@@user-pe6ct7ut8texploiting (especially when the exploit is this bad) should be considered the exact same as cheating. Hiding inside a locker even though your hit box is still present to avoid hits is literally the same thing as cheating, and is something a cheater can and will do.
cheat = act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination. (google dictionary 🤓). the advantage is th ability to infinitely heal and be invulerable so yea@@user-pe6ct7ut8t
I like how quiet the Ripley got when he said they'll be losing their 600 hour account and just left their brain damaged friend to try defend themselves for being shit at the game.
Doesn't really matter what the devs say when they made the meta to be most efficient about tunneling one player out of the match asap. They can say whatever they want, but if they don't act on it, their words are meaningless.
@@user-pe6ct7ut8t I'll say it again, buff DS's stun timer back up to 5 seconds and if the devs want it to possibly be shorter, allow Enduring to work on it again (lowering it to the current 3 seconds). The anti-tunneling perks need to be strong at punishing the killer to make them think twice if tunneling is the best play right now. Until they do, it can always generate significant snowball as having one less player to keep track of is always a great option if its available. Note: The current base kit changes are all good and dandy, but BT is no longer really a good perk to prevent tunneling since now everyone has it. Killers know to either immediately eat the BT effect (rendering the perk useless) or they prefer to not tunnel in general. As they keep looking and hopefully shrinking the large maps, anti-tunneling mechanics will need to be stronger IMO as one of the largest issues for most killers (map traversal) will be less of a barrier to finding chases or other survivors quickly.
@@ynglink You already mentioned the snowball for Killer, and this is exactly what the balancing has to be about. A Killer has almost an impossible task trying to gain time vs 4 Survivors as in pretty much any scenario, you'll always have 1 survivor progressing the game forward. With 3 players however, there has to be a balance of survival and progress which gains the Killer significantly more time which is by coincidence, the only thing a Killer needs in order to perform. Also I believe one of the biggest problems here in terms of balancing is the obvious difference between soloQ and SwF which to be fair, is just hard to balance as giving soloQ hefty buffs will most likely also impact SwF, which is already stronger than Killer.
@@user-pe6ct7ut8t I didn't mention snowball more than once in that response? But either way. I agree in a lot of ways on the tactic being effective when used right and not fun at the same time. I play a lot of both sides and DS while super annoying, was at least a deterrent for tunneling. I do want it to be deactivated in End Game still no matter what though. Having 0-option to get a hook on someone at end game is not healthy either. The overall issue with balancing is that the game inherently isn't ever going to be balanced because of the ebb and flow of the game. 4-v-1's just really can't be perfectly balanced. So we should look at how unhealthy things are rather than if it's balanced, especially when looking at what the core gameplay issues are. They don't have anything to do with balancing things and are more akin to player behavior. Camping, Tunneling, Bullying, GenRushing, etc. I'd rather have a fun healthy game than a trying to balance a mess of a game like DBD. Address outlier perks, heavily shake the meta up at least twice a year, and focus on the core issues instead.
I like how they said they would only do the exploit if the killer was tunneling, camping or slugging yet the dredge clearly didn't do any of that and they still did the exploit anyway lol
That's how they do it i was playing huntress while this exploit was happening all the time and they always went in there when they were about to close had nothing to do with camping or tunneling, however survivors think they are so good so they try to go between the lockers like they did in this video and i just loaded a hatchet needle threaded between and got them gone so many times hahaha!
It’s a getaway excuse. These are the type of survivors who never touched killers once in their lives and yet they talk about game balance. There opinion matters very little because their whole life they only seen one perspective of the game. Using a exploit to gain an advantage or waste time is worst then face camping, slugging and any of that. Because at the end of the day you get match up with new killers even if you get tunnel to death whereas exploit like this you just waste everybody’s time, when you can literally move on to the next match. The things I never get about the complaint from survivors is that there whole idea is that “we can do it but you can’t”. Survivors can bully new killers to a point where they just become a survivor main but when they face good killers oh now game balancing gets talked about but not for the overall game just for survivors.
The MMR system apparently rewards 0-1 kill as a "loss" (MMR down), 2 kills as a "draw" (MMR stays the same), and 3-4 kills as a "win" (boosts your MMR). Until we get a more clear win condition, seems like a 3 or 4k is a "win" to me XD
It’s because solo Q survivors see the game as 1v1. They want to get max blood points and escape regularly. Meanwhile, the killer is managing 4 separate 1v1s and will feel like they lost the game even if they got 8 hooks but no kills.
@@paco_da_taco It's both. Killers have had exploits that benefitted them, and this is a survivor sided one. TBH he could just waited the 40-45mins in front of the 2 lockers, and he should auto win with the game server ending the game itself.
@@RedrumZombies In this case, the killer doesn't have any exploits so why is he the only one that gets blamed for actions while the survivors get to exploit?
@@paco_da_taco Did I blame the Dredge guy? No... All what you are saying just tells me you are like the killer side of these types..... And the game ends at 1hr total time with giving the killer the win. He could've waited instead of sweating and hoping they'd fool around. Less headache and it's currently patched and was undoable for the past week and a half.
i mean the killer has less than 200 hours at the game and was indeed camping and tunneling so yeah... still, is the fault of the survs for not bringing antitunnel perks in this meta tho.
I dont see how any1 camps and tunnels with a built in borrow time. Camping is usually only viable when every survivor is in the hook area and end game. Tunneling waste time with 2 hits + chase & letting 3 others fly through gens. I don't see hardly any benefit unless the survivors don't finish gens... kinda like these no life exploiting losers. I hope the basement Manchild quits DBD after being ban👋
@@RwvZNoMercy to some degree, that's true. I also think that having some emotional attachment is just normal though, ultimately you need to be able to take a step back but if people are just treating you like total dirt, being bothered is natural. It's what you do with that emotion that matters.
The survivors said that the dredge was camping but literally anyone to call zero hook camping literally needs to go touch some grass and rethink their life
@@XenoVT next to going to say just because there's a killer on the match that they are campers Etc I met several streamers so far they were the sweetest bunch there are ones I couldn't get sweet responses from either they never went live are either just playing while they weren't online
@@emilchristophersen3354 I dont know man, the way that dude talked he seemed to actually think shit like that was okay. I don't think he was being sarcastic at all lmao.
@@KingDarkHacksah yes exploiting because you refused to use the perks and items to help counter the gameplay style. I hope you get banned for exploiting lol
u can clearly see those 2 survivors never play killer and also forgot that surviviors can win the game even if they get killed while the killer needs his kills to progress. this just shows the "i escape i win" mentality but i feel like bug abusers should be treatet like cheaters this is not fair and i hope it will get fixed soon
The moment they said the game's killer sided I immediately thought oh god it's one of these idiots. these people can't understand that there are a lot of factors that play into each team having an advantage. Such as maps builds the killer the survivors. I've seen teams absolutely bully killers cause luck was on their side and they got the map they wanted and it worked extremely well with their build. I've seen killers absolutely destroy SWFs with their zero healing wesker build cause luck was on their side and they got a small map. So him saying survivors only have a 1 percent chance of escape doesn't factor in the skill of the survivors or are they a swf or solo? What builds are they running what is the killer and what is the map? Is the killer any good? What build is the killer running?
