Friday the 13th (1980) vs. Friday the 13th (2009)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ต.ค. 2024
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Time Stamps:
Background info on F13 (1980) - 2:04
Background info on F13 (2009) - 8:44
Plot Comparison - 12:17
Character Comparison - 15:52
Style Comparison - 22:38
Theme Comparison - 27:13
Overall Comparison - 29:13
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On DVD featurette, Betsy Palmer said she needed a car after her last one broke down and being in Friday the 13th would've afforded her a new one. She went on to say that she thought no one would remember the film after it's release, of course that wasn't the case and she became an icon.
Ahhh okay thanks for the info!
I thought Betsy Palmer did a great job as being the main antagonist. Heck, I would even dare say she was scarier then Jason. That's not easy to do.......😄
Betsy Palmer may have needed a new car, but later on she actually embraced her character, when she started going to horror conventions, and she was shocked at how long her line was with fans.
She would ask them what exactly was it about her character that fans liked, and it was something along the lines of how she's a mother who's willing to kill for her child.
I have never seen anyone get as wacky at a con as Betsy Palmer! That lady was delightfully nuts🤣❤️🙏🏼
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I wish I would have met her, I only started going to these things around 2019. Hopefully I get to meet Ted White from Friday the 13th part 4. I know Kane Hodder is everyone's favorite, bit something about Ted White's Jason frightens me.
@@molasorrosalom4846 OMFG, she was on a panel with Adrienne King, Tom Savini, Sean Cunningham, and some other folks, and Betsy was cursing and telling stories, and just cracking everybody up🤣. What a treasure❤️. And I love Ted White!
I personally love both films in different ways, The original is scary because of the mystery behind who's killing the characters and the ending where Jason came out of the lake to attack Alice scared the shit out of me the very first time I watched this. The reboot scared me because of the sheer brutality of Jason and how you I can kind of sympathize with him because if you saw your mother get decapitated in front of you like that it would probably mentally fuck up your mind and cause you to have a lot of hatred. Also because I have a disability myself and my mom is protective of me at times so I kinda connect with Jason over any other slasher villian.
Your delivery is so smooth and natural. I know you have aspirations far beyond TH-cam, but you are really exceptional at this.
Hey HH! Thanks for the video!
Not entirely sure why it was a reboot; it could have just as easily been just another sequel imo
100% yes to a Pet Sematary comparison!
I had NO clue it was so cold on the original Friday the 13th shoot I really couldn’t tell at all. Also love Betsy Palmer’s backstory for Pamela, I kind of wish that was incorporated more in the film because it’s so interesting! Agree that Alice is a pretty weak final girl too. You’ve killed it yet again girl 🔥
Tough one. I can't decide. I like the idea of Pyscho in reverse and it's a crazy old lady hiding in the woods. The great thing about the remake, you can view it as a sequel. It just introduces Jason to newcomers by sticking 1 to 3 and then we can get back to Jason killing teenagers.
Just discovered your channel and am currently binge watching the comparison videos, dig your style. You should make a comparison of Child's Play (original) with the 2019 remake somewhere down the line
Aw thank you! A child’s play comparison is coming soon!
You’re choice in beer is on point!!! Good commentary too. You do your research for sure.
Loved the analysis!! You’re always making the MOST entertaining content 🤍
Glad you enjoy :) ❤️
At 0:43 you have me in tears 🤣🤣🤣 that echo with what you said was funny af
Awesome intro, Kylie! Between the two versions of Friday the 13th, I obviously like the 1980 original movie more because it's the film that started it all. It also blew my mind when I discovered on the Dead Meat TH-cam channel that the killer in the OG Friday the 13th was Jason's mother, Pamela Voorhees and not Jason Voorhees himself until the Part 2 and so on. I thought that Alice Hardy was an AWESOME final girl who defended herself against Pamela, who got decapitated by Alice. It freaking sucks that Jason killed Alice at the beginning of Part 2.
The final girl in the 2009 reboot was not too shabby and the story as a whole was okay.
Great video kylie! Have to go with the original for nostalgia purposes. And also I love Adrienne King. She's actually an artist in real life and even has her own winery named after friday the 13th called crystal lake wines. She's a sweetheart. But the original to me also has the most likeable characters, best atmosphere and best musical score. Awesome vid!
