Remember watching live at the time ,15 years old (a great time for 500 GP's) Always remember it for Croz bringing Bazza down at Stowe, and the King getting beaten by Jack Middleburg on his privateer bike. That was a very rare sight for Kenny Roberts fans. Bring back 500 two strokes for me any time!
Had his fair share of luck in this race, but Jack took advantage of Roberts & Mamola fannying about, then when Mamola went onto 2 cylinders or whatever, he ambushed Roberts and fucked off with it. A great rider never given the right equipment and perishing in a Dutch Championship race at some open road dive.
Barry Sheen was a extremely good adviser , working for Aussie tv ,tech , tactical, those race callers gave Barry is due respect which was nice to see , BARRY RIRP (REST IN REV PEACE) HOPE YR NUTS N BOLTS HOLD YOU TOGETHER YOU ARE SURELY MISSED . From the fearless world over RIP
Awesome riding from the Dutchman. Pure skill. What a brilliant race - and back in the day when this circuit was one of the fastest around. A great upload - thannks yds205!
I think I would put that down as the '79 GP at Silverstone. The '82 GP in Argentina was not bad either but this is right up there.(Certainly in pre Moto GP days) Just don't find it as exciting these days.
This my era two strokes. My first bike was a Fizzy (FS1E). RD 200 electric. RD 250 air cooled, then 2 RD 350 LC'c with Micron exhausts. Could never afford the RD 500 LC.
I had an RD500LC, but sold it after two weeks of owning it so that I didn't either lose my license or kill myself. At speed it handled fine, but low speed handling was not what it was built for. Roundabouts were a nightmare at 30 mph, but no problem at all at 70 mph. A beautifully evil machine.
250LC, 350LC, then KR250 ending with an RG500. The only one I didn't race was the 250LC. The RG in Aust. mostly had to race in the 1000 class, 600 class was in my case ( being a South Aussie ) only at Mac Park. The RZ500 never had a chance, I held the lap record at MacPark from 86 til 92 on the RG and I sold it in 87! I used it on the road all the time and it pulled 11.5 @ 119mph down the quarter. The bike only had frequent oil changes, plugs, pads and new tyres to race it. Never lifted a head and it never even had a gearing change or even the fork oil. It was bought new and I was only seventeen. Clearing the plugs after it had warmed up left four trails in the mirrors and I never got tired of seeing that. The stock gearing was so tall that second was used in the suburbs, and second ran out at around 160 kmh. Also knew a guy who commuted on his, 1500km a week! It had 350,000 kay on it, he bought it new and the engine was mostly original and it never got washed. His only transport but definitely the best choice. I find it hard to think I sold it even though I knew it was the last roll of the dice for two strokes. But I raced and it was not competitive any more. Rode one 15 years later and have to admit that one disappointed me. My era also.
Bring back two strokes for me any day. I had an X7 with Microns back in '86 after I had passed my test, handled like a tea trolley but still quick for a 250. Rode my mate's 350 LC with allspeeds and it was the most exciting thing I ever rode and that includes all the large four strokes I owned later on.
Super! Thanks! "Jumping" Jack Middelburg hereby prooved to de a true top-racer! I saw his awfull and sad life-ending crash in Tolbert/The Netherlands// in front of my eyes in 1982! Jack R.I.P./*\✓ @#rolfdejonge@
Terrific race. A pity Mamola's bike ran out of something or other on the last lap. Commentary by Murray Walker and the all-time great John Surtees. What a treat. Nowadays when watching MotoGP we have to listen to the babbling verbal dysentery of Keith Heuwen - a never-wozzer if ever there was one.
Keith Huewen is a great commentator and was a very good rider in his day. He was second in the 350cc race at this very GP and had several good GP finishes on inferior machinery, not many have achieved that sitting on a couch!
Great racing from my youth. These guys were my heros! It's amazing that a newer bone stock 600cc sportbike can blitz these lap times. Modern chassis's and tires with 500cc two stroke power........., I would pay to see that.
