And this is how they ended: Stephanie gets betrayed. Jason gets arrested for grand theft auto. Dick became insane. Damian returned to the League of Assassins and killed his monk brothers. Tim becomes rich.
My man kept out several key details from this comic. This is a simulation a villain put them in. These futures are what Batman thought would happen to them without him. So none of this is really official in any way. And while yes, for a moment they are all happy and successful. Later in the comic, they all fall apart in their own way. Dick loses himself, with all the lies and lack of clear rules that are common with spy work, he becomes unable to even trust his own heart and sinks deep into depression, mania and what looks like substance abuse. They say it was the hypnosis he was using, but he knows the truth. Spoiler eventually loses the trust of everyone because she leads the Teen Titans farther and farther away from the Justice League. Superman asks her to reel them back in and because of her mistrust of adults, she starts a fight with him over it. And the Titans lose. Badly. Damien eventually grows tired of being a monk. He wants more than to "just be". Hes asked to leave the monestary, and he hurts his monk brothers. He then returns to the League of Assassins, more willing to follow them, than ever. And finally, Jason is still better off, in my opinion. He stops winning races, but because his organization **always** needs money, he resorts to stealing cars in order to fund it. One day he is caught and put in jail for a very long time. Edit 1/05/23: Tim wasn't included in the simulation. He was simply being held captive by the villain. This comic is Robins: issue #5
It feels like whenever Jason not become a red hood, he ended up in jail. Like in that interactive story animation, where he killed Joker and ended up in jail.....
It should be specified that these "futures" were idealistic versions of a universe without Batman that their minds made up. Their realistic lives without Batman are a bit rougher than these.
The comic said this is what "batman thinks" would be if they never became Robins. They didn't see some alternative reality or something, this was just some simulation. They also seem to have skipped all the negatives the comic said would happen if they never became Robin. Edit: I read the issue so I can show those negatives I said. Stephanie Brown: I led the Titans, pushing them further and further away from the JLA, Superman asked me to reel them back in. I said adults had never been on my side and... I told superman to go to Hell. There was a fight. We lost. No one would trust me after that. Jason Todd: I kept racing, but I stopped winning. The clinic needed money, it always needed money. So I took a side job doing what I grew up doing. I stole cars I did what I had to do. Until it put me in jail. Damien Wayne: I tried to reach enlightenment tried but could not. I grew frustrated, I wanted more than just to be. My teachers told me to leave, I attacked my brothers. I hurt them. And, having nothing else... I returned to my Grandfather, invigorated. Dick Grayson: And me I lost myself l. Helena said it was the hypnos but I knew It was the lies. The lack of clear rules. The inability to trust my own heart. As Nightwing says it: We all fell. We aren't just there to catch batman before he falls. He catches us. Edit 2: Funny thing I realised, Bruce didn't even make Damien robin, that was Dick. Damien became robin during Dick's time as batman. So you can't really put the blame on Damien being robin on Bruce since he was literally dead during that period lol Also, in the Batman Court of Owls story it's revealed one of Nightwings grandparents was member the court, so if batman never took him in, Nightwing would have been raised an assassin for the Court, not become a spy so this comic straight up just ignores prior nightwing history. For Damien he was literally raised by international group of terrorists, being Robin gave him a dad and siblings, he also became friends with other kid heroes like Jon Kent Superboy. I don't know how anyone can look at this and be like "Oh yea, being raised by Taila is so much better then Bruce and Alfred." Stephanie supposedly died as Robin but she actually faked her death and went into hiding for a bit, batman apparently was aware of this but never went after her. If she never became Robin she won't have to fake her death and would have just stayed alive. Her starting a war between young heroes and adults just feel out of nowhere and I'm betting they just made it up on the spot because they couldn't think of anything else. Edit 3: Since people keep asking. The comic didn't reveal any negatives for Tim so sorry my fellow Tim fans.
This is so underrated and ought to be focused on. The fact that I had to scroll through bullshit takes like ‘Batman made their lives worse’ and ‘oh so he’s Bad Actually’ to get to this is ridiculous. I know it’s a short but leaving out ‘this is what Batman thinks’ is just misinformation.
Bro facts. This is just throwing out misinformation. Also it's dumb to think their life's would be grate because most of the bat family had some sort of trauma that would've led them down a dark road.
@@migzy4704 Yup Dick Grayson would have lost his parents still, which is why he probably become a spy Jason still was an orphan who’s mom overdosed Tim drake, in some stories, still had his father killed Barbara Gordon would be a hero no matter what, like Stephanie And I’m calling bullshit Damian would EVER be allowed to be a munk
@@tonyc8258 I agree with on some of these. Dick imo would become a Talon. Like you said with Jason's mom, he'd probably grow up to become another crimminal. Tim would probably have the most normal life out of all of them since he has parents. I just don't see Stephanie Brown turning into what the comic said, or starting a fight with JLA. We can all agree Damien would NEVER become a monk! Him being Robin helped his life drastically, he has a big family, pets, a best friend. Saying him not being robin is a good thing and batman leaving him with FREAKING TAILA
Dick gets groomed to join the court of owls, Jason either dies trying to Avenge his mother's murder or becomes a big time criminal, Tim just becomes a tech dude, I haven't read a steph comic, and Damien would be next in line for the league of Assassins
i mean technically without batman Damien Probably wouldn't exist? as presumably bruce would've never met and knocked up Talia al ghul without becoming the batman.
@The Dogman still there life except Dick Grayson would have been amazing and this is where he DID NOT meet them so the robins even tho i absolutely love batman and the batfam but its just awful. Especially in a CANON comic where Bruce impregnated batgurl and Tim was in a relationship with her at the time and understandably he was PISSED and beat the brakes of him of course Bruce did not resist meanwhile Barbara was getting mugged and beating and lead to her getting a miscarriage and even tho Bman is a goat he is kanda flawed but its creepy wrighters fault actually but default Bruce or Batman was a TRUE GOAT.
@The Dogman most of them are 13 fighting crimes in the most violent city in all of DC Comics sure there saving people but it’s no doubt he ruined there lives
That kinda what happened. He tried to become a monk but as time passes he grew more and more frustrated with his boring life that he left and join the League of Assassins more content than ever
Realistically speaking dick Grayson would join the court of owls and Damian would be the new leader for the assassins and everyone else would be either dead or struggling.
Cuz he wasn’t hooked up to the same machine showing Batman these simulations. Oh, btw this isn’t actually a what if story, Batman was trapped in a simulation
@@tsnoob4669In another Timeline he becomes an arms dealer with Black Canary or in Flash point he becomes a priest after joining the cult of Blackfire.
