The Will You Need To Go To War
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My nephew and I were playing COD War Zone and he started talking about how realistic the game was and how cool it would be to do it in real life. I had to explain to him how wrong he was. I have seen this many times. The civilians idea of war and the reality.
They think it's cool because they imagine themselves as invincible, as if the enemy is not equally as intellectually capable as combatants. It's just a fantasy.
“The civilians” you’re not wrong, but you’re not right. These are your countrymen. Your language choice suggests a separation from the general population. I’d suggest changing that view point- they are who you’re fighting for and as this video points out, willing to die for.
You wouldn’t call your wife and kids “the family” as if you weren’t apart of that unit.
I wonder if some countries use that psychological separation to use the military against their own “civilians?” 🤔
@@Spaghettidash - If he wasn’t a civilian himself he’d be calling out Jocko’s BS here.
Actually it quite common all over the world. In Nigeria the military call you a " bloody civilian "
Hypothesis Statement
Avenging someone
is enacting revenge in their name 😂😂
Also,
it speaks more to be able to reason
And use our words to settle disagreements like adults 😂😂😂...
You got this dude up here, literally speaking
about having the will
to commit acts of
infanticide and homicide 😂😂😂
Like It's some sort of a necessary or normal thing .....
Honestly, this dude should be in an insane asylum.😂😂😂
You can't actually be serious, right??
That's completely and utterly the language of the mad,
The cynical,
the ignorant,
The Tyrants,
and the vain......
😂😂 with all of our technology,
and you can't find a way
to get their attention long enough
to say
"Hey, we don't actually want to kill each other,"
Yet you can bring them to gather for a war???
It doesn't make sense that the ones who called for the war couldn't use the same ability to get them to stop ??
Then, who is even in control there???
and can't we just respect each other's different points of view even if we don't like what they do ...
it's not up to us to decide...
and also learn to accept that humanity does not fit a square mold...
we do not own dissorder...
When we try to control or discipline others,
we are only creating the chaos that we try to avoid ...
So instead,
we should seek to
Control ourselves...
and not behave in such a rash manner...
and try to have some composure and compassion.....
God forbid even love or embrace ?
If not some sort of integrity or tact ...
as in ...
not committing the same crimes
that you are trying to prevent ......
If Iraq or Saudi
or any other countries
hit the US , Canada
or any of the other "first world countries,"
then it would automatically be considered an act of terrorism .....
Even if it was an accident ...
I'm sure that they would still call it terrorism...
Meanwhile,
they call an attack it against their "enemies" or an accident committed by heroes
when our military, aka patisians, aka freedom fighters, aka guerrillas hit civilians in their countries 😂😂
Would it not do better
to understand eachothers position/point of view .????...
or come away with a friend instead??? ...
If not,
then just be individuals ????
and realize that you know more about yourself based on relativity because of them, right??????
so even if you don't like what they do,
Could we not just appreciate or be thankful for
the fact that they taught us something about ourselves as individuals and actually be self-sufficient??????
is just being yourself really that ???
Stop feeling sorry for nothing ... you didn't ask for this, nobody did ... nothing is promised ... nothing is owed .....
Possibly something
that you may or may not have already known ...
There's beauty in relativity,
but there is also beauty in the distance...
Why make enemies...
Or borders... just have your home and my home,
and they're
home,
and each is self separate
because if you can't truly be free,
then that means
that the people who did
"Fight for you,"
only did so in vain,.....
so vanity squared 😂😂
and also very cynical..
. and literally insane...
Hypothetical
Ask a stillborn child what our rights are ..
Also, please explain this so-called merit or personal entitlement.....
So if we are to do those who have never even had a chance, ANY honor 🎖
Our only right is to chance , choice and reason,
all of logic is absolutely meaningless and fundamentaly flawed without purpose ...
Logic must have reason..
because reason is the only logical solution, and anything else would be considered rash, neurotic, psychotic, or insane
Just like the guy who is on a screen
litteraly saying that you need to be ready to kill wemon and childern ...wtf?????
That says all that I need to hear
to know that
THAT GUY IS FREAKING INSANE!!!...
And
if you do what he says,
or even begin to think that violence is a solution .....
Then, you should probably begin reconsidering your sanity ...
Because I'm sorry if I sound mean or angry,
but I'm thinking
that if you could seriously hate someone to the point of feeling no remorse for hurting them ... even years later .. than who are you but the devil ....
How could you hold a grudge it was only ever a misunderstanding. We could be a lot more prosperous if we could all share ...