You’re absolutely spot on there. I was there that day and at the time felt that we had been robbed of what could have been a really exciting race from Barry. Wrecked by Croz dropping it whilst pushing too hard at the beginning. Hey, that’s racing for you but, it still turned out to be a good race though and Jack surprised us all!
bellissima gara di un motomondiale che purtroppo non cè piu'...adesso solo business e polemiche... grande kenny a voltarsi indietro e fare segno a lucchinelli tutto ok?bellissime moto a 2tempi e grandi piloti a dominarle...grazie per l'upload
I think I was in the stand opposite the Woodcote chicane, got treated rather than stand at out usual place Club. And we chatted with Henry and George Cooper doing promotion work for Brut, my mum still has the umbrella we were given thanks for uploading, loved the 2 stroke era
I can only assume yes, the old tyres and suspension were state of the art back then but obsolete nowadays, I think the 2-stroke powerband on these would have been vicious and very difficult to control, some very talented riders in this video. It kind of makes me think the current GP riders have it a little easier with anti-wheelie, traction control etc. but the new bikes also do 100kmh faster than these bikes so I cant blame them :-P
was a superb lesson of riding - not only he rode strong compared to the factory bikes but he used his head to freak the mental of none other than the king himself . you can see all the race long how they were embarrassed with him sticking there.
.I agree. I think the most powerful acceleration thrill I ever got, was riding one of those. Except for the 750, I ridden pretty much every performance bike built, or one of its rivals. 2 stroke power seems to have that real urge when accelerating that you dont get from a 4 stroke that does a reasonably quicker 1/4 mile time
One off the Dutch great three!!! (probably the best) 1 'Jumping' Jack middelburg he won at Assen and Silverstone. (privateer) 2 Will Hartog ( The white giant ) One GP at Assen. (Factory supported) 3 Anton van Dulmen ( Den Boet ) One GP at Finland.(privateer) Sadly Jack died to early during a roadrace in Tolbert the Netherlands, iff he didnt i am sure he would be one off the greatest in the world!
It's great to see someone who finally knows his GP/MotoGP stuff, instead of all these young one's that can only come out with "Rossi is God", "Rossi is King" etc, and don't you dare mention 'Casey Stoner' or your a piece of shit, or worse. Since Stoner joined MotoGP in 2006, he's won 2 titles, with 35 wins and 63 pod's. In the same time Rossi also has 2 titles with only 26 wins and 60 pod's. They can't handle hearing this fact, and watch the crap I'll receive for posting it again.
Apparently Honda only fueled the NR 500 to do 10 or so laps as they thought it would be at the back or go bang but with Spencer on it that day it was going really well .
This actually was the case at the 1979 British GP. The prototype was a dog of a thing and Honda knew it, so they fueled them short to show well on the tv. By 1981 the bike was a much better prospect but it was just plain unreliable. It revved like crazy and broke a lot.
I'm reminded how scatterbrained Murrey Walker's commentary was " and it's Roberts, Kenny Roberts who takes the lead ... So Crosby leads, then Roberts, then Sheene ... "
Estos si que eran pilotos,me gustaría ver a marquez correr con estas motos sin control de tracción o anticaballito o los mapas de motor ect.ect ahora son abudirrisimas y demasiado postureo...ahhh aquellos años setenta y ochenta manma mia...
Spoiler alert, cut to 43:30 to behold Murray Walker's classic exultation, "Look at his sponsor, he's absolutely, and understandably, and totally justifiably, beside himself", or watch the whole race, as it's something else. #silverstone #500cc * if I'm not mistaken, it's Murray, either way it's gold
You weren't even alive when we had Spencer(2 titles), Lawson(4), Gardiner(1), who broke a streak that would've seen Lawson win 5 in a row, Schwantz(1), Doohan (5 in a row), and would have won a lot more but for injury. 13 years+ of REAL champion (legends) Some of the guys you mentioned wouldn't have win a GP in that period. If you think late 90's to mid 2000's were exciting, you should have been born 15 years earlier. I like what I like and you like who you do and NOTHING will change that.
Back then it took about a year to get used to the powers and characteristics of a 500. Today they just move from Moto 2 to MotoGP and start winning from the start.
Kalau jaman sekarang motor ini masuk katagori moto 2. Kalau moto GP jaman sekarang masuk katagori balapan mobil LCGC Sigra , Avanza dan sejenisnya. Karena CC nya sm hehe
How the hell was this 37 years ago????? I must be getting really old. It seems that it was maybe 10 or 12 years ago. But then again Vale 46 has been racing GP's for 22 years.