Don't think so the court is a Gothem based group who hates any form of attention so him being a spy for a organisation would basically rule him out for them because a missing spy would draw a lot of attention.
@@shinn631 Dick became insane cause of how he couldn't trust anyone not even himself Stephanie got in a fight with superman about how she keeps reeling the Teen Titans away and loses Jason needed to make more money so he decided to steal cars and sell them but eventually got caught and arrested Damian got bored of the monk life cause he wanted to do more and killed his mobilità brothers and joined the league of assassin's again and is more loyal than ever
He looks like he needs to master all four elements with 3 young teachers who join his team, all while evading the hands of Zuko, Admiral Xhao and Azula. He looks like he commonly destroys cabbages and gets voice acted by a bald lady in a play. He looks like he can become a god at will but only if he abandons love
Other robins: * becomes crazy monk,spy , and hero stuff* Tim Drake: I wanna make a game about a plumber who saves a princess from a big big big big big turtle with a brother who is in green and is overall the better brother
*Meanwhile in another universe* Miles Morales: I wanna make a game about a hedgehog who saves animals from a sad sad sad sad man with a fox who is yellow and is overall hated
Correction: Damian Wayne would become the leader of assassins,Stephane would most likely become a villain, dick Grayson forcibly turned into a talon, Jason would become a thug or maybe even drug lord.
Later on in that same issue, most of these became true. Steph lost the trust of everyone after pushing her team to be independent from the JL and resulted in them fighting Superman and lost. Jason began to steal cars after losing a couple of races, to get more money, but was arrested. Damien became frustrated for not reaching enlightenment, attacked his monk brothers and returned to the League of Assassins. Dick on the other hand became mentally unstable and depressed from the combination of overdosing on Hypnos, which causes mental instability, and for living a life of lies and having no clear rules, which lead him to not trusting his own heart.
Damian as a Monk........... okay 🤣 I'm imagining Jon meeting this version and being both sad/confused/happy/creeped-out seeing any version of Damian THAT happy
Wouldn't the court of owls take dick to be the next talon like they did with one of his ancestors and wouldn't Damian just become the next leader of the league of assassins
Same If Damian Never Meets Bruce Then He Doesn't Leave the League of Assassins Meaning He'd Continue To Be Indoctrinated By Ras and Talia and Dick would Continue To Be in Hayley's Circus Until he gets taken By the Court And Todd is Debatable It Would Ultimately Come Down To If He Continues To be A Street Kid or not the Only ones Id Believe Of These Is Stephanie Brown and Tim Drake
@@nicholasesdale6569 The Titans can’t exist without Grayson so Stephanie’s is super unbelievable, her dad is a villain, it’d make sense she’d become a villain.
For people saying batman made their lives hard. damian joins ras al ghul, nightwing becomes insane, stephanie betrays her team, jason todd starts losing races and starts stealing cars and gets arrested
Batman took in Dick Grayson because he was going to go after the crime boss who killed his parents, Dick was going to get killed. Batman saved his life and took in an orphan, I think that he did good for Grayson. I think for either Jason or Tim it was a similar situation, they were an orphan and trying to avenge their parents all by themselves, they would have gone straight into trouble all on their own and probably be killed if it wasn’t for Batman taking them in. Jason was a little criminal, tried robbing the tires off the Batmobile, Batman taught him morals and a better way of life.
Not really Dick would be a talon for the court. Jason would probably be dead,in prison or a gang. Tim would probably be a video game designer. Stephanie would be on the same path as spoiler. And Damien would be leading or being trained to lead the league of assassins
Peaceful multiverse: Damian becomes a monk and has a nice life Dark multiverse: Bruce becomes old making Damian the new Batman only for Batman to stab him in the heart to do some voodoo magic and become Gotham
Hold up you telling me Damien Wayne who was raised as an assassin by the league of Shadows and had no problem with killing before meeting his father grows up and becomes a monk. Damn don’t what what this dude smoking but he needs to share
Well I mean he was only made to be Batman’s son, since he never met Batman in anyway I’d say alot changes so he might not even be Batman’s son so he wasn’t put through the same training
@@burningalive1674 his mother is still the Daughter of Ras Al Ghul. She’s a skilled assassin and she only drugged Bruce to get him to create the perfect child with her if Batman didn’t exist she’d probably still drug and take advantage of some man she deemed worthy and she’d still raise her child to kill. Remember she sent Damian to Bruce when he was 12 and Damian was already a decent assassin with no qualms about killing anyone he considered a threat. The reason he stopped killing is because of his father so it’s definitely safe to say if Talia never sent him to meet his dad she would’ve kept training him to carry out Assassinations for the League of Shadows
@@markissacs7784 thats the case sure but if she did that im sure damien wouldve killed his new faather and find resolve out of the murder or his father wouldve given him resolve
Richard basically became an American James bond and Damien is The new Avatar, i love it ""The names Grayson, Richard grayson"" ""martini shaken not stirred""
Damien with batman: lemme kill plz Damien without batman: my father, mother and grandfather are all monsters, which made me realise that I must become the avatar for peace ✌️
Nope, actualy Tim didn't need a Batman to became a hero, he use his intelec to discover Batman real identity, steal most of the money from Penguin and use it to atract Bruce so became a hero, diferent from others Tim choose this life, Jason and Dick has kids without parents, and Damian and Bruce are bloodfamily, so without Batman Tim would still choose be a hero
Being of Al Ghul blood, how on earth would Damien not be approached by the League of Shadows, kidnapped, and brain washed? At some point Batman would inevitably get involved.
@@ogiebear8484 Not to mention a lot of this doesn’t make sense taking account their origins and personalities. For instance how the hell does Damian not lead the league since he’s been raised and trained by them by birth?
@@lordescanor1365 exactly, somebody with a brain finally. It contradicts the origins and canon backstories of the characters, seemingly just to appease Batman haters or people who want sunshine and rainbow DC
@@thedarklightskin It’s not that simple considering the brainwashing involved. In real life some Afghan children under the grip of the taliban are taught at a young age to hate America and believe that suicide bombing are heroic, apparently some kids grow up under this mindset. Damian being under the influence of the league at birth would have never had a chance
Bruce once said that Tim was smart enough to one day surpass him as the world's greatest detective. I like to imagine in this world, he made some of the toughest Professor Layton games.
