Skully AR1 Commentary!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 มี.ค. 2016
- Are you interested in purchasing the Skully AR1 helmet? I pre-ordered the helmet, and this is my commentary on my experience with Skully as a company as well as what to expect from the first augmented display helmet.
I walk you through the process of pre-ordering the helmet, share my personal emails from Skully, what I have come to learn about the features of the AR1, and I give some insight into alternative options to the Skully AR1 such as optional cameras, Bluetooth communication devices, and photochromatic face shields similar to transition lenses found on personal eyewear.
Be sure to LIKE and SUBSCRIBE !!
VIDEO INDEX
0:07 - First heard of the Skully AR1
0:12 - Skully AR1 Features
0:40 - The HUD (Heads Up Display)
1:11 - My Experience with the pre-ordering process
1:57 - Visited a local helmet retailer
3:10 - My opinion of the Skully AR1
3:52 - Definition of a HUD (Heads Up Display), surprising
4:33 - HUD available in Vehicles today
6:14 - Skully's free interest loan
7:11 - DOT, Snell and other certifications
7:44 - Skully AR1 helmet shell integrity
8:30 - Comparable alternatives to the Skully AR1
10:39 - Safety concerns
USEFUL LINKS
(Helmets)
www.skully.com
www.shoei-helmets.com/Road.aspx
www.araiamericas.com/helmets
www.rideicon.com/products/?cat...
www.hjchelmets.com/street/#.Vv...
www.agv.com/agv_us_en/products...
(Cameras)
contour.com/cameras
shop.gopro.com/cameras
www.sony.com/electronics/actio...
virb.garmin.com/en-US/products
(Communication)
cardosystems.com/portfolio-typ...
chatterboxusa.com/collections
(Face Shield) Photchromic
www.store.shoei-helmets.com/cw... - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
i LOVE the way you break down each good & bad part/thing of the Skully helmet in 90% of the reviews I've watched other videos just go on the good things & non of the bad .... i wasn't surprised when you did mention that they still haven't sent you your pre- order yet
sounds like they are still trying to get off the ground with this Tec #smh
i'm from London & i'll defo be subsurbing to your channel for future info on HONEST tec & info on Skully helmets.
+Size Ten Hello SizeTen. Thanks. My goal in the video was to share my personal experience with Skully in purchasing the AR1 helmet. I set out to do so with an objective viewpoint rather than a purely subjective one. I still haven't cancelled my order, so obviously I must be holding on to some faith in Skully.
+Your Mobile Tech
your faith is strong or your a well strong patient guy i give you that i'm sitting bk waiting on them to come thru then i'll make my decision as & when into buying 1 buff respect for the knowledge tho.
Glad you waited, I got ripped off but I feel good knowing I saved others money. I did get an email stating Skully and the AR1 is BACK. Click on the link in my comment or the link in the upper right corner of this video to check it out!
dope video bro!
Thanks, Bro. Here's an update...long overdue...Skully and the AR1 is BACK. Click on the link in my comment or the link in the upper right corner of this video to check it out!
All very reasonable, well made points. Thank you for posting your experience. Though I am not in the market for a Skully ($1,500 is a bit much for me to spend at the moment), I have been looking at this helmet for some time and am interested in it.
You are right, this is a first of its kind helmet and as such, the implementation is probably going to be rough and a little clunky at first. Ten years out, we should see some great, well designed tech in helmets.
For now, Skully is the trail blazer and they are going to have a number of hiccups along the way to production.
The hiccup was so large they folded and stole our money. smh However, Skully and the AR1 is BACK. Click on the link in my comment or the link in the upper right corner of this video to check it out!
very good video
Nice vid and subbed, im a rider and a techy. Currently working on my on HUD. ;)
+NetPwn Thanks. I appreciate it.
Right on! I received an email stating Skully and the AR1 is BACK. Click on the link in my comment or the link in the upper right corner of this video to check it out!
Thank you so much this was a great video, I was looking into possibly purchasing the skully but was really concerned about the safety features and couldn't find really anything on the site about the material it's made from. Also I highly recommend Rf1200 I have bought 2 myself and attached the Sena Bluetooth and I love it, I only cared to look at the skully for the hud but after your info I will stick with the Rf1200 again thank you.
all motorcycle helmets have to be dot approved to be able to hit the market. which means they have to pass safety standard tests. which are all the same for every helmet. With that being said, the AR-1 is more than adequate in the safety department. Now, you wanna bring ECE or SNELL in. I can tell you that they are also test just used in other countries. Why doesn't the AR-1 have these test under it? Because they are highly costly. These test are easy to pay for by big companies like shoei, bell, AGV, etc. Skully, however is a brand new company that doesnt yet have all the revenue that other companies do. and even if it did it needs a higher dollar amount to break even due to the research and development of a new product. especially one with such innovations as a rear view camera and HUD. I think people are over reacting. As for what the salesman said. Im not surprised. Their livelihood comes from selling their products. So of course their not gonna recommend a product they do not carry. Lastly, if safety is your concern, then i can tell you that you are better off with a helmet that is seamless and does not have bulks sticking out as those could get caught into things. or if you land directly on top of them, they can concentrate the impact force into a smaller surface area, decreasing structural efficiency, it prevents the helmet from dissipating the energy across the whole helmet and increases the probability of a crack due to the increase pressure in a single point. sorry for the long rant
Glad I could help. I saved quite a few some $$. Just so you know, Skully and the AR1 is BACK. Click on the link in my comment or the link in the upper right corner of this video to check it out!
I appreciate rants...means you were thinking, not just commenting for the sake of commenting.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on the video. Also, thank you for the FB link. I will definitely check that out. Im not so sure Skully is fraudulent, however, I am displeased with the way they conduct their business interactions with consumers. If I obtain any new information, I'll be sure to get a video up. Be sure to like, subscribe, and share the video. Thanks, again, for watching.