Think of all the rocket scientists or big football players .. or hockey stars ..
or professional surgeons.. cell phone technicians , school teachers, social workers,
and people that could have been involved in all sorts of actually productive things that help us live symbioticly and harmoniously with nature .... but instead they get gunned down by people like him .. is that what they really want ????
It's sad 😔
I'm a Nam vet. Jocko explained a warzone well. My son proudly served in the USAF partly because I explained to him I did not raise him to be "cannon fodder". My personal belief is if two power hungry goons want more power, they, not the general population should be put in a cage, winner takes all. Also, follow the money.
:nods: Exactly the same philosophy of my grandfather, who was 8th Army in WWII - stick the politicians who want a war in a field, last man standing wins.
All these wars are based upon half truths, at best. Always about money, power and being able to exert authority over another man. The world is fallen and evil men have always been with us. I don't know why people are so easily fooled into believing the holly wood bullshit narratives?
My Dad was in Vietnam. He's never said if he actually killed people or not. He came through so well, but must've been so difficult to be exposed to that.
My grandpa was in there too. I never asked if he specifically killed anyone, but there are funny stories for every veteran. One of his was that part of his platoon learned that their sergeant and some other NCO's had gotten their hands on a few chickens on Thanksgiving Day, and were going to enjoy them while giving/acquiring none for the men they commanded. Naturally, my grandpa led the mission in stealing this chicken and feasting on it. They were discovered by the sergeant, sleeping with quote "chicken bones everywhere". That story always makes me laugh knowing that there were some genuinely terrifying moments for him too.
If I hold the killer's coat while he does the killing, then I am a shareholder in a business that makes monitary profit through the administration of PHILOSOPHICAL LEPROSY.
@@randybryan2516 shoosh
@@hardyje1915 In relation to the number of words I displayed in my comment: you replied with only the one word,"Shoosh". This is very impressive by all accounts and is a testimony to the Power of the Words that ARE your Name/Logos. Jesus taught that,"The, (WORDS) that I say to you... They ARE THE SPIRIT"! ALL of your life everyone that knows of you has looked at you and said The Word,"John";and at some point I'm sure you are of the Hope that your Creator will also look at you with a smile as HE says your Name. Please try to remember that more than one person, with the Name John actually stood right in front of (and was Friends with The Word,"Jesus"! In fact,"There came a man named John whom Jesus Loved also, and begged for the body of The Lord and took the body, and placed it in (a Rock that had been hewn out wherein no man had been laid before". All of this is to say to you that when considering One-word summations that apply to multiple word descriptions, (Since) it is legal for ONE word to describe the entirety of God, then it is also legal for ONE word to describe the entirety of someone whom God Loves,ie:John..! And not just any John (by name) but the John that is further endow by his Creator with a description akin to that which so often hand in hand with a meal worth dining on...(Hardly)! Know Thyself is within the rules, and to begin that journey back Home to the Father, first seek to know the gist of your own Word John: for"In the Volume of the Book...It is Written of Me"! A testimony from the Father reiterated by The Son who received, "For there is ONE that is GOOD,, and that is God! So, "as ye are,I Am Also"! Therefore, get to appreciate just how wonderful you are, and then compare that wonderful UR to the Gist and the Volume of just what does the Word Good suggest. Let the One Word Be God, and let your Friendliest version of your own Word John speak to your Creator with the Two Words that HE has been longing to Hear: THANK YOU..!!!! Ever I shake your head or not, Know without question that during the course of your enduring, you have actually been known by a Believer. Love is not a battlefield.! There is The Fall from Heaven. There is the Fall from Grace, and there is sometimes a fall into a pit. Of the available options: nowhere are we taught by THE Good Guy that LOVE is somewheres or something to Fall in. You Fall into a trap, but,"Love", is within the Down-reaching and then the Up-lifting that is always evidenced by others as The smile on your Face and the Song from within your Heart. As shared from The Above, through the U that is Below-vid; and then on unto the All that The Volume and the Gist of the Word, "LOVE" Sown through from the Above theince the Hearts of All that Have ably seen with their (I'z) eyes and Heard with their (Eers)ears..On and On throughout the Survivable Journey and quite Enjoyable Ambiance of Always At Once! Love: (verb) Voluntary action that Promotes the More Abundance of Life.* You Know that I Love you Because I have told you the Truth.
@@randybryan2516 If you're AI, good comment.
If you're human quit trying to sound smart.
