I have this watch and an Omega Speedmaster. Had the Pagani Design Speedmaster in the past (gave it to my brother). Let me tell you the Watchdives Speedmaster blows the Pagani out of the water: 1. The bracelet feels 90% similar to a real Speedmaster bracelet. It is incredible how they could deliver that at this price point. 2. The dial more closely resembles the Speedmaster dial. 3. The lume is a HUGE improvement over the Pagani. 4. The domed crystal mimicks the Speedmaster crystal much more closely than the Pagani. 5. No date window (like the original) that RUINS the dial symmetry on the Pagani. The only thing that Pagani has over Watchdives is the engraved case back. Easily recommend the Watchdives Speedmaster over the Pagani Design Speedmaster. As an Omega Speedmaster owner I know what I am comparing the watches with. 😉
@@marty298 hardly noticeable! You can see it if you hold them next to each other, you barely notice/see the difference when you wear the watch on your wrist.
For the point 5, I disagree with you. Dial symmetry is already ruined because you have a 12h/24h subdial... even when the chronograph function is not working. Date is very useful and it's not ugly if you have a color match date wheel. But all tastes are in nature...
Dial is top notch... no date complication too ..Bracelet is way better...But the case is way too thick in my opinion...PDs casing is more true to the OG. Great review.
Same case shape as everyone else except Pagani, really. I give them some points for finishing it much nicer than the Pagani....but man, a new Midcase would really set them apart from the rest.
That stepped dial is the best I've seen so far. It is the single biggest factor for me in creating much needed depth for the design. Eagerly awaiting my white dial which I'll be comparing to the gen on the Chinese Watches subreddit. Cheers
I really like the crystal of the Watchdives, good heighth, and fantastic distortions around the chapter ring. Other than that, I'll keep my V3 Pagani PD-1701. It looks great on my wrist and very comfortable, just love it. The big slab sides of the Watchdives is an instant turn off for me. I went deaf at that point. Nothing has been greatly improved to peak my interest. It was a great review though, thanks for sharing.
Glad you mentioned the torsion problem on the chrono hand. Even though you stated a workaround, something like that would keep me from buying this. A million thank you’s
Just ordered one in black . For me , I really like the thickness of the case . So much less busy than the 1701 which I also own . Also , love the crystal and dial . Anyway , to each their own .
The coin edge case back is a welcome addition. I just bought the tool for 12 bucks and it's so much easier to open the case back when batteries need to be replaced.
That is super cool of you to knock this out before going on vacation. Even though PD Quartz watches are smoking values, there are a few issues that prevented me from picking one up, but this one addresses those issues. And the introductory price for this watch is ridonculous. Thanks!
Agreed with general opinion The PD remains by a significant margin the king of the Speedy homages I think we agree en masse to disagree with the poster - I think one’s opinion may be altered by a financial incentive
I think it's all a matter of opinion. The PD is great for the price. A nicely shaped case and a lower price point is all that it has going for it, though (IMO). No, the WD isn't perfect (what watch is?) but (again, IMO) The ONLY place this falls short is the case side profile. The better crystal, case finishing, and bracelet are something you can't really argue with....I guess lume matters to some but not others (this blows the PD away), and the more accurate bezel but being a "worse" material could go either way, same with the more accurate dial on the WD. But having them both in hand, I can't see how anyone would pick the PD over the WD...it's just a better made watch...and yeah, sure, some will pay more for that while others won't. 🤷
The white dial should put the chronograph lettering in a bright wet red font and it will sell like hot cakes…. And a silver applied logo on both… it will be the best watch on ali
Agree with the red text, it would look really good....not sure I agree with the applied logo, though. V2 case was just announced today and it looks so good. will be getting the V2 watch in soon, already talked to them and have it on order :)
This review came in so fast! Do you ever sleep? 😂 That’s good because I couldn’t wait. The crystal, the matte aluminum bezel and the matte dial are the stars of the show. I mean, that crystal is amazing! I do like PD’s case better but that’s it. I’m looking forward to watching the review of the WatchDives you’re wearing on this video.
Thanks for the comparative review, that's what we all wanted. Can you get them to slim the case sides down, it's just too much of a slab from the side, the Pagani wins that element.