+Your Mobile Tech
i didn't mean that this is pure fraud from beginning
i mean that skully don't share honest information
it's like they say everything good, but they moved and moved the date (that's some king of fraud)
why they always answer quite vague ?
there too much omissions
as more it would be open as more it would cause trust
Thanks for the info on the skully, hope you don't get burned. Your alpinestars jacket @ 7.24 is sick, what model or make is it?
I'm thinking of getting one like it. Thanks, garrison
good video
Thank you. I just posted a new video with a pretty exciting or, at least, promising update on Skully. Skully is BACK!
I considered Skully as well, but suspected this vaporware problem. What I've done instead is run a stock Arai helmet then add the new-ish Sena 10C (very satisfactory, thank you) and put my phone in a RAM mount on the handlebars. Works great! visible GPS, all audio capabilities, no extraordinary cost and I can swap out each part of the gear whenever I want.
That was a smart move. Just so you know, Skully and the AR1 is BACK. Click on the link in my comment or the link in the upper right corner of this video to check it out!
@ Your Mobile Tech - re: your visit to the motorcycle dealership to try on a Shoei telling them you were interested in doing so to check your size for a SKULLY. My comment that it's kinda like going to a Chevy dealership sitting in a Silverado to check if you like pick ups because you're buying an F150 does "hold water". My point wasn't as complicated as you made it out to be. My point to be more clear was simply that it doesn't surprise me to hear a negative comment from what is actually a competitor currently to SKULLY. I don't know the long term marketing & sales plans of SKULLY but for now the AR1s are not being offered at motorcycle dealerships. I don't take seriously negative comments made by sales people or otherwise knocking a competitors product, they're not only biased, it's their job to support the products they offer & not those of competitors whose products they don't sell. I mean it's not complicated, I just wouldn't take comments seriously made by a place where you went to try on that Shoei about the AR1. As for it being more dangerous to look down at your mirrors, IMO without actually using the AR1 yet it can't be hard to understand that if youre looking at the AR1 display which is at eye level vs. looking at mirrors especially ones low and to the side like the ones on my Ninja H2, I'd bet big money the HUD is going to be safer. There's been numerous HUD testing in automobiles and there is a significant safety advantage to having information at eye level vs having to take your eyes completely off the road. You say you can tell "in the blink of an eye" whether there is someone in your motorcycle mirrors. I've been riding 30 years and I've yet to own a bike where I can check my mirrors & blind spot in "the blink of an eye". I check the mirror & if it's clear I look quickly to the side to make sure, that simply cannot happen as quickly as you describe it. It's also not just how quickly you can check your mirrors it's where you're looking when you do. In the time it takes to check your mirrors or blind spot if someone stops short in front of you your eyes are not looking forward they're looking down & to the side. From what I know about the AR1, when I get my helmet I hope that w/ a glance at the HUD it will still mean that if someone stops short or cuts ahead of me it will enable me to react quicker because I will still have a sense of what it happening ahead of me. As for looking down at a phone mounted on the bike, yes that's exactly what I was referring to. On my CVO Harley I have Nav built into the fairing but on my sport bikes I need to glance down at the phone mounted at the triple tree. You say you don't mount phones on your bikes, you just use the audio and never got lost. I am often leading a large pack of riders in my MC, without also having the visual Nav, it makes navigating more frustrating, more dangerous and often impossible not to make frequent mistakes. Often you need to know exactly how close you are coming to certain turns and the audio alone doesn't provide enough feedback. Sometimes you need to recheck the name of the street or the exit # or simply how far it is so you can manage a safe turn/exit for every body riding behind you. Sometimes the audio doesn't chime in exactly when you need it either. I also couldn't imagine having to dig my phone out of my jacket every time I needed to look at the navigation screen. I'm really looking forward to having this information displayed in the AR1 vs. looking down at my phone.....You're asking why it doesn't "include a front facing camera"? Come on, lol! I'm sorry you "feel duped" but it's kinda coming off as being slighted just a bit. Using words like "fraud", etc. I get that you're upset but it kinda reads & feels a bit like you're soft bashing the company because of it. To me it's not a surprise that it's taken longer. I recently sold a manufacturing company that I spent 20 years building, I know what it takes to go from R&D to actually selling a safe & govt approved products to the public. It's a real bear. Did they fumble the ball a bit, yeah sure but as I said previously, I'd rather wait and get mine as perfect as it can be given the challenges after all it's never been done before.. Some companies would have taken the opposite approach and delivered in inferior product that they knew could be improved but caved to pressure to do it quicker. I'm impressed that they didn't go that route..SKULLY admits they could have done a better job w/ managing consumer expectations regarding delivery dates. I hope you do as you say, that when you have a chance to actually use the helmet you will come back and give an unbiased review. I'll have my matte Large in July, I'll let you know if it's everything I hoped for.
Interestingly enough, you NEVER got back to saying how wonderful your helmet is/was!!?!?!! As an update, Skully and the AR1 is BACK. Click on the link in my comment or the link in the upper right corner of this video to check it out!
Awesome video, i kept imagining Morgan Freeman explaining stuff LOL :D As for camera i have seen video samples from all of them, and to me the best one was from the Sony FDR-X1000V, so i'm thinking of buying it to film my motorcycle rides. If you do end up buying that camera please do a full review and upload sample video for all to see. Thank You :)
+Zoki Moto Hi Zoki, thanks for the kudos.
I NEVER received my helmet but the NEW owners of Skully have said I will receive my helmet as well as all the others who preordered it! Supposedly, Skully and the AR1 is BACK. Click on the link in my comment or the link in the upper right corner of this video to check it out!
