Thanks man....Awesome I was waiting for a good speed run on this Truggy love the speed but seems to be a " flipper " and it don't seem to land on it's wheels much it likes to " turtle " alot?? What would you say is the reason for the flipping?....is it the change of tires, the suspension, or running on asphalt....I have noticed you have to be careful with tires just a lil difference in size and compound makes a big difference in handling. I'm torn between the Cheetah and the Vkar Bison.....I have seen all your vids on them and others in the same price range and I think the Cheetah has more good than bad...I have seen you beat the hell out your cheetah and besides cosmetics and tires and the spoiler and wheelie bar lol it's held up extremely well I haven't seen you changing any broken parts!!??! I don't run my RCs quite as hard as you do so I think it would hold up really well under my abuse!!! lol You do great videos informative and you tell the good the bad and the ugly...thanks again
Make a drag bar out of dollar store spatula. Ziptie it to the shock tower so it sits about an inch off the ground. Everytime it tries to wheelie it will stay grounded much better and not add much weight.
Tank 62 What upgrades you do tank? Can you provide me any details? I'd like to upgrade mine but not sure where to find aftermarket hop ups for this. Any advice?
Hey steve was this the servo you did you servo installation video on? Did that servo turn out to be not so good or was this the stock servo? I was gonna put in that same one you did to upgrade my cheetah extreme. Thanks. Actually I think the newer version I got has the upgraded 20kg servo so I might be good. Been too much snow and cold to run it.
hello! i have some questions! the differencial is durable? or it breaks due to the speed that the car reach? you breaked anything? any gears or something? you recomend? thanks
Wait, 4S??? What the...? I don't believe the motor is rated for 4S... I blew my motor after only a few minutes run time on 4S, so interesting that you can even run it on 4S with the stock ESC. You said something about it being the "upgraded" version, but what's upgraded about it? Is it just the ESC? And the arms twisting like that also happened to my Team Magic E6 III HX when I first got it, but it's not happened to me on my Cheetahs. It's just the design of the arms are too thin, same issue with the E6. But hey, as long as they don't break, it's all good. Haha
+Aussie RC Playground hey Vas, yeah the esc is a 120amp hobbywing, different servo and flysky electronics. I have run 4s since the day I got it, hahaha. This thing has had a hard life :)
+RC Tanks & Trucks 24/7 Yes the upgraded version has a hobbywing 120A ESC and Flysky elections but the one in this video is the original 21101 80A version yeah?
Sounds like a bad motor, Aussie. Been running 4s in my Bison (120a esc), almost since I got it 4 months ago. I do have a twin Turnigy fan connected to a gyro, works good.
DroidTech Yes, if you have the 120a hobbywing then that is 3 and 4s capable but hey do it at your own risk but should be fine. That's a powerful, quality esc. I think vas had the 80 amp version thus all the confusion.
Hi! What do you recommend on 3s batteries for this car? Like I'm still new to the hobby. How high can I go on battery capacity and in a safe way. Thank you
Sweet run Steve! Do you think reducing the steering dualrate and/or reducing braking power (if esc is programmable) will reduce the flip overs? Call me old but I think 70kmh is plenty! Crazy that this is almost as fast as the hbx t6!
Hi mate,great videos as always! Please give me a final advice since you ran both:JLB Cheetah 120A esc or DHK Zombie 100A esc? Quite the same price so I'm really uncertain...but I can't take both and I have to choose,so I hope you can help me,thanks.
+giannetto1000 hey bro, haven't run the 120amp version yet, this is still the original model. I would still highly recommend the dhk Zombie 8E. It's such a great car and I have had no issues with it. Also, I think it is on special at the moment.
Hi, I have a question Can you help me? If I put a 2000kv orion motor 4pole in the cheetah jlb you believe the esc will "to endure" even walking with 3s?. Sorry but i'm stil learning english lol.
@@RCTanksTrucks247 Ok, thanks for the reply. Just asking because apparently the 80A ESC is only rated for 3s and the motor burns within a few mins of running it with 4s. I’ll take your word for it though.
i have the cheetah 2 in 80 version.. I keep trying to center the steering trim but it keeps going off center... what can I do to fix it ? might it be the servo? thanks
I installed Proline Badlands .. I need a much better servo. I've been looking in to the hitec hs-5646wp but it's a lil out of my budget. I need good value for money.. what you guys recommend?
please bring a video how you started 3d printing!? you would show this while you building the micro with the g-teng watch. but the cheetah is always fun to watch! change the wheel hubs against someone they have the same hex so you get a bigger chance to find them.