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Nice watch Steve . I have the PD mission to Uranus, having had the original Swatch one, it was an improvement. I've had it over a year and apart from the bad lume, which isn't an issue on a Chrono anyway. However!!....although the PD is slimmer I actually like the chunky look of the Watchdive, and I'll consider getting one. I happen to have the caseback tool to fit this too and prefer the plain caseback to the cartoonish one that was once on my PD. I admit I do also like the bigger, chunkier pushers too. I have an 8.1" and maybe this is better for me. And finally, yes , it's great lume for a Chronograph. I have a far more expensive Orient panda dial chronograph and the Watchdives looks like it beats it too. Only thing is, the price could be a little bit lower. I wouldn't expect a Pagani price given how better this is, but it's still a bit high. Finally, I took the bracelet off my PD I wasn't overly impressed, so replaced it with a good quality white hand made leather strap to give it a Moonswatch look AND, brushed the silly spaceship and moon off the caseback ! Thanks for the great review .
@@josephkatusich2551 should be by the end of the year, maybe sooner. Slimmer side profile, new factory (same that nailed the WD1967 V2 case) I believe everything else will stay the same. They MAY slim down the bezel.
I wish they would have made it thinner like pagani, I wonder if the bracelet fits the pagani design, if it does and they sell it seperately i might buy it.
@@EscapeWheel В общем, я приобрёл эти часы. У меня не было Omega, а также других брендов этого уровня, но эти часы смотрятся очень достойно за такую цену. К тому же, у WD есть доверие, ведь они похожи на марку San Martin! Однако сейчас я не нашел обзоров на эти кварцевые хронографы.
How is the bracelet? When i got my pagani 1701, the bracelet was pulling my hair and was rough, it was unwearable. I had to get a third-party metal bracelet. How well madevsnd finished is the pracelet of the WD?
Is there any ETA on the V2 of this? I was ready to pull the trigger until I saw that mid case. I'd rather just wait and see which changes they do on the second attempt
The things they need to address: 1 the bulky case shape, the sides in particular. 2. Thick bezel. 3. Too big pushers and a crown. 4. The case back opening, 5. Have a date and no date version.
@@EscapeWheel Yeah, mines is 7 3/4, so if it fits you it will probably fit me. I have a problem with straps as I cant get past the first hole and the watch just bobbles about on my wrist. Bracelets usually dont need links removed. Some I need to ask for a spare link, so all the info I can get helps. Thank you for your reply btw. ...
I know the 24 hour subdial isnt really useful but considering it is a moon watch, it is just a little more fitting given the watch it's homaging. Yes I know a 12 hour totalizer would he more useful. I dont really time events in hours but you may. Yes I know the Speedmaster was originally a racing watch.
Interesting homage model. I have currently the Pagani one. The big deal breaker of the PD was the bracelet, I couldn't fix it to my 6.5 inch wrist. The watchdive model seems to fix this issue. Case thickness is not my cup of tea, nor the pushers size, there gone too off, just too much. I love instead the aluminium bezel and the big plus is the dial design. Subdials are not so clutter and respect the omega original model. Really cool. All in all, they got plenty of room for a second version for this watch. We'll see. Excellent video by the way and pretty informative.
My only nitpicks are the bezel being slightly thick and pushers sticking out a bit; I feel like the crown guards could be more pronounced. Other than that, they nailed it! Love the dial & tapered bracelet! Pagani really messed up the bezel numbering scheme with their V3.
It has that big clunky case. The bezel is not ceramic. The lume is nice, and the 20mm to 16mm is great. I don't think Pagani Design chose to change the bezel and remove the dots from the dial. It seems like they were forced to do that. If this company has success, they might also have to change that. The name is just funny to me, Watch dives? Looks like the Harley Davidson logo as well. People like to rip on Pagani design, but Watch dives haha. If someone likes it though, that's what it's all about! Enjoy that Watch Dives!
Very thick watch! Plus for me that 24 hour dial is useless, give me a chrono that can time 12 hours. Looks good on the rubber band but I prefer butterfly clasps. Good review friend!
Thanks, though the only time the non-Rolex methods worked for me was when the battery had been changed previously as the manufacturers overtighten the backs.
It's unnecessarily though isn't it. What were WD thinking. I have an Ali Ex BB58 which have a Rolex case back. Its time keeping is terrible and it wouldn't surprise me if it has a cheap Chinese movement instead of the NH35. But I can't remove the case back to check.