Dc writer 1: are we even gonna pretend we write batman as a good person any more? Dc writer 2: nah lmao, let's make it so he's the cause of every problem in his loved one's lives
Their life here still became crap regardless. Dick became mentally unstable and depressed from the combination of overdosing on Hypnos, which cause mental instability, and living the life of lies and no clear rules that comes with being a spy, leading him to never trust his own heart. Jason eventually was unable to win anymore races, becoming desperate for money, started to steal cars, but was arrested and put to jail. Steph lost everyone's trust after pushing her team to be independent from the JL, resulting in them fighting and losing to Superman. Damien became frustrated for not reaching enlightenment and hurt his monk brothers and returned to the League of Assassins, feeling much more fulfilled.
@@alexrecrem9094 Yeah and the fact that this all happened in a simulation base on the data made by Batman, who thought they would live these type lives if they never met him. A villain used these data to put them in in the simulation to turn on him.
I feel like what would really happen would be Damien leading the league of assassins, Tim either taking over his parents company or killing himself because bro was not doing well, Jason would probably become a criminal or maybe pull himself like out of where he was and become a mechanic although Dick seems pretty accurate I feel like he would either be a spiral agent or he would become Talon edit: Steph would definitely be a hero still but I feel like she would probably end up killing her dad
Whoever posted this video either hates Batman, doesn’t read comics and do his research ever, or just enjoys manipulating people. These are depictions of what BATMAN thinks would happen if he wasn’t in their lives. Also each one of their lives would turn sour and have a bad ending, the point being made in the comic was that Batman helps them and they help him cause everyone falls eventually.
Even from a Batman perspective, this is REALLY off. Without him interfering in their lives, Dick would have just died because he was a 9 year old trying to take down someone in the mob. Jason would have gone the way of the many unfortunate and destitute people in Crime Alley. Damian would never have wanted to nor been allowed to leave the League of Assassins/Shadows. Not to mention he wouldn't have been born. Tim and Stephanie are a lot more open ended. Tim would probably grow up a thoroughly miserable person from an unloved household, and without his night photography hobby, there's not a lot in the way of joy in his life. Stephanie I believe was reasonably old enough at the start and had an incompetent enough villain in Cluemaster that she may have been able to enter crime fighting without Bruce. Batman is justa consistently horrible judge of character lol.
I like they bring up the idea batman holds them back in a way. Batman's treated as a Gary sue these days that can do no wrong. He basically isn't human anymore
well these aren't really realistic since dick would have been in the court of owls Jason would likely be dead since he steals alot when he was little in Gotham Damian would have been the next head of the assassin the only ones I'm not sure of is Tim and Stephanie
Their life here still became crap regardless. Dick became mentally unstable from the combination of overdosing on Hypnos, which cause mental instability, and living the life of lies and no clear rules that comes with being a spy, leading him to never trust his own heart. Jason eventually was unable to win anymore races, becoming desperate for money, started to steal cars, but was arrested and put to jail. Steph lost everyone's trust after pushing her team to be independent from the JL, resulting in them fighting and losing to Superman. Damien became frustrated for not reaching enlightenment and hurt his monk brothers and returned to the League of Assassins, feeling much more fulfilled.
@@timisunder1404Or end up an online vigilante hacker but then get killed by The Penguin because without Batman saving him last minute he'd die in a home invasion.
@@irequestabuff8484 woah woah woah bruce ain't ruin shit he adopted dick and he found out and asked bruce to help him find the man that killed the greysons jason got saved from the streets he would have been a criminal thanks to the old qoman bruce left him with but he adopted him after finding out jasons death was his own fault if he listend to bruce he could have lived then theres tim bruce did his damedest to prevent him from being robin but no he found the cave and became robin after his fathers death steph juat took over after tim cause of her dad and she was dateingor friends with tim damian would have be come the new leader of the league of assassins this comic is bs
Damian, meeting Batman and becoming a "superhero": *Annoying short and cocky prideful brat teenager that believes he is the perfect son* Damian, if not meeting Batman: *His name is Ong, he believes in inner peace, complete freedom and faith. Becomes somewhat of a great child.*
Man I feel really bad for the main universe Jason Todd now because if he never met Batman he'd end up with such a great life but in the Maine University gets tortured almost dying to the joker and then coming back as a vigilante who wants to kill Batman just because Batman was unable to save him at the time
I really hate this. This feels as if wanting to be happy go lucky and heartfelt they just blatantly make Batman look bad. Damian was raised by the ra's al ghoul as the next successor and batman was able to get damian in the correct path. Jason was just a kid on the streets stealing and was going down the path to be a criminal, dick grayson would have also gone down the path of revenge too if it wasn't for batman. This feels like a slap in the face to him
@@Bruno-le4lo I understand that but not everyone would know. People would watch this and the guy saying a future if they never met batman and think Batman the worst
I haven't read it since a long time but if I remember correctly: Dick gets addicted to some kind of drugs that he used to change his appearance and fails his mission/gets fired. Jason stops winning the races so he stops getting money, and in order to save his fondation, he starts to do illegal stuffs (either drugs or stilling, I don't remember), is arrested and go to jail. Damian loses his temper and I think he ends up killing the other monks and goes back to his mother. Steph's team is violently defeated and there's a lot of casualties. She can't handle the responsibility and quit. We don't actually know what whould have happened to Tim because he had been kidnapped and the whole vision thing wzs just a video game that the other had to complete in order to find him. You can read the whole story on TH-cam if you're interested
Nope, their life here still became crap regardless. Dick became mentally unstable and depressed from the combination of overdosing on Hypnos, which cause mental instability, and living the life of lies and no clear rules that comes with being a spy, leading him to never trust his own heart. Jason eventually was unable to win anymore races, becoming desperate for money, started to steal cars, but was arrested and put to jail. Steph lost everyone's trust after pushing her team to be independent from the JL, resulting in them fighting and losing to Superman. Damien became frustrated for not reaching enlightenment and hurt his monk brothers and returned to the League of Assassins, feeling much more fulfilled.
Their life here still became crap regardless. Dick became mentally unstable and depressed from the combination of overdosing on Hypnos, which cause mental instability, and living the life of lies and no clear rules that comes with being a spy, leading him to never trust his own heart. Jason eventually was unable to win anymore races, becoming desperate for money, started to steal cars, but was arrested and put to jail. Steph lost everyone's trust after pushing her team to be independent from the JL, resulting in them fighting and losing to Superman. Damien became frustrated for not reaching enlightenment and hurt his monk brothers and returned to the League of Assassins, feeling much more fulfilled.