You definitely have a point there.
What I find more concerning about this synopsis is the actual quality of the helmet...?? Screw the electronics at this point will it protect my head? I've been waiting for the helmet for some time myself, and it is "supposedly", arriving in July now. I wonder, did the sales rep (in cahoots with the rest of the team at the shop) want to shed a bad light on the but quality of the lid to continue to maintain sales of the helmets they have on the shelf. We all know that for rich or for poorer helmets have a shelf-life, but I would assume that it would be more difficult to sell the more expensive, high end helmet as it is but now having to compete with a whole new line of innovation...
I'm in the same boat as you buddy. We actually started a group of Skully preorder peeps because we have been getting pretty pissed
+woodstick22
What is this group called? I want in, been wating since Jan 2015..
+Eirik Kvalheim unofficial skully backers group. Make sure you go to the one that says no haters. the other group has gone off the rails
October 16th, you can register to get your helmet....so the email says.
Dude you're exactly right. Focusing to anything even for a second is so risky. You focus ur eyes to a close distance (prism)and look forward again takes minimum 3seconds. So its also as u said not ergonomy of it is not so good. It can damage ur eyes if u crash..
Finally this product has good idea but still early to use, has to be improved.
Well it's back!
Check chase on two wheels review of the helmet he has one and testing it now I think it shoots it up on the face shield now
That was supposed to be the original design but, as you know, the Weller brothers ran off with the money and most didn't get their helmets. I received an email that Skully and the AR1 is BACK. Click on the link in my comment or the link in the upper right corner of this video to check it out!
thank you for the video I was thinking of getting skully as well but was not sure. there a few helmets coming out. but the one which caught my eye was by a New Zealand guy where he designed a helmet with much more tech but it was for the police. I think there will be tech helmets coming out soon in the future. I also emailed skully to ask if they could incorporate a front action camera in. not to look through but to record when you want. Just like a dash cam.
Hope you never ordered a helmet because more than likely you never got it. Skully and the AR1 is BACK. Click on the link in my comment or the link in the upper right corner of this video to check it out!
well it's out of business now. so tell me, how did some of the other TH-camrs got there helmet but you did not get yours?
Well have you noticed every single youtuber that did a review of the helmet that actually have one all gave the same basic review...."it's the greatest helmet ever"!! My personal opinion and belief is Skull sent those helmets to people they KNEW wouldn't trash it or speak negatively about it. (wink wink)
I got to wear the helmet at INTERMOT two Octobers ago it did not feel like a $200 helmet it was super comfortable and the HUD was not distracting. It feels better than my Arai XD4, though I'm concerned about how well it vents. You can ask all the questions you want to Skully on their facebook page or though their customer service and they will answer it.
+Derek Jonez Did you wear the helmet while standing or while riding?
5:37 that seems to sum this whole thing up.
Not sure why you would expect a motorcycle dealership to give praises to a product they're not selling when you came in to try on a Shoei. It's kinda like going to a Chevy dealer to sit in a Silverado pickup telling them I'm buying a Ford F-150 but just want to check if I like a pick ups seating position... Think it's pretty obvious that it's more dangerous to look down & to the side at mirrors or down at your phone screen than the area where the HUD is displayed. To say nothing about also having the ability to see directly behind you. To the haters that talk about fraud, that SKULLY is stealing people's money I'm guessing when helmets are delivered there won't be many comments from the same folks saying sorry, they were wrong. And to praise a review because it's negative when the reviewer hasn't even tried on nevermind used the product??? To SKULLY - I'm anxious to receive my helmet but have been riding 30 years without this technology so if it's going to take a little longer to get this new tech. right, then I rather wait & get mine right.
+Gregg Stradale
Hi Gregg. Thanks for stopping by. Let's address your comment. I went to a place
that sells new and used motorcycles, ATVs, jet skis, dirt bikes and a huge
variety of gear for each type of rider. I received an email from Skully that
stated the AR1 was very similar in size to the Shoei RF1200 helmet. So my
intentions were to try on a medium and a large helmet to see which fit
properly. When I mentioned why I was there, I was told there was a Skully
representative who brought in the AR1 to see if the store would be interested
in carrying the helmet. Interestingly enough, out of the ones who had tried on
the helmet, synced it to their phones, etc., no one gave it a thumbs up. As for
your analogy, it doesn't hold water in the context which you presented it. Had
Chevy advertised the new Silverado is coming with custom seats that feel
exactly like the Ford F-150s seats and advised it's pre-order customers to go
sit in a Ford truck because Chevy wasn't ready...then, you'd have a point.
Secondly, you are comparing peering though the AR1s HUD, which is really a mini-display,
with looking at your side view mirrors or your PHONE. In your opinion, it is
more dangerous to look down at your mirrors. Well, that is your opinion and you
are entitled to it. However, that doesn't make it accurate, merely subjective.
When I ride, in the blink of an eye, I can tell if there is a vehicle on either
side of me. I do not have to focus on detailed information such as what song is
playing or how many miles until my next turn. Personally, I have never looked
down at my phone while riding, why would I? If you are hinting at people
mounting their phones to the tank or handlebars and using their phones for
navigation, I can see where you are going with that but safety is my 1st
priority so I Bluetooth my phone to the headset in my helmet and while I don't
have a visual, I have yet to get lost.
Now, I think it's great the AR1 incorporates a rear camera. It's one of the features
I was looking forward to. It would have been nice if it worked well in
low-light situations. And since you mention cameras, why not include a front
facing camera? After all, most accidents are from vehicles turning in front of
you.
Yes, there is a lot of buzz about Skully being fraudulent. Some have even reported
it to the FBI. I, for one, have never claimed fraud on the part of Skully. What
I have said, is they need to do a better job with their customer relations.