Don't buy a Speedy homage even if you really want one, buy a Seiko mechaquartz or a Seagull and save the real deal for your grail. I've yet to see a good homage of the thing, and that includes the Moonswatch.
I bought this watch in the sale and awaiting delivery.. looks like I will be sending it back after this review. Or could the dial be swapped out to the PD case which is must better. Your unfairly knocking the PD when Watchdives has the most important aspect wrong .. the case. 😂😂 Not sure why this was put into production with the input you put in and all the mistakes made. They obviously were not listening. The most important part of production should have been getting the case correct. What happened ???
There are lots of things that need to go right for the"perfect" speedy. IMO watchdives gets more right than Pagani. The case is a huge part, yes, but so is the dial, aluminum bezel, good bracelet, and a good crystal. Sadly at this point nobody makes the perfect speedy clomage, but this one is my favorite. Hoping V2 comes soon
@@EscapeWheel I love the dial layout and the bezel .. buts that side case thickness after listening to comments must be significant. I have Bulova Luna pilot would you compare the thickness the same? As thats a chunky watch. If its a year to produce a v2 I may consider trying to swap the dial into a PD case ... if its possible.
@@gillyharwood I haven't had a lunar pilot. Best to just wait and see for yourself. A lot of people say it's not bad, and honestly it's not bad on its own, just when compared to the original or the PD it looks thick. But it's overall thickness is thinner than both
@@EscapeWheel Just got my Speedy delivered . OMG the dial is amazing and I quite like the thicker bezel compared to the PD.. maybe because its not ceramic and looks the part ? The thickness I can live with as when on it wears close to the wrist as you mentioned. Not sure about the bracelet its finishing is good but it feels light and cheap . Maybe its period correct from the 1960s .. doesn't feel as heavy and solid as the PD. So on the wrist the watch feels a little top heavy. Not sure if they have used 316L on the bracelet ? The lume is better than my Bulova Luna Pilot. 😃
This is a decent homage but perfection would mean automatic rather than quartz. Still way better value and higher quality than an Omega x Swatch Moonswatch and way cheaper
I'm not sure if you're completely honest here. The pagani is so much better than this one and HALF the price. You're going to split hairs about a 2 millimeter taper on the bracelet and concave subdials? You're outright lying about the brushing on the watchdive. At 10:40, you can clearly see on the video the very sloppy brushing on the case, visible scatchmarks by the brush. The pagani brushing is flawless. The case on the WD is boring and huge, The crown and the pushers are way too big,. Meanwhile, on the PD, slim and well proportioned case and perfect size crown and pushers, sapphire bezel, not ceramic, high end brushing. I'm not sure why you had to change the crystal on the 1701, I have a version six, and the crystal is amazing. For some reason, you believe the WD is better than the PD in every metric? Big pass on this dud.
@@akiblue my experience could be different from yours. I have the V3 Pagani and the brushing was pretty poor, the transitions to polished had over brushing, and the crown side "strip" of brushing was inconsistent. A lot of the speedy appeal (to me) is in the dial and bezel insert, and the PD just never felt right, the sunken subdials don't look good toe at all, the ceramic (yes it's ceramic on the black model, sapphire on only a couple colors) bezel looks cheap, and the crystal on early V3's like mine lacked any AR...later models may be better but I doubt any better than the WD version which is excellent. And it's more than just those things....it's a nicer bracelet, mine does have better case finishing overall, the bracelet is not as sharp and is finished to a higher standard, and the lume is much better. So to me, it hits the right boxes and I love wearing it, where I never loved wearing the Pagani. And now WD have revised the case to be much slimmer (looking) and closer to the omega case along with other minor improvements. What I'm saying is...I like the WD for the things it does right (for me) and you like the Pagani for things it does right, and that's OK
Lume is the biggest draw for me here. But that case shape! I hate to say it, but it's ugly. And coin edge caseback? Why? Let's see if V2 addresses these issues.
Since when is an Alu bezel better than ceramic? OK it looks better, but come back after a month on the wrist. The Alu will be scratched and then suddenly the PD will look sooo much better....
@@boomshanka8743 Totally agree with boomshanka. Alu bezel will age nicely. Look at any vintage Rolex or Seiko or whatever brand watch photo and see how absolutely amazing they look all faded and distressed and scratched and worn. It's called character. Ceramic will still look almost new - BORING!!! And if it only takes a month to scratch up an Alu bezel I must be doing something wrong as I've been wearing my Seiko SRPD heavily for three years and not a mark on it anywhere.