Honestly I don’t think these would work. Dick - he would become another Batman. The entire point of Bruce taking him in is to stop him from becoming another tortured soul. Jason - probably die on the streets. Tim - this one I kinda agree on, though he’d probably build the tech rather than design the games themselves Damian - he’d just stay with the league
In the full version they actually used a virtual reality head set to see what would happen but they end horribly so batman lied to them that they will end horribly so they will stay with him
Yeah but thats half the truth. Dick ends up catatonic in a mission. Jason ended up committing crimes after a car crash ruined his carrer. Stephanie's methods blacklisted her in the hero community and disbanded her team. Damian ended up bursting after suppressing all his negative feelings and eneded up in the league of shadows with his grandfather and mother. FYI from the same comic. Also Tim was never mentioned in that comic. The comic ends with all of them realizing that Batman was there for them in their lows so they would never end with their worst versions of themselves.
In a certain universe where one tragedy didn't define their entire life, unlike ours where every possibility has a gigantic butterfly effect for comic plot reasons. Like Owl court, vigilante, mom becoming the joker etc... Truly a messed up universe and glad Batman picked them up
@@alexanderlee6307 I actually think they should do a movie adaptation of that alternate universe were the joker was Martha Wayne and Batman was Thomas Wayne i Personally think it’s far more interesting than the same exhausted plotline we’ve seen 1000 times
funny thing is im pretty sure theres comics that have talked about or shown what would actually have happened to the characters if batman didnt save em and it never actually ends well
Damain looks like he's about to master all four elements while Stephanie looks like she's from another another dimension
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Star vs evil?
@@aneboonchuy3033 Nah, Spiderverse
@@aneboonchuy3033 ain't no fucking way bro ☠️
@@Barnacle_Goat why
Bro became Aang at the beginning. 💀
🤣🤣🤣😂
Fun fact I think that both of them have the exact same voice actor
@@ramadhanseferino1412 cool
@@ramadhanseferino1412 Ngl, Give Damian Aang’s voice but much more emo and edgy, that’d be perfect ngl. You onto something fr…
@@ramadhanseferino1412 nah Aangs voice actor has retired from voice acting
Alright so let me get this straight,Stephanie is a hero,Jason is a nascar driver,Tim is a video game designer,and Damien’s the Last airbender
don't forget James bond
And this is how they ended:
Stephanie gets betrayed.
Jason gets arrested for grand theft auto.
Dick became insane.
Damian returned to the League of Assassins and killed his monk brothers.
Tim becomes rich.
@@johngona5929 looks like only tim would've been happier
@@dorianfinklea3504 Dick Bond frfr 🗿
WAIT PAUSE
@@assbeater Jason would be, Bro's not getting tortured unless he ends up in prison by Joker 💀💀
My man kept out several key details from this comic. This is a simulation a villain put them in. These futures are what Batman thought would happen to them without him. So none of this is really official in any way. And while yes, for a moment they are all happy and successful. Later in the comic, they all fall apart in their own way.
Dick loses himself, with all the lies and lack of clear rules that are common with spy work, he becomes unable to even trust his own heart and sinks deep into depression, mania and what looks like substance abuse. They say it was the hypnosis he was using, but he knows the truth.
Spoiler eventually loses the trust of everyone because she leads the Teen Titans farther and farther away from the Justice League. Superman asks her to reel them back in and because of her mistrust of adults, she starts a fight with him over it. And the Titans lose. Badly.
Damien eventually grows tired of being a monk. He wants more than to "just be". Hes asked to leave the monestary, and he hurts his monk brothers. He then returns to the League of Assassins, more willing to follow them, than ever.
And finally, Jason is still better off, in my opinion. He stops winning races, but because his organization **always** needs money, he resorts to stealing cars in order to fund it. One day he is caught and put in jail for a very long time.
Edit 1/05/23: Tim wasn't included in the simulation. He was simply being held captive by the villain.
This comic is Robins: issue #5
Did spoiler think it was a good idea to fight superman ?
Issue no.? Or the comic's title?
@@shadowentertainment9975 Robins #5
What about Tim Drake?
It feels like whenever Jason not become a red hood, he ended up in jail.
Like in that interactive story animation, where he killed Joker and ended up in jail.....
Damien really said “I must become the avatar.”
I would’ve preferred if THAT was the traditional Damian Wayne. At least he’d be a little less annoying
@@badasscomedy5126 I agree.
Isn’t Damien voiced by Aang in Harley Quinn and other animated media as well lol?
😂😂😂
@@badasscomedy5126 he's still annoying even if he's so kind and happy other Monks couldn't even him Damian is always doing too much
You didn’t have to hit me with that Dick Grayson art right then
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He didn't but I'm glad he did 😩😩😩
Im not gay, BUT....
@@SymmbolZS
I'm not gay but...Dick is Dick
@@SymmbolZS It’s not gay if it’s with Grayson.
It should be specified that these "futures" were idealistic versions of a universe without Batman that their minds made up. Their realistic lives without Batman are a bit rougher than these.
So why didn't he mention that?
Most likely it sounds more interesting if it's somewhat definitive.
@@kwayneboy1524to bait you to watch the short longer and see or write in comment
which really makes you think about how Damian got the most optimistic future 🥺
@@paolav2887 that's what I was thinking. i don't know much, but from what little i know, wasn't Damian at risk of becoming evil?
The comic said this is what "batman thinks" would be if they never became Robins. They didn't see some alternative reality or something, this was just some simulation. They also seem to have skipped all the negatives the comic said would happen if they never became Robin.
Edit: I read the issue so I can show those negatives I said.
Stephanie Brown: I led the Titans, pushing them further and further away from the JLA, Superman asked me to reel them back in. I said adults had never been on my side and... I told superman to go to Hell. There was a fight. We lost. No one would trust me after that.
Jason Todd: I kept racing, but I stopped winning. The clinic needed money, it always needed money. So I took a side job doing what I grew up doing. I stole cars I did what I had to do. Until it put me in jail.
Damien Wayne: I tried to reach enlightenment tried but could not. I grew frustrated, I wanted more than just to be. My teachers told me to leave, I attacked my brothers. I hurt them. And, having nothing else... I returned to my Grandfather, invigorated.
Dick Grayson: And me I lost myself l. Helena said it was the hypnos but I knew It was the lies. The lack of clear rules. The inability to trust my own heart.
As Nightwing says it: We all fell. We aren't just there to catch batman before he falls. He catches us.
Edit 2: Funny thing I realised, Bruce didn't even make Damien robin, that was Dick. Damien became robin during Dick's time as batman. So you can't really put the blame on Damien being robin on Bruce since he was literally dead during that period lol
Also, in the Batman Court of Owls story it's revealed one of Nightwings grandparents was member the court, so if batman never took him in, Nightwing would have been raised an assassin for the Court, not become a spy so this comic straight up just ignores prior nightwing history.