I'm not agreeing with these two at all, but the sad thing is that survivors don't win the game if they get killed. Because despite being a team-based role, the game's scoring system only cares about your individual performance. If one survivor gets tunneled out but the other 3 escape, then the game has two losers: the killer and the survivor who died. It doesn't matter if that one survivor bought enough time for the 3-man out, the game still thinks they lose in terms of their pips and their blood points. Also their MMR, but who cares about their MMR
@@Zakon673I mean, it's a team game, even with the game thinking you lose no matter if 3 people get out, that's still a win. Survivors lose when you get 3 or 4 kills
These dudes sound like actual genuine nerds trying to justify a full on exploit that makes it impossible for them to be attacked. Like they’re trying to talk about killer and survivor statistics and slugging and tunnelling as if it has anything to do with the actual topic. It’s a game breaking, impossible to counter exploit that goes against the fundamental principles of the game itself and yet they’re trying to whine about “oh but I get tunnelled and camped sometimes oh woe is me 🥺🥺🥺”
it's peak dbd player mentality. happens on both survivors and killers though with exploits like this it's worse on survivor side some people get a bad game and decide "you know what? i'll just ruin the next game for whoever else i go against even if they have nothing to do with my bad experience." it serves zero purpose except to ruin random players' fun for no actual reason, just because someone else wasn't nice to them.
@@holypeanutt I mean tbh even though I haven’t been in the DbD community for that long, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a killer-sided exploit on the same level as this locker bug like it’s insane that people were able to use it so frequently and easily like this. Like most killer bugs you see it’s like some random glitch that you can’t really control or use that well unless you’re either insanely lucky or you’re already skilled enough as a killer to where it doesn’t really matter anyways. But then with survivor exploits it’s like “yes I have this technique where I can infinitely blind you and none of us will ever be picked up ever” or “ I’m going to turn myself invisible and invincible and do 10 360 backflips where my team does all of the gens”
Runs a build around hiding in a locker and self healing , runs into the locker at the first chase . Ummm no actually I didn’t plan on doing it I only started it because you tunneled someone else . Uh huh righhht
my favorite part was when their bullshit statistics didn't even add up. "Survivors only escape 5 percent of the time while killers win 90!" So is the other five a "draw" then? Sources other than his own ass please? 🙄
Honestly, this exploit was worse than a Skull Merchant 3 genning for 60 minutes. This Dredge didn't deserve to go through this, especially with how the survivors argumented against him, trying to defend abusing bugs in the game to hold the killer hostage for an hour and yet he still prevailed. What an absolute trooper.
The skull merchant 3gen you could at least END it by suiciding / giving up / forcing the killer to kill you or maybe even win if team is good enough. Is it boring? sure, but at least you PLAY the game. Skull merchant cant keep you hostage. Sure you will lose but you CAN get out without DCing. This exploit they can literally just go a 2 man team and AFK in 2 lockers and that's it. Killer has to sit there for an hour.
Of course it's worse. As much as SM defending a 3 gen forever sucked, it wasn't an exploit. The survivors were knowingly taking advantage of a bug to hold the game hostage. That's very different from a stubborn boring killer playing the poorly designed SM.
@@AdrictoTDT-Twitch No its worse. Because at least with skullmerchant you can force her to kill you and move on. Even if you lose you can move on. As dredge you have zero control over it.
"killer is ALWAYS guaranteed to win" I'm a killer main and that was the funniest shit I've heard all day "Your logic goes against the developers" Weren't they abusing a bug? The irony is so potent you can almost taste it
Here's the thing, these clowns count anything that's not a full 4 man escape as a survivor loss and killer win. That's right, you can spend all game getting tea bagged, led into head on/Flash bangs, 4 man flash light Background Player groups that bang out gets and because one gets over confident tea bagging in the exit gate and gets killed as everyone else escapes, they'd say you won as the killer.
I was laughing when I got survivors doing this exploit while I was doing TS Myers for fun. After I got one with a Mori, suddenly they were going into the lockers properly...
What's really sad is the Mikaela complains about tunneling, camping, and slugging when there are perks designed to counter that. - Unbreakable counters slugging. - Off The Record, Decisive Strike counters tunneling. - Reassurance, Deliverance, and BASEKIT BT counters camping. Yet they run none of that despite apparently "every Killer doin' it", so who's really the one that can't learn from their own mistakes here?
The problem is you have to have the skill to utilize those abilities which clearly they have none you saw how fast the first guy went down When he came out of that locker.
I think having perks to help alleviate camping, tunneling, etc is fine but there’s a limit. It’s why they’re introducing the anti-camp mechanic. I think there needs to be more in place to reduce or highly discourage these unfun and unfair playstyles. Perks would have to help adjusted accordingly, but, it’s clearly necessary.
@@senatorarmstrong4662 I think the bigger problem is that many of those perks need time invested to earn or are locked behind paywalls unless the shrine of secrets gives them out There are only 2 survivor perks per week which is what's going to turn off newer players Who sees new perk to counter face camping only 4:99$ and says thats good game design
Unbreakable is the only one on that list that reliably does its job. OTR can be stripped off by a camping killer and DS, while still better than nothing, doesn't help that much unless you go down near resources. Camping, on the other hand, has no real satisfying counter. Hopefully the upcoming patch will fix that. But at the moment: -Reassurance is a cold comfort to the survivor who is on the hook and who is going to be left to wait, a lot of survivors find Reassurance annoying since they'd rather just go next and let themselves die if being camped. And if you're the one being camped, it doesn't help unless someone else brought it. -Deliverance doesn't help if you get hooked before you can unhook anyone. -Basekit BT realistically only keeps the survivor being unhooked from being hit by the killer immediately and going down. If the killer wants to follow them, it doesn't do much.
When the exploit was found I pulled out the ol reliable Pyramid Head to clip them through. The amount of rage from the exploiters that it didn't work was beautiful
"No you dont have all the time it ends after a little while" That doesn't change the fact that he can wait the whole time and doesn't have anything too do hes just chillin
.. They do realize that once the match ends in this manner that the game automatically counts it as a win/kill for the killer? That is the reason behind the 3 gen skull merchant holding games hostage for that long, because it was a technical win. This was all pointless from the start, and they gain nothing but wasting time. They should've played normally, after all they would of either been able to escape, or go into the next match already.
personally I've never ran into a toxic killer (that wasn't an obvious cheater but that was like once or twice over YEARS). Now survivors... I've seen survivors tear into each other in end-game for ZERO reason. Both as a survivor and killer.
Agreed. Though I'm noticing that seems to have started becoming less of a thing, so here's hoping the community is actually fixing itself. @@NOTKNOWNLOGIC
Idk about 9/10 because slugging is more skill based and not luck based. A better way of saying it is if you know when and how to slug, you’re not wasting any time
Well..... - Factually it's annoying, especially if it's 2 or 3 slugged, if 4 people are even still in the game. - If they slugged all that are alive, and just leave you there it's technically their win, but way less points. Nothing good for survivors... - It baits altruism still... - It's like Face camping with less steps in my occasions. Sure survivors might have someone be able to do gens dependent on where the slug is, how wide the camp is, the map itself, and gen locations. I don't fault players that use Unbreakable or No Mither because of it. I plan on trying Unbreakable, Flip Flop, Powerstruggle, and Tenacity, when I prestige 3 Tapp.