@@renebense You have no idea how close you are! Spinnaker did a watch called 'The Wreck' that came pre-aged and I'm sure other brands have done similar over the years.
@@RustyShackleford-mq5dq I don't see how this watch takes anything away from the Speedmaster...it's legendary. I'd be more pissed at swatch and the moonswatch than this.
@@EscapeWheel oh believe me I am. I consider the moonswatch every bit a cheap copy as this lot. They all offend me equally. Personally, I'd have reviewed and recommended the Bulova Lunar Pilot.
I have this watch and an Omega Speedmaster. Had the Pagani Design Speedmaster in the past (gave it to my brother).
Let me tell you the Watchdives Speedmaster blows the Pagani out of the water:
1. The bracelet feels 90% similar to a real Speedmaster bracelet. It is incredible how they could deliver that at this price point.
2. The dial more closely resembles the Speedmaster dial.
3. The lume is a HUGE improvement over the Pagani.
4. The domed crystal mimicks the Speedmaster crystal much more closely than the Pagani.
5. No date window (like the original) that RUINS the dial symmetry on the Pagani.
The only thing that Pagani has over Watchdives is the engraved case back.
Easily recommend the Watchdives Speedmaster over the Pagani Design Speedmaster. As an Omega Speedmaster owner I know what I am comparing the watches with. 😉
Thanks! What is your opinion about the case thickness compared to the gen?
@@marty298 hardly noticeable! You can see it if you hold them next to each other, you barely notice/see the difference when you wear the watch on your wrist.
For the point 5, I disagree with you. Dial symmetry is already ruined because you have a 12h/24h subdial... even when the chronograph function is not working. Date is very useful and it's not ugly if you have a color match date wheel. But all tastes are in nature...
Is the crystal like the hesalite or the omega sapphire?
Dial is top notch... no date complication too ..Bracelet is way better...But the case is way too thick in my opinion...PDs casing is more true to the OG. Great review.
How did they not notice the case was that bad? I don't understand it lol. Really looking forward to the next version!
Same case shape as everyone else except Pagani, really. I give them some points for finishing it much nicer than the Pagani....but man, a new Midcase would really set them apart from the rest.
Finally I’ve been waiting for someone to review this!
Steve is the winner of the Speedy Race to Review. 👏😂
With thanks? 🎉
Haha, the rest can win with the others, but I had to be first with this one...it's kind of my baby 😂
Especially since you're on or next to the Space Coast! ❤️
Congratulations Steve ! One small step for this channel, one giant leap for speedy homage review !
That stepped dial is the best
I've seen so far. It is the single biggest factor for me in creating much needed depth for the design. Eagerly awaiting my white dial which I'll be comparing to the gen on the Chinese Watches subreddit. Cheers
I really like the crystal of the Watchdives, good heighth, and fantastic distortions around the chapter ring. Other than that, I'll keep my V3 Pagani PD-1701. It looks great on my wrist and very comfortable, just love it. The big slab sides of the Watchdives is an instant turn off for me. I went deaf at that point. Nothing has been greatly improved to peak my interest. It was a great review though, thanks for sharing.
I agree with you completely. Staying pretty happy with my v3 Pagani. Oh, and I believe it's "pique"...
@@guyo68 someone should shame you for your pedantry in a fit of pique
@@brianmccord7387 well then, job done, I guess. Now who's gonna shame you for your pedantry in attempting to shame me...?
I absolutely love your intros. Theyre so soothing and relaxing.
I'm glad you enjoy...they are (mostly) fun to shoot as well
Great review! I like it but I have a few from pagani. They have too many things that need fixed so I hope they do a V2.
Glad you mentioned the torsion problem on the chrono hand. Even though you stated a workaround, something like that would keep me from buying this. A million thank you’s
Happy to help...should be noted not all suffer from this...another reviewer (posted yesterday) said he has no such issue with both of his 🤷
I like your consistent use of a caliper in your reviews. Thanks.
the "no date' nails the look. great review
Looking forward to a potential version 2! Any idea of how fast they typically iterate on these designs?
i asked watchdives and they said about 1 year for version 2
@@florin1737good to know, thanks for checking! Gotta be patient in the meantime haha
V2 is already out with thinner case
It would be extremely nice if the lugs fit the original speedy end links, the pd is not quite perfect...
well, the WD and the PD bracelets are interchangeable and fit each other quite well, so it'll probably be the same story for the watchdives.