For Damien he was literally raised by international group of terrorists, being Robin gave him a dad and siblings, he also became friends with other kid heroes like Jon Kent Superboy. I don't know how anyone can look at this and be like "Oh yea, being raised by Taila is so much better then Bruce and Alfred."
Stephanie supposedly died as Robin but she actually faked her death and went into hiding for a bit, batman apparently was aware of this but never went after her. If she never became Robin she won't have to fake her death and would have just stayed alive. Her starting a war between young heroes and adults just feel out of nowhere and I'm betting they just made it up on the spot because they couldn't think of anything else.
Edit 3: Since people keep asking. The comic didn't reveal any negatives for Tim so sorry my fellow Tim fans.
This is so underrated and ought to be focused on. The fact that I had to scroll through bullshit takes like ‘Batman made their lives worse’ and ‘oh so he’s Bad Actually’ to get to this is ridiculous. I know it’s a short but leaving out ‘this is what Batman thinks’ is just misinformation.
Thank you!
Bro facts. This is just throwing out misinformation. Also it's dumb to think their life's would be grate because most of the bat family had some sort of trauma that would've led them down a dark road.
@@migzy4704
Yup
Dick Grayson would have lost his parents still, which is why he probably become a spy
Jason still was an orphan who’s mom overdosed
Tim drake, in some stories, still had his father killed
Barbara Gordon would be a hero no matter what, like Stephanie
And I’m calling bullshit Damian would EVER be allowed to be a munk
@@tonyc8258 I agree with on some of these. Dick imo would become a Talon. Like you said with Jason's mom, he'd probably grow up to become another crimminal. Tim would probably have the most normal life out of all of them since he has parents. I just don't see Stephanie Brown turning into what the comic said, or starting a fight with JLA. We can all agree Damien would NEVER become a monk! Him being Robin helped his life drastically, he has a big family, pets, a best friend. Saying him not being robin is a good thing and batman leaving him with FREAKING TAILA
Tim Drake is too pure for Gotham.
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They always do him so dirty and for what? 😭
Dick gets groomed to join the court of owls, Jason either dies trying to Avenge his mother's murder or becomes a big time criminal, Tim just becomes a tech dude, I haven't read a steph comic, and Damien would be next in line for the league of Assassins
In one timeline, yeah. But comics can turn out however, thanks to the writers pencil, so either way's canon.
@@tulin_enjoyer Well in this "timeline" their lives still became crap (depending on pov) from their own choices.
i mean technically without batman Damien Probably wouldn't exist? as presumably bruce would've never met and knocked up Talia al ghul without becoming the batman.
@tsnoob4669 I'm interpreting is Bruce is still batman but the Robins never became Robins and continued with their pre Robin lives
Poor Tim, that’s tragic 😭
So what you saying is that batman made their life ass. Sounds about right.
He tried his best
God damn it 5 days late but we had the same opinion tho.
@The Dogman still there life except Dick Grayson would have been amazing and this is where he DID NOT meet them so the robins even tho i absolutely love batman and the batfam but its just awful. Especially in a CANON comic where Bruce impregnated batgurl and Tim was in a relationship with her at the time and understandably he was PISSED and beat the brakes of him of course Bruce did not resist meanwhile Barbara was getting mugged and beating and lead to her getting a miscarriage and even tho Bman is a goat he is kanda flawed but its creepy wrighters fault actually but default Bruce or Batman was a TRUE GOAT.
@The Dogman most of them are 13 fighting crimes in the most violent city in all of DC Comics sure there saving people but it’s no doubt he ruined there lives
@@thereal_flipflop2110 he literally chose to be robin by tracking them down, I’d hope he’s happy
"Damian would become a monk."
Nah he'd lead the League of Assassins.
Well DC does write glorified fan fiction at this point, is it really surprising that they don’t know what their own characters would actually do?
@Mental_Editz Hii :)
Exactly where’d he get the monk idea from
@@IamG_they actually ripped themselves off in a way. In the flashpoint universe though it was Jason who becomes a monk though
That kinda what happened. He tried to become a monk but as time passes he grew more and more frustrated with his boring life that he left and join the League of Assassins more content than ever
Dick Grayson got me acting up💀
Wtf is this image 💀
@@univular it’s an official variant cover
@@dax_enfinity bruh I could and would find that on an orange and black website
Yeah I was gonna say we are not glossing over that blatant thirst pic
@@dax_enfinityyeah and there is another one with Jason
Realistically speaking dick Grayson would join the court of owls and Damian would be the new leader for the assassins and everyone else would be either dead or struggling.
a timeline where they had no problems so you are correct
Not Tim I think his life would be great
Tim would be fine he was already smart before letting Batman and had great fighting skills
@@burningalive1674 after having some sleep I gotta agree
Realastically speaking none of are real
I love that the others have this super complicated lives that they had to overcome, and then Tim Drake is just like "i just design videogames bro".
Cuz he wasn’t hooked up to the same machine showing Batman these simulations. Oh, btw this isn’t actually a what if story, Batman was trapped in a simulation
bro made sims 4
I'm actually surprised Jason didn't became a mass murderer to avenge his dad
Nah, he eventually unable to win and became desperate for money and decided to steal cars and was arrested.
@@tsnoob4669In another Timeline he becomes an arms dealer with Black Canary or in Flash point he becomes a priest after joining the cult of Blackfire.
@@kwayneboy1524 I think him becoming an arms dealer is from The Silence universe, where he still become Red Hood, right?
@@tsnoob4669 yup
I thought dick Grayson would have been with the court of owls cause he’s part of the courts bloodline
Which universe? That's a joke I don't really care it's just a statement that if a happens be then follows. This is just a joke comic.
Don't think so the court is a Gothem based group who hates any form of attention so him being a spy for a organisation would basically rule him out for them because a missing spy would draw a lot of attention.
If his parents didn’t die he would have became an owl
That's what I thought
Grayson was being groomed to be the next Talon
Jason’s story without Batman seems very much what Jason would do. Adrenaline and keeping his hood heart with his actions.
This guy really skipped all the bad things that end up happening to them later on
What happened
@@shinn631 Dick became insane cause of how he couldn't trust anyone not even himself
Stephanie got in a fight with superman about how she keeps reeling the Teen Titans away and loses
Jason needed to make more money so he decided to steal cars and sell them but eventually got caught and arrested
Damian got bored of the monk life cause he wanted to do more and killed his mobilità brothers and joined the league of assassin's again and is more loyal than ever
@@shinn631 oh and Tim became rich he got the best out of it
@@end0king998that’s my boy
@@end0king998and Tim was held captive somewhere else
Except it's been proven time & time again that if Dick never met Batman, The Court of Owls would've killed his parents & made Dick the next Talon.