I am confuse. Dont know if i should get this one or the bison. The bison looks sick and more planted than the JLB, but seems to break easily. Can you see if the bison body shell and wing will fit on the JLB? That tx isnt the one that comes with the car right? Thx and nice video.
Yeah, everyone asks the same thing, people who have had experience with both always say when considering Bison or JLB say get the the DHK zombie, much more stable handling then both and better built too. However because it's larger and has a lower KV motor then the JLB and VKR it needs 4S to really rip will only do 70k/h max on 4S but is rock sold doing so will accelerate there just as fast as the others. Gearbest are doing a sale on it for the next 5 hours AU $380 ($390 shipped) which is really good value and make your decision easier too.
Already own the zombie. Love it its perfect. But i want a second RC and i like the aero style and look of the bison. So first round was bison vs zombie... zombie won, now is bison vs JLB.
Tiago Martins i got the bison about 4 months ago. Its really a great truck, and no, i havent broken anything and i am not going easy on it. I measured mine on 3s with 74 km/h. The only things that i did was change the front and middle diff fluids.
Tristan thats good. But every time i do a search i see someone with a broken bison. :( Ya the bison is probably a little bit faster because is chassis is plastic. JLB is probably heavier but in a collision at same speed the bison probably would break first. In other hand the bison seems to handle better than the JLB with may be helpfull to avoid collisions.
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That wheelie bar took the day off
very fast run that brother.....
cant wait to see my fast run,,
Could an additional weight at the front help preventing wheelie and improve max speed ?
Exactly what I'm thinking to do with mine when it arrives!
Yeah.. put weight at front
logically, yes. but remember it will effect the diff gear
no, he needs a center diff to not wheelie that much, like the pirates v3 truggy
Nice, job pretty sure this is the only successful 4S top speed JLB Chetah/ 21101 video out there :D
+andrew mccluskey thanks man :)
Great speed run 👍🏻
Much appreciated bro
Thanks man....Awesome I was waiting for a good speed run on this Truggy love the speed but seems to be a " flipper " and it don't seem to land on it's wheels much it likes to " turtle " alot?? What would you say is the reason for the flipping?....is it the change of tires, the suspension, or running on asphalt....I have noticed you have to be careful with tires just a lil difference in size and compound makes a big difference in handling. I'm torn between the Cheetah and the Vkar Bison.....I have seen all your vids on them and others in the same price range and I think the Cheetah has more good than bad...I have seen you beat the hell out your cheetah and besides cosmetics and tires and the spoiler and wheelie bar lol it's held up extremely well I haven't seen you changing any broken parts!!??! I don't run my RCs quite as hard as you do so I think it would hold up really well under my abuse!!! lol You do great videos informative and you tell the good the bad and the ugly...thanks again
Make a drag bar out of dollar store spatula. Ziptie it to the shock tower so it sits about an inch off the ground. Everytime it tries to wheelie it will stay grounded much better and not add much weight.
After I have changed so many parts on my JLB I don't even call it a JLB anymore LOL
Tank 62 What upgrades you do tank? Can you provide me any details? I'd like to upgrade mine but not sure where to find aftermarket hop ups for this. Any advice?
I'm giving this video a like keep up the good work and you should try drifting
+Moatheboss Hamdan thanks, appreciate your comment and thanks for watching. I would like to try drifting one day
lol yup wouldnt be the vkar w bar,i got ne on my zombie8e,holdn up to backflips and tumbles so far,ben on for 2mnths nw,need it for 4S
Hey steve was this the servo you did you servo installation video on? Did that servo turn out to be not so good or was this the stock servo? I was gonna put in that same one you did to upgrade my cheetah extreme. Thanks. Actually I think the newer version I got has the upgraded 20kg servo so I might be good. Been too much snow and cold to run it.
You need a runway my man! Im gonna get me one of those! :)
+Angelo C haha, thanks man. Appreciate your comment and check it the link in the description :=
I just ordered my jlb cheetah the 21101 and I wanted to se if I could use a four s and 😂😂 u can and the speed with a four s is insane
Wonderful work Steve.
+Zeissler Music cheers mate :)
hello! i have some questions!
the differencial is durable? or it breaks due to the speed that the car reach? you breaked anything? any gears or something?
you recomend? thanks
Wait, 4S??? What the...? I don't believe the motor is rated for 4S... I blew my motor after only a few minutes run time on 4S, so interesting that you can even run it on 4S with the stock ESC. You said something about it being the "upgraded" version, but what's upgraded about it? Is it just the ESC?
