kev on TH-cam interaction algorithms than cause any disagreements haha.
All the best wishes in these tricky times to all 😉
Hi Kev I hear that you do a RR wiring kit for the VFR , hoe do I get hold of one. Thanks
I do, but I am unable to take on anymore orders at the moment as I am absolutely swamped, keep an eye on the VFR Facebook groups for updates! 👍🤓
hi mate! In your video you forgot to place the bracket that was screwed to the old regulator and which in turn has a nut to hold the fairing. Have you solved it in another way or do you just leave this screw unused? Thanks for your video
Nah you are absolutely correct mate, good spot! 😁 I went back and refitted it! 👍🏻
Hi thanks for the video. I've seen on some forums that the only weak points of the vfr is the rectifier the wiring and the stator. Will this upgrade reduce the chance of having to replace the stator in the future?
It certainly should, bypassing the troublesome wiring means that the high resistance caused by corrosion is eliminated.
Have you done any work on the ZX9R yet? I'm installing a 923cc Wiseco piston kit in mine at the moment. That was a lot of work, but the job is nearly done now.
Not had the chance to start it yet as I was waiting until I’ve built my new workshop. It would have been built by now had the virus not drifted in! Hopefully I’ll be able to start it in the next couple of months! 👍🏻
@@KevsShed Looking forward to the build! Got any parts yet? Upgrades?
Oh yeah, I have a Z1000 transmission and a couple of brand new engine cases. :)
@@KevsShed Cool! I have a spare transmission from an zx9r E1 (year 2000) in case my weak 98 gearbox goes. Looking forward to watching the job, it will be useful if/when I need to do the job myself! Out of interest, is the zx9 yours?
Yes mate, it is my bike although my 16 year old son believes it to be his! :)
Hello and thanks for the great videos. I have only one doubt, following the HONDA wiring diagram, on the original R / R, in addition to the negative there are two positives and a Blue/White wire, which goes to both the starter relay and the safety switch. I wonder, if putting in this new wiring, all those security systems stop working. What do you think about it?
The additional wire on the stock R/R is a signal wire to activate the R/R on start. The Shindengen doesn’t need this signal 👍🏻
@@KevsShed Thanks again ;-)
Great videos Kev. Can I ask you do you have to use the flux or can you solder without?
You can get solder with flux already in it but in my experience it's not all that good, adding flux before hand helps a lot. The flux helps the solder flow to where it needs to be instead of forming a blob that doesn't adhere properly.
Nice job!
Thank you! Cheers!
What about the 98-01 vfr? Does it have the same problem too? Great videos my friend!
Yep, exactly the same.
@@KevsShed i bought one a couple of days ago. First thing to do is strip the bike to see what the previous owners have done on it. I also became a member of your Facebook page. Really appreciate all the information and the help!
Hi Kev,
Just discovered that the Reg/Rec on my 03 VFR is kaput. I realise that you have said that you were snowed under with requests but most were over a year ago. Are you still in the market for supplying upgrade kits? I’ve looked on ebay and I’m very wary of the Chinese FH020AA and I’d be a lot more comfortable buying from you. Great videos, they’re a big help and inspire confidence. Cheers, Mark
I have one that I could have shipped first thing this morning but unfortunately I am now on holiday until next Monday! 🤦🏻♂️ pm me on F’book and I’ll sort you out next week bud 👍🏻
@@KevsShed no problem Kev, I can wait. Have a good holiday
@@markboldy4925 no worries bud, I’ll give you a shout early next week 👌🏻
Hi Kevin, love the videos pal. Did I see somewhere that you actually sell a complete reg rec set or am I mistaken. If not where did you get your parts? Just about to strip a 2002 VTEC for a rebuild and it needs doing. Thanks in advance. Keep it up pal
I do mate, however I am absolutely snowed under and am not taking any orders at the moment. All the links to the parts are in the video description to which they apply so go check em out mate! 👍🤓
@@KevsShed thanks for the reply l, appreciated. How long do you think before you will be able to do any? Not really clued up on this TH-cam mallarky lol just about to get workshop finished, got wife's 125 to service and fettle.then stripping the viffer, no worries if your not. Thanks Kevin and keep.up the good work pal.
Really hard to say mate, join my Facebook group and you be among the first to hear when I have some more kits available 👌🏻
Kev, you probably do away with just over a foot of rectifier wiring, does the old rectifier wiring cause that many issues? I know it’s thinner but 12 inches doesn’t seem that much. Oh matron.
yes love video wish was nextdoor neigbour lol. Cant wait to do mine
Very good,very informative, where did you order your reg rec from ?
I got it from eBay mate, if you search for a used one from a Yamaha MT09, FJ1300, Honda Africa Twin (can’t remember the year sorry) or certain triumphs then you’ll find a genuine Shindengen 👍🏻
@@KevsShed thanks
Stupid question of the day.. does it matter which of the three yellow wires is soldered to which of the stator outputs? I couldn’t tell if you tracked exactly which went to which or not 😂
Mike it matters not a jot mate, you can go to any of the yellows, it's 3 phase so it doesn't matter, your R/R sorts it out for you using magic! 😀
Kevs Shed 👍🏻 wonderbar. Having it installed on the 5th so thought I’d ask up front incase questioned.
The old wires between the former rectifier and the battery, is it ok to remove them completely or are they wired to anything else? I saw that you used them for a voltmeter and an USB-port mounted around the ignition in a nice manner. On my bike there is a USB/voltmeter unit drilled into the fairing so even though yours looked more nice I'm quite happy as it is.
Nice three episodes overall :) I think I might have to replace my rectifier soon enough... had problems with the battery last days (or so I thought), but might be the my turn. I'm charging the battery overnight now and am going to do some testing with the stator and rectifier tomorrow when to battery is fully charged (so I can at least remove a bad battery as the reasons for my problems).
You can remove those wires if you wish, no need to keep them if you don't wish to use them for anything else.
Hey man is there anyway i could send or email you a cpl pics and see if you could tell me what my bike is missing i think i bought almost everything for it