If only humanity will learn from our attempts to solve these dilemmas....thanks JP
The "humanity" living in a bubble watching tv all day aren't living in areas of conflict, asking the wrong people the wrong questions.
It's like asking my nephew if children at Gaza Strip should have bubblegum or pizza for dinner.
Easy: find God.
@@e.vangelios7285 Thanks for figuring out the answer to life itself. You deserve every award ever awareded, ever.
I’m an older Veteran, I went to Bootcamp in 1979 and exited in 2000. The Sad Simple Truth is that since 1945 We The USA has been making War Without Strategic And Beneficial Goals As Valid Reasons. I agree that yes, you must be willing to Kill and Die and there will be Collateral Damage. We very easily could’ve gone right into Bagdad in 1991, taken Saddam out and handed control over to the Generals and the UN. We should have Never Bombed the Balkans. Should’ve been out of Afghanistan in 6 months. Staging the Coup in Ukraine in 2014 and building a 600k Man Army to attempt to Weaken Russia? Look at where we (The Collective West) are now. I don’t have any ill Will towards my Brother & Sister Warfighters, don’t get me wrong, it’s the Corruption, Ignorance and Arrogance at the Top that’s got to change.
Yupp, fighting to instill fear, inflict casualties, destroy societies and businesses, and make money in foreign countries doesn't seem too noble a goal compared with fighting out of necessity, in order to prevent all that.
TL;DR
Corrupt governments follow corrupt goals, and abuse their power to send out soldiers to achieve those goals.
Anyway, salute and all the best. 🍀💜
The reason this might have happened is because they secretly imported many of the Top NAZI's into America after WW2 which leaves us with the question, where and what are their Children doing Today????
Sorry for asking but is there any way to ask you out more? Very interesting to hear that from actual people who wäre involved
68 69
Wait until you realize we fought the wrong enemy in 41-45
Love Jordan Peterson.
yes yes. always...
This should be a highly viewed video.. Not just because of Jocko.. But Jocko and Jordan.. Remember that.
The blind leading the blind?
Teddy Roosevelt's speech "Citizenship in a Republic" draws some parallels to this conversation here.
Jesus, Jocko...
You didn't have to sugarcoat it.
Haaah 😂
When he was talking about the collateral damage of women and children, it reminded me of the game "Spec Ops: The Line." Franchises like Call of Duty and Battlefield really glamorizes war, but that game really showcases the brutality of it. This War of Mine is also another game that lets you experience war from the perspective of a civilian.
Most people in the world just want to be left alone and have the freedom to live their lives in peace.
Government: Not on my watch!
I was taught as a child in firearms training that when ever you fire a weapon no matter what direction
the projectile is fired it always hits something.
This principle can easily be applied to any other conflict where the enemy is firing back at you. Just saying!
@@kevinsteel7875 It doesn't change physics.
That "rat" analogy was pretty awful because it supposes that the US first delt with the initial perpetrators then move on to clear suspects. We installed Saddam Hussain into Iraq
Yo munky
war is wherenthe young and stupid kill each other in behalf of the old and bitter.
"Lions for Lambs".
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War, any war, is a dreadful thing. However, sometimes it is necessary...that's just a (sad) fact. Thank you to those who were, and are, willing to serve to make life better for others.
It's not necessary, it's more like inevitable
@@spunkymonkey5102 it’s sometimes necessary depending on the aggressors will to live, or any major injustices inflicted on a group of people.
@Josephean your missing the point. "Oppressor" groups and "Oppressed" will always exist. When an oppressed group overthrows an oppressor, now you just flipped the roles. Due to that, you can't draw a moral conclusion like necessity. Thus, a more neutral term like inevitable is apt
The garage, the cellar. Unfortunately, the rats were way more widespread than that. They were talking on TV. They were holding positions of power. Rats are like that. You never know where they are all the time.
I applaud Dr Peterson, he is helping to bring to the people one of the key things missing in our ever more complicated world. Thinking and talking about things openly and honestly, and getting to the real nitty gritty, tring to work things out. The world is a crazy place, we need more of this.
Excellent. Thank You Jordan and Jocko.
How can intelligent people not see a controlled demolition?
There's a saying that "people will not recognize what's going on, if their job depends on not recognizing it".
And then there's those who believe what some perceived authorities on a matter tell them, intelligence give or take.
...
(And lots of other reasons.)
You're assuming most people are intelligent 😅
When he asked for the reasons for the intervention in Iraq I felt like someone was grasping at straws… many conflicts, including the recent genocide of the poor yemenites, beset our world but it seems like they are not of due concern for USA.
