I think I figured it out. Rutherford did those illegal races to pay for his parts, but eventually got caught by Starfleet. Instead of prison though, the Admiral/Captain who caught him wanted to get Rutherford to finish his new technology (Better impulse engines?) So Rutherford is forced to work for his freedom, and under the pressure of the Admiral/Captain he pushes the technology to far to quickly and gets blown up. In order to cover their tracks, the Admiral/Captain then had an implant installed into Rutherfords head, to do four things: -Save Rutherfords life -Cover his tracks with a fake story about Rutherford getting the implant willingly -Remove large chunks of Rutherfords memories to control him or mold his personality -Possibly turn Rutherford into some sort of operative
@@athroughzdude I don't think it was an admiral this time. I took a closer look at the higher up that was in Rutherford's flashback and it looks like he holds the rank of Lieutenant Commander (at least when the events of the flashback took place). It may be the lighting messing with the image but it's definitely not an admiral given that the uniform he's wearing (again at the time of the incident) is worn by officers, not admirals.
i was disappointed it did not cut to the bridge of the Warbird and show Badgey in full wrath of khan regalia yelling "from hell's heart i stab thee Rutherford"
This was a much darker ending than I was expecting. I thought for sure that Rutherford and his younger self were going to merge at the end, and he was going to become a complete person. But instead his younger self died, meaning that all of those memories are now lost to Rutherford forever.
True, but I think it could also be interpreted as Rutherford choosing to be who he is now over the person he was years ago. He’s coming to terms with how he used to be this rebellious aggressive kid with something to prove & deciding that it’s time to let all that anger go; to move forward as the person he is now even if it was a result of someone tampering with his mind because he likes who he is now, & having friends, & working on the Cerritos. It’s such a cool moment! It’s like the best kind of trek where it metaphorically tackles something abstract, like the feeling that your not living up to your own expectations, & uses sci-fi stuff to present it as a concrete issue that can be solved. Rutherford literally gets to talk with his past self & understand that where he is now is likely better than where he wanted to be as a kid. LD rules.
@@Electrolux219 Its also nice that this time, as opposed to the usual Cathartic ending as a cop out - we get this. Dealing with the reality of becoming who he really wants to be NECESSITATES to a large extent, the forgetting and leaving behind the unstable, unreliable and dangerous person that he used to be. Now thats good human commentary, a splash of Sci fi, seasoned with just a bit of comedy and drama. Now thats good trek.
*@The Lost Subrosian ~* The following is _'Beta'_ Canon (NON-official, but generally accepted by the ST-community), drawn from *[Star Trek Online* (STO) *MMO-RPG* (2010-present 2022)] so take this with a grain of salt... *;)* 1. *_Return & Repurposed_** ~* The Delta Flyer *_WOULD_* find continued service after the USS Voyager's successful 'Odyssey'-journey back from the Delta Quadrant to the Alpha Quadrant. Starfleet would see the value in the Delta Flyer, and make use of the design. 2. *_Redesigned & Reclassified_** ~* The Starfleet Engineering Corps, with a team headed up by (promoted) Lt. Commander B'Elanna Torres-Paris and (still same ranked) Lt. Tom Paris, the Delta Flyer design would undergo extensive redesign and refit to more current (25th Century) Starfleet standards & Federation technologies. Eventually, the updated refit-design would be reclassified as the _Delta-class_ High Velocity Shuttle. 3. *_Rapid Response_** ~* In the STO-era (ST-year 2409-2412+), the _Delta_ HVS sees service in Starfleet as a Rapid Response shuttlecraft, with assignment (usually just 1-2) to many capital starships, and squadrons (5) in-use at planetary garrisons &/or watch-posts across Federation space. - a.) Larger than a standard (TNG) shuttlecraft, but smaller than a (DS9) Runabout, a _Delta_ HVS can fit up to 6 people. Excellent for sending a squad of personnel to (short range) locations quickly. - b.) The _Delta_ HVS has a stable maximum Warp Speed of 9.98, but (rather obviously) a short range. Some _Delta_ HVS are equipped with Quantum Slipstream Drive (Warp 20 speed), but also only for short range QSD jumps; having a QSD also drastically reduces passenger capacity (max 2). - c.) The _Delta_ HVS is armed with a Phaser Array, Transphasic (shield- & armor-penetrating) Torpedoes, and Tachyon Beam (shields- & sensors-disrupting) Emitters.