And the arms twisting like that also happened to my Team Magic E6 III HX when I first got it, but it's not happened to me on my Cheetahs. It's just the design of the arms are too thin, same issue with the E6. But hey, as long as they don't break, it's all good. Haha
+Aussie RC Playground hey Vas, yeah the esc is a 120amp hobbywing, different servo and flysky electronics.
I have run 4s since the day I got it, hahaha. This thing has had a hard life :)
+RC Tanks & Trucks 24/7
Yes the upgraded version has a hobbywing 120A ESC and Flysky elections but the one in this video is the original 21101 80A version yeah?
+andrew mccluskey yeah the original one
Sounds like a bad motor, Aussie. Been running 4s in my Bison (120a esc), almost since I got it 4 months ago. I do have a twin Turnigy fan connected to a gyro, works good.
DroidTech Yes, if you have the 120a hobbywing then that is 3 and 4s capable but hey do it at your own risk but should be fine. That's a powerful, quality esc. I think vas had the 80 amp version thus all the confusion.
Good speed test.
+Nordic RC Visions thanks for watching and commenting
Is it okay to use 4s as the main battery for the 120amp version?
Yeah man
Hi! What do you recommend on 3s batteries for this car? Like I'm still new to the hobby. How high can I go on battery capacity and in a safe way. Thank you
Hello mate what was the best 4 s battery and mah for this I’m the 120 amp please reply I’m subscribed now
Any 4s battery will work. Ideally you want one above 25c and around 5000mah capacity for greater runtime
Sweet run Steve! Do you think reducing the steering dualrate and/or reducing braking power (if esc is programmable) will reduce the flip overs? Call me old but I think 70kmh is plenty! Crazy that this is almost as fast as the hbx t6!
+Juju it would help but it just wants to flip regardless :)
Hi mate,great videos as always!
Please give me a final advice since you ran both:JLB Cheetah 120A esc or DHK Zombie 100A esc?
Quite the same price so I'm really uncertain...but I can't take both and I have to choose,so I hope you can help me,thanks.
+giannetto1000 hey bro, haven't run the 120amp version yet, this is still the original model. I would still highly recommend the dhk Zombie 8E. It's such a great car and I have had no issues with it. Also, I think it is on special at the moment.
Hi, I have a question
Can you help me?
If I put a 2000kv orion motor
4pole in the cheetah jlb you believe the esc will "to endure" even walking with 3s?. Sorry but i'm stil learning english lol.
To run this rc on 4s all you have to do is buy 4s battery? Or do you have to upgrade something in the car
nice video!
+ichi ken thanks :)
I was also thinking the range on these could be better is there any chance or increasing it do think
It's far enough to be honest.
which one is better JLB J3 SPEED with JLB 21101
No difference
Hi can u tell my what 4s battery and charger you use for this car please?
get a nut of thingiverse and scale it up yourself and print it, works on my jlb
Why does the brakes have that sudden stop on the dime type rather smooth.
Because my JLB doesn't stop smooth.
Is that how this car suppose to stop?
Should be progressive. They do break fairly quickly tho
Can I continuously run a 4s battery in the 80A version?
Yeah
@@RCTanksTrucks247 Ok, thanks for the reply. Just asking because apparently the 80A ESC is only rated for 3s and the motor burns within a few mins of running it with 4s. I’ll take your word for it though.
Don't brake and turn coming from a high speed only work s with on road cars
Can u run 4s on the 80amp esc with the 3670 2200kv motor?
Yup
From where did you get the 4S battery pack?
That thing is crazy fast and in 4s is just to much punch.....
Where did you get the Dynamite speed tracker?
+xrayracer1 I ordered from my local hobby shop, crazyhobbies
i have the cheetah 2 in 80 version.. I keep trying to center the steering trim but it keeps going off center... what can I do to fix it ? might it be the servo? thanks
I installed Proline Badlands .. I need a much better servo. I've been looking in to the hitec hs-5646wp but it's a lil out of my budget. I need good value for money.. what you guys recommend?
please
bring a video how you started 3d printing!? you would show this while you building the micro with the g-teng watch. but the cheetah is always fun to watch! change the wheel hubs against someone they have the same hex so you get a bigger chance to find them.
+Toni L thanks Toni, glad you liked it and thanks for watching. I should do some 3d printer videos.
could you give me the link of the 4s battery thanks bro
Where did you get the GPS?