Just ordered one in black . For me , I really like the thickness of the case . So much less busy than the 1701 which I also own . Also , love the crystal and dial .
Anyway , to each their own .
I actually like that thick case it has a big presence. I don't like homages that are a copy and paste.
A nice hommage and a solid price point. I saved up and waited for a few years because I wanted a vintage Speedy from the 1960s.
The coin edge case back is a welcome addition. I just bought the tool for 12 bucks and it's so much easier to open the case back when batteries need to be replaced.
what tool did you buy?
Given the lower cost of the Pagani and its much nicer case who would ever buy the Watchdives?...
That is super cool of you to knock this out before going on vacation. Even though PD Quartz watches are smoking values, there are a few issues that prevented me from picking one up, but this one addresses those issues. And the introductory price for this watch is ridonculous. Thanks!
Almost... we almost there guys. Bezel a little thinner. Innercase thinner. And the subdials bigger and whe are there 🎉
Agreed with general opinion
The PD remains by a significant margin the king of the Speedy homages
I think we agree en masse to disagree with the poster -
I think one’s opinion may be altered by a financial incentive
I think it's all a matter of opinion. The PD is great for the price. A nicely shaped case and a lower price point is all that it has going for it, though (IMO). No, the WD isn't perfect (what watch is?) but (again, IMO) The ONLY place this falls short is the case side profile. The better crystal, case finishing, and bracelet are something you can't really argue with....I guess lume matters to some but not others (this blows the PD away), and the more accurate bezel but being a "worse" material could go either way, same with the more accurate dial on the WD. But having them both in hand, I can't see how anyone would pick the PD over the WD...it's just a better made watch...and yeah, sure, some will pay more for that while others won't. 🤷
I don’t see how you can say the PD is better by a significant margin? The WD looks better from 10 feet away. Can you not see that?
Love your reviews Steve! Always clear and detailed 👍
The white dial should put the chronograph lettering in a bright wet red font and it will sell like hot cakes…. And a silver applied logo on both… it will be the best watch on ali
Agree with the red text, it would look really good....not sure I agree with the applied logo, though.
V2 case was just announced today and it looks so good. will be getting the V2 watch in soon, already talked to them and have it on order :)
I have the all black, and grey with gold dial Pagani, and both look great.
Awesome review, I just ordered both color ways!!!!! So excited!!!!⌚️👀
The new v2 arrived😉
Combine the PD case and buttons with the WD dial, bezel, hands and bracelet and you'd have a winner. Version 2 perhaps.
Pretty disappointing that the watch just came out and we’re already waiting for a v2 to fix all the problems
This review came in so fast! Do you ever sleep? 😂 That’s good because I couldn’t wait. The crystal, the matte aluminum bezel and the matte dial are the stars of the show. I mean, that crystal is amazing! I do like PD’s case better but that’s it. I’m looking forward to watching the review of the WatchDives you’re wearing on this video.
It looks soooo thick! Why Watchdives? why?
On a quartz movement as well lol
Thought the same watchdives said on reddit that's why it has the discount they're not satisfied with the case and are making a new version
The dial does it for me!
I don’t understand why Pagani always has a date window on the dials.
difficult to understand your microphone while inside, outside sounds a lot better strangely enough
Thanks for the comparative review, that's what we all wanted. Can you get them to slim the case sides down, it's just too much of a slab from the side, the Pagani wins that element.
I think they are already working on it 🤞
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Nice watch Steve . I have the PD mission to Uranus, having had the original Swatch one, it was an improvement. I've had it over a year and apart from the bad lume, which isn't an issue on a Chrono anyway. However!!....although the PD is slimmer I actually like the chunky look of the Watchdive, and I'll consider getting one. I happen to have the caseback tool to fit this too and prefer the plain caseback to the cartoonish one that was once on my PD. I admit I do also like the bigger, chunkier pushers too. I have an 8.1" and maybe this is better for me. And finally, yes , it's great lume for a Chronograph. I have a far more expensive Orient panda dial chronograph and the Watchdives looks like it beats it too. Only thing is, the price could be a little bit lower. I wouldn't expect a Pagani price given how better this is, but it's still a bit high. Finally, I took the bracelet off my PD I wasn't overly impressed, so replaced it with a good quality white hand made leather strap to give it a Moonswatch look AND, brushed the silly spaceship and moon off the caseback ! Thanks for the great review .