Having said that, I have great consideration and respect for Dr. Peterson.
The ultimate leader would be the combination between these two. The philosopher warrior king.
His name is James Mattis.
Jesus christ
Jesus our Saviour
The things is if you look at Iraq, what did the invasion achieve more than a million Iraqi dead, but what for. Iraq wasn't that big of a threat for US, that it had to be destroyed. US was just too powerful to destroy Iraq easily. Iraq didn't do anything to america.
God Dam I been waiting for Jocko to say it bravo Peterson
Dr Jordan Peterson you safe my lyf in so many ways I can't imagine 🎉 thank you Dr 🙏💞 from somalia 🇸🇴
Read the book - With the Old Breed: At Peleliu and Okinawa by Sledge, E B.
My grandpa was a little boy when Auschwitz was happening and he was trapped in a school with his whole family and people and he ended up escaping from Auschwitz by jumping out the window and running away from there because there was a time where he was able to get away because the Nazis later on ended up installing electric fences, if he were to try during that time he wouldn't have made it out... He was the only one to get away and the rest is what happened there..... 😢
Two great men here
There is no greatness in a man who defends a wicked war.
Well, that ended abruptly.
*concisely
That's what she said
I have so much respect for y'all.
If anyone wants to know why Bush and Rumsfeld shifted from Afghanistan to Iraq, read: The Afghanistan Papers, by Craig Whitlock. Basically the two names I just mentioned had zero idea. It had nothing to do with rats infesting anything; unless, of course the rats were the Bush family with an axe to grind against Saddam, and the illegal invasion of two countries that had zero to do with 9/11.
I enjoy listening to Jocko, but in this video, it felt like he was standing behind a jingoistic mask.
The basic answer is, the war in Afghanistan/Iraq was a huge 20 year failure.
As an englishman. I would add that Tony Blair had a big part to play in this also
All of Nato went along with it. Basically any group that could profit from the war did everything they could to prolong it.
It would at least be difficult to call it a "success," but I don't think you can call the entire enterprise a failure when you consider what Jocko said about normal civilians cheering on American soldiers who were killing insurgents. Al Qaeda, and it's offshoot, ISIS, are downright genocidal at times. I do think the American government should be more circumspect with regard to deploying troops or funding international wars, but do you remember the absolute frenzy that ensued among American civilians after 9/11? There was no way in hell that the world's superpower was going to allow that to happen without retaliation.
And here's another thought to consider, would you have the nerve to tell someone like Jocko to his face that the entire Afghan/Iraq war effort was a complete failure?
@@thaddiusglunt2424 I can agree with some of that, and I am an Afghanistan war veteran. I’ve seen the small victories first hand. And I vividly recall the frenzy, because I’d enlisted prior to 9/11, and it was freaking wild. But those victories were mostly erased long before the final withdrawal (which was an abject failure). There’s over a century of history that could’ve predicted that would happen.
On your final point, I believe that on the grand scheme of things, operational and command(not at boots on the ground level), that Jocko would agree. He’s probably on record somewhere stating exactly that!
I have to also pose these questions: why Afghanistan; because that’s where Osama sought refuge? And, why, after initially defeating the taliban, and watching Osama flee into hiding did coalition forces pivot to Iraq-because of the WMD’ which did not exist? And why, when that was discovered did the coalition pivot back to Afghanistan, and remain for the better part of two decades, after the Taliban offered to talk terms? Afghan and Iraqi civilians weren’t cheering any longer … neither of them had anything to do with 9/11 to begin with, and got dragged into by coalition forces. 99% of Afghans wouldn’t have know where NYC was, let alone steer a plane there.
How many lives was acceptable, and how many was too much? How many soldiers and families lives are now broken? Osama is dead, but ISIS, Al Qaeda, and the Haqqani network are now as strong as ever.
Since Pearl Harbour, why is the US Gov so hell bent on conflict and war … it’s now nearing on a complete century that America has spent involved in conflict-almost without a break-to protect Freedom, or to profit from war? Couldn’t you argue that these are the reasons why Osama targeted the US in the first place, and now the country i probably in a worse place then what it was prior to 9/11!
@@honestpat7789 You raise a lot of interesting questions. I think the Taliban targeted America in part because of the Soviet-Afghan war from 1979 - 1989. The Cold War subsumed parts of the Middle East, and the Soviets were trying to maintain a communist regime, under a series of puppet dictators, in Afghanistan. This pressure engendered a rise in religious extremists who fought against thr Soviets until they left. The Taliban formed shortly after that if I'm not mistaken with funding from Osama.