Oh that’s awesome! I didn’t know that!
Trent didn't care about whether or not saying those things to a woman are proper or not.
Your Intro Perfectly Sums Up The Friday The 13th Universe & It's Overall Premise
0:42 Best Part Of The Intro 😂😂
I'm really hyped to see you have a different opinion on the remake now. I've always really enjoyed it
Yea it’s such a good time!
I loved that intro 😂 once again another great video keep up the great work
You know, when I went into the theater and saw 2009's Friday, I left very Meh about it. However, over the years its become one of my favorites of the franchise and as a whole, I feel its a pretty solid movie. I actually prefer it, and most, over the original as far as rewatchability. I get bored with the original. I respect it. I'm grateful for it, but the truth is, no one is here anymore for Ms. Voorhees. We come for Jason and 2009 gave us a great Jason. It was such a refresher from the sleepy Jason we got in Freddy vs Jason. I thought the kills were good. The shock that came when our would be final girl died got an audible gasp from the audience. The opening sequence is intense. Jason is brutal. Its just an all around fun time.
Trent's dialogue in the reboot during the s3x scene...its so cringe. It was at that point I really wanted his demise to be painful, lol
My sister and her friends were all nearly ten years older than I am and I'd hear them talking about this scary Friday The 13th movie. So I HAD to see it. As a kid, it creeped me out. They picked the perfect place to film it, NoBeBoSco. That place had/has a vibe about it. Then I watched the Scream Greats vhs with Tom Savini being interviewed. I got to meet him years later when I was 14 and I was so starstruck that I had no idea what to say to him. But he put one arm around me and one arm around my sister and we took a picture together. That's one of my best memories. I like how Betsy Palmer referred to him as Tommy Savini, like he was one of the neighborhood kids who played with her kid.
I hated the remake.
Omg, your intro! One of your best.
Dead! 🤣💀
Thank you 🥺❤️
26:29 I believe the line after that was “you have perfect nipple placement babe” hahaha
most of THE best intros ive eva seen.
Great video, but if the intro was considered a short film I would give it five stars on letterboxd lol, that was hilarious 😂. I love the t shirt too! I gotta get me one of those
Aw thank you so much! 😆
I like the reboot more too. Definitely appreciate what the original spawned though!
I actually loved the remake, the music, the suspense, the way Jason was depicted. It's a shame they never made a sequel to it, because it wasn't a flop by any means.
True, the majority of the characters were lame, but it's a "Friday the 13th," movie.
I feel like the execution of the remake wasn’t the best, but I loved how they tried to do something different. Also can we address the bi-panic from the 2009 cast 😭😭
Ahahaha facts
Kylie if u don't mind me asking you've said u were a horror fan since u were a kid but u only first watched the big 3 a cpl yrs ago if I remember correctly. What's up with that lol and nice intro btw 😄
Well I grew up on the horror that came out when I was growing up haha older horror wasn’t as accessible
@@HauntedHippie oh I get u, i wasn't an 80s or even watched horror in the 90s guy but whenever I saw them on cable I would watch them. Or buy them if I saw them in stores. But I'm not judging, u definitely know ur horror. Probably much broader knowledge than me and most others in the genre so I can't say anything nor would I
At 0:26 can't forget the beer 😂😂
At 17:37 those were some mean slaps to the face 😂😂😂
I only like the original F13 and Part 2. I think the original had the best atmosphere out of all the films and Mrs Voorhies is awesome. I like Part 2, it was a worthy continuation, I like sack-head Jason and Ginny who was by far the best main protagonist. The rest I just don't care for.
Ginny is the best!
Part 2 is the best film in the series.
Great setting.
Likeable cast.
Great final girl.
Good kills.
Good story.
Jason.
As fun as the remake is, I litteraly laughed out loud in disapointment when you said its your friends favorite horror movie. Maybe I shouldn't because 2003 TCM is in my top 20 for sure but theres a big difference.