Yep, was ridden by a rather young Freddie Spencer. Unfortunately it didn't last the race but as Freddie himself will testify the technology used in this super high revving, oval pistoned creature paved the way to some of the spectacular machines later down the road!
@@colinjrob they were using it in 79. It turn in to the NR750 road bike Later on. I watch mick grant fall off at copse on the first lap. He smiled at me and said I can go home happy now!😁
Remember watching live at the time ,15 years old (a great time for 500 GP's) Always remember it for Croz bringing Bazza down at Stowe, and the King getting beaten by Jack Middleburg on his privateer bike. That was a very rare sight for Kenny Roberts fans. Bring back 500 two strokes for me any time!
To beat Kenny Roberts your ass got to be on point
The last privateer to ever win a grand prix in the 500cc/MotoGP
That was such a good race. Jack Middleburg having a perfect day. Roberts and Mamola must have been so surprised.
Had his fair share of luck in this race, but Jack took advantage of Roberts & Mamola fannying about, then when Mamola went onto 2 cylinders or whatever, he ambushed Roberts and fucked off with it. A great rider never given the right equipment and perishing in a Dutch Championship race at some open road dive.
Barry Sheen was a extremely good adviser , working for Aussie tv ,tech , tactical, those race callers gave Barry is due respect which was nice to see , BARRY RIRP (REST IN REV PEACE) HOPE YR NUTS N BOLTS HOLD YOU TOGETHER YOU ARE SURELY MISSED . From the fearless world over RIP
He was saving is tires for the last lap. What a drive from a privateer.
Really amazing ThE 3 hollanders....they had everything against, but they GOT very good results
I was in the stands at stow corner 40 years ago a very youthful 20 year old 😫😫
Awesome riding from the Dutchman. Pure skill. What a brilliant race - and back in the day when this circuit was one of the fastest around.
A great upload - thannks yds205!
hands down, one of the greatest races ever
I think I would put that down as the '79 GP at Silverstone. The '82 GP in Argentina was not bad either but this is right up there.(Certainly in pre Moto GP days) Just don't find it as exciting these days.
@@timcolder2789 'What he said', agreed 😉
This my era two strokes. My first bike was a Fizzy (FS1E). RD 200 electric. RD 250 air cooled, then 2 RD 350 LC'c with Micron exhausts. Could never afford the RD 500 LC.
seemour butt FS1E DX, CB175, Superdream 250, Honda 750 the first of the twin cams, CBX six - also my era great times👍
I had an RD500LC, but sold it after two weeks of owning it so that I didn't either lose my license or kill myself. At speed it handled fine, but low speed handling was not what it was built for. Roundabouts were a nightmare at 30 mph, but no problem at all at 70 mph. A beautifully evil machine.
@@andrewshore262 I had a 250 TZR Yamaha....was fast...fast.
250LC, 350LC, then KR250 ending with an RG500. The only one I didn't race was the 250LC. The RG in Aust. mostly had to race in the 1000 class, 600 class was in my case ( being a South Aussie ) only at Mac Park. The RZ500 never had a chance, I held the lap record at MacPark from 86 til 92 on the RG and I sold it in 87! I used it on the road all the time and it pulled 11.5 @ 119mph down the quarter. The bike only had frequent oil changes, plugs, pads and new tyres to race it. Never lifted a head and it never even had a gearing change or even the fork oil. It was bought new and I was only seventeen. Clearing the plugs after it had warmed up left four trails in the mirrors and I never got tired of seeing that. The stock gearing was so tall that second was used in the suburbs, and second ran out at around 160 kmh. Also knew a guy who commuted on his, 1500km a week! It had 350,000 kay on it, he bought it new and the engine was mostly original and it never got washed. His only transport but definitely the best choice. I find it hard to think I sold it even though I knew it was the last roll of the dice for two strokes. But I raced and it was not competitive any more. Rode one 15 years later and have to admit that one disappointed me. My era also.