I'm sure there was a lot of shady stuff going on over there. There's always war profiteers. But it was the Taliban that really had an axe to grind with everyone else--their God damned holy war. It seems as though their hatred for everyone that isn't them, even moderate Muslims, is largely fueled from past wars.
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I'm sure Jocko is right about the situation on the ground in regards to the general population and insurgents interaction, but that's not why wars are fought.
Wars are fought over strategic and economic resources. And whoever says it's about politics, ideas, and/or morals is bullshitting you.
WW1
Spainish civil war
Iraq war
I think the point is that war is, at the human and therefore most relevant level, about individual suffering and sacrifice. You can talk about why they are fought all day, but ultimately it is the individual who suffers, and who must kill and must die in war.
The rulers of the world don't care about morality or good. They're pragmatists at best and violent psychopaths being the more likely of the two.
the problem is that we focus so MUCH on "Them" that we fail to see the problems in OURSELVES. so we are NOT equipped to handle war and for legitimate reason! example: culture war, big tech war, illegal immigrant, big brother problems etc right here in Americas.
Yep.
I love honesty
5:05
There is a movie that I consider to be extremely underrated. It's called "Eye in the Sky." Regarding Jocko's point there, I think the movie does a good enough job exemplifying what he is talking about. Aaron Paul, Helen Mirren, and Alan Rickman play prominent roles in the movie.
Rickman expressed one of my favorite lines ever:
"Don't ever tell a soldier that he doesn't know the cost of war."
Now this is quality.
Constitutional tolerance and against oppression have always consequences without reform consents of acknowledgement, accountability by justice, nothing could be achieved but
disorder and dysfunction.
To stop or prevent that into the future, legitimacy, home security is way forward.
"Thank you both for the remarkable issues."
When these two giants get together, darkness disappears.
Mamalos
The darkness is on this soldier. He's defending a war that caused the death of a million civilians. He does not represent light and is A SERVANT OF DARKNESS.
@@kimkim123ism what?
@@kimkim123ism soo when country attack the US and destroy some of the states these guys still the "SERVANT OF DARKNESS"???😊😊😊
@@kimkim123ism i respect your view but you are VERY naive 😂
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Heavy stuff! Hard to even listen, let alone live through it!
So many vets are killing themselves because they know that many of the people they kill in these private wars are innocent people and that they, the solders are surely the bad guys. This confusion in the soldier drives him mad when out of serving. Vets know the truth and they know who they worked for but they take the "thank you" from the public no problem.
AMAZING.....TRUTH REAL ....TRUTH THAT HURTS......
What squadron/ flag are you Jocko?
Jocko, would you go back and lead a team of the ROE were more favorable to teams?
War- I’m a 53 yr old 100% Disable Veteran. I served 8 yrs in the U.S. Army Infantry, 2 combat tours back to back, Op Just Cause-Panama-89-90
Op. Desert Shield/Storm-Iraq-90-91
I wasn’t old enough to buy a drink,21, until AFTER I came home from the desert.
That being said, I have ZERO PTSD. I knew what needed to be done in war as an Infantryman, our mission is to FIX(find) and KILL THE ENEMY, hold ground until we have a follow on mission. These are things you KNOW before going in. We train to take the lives of our enemy and save the lives of our brothers. Killing and seeing the ABSOLUTE WORST a human can do to another human startled me, but it’s what we are TRAINED for, killing. We did our job and all that was asked of us.
Looking back, we were brainwashed, lied to, set up for failure and sacrificed by our Government for THEIR INTERESTS, not the American Peoples interest. A pawn in a game, but a game where lives are exchanged for ENRICHING THE ELITE.
We are fodder for our Government, young, strong, intelligent, a number in a sea of numbers, with no real meaning. Once the enemy is no longer at the gate we are a reviled part of society, seen as dangerous, short tempered, even mean. We are a forsaken group, only wanted in times of war.
Come home, get out of the Army and you don’t fit into the civilian lifestyle. The things they bitch about are unimportant, irrelevant or easily overcome. There is no work harder than being an Infantryman in combat, civilian jobs don’t compare. We don’t have the skill set to assimilate back into society.