Your guess is wrong. When I get a Skully AR1 helmet in my hands, I will give an
honest review of the helmet. If the helmet is innovative technology that works
as described, I'll say so. If the AR1 turns out to be a mediocre helmet crammed
with electronics I'll let that be known as well.
With regards to your statement about “praising a review because it’s negative when
the reviewer hasn’t even tried on nevermind used the product”. This video is,
by no means, a “review”, the word “review” is not in the title nor mentioned
during the video. It’s a commentary about MY personaly experience and concerns
with pre-ordering a helmet over a year ago along with information I received at
a well known motorcycle gear store from people who did in fact try it on, sync
it to their phones, etc. Had Skully shipped the helmet when they said they
would, I would have the helmet in hand with which to an objective review of the
helmet, now wouldn’t I?Lastly, you are absolutely right, a lot of us have been riding without this technology
so if it takes a little extra time to get it as close to perfection as
possible, by all means do that. But don’t advertise a helmet as being available
for pre-order when in actuality it is a stealth crowdfunding campaign. Be
upfront with consumers, let them know it’s a crowdfunding campaign and let them
decide whether or not to invest $1500 into the project armed with the
information necessary to make an educated decision. Some knew it was a
crowdfunding effort and that’s fine, but some feel they were duped and not only
is that bad business, it’s dishonest.
@alex I feel exactly the same way. I agree 100%.
I dont understand how you can claim that looking at the heads up display is that much more dangerous than the dozen of other action motorcyclists do like glancing down at a mirror or speed dial or doing shoulder checks. These are all, technically "taking your eyes off the road."
+Jules-Frederic Nerestant Hi Jules. Well for one, the AR1 has a mini-display, not an HUD in the functional sense. As for being more dangerous than the "dozens" of other actions motorcyclists do like glancing down at a mirror or speed dial or doing shoulder checks, when you look over your shoulder or check your mirrors, you are just looking for the presence of a vehicle in order to perform a safe land change, etc., not trying to read detailed information. I agree, technically all of those actions cause a motorcyclist to take his or her eyes off the road. So, as you put it, if there is NO difference in any of those actions, what justifies spending $1500 for the AR1?
This was a very good video coming across! Finally someone in the same situation! Skully is really handelig this whole prosess bad, and need to hear that. They actually are saying (without words) fuck you customers, we dont care, and we will keep manipulating you to doing what we want because we can. I have waited since Q1 2015 and just found out by coincidence that I will get my helmet in August. So Skully just killed a whole season. Unlike you (the guy who made the video) I was aware of the little prism and how the technology worked, but the biggest consern for me now is just what you showed us with the flexing in the buttom area of the helmet, and the professionalk guys thoughts on the helmet...
Skully needs to reedem themself and there is only two things which can do that:
1 - OPEN THE FORUM AND COMMUNICATE TO YOUR CUSTOMERS THERE, you would actually save much time on not needing to answer multiple of the same questions, something you do now by email.
2 - GET PROFESSIONAL AND ACCREDITED MC JOURNALIST/MAGAZINES TO TEST IT COMPARED TO OTHER 1500$ helmets.
And finally, if you are reading this, and are considering preordering the helmet - DONT! You will be dissatisfied in multiple ways you can not imagine right now. BUT if you would like to invest in the (not fully functional) company, and maybe after 2-3 years casually recieve a helmet, go on! You are paying for their salaries, not your helmet!
The only reason I am not canceling is that there is no other solutions out there which can replace my side mirrors (waiting to take those ugly bastards off my Ducati 1299s).
I have sendt multiple emails and talked to multiple people at skully. Recently a lot with Grant whom are answering in this comments. I have serveral times asked for the owners forum, and I always get the "thanks for the feedback, I will tell it to the person ... ". What they actually are doing is saying a lot very nice stuff, and you get satisfied then and there, but they end up DOING NOTHING. Their actions can be described as giving the middle finger and turning their back...
+Grant SKULLY The same pep talk about the safety every time.. You should open the forum, and hire a guy just to manage the forum. Then you dont have to say this so many times..
And to clarify back; August is really REALLY the latest I am going to wait..
You have taken away two riding seasons for me. It's not gonna be a third. Then the glass is full, and I am betting a lot of others feel that way aswell
+Eirik Kvalheim I would have used another helmet in the interim rather than "loose" two riding seasons; there are inexpensive but safe ones out there ;)
I hope you were able to get your money back, if not, Skully and the AR1 is BACK. Click on the link in my comment or the link in the upper right corner of this video to check it out!
Yes, yes, it's been a while. Approximately 18 months and I apologize for that. However I have exciting news for Skully Nation! The SKULLY AR1 IS.....BACK !! The link to my video telling you how to get your helmet after all this time is below. There is also a link in the upper right corner of this video. I apologize for taking so long to get back to all of you but at least I come bearing good news!The Skully AR1 is Back!! th-cam.com/video/Qt-Q0_MmCNk/w-d-xo.html
The best looking helmet is the bmw but it was a way better heads up display but only works with there bikes when it comes out, there is one that that attaches on the outside of the helmet too
You should check out the Sena 10cI have it in my Shoei Rf1200 with the photochromatic face shield
+Tcalz06 Tcalz, I'll definitely check that out. Thanks for the tip.
@woodstick Thanks. I think it's wrong that they accepted preorders without having a conceivable delivery date.
My biggest argument, I am woodstick btw, is I went online and purchased a helmet. I didn't start in as an indego investor. That's one thing to put money in as a startup but I was under the assumption that I was paying for an actual item not finding a startup
+Alex Grajnert and therein lies a serious issue I have with their business practices. Taking more helmet orders before even shipping out the ones pre-paid for by the campaign. This is making this start to look Ponzi-esque. If they are smart and want to foster future business they should cease all ordering until the original orders are shipped. Doing otherwise is causing many to question the legality of these practices if not at the least, the morality of said practices. Apparently they aren't teaching business ethics enough these days.