Given how durable it is and it's use for long range capacities i wouldn't be surprised if the Delta flier became a quasi if not fully standard design across star fleet. Something that could fulfill similar jobs to the runabout class
It's kinda brilliant how many life lessons the writers can put into this show. This particular episode showed how different you think between early and late 20s while the 2nd episode focused on "sometimes" taking risks to advance your life and the 1st one on how you don't need to do everything yourself and rely on others.
Hm? There were ships that looked like that among the ships being raced by the Delta Flyer in the Voyager episode "Drive," so it seems more like a reference to those.
@@philtkaswahl2124 I'm looking at a screenshot of the starting line up of that race and I don't see anything that resembles young Rutherford's ship at all, but it sure does follow a lot of Star Wars design quirks.
@@posindustries Look at the line up again. One that's a cockpit with two gold-glowing nacelles on pylons is right next to the Delta Flyer (which is what I immediately thought of first time I saw the episode and its race reference). Also one with quad pylons-ironically more X-Wing like-in the foreground as the race starts. EDIT: Mind, I'm kind of the same mind as EC Henry and his vids on ship design, so it takes more than superficial similarities for me to consider something as "Star Warsy" in design. And there are parts of Rutherford's ship that don't twig "SW design language" to me.
Great, depressing line from Young!Rutherford I love is when he hears his older self has his friends serving as his crew cries, "That ain't fair!" He's not talking about his enemy having a crew.
I loved this scene so much felt like Star Wars the Phantom Menace meets Star Trek Voyager's episode Drive. Rutherford really earned my respect with this episode.
Probably my favorite episode out of Season 3 so far. Rutherford's backstory being explored is really great considering we've at least gotten snippets of the other Lower Decks crew, but never anything from Rutherford but a single clip in the season 2 finale.
Ngl, when I saw he built the Delta Flyer and even wore the outfit, I freaked out a little. I know it's derided a lot, but Voyager is probably still my favorite of all the ST series
Theres something here that I think most people have overlooked and havent really put much mind into and thats the fact that Rutherford here is an absolute GENIUS. He is far smarter than La Forge, B'lanna, Tucker, Scotty, or even O'Brien as he has not only built a custom Cerritos scale model with a WORKING Warp Core and working Phasers, but he has also the complete engineering schematics of the Delta Flyer committed to memory so well that he can perfectly replicate one and build one himself INCLUDING the Borg tech that would be unobtainable for him. Yes, I know this is the mindscape and he can conjure up anything here, but instead of fully making the DF just appear out of nowhere, he actually built it from scratch. Im willing to bet that the Cerritos was a sleeper ship filled with some of the brightest and most advanced that Starfleet has to offer but were far too chaotic to serve on a frontline cruiser and were regulated to a supply workhorse instead.
Technically, he might be accessing data saved to his implant, even if it and his brain is kind of a mess. (And why _wouldn't_ he save the Delta Flyer schematics to his personal hard drive? It's the kind of thing that might come in handy someday!) But yeah, he's sure simulating an awful lot within his noggin at once.
It's more than that. Remember how he got injured in the first place: He was working on that very racer, his pride and joy, and the engine overloaded and exploded. *I will burn your heart in a fire*
1:18 Freeze Frame! I commend the animators for having the beams illuminate the bottom of the ship. The crazy geniuses over at Corridor Crew recreated Star Wars' Trench Run and added that effect also.