Bring back two strokes for me any day. I had an X7 with Microns back in '86 after I had passed my test, handled like a tea trolley but still quick for a 250. Rode my mate's 350 LC with allspeeds and it was the most exciting thing I ever rode and that includes all the large four strokes I owned later on.
Super! Thanks!
"Jumping" Jack Middelburg hereby prooved to de a true top-racer!
I saw his awfull and sad life-ending crash in Tolbert/The Netherlands// in front of my eyes in 1982!
Jack R.I.P./*\✓
@#rolfdejonge@
We were at this GP. Very, VERY hot day. In my memory forever, what a race.
drummingriffin lucky boy, that's amazing. this race is beyond a classic, it's a Masterpiece, and a must watch to all race fans and future gp pilots.
22degrees?
Magic memory ❤
Kenny was a fast rider, but Jack was a hero. Kenny was always safety first.
WoW!. Really fantastic, an amazing show with the motor sound too. Whatching this race now at this time...i don't have any words to say !!!.
Terrific race. A pity Mamola's bike ran out of something or other on the last lap. Commentary by Murray Walker and the all-time great John Surtees. What a treat. Nowadays when watching MotoGP we have to listen to the babbling verbal dysentery of Keith Heuwen - a never-wozzer if ever there was one.
Good comment. The world is full of never wozzers.....I join them proudly.
Keith Huewen is a great commentator and was a very good rider in his day. He was second in the 350cc race at this very GP and had several good GP finishes on inferior machinery, not many have achieved that sitting on a couch!
This kind of crap makes me laugh/vomit.Huewen has achieved much much more than any armchair critic & keyboard warrior,get a life you sad tossers.
Great racing from my youth. These guys were my heros! It's amazing that a newer bone stock 600cc sportbike can blitz these lap times. Modern chassis's and tires with 500cc two stroke power........., I would pay to see that.
Bring this Silverstone back!
Indeed hanger straight was absolutely awesome back then
Totally agree with that. The new circuit is like a go kart track in comparison.
I had huge pictures of these bikes on my wall ...when I was younger XXX
My Uncle Jon & Auntie Doreen bought them for me & had them framed in wooden frames XXX
I remember that race well, Crosby had a price on his head for taking out Baza. Look at the crowds there compared to now, those were the days.
You’re absolutely spot on there. I was there that day and at the time felt that we had been robbed of what could have been a really exciting race from Barry. Wrecked by Croz dropping it whilst pushing too hard at the beginning. Hey, that’s racing for you but, it still turned out to be a good race though and Jack surprised us all!
Sad, jack is no more with us.
Great race from a great year, best year ever and ever😂
What a race and what a great rider Middelburg was.
jumpingjack
+Gijs van Hesteren The Maggots-Beckets-Chapel is better today, but the other part is worse.
Great fight!.
Mr.kork was so beautiful riding form!!
bellissima gara di un motomondiale che purtroppo non cè piu'...adesso solo business e polemiche...
grande kenny a voltarsi indietro e fare segno a lucchinelli tutto ok?bellissime moto a 2tempi e grandi piloti a dominarle...grazie per l'upload
concordo con te negli ultimi anni abbiamo fatto la fine del calcio dove parla di motociclismo anche chi non sa portare neanche la bicicletta
GEWELDIG DIE JACK HIJ DOET HET GEWOON TOP.
Rip Boet van Dulmen.
I think I was in the stand opposite the Woodcote chicane, got treated rather than stand at out usual place Club. And we chatted with Henry and George Cooper doing promotion work for Brut, my mum still has the umbrella we were given
thanks for uploading, loved the 2 stroke era
cool thanks uploader,was good to see that style
Murray was such an enthusiastic comment that often got it wrong!
nick hi I was at that 500 gp at silver stone what a great time.
RIP dad i miss those days
Jack Middelburg à Silverstone 81, une sorte de Rocky motorisé. Très belle course, merci "yds250"
I can only assume yes, the old tyres and suspension were state of the art back then but obsolete nowadays, I think the 2-stroke powerband on these would have been vicious and very difficult to control, some very talented riders in this video. It kind of makes me think the current GP riders have it a little easier with anti-wheelie, traction control etc. but the new bikes also do 100kmh faster than these bikes so I cant blame them :-P
By far the best figuration of Silverstone.
was a superb lesson of riding - not only he rode strong compared to the factory bikes but he used his head to freak the mental of none other than the king himself . you can see all the race long how they were embarrassed with him sticking there.