+Your Mobile Tech I pre-ordered a Skully AR-1 through Indegogo AS A CROWDFUNDER. I was aware that I might have a long wait for the product. The delivery date HAS been pushed back. A few times. BUT...I would prefer that they FIX problems instead of shipping an inferior product. Manufacturing problems do happen, as do sourcing goods from multiple suppliers so that the required components won't completely stop if one single supplier goes belly up. I have tried on a Skully AR-1 when they travelled all the way to Sydney to showcase the product to their purchasers. The response from people who had paid money over a year ago (and were very keen to see a product) was overwhelmingly good. Personally, I loved it. What you're doing is bitching that you want it NOW and can't have it NOW. That's a shame. Be patient. MOST people are aware that we are crowdfunding this product. They are coming. Mine is coming in August, and I've waited longer than you. PLEASE, be patient.
+sopwithpuppy I appreciate your comment. And you bring up a few good points that unequivocally support the viewpoint of my personal experience with PRE-ORDERING the helmet. You stated you pre-ordered YOUR AR1 through indegogo and you were well aware of the fact that you were participating in a CROWDFUNDING effort for Skully. Well, I pre-ordered my helmet DIRECTLY from Skully @ Skully.com. There wasn't any verbage, fine print, or otherwise that by pre-ordering the AR1, I was going to be part of a CROWDFUNDING effort nor that there may possibly be delays during the process of building, testing, and shipping the product. Had that been disclosed to me from the onset, I could have made an informed decision whether or not to pre-order the helmet, wait for the AR1 to become readily available, or to look to another manufacturer for a helmet. I have a business, and I run it in a professional manner. I don't block people who make derogatory comments (which, for me, is a rare occurrence), I don't take down forums so that people feel the need to start facebook pages, websites, etc. to discuss their experience with Skully thus far. Representatives from Skully themselves have admitted they dropped the ball in a variety of ways on many levels. So, with regards to me "bitching" about wanting it now, that is an overstatement. If I were "bitching", I would have cancelled my order and made that part of my video. However, it wasn't a rant. It was an objective viewpoint regarding my personal experience with pre-ordering a helmet from Skully. I didn't make one negative statement about Skully nor the AR1. You are also correct when you state that it is better for Skully to ship a helmet that is well tested and not inferior. The problem with that is, the helmet, like cell phones, laptops, and any other modern day piece of high-tech equipment is prone to bug, glitches, etc. no matter what. Hence the need for OTA updates to the helmet. That's a given with any piece of equipment. However, if you are suggesting a one year delay in the manufacturing process is possibly due to the shell or the components that make up the helmet, that would indicate Skully's inability to produce the product they advertised in the first place. Again, as you said, it is your OPINION (since you have no conceivable way of knowing) that "MOST people are aware that we are crowdfunding this product". So, by your own omission, those who knew what they were getting into really shouldn't be too upset about the delays. But, for those who were uninformed, unaware, and unwilling to be any part of a funding campaign for the AR!, I can assure you they are ALL saying, "I want my helmet and I want it now!"
+Your Mobile Tech I totally agree that ordering any product from a website should indicate that there will be an indeterminate time for delivery. That is indeed sub-standard, and you have a right to "bitch" about it (sorry for that poor choice of words by the way). I hope you get your Skully soon. You'll probably have yours before I get mine (they said in August for me - they have to ship it to Australia), and I hope you're happy with it. And yes, it was just my opinion. You know what they say about opinions right? They are like a$$holes...everyone has one...and they ALL stink. Enjoyed the video anyway, good luck with all your endeavours.
@sweetangelvirginia....thank you. Be sure to like and share the video. Thanks.
Have you checked out LiveMap and Crosshelmet yet?
Hi Walt. I had heard of the Crosshelmet but not LiveMap. So, because of your question, I decided to look into both helmets. Personally, I like LiveMap much more than I do Crosshelmet. LiveMap just seems like it's put together with better engineering and a higher standard of electronics. At least according to the website. I say that for two reasons. One, I don't believe in ANY of these pre-order helmet offers. Skully pretty much ruined that completely with me. I won't pre-order any helmets that incorporate electronics unless offered by Arai, Shoei, AGP, HGV, Icon, etc. Secondly, when I went to the websites for the two helmets I founds spelling errors on LiveMap's and a graphic on Crosshelmet's website that cuts off the wording on both sides. Things like that are subtle hints of the type of company they are. If you can't properly spell or place graphics on your website, what makes you think I'm going to trust them to properly design and construct helmets that may possibly be necessary to save my life one day??? Now, if these helmets are shipped and in people's hands, including Skully, then and only then would I give any of them a second look. As you may know, I am already out $1600, and waiting for the new owners of Skully to "make it right" in the second quarter of this year. As I tell most people, time will tell and I will keep you all posted of any information or updates I receive.
Thanks for your feedback on bothe LiveMap and Crosshelmet. When something is to good to good to be true it usually is. DIscovered a couple more helmets and a pair of riding boots preorder of course. Helmets: Ruroc - Atllas Origin, KIckstarter: PLY: Embedded Smart Technology Helmet and ROAME Zeros: Wireless Blinker/Brake Light Motorcycle Shoes.
The only two things that seemed a consideration was non tech motorcycle bag by NEO & SONS and the Helmet Halo for standing your helmet on.