The... Uhh, thing that old Rutherford appears to have built is... Well, I'll break it down part by part. I see two early Brahms model nacelle, like those used on the Cheyenne class, a cockpit module that appears to be stolen from a Battlestar Galactica viper, and an oversized engine module maybe from an... Old United Earth Pioneer class. Maybe in house though.
Rutherford (current) really outwitted his past self. He created the Delta Flier, and used the 'anything goes' clause in the rules to create a crew of his best friends. By itself, the Flyer wouldn't beat Rutherford's (past) racing shuttle, but with a fully equipped and trained crew aboard? There was no way he wouldn't win.
when i first saw this episode, i was honestly expecting the two different Memories to join together at the end, and we would get to see next episode how different but Similar Ruth is with both kinds of Personalities and Memories
Oh hey look: old Rutherford has the M5 panel in his ship, the same we see with the Aledo. Maybe the Ai started out as his copilot because he had no friends? Maybe he tried to create a friend...
At one point, there's this annoyed look on Boimler's face--and just like that, I find myself imagining he's descended from Sesame Street's Bert. Fabricated Americans for the win!
I kinda wish Rutherfords past personality somewhat melded with his own. Not to where the Rutherford we know completely changes, but to the point where he has some aspects of his old self. Just seems kinda sad for his old self to die while being locked out of his own body
So what do we think Rutherford was working on that Starfleet covered it up? Because I doubt any type of engine would require that much corrupt secrecy and backhand dealings...
That could just be the tip of the iceberg. Mybe that engine was going to be fited into something big. Or just a stepping stone to something like the U.S.S vengeance in Star trek into darkness. Mybe even the tech they were using was dangerous. So dangerous that star fleet would not aprove its use. That's my guess.
@@mngentry As far as I'm concerned LD *is* a Trek show ... about a crew not quite ready for first contact. With more jokes, obscure callbacks, and off-the-wall situations. I mean, is Tendi turning into a giant scorpion any weirder than Janeway and Paris turning into salamanders?
Smh. Playmates Toys made Prodigy figures, then Paramount pulls the plug on the show. Lower Decks has had 3 seasons and still no action figures. What's going on, toy maker? Where's the smarts? I'd pick up Boimler in a heartbeat. Rutherford and Tendi are tied for 2nd place in my mind...
Question: in episode 1 Boimler says Rutherford is a new cyborg. But this episode is saying everything happened 10 years ago. So what happened? Was Rutherford in suspension until recently? Was he doing other work & they just deleted his memories? Are we going to meet someone who knew him before, like family or academy classmates?
Probably just a continuity error but my explanation is that Rutherford got transferred to the cerritos after some issue that forced them to overwrite his memory again(or he was just in stasis and they needed an excuse for the missing time) so they implanted memories of him working on another ship without the implant to make him pass it off as something new to the cerritos.
@@NotTheLastSoL could be. From the start of episode 1 we don’t know how long anyone has been there, except Tendi. The whole gang could have only known each other for a year, plus what’s considered a “new cyborg”. I think it would be an interesting plot to see what happen those 10 years
@@NotTheLastSoL Yep, pretty much my take: continuity error, but they could retcon as false memories. Alternatively the first implant was less visible, but he began to remember after nearly a decade. So they slapped the external Vulcan one on him, and he merged the memories of two surgeries. (IIRC the flashback at the end of season 2 had only the two surgeons, so maybe the third figure was only there for the first one.) That way his memories would match his verifiable career ... mostly. FWIW, the current three seasons apparently occurred over two years or less. (The season 3 opener occurs soon after the season 2 cliffhanger.)
This implies that the romulans never bothered to report/complain to the federation about all the racers on their turf and have fun taking potshots instead. :P
The... Uhh, thing that old Rutherford appears to have built is... Well, I'll break it down part by part. I see two early Brahms model nacelle, like those used on the Cheyenne class, a cockpit module that appears to be stolen from a Battlestar Galactica viper, and an oversized engine module maybe from an... Old United Earth Pioneer class. Maybe in house though.