It was the first horror movie he ever saw in a theater, it’s a nostalgia thing lol
The good ol hold your breath trick to stop hiccups doesn't work unfortunately
I literally watched the intro 7 times and it's a vibe!! Loved the movie comparisons hot take i actually like the Friday The 13th remake a whole bunch !! ❤😌🙌🏽
Ahahaha thank you!!
i remember when this first came out (the remake), I reeeeally did not like it lol. But I recently rewatched it on a whim with some friends, and I ended up enjoying it way more. The first is my favorite still, but the remake is still definitely a solid and fun watch.
I love that opening love your content and this series ❤️
In the scene where the counselors are swimming, the lake is surrounded by lush green trees. I doubt this scene could have been filmed during the “cold season”, unless you mean like April/May before the lake really warmed up from summer. 🧐
Cunningham gave not bad advice but even now breaking into smaller features is incredibly difficult. If you’re on the creative side of the industry such as script doctor, scriptwriting, direction you’re gonna need a hook up or incredible luck
Off topic, but I’m watching all of the Scream movies before Scream 5 and I’m so freaking excited.
another great perspective,thanks.
We stan Sky High! 18:13
I first saw her on the DCOM "Stuck in the Suburbs." 🤣
I’ll be honest….. I’ve never seen the full Friday the 13th franchise. I just… can’t.. get.. into them. I’ve tried man, I’ve tried. The remake, however, scared the fuck outta me. The first 15 minutes scared me so much. I was like damn, Jason is a badass. I’m gonna give it a shot to watch the Friday movies one more tiiiime, but I don’t know when! Lol! Also, you look soooo cute in your shirt!!! Xoxo
Practical effects are so much better than modern CGI.
Long comment incoming. Please stick around until the end, I'd like people's opinion on something after my thoughts on the movie.
Yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, YES.
This is honestly my favorite Friday the 13th movie of all time (although in all honestly, I just watched Never Hike Alone and Never Hike in the Snow for the first time yesterday and they come pretty damn close. Also didn't know Jason Rising was related to them, so I'll have to check that one out as well) So I have a lot of thoughts regarding Jason.
I agree entirely that this Jason is the absolute best iteration of the character, not just with how massive and intimidating he is, not just because of his ability to haul ass when necessary, making him even scarier. But also because of how smart he is. He's no Michael Meyers, but this one is a lot less of a dunce than the original. One thing I also appreciate about this film is keeping Pamela relegated to a flashback. Don't get me wrong, Pamela Voorhees is an amazing character and Betsy Palmer did an amazing job portraying her. But I do not think she's main villain material. Especially in a who-done-it style slasher like the original film. Her story was very much tacked on at the very end of the movie aside from ONE reference to it at the start, then all of a sudden we're supposed to care about her when we've already invested so much energy into caring about our main lead. And on top of that, I find it extremely hard to believe she could murder all of them without detection or issue. Her story works best purely as a backstory for Jason himself. And I'm curious whether or not you agree. Conversely, I also love how territorial Jason feels in this movie. He was very much one note in the originals, where in this movie he feels like someone just trying to live his life alone and killing anyone who gets too close.
(My own ideas rant incoming. Buckle up)
So this is the franchise I've put the most thought into and have the most attachment to. If you saw my comment on your Halloween vs Rob Zombie Halloween video, you might remember I mentioned that I base my opinion on what Michael's story should be off of what Jason's is, concluding that Jason pulls off the broken child backstory and character better than Michael, something you also stated you agree with. I wanna make a movie that actually dives more into his humanity. And I had an idea for it. Firstly, I would want to show a bit more of his childhood and Pamela's acts, ultimately ending in Jason seeing Pamela's death like in the remake flashback, but ending with him following after Alice to kill her after she killed Pamela. But more importantly, both the original with Jason (so part 2) and the remake utilize the final girl's likeness to his mother a means to gain an advantage over him and get away. I think that actually has potential for the final girl to instead learn about Jason. Also thinking maybe she could be a former camper, so when she sees Jason's face, she starts to put the pieces together because she saw the incident where he "drowned" and rumor probably spread regarding Pamela's murders and subsequent death. So like in the remake, she would spend a lot of time with him in his hideout in between him going up to kill, hunt, check his traps, etc. And by the time someone comes to save her, she's protective of Jason, who likewise becomes protective of her, then things begin to devolve. It would be very Stockholmy, but I just think it'd be an interesting twist on the original. He obviously reports Jason and the girl to authorities and they both become fugitives, maybe attempting to arrest Jason and get the girl away from him, maybe she convinces them to try getting him psychiatric help, but he's not having it and just kinda gets them into more trouble and they're now basically on the run. And there would have to be something showing how tough he is, so maybe he seemingly gets killed by officers after resisting one too many times, but as the girl is being taken, he gets back up, scares the shit out of them, and hauls ass to save her. So they try running away, but the police are hot on their tails and they eventually get cornered in some building and the police are trying to break in. And I think this could be a scene where she ultimately comes to a decision that Jason needs to stay safe and he can't do that anymore with her because she'd keep getting him into trouble and he'd constantly put himself at risk protecting her. And she can't just walk away because she would be arrested eventually and potentially used to get to Jason. So she forces him to kill her, which is the first time we ever see Jason reluctant to do so. And then he finally manages to make himself do it and she tells him it's ok as she's dying, then the police break in after she dies. And then Jason is just sitting there and they try to arrest him, but then Jason begins hearing not only Pamela's voice like before, but also final girl's. With some pauses between.