Great watch, however I'll hold for V2 and loving the white dial 🔥
I have an older V3 PD 1701, but I will be getting V2 of this too.
Hey Steve, great review! I like that you compare it to the pd1701. Are you going to get the slimmer V2 in for review?
@@georgepolyakov7732 yes, already ordered 👍
Hey, Do you think an uncle Seiko bracelet would fit perfectly because the lug gap seems very thick??
Dang that v2 is going to be amazing. It takes a lot of self-restraint not to just go ahead and snag the v1.
Case is too thick in this. Case is too thin on the Pagani. Never happy.
Any plans on getting your hands on a IXDAO Pose Vader? Would love to see your high quality footage of it.
Great review, thank you! Any word on the V2 release date with improvements?
@@josephkatusich2551 should be by the end of the year, maybe sooner. Slimmer side profile, new factory (same that nailed the WD1967 V2 case) I believe everything else will stay the same. They MAY slim down the bezel.
I wish they would have made it thinner like pagani,
I wonder if the bracelet fits the pagani design, if it does and they sell it seperately i might buy it.
Confirmed, bracelet does fit the pagani
They just released a V2 with a thiner case
Вы так подробно разобрали хомаж Sugess, а эти часы поверхностно. Не выдержат такого обзора? Или вы перестали делать подробные обзоры?
I don't understand? I follow the same review format every time. What have I missed here?
@@EscapeWheel
В общем, я приобрёл эти часы. У меня не было Omega, а также других брендов этого уровня, но эти часы смотрятся очень достойно за такую цену. К тому же, у WD есть доверие, ведь они похожи на марку San Martin! Однако сейчас я не нашел обзоров на эти кварцевые хронографы.
This will be heavily discounted in the next Ali sale. That mid case and thick bezel are really off putting.
Watchdives needs to change their name for dress watches.
How is the bracelet? When i got my pagani 1701, the bracelet was pulling my hair and was rough, it was unwearable. I had to get a third-party metal bracelet. How well madevsnd finished is the pracelet of the WD?
@@LandsoulFFXI nicer than the PD. I never had hair pulling with the PD though, but it's edges were pretty sharp. The WD one is a definite step up.
That caseback will be a PITA come battery change time. What were WD thinķing?
Is there any ETA on the V2 of this? I was ready to pull the trigger until I saw that mid case. I'd rather just wait and see which changes they do on the second attempt
I heard 5-6 months away
The things they need to address: 1 the bulky case shape, the sides in particular. 2. Thick bezel. 3. Too big pushers and a crown. 4. The case back opening, 5. Have a date and no date version.
Watchdives or Pagani? 🤔
is it possible that this v1 case fits better on a smaller wrist than the coming v2?
If I may be so bold, what is the size of your wrist? Just so I get a better idea of the sizes of the watches and straps.
7.5" approximately. 63mm wide.
@@EscapeWheel Yeah, mines is 7 3/4, so if it fits you it will probably fit me. I have a problem with straps as I cant get past the first hole and the watch just bobbles about on my wrist. Bracelets usually dont need links removed. Some I need to ask for a spare link, so all the info I can get helps.
Thank you for your reply btw. ...
I know the 24 hour subdial isnt really useful but considering it is a moon watch, it is just a little more fitting given the watch it's homaging.
Yes I know a 12 hour totalizer would he more useful. I dont really time events in hours but you may. Yes I know the Speedmaster was originally a racing watch.
I wonder if I can use the bracelet/clasp on my Speedy Professional... 🤔
There's a good chance. Uncle Seiko speedy bracelets fit the Pagani, the WD bracelet fits the Pagani...so the chances are good that it'll fit the Omega
this is a homage to the moonwatch right? looks nice
Can you replace the Watchdives wd1861 bracet on your Phylida speedmaster? help me please. thank you so much!
I sold the Phylida a while back, sorry
Interesting homage model. I have currently the Pagani one. The big deal breaker of the PD was the bracelet, I couldn't fix it to my 6.5 inch wrist. The watchdive model seems to fix this issue. Case thickness is not my cup of tea, nor the pushers size, there gone too off, just too much. I love instead the aluminium bezel and the big plus is the dial design. Subdials are not so clutter and respect the omega original model. Really cool. All in all, they got plenty of room for a second version for this watch. We'll see. Excellent video by the way and pretty informative.