@@QuantemDeconstructorb tier killer against comp teams who are sweating their balls off, make it a nurse or blight and then you’d get balanced results.
It's Killer sided, as long as there isn't a 3-4 swf that is semi-competent and actually bring items, add-ons, and offerings. IDK if I've seen 2swfs of 2 people in a game, but idk where I'd rank that.
One survivor dying is a loss is the funniest shit ever. One look at the killer win rates shows how reliable those statistics are. The devs think that if you escape, you're the better survivor. Can they not use their own judgement lol. Anyways to all the survivor mains, if you never played killer the past couple years, then stfu.
@@veissra4047 Feel the same or at least the ones who are one sided opinion wise some can play mainly one role but they understand the game enough to know the bs on both ends but I mainly play killer by myself and survivor with friends
@@friendhaus1858 There are Killer cheater/exploiters-, but most of the cheaters I've seen are survivor mains. . . I play both sides and the cheating is by far mostly survivors
Might I point out about the flashlight bug... weskers invisibility bug was found late afternoon on a friday and was killswitched immediately. The flashlight bug with lockers was found on a friday morning and didnt get killswitched until the next monday.
They just do not use their killswitch nearly as much as they should. They have a system to immediately stop people from abusing bugs and yet refuse to use it for some reason
i get what you're saying that it feels biased, but also there's been an exploit for alien since release [well before the flashlight bug] that allows alien to completely block unhooks with her hitbox. getting hooked is a guaranteed death unless you can unhook yourself, turrets don't change the hitbox to allow unhooks and these aliens usually run lightborn. alien hasn't been killswitched a single time, and at most the devs have added that anti camping stuff to ptb, which will take a long fuckin time
@@Mandahaya Man I've done some very deplorable shit on the internet in the past 2 decades and none of that came to ever haunt me, nor do I act like IRL as I did back then. People just like to be morons online and sure, there is people who reflect this behaviour into their RL, but that's a giant minority.
My favorite thing about cheaters is that they always turn out to be this frail nerd who knows what he's doing is shameful. Like a majority of the time, from what I've been seeing,. when the hacker is revealed, they always seem "friendly", facetious, or talking like they're giving some TED talk and nervous about it. Like you'd expect them to be a dick, but they all just come across the same: Mad because bad in which made them sad.
Also buddy is pulling out random stats and revealing how unfair it is to be a survivor. I realized this in many games and never have I cheated, I just said "this game's ass" and kept it moving lmao
I love when he was asking “If you get one kill that’s a win?” and their answer to that was “it’s guaranteed to get one kill” they were dodging the answer because they sounded so stupid😂😂
sad thing is there is only a temporary ban for this from what I have read and been told by support. I have reported around 6 of them with video evidence and got the "We'll take a look at this and take additional action if it is needed, but please note that we will not be able to inform you of the outcome of this report." And on the page where it describes bans for certain actions, exploits are temporary.
@@DeputyFish they linked me the page on the support ticket and it lists it under temporary bans. EXPLOITS: ABUSING BUGS OR ERRORS IN DESIGN TO GAIN A COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE Advertising exploits Exploit bugs, errors in design, or undocumented features to gain access to what otherwise would not be available or to obtain a competitive advantage In-game report REQUIRED / Player Support ticket OPTIONAL
Did you ever get a reply from BHVR? I reported a Meg that was doing the exact same thing and I never got an E-Mail back, even if I opened a ticket right on their website
I saw a Survivor doing this in a match with this Wesker. Wesker picked me up, carried me to a hook, stood there until I wiggled free, and then I helped him kill her. Then he and I went around the map, and he let me stun him over and over until we found the hatch. Funny enough, I was playing Rebecca.
Here's why I stopped playing this game. -> Subtle / blatant cheating, harassement, threats. What have you done to deserve all the above? You played killer for 2 seconds.
I stopped playing the game because of how sweaty it was and how toxic the comunity was, it's just not fun to play a game and needing to play competitive for NOTHING. you get no reward from playing like a sweat, if you don't you are going to suffer until the survivors allow the game to end, and if you do, you sweat for no reason because the prize is keeping playing the game.
yeah but theres two ways to deal with it, be a good person and not hurt other people how youve been hurt bc you know the pain or be a bad person and inflict it onto other people thereby retroactively proving you deserved it
Players don't hurt each other. It's the developers. Take away the killers ability to kill? They resort to whatever tactics will get them something. Survivors can't survive? Exploits and SWFs are used to bully killers. The common theme is the developers. If killers and survivors get over-nerfed, what do you expect?
@@jimjimerson7098 There is a clear difference between inbalance and exploting/cheating on purpose. Just because the devs aren't 100% on the balancing (which is impossible for an asymmetrical game) doesn't mean either side is entitled to violate the game's ToS. The only reason people get away with it is that BHVR doesn't instantly permaban everyone that used exploits and cheats knowlingly. This is a common error with modern gaming and therefor a reason on why so many games are infested with cheats, leading to increases toxicity and distrust to development companies as a whole.
@@Somethingnobodyhasthoughtofnxgga stfu. If someone hurts me i do it right back. Miss me with that “be better then others🤓” bs. The world isnt gonna suddenly Be better because you decided to take a stand. So treat people like shit.
BHVR could have cracked down on clowns many years ago and still don't do it harshly enough. Anyone knowingly exploiting or using 3rd party software should be permabanned alongside HWID and it really doesn't take a team of hundreds for a game such as DBD to achieve this.
"Imagine if they deleted killers. The world would be a better place: doin' gens all day, escaping, hitting skillchecks, t-bagging no one at the exi... wait, that doesn't sound right. Let's just make killers spawn in when we get to an exit gate. problem solved"- these guys
When I play killer and I'm losing horribly, I still stick it out to the end and play my best. I don't punish the other 4 people playing the game because I didn't have fun. What are these people's excuses? "I'm not having fun so I'm gonna punish some random guy playing the game"
I love how one of the first thing he says is, "Did you enjoy the tactic?" As if abusing a broken bug is skillful or tactical in any way, bro can't be fr 💀💀💀
Coconut I would like to say thank you! When I saw the video that you showed where you were on a cheater list were you would “waste 2 hours of your life” I was inspired. I went into that weekend not realizing this was a glitch that was going on, and I too, treated it as a battle of attrition a battle of Will and I knew I was stronger. I just finished heating up my spaghetti and sat there and was watching them do this and they got overconfident and I ended up killing one on the hook. I bled two out on the floor because they wouldn’t come out of the locker and the final one just came out of the locker themselves and gave up on their own. It was a 20 minute game, I was prepared to sit there for the entire hour to let the entity kill them. :D
Please update us on if they got banned or not. I really wanna see if BHVR actually takes reports seriously WITH VIDEO PROOF. Cause if they don't ban for THIS then there's no hope for them as a company and I can't respect them anymore. This is not OK and should be punished and shown as an example. I saw in 2 days literally 50+ matches with people doing this to streamers. Them not taking this seriously and not banning for it just means people will think its ok to exploit cause there are no consequences.