I think I figured it out. Rutherford did those illegal races to pay for his parts, but eventually got caught by Starfleet. Instead of prison though, the Admiral/Captain who caught him wanted to get Rutherford to finish his new technology (Better impulse engines?)
So Rutherford is forced to work for his freedom, and under the pressure of the Admiral/Captain he pushes the technology to far to quickly and gets blown up.
In order to cover their tracks, the Admiral/Captain then had an implant installed into Rutherfords head, to do four things:
-Save Rutherfords life
-Cover his tracks with a fake story about Rutherford getting the implant willingly
-Remove large chunks of Rutherfords memories to control him or mold his personality
-Possibly turn Rutherford into some sort of operative
Cover-up on a secret project could also mean Section 31 is somehow involved.
I'm still betting on Section 31 being involved. Though I like your theory.
In a sense that admiral actually murdered the previous Rutherford.
@@athroughzdude I don't think it was an admiral this time. I took a closer look at the higher up that was in Rutherford's flashback and it looks like he holds the rank of Lieutenant Commander (at least when the events of the flashback took place). It may be the lighting messing with the image but it's definitely not an admiral given that the uniform he's wearing (again at the time of the incident) is worn by officers, not admirals.
@@UPRailRoad-xg8cb My point stands, it was murder (from a philosophical standpoint).
I've loved how he'd pictured marina as a chipper gal lol "Okie doki"
Well, he is placing her in his usual position as engineering. So a little bit of imprinting is implied.
Mariner*
@@beno22iscool Yes, thank you. Now he just needs to edit the comment, assuming he didn’t realize he could
Nah it’s just cause they’re in his head
@@beno22iscool marinara.....
i was disappointed it did not cut to the bridge of the Warbird and show Badgey in full wrath of khan regalia yelling "from hell's heart i stab thee Rutherford"
OMG that would have been perfect!
hed call him father, but yeah.
"I will burn your heart in a Fire!"
No, Badgey would say "I WILL BURN YOUR HEART IN A FIRE"
This was a much darker ending than I was expecting. I thought for sure that Rutherford and his younger self were going to merge at the end, and he was going to become a complete person. But instead his younger self died, meaning that all of those memories are now lost to Rutherford forever.
True, but I think it could also be interpreted as Rutherford choosing to be who he is now over the person he was years ago. He’s coming to terms with how he used to be this rebellious aggressive kid with something to prove & deciding that it’s time to let all that anger go; to move forward as the person he is now even if it was a result of someone tampering with his mind because he likes who he is now, & having friends, & working on the Cerritos.
It’s such a cool moment! It’s like the best kind of trek where it metaphorically tackles something abstract, like the feeling that your not living up to your own expectations, & uses sci-fi stuff to present it as a concrete issue that can be solved. Rutherford literally gets to talk with his past self & understand that where he is now is likely better than where he wanted to be as a kid. LD rules.
@@Electrolux219 Its also nice that this time, as opposed to the usual Cathartic ending as a cop out - we get this.
Dealing with the reality of becoming who he really wants to be NECESSITATES to a large extent, the forgetting and leaving behind the unstable, unreliable and dangerous person that he used to be.
Now thats good human commentary, a splash of Sci fi, seasoned with just a bit of comedy and drama.
Now thats good trek.
At least Rutherford found a use for the Delta Flyer after Voyager
*@The Lost Subrosian ~* The following is _'Beta'_ Canon (NON-official, but generally accepted by the ST-community), drawn from *[Star Trek Online* (STO) *MMO-RPG* (2010-present 2022)] so take this with a grain of salt... *;)*
1. *_Return & Repurposed_** ~* The Delta Flyer *_WOULD_* find continued service after the USS Voyager's successful 'Odyssey'-journey back from the Delta Quadrant to the Alpha Quadrant. Starfleet would see the value in the Delta Flyer, and make use of the design.