Another epic day at Silverstone and the sun shone look how many are in the crowd all round the cuirct good times
I was there that day stood just before they went under the Daily Express Bridge. Got Really Bad Sunburn Also !.
42.17 just epic! Privateer showing a factory man how its done!
Remember watching this at the time, enjoyed watching it again.
You know it's really old when 1 row has 8 riders in it
And massive jump start
.I agree. I think the most powerful acceleration thrill I ever got, was riding one of those. Except for the 750, I ridden pretty much every performance bike built, or one of its rivals. 2 stroke power seems to have that real urge when accelerating that you dont get from a 4 stroke that does a reasonably quicker 1/4 mile time
And I was there. Great stuff :)
So was I! Fantastic racing. The hairs are up when they thry get off the startline :-)
One off the Dutch great three!!! (probably the best)
1 'Jumping' Jack middelburg he won at Assen and Silverstone. (privateer)
2 Will Hartog ( The white giant ) One GP at Assen. (Factory supported)
3 Anton van Dulmen ( Den Boet ) One GP at Finland.(privateer)
Sadly Jack died to early during a roadrace in Tolbert the Netherlands, iff he didnt i am sure he would be one off the greatest in the world!
Not correct. Wil Hartog won 5 GP's (Netherlands 1x, Germany 1x, Belgium 1x and Finland twice)
Fantastic stuff
It's great to see someone who finally knows his GP/MotoGP stuff, instead of all these young one's that can only come out with "Rossi is God", "Rossi is King" etc, and don't you dare mention 'Casey Stoner' or your a piece of shit, or worse. Since Stoner joined MotoGP in 2006, he's won 2 titles, with 35 wins and 63 pod's. In the same time Rossi also has 2 titles with only 26 wins and 60 pod's. They can't handle hearing this fact, and watch the crap I'll receive for posting it again.
Thanks!!!!! Keep 'em comin'.....
thanks brother for the info
Balapan 1981..Para Legenda MotoGP..
This is a great video - but those wooden stakes holding the straw bales!!
This was the year I won a pillion ride at this GP with Croz in MCN. I hope it wasn't me who jinxed him!
The year I was born. How many bikes! How many overtakes! I see why people moan about moto gp now. Good vid.
Near all races were a thing to see back then. I started going to races a year later and those memories will stay with me.
Apparently Honda only fueled the NR 500 to do 10 or so laps as they thought it would be at the back or go bang but with Spencer on it that day it was going really well .
Spencer could have made It in the long term with ThE NR
This actually was the case at the 1979 British GP. The prototype was a dog of a thing and Honda knew it, so they fueled them short to show well on the tv. By 1981 the bike was a much better prospect but it was just plain unreliable. It revved like crazy and broke a lot.
murray f1 and 500cc best commentator!
Mooi man, ik ben trots op je JACK.
Jack is our dutch LEGEND. from Honselersdijk.. my hometown..
Yes it's the Great John Surtees with Murray Walker.
Crosby all the way! Go you flying kiwi ❤
Keith Huewen got a mention!!!
I'm reminded how scatterbrained Murrey Walker's commentary was
" and it's Roberts, Kenny Roberts who takes the lead ... So Crosby leads, then Roberts, then Sheene ... "
“Reving more than 8.000 rpm”
THIS WOULD BE AWSOME IF IT WAS DIGITALLY REMASTERED IN HD 🏁🇬🇧🏁
Estos si que eran pilotos,me gustaría ver a marquez correr con estas motos sin control de tracción o anticaballito o los mapas de motor ect.ect ahora son abudirrisimas y demasiado postureo...ahhh aquellos años setenta y ochenta manma mia...
Bel video...e bel groviglio iniziale
great!
that stack could've been very very different with multiple fatalities :O
What a huge field they had back then, like a traffic jam!! Crazy start, disaster waiting to happen.