I had a solo queue match against a Xenomorph on Mother's Dwelling where a Bill used the exploit constantly. Me and the other 2 survivors, after the gates had been powered and the Xenomorph opened one, trapped the Bill in the locker in the main building until the collapse ended. It was so fun being a part of something like that
Bro they really called it " a tactic " lol bro these survivor mains are delusional an want anything to win even using exploits an cheats an thats fine to them, but god forbid if killers use any kind of "tactic " to win an watch them rage an complain lol
There's a difference between exploiting and using actual built in game mechanics. The Mikaela player literally compared real game strategies to EXPLOITS; saying that Killer strategies such as: tunneling, camping and slugging are as bad as exploits. The stupidity in some DBD players are insane; this video really highlights that quite well.
As a survivor main and killer player, the game is much more survivor sided. If your team is good you will be getting 3-4 out somewhat consistently. 5% is pure insanity.
Its gotten to the point that you cant play certain lower tiered killers unless you are best of the best at it and unless you have the meta. Playing a lesser played, weaker niche killer with a fun memey build is impossible if you wanna have fun.
That Mikaela sounds EXACTLY like you'd expect them to sound HAHAHAH
They sound like they stink
bri ish innit
Teeth is probably rotting out of his mouth
Bro sounds like his moms 2 seconds away from asking him if he wants his favorite dinosaur shaped nuggies.
Kiwwer ith choo won shided. bro that is so annoying, that Mikaela is Coping so hard... bro has never played a single match as killer.
@@ComradeVenus White americans without any immediate european ancestry are british
"this game's too one sided"
coming from the literal cheater, thats gold
Well not a cheater, just your average exploiter
@@user-pe6ct7ut8texploiting (especially when the exploit is this bad) should be considered the exact same as cheating. Hiding inside a locker even though your hit box is still present to avoid hits is literally the same thing as cheating, and is something a cheater can and will do.
cheat = act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination. (google dictionary 🤓). the advantage is th ability to infinitely heal and be invulerable so yea@@user-pe6ct7ut8t
@@user-pe6ct7ut8tyea a cheater my guy
@@user-pe6ct7ut8t it's still cheating by using exploits.
What do you think Cheating is?
Mikaela's voice sums this all up pretty well
He has an extremely annoying voice tbh . Dude say cump tounnel shlung bruh .
YES!! how did you like the tactic 🤓🐴🦷even the fucking teachers were bullying this guy
Annoyed the fuck out of me
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@@Skeltorxdthe horse 😭😭😭
I like how quiet the Ripley got when he said they'll be losing their 600 hour account and just left their brain damaged friend to try defend themselves for being shit at the game.
"the developers say that you shouldn't tunnel and camp, so I'm gonna use an unintended glitch to hold it hostage for a whole hour" love the hypocrisy
Doesn't really matter what the devs say when they made the meta to be most efficient about tunneling one player out of the match asap.
They can say whatever they want, but if they don't act on it, their words are meaningless.
@@user-pe6ct7ut8t I'll say it again, buff DS's stun timer back up to 5 seconds and if the devs want it to possibly be shorter, allow Enduring to work on it again (lowering it to the current 3 seconds).
The anti-tunneling perks need to be strong at punishing the killer to make them think twice if tunneling is the best play right now. Until they do, it can always generate significant snowball as having one less player to keep track of is always a great option if its available.
Note: The current base kit changes are all good and dandy, but BT is no longer really a good perk to prevent tunneling since now everyone has it. Killers know to either immediately eat the BT effect (rendering the perk useless) or they prefer to not tunnel in general. As they keep looking and hopefully shrinking the large maps, anti-tunneling mechanics will need to be stronger IMO as one of the largest issues for most killers (map traversal) will be less of a barrier to finding chases or other survivors quickly.
@@ynglink You already mentioned the snowball for Killer, and this is exactly what the balancing has to be about. A Killer has almost an impossible task trying to gain time vs 4 Survivors as in pretty much any scenario, you'll always have 1 survivor progressing the game forward. With 3 players however, there has to be a balance of survival and progress which gains the Killer significantly more time which is by coincidence, the only thing a Killer needs in order to perform.
Also I believe one of the biggest problems here in terms of balancing is the obvious difference between soloQ and SwF which to be fair, is just hard to balance as giving soloQ hefty buffs will most likely also impact SwF, which is already stronger than Killer.
@@user-pe6ct7ut8t I didn't mention snowball more than once in that response? But either way. I agree in a lot of ways on the tactic being effective when used right and not fun at the same time.
I play a lot of both sides and DS while super annoying, was at least a deterrent for tunneling. I do want it to be deactivated in End Game still no matter what though.
Having 0-option to get a hook on someone at end game is not healthy either.
The overall issue with balancing is that the game inherently isn't ever going to be balanced because of the ebb and flow of the game. 4-v-1's just really can't be perfectly balanced. So we should look at how unhealthy things are rather than if it's balanced, especially when looking at what the core gameplay issues are.
They don't have anything to do with balancing things and are more akin to player behavior. Camping, Tunneling, Bullying, GenRushing, etc.
I'd rather have a fun healthy game than a trying to balance a mess of a game like DBD. Address outlier perks, heavily shake the meta up at least twice a year, and focus on the core issues instead.
@@ynglink Eh, BT is still a good perk. It makes a huge difference. If you don't think so, try running BT for a few games.
I like how they said they would only do the exploit if the killer was tunneling, camping or slugging yet the dredge clearly didn't do any of that and they still did the exploit anyway lol
Just admit your trash at the game and lost so many times you resort to cheating.
That's how they do it i was playing huntress while this exploit was happening all the time and they always went in there when they were about to close had nothing to do with camping or tunneling, however survivors think they are so good so they try to go between the lockers like they did in this video and i just loaded a hatchet needle threaded between and got them gone so many times hahaha!
Me when I started my first chase as alien
Average survivor mains
It’s a getaway excuse. These are the type of survivors who never touched killers once in their lives and yet they talk about game balance. There opinion matters very little because their whole life they only seen one perspective of the game. Using a exploit to gain an advantage or waste time is worst then face camping, slugging and any of that. Because at the end of the day you get match up with new killers even if you get tunnel to death whereas exploit like this you just waste everybody’s time, when you can literally move on to the next match. The things I never get about the complaint from survivors is that there whole idea is that “we can do it but you can’t”. Survivors can bully new killers to a point where they just become a survivor main but when they face good killers oh now game balancing gets talked about but not for the overall game just for survivors.
There is no way that they really were thinking that 1k is win for a Killer 💀
If you only got 1 and the other 3 escaped bro that's a L. This is how you can tell their survivor mains.
ikr? As a killer main that made me lol
The MMR system apparently rewards 0-1 kill as a "loss" (MMR down), 2 kills as a "draw" (MMR stays the same), and 3-4 kills as a "win" (boosts your MMR). Until we get a more clear win condition, seems like a 3 or 4k is a "win" to me XD
It’s because solo Q survivors see the game as 1v1. They want to get max blood points and escape regularly.
Meanwhile, the killer is managing 4 separate 1v1s and will feel like they lost the game even if they got 8 hooks but no kills.
@@Not_CielFacts
"I stayed in the locker because as a killer, you killed 😡"
"I'm allowed to exploit because I'm bad at the game 🤬"
Delusional 💀
I love how for the Dredge’s friend you use Maurice as the icon.