Pamela: Jason...
Girl: Jason...
Pamela: They need to be punished, Jason...
Girl: You need to stay safe, Jason...
Both: Kill them.
At which point he goes OFF and slaughters all the cops in the building before disappearing into the night, obviously back to Camp Crystal Lake.
Very curious to see what you and others think. I'm very proud of the idea, but I understand it loses a lot of the typical horror tone most of these movies are known for.
Funny thing is the lawsuit gives the writer of The first movie the rights. But unfortunately Jason Voorhees the way we know him. Is NOT a part of the ownership.
So they can make a movie with the mom but not include Hockey Mask Jason.
Have you seen American Werewolf in London yet? I haven't seen you mention it. I believe it won an Oscar for its special effects. Hair and Make up for the transformation scene, even though most of the scene is animatronic. I guess the "Academy" just wanted to acknowledge the transformation.
Not yet! But want to haha
I watched the remake in theaters and I loved it! Everyone could not wait for Trevor to pass away and when he did everyone started laughing and cheering. It was a good time and I personally prefer the remake over the first one
2:50 “The guy who did the score” the level of disrespect for Harry Manfredini.. 😬
I forgot one name sue me
Trent’s death is the best due to it being the most brutal and it’s done to a most hated character. Imo, it’s the most memorable and appreciated because of those elements lol.
Thank you. Yes, I loved the remake. When it first came out everyone hated it, but I don't think they watched it with a fresh mindset. They went in thinking, "Remakes bad. Only original. " I have noticed a big uptick of love for it recently though. Jason isnt just this big dumb brute in the newer one. He's calculated and he's pissed ppl are bothering him in his territory and it makes him scarier. Plus, I really like derek Mears
Making Jason like a trap making survivalist type is one of the best choices in horror movie remakes.
Traps, just like part 2!
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I prefer the original because of the ''whodunit'' scenario and the plot twist at the end.
2009 is literally my favorite Friday the 13th films and definitely my favorite Jason Voorhees version
I like the original Friday The 13th with Kevin Bacon.
You should totally do a Pet Cemetery comparison. It, too...
Alright Dark Hippie Hotty.what is your favorite movie horror movie ever? You are young and I'm old and watched most of these movie when I was 10.so with one? Make you videos 15min but got mad respect so keep going and make us feel old charlie out 😎☮️❤️
There is no contest. The original by a long shot. Betsy Palmer should've gotten an Oscar nod. She is so creepy and effective.
I forgot her name but the woman who plays Jason's mom , said she only did Friday the 13th to buy a car , I don't know if she was joking , but I remember seeing her say she did this movie to get a car or get her car fixed
my favorite kill of the original friday the 13th was jack it's memorable and i love u can see kevin bacon visible react to a malfunction when to much blood spurts out of the tube and my favorite kill of the remake was amanda's death as it's just so gnarly and it really highlights that new jason is not playing around in the slightest.