+Tank 62 I brought it from Crazyhobbies
4s esc 80a? this is it?
If you use a 4s battery do you have press a button on the switch to make it beep 4 times on the bison vkar???
No need. Just plug in the 4s and let it rip
Hi Steve, again a tire blow? :)
+Peter Weber thanks Peter, yeah most definitely :)
Puedo ponerle una de 5000 mAmp a 60 C a mi cheetah 120?
i just got 102kmh on jlb21101..4s lipo...45c....
👍
58mph nice!
+Mike DeFina cheers
Thicker diff oils will fix that for you!
+mtctookie25 yeah thanks for that. I was planning to do that
wow I always thought that the bison was faster than the cheetah, guess not 👍👍
+R Jabberjaw this is just harder to keep the front wheels planted
You should be hitting triple digits on 4s, something's wrong, maybe try all foam tires and a lower cg.
Yeah I have already but since sold it
@@RCTanksTrucks247 oh, ok. Well I subbed to be interested in future ventures and videos 👍
Awesomeness, thanks
I really like the jlb 21101 car. Watching him play feels like he's destroying and disrespecting the toy he's playing with. 😢
It's just a toy man. Relax
nyc BRO
+Technical Aggarwal thanks
I am confuse. Dont know if i should get this one or the bison.
The bison looks sick and more planted than the JLB, but seems to break easily.
Can you see if the bison body shell and wing will fit on the JLB?
That tx isnt the one that comes with the car right?
Thx and nice video.
Yeah, everyone asks the same thing, people who have had experience with both always say when considering Bison or JLB say get the the DHK zombie, much more stable handling then both and better built too. However because it's larger and has a lower KV motor then the JLB and VKR it needs 4S to really rip will only do 70k/h max on 4S but is rock sold doing so will accelerate there just as fast as the others.
Gearbest are doing a sale on it for the next 5 hours AU $380 ($390 shipped) which is really good value and make your decision easier too.
Already own the zombie. Love it its perfect. But i want a second RC and i like the aero style and look of the bison. So first round was bison vs zombie... zombie won, now is bison vs JLB.
Tiago Martins i got the bison about 4 months ago. Its really a great truck, and no, i havent broken anything and i am not going easy on it. I measured mine on 3s with 74 km/h. The only things that i did was change the front and middle diff fluids.
Tristan thats good. But every time i do a search i see someone with a broken bison. :( Ya the bison is probably a little bit faster because is chassis is plastic. JLB is probably heavier but in a collision at same speed the bison probably would break first. In other hand the bison seems to handle better than the JLB with may be helpfull to avoid collisions.
+Tiago Martins thanks man, yeah I have changed the receiver and transmitter to a flysky. You would need to some cutting but the body would fit.
Does the body on upgraded cheetah fit on the old version?
+Ymel Pearl De Jesus yeah just need to redrill the body post holes
RC Tanks & Trucks 24/7 thanks a lot Steve! You're the best!
extend the wheelie bar
Is the wheelie bar available on thingiverse?
I have to upload my own version, slightly different and thicker than the stock one
RC Tanks & Trucks 24/7 thanks
Hi buddy thanks for the reply so would 6500mah 65c be ok
Might not fit in the battery compartment
Vkar bison è il migliore!
fast., this motor 2500 KV ?
Stock set up
Was the tyre broken after that?? 9:58
No, it was just a rip in space time... YES IT BROKE
@@exotikinc3397 thanks lol
@@felixbaum2180 lol
I have a 80 amp one and can I use 4s
+jayden rosen yes it can
@@RCTanksTrucks247 Aussie RC Playground says the motor blew on 4s ? are u sure it can handle 4s stock ?
Stock motor and esc ??? Can use 4s battery
Yep
So I can just buy on a put a 4s for r 6s in?
+Mitch D 4s is the max, 6s and you will have a rolling hand grenade :)
is 21101 the 120esc
+bigfan man no, there is this one which is 80amp and then a upgraded version which is 120amp. I will do an unboxing video soon
Jlb cheetah 21101 e jlb cheetah le ho entrambi..
Troppi difetti e scarsa qualità
mercaffari primo commento in italiano 😎😘😅
Yes!! Finally lol
+DENSUTUBE2008 haha yeah I know ay :)
Can I have ur 4s please
+hayden Austin?
Check out my videos, I'm running mine on 6s after a couple modifications.
That thing is crazy fast and in 4s is just to much punch.....
+Goncalo Quinas yeah it is pretty insane :)