Also these survivors just outed themselves of being bad survivor players? I’ve been escaping many games.
ive been getting face camped every game. still waiting for the next patch.@@BasementDweller_
and the classic 4k slug 0 hooks 5 gens
😂 I was thinking the same Maurice is friend with dredge
@hanetiro no he ate maurice with his fog body when he was realsed but nobody liked that so bhvr added him back
This Mikaela needs to follow the words of Matthew Cote "Go play something else", at least the Dredge was chill lmao, recording it all was beautiful
mikaela's voice explains everything LMAOOOO
bro sounds like alex from clockwork orange lmfao
@@McLovin18-88 holy shit you did not
Lil' bro got stuffed into lockers so much that he's drawn to them now lol.
@@McLovin18-88that's disrespectful to Alex. He speaks with way more elegance than this.
"It goes against what the developers say" proceeds to then do exactly what they don't want which is exploiting the game lol.
Survivor entitlement, only the killer is at fault
“The developers don't like players like you” Proceeds to use cheats and exploits something the developers don't like.
@@paco_da_taco It's both. Killers have had exploits that benefitted them, and this is a survivor sided one. TBH he could just waited the 40-45mins in front of the 2 lockers, and he should auto win with the game server ending the game itself.
@@RedrumZombies In this case, the killer doesn't have any exploits so why is he the only one that gets blamed for actions while the survivors get to exploit?
@@paco_da_taco Did I blame the Dredge guy? No...
All what you are saying just tells me you are like the killer side of these types.....
And the game ends at 1hr total time with giving the killer the win. He could've waited instead of sweating and hoping they'd fool around.
Less headache and it's currently patched and was undoable for the past week and a half.
Props to dredge keeping it cool, they didn't deserve it.
i mean the killer has less than 200 hours at the game and was indeed camping and tunneling so yeah... still, is the fault of the survs for not bringing antitunnel perks in this meta tho.
If he got angry they would have had the satisfaction of making him rage.
@@juanfecitohiuchdickSo fucking what If he was tunneling and camping ? Is that a exploit ? Get ur entitled ass out here
wah wah wah bitch im lil baby @@juanfecitohiuchdick
I dont see how any1 camps and tunnels with a built in borrow time. Camping is usually only viable when every survivor is in the hook area and end game. Tunneling waste time with 2 hits + chase & letting 3 others fly through gens. I don't see hardly any benefit unless the survivors don't finish gens... kinda like these no life exploiting losers. I hope the basement Manchild quits DBD after being ban👋
what a bunch of weirdos...and who would be ballsy enough to join a discord call when they're doing this, im dying! my social anxiety could never
It's the Internet. They wouldn't keep this same attitude in person.
He baited them into gloating about it but pulled an Uno reverse card.
If xbox party chat taught me anything, it's that you can get an IP when you join a chat. Real risky.
It’s just a game if you’re emotionally attached to it maybe you’re the problem
@@RwvZNoMercy to some degree, that's true. I also think that having some emotional attachment is just normal though, ultimately you need to be able to take a step back but if people are just treating you like total dirt, being bothered is natural. It's what you do with that emotion that matters.
The survivors said that the dredge was camping but literally anyone to call zero hook camping literally needs to go touch some grass and rethink their life
No grass isn't enough they need to walk around a forest.
@@senatorarmstrong4662 agreed
I'm not surprised, me hooking someone is camping cause the animation keeps me there for a couple seconds.
@@XenoVT next to going to say just because there's a killer on the match that they are campers Etc I met several streamers so far they were the sweetest bunch there are ones I couldn't get sweet responses from either they never went live are either just playing while they weren't online
@@novadrake9232 what do streamers have to do with what I said? Is there a point to your word salad? Lol
“Overconfidence is a flimsy shield”
-Zenyatta, 2016
Now that I know who this is now it makes this even better.
Ironically cuz every zen main is a toxic pos
@@Pam234 That is so sad.
“how’d you like the tactic? the locker play?” this isn’t a tactic lmfao please.
He was obviously asking sarcasticly to taunt the dredge player....
@@emilchristophersen3354 I dont know man, the way that dude talked he seemed to actually think shit like that was okay. I don't think he was being sarcastic at all lmao.
he was being sarcastic but u 🤡 for not getting it 🤣🤣
tbh i would do the same thing if someone camp and tunnel my friend, good pay back 🤣🤣@@Not_Ciel
@@KingDarkHacksah yes exploiting because you refused to use the perks and items to help counter the gameplay style. I hope you get banned for exploiting lol
Bro sounds like the 🤓 emoji, actually crazy
If you get 1 kill you don’t win…
Mikaela: “well actually” 🤓
u can clearly see those 2 survivors never play killer and also forgot that surviviors can win the game even if they get killed while the killer needs his kills to progress. this just shows the "i escape i win" mentality but i feel like bug abusers should be treatet like cheaters this is not fair and i hope it will get fixed soon
Idk if you know or don't know, it's fixed in PTB "should be" since flashlights are reactivated in PTB
This has been fixed in the PTB and on live servers for 2 days now iirc
The moment they said the game's killer sided I immediately thought oh god it's one of these idiots. these people can't understand that there are a lot of factors that play into each team having an advantage. Such as maps builds the killer the survivors. I've seen teams absolutely bully killers cause luck was on their side and they got the map they wanted and it worked extremely well with their build. I've seen killers absolutely destroy SWFs with their zero healing wesker build cause luck was on their side and they got a small map.
So him saying survivors only have a 1 percent chance of escape doesn't factor in the skill of the survivors or are they a swf or solo? What builds are they running what is the killer and what is the map? Is the killer any good? What build is the killer running?
I'm not agreeing with these two at all, but the sad thing is that survivors don't win the game if they get killed. Because despite being a team-based role, the game's scoring system only cares about your individual performance. If one survivor gets tunneled out but the other 3 escape, then the game has two losers: the killer and the survivor who died. It doesn't matter if that one survivor bought enough time for the 3-man out, the game still thinks they lose in terms of their pips and their blood points. Also their MMR, but who cares about their MMR
@@Zakon673I mean, it's a team game, even with the game thinking you lose no matter if 3 people get out, that's still a win. Survivors lose when you get 3 or 4 kills
These dudes sound like actual genuine nerds trying to justify a full on exploit that makes it impossible for them to be attacked. Like they’re trying to talk about killer and survivor statistics and slugging and tunnelling as if it has anything to do with the actual topic. It’s a game breaking, impossible to counter exploit that goes against the fundamental principles of the game itself and yet they’re trying to whine about “oh but I get tunnelled and camped sometimes oh woe is me 🥺🥺🥺”
it's peak dbd player mentality. happens on both survivors and killers though with exploits like this it's worse on survivor side
some people get a bad game and decide "you know what? i'll just ruin the next game for whoever else i go against even if they have nothing to do with my bad experience."
it serves zero purpose except to ruin random players' fun for no actual reason, just because someone else wasn't nice to them.
@@holypeanutt I mean tbh even though I haven’t been in the DbD community for that long, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a killer-sided exploit on the same level as this locker bug like it’s insane that people were able to use it so frequently and easily like this.