A day in combat…live, die or get wounded, only 3 things can happen, make it through the day, there’s another coming tomorrow and no END DATE in sight. That’s a living fucking nightmare, you job is to fix and kill the enemy EVERY FUCKING DAY, WHILE TRYING TO STAY ALIVE AND KEEP YOUR BROTHERS ALIVE. The responsibility is ENORMOUS and at 19( my age during my first combat tour) this was as simple and raw as life could get, kill or be killed. The end.
Thank you for the sacrifice you made, you did what was asked of you and my sense is you did so with great sincerity of heart. Peace to you in these later years in life. I was NOT in combat but was in Iraq for humanitarian aid efforts May-Oct 1991 (US Navy Photographer). To a much lesser degree than you, I experienced the 'don't fit back into civilian life' thing; everything seemed so irrelevant back here in US, I didn't feel understood by people who'd not had some similar experience, still don't in some significant ways despite how long ago that was. You were a good Soldier and today you're a good man. PHC USN Ret
It's a dividing subject to bring up in this channel. Jordan Peterson has viewers from around the world. There is nothing that one can say in Joko's situation that would justify the death of one's innocent neighbours, spouse, or children.
We have to remember that Joko's message is not a justification of such actions. It is a statement about the reality. He is simply trying to explain what a US soldier moral values need to be like to succeed in US military.
Soldiers in other countries may have other values or motivations.
Please, don't hate. Both speakers have a lot of wisdom for us to learn from.
Amen
It would seem that Jordan Peterson is akin to an era of authenticity and honesty we've since lost in politics. Abraham Lincoln, Winston Churchill, Martin Luther King to name a few. They all shared one thing in common, a desire to rise above the game of politics and defend the honour of the soul. In the worst periods of war and human depravity this remained steadfast and is the true mark of great leadership. This is the benchmark.
I would argue that a nation needs to have the will to win absolutely. The constant pattern of post ww2 is mere battles but the wars have never been won because there has never been an absolute commitment to winning and ending evil regimes completely.
It can't really be done. You can't kill ideas, beliefs or what is in a mans heart. You kill a decent man's family, while invading his homeland and you've now created a very fucking determined and fearless enemy. US corp. has created many such men. God Almighty has an absolutely exact tally of all injustice and whose feet it lies at.
red famine: stalins war on ukraine by anne applebaum stalin intentionally created famine in ukraine which lead to untold amounts of ukrainians starving to death.
hellstorm by thomas goodrich
the bombardment a movie can be seen on net flix it which true events are depicted of brittish and or us unecessarily slaughtering civilians in the opening seen it shows three civilian female nurses going to work at a civilian hospital when a brittish plane flies up and opens fire with full auto 50 caliber guns blasting all three plus the guy who was driving the cab fully dead.
in hellstorm it is told of how us / brittish unnecesarily bombed again an again and again and agian german civilian cities AFTER the war had ended. we also, can not forget the evil that decended upon germany from allies, russians and asians working with russia when at the end of the war rapes of females went thru the roof, degredation of german civilians, slavery and their own types of concentration camp scenarios etc
then look what happend a what 50 year cold war with ussr
cuban missle crisis etcccc
stalin was as evil as hitler was barbaric was the name of the game
the us and brittish also committed what would be called crimes against humanity.....
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now with the ru s s i an ukrai n e war well russia has been forced by way of us brittish funding of what we at like $200++ billion sent to ukrain e r u s s i a has been forced to do what you argue for in your comment: they have the will to win absolutely
The end goal has been profit for politicians instead of defeating evil.
In reality snow in summer also makes to listen if heat don't work then maybe cold weather is helping i only know 2 extremes
"Two wrongs don't make a right... but mmm... it makes you feel a whole lot better"
Good, can't wait.
Not a coincidence alotta these games look very dronish. Much easier to kill from a far away screen than up close.
It is horrible, but this man is telling facts war is like opening the doors of hell.
Wish they’d go to war for something that actually benefited society, 99.9 percent of the warrior class is under extreme mind control.
Is iraq better now ? Did they fix it?
Depends on what you mean by 'better' and by 'fix'.
But it's been sort of destroyed.
#Allegedly
Great interview 👍 if you want peace prepare for war !!! Lovey to hear honesty
nah, people just need to get high on psychedelics to discover that the whole existence is love and their desire to fight anybody or anything will disappear... no wonder psychedelics are banned, nobody could control, oppress or enslave anybody otherwise. \o/
Or....OR stop meddling in other countries' business.