Or (before New52) he certainly would kill Tony Zuko and become a murderer.
That depends in what universe your talking about
@@maui3551 talking about the comics universe
@@rocketblooom what earth or continuity or generation he probably means
This is just the one universe where that doesn’t happen
Bruh Damien looking like he needs to stop the fire lord and establish balance once again 💀
He looks like he needs to master all four elements with 3 young teachers who join his team, all while evading the hands of Zuko, Admiral Xhao and Azula. He looks like he commonly destroys cabbages and gets voice acted by a bald lady in a play. He looks like he can become a god at will but only if he abandons love
Plot twist: Tim designed the Arkham games
Other robins: * becomes crazy monk,spy , and hero stuff*
Tim Drake: I wanna make a game about a plumber who saves a princess from a big big big big big turtle with a brother who is in green and is overall the better brother
*Meanwhile in another universe*
Miles Morales: I wanna make a game about a hedgehog who saves animals from a sad sad sad sad man with a fox who is yellow and is overall hated
Tim Drake: the most normal
Reverse Flash: "It was me Barry...I actually did something good for once!"
Correction: Damian Wayne would become the leader of assassins,Stephane would most likely become a villain, dick Grayson forcibly turned into a talon, Jason would become a thug or maybe even drug lord.
Facts
Later on in that same issue, most of these became true.
Steph lost the trust of everyone after pushing her team to be independent from the JL and resulted in them fighting Superman and lost.
Jason began to steal cars after losing a couple of races, to get more money, but was arrested.
Damien became frustrated for not reaching enlightenment, attacked his monk brothers and returned to the League of Assassins.
Dick on the other hand became mentally unstable and depressed from the combination of overdosing on Hypnos, which causes mental instability, and for living a life of lies and having no clear rules, which lead him to not trusting his own heart.
Surprisingly, in Flashpoint Paradox, having never met Batman, Jason became a priest instead.
This is the real answer.
@@panhow That means nothing considering there was already a Batman and Red Hood fused into one, Thomas Wayne, and Bruce was dead.
It’s funny how quickly people ridicule Batman without reading the whole comic, if you did then you would know their lives went pretty shit later on
Damian as a Monk........... okay 🤣
I'm imagining Jon meeting this version and being both sad/confused/happy/creeped-out seeing any version of Damian THAT happy
Wouldn't the court of owls take dick to be the next talon like they did with one of his ancestors and wouldn't Damian just become the next leader of the league of assassins
I came here to say the same thing.
Same If Damian Never Meets Bruce Then He Doesn't Leave the League of Assassins Meaning He'd Continue To Be Indoctrinated By Ras and Talia and Dick would Continue To Be in Hayley's Circus Until he gets taken By the Court And Todd is Debatable It Would Ultimately Come Down To If He Continues To be A Street Kid or not the Only ones Id Believe Of These Is Stephanie Brown and Tim Drake
@@nicholasesdale6569 The Titans can’t exist without Grayson so Stephanie’s is super unbelievable, her dad is a villain, it’d make sense she’d become a villain.
@@Artryom wow what you wrote makes way less sense
@@Artryom that’s not how it works bro
Damian Wayne becomes the Avatar. 💀
I don't think he would have existed without Batman 💀
Bruh Robin became the dude from the avatar: last air bender💀💀💀
There are about five robins
@@PARTYGOER_BACKROOMS The robin and the dude
Damian living his best life:
Ra al ghoul looking for a new body:
*Hey*
Blad Damian Wayne looks cursed
He looks like Aang from The Last Airbender
he's also the last one i would expect becoming a monk out of the robins
Cause he’s bald?
@@mnlyt2942 Yep
Hairless Damien isn’t real, he can’t hurt me
Hairless Damian:
Damien got that cailou ass appearance💀💀💀
When the world needed him the most, he vanished 💀
"Hey boss we forgot about tim"
"Eh fuck it just make him a game designer , thats what all the kids wanan do"
Tim, the gen z icon since 1989
Not Just That Dick Grayson Photo 💀
Bro became the last Airbender 💀
The first one I thought Damien was becoming an air bender or something 😭😭
For people saying batman made their lives hard. damian joins ras al ghul, nightwing becomes insane, stephanie betrays her team, jason todd starts losing races and starts stealing cars and gets arrested
Batman took in Dick Grayson because he was going to go after the crime boss who killed his parents, Dick was going to get killed. Batman saved his life and took in an orphan, I think that he did good for Grayson. I think for either Jason or Tim it was a similar situation, they were an orphan and trying to avenge their parents all by themselves, they would have gone straight into trouble all on their own and probably be killed if it wasn’t for Batman taking them in. Jason was a little criminal, tried robbing the tires off the Batmobile, Batman taught him morals and a better way of life.
Damien thinks he’s in the avatar state 💀
Jason being a nascar driver is so fitting
I always thought Dick would become a member of the Court of Owls
Nice pfp
Batman : im vengeance
Daimen : im happy
Damian about to become the Last Airbender ☠️
Not really
Dick would be a talon for the court.
Jason would probably be dead,in prison or a gang.
Tim would probably be a video game designer.
Stephanie would be on the same path as spoiler.
And Damien would be leading or being trained to lead the league of assassins
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Actually, in flashpoint timeline, Jason dead and than became a priest
Damian became Aang without the arrow. 😂
Bro got so happy he turned into the Avatar
No cap, every role for each character is just so accurate.
Peaceful multiverse: Damian becomes a monk and has a nice life
Dark multiverse: Bruce becomes old making Damian the new Batman only for Batman to stab him in the heart to do some voodoo magic and become Gotham
Later on in the comic Damian leaves the monk monastery to join the League of Assassins, more ready to join and do whatever for it more than ever.
Hold up you telling me Damien Wayne who was raised as an assassin by the league of Shadows and had no problem with killing before meeting his father grows up and becomes a monk. Damn don’t what what this dude smoking but he needs to share
Well I mean he was only made to be Batman’s son, since he never met Batman in anyway I’d say alot changes so he might not even be Batman’s son so he wasn’t put through the same training
He was still born to a clan of assassin's....