I wonder if the bracelet would fit the real Speedy.
My only nitpicks are the bezel being slightly thick and pushers sticking out a bit; I feel like the crown guards could be more pronounced. Other than that, they nailed it! Love the dial & tapered bracelet! Pagani really messed up the bezel numbering scheme with their V3.
Why the chunky case tho?
It has that big clunky case. The bezel is not ceramic. The lume is nice, and the 20mm to 16mm is great. I don't think Pagani Design chose to change the bezel and remove the dots from the dial. It seems like they were forced to do that. If this company has success, they might also have to change that.
The name is just funny to me, Watch dives? Looks like the Harley Davidson logo as well. People like to rip on Pagani design, but Watch dives haha.
If someone likes it though, that's what it's all about! Enjoy that Watch Dives!
they are actually working on a new name currently. watchdives is great for their store name, but doesn't work to well on actual watches.
@@EscapeWheel That's good, I hope they pick a good name!
its great!
Very thick watch! Plus for me that 24 hour dial is useless, give me a chrono that can time 12 hours. Looks good on the rubber band but I prefer butterfly clasps. Good review friend!
You only buy this type of homage once, so I’m waiting for v2.
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I’m buying one. My real Speedy will be getting a lot less wrist time.
would people be bothered if they just used a white thin chrono seconds hand?
How are you supposed to remove the caseback?
Sticky ball, ball of duct tape, or a Rolex caseback toolset for like $10. It's not hard, but it's not as easy as the simple caseback notches.
Thanks, though the only time the non-Rolex methods worked for me was when the battery had been changed previously as the manufacturers overtighten the backs.
@@zosothezephead837 I've used the Duct tape method a few times now...it ain't easy but it's doable.
It's unnecessarily though isn't it. What were WD thinking. I have an Ali Ex BB58 which have a Rolex case back. Its time keeping is terrible and it wouldn't surprise me if it has a cheap Chinese movement instead of the NH35. But I can't remove the case back to check.
Don't buy a Speedy homage even if you really want one, buy a Seiko mechaquartz or a Seagull and save the real deal for your grail. I've yet to see a good homage of the thing, and that includes the Moonswatch.
Who needs a Moonswatch eh? These watches are killing it!
I bought this watch in the sale and awaiting delivery.. looks like I will be sending it back after this review. Or could the dial be swapped out to the PD case which is must better. Your unfairly knocking the PD when Watchdives has the most important aspect wrong .. the case. 😂😂
Not sure why this was put into production with the input you put in and all the mistakes made. They obviously were not listening. The most important part of production should have been getting the case correct.
What happened ???
There are lots of things that need to go right for the"perfect" speedy. IMO watchdives gets more right than Pagani. The case is a huge part, yes, but so is the dial, aluminum bezel, good bracelet, and a good crystal. Sadly at this point nobody makes the perfect speedy clomage, but this one is my favorite. Hoping V2 comes soon
@@EscapeWheel I love the dial layout and the bezel .. buts that side case thickness after listening to comments must be significant.
I have Bulova Luna pilot would you compare the thickness the same? As thats a chunky watch.
If its a year to produce a v2 I may consider trying to swap the dial into a PD case ... if its possible.
@@gillyharwood I haven't had a lunar pilot. Best to just wait and see for yourself. A lot of people say it's not bad, and honestly it's not bad on its own, just when compared to the original or the PD it looks thick. But it's overall thickness is thinner than both
@@EscapeWheel Just got my Speedy delivered . OMG the dial is amazing and I quite like the thicker bezel compared to the PD.. maybe because its not ceramic and looks the part ? The thickness I can live with as when on it wears close to the wrist as you mentioned. Not sure about the bracelet its finishing is good but it feels light and cheap . Maybe its period correct from the 1960s .. doesn't feel as heavy and solid as the PD. So on the wrist the watch feels a little top heavy. Not sure if they have used 316L on the bracelet ? The lume is better than my Bulova Luna Pilot. 😃
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Mate, you really need to get your microphone sorted out ….. the sound quality makes this virtually impossible to watch/listen.
@@scotia7566 what is it about the sound? I very rarely get any negative feedback about the audio being a problem.