Two helmets I am looking at in the real world are the NOlan 100-5 and the Shoei Neotec II, do you have any advice on those two? Just getting back into riding after 30 years away. HAve a 2014 Triumph T100SE
Looking and that "prism" is just as, if not less, distracting than look at your mirror in my opinion. Because with a mirror you are moving your whole head looking completely away from the road, with the skully HUD "prism" you can still see the road at least in your peripheral vision. I haven't used one first hand, but in this case I think it's safe to assume, although I may be wrong.
+Lizzardlover988 At least now we know, it's not a prism, but a mini-display. Not quite a HUD, but pretty close. I don't know if it is "less" distracting as opposed to equally as distracting. I have my mirrors set so that when I'm riding, I don't have to shift my head, just glance into them. Just as you may be wrong, I may be wrong, we may all be wrong in our opinions until the units ship and they are in the hands of actual customers.
To me Safety is First, If its not Snell or ECE, I'm not buying it. You should get The Shoei X-14 instead of the RF1200.
+Afrorider Motovlogs Safety is always first. Great point. As for the Shoei X14, I'll check it out.
+Grant SKULLY Thanks for clarifying that! none of the reviews talk about that
Also motonosity review
The information on how the heads up display works was available for you before you made your purchase. They've always said it worked that way. Basically, it works just like google glass. They were very up front about that. That's your bad for forking out 1,500 for a helmet without doing any due diligence about the product.
No they did NOT make it clear from the beginning. In fact, I have the video skully posted on their website showcasing how the HUD works and I have the updated video showing a different functionality, mounting location, and perspective. So maybe just maybe you should get your facts straight, and accurate, before unknowingly claiming I didn't do my homework. I can take you to school on Skully anyday.
Your Mobile Tech You may be right. I didn't look at the very first videos that ever surfaced. I looked at videos posted months later and it sure looked like how things ended up. And speaking of how things ended up, it looks like Skully is over and done now. Intel isn't backing them, the Chinese company looking to buy them is out of the deal and the company founders were both ousted. In the aftermath the company was basically burned to the ground and the AR-1 is done without ever really coming out.
If you really want. I heard a couple of early models are going on Ebay for about $2,000. So, for the low low price of $3,500 you can buy the helmet twice and hope that the software never needs to be updated, ever.
+zero11010 lol all electronics require updates...smh i had a feeling about this a long time ago
"...and things of this nature." LOL Ocy
lol
Hey Billie, Skully and the AR1 is BACK. Click on the link in my comment or the link in the upper right corner of this video to check it out! I was sure NOT to say "things of this nature". lol
Yoy say shifting your eyes slightly may be a risk, but if you are like most people, you do that anyways to check your mirrors to achieve a similar affect. So I don't see the argument.
Hi Keith. And you're exactly right. When you ride you have to look down, either left or right, to check your mirrors. So let's go over a few things. One, Skully has asvertised the helmet to be a heads up display which by technical definition is accurate yet by functionality it isn't. The AR1 comes with a miniature display screen so unlike BMW, Camaro, Corvette, Mercedes, etc. its not a true HUD, it is not transparent. Two, as you stated, traditional riders certainly have to look into their mirrors from time to time, however when you do that you have a large mirror and you're only looking to see if another vehicle is there. With the mini display, you will definitely be looking longer if you are trying to get gps info, musical playlists, or answering an incoming call. All that aside, lets say you don't use all those features and you use the mini display strictly for its 180 degree rear viewpoint to look for vehicles before lane changes...what justifies spending 1500 dollars on a helmet that merely redirects your "shifting" from the bike's side mirrors to the Skully s mini-display? Either way...it's the same. Lastly, I wasnt making an argument, just merely stating facts.
10:45 Dude, do you ever look in a mirror? That requires more eye movement (and for a lot of bikes it requires turning your whole head, too). Do you have mirrors? A lot of riders don't use mirrors at all. Do you turn your WHOLE body to crane your neck around without mirrors? Don't you think that either a mirror or turning your head is worse than looking at the small screen? Don't get me wrong, diverting attention is diverting attention, but you're complaining about an improvement to ALL other solutions for the same scenario. The skully will also display your speed and some other info, I don't know about you, but on a sportbike I have to change my posture and tilt my whole head to check the speed, that's a hell of a lot more movement than glancing my eyeball down where I can still see ahead with peripheral vision.
You're mad about the skully, that's cool. Don't make shit up about it.
+zero11010 yea i was thinking the same.
Although I agree that I was Expecting a true HUD with it on the face shield, really it's no different if it is in fact in a prism (it's supposed to float actually).
People in a corvette with a HUD still have to take their eyes off the road to literally read their speed. The gauge in peripheral helps to avoid that, but this helmet would do the same.
You can't get GPS and 180 degree live feed of your back with anything else. There was one product stuck in a gofundme stage, that I had my eye on.
But I already ordered this, and even if I don't replace my racing helmet with it, I think I'll be quite happy with it regardless. It's a step in the right direction, we should help fund development of their next generation, that's my opinion.
I do respect the viewpoints, and sincerely hope it doesn't feel or ride as cheap as this video made it sound. For that would be a shame.
Also, where's the update video on this? It's been a few months now. I'm curious what the OP ended up doing. Also finding it a bit ironic that the exact model Skully describes to compare sizes is the exact model which OP will be using. Seems odd, considering how many great helmets there are available on the market. Practically biased I'd say. Could be wrong, just sayin'.
lonewolf36s Interesting view points.
The video poster responded to some of my other comments. It doesn't sound like he has the helmet yet. I'm not sure I'm convinced he really put the money down for one. He's awfully hard on the thing for being someone who put down $1,500 on a product sight unseen. Most folks burning that kind of cash are pretty happy to keep the rose tinted glasses on.