2. *_Redesigned & Reclassified_** ~* The Starfleet Engineering Corps, with a team headed up by (promoted) Lt. Commander B'Elanna Torres-Paris and (still same ranked) Lt. Tom Paris, the Delta Flyer design would undergo extensive redesign and refit to more current (25th Century) Starfleet standards & Federation technologies. Eventually, the updated refit-design would be reclassified as the _Delta-class_ High Velocity Shuttle.
3. *_Rapid Response_** ~* In the STO-era (ST-year 2409-2412+), the _Delta_ HVS sees service in Starfleet as a Rapid Response shuttlecraft, with assignment (usually just 1-2) to many capital starships, and squadrons (5) in-use at planetary garrisons &/or watch-posts across Federation space.
- a.) Larger than a standard (TNG) shuttlecraft, but smaller than a (DS9) Runabout, a _Delta_ HVS can fit up to 6 people. Excellent for sending a squad of personnel to (short range) locations quickly.
- b.) The _Delta_ HVS has a stable maximum Warp Speed of 9.98, but (rather obviously) a short range. Some _Delta_ HVS are equipped with Quantum Slipstream Drive (Warp 20 speed), but also only for short range QSD jumps; having a QSD also drastically reduces passenger capacity (max 2).
- c.) The _Delta_ HVS is armed with a Phaser Array, Transphasic (shield- & armor-penetrating) Torpedoes, and Tachyon Beam (shields- & sensors-disrupting) Emitters.
Given how durable it is and it's use for long range capacities i wouldn't be surprised if the Delta flier became a quasi if not fully standard design across star fleet. Something that could fulfill similar jobs to the runabout class
It's kinda brilliant how many life lessons the writers can put into this show. This particular episode showed how different you think between early and late 20s while the 2nd episode focused on "sometimes" taking risks to advance your life and the 1st one on how you don't need to do everything yourself and rely on others.
Tendi is my favorite LD character, but man after this episode Rutherford is certainly contesting that.
I love that young Rutherford ship looks like an x-wing a subtle star trek vs star wars jab
Hm? There were ships that looked like that among the ships being raced by the Delta Flyer in the Voyager episode "Drive," so it seems more like a reference to those.
@@philtkaswahl2124 I'm looking at a screenshot of the starting line up of that race and I don't see anything that resembles young Rutherford's ship at all, but it sure does follow a lot of Star Wars design quirks.
@@posindustries Look at the line up again. One that's a cockpit with two gold-glowing nacelles on pylons is right next to the Delta Flyer (which is what I immediately thought of first time I saw the episode and its race reference). Also one with quad pylons-ironically more X-Wing like-in the foreground as the race starts.
EDIT: Mind, I'm kind of the same mind as EC Henry and his vids on ship design, so it takes more than superficial similarities for me to consider something as "Star Warsy" in design. And there are parts of Rutherford's ship that don't twig "SW design language" to me.
Either that, or a Viper
More like a Y-wing than an X-wing.
Great, depressing line from Young!Rutherford I love is when he hears his older self has his friends serving as his crew cries, "That ain't fair!"
He's not talking about his enemy having a crew.
Mariner doing a job with no Back Sass... definitely someone's imagination!
I loved this scene so much felt like Star Wars the Phantom Menace meets Star Trek Voyager's episode Drive. Rutherford really earned my respect with this episode.
Probably my favorite episode out of Season 3 so far. Rutherford's backstory being explored is really great considering we've at least gotten snippets of the other Lower Decks crew, but never anything from Rutherford but a single clip in the season 2 finale.
I'm guessing Eugene Cordero had a hand in naming the Sampaguita, with his Filipino heritage.
Moral of the story: Friendship triumph over Rogueship.
"If you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far...go together." :)
Saving his enemy/rival/self is Rutherford's moral, starfleet-ness. Great inspiration, growth. and writing.