Two words: diffused lighting. The glare is so distracting.
Looks like a rebadged Pagani where they forgot to machine the chamfer to make the mid case thinner
What... There are so many differences. Maybe you're confused because they are both homages of the same original watch 😂
This is a decent homage but perfection would mean automatic rather than quartz. Still way better value and higher quality than an Omega x Swatch Moonswatch and way cheaper
I'm not sure if you're completely honest here. The pagani is so much better than this one and HALF the price. You're going to split hairs about a 2 millimeter taper on the bracelet and concave subdials? You're outright lying about the brushing on the watchdive. At 10:40, you can clearly see on the video the very sloppy brushing on the case, visible scatchmarks by the brush. The pagani brushing is flawless. The case on the WD is boring and huge, The crown and the pushers are way too big,. Meanwhile, on the PD, slim and well proportioned case and perfect size crown and pushers, sapphire bezel, not ceramic, high end brushing. I'm not sure why you had to change the crystal on the 1701, I have a version six, and the crystal is amazing. For some reason, you believe the WD is better than the PD in every metric?
Big pass on this dud.
@@akiblue my experience could be different from yours. I have the V3 Pagani and the brushing was pretty poor, the transitions to polished had over brushing, and the crown side "strip" of brushing was inconsistent. A lot of the speedy appeal (to me) is in the dial and bezel insert, and the PD just never felt right, the sunken subdials don't look good toe at all, the ceramic (yes it's ceramic on the black model, sapphire on only a couple colors) bezel looks cheap, and the crystal on early V3's like mine lacked any AR...later models may be better but I doubt any better than the WD version which is excellent. And it's more than just those things....it's a nicer bracelet, mine does have better case finishing overall, the bracelet is not as sharp and is finished to a higher standard, and the lume is much better. So to me, it hits the right boxes and I love wearing it, where I never loved wearing the Pagani. And now WD have revised the case to be much slimmer (looking) and closer to the omega case along with other minor improvements.
What I'm saying is...I like the WD for the things it does right (for me) and you like the Pagani for things it does right, and that's OK
@EscapeWheel agreed! 😀 This made me appreciate the omega so much more. I think I'll start saving for the real thing.
Lume is the biggest draw for me here. But that case shape! I hate to say it, but it's ugly. And coin edge caseback? Why? Let's see if V2 addresses these issues.
Since when is an Alu bezel better than ceramic? OK it looks better, but come back after a month on the wrist. The Alu will be scratched and then suddenly the PD will look sooo much better....
Aluminium bezels aquire patina though. It's all about the patina.
@@boomshanka8743 Totally agree with boomshanka. Alu bezel will age nicely. Look at any vintage Rolex or Seiko or whatever brand watch photo and see how absolutely amazing they look all faded and distressed and scratched and worn. It's called character. Ceramic will still look almost new - BORING!!!
And if it only takes a month to scratch up an Alu bezel I must be doing something wrong as I've been wearing my Seiko SRPD heavily for three years and not a mark on it anywhere.
Of course, I know. The next hype..? Pre scratched Alu bezels..?
@@renebense You have no idea how close you are! Spinnaker did a watch called 'The Wreck' that came pre-aged and I'm sure other brands have done similar over the years.
The alu bezel is the reason I don't wear my vintage speedmaster anymore. That dot over 9 bezel doesnt need patina in the wrong place.
Not watchdives best work. That mid case thickness is a NO NO….. Pagani looks much nicer especially side by side. Bring on V2……
As a Speedmaster owner, I find these cheap copies quite offensive. The watch community should not be supporting "homage" watches.
@@RustyShackleford-mq5dq I don't see how this watch takes anything away from the Speedmaster...it's legendary. I'd be more pissed at swatch and the moonswatch than this.
@@EscapeWheel oh believe me I am. I consider the moonswatch every bit a cheap copy as this lot. They all offend me equally.
Personally, I'd have reviewed and recommended the Bulova Lunar Pilot.
Pushers look to big
One ugly side view. What were they thinking
A shame both are 2mm too small compared to the OG Speedy
They aren't - the bezel is 40mm, the case 42mm.
PG is terrible
Can you replace the Watchdives wd1861 bracet on your Phylida speedmaster? help me please. thank you so much!
If the watchdives wd1861 bracelet fits with the Phylida speedmaster, I will buy another watchdives wd1861.