Spoiler alert, cut to 43:30 to behold Murray Walker's classic exultation, "Look at his sponsor, he's absolutely, and understandably, and totally justifiably, beside himself", or watch the whole race, as it's something else. #silverstone #500cc * if I'm not mistaken, it's Murray, either way it's gold
I was there.👍🇬🇧
You have to had it to the privateer. He beat the world champ in a race.....
You weren't even alive when we had Spencer(2 titles), Lawson(4), Gardiner(1), who broke a streak that would've seen Lawson win 5 in a row, Schwantz(1), Doohan (5 in a row), and would have won a lot more but for injury. 13 years+ of REAL champion (legends) Some of the guys you mentioned wouldn't have win a GP in that period. If you think late 90's to mid 2000's were exciting, you should have been born 15 years earlier. I like what I like and you like who you do and NOTHING will change that.
ThE years between 1999 And 2005 had ThE LOWEST level ever.
Then, with ThE arrival of Stoner, Dani, Jorge, etc...ThE level went Up again
ahhhh
NR-500 was Freddy's demise
There was always Beef between Roberts and Spencer .. but they are some Great damn riders
i was there we had an great patry aferwards
i have question was it harder to ride these bike back then since we now have better suspension and tires ect?
VERY hard
Back then it took about a year to get used to the powers and characteristics of a 500. Today they just move from Moto 2 to MotoGP and start winning from the start.
The lean angle on cornering is so much more now that they are almost ground level.
True but the riding style these days exaggerates the lean angle a bit because of the way they hang off the side of the bike
About five really top guys, maybe another 5 really good riders, a few top privateers and then a horde of bams on customer Suzukis.😂
Look at the parapets at 1:53 lol
Barry Sheene....very unlucky....
good ol' muddley talker,never could get much right,bless 'im!
Murray Walker knew his stuff it just never came out right! He raced bikes his father was too I think. Well missed compared to today's babbling idiots.
Kalau jaman sekarang motor ini masuk katagori moto 2. Kalau moto GP jaman sekarang masuk katagori balapan mobil LCGC Sigra , Avanza dan sejenisnya. Karena CC nya sm hehe
DORNA. Please note the sizr of the grid and the massive crowd-one of which as me!
Because of Barry Sheene.
It IS not that now It IS worse
No control tyres made racing far more exciting in those days.I doubt you will ever see a privateer beat a works bike again either.
Mooie kleding meisje prachtig
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nice
Kawazaki 👍 2 Stroke Engine
ThE great Kork ballington And his 4 titles
How the hell was this 37 years ago????? I must be getting really old. It seems that it was maybe 10 or 12 years ago. But then again Vale 46 has been racing GP's for 22 years.
jumping jack ,great rider down at least 20 horsepower , but with bakker frame (made in holland)
Who are the guys kicking stones on the inside of the track ? 😶🤔
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would i be able to compete against these guys on my gsxr 1000 k1 if i went back in time?
Karen Brown your bike is heavier and has less horsepower. But in the hands of an ace rider like you that wouldn't be a problem.
miles off Lucas
danielsonn77 Please explain?
Haha, you would probably have a chance with a 2016 Yamaha YZR-M1 set up by Movistar Yamaha mechanics.
did ducati have any riders/bikes at this time? i guess they rode the 600cc back then?
No,Ducati never had a GP team back then
Sounds like F1's Murray Walker.
Honda competed with a 4 stroke in 81?!!! Can't find info on that... cool though!
Yep, was ridden by a rather young Freddie Spencer. Unfortunately it didn't last the race but as Freddie himself will testify the technology used in this super high revving, oval pistoned creature paved the way to some of the spectacular machines later down the road!
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@@colinjrob they were using it in 79. It turn in to the NR750 road bike Later on. I watch mick grant fall off at copse on the first lap. He smiled at me and said I can go home happy now!😁
Wilhartog gas erop
Leuk gas erop 🎉❤
Had to stop watching once Sheene dismounted. Barry was my 2nd sporting hero after Muhammad Ali.
I could not keep on watching either
Shame....You missed a great race.....
Seems like I'm the youngest here:)
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was phil henderson in this race ?
Don't know , but looks like he gonski now
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My birth year 1981
No Murray, that's Roberts giving Lucchinelli the GIRUY. Fuckssakes Murray ya banger, keep an eye on the screen.
Bike racing before it was a contract sport.