Ngl, when I saw he built the Delta Flyer and even wore the outfit, I freaked out a little. I know it's derided a lot, but Voyager is probably still my favorite of all the ST series
Old Rutherford's cockpit pod looks suspiciously like a BSG viper lol.
Rutherford friends will all ways have his back
That is the true driving force behind Lower Decks. These four will back each other’s play.
Theres something here that I think most people have overlooked and havent really put much mind into and thats the fact that Rutherford here is an absolute GENIUS. He is far smarter than La Forge, B'lanna, Tucker, Scotty, or even O'Brien as he has not only built a custom Cerritos scale model with a WORKING Warp Core and working Phasers, but he has also the complete engineering schematics of the Delta Flyer committed to memory so well that he can perfectly replicate one and build one himself INCLUDING the Borg tech that would be unobtainable for him.
Yes, I know this is the mindscape and he can conjure up anything here, but instead of fully making the DF just appear out of nowhere, he actually built it from scratch.
Im willing to bet that the Cerritos was a sleeper ship filled with some of the brightest and most advanced that Starfleet has to offer but were far too chaotic to serve on a frontline cruiser and were regulated to a supply workhorse instead.
Technically, he might be accessing data saved to his implant, even if it and his brain is kind of a mess. (And why _wouldn't_ he save the Delta Flyer schematics to his personal hard drive? It's the kind of thing that might come in handy someday!) But yeah, he's sure simulating an awful lot within his noggin at once.
0:12 I just noticed that the console over young-Rutherford's shoulder is the same UI as the USS Aledo in the finale. Nice callback/foreshadowing!
and also M-5. Even more callback/foreshadowing!
It's more than that. Remember how he got injured in the first place: He was working on that very racer, his pride and joy, and the engine overloaded and exploded.
*I will burn your heart in a fire*
I miss the old Romulan ship designs 😊
I like imagination Boimler, he’s completely unfazed by Romulans.
LOVE hearing the theme when we see the rest of Delta shift
Beta shift. Delta ship are the *_worst_*.
Someday Mariner is actually going to say okey dokey and I just hope I'm there to see it.
This scene was badass
1:18 Freeze Frame!
I commend the animators for having the beams illuminate the bottom of the ship.
The crazy geniuses over at Corridor Crew recreated Star Wars' Trench Run and added that effect also.
I'm a little supprised that Starfleet didn't adopt these as an alternative to the Daunabe class since it can fill much the same role.
Not quite as adaptive as the runabout. It's especially about the range.
After three seasons when that LD leitmotif and theme kick in, it's hitting me in the feels.
You can see Tendi briefly at 1:21
1:53 damn that warbird was done well
I like the uniforms Rutherford and the others are wearing. Which series are they from?
Voyager, I believe.
The "Racing Uniform" appeared in Voyager's 7th season episode "Drive," where Tom enters the second Delta Flyer into a race.
@@auriliagilneas Yep. A sleek and popular one-off design. Still holds up as well!
The... Uhh, thing that old Rutherford appears to have built is... Well, I'll break it down part by part.
I see two early Brahms model nacelle, like those used on the Cheyenne class, a cockpit module that appears to be stolen from a Battlestar Galactica viper, and an oversized engine module maybe from an... Old United Earth Pioneer class. Maybe in house though.
Rutherford (current) really outwitted his past self. He created the Delta Flier, and used the 'anything goes' clause in the rules to create a crew of his best friends. By itself, the Flyer wouldn't beat Rutherford's (past) racing shuttle, but with a fully equipped and trained crew aboard? There was no way he wouldn't win.
when i first saw this episode, i was honestly expecting the two different Memories to join together at the end, and we would get to see next episode how different but Similar Ruth is with both kinds of Personalities and Memories
Oh hey look: old Rutherford has the M5 panel in his ship, the same we see with the Aledo. Maybe the Ai started out as his copilot because he had no friends? Maybe he tried to create a friend...