The issues he brought up about the HUD are silly. From day one they were very clear that the HUD was going to function like google glass (at least I don't ever remember them talking about displaying all of this information on the visor itself, but maybe I don't know enough about where the product was 3 or 4 years ago).
You're a brave guy to want to use this thing when racing. I'd rather stick with a known quantity when it comes to protecting my skull in extra high risk environments. I'd also rather stick with helmets that aren't going to run up the cost of a wipe out an extra $1,500. I'd trust something like this just fine on the streets with DOT approval.
zero11010 agreed haha. Yea I'll be using just for commute, to help me see the terrible drivers coming up behind me. And GPS, man can't wait to go on a road trip, got 2 weeks of vacation saved up over the last couple years, time to take my ducati to the 3 coasts. And not worry about work finally. Hoping this thing ships before winter though.
I really wish it was a full on HUD on the visor, the one I mentioned that was in a gofundme or w/e it was, kickstarter probably, was actually that. It projected onto the visor, and was something you can fit onto any helmet. Developer API and all, I really hope that one gives birth to a product. They claimed it would be around $600 to own, which is stellar.
Oh here it is:
www.ridenuviz.com/#intro
Nuviz. Yea that one man, gotta keep an eye on it. It might go big.
Contrary to what you said, I havent made up anything about the Skully AR1. If you paid attention to the video, I clear state the entire video is based upon my PERSONAL experience with ordering the helmet and my opinion on its design from what I have been told by Skully until I actually receive mine. So you tell me which parts were made up! Go ahead....don't worry, I'll wait. Just like Ive been waiting for this helmet.
I don't understand why they didn't use a projector. I mean you just need a slight milky film over the inside of the visor, and they already have allocated room for it inside the helmet. The prism idea will seem to float in the peripheral vision, but still. I would've used a projector hands down
here is a pre product review of the scully helmet by chase on 2 wheels
th-cam.com/video/ig2bd7jxq5k/w-d-xo.html
+sytfuCeez That dude wears Icon Helmets, knows nothing about quality! I Like his vlogs tho
+Afrorider Motovlogs My first helmet was an icon, looked great but was nothing compared to shoei, aria, etc.
Glancing at the HUD is as unsafe as glancing at one of your mirrors; in fact one glace gives you the 180 so you don't need to glance at both mirrors making the HUD more safe. Obviously an R&D background regarding innovative product development would help understand some of the delivery problems and the costing associated with a new frontier product development. If you want the $200 helmet and load it up with 4-5 lbs of external devices to mimic the AR1 then do so. Trash the new product AFTER you've used and tested it or at least read some reviews of those who have...just sayin' ;)
+RoadKing Sperry I agree with you Sperry, "glancing at one of your mirrors is as unsafe as glancing at the HUD" so, again, what justifies investing $1500 dollars on a helmet that does very little (from what can be seen) to change the way we ride? Everyone knows the wider the angle, the longer it takes the brain to process images, so a field view of 180 will certainly take your eyes of the road longer. It's just something to think about. Again, I agree, an Research and Development background regarding innovative product development would help understand the delay problems, however, most people who have pre-ordered the helmet as well as future purchasers are undoubtedly equally as unfamiliar with R&D. I know 1000s of bikers, I ride everyday, with clubs, solo, etc. and I don't know anyone who has a $200 helmet with 4-5 pounds of electronics. I think both or those statements are exaggerated. Any decent helmet would run about $400, add a go pro, chatterbox, and chroma shield added to a helmet is less than 2 pounds. 16 ounces for the chatterbox and 12.4 for the go pro...the shield's weight gain or loss is negligible due to it being manufactured from the same material. If you paid attention to the commentary, I didn't "trash" the AR1. If I felt that way, I would have cancelled my order by now. What I did make clear is that I dislike the way Skully handles it's customer relations. I'd love to do a review "AFTER" I receive the helmet, the problem is I haven't received it in over a year. I'm 100% honest in what I say. I can't be influenced by Skully, subscribers, or anyone else for that matter. They have my $1500, send me a pre-production helmet and I'll do an honest and accurate, review of the helmet. As you have suggested, I have already seen other "reviews" of the AR1 and I suspect that Skully has hand selected those who they know would give a positive review versus someone who just wants to set the record straight. Also, just sayin...
+Your Mobile Tech
To be fair, I've never touched one, let alone worn one; I've
only listened to the beta-testers comments, scoped the Skully website and viewed your video clip. Unless the beta testers were bought out by the company to put out positive comments, they seem to find that it adds a new dimension to riding. All claim not to be associated with the company as do you. Yours is the only one I've found leaning negative toward the helmet [trash was probably overkill :) ] The mirror comment was not intended to justify the cost - only to point out the similarity between the HUD & mirror. I disagree that a 180 view in the HUD will take any more time; you're looking for approaching vehicles, not sightseeing, and it only takes a glance with peripheral rather than a head turn to each mirror. The cost is rather intimidating and I probably wouldn't pre-order unless I was in the business of writing reviews and could write it off as a cost of doing business. Adding 4-5 lbs was an exaggeration, as I'm sure the statement to "KNOW" 1000's of bikers was a bit much:) I look forward to your review after you receive it to see what your thoughts are after using it and if it conforms to your current
impression! ;)
I wasn't trashing the product as I never received the one I paid for. The video wasn't about trashing the helmet, it was about my experience in ordering it and never getting it as well as the changes Skully made to the helmet that were different from how they originally introduced it.