Like most killer bugs you see it’s like some random glitch that you can’t really control or use that well unless you’re either insanely lucky or you’re already skilled enough as a killer to where it doesn’t really matter anyways. But then with survivor exploits it’s like “yes I have this technique where I can infinitely blind you and none of us will ever be picked up ever” or “ I’m going to turn myself invisible and invincible and do 10 360 backflips where my team does all of the gens”
Runs a build around hiding in a locker and self healing , runs into the locker at the first chase . Ummm no actually I didn’t plan on doing it I only started it because you tunneled someone else . Uh huh righhht
@@Shuffles_Artmost bugs are even survivor sided 😭😭😭😭
my favorite part was when their bullshit statistics didn't even add up.
"Survivors only escape 5 percent of the time while killers win 90!"
So is the other five a "draw" then? Sources other than his own ass please? 🙄
Honestly, this exploit was worse than a Skull Merchant 3 genning for 60 minutes. This Dredge didn't deserve to go through this, especially with how the survivors argumented against him, trying to defend abusing bugs in the game to hold the killer hostage for an hour and yet he still prevailed. What an absolute trooper.
The skull merchant 3gen you could at least END it by suiciding / giving up / forcing the killer to kill you or maybe even win if team is good enough. Is it boring? sure, but at least you PLAY the game. Skull merchant cant keep you hostage. Sure you will lose but you CAN get out without DCing.
This exploit they can literally just go a 2 man team and AFK in 2 lockers and that's it. Killer has to sit there for an hour.
Of course it's worse. As much as SM defending a 3 gen forever sucked, it wasn't an exploit. The survivors were knowingly taking advantage of a bug to hold the game hostage. That's very different from a stubborn boring killer playing the poorly designed SM.
Survivors are literally the most toxic players on the game, smh. 😂
No, it was not. It's the same BS
@@AdrictoTDT-Twitch No its worse. Because at least with skullmerchant you can force her to kill you and move on. Even if you lose you can move on. As dredge you have zero control over it.
"killer is ALWAYS guaranteed to win" I'm a killer main and that was the funniest shit I've heard all day
"Your logic goes against the developers" Weren't they abusing a bug? The irony is so potent you can almost taste it
Here's the thing, these clowns count anything that's not a full 4 man escape as a survivor loss and killer win.
That's right, you can spend all game getting tea bagged, led into head on/Flash bangs, 4 man flash light Background Player groups that bang out gets and because one gets over confident tea bagging in the exit gate and gets killed as everyone else escapes, they'd say you won as the killer.
@@Orapac4142 okay?
Dredge is greek. His accent is so distinguishable.
oh is that what that accent is ? its quite pretty
I was laughing when I got survivors doing this exploit while I was doing TS Myers for fun.
After I got one with a Mori, suddenly they were going into the lockers properly...
It's all fun and games till someone gets stabbed with a knife
What's really sad is the Mikaela complains about tunneling, camping, and slugging when there are perks designed to counter that.
- Unbreakable counters slugging.
- Off The Record, Decisive Strike counters tunneling.
- Reassurance, Deliverance, and BASEKIT BT counters camping.
Yet they run none of that despite apparently "every Killer doin' it", so who's really the one that can't learn from their own mistakes here?
The problem is you have to have the skill to utilize those abilities which clearly they have none you saw how fast the first guy went down When he came out of that locker.
I think having perks to help alleviate camping, tunneling, etc is fine but there’s a limit. It’s why they’re introducing the anti-camp mechanic. I think there needs to be more in place to reduce or highly discourage these unfun and unfair playstyles. Perks would have to help adjusted accordingly, but, it’s clearly necessary.
@@senatorarmstrong4662 I think the bigger problem is that many of those perks need time invested to earn or are locked behind paywalls unless the shrine of secrets gives them out
There are only 2 survivor perks per week which is what's going to turn off newer players
Who sees new perk to counter face camping only 4:99$ and says thats good game design
Instead you get dumbass survivors who intentionally body block with OTR and then complain that you tunneled.
Unbreakable is the only one on that list that reliably does its job. OTR can be stripped off by a camping killer and DS, while still better than nothing, doesn't help that much unless you go down near resources.
Camping, on the other hand, has no real satisfying counter. Hopefully the upcoming patch will fix that. But at the moment:
-Reassurance is a cold comfort to the survivor who is on the hook and who is going to be left to wait, a lot of survivors find Reassurance annoying since they'd rather just go next and let themselves die if being camped. And if you're the one being camped, it doesn't help unless someone else brought it.
-Deliverance doesn't help if you get hooked before you can unhook anyone.
-Basekit BT realistically only keeps the survivor being unhooked from being hit by the killer immediately and going down. If the killer wants to follow them, it doesn't do much.
MY BROTHER DREDGE HAS THE GREEK GOD BLOOD, HE KNOWS HOW TO DEAL WITH SUCH PEOPLE.
When the exploit was found I pulled out the ol reliable Pyramid Head to clip them through. The amount of rage from the exploiters that it didn't work was beautiful
"No you dont have all the time it ends after a little while"
That doesn't change the fact that he can wait the whole time and doesn't have anything too do hes just chillin
For real, the fact he was still that cool threw them off. You could tell in their voice it was close to triggering them lmao.
It's ironic that Mikaela sounds exactly like someone who would do this.
That creature sounds really zesty like ewww
I wonder how many days it's been since they've seen sunlight and this is probably the one time they've talked to someone after like a year.
@@entercorz6661ure sadder than them by trying to attack him for his sexuality just because ure mad at him lmao 💀
@@LUN4RA ure
@@entercorz6661 get some grammar classes, its said correctly
The Mikaela legit sounds like the 🤓emoji embodied into a Reddit mod.
.. They do realize that once the match ends in this manner that the game automatically counts it as a win/kill for the killer? That is the reason behind the 3 gen skull merchant holding games hostage for that long, because it was a technical win. This was all pointless from the start, and they gain nothing but wasting time. They should've played normally, after all they would of either been able to escape, or go into the next match already.
"You face camped and tunnels so I'm going to use an exploit to cheat"
This is why people point out toxic survivors all the time. Shit like this.
I would say around 90% of all survivors ive played against are toxic.
@@NOTKNOWNLOGICtrue almost all survivors i've played against are toxic af . It's sad
personally I've never ran into a toxic killer (that wasn't an obvious cheater but that was like once or twice over YEARS).
Now survivors... I've seen survivors tear into each other in end-game for ZERO reason.
Both as a survivor and killer.
It's unfortunately true. Lately on my end I'm seeing that less and less though, so fingers crossed. @@deadwalkin12345
Agreed. Though I'm noticing that seems to have started becoming less of a thing, so here's hoping the community is actually fixing itself. @@NOTKNOWNLOGIC
This mikaela has upper management written all over him.
Your logic goes against the developers of the game 🤓
I love when survivors act like slugging is an advantage for the killer. 9 times out of 10 if you slug and don't hook you just wasted your time
Idk about 9/10 because slugging is more skill based and not luck based. A better way of saying it is if you know when and how to slug, you’re not wasting any time
@@turboligma9927yup
I don’t know why survivors complain about slugging when there are like 4 perks that counter it and having a decent team will always counter it.
Well.....
- Factually it's annoying, especially if it's 2 or 3 slugged, if 4 people are even still in the game.