The Friday the 13th series makes no sense but if you try to MAKE IT make sense, it’s actually pretty cool… Mrs Voorhees kills because she associates the camp, teenagers, and sex, with the death of Jason even though these teenagers had nothing to do with his death. (“look what you did to him”). Jason does the same thing, he basically sees teens and sex as “bad” or “sinful” and maybe he sees kids as good, which is why he doesn’t try to straight up kill Tommy in Part 4. Maybe in his messed up mind, he’s trying to protect Tommy from the “evil teenagers” because he thinks it’s right
I rewatched the 09 version recently. I am not one of the people who thinks it's better today, than it was in 09 lol.
In original Jason was in fact dead the film is a portrayal of a scorned mother driven mad by grief and isolation
Hi, just to be clear, Jason was definitely supposed to be dead in the original movie, but when they saw that the movie had been a success and decided to make a sequel, it was decided that Jason hadn't drowned, which doesn't invalidate Mrs. Voorhees' actions, because from her point of view, Jason was in fact dead.
I agree w your assessment of these movies. Friday the 13th, part 1 is my least fav of the first 4 movies. And the remake is much more enjoyable, also I like the pacing better. Check out Behind the Monsters on Shudder. They go though a different horror icon on each episode. After this, I'll be watching the Jason episode tonight. Thanks.
I’m planning on it!
Rank ALL the Friday the 13th final girls
I'm pretty sure Trent's dialogue in that sex scene was intentionally comedic. If you remember the Crystal Lake documentary discussing the films, Travis Van Winkle didn't want to say "Your tits are stupendous", but the production told him to do so because it would get a laugh, so he did it.
Pet Sematary comparison would be cool. As for Friday...I think the low budget look of the original adds to the creepiness. 2009 looks too glossy. What the hell am I watching here? Fashion Ad ready Jason? That lighting...I believe it was none other than Edgar Allen Poe who, in one of his last interviews stated "Michael Bay and horror films don't mix".
Could you please do A Nightmare on Elm Street(1984) vs A Nightmare On Elm Street(2010)! I know you've already done a review but would mean so much to me as I am one of the only fans of the remake.
It’s coming!
fire analysis
I think remake Jason is the scariest Jason also fun fact Jason is played by Derek Mears in that film who also played Swamp Thing which is easily one of my favorite comic book characters they really need to make a Swamp Thing horror film and have Derek Mears reprise his role because he was amazing
waiting for the elm street comparison 👁👁
Oh it’s coming!
I really enjoy the remake even though it isn’t a great film. I don’t like the original at all. I love the RM vs OG vids! Can’t wait for more
If people identify with Betsy Palmer's portrayal of Pamela Voorhees, I think it's for the same reason people get into revenge fantasy movies like Tarantino's movies. The slights you or your someone you love experience every day are ramped up and so is the retribution. You get the catharsis of watching those people being punished in some brutal way.
I’m a big fan of the reboot to be honest. The Bree and Trent scene tho 😭😭
Original is slow paced and boring, but ofc it’s a classic and we love it.
Betsy Palmer wanted a new car so she took the job.
Greatest jump-scares in horror film history:
1. Carrie
2. Friday the 13th
3. Silent Rage*
It would have been nice to see a follow up of Friday the 13th 2009 , it was pretty good actually . Friday 1980 was good but definitely boring at times . I give the edge to the Original because it started a great horror franchise and the storyline was was good ..
My fav kill is the cop with the fire poker in the eye is my fav
YESSS YESSS YESSS YESSS !!! MY BEST SEMINAR !!!!
goshhh the things the remake has made me feel.
I completely agree that it has the best Jason . It’s just so creepy and not cartonnish
I will always appreciate the original cause if that movie didn’t exist , I wouldn’t have my fave off all time .
Omg YES A PET SEMATARY video is necessary cause the remake receives so much hate
My fave k*ill would have to be the burning tent scene cause it just shows how brutal Jason can be . Like he actually enjoys making his victim suffer .
Facts omg I can’t believe I didn’t even mention the sleeping bag death 😂
5:13 Betsey Palmer only did the movie because her car broke down and she needed the money to buy a new vehicle
Friday The 13th is one of the best debut horror movies n history and I do love the remake of Friday The 13th it's a awesome remake.