When they delayed it past May…I demanded my $ back.. I knew … KNEW….it would never happen after 2 delays
You were right! But Skully and the AR1 is BACK. Click on the link in my comment or the link in the upper right corner of this video to check it out!
if the visor weights 3lbs, how much does the whole helmet weights? my Shoei RF1200 is like 3lbs. Why would you pay that much money for a helmet that you do not know anything about. I am a CISSP who rides motorcycles and I wouldn't spend that much cash on something that I couldn't actually touch first
+Ringo Flynt The skully website lists the helmet (not visor) weight at about 3.54 pounds (from memory). This puts it very much in line with a lot of other helmets (like the RF1200). Yeah, there are several race helmets that are lighter. How many of those race helmets have speakers and batteries and bluetooth set ups? Oh, right. None of them do. So, yeah, it's pretty natural to expect the thing to weigh a little less with cameras and all that other jazz.
point taken
***** I do totally agree with being apprehensive about spending that much on a product you don't know much about yet. Especially a helmet where the shape can be so critical.
The best safety piece in your bike is the old rear mirror .period.
hey brother did you hear about the company shut down! I actually talked to the v.p and it was confirmed. We all got screwed out of our $ .
we need to start a class action lawsuit asap!!@!
Hey brother.....Skully is Back and while you might not get a refund, you can get the AR1 they owe you. Skully and the AR1 is BACK. Click on the link in my comment or the link in the upper right corner of this video to check it out!
Id wait another year to see what advancements they make on this product, but as of now, i don't think this helmet is worth $1,500. Few you tubers have made statements that the helmet feels cheap and it might indeed be a cheap helmet with tech on it!
+Vladimator I thought about that, but being that I'm into technology, I just had to have it. Once I get my hands on one I'll post an honest review of the helmet and all it's features.
Your Mobile Tech Makes total sense! I'm the same way towards something i really want. Keep me posted and much luck with your channel. I enjoy your videos.
There's an update on the Skully AR1, Skully and the AR1 is BACK. Click on the link in my comment or the link in the upper right corner of this video to check it out!
Well, I guess you could use it for a door stop, hope you get your money back.
I never got my money back, however....Skully and the AR1 is BACK. Click on the link in my comment or the link in the upper right corner of this video to check it out!
I love the idea of that helmet however, it has a long way to go. Personally I think it's foolish to pay a company $1,500 for a product you'll receive a year later. Skully made some nice bank profits with everyone money that entire year.
+CLUTCH1st VLOGS We are all hoping this is not the case...
You were right! They ran off with our money. However, Skully and the AR1 is BACK. Click on the link in my comment or the link in the upper right corner of this video to check it out!
This review isn't even a review. Get the helmet then do your review.
+brettcorrea77 Good afternoon. The video was never represented to be a review which is why the word "review" is not in the title, nor is the word "review" mentioned in the video. The title says "commentary", which is EXACTLY what it is. I will be doing a full review as soon as Skully ships the helmet I pre-ordered from them a year ago. But thanks for your input.
some people says this is fake company you paid your money to them and after that you get nothing and that means they stole your God damn money.. I hope am wrong about this because am really want to buy this helmet but a fraid am get fucked
Hamozi Harbi bro I got scammed by this terrible company
torerro majors
oh am sorry man
And that's why I never pre-order stuff.
+Steve Mathot I've pre-ordered a multitude of items before...but this wasn't a pre-order, this was crowdfunding disguised as pre-ordering.
I had to know why its not Snell approved
Dear Brian,
Snell is a voluntary standard. The manufacturers choose to send us their helmets to meet our standard. Some manufacturers even have some of their product line Snell certified but not all.
Best Regards,
Bonnie Adams
Office Manager
+Brian Keith Interesting...
+Grant SKULLY I didn't email skully I sent the email out to snell
+Grant SKULLY so in a nut shell Snell is a certification that is needed to race at a track and isint needed for the everyday helmet?
+Brian Keith He meant that if you don't have an ECE certification and still want to ride on an ECE racetrack a Snell certification will suffice. Snell is voluntary and afaik DOT has a more stringent impact resistance requirement. What Grant meant was that if you have ECE/DOT joint standard it one of the most stringent standards out there and is better than having Snell requirements. Also menufacturers have to pay extra to Snell and it makes sense for a new company to try save cash when that additional expenditure adds no real value to their product, since they already have joint DOT/ECE standard.
Look,we all have made similar blunders when we don't fully research something. Take it as a lesson learned. You will never get that money back. It's already gone.
Actually, they are giving people refunds, I just havent cancelled my order.
Skully and the AR1 is BACK. Click on the link in my comment or the link in the upper right corner of this video to check it out!
You don't know of ANYTHING that you pay for up front without getting the thing? Teslas were doing that. Lots of electronic devices do that. Have you heard of Kickstarter? You just described the business model for EVERYTHING sold there.
Um, your point is moot. if you pre-order the Tesla or any car, there is a delivery date that is kept. i preorder the new galaxy note every year, COD every november and it arrives on time. If you laid attention to the video, I did mention cars can be preordered and theres a wait time...however over a year in delays is excessive! Dont you think?
Your Mobile Tech The point isn't moot. The point is that there are other products that require full payment without any exchange of product (you did see that I spoke about more than just Tesla, right?). You yourself admit that you get a Galaxy Note on a regular basis. However, ALL cars do not come out on time. For example, Tesla is in a lot of trouble with the Tesla Model X being delayed. They ran into similar troubles with their first car, too. I imagine plenty of other cars are like this.
So, you said at about 5:35 that you don't know of any other thing on the planet with that business model, and in this comment you contradict that statement.
To your question at the end, of course I think it's lame that the company didn't put out a product on time. That being said, it's a combination of safety equipment and technology. I'd want them to take their time with that. Obviously they've got the technology part down, I would be glad that they're taking their time and doing the safety portion correctly, even though I was disappointed that it was taking them longer than they expected.
+zero11010 It is still moot. as for the contradiction, there isnt any. I have examples of circumstances where you preorder something and it may take a while to get it. You mention Tesla, Tesla requires a deposit with the