At one point, there's this annoyed look on Boimler's face--and just like that, I find myself imagining he's descended from Sesame Street's Bert.
Fabricated Americans for the win!
I kinda wish Rutherfords past personality somewhat melded with his own. Not to where the Rutherford we know completely changes, but to the point where he has some aspects of his old self. Just seems kinda sad for his old self to die while being locked out of his own body
Delta Flyer I love.... and the white pilot uniform
0:13 is that the M5 computer?
So what do we think Rutherford was working on that Starfleet covered it up? Because I doubt any type of engine would require that much corrupt secrecy and backhand dealings...
That could just be the tip of the iceberg. Mybe that engine was going to be fited into something big. Or just a stepping stone to something like the U.S.S vengeance in Star trek into darkness. Mybe even the tech they were using was dangerous. So dangerous that star fleet would not aprove its use. That's my guess.
@@karlolson1363 I'm impressed that this COMEDY Trek show had fans theorizing as much about as they would a normal Trek show.
Meanwhile, in ‘the other series’…
“We can’t ever reveal the spore drive. It’s caused too much corrupt secrecy and backhand dealings.”
@@mngentry As far as I'm concerned LD *is* a Trek show ... about a crew not quite ready for first contact. With more jokes, obscure callbacks, and off-the-wall situations. I mean, is Tendi turning into a giant scorpion any weirder than Janeway and Paris turning into salamanders?
Is it just me, or is the D'Deridex warbird fly-by engine sounds just somebody playing with their voice through a voice processor?
Smh. Playmates Toys made Prodigy figures, then Paramount pulls the plug on the show. Lower Decks has had 3 seasons and still no action figures. What's going on, toy maker? Where's the smarts? I'd pick up Boimler in a heartbeat. Rutherford and Tendi are tied for 2nd place in my mind...
What I really want to know who would that to him force him to forget his old life
Question: in episode 1 Boimler says Rutherford is a new cyborg. But this episode is saying everything happened 10 years ago. So what happened? Was Rutherford in suspension until recently? Was he doing other work & they just deleted his memories? Are we going to meet someone who knew him before, like family or academy classmates?
Probably just a continuity error but my explanation is that Rutherford got transferred to the cerritos after some issue that forced them to overwrite his memory again(or he was just in stasis and they needed an excuse for the missing time) so they implanted memories of him working on another ship without the implant to make him pass it off as something new to the cerritos.
@@NotTheLastSoL could be. From the start of episode 1 we don’t know how long anyone has been there, except Tendi. The whole gang could have only known each other for a year, plus what’s considered a “new cyborg”. I think it would be an interesting plot to see what happen those 10 years
How time passes fron the start of the series to now?
@@NotTheLastSoL Yep, pretty much my take: continuity error, but they could retcon as false memories. Alternatively the first implant was less visible, but he began to remember after nearly a decade. So they slapped the external Vulcan one on him, and he merged the memories of two surgeries. (IIRC the flashback at the end of season 2 had only the two surgeons, so maybe the third figure was only there for the first one.) That way his memories would match his verifiable career ... mostly.
FWIW, the current three seasons apparently occurred over two years or less. (The season 3 opener occurs soon after the season 2 cliffhanger.)
This implies that the romulans never bothered to report/complain to the federation about all the racers on their turf and have fun taking potshots instead. :P
something tells me this is not the first time the younger version took over and may not be the last
Rogue planets?!
Let the past die. Kill it, if you have to.
Ok I’ve only really seen this show when it comes to Star Trek lore but why do Romulans care so much about racers
The... Uhh, thing that old Rutherford appears to have built is... Well, I'll break it down part by part.
I see two early Brahms model nacelle, like those used on the Cheyenne class, a cockpit module that appears to be stolen from a Battlestar Galactica viper, and an oversized engine module maybe from an... Old United Earth Pioneer class. Maybe in house though.