I honestly have a hard time picking one over the other.. if I had to pick one to watch tonight I'd pick the reboot although it's basically just me picking the lesser of two evils.. I really like the Friday the 13th franchise as whole but neither films would be in my top 5 Friday films.. I respect the original and really like the vibe, but it can be pretty boring and the acting isn't great.. I don't really get too excited when it's on TV.. I saw the reboot in theaters and thought it was okay.. there's actually a lot that I do like about it despite it ultimately being your typical modern slasher.. the characters and formula are pretty cliche.. the one thing that I absolutely hate about the film is how the final act is filmed.. the lighting is extremely dark with the shaky cam going on, it's very annoying to watch and lowkey ruins the film for me.. it's similar to the reason that I hate the final act in Rob Zombie's Halloween as well.. but there are some cool scenes as well and Jason looks pretty badass... you should compare the Pet Sematary films..
Love this series!
Fun video but please movie the cable out of frame. :)
To be fair, the 2009 "remake" isnt a remake of this original film it is primarily a remake, certain aspects, of films 2, 3, and 4.
The remake was OK. It had a bit of TCM '03 feel to it and Jason's "look" was basically Sloth from Goonies. Also, button up Jason's GD shirt!!! Mears did a fine job and is my 5th favorite Jason behind White, Brooker, Dash then CJ.
*The remake was better than 7-10.
That intro 🤣🤣🤣
Despite the flaws, the 1980 original still owned the 2009 remake. The reason why was simple: Kids are believable ordinary teenagers. There’s something naive and likable in their casting and performances. In the 2009 version everyone is a winner of the genetic lottery as annoying cliche frat boys & girls. Their death didn’t feel like loss but release from their acting. Jared Padalecki and his salon quality hair from Supernatural had plot armor Jason had no hope of cutting through. Also the time periods were different. The 80s had a lot of freaky child disappearances murders so Hollywood was doing their own Grimm Fairy Tales Spin: Go camping and have sex, this might happen! While 2000s slasher horror genre kind of died with the invention of the mobile phone.
My Favorite Kill In The Original Movie Is Hands Down Pamela Voorhees's Decapitation. It's STILL To This Day So Satisfying To Watch.
My Favorite Kill In The Remake Is Jenna's Death In The Tunnel Because It Was So Unexpected & Yet It's The One Death In The Franchise I To This Day STILL Can't Stand & Find It Shockingly Infuriating To Watch Because I Loved Her Character Too Much.
The Girl Burning In The Sleeping Bag Kill Was Also One Of My Personal Favorites. It's So Crucial & I Felt Her Pain Through The Screen Everytime I Watch That Death.
Yesss I can definitely get behind your logic!
My pick is the original over the remake. The original is my 4th fave and the remake is 6th. The main reasons are the atmosphere is superior in it and we have an actual final girl, who I actually like. But with each rewatch I enjoy the remake more and more.
Fave kill in original: Kevin Bacon's death
Remake: Girl hung over the fire.
Do you realize that Pamela was under the cot the entire time Jack (Kevin Bacon) banged Marcie?
Didn't the very concept of a Friday the 13th remake suck to begin with? Michael Bay, right? That alone begins to spell "suck." Michael DeLuca, however...that's a Friday the 13th I'll go and see.
I prefer the original, I like the first four Fridays the most out of the franchise. Still like the 2009 one tho
Me personally I liked the original movie 😊😊
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And your videos
If I had to choose one it will be the reboot just because the kills and also Jason was a beast in the movie what ruined the film for me was too many boob shots story was lagging in many ways but overall I give both movies 2 out of 5 stars ⭐️⭐️
The fact they made FT13 to rip off Halloween proves that there wouldn't be Jason without Michael.
Miguelbrymn, you know what is funny? That the writer and director admit it's a rip off of Halloween, but many who LOVE Friday the 13th say it isn't a rip off at all. I enjoy 1-4 but there is no getting around the fact that the original was made specifically to cash in on the Halloween craze, which was a big surprise when it raked in so much dough in 1980.
@@opaque4742probably the reason why the friday the 13th sequels and remake are better than original
John Carpenter in the interview said that he made halloween because he was influenced by the black christmas movie, so technically. Without black christmas. No michael myers and halloween franchise
Sierra Nevada pale ale... excellent choice
Last comment I swear. 🤣
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Danielle Panabaker should have been the final girl instead of the sister. I will die on this hill.
I agree 😂
I’m all about the Original
I want the pet sematary thing
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