@@schmingusss No he's very correct look at all of history. Doesn't matter if you don't deal in other nations business you will always have to face a enemy. Poland conceded time and time again for the sake of Allies to not provoke her neighbors. She was still invaded regardless. Ukraine gave up her nukes in so Russia would recognize her nation. Years later when Putin's puppet fell from power and replaced by a American one, he invaded in 2014. Nations and groups will always want more power and will always find a enemy to fight. Human's will not change.
@@WithmeVerissimusWhostoned That honestly sounds like the most hippie dumbass shit ever. Become a zombie and just be plastered off of your mind. Sounds literally counterproductive to all of the animal kingdom. Desire is why you are alive today, desire is why civilization is here desire is why your little psychedelics are produced and distributed despite the laws in place to halt it.
Jocko is in denial
Yes those wires are oil and not yours.
You to. There will not be any reprisal.
I remember not thinking about myself until i got back to the fob. It wasnt about my life, it was about someone elses.
Sometimes, I see keyboard warriors who think they are brave for posting a comment on youtube, a blog post, posting a video or tweeting something. They kid themselves they are fighters in a 'culture war'. This, what Jocko describes, is real, actual war. And, unlike anything in internet land, it requires real courage.
Very well put!
I’m a green beret in the culture war. Civilians wouldn’t understand what it’s really like it the comment sections.
@@JoeMama-yd1ve If you are being serious (it's not quite clear), I suggest you ask yourself if, on your deathbed, you will be saying 'I wish I'd spent more time arguing about politics with strangers online"
It takes a lot of courage to say the n word when no one else is willing to do so. You wouldn’t get it, you weren’t there in the trenches in the culture wars like me.
@@jjw9641fuck that death bed thing, why base your life in some shitty moment that won't last, but yea doing that's stupid
Although I have the outmost respect for the men and women that keep our way of living and culture safe and secure, the "will to go to war" is born out of the threat that our way of life will cease to exist if we don't respond accordingly.
One of the most successful drafting campagnes in (American) history, is the draft following the attack on Pearl Harbour. The immediate response of the American public to defend, cannot be manufactured; for this sincere and determined shift of thinking and prioritising can only be triggered by a real threat for your existence.
Respect our warriors, question our leaders.
The enemy is not some vague and nebulous character in a far away-strange land. The enemy is right here in our own backyard and he looks just like you and I.
Question our leaders, because our warriors won't.
At least he's honest about the killing of innocent people.
Curveball
Hell yeah 💯
The analogy of rats is well thought out, because when you can't chase them all, you end up leaving the house, which is exactly what happened!
In all seriousness, Einstein once said politics is more difficult than physics. If you can explain quantum entaglement, you may get a sense of why the focus shifted from Afghanistan to Iraq.
When a person says I believe he's actually saying I don't know, I think, I suppose, I assume, I imagine. He isn't saying I know.
You don't send armed men to a country to be a teddy bear or a shield for the weak. Armed men go to a country to destroy it.
Exactly. Destroy the basement and the garage.
No bullshit view. I love soldiers like this.
Not sure why, no audio/
Wow 👌 👏
09:16 - Jocko gave only a safe diplomatic answer to this, which is extremely disappointing. He knows full well - as many people do - why Dick Cheney and the military-industrial complex went into Iraq. Jocko talks about needing to be tough, but he himself gives the "safe" answer.
It seems to me that foreign policy that has aimed to so call help various nations where these bad things are happening have not realized that dictatorial regimes and war have been going on in these places forever. And even though it’s good to help people when the you leave these places things go back to chaos and disorder then animosity sets in for the so called saviours even though some good has been done. God helps those who help them selves so I think we shouldn’t interject in foreign affairs and let the people of theses places fight for their own freedom so they have an appreciation for something they attained on their own through blood sweat and tears instead of waiting to be saved which does them a disservice and robs them of the lesson of what it is to fight for something attainable on their own accord.
Jordan advocates against war but our govts are at war with us, & Jocko looks a lot like what stands between us & defending ourselves from said govts. Stand w/ the people.Say it loud & proud,
I think your right. I believe that’s what it will come down to eventually. Push the population far enough and change will be forced one way or another
@Top Dog id like Jordan to have a more practical view & Jocko (the first of many more) to state he won't act against us, the people, in support of the govt.
At least he looks sorry and grieving for the innocent civs he masacred
One thing is for sure..this man Jocko has his head screwed on proper. Yes, I will follow this man wherever he thinks is the right way to go. He is not about just shooting that gun magazine empty. Anyways..going into the middle east, shooting it up and leave those people with the mess you made is a sloppy job.