- If they slugged all that are alive, and just leave you there it's technically their win, but way less points. Nothing good for survivors...
- It baits altruism still...
- It's like Face camping with less steps in my occasions.
Sure survivors might have someone be able to do gens dependent on where the slug is, how wide the camp is, the map itself, and gen locations.
I don't fault players that use Unbreakable or No Mither because of it.
I plan on trying Unbreakable, Flip Flop, Powerstruggle, and Tenacity, when I prestige 3 Tapp.
The only thing you named that's a valid criticism is that it's annoying.@@RedrumZombies
Why do survivors do this? I main survivor but holding hostage is actually so sad
Edit: no way mikaela said the game is killer sided aswell lmaoo
Slinger main is considered playing insanely good for killing 2 survs off the best team in the game
it's absolutely killer-sided
Because dbd is toxic dogshit
@@QuantemDeconstructorb tier killer against comp teams who are sweating their balls off, make it a nurse or blight and then you’d get balanced results.
@@RwvZNoMercy Average killers just don't see the crazy results of your Nurses & Blights
It's Killer sided, as long as there isn't a 3-4 swf that is semi-competent and actually bring items, add-ons, and offerings.
IDK if I've seen 2swfs of 2 people in a game, but idk where I'd rank that.
The second these two opened their mouths it all made sense
Their whole argument was "The killer played the game, so I exploited."
They kept sticking with the excuse that he tunneled and ca,psd even though when they used the exploit he had zero hooks.
"The developers don't like you" - Exploiter
Well, isn't that the pot calling the kettle black.
One survivor dying is a loss is the funniest shit ever. One look at the killer win rates shows how reliable those statistics are. The devs think that if you escape, you're the better survivor. Can they not use their own judgement lol. Anyways to all the survivor mains, if you never played killer the past couple years, then stfu.
Agreed, but amend this to also cover Killer mains who don't play surv. If you don't play both roles, your opinions are just invalidated.
@@veissra4047 Feel the same or at least the ones who are one sided opinion wise some can play mainly one role but they understand the game enough to know the bs on both ends but I mainly play killer by myself and survivor with friends
@@veissra4047 Just some people for some reason only see's the bad that happens to them and don't even see the bad things happening to the other side
The Mikaela sounding like that is actually like some divine comedy LMAO Thats the most sterotipical game cheater voice they could possibly have 🤣🤣🤣
"Ego battle" sounds like a nice name for a new game mode in DbD.
I like that you and spooknjukes confront the actions of these cheaters in dbd
Dredge mains are based
Tombstone myers is actually the funniest counter to this. Because you can mori the survivors in the lockers
I’m a Mikaela main and when I heard his voice I was like, oh hell naw we don’t claim him.
I wonder how many of these exploiters are entitled Survivor mains.
literally all of them
@@friendhaus1858 There are Killer cheater/exploiters-, but most of the cheaters I've seen are survivor mains. . . I play both sides and the cheating is by far mostly survivors
Just about all of them I'm sure. I have someone that is an saw nothing wrong with them doing it
Yes.
@@friendhaus1858 word for word exactly what i was going to comment lol
It’s so funny he actually thinks all survivors deserve to escape every game…
Apparently killers aren’t allowed to do their jobs.
can't imagine the amount of just regular people who had to go through matches like that, glad I took such a well timed break. Hope BHVR fixes it soon.
They already did. Saw someone last night trying to do it an I stared at them
@@staticstormbird5439 oh thank god
Might I point out about the flashlight bug... weskers invisibility bug was found late afternoon on a friday and was killswitched immediately. The flashlight bug with lockers was found on a friday morning and didnt get killswitched until the next monday.
They just do not use their killswitch nearly as much as they should. They have a system to immediately stop people from abusing bugs and yet refuse to use it for some reason
i get what you're saying that it feels biased, but also there's been an exploit for alien since release [well before the flashlight bug] that allows alien to completely block unhooks with her hitbox. getting hooked is a guaranteed death unless you can unhook yourself, turrets don't change the hitbox to allow unhooks and these aliens usually run lightborn. alien hasn't been killswitched a single time, and at most the devs have added that anti camping stuff to ptb, which will take a long fuckin time
karma will haunt these losers, and that's something they won't be able to noclip dodge.
Not that deep 😂
@@Wym- this behavior is an extension of who those people are in real life. so they'll get what they deserve.
@@Wym- It is that deep. It really is. Or are you saying YOU'RE a cheater too?
@@Mandahaya Man I've done some very deplorable shit on the internet in the past 2 decades and none of that came to ever haunt me, nor do I act like IRL as I did back then.
People just like to be morons online and sure, there is people who reflect this behaviour into their RL, but that's a giant minority.
@@user-pe6ct7ut8t then your change of heart prevented you from that treatment. others are too full of themselves to go to that length.
the mikaela sounds like hes trying to eat his own tongue
Recessed chin exploiters vs strong structure jawline Dredge
My favorite thing about cheaters is that they always turn out to be this frail nerd who knows what he's doing is shameful. Like a majority of the time, from what I've been seeing,. when the hacker is revealed, they always seem "friendly", facetious, or talking like they're giving some TED talk and nervous about it. Like you'd expect them to be a dick, but they all just come across the same: Mad because bad in which made them sad.
Also buddy is pulling out random stats and revealing how unfair it is to be a survivor. I realized this in many games and never have I cheated, I just said "this game's ass" and kept it moving lmao
Mikaela speaking explains it all LMAO
That voice is exactly what I’d expect from someone using exploits to win a game.
That man is much kinder than me. More than 5 seconds in that call, I would’ve said very…spicy things.
I love when he was asking “If you get one kill that’s a win?” and their answer to that was “it’s guaranteed to get one kill” they were dodging the answer because they sounded so stupid😂😂
sad thing is there is only a temporary ban for this from what I have read and been told by support. I have reported around 6 of them with video evidence and got the "We'll take a look at this and take additional action if it is needed, but please note that we will not be able to inform you of the outcome of this report." And on the page where it describes bans for certain actions, exploits are temporary.
they changed that awhile ago? they do tell you when people are banned currently. i think you even get some bloodpoints. so KAP
@@DeputyFish they linked me the page on the support ticket and it lists it under temporary bans.
EXPLOITS: ABUSING BUGS OR ERRORS IN DESIGN TO GAIN A COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE
Advertising exploits
Exploit bugs, errors in design, or undocumented features to gain access to what otherwise would not be available or to obtain a competitive advantage
In-game report REQUIRED / Player Support ticket OPTIONAL
@@ascendagen no shit its a temp ban?
i mean that they dont say when they get banned
they always say to the person who got them banned
@@DeputyFish forgive me I focused on the wrong thing. Yeah in game reports but they still told me they can't tell me. I never got the in game message.
Hm weird.@@ascendagen
Did you ever get a reply from BHVR? I reported a Meg that was doing the exact same thing and I never got an E-Mail back, even if I opened a ticket right on their website
yeah they gay they never ban ppl for this sadly 💀💀
Was the Meg a ttv
@@nbadude1408 Naw, it was a random player
I really enjoyed this video Coconut. The editing was perfect, great storytelling, and props to the Dredge player for his patience.