Or you saying they wouldn't have this man trained for their plans
@@burningalive1674 his mother is still the Daughter of Ras Al Ghul. She’s a skilled assassin and she only drugged Bruce to get him to create the perfect child with her if Batman didn’t exist she’d probably still drug and take advantage of some man she deemed worthy and she’d still raise her child to kill. Remember she sent Damian to Bruce when he was 12 and Damian was already a decent assassin with no qualms about killing anyone he considered a threat. The reason he stopped killing is because of his father so it’s definitely safe to say if Talia never sent him to meet his dad she would’ve kept training him to carry out Assassinations for the League of Shadows
@@markissacs7784 thats the case sure but if she did that im sure damien wouldve killed his new faather and find resolve out of the murder or his father wouldve given him resolve
@@blastphantomgames6369 his new father or killing his new father couldve led to him having a resolve of his darker ways
Damian became from zuko to aang😆 i'd love to see a bit of these versions
Richard basically became an American James bond and Damien is The new Avatar, i love it
""The names Grayson, Richard grayson""
""martini shaken not stirred""
I thought Dick turns into a vigilante to get revenge on Tony Zucco.
Honestly the idea of a clone finding inner peace, being so peaceful that the other monks can’t stand him, is both beautiful and hilarious.
Damian is a clone? I think you his brother
Damien with batman: lemme kill plz
Damien without batman: my father, mother and grandfather are all monsters, which made me realise that I must become the avatar for peace ✌️
I feel like Tim Drake’s alternate life is kinda understandable😅
Nope, actualy Tim didn't need a Batman to became a hero, he use his intelec to discover Batman real identity, steal most of the money from Penguin and use it to atract Bruce so became a hero, diferent from others Tim choose this life, Jason and Dick has kids without parents, and Damian and Bruce are bloodfamily, so without Batman Tim would still choose be a hero
Being of Al Ghul blood, how on earth would Damien not be approached by the League of Shadows, kidnapped, and brain washed? At some point Batman would inevitably get involved.
Bruce Wayne may have his moments but he's actually one of the best comic book father's to have
I just notice that batman causes alot of colatteral damage
Not really, this is just one universe where the writer chose this. The other universes where most comics take place these aren’t possible.
@@ogiebear8484
Not to mention a lot of this doesn’t make sense taking account their origins and personalities. For instance how the hell does Damian not lead the league since he’s been raised and trained by them by birth?
@@lordescanor1365 just doesn’t want to do it, I don’t think it’s so crazy for him to just choose a different path in life by himself
@@lordescanor1365 exactly, somebody with a brain finally. It contradicts the origins and canon backstories of the characters, seemingly just to appease Batman haters or people who want sunshine and rainbow DC
@@thedarklightskin
It’s not that simple considering the brainwashing involved. In real life some Afghan children under the grip of the taliban are taught at a young age to hate America and believe that suicide bombing are heroic, apparently some kids grow up under this mindset. Damian being under the influence of the league at birth would have never had a chance
Damian looking like he on a journey to master all the 4 elements
Damian looks like he's about to say Goliath yip yip😂
Bruce once said that Tim was smart enough to one day surpass him as the world's greatest detective.
I like to imagine in this world, he made some of the toughest Professor Layton games.
Dc writer 1: are we even gonna pretend we write batman as a good person any more?
Dc writer 2: nah lmao, let's make it so he's the cause of every problem in his loved one's lives
Their life here still became crap regardless.
Dick became mentally unstable and depressed from the combination of overdosing on Hypnos, which cause mental instability, and living the life of lies and no clear rules that comes with being a spy, leading him to never trust his own heart.
Jason eventually was unable to win anymore races, becoming desperate for money, started to steal cars, but was arrested and put to jail.
Steph lost everyone's trust after pushing her team to be independent from the JL, resulting in them fighting and losing to Superman.
Damien became frustrated for not reaching enlightenment and hurt his monk brothers and returned to the League of Assassins, feeling much more fulfilled.
@@tsnoob4669 ah alright, so op just left out all the important details lmao
@@alexrecrem9094 Yeah and the fact that this all happened in a simulation base on the data made by Batman, who thought they would live these type lives if they never met him.
A villain used these data to put them in in the simulation to turn on him.
I feel like what would really happen would be Damien leading the league of assassins, Tim either taking over his parents company or killing himself because bro was not doing well, Jason would probably become a criminal or maybe pull himself like out of where he was and become a mechanic although Dick seems pretty accurate I feel like he would either be a spiral agent or he would become Talon
edit: Steph would definitely be a hero still but I feel like she would probably end up killing her dad
Whoever posted this video either hates Batman, doesn’t read comics and do his research ever, or just enjoys manipulating people. These are depictions of what BATMAN thinks would happen if he wasn’t in their lives. Also each one of their lives would turn sour and have a bad ending, the point being made in the comic was that Batman helps them and they help him cause everyone falls eventually.
Even from a Batman perspective, this is REALLY off. Without him interfering in their lives, Dick would have just died because he was a 9 year old trying to take down someone in the mob. Jason would have gone the way of the many unfortunate and destitute people in Crime Alley. Damian would never have wanted to nor been allowed to leave the League of Assassins/Shadows. Not to mention he wouldn't have been born.
Tim and Stephanie are a lot more open ended. Tim would probably grow up a thoroughly miserable person from an unloved household, and without his night photography hobby, there's not a lot in the way of joy in his life. Stephanie I believe was reasonably old enough at the start and had an incompetent enough villain in Cluemaster that she may have been able to enter crime fighting without Bruce.
Batman is justa consistently horrible judge of character lol.
@@thomaswood8405 totally agree.
Damien out here being a likeable character with the Aang fit
NAH WHAT WAS THAT PHOTO BRO NAH YOU CRAZY!!!😂
I like they bring up the idea batman holds them back in a way. Batman's treated as a Gary sue these days that can do no wrong. He basically isn't human anymore
well these aren't really realistic since dick would have been in the court of owls Jason would likely be dead since he steals alot when he was little in Gotham Damian would have been the next head of the assassin the only ones I'm not sure of is Tim and Stephanie
Their life here still became crap regardless.
Dick became mentally unstable from the combination of overdosing on Hypnos, which cause mental instability, and living the life of lies and no clear rules that comes with being a spy, leading him to never trust his own heart.
Jason eventually was unable to win anymore races, becoming desperate for money, started to steal cars, but was arrested and put to jail.
Steph lost everyone's trust after pushing her team to be independent from the JL, resulting in them fighting and losing to Superman.
Damien became frustrated for not reaching enlightenment and hurt his monk brothers and returned to the League of Assassins, feeling much more fulfilled.
@@Darkflame1423 Tim might also be dead since his original parents were abusive towards him
@@timisunder1404Or end up an online vigilante hacker but then get killed by The Penguin because without Batman saving him last minute he'd die in a home invasion.
That Tim Drake art got me blushing ngl
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Wow, I totally thought it would go a different way but wow, they do just fine without Bruce
Some might argue they do better without him
@@MageMalice aint even an argument they definitely got their lives ruined by bruce
@@irequestabuff8484Yes, that's right. And we'll ignore the other storylines where it's told completely the opposite.