My grandpa was grenadier in the Wehrmacht, shooting large artillery shells on russians. I quite regret that i was not super interested in all of that as a kid. Id really interested in many Details. Anyways, he Ended up in a gulag and survived until the End of the war. Im so Glad he made it and he went back to russia later on. Dont know what he did there beides from traveling around. Maybe some way of saying sorry. But that is just my speculation. He just said to me that he likes russia very much.
He taught me to be honest, he hated Journalist (i did not share this view at all back then, now i do). How to build stuff from wood and how to shoot guns. Going to war was not optional back then and so in those Cases it does not matter if you are prepared or willing to kill, youve gotta do it or find other ways out.
Dont know how much the war in ukraine will Escalate but im not gonna shoot russians if it becomes a Europe wide thing. Im rather shooting NATO soliders. The real agressors of the Past decade
My great-grandfather fell in the Donbas in WW2, flattened by the Soviet tanks. I never thought I would ever become a soldier, let alone go to war. Yet here I am in the French Foreign Legion. I have never killed, but a lot of good men around me have. But I guarantee that nobody here wants to go to war, especially since 30% of the Legion speaks Russian.
Jordan Peterson cannot understand why attention shifted from 9/11 to Iraq?
If the answer was that the Iraq war, and all the killing of civilians, women and children that went with it, was mostly about oil, and a prize for G.W. Bush's Texas oil cronies, and that 9/11 was deliberately allowed to happen, to create a pretext for the war, as well as to profit from short-selling of airline stock, would conservative followers of J.P. have the kind of "will" that this video talks about, to do something about it, or would their minds recoil, go into denial mode, play Devil's Advocate, and cling to every last doubt that maybe the horrible, shaming realization wasn't true?
he really didn't look good back then, very happy to see how much his life turned around. gives me hope....
Dont forget the acid baths
It was the americans who financed and trained those same insurgents. The us trains their own enemies. Dozens of examples not just iraq
I would imagine when it starts it’s nearly impossible to stop because you killed someone’s infant accidentally and then they kill your mother and it just keeps going and going eventually nobody even remembers why it started just killing to kill man woman child
2 airplanes took out 3 building. I think the rat 🐀 is our own government
I wish this hadn’t ended so abruptly
Why "insurgents"? Why can't the enemy be named?
Is it Iran? Saudis? Who are we fighting?
You can't accomplish a goal if the goal can't be defined
I always respect warriors
It's pretty f...up. Best to let them do whatever to themselves, unless is threatening international security
I would call an earmark of $100 billion to Ukraine a heavy involvement in foreign wars sir.
Wot is it aboot?
The most surreal moment of my life was in a little town outside of Ramadi. Large firefight many many dead Iraqi insurgents and dead civilians laying on the ground. The next day out command said "gents we have to win the hearts and minds" so we patrolled back into this area with Santa Claus hats on handing out soccer balls to Children. Meanwhile the body's are still laying on the ground. My mind immediately went to these people probably think we are some kind of Santa Claus death cult. my brain broke and I started laughing, I've been laughing ever since.
Why did you guys not put the corpses away first before showing up as Santa Claus?
Tactically it's not wise to linger on the battlefield removing your enemies dead bodies. Due to the potential of enemy reinforcements showing up and killing you.
@@bugwild1544 ^
@@cfhtx3295 let meet you and i
Why bother, they were the enemy. Let them sort out their own dead.
His argument boils down to 'Team America: World Police'. Maybe that's fine, but let's acknowledge it's a post WW2 narrative
I've stored enough wrath for 20 years. I don't want to harm the innocent. But the wretched hurts them? its on, the cage will break loose. Sword and line will be drawn.
After the hell I've put this body through. Makes hell week seem like a vacation house. Even Challege God to kill it he made it better? So I serve a righteous God and them who harm the innocent are not innocent of need to suffer as well DO ON TO OTHER'S: AS YOU WANT DONE ONTO YOU . No if and or fucking buts.
The darkest parts of our masculine yearn to be used for justice and righteousness...
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@@Murphator seek first the kingdom of God, and all that righteousness of his: shall surly be added to the one who seek them to know them.
2:42 He used the word quagmire properly but I still giggled a little.
we really have to get a commercial in a 6 minute clip?
Yes, it's how they make money... Good knows TH-cam does everything they can to inviabilize channels like his...
every person on the battlefield got their purpose for stepping on. the field dont judge is what I say
There will never be a legitimate justification for Afghanistan or Iraq.
The style of speaking with pauses is noticeably similar others on YT….
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