"your logic goes against the developers of the game"
*proceeds to abuse an exploit against the developers of the game*
mikaela coming in STRONG with the brain damage
He must have brain issue
No clipping into a locker in front of a dredge is like hitting a cat lovers cat, but the dredge is a chad
I saw a Survivor doing this in a match with this Wesker. Wesker picked me up, carried me to a hook, stood there until I wiggled free, and then I helped him kill her. Then he and I went around the map, and he let me stun him over and over until we found the hatch. Funny enough, I was playing Rebecca.
God they must be awful if they thinks it’s impossible to win without exploits.
i started playing my miniature violin for him when he complained about getting tunneled
The Mikaela sounds like they're about to ask me which guy is my favorite and then scroll through a gallery of roblox huggy wuggys
Here's why I stopped playing this game.
-> Subtle / blatant cheating, harassement, threats.
What have you done to deserve all the above? You played killer for 2 seconds.
Sounds about right. I imagine a whole lot more are going to be quitting with how rough the game is atm.
man eu dbd is so much more sweatier. my matches in na are pretty chill and no one says anything in endgame chat even if i tunnel or camp.
@@Kerps123its in every game here in eu because people here are omega toxic
I stopped playing the game because of how sweaty it was and how toxic the comunity was, it's just not fun to play a game and needing to play competitive for NOTHING. you get no reward from playing like a sweat, if you don't you are going to suffer until the survivors allow the game to end, and if you do, you sweat for no reason because the prize is keeping playing the game.
fucking bingo
Why the censoring of the nicknames?
The fact these guys felt so self-righteous about literal CHEATING is so funny
So this man’s logic was “To avoid getting tunneled and face-camped, I need to abuse a glitch in the game” fucking crazy how that works…
Why do I feel like behind every cheater, there is a player who is hurten by another.
but evey cheater hurts at least one other player
vicious cycle because at least one person had to cheat
yeah but theres two ways to deal with it, be a good person and not hurt other people how youve been hurt bc you know the pain or be a bad person and inflict it onto other people thereby retroactively proving you deserved it
Players don't hurt each other. It's the developers. Take away the killers ability to kill? They resort to whatever tactics will get them something. Survivors can't survive? Exploits and SWFs are used to bully killers. The common theme is the developers. If killers and survivors get over-nerfed, what do you expect?
@@jimjimerson7098 There is a clear difference between inbalance and exploting/cheating on purpose. Just because the devs aren't 100% on the balancing (which is impossible for an asymmetrical game) doesn't mean either side is entitled to violate the game's ToS.
The only reason people get away with it is that BHVR doesn't instantly permaban everyone that used exploits and cheats knowlingly. This is a common error with modern gaming and therefor a reason on why so many games are infested with cheats, leading to increases toxicity and distrust to development companies as a whole.
@@Somethingnobodyhasthoughtofnxgga stfu. If someone hurts me i do it right back. Miss me with that “be better then others🤓” bs. The world isnt gonna suddenly
Be better because you decided to take a stand. So treat people like shit.
Hopefully BHVR start issuing perma bans for survivors who exploited this and not just temp ones.
BHVR could have cracked down on clowns many years ago and still don't do it harshly enough. Anyone knowingly exploiting or using 3rd party software should be permabanned alongside HWID and it really doesn't take a team of hundreds for a game such as DBD to achieve this.
"Imagine if they deleted killers. The world would be a better place: doin' gens all day, escaping, hitting skillchecks, t-bagging no one at the exi... wait, that doesn't sound right. Let's just make killers spawn in when we get to an exit gate. problem solved"- these guys
"You recorded the whole thing?" "Of course i did."
**GIGACHAD MUSIC PLAYS**
The dredge did very well and i think he is greek
When I play killer and I'm losing horribly, I still stick it out to the end and play my best. I don't punish the other 4 people playing the game because I didn't have fun.
What are these people's excuses? "I'm not having fun so I'm gonna punish some random guy playing the game"
I love how one of the first thing he says is, "Did you enjoy the tactic?" As if abusing a broken bug is skillful or tactical in any way, bro can't be fr 💀💀💀
I can just see the Mikaela's face as he speaks. Teeth bursting out like a crocodile's jaw and spit flying everywhere with every word he mutters out.
I’ve never heard someone with a British accent and a speech impediment. It’s actually hilarious😂😂
Mikaela is literally just 🤓
Mikaela: Youw Wogic goes against the devewopews. Youwe going against the statistics
Coconut I would like to say thank you! When I saw the video that you showed where you were on a cheater list were you would “waste 2 hours of your life” I was inspired. I went into that weekend not realizing this was a glitch that was going on, and I too, treated it as a battle of attrition a battle of Will and I knew I was stronger. I just finished heating up my spaghetti and sat there and was watching them do this and they got overconfident and I ended up killing one on the hook. I bled two out on the floor because they wouldn’t come out of the locker and the final one just came out of the locker themselves and gave up on their own. It was a 20 minute game, I was prepared to sit there for the entire hour to let the entity kill them. :D
I play against them but luckily i was executioner 😂 and they Fucked up 😂😂😂
Please update us on if they got banned or not.
I really wanna see if BHVR actually takes reports seriously WITH VIDEO PROOF.
Cause if they don't ban for THIS then there's no hope for them as a company and I can't respect them anymore.
This is not OK and should be punished and shown as an example.
I saw in 2 days literally 50+ matches with people doing this to streamers.
Them not taking this seriously and not banning for it just means people will think its ok to exploit cause there are no consequences.
I had a solo queue match against a Xenomorph on Mother's Dwelling where a Bill used the exploit constantly. Me and the other 2 survivors, after the gates had been powered and the Xenomorph opened one, trapped the Bill in the locker in the main building until the collapse ended. It was so fun being a part of something like that
Those survivors sound like they had a stroke or they're about to cry lol
that's the cringiest voices ive ever heard on those two lmaoooo
He sounds like how I expect every survivor main to sound
I really liked when Mikaela joined the call and said 🤓 before starting to 🤓 all over the place
"The devewoper" bruh sounds like the exact kind of person that uses exploits
why apologize for dd1 reference? anyways that made me happy😊
Bro they really called it " a tactic " lol bro these survivor mains are delusional an want anything to win even using exploits an cheats an thats fine to them, but god forbid if killers use any kind of "tactic " to win an watch them rage an complain lol
There's a difference between exploiting and using actual built in game mechanics. The Mikaela player literally compared real game strategies to EXPLOITS; saying that Killer strategies such as: tunneling, camping and slugging are as bad as exploits. The stupidity in some DBD players are insane; this video really highlights that quite well.
"Even the developers don't like you"
- an exploiter
As a survivor main and killer player, the game is much more survivor sided. If your team is good you will be getting 3-4 out somewhat consistently. 5% is pure insanity.
If the team can actually loop half decent and do gens it’s survivor sided and if there on comms it’s easy 9/10 games.
How he got those 5% chance to win?
Its gotten to the point that you cant play certain lower tiered killers unless you are best of the best at it and unless you have the meta.
Playing a lesser played, weaker niche killer with a fun memey build is impossible if you wanna have fun.
Please tell me they actually were banned :)
'I exploited the game, because it didn't go the way I wanted it too'
"your playstyle goes against what the developers want"
proceeds to exploit the hell out of the game for hours on end