@@irequestabuff8484 Only in this timeline.
@@irequestabuff8484 woah woah woah bruce ain't ruin shit he adopted dick and he found out and asked bruce to help him find the man that killed the greysons jason got saved from the streets he would have been a criminal thanks to the old qoman bruce left him with but he adopted him after finding out jasons death was his own fault if he listend to bruce he could have lived then theres tim bruce did his damedest to prevent him from being robin but no he found the cave and became robin after his fathers death steph juat took over after tim cause of her dad and she was dateingor friends with tim damian would have be come the new leader of the league of assassins this comic is bs
It really sounds like they are better off without knowing Batman, because their lives sound peaceful
Too bad it ain't real since it's a simulation
Damian, meeting Batman and becoming a "superhero":
*Annoying short and cocky prideful brat teenager that believes he is the perfect son*
Damian, if not meeting Batman:
*His name is Ong, he believes in inner peace, complete freedom and faith. Becomes somewhat of a great child.*
Man I feel really bad for the main universe Jason Todd now because if he never met Batman he'd end up with such a great life but in the Maine University gets tortured almost dying to the joker and then coming back as a vigilante who wants to kill Batman just because Batman was unable to save him at the time
I really hate this. This feels as if wanting to be happy go lucky and heartfelt they just blatantly make Batman look bad. Damian was raised by the ra's al ghoul as the next successor and batman was able to get damian in the correct path. Jason was just a kid on the streets stealing and was going down the path to be a criminal, dick grayson would have also gone down the path of revenge too if it wasn't for batman. This feels like a slap in the face to him
because this timeline basically all their problems disappeared
@@Bruno-le4lo I understand that but not everyone would know. People would watch this and the guy saying a future if they never met batman and think Batman the worst
@@boostergold1373 yea I see that that's why I hate this
Imagine a story where the bat family traverses the multiverse and comes across this one, causing family drama
I haven't read it since a long time but if I remember correctly:
Dick gets addicted to some kind of drugs that he used to change his appearance and fails his mission/gets fired.
Jason stops winning the races so he stops getting money, and in order to save his fondation, he starts to do illegal stuffs (either drugs or stilling, I don't remember), is arrested and go to jail.
Damian loses his temper and I think he ends up killing the other monks and goes back to his mother.
Steph's team is violently defeated and there's a lot of casualties. She can't handle the responsibility and quit.
We don't actually know what whould have happened to Tim because he had been kidnapped and the whole vision thing wzs just a video game that the other had to complete in order to find him.
You can read the whole story on TH-cam if you're interested
The one for Damian is so weird. I do not see a world with Damian having a faith and being all positive and happy and good boy over here
If they never met Batman/Bruce, they might live a good life
they would of been dead Bruce saved them it's just that their problems disappeared
Nope, their life here still became crap regardless.
Dick became mentally unstable and depressed from the combination of overdosing on Hypnos, which cause mental instability, and living the life of lies and no clear rules that comes with being a spy, leading him to never trust his own heart.
Jason eventually was unable to win anymore races, becoming desperate for money, started to steal cars, but was arrested and put to jail.
Steph lost everyone's trust after pushing her team to be independent from the JL, resulting in them fighting and losing to Superman.
Damien became frustrated for not reaching enlightenment and hurt his monk brothers and returned to the League of Assassins, feeling much more fulfilled.
You left the ending of all of them showing their lives fall into peace
Turns out that fighting crime as a child is bad for kids
but not saving one in a timeline where they did have problems
@@Bruno-le4lo reasonable
Their life here still became crap regardless.
Dick became mentally unstable and depressed from the combination of overdosing on Hypnos, which cause mental instability, and living the life of lies and no clear rules that comes with being a spy, leading him to never trust his own heart.
Jason eventually was unable to win anymore races, becoming desperate for money, started to steal cars, but was arrested and put to jail.
Steph lost everyone's trust after pushing her team to be independent from the JL, resulting in them fighting and losing to Superman.
Damien became frustrated for not reaching enlightenment and hurt his monk brothers and returned to the League of Assassins, feeling much more fulfilled.
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Wheren't you mfrs suposed to delete the comments ?
Honestly I don’t think these would work.
Dick - he would become another Batman. The entire point of Bruce taking him in is to stop him from becoming another tortured soul.
Jason - probably die on the streets.
Tim - this one I kinda agree on, though he’d probably build the tech rather than design the games themselves
Damian - he’d just stay with the league
Broo, of all the Dick Grayson you got yoi had to show us that😭🥵😢
Who needs to pet a fake dog in a video game when you could pet a dog in real life.
“Oh hey buddy, come here and let me pet you 😊“
In the full version they actually used a virtual reality head set to see what would happen but they end horribly so batman lied to them that they will end horribly so they will stay with him
Tim Drake got my dream job.
Jason Todd and tim have the best alternate life lmao
Yeah but thats half the truth. Dick ends up catatonic in a mission. Jason ended up committing crimes after a car crash ruined his carrer. Stephanie's methods blacklisted her in the hero community and disbanded her team. Damian ended up bursting after suppressing all his negative feelings and eneded up in the league of shadows with his grandfather and mother. FYI from the same comic. Also Tim was never mentioned in that comic. The comic ends with all of them realizing that Batman was there for them in their lows so they would never end with their worst versions of themselves.
What he forgot to mention is they all eventually suffer terrible fates.
What do you know they’re all happier when they never met Bruce Wayne
In this timeline, yeah.
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In a certain universe where one tragedy didn't define their entire life, unlike ours where every possibility has a gigantic butterfly effect for comic plot reasons. Like Owl court, vigilante, mom becoming the joker etc... Truly a messed up universe and glad Batman picked them up
Dick Grayson's life is arguably worse
@@alexanderlee6307 I actually think they should do a movie adaptation of that alternate universe were the joker was Martha Wayne and Batman was Thomas Wayne i Personally think it’s far more interesting than the same exhausted plotline we’ve seen 1000 times
Damian became the last airbender 😂😂
Much better fade for all of them would love to see what bat man would do if he saw what he took from them
I like how even without Batman Steph still becomes a hero it's like she was gonna be a hero regardless if Batman was there or not
Damien - aang
Jason - max Verstappen
Stephanie - spider Gwen
Nightwing - James Bond
This is making it look like they're better off without bats
Damian would take over for his grandpa, Dick would become a Talon.
funny thing is im pretty sure theres comics that have talked about or shown what would actually have happened to the characters if batman didnt save em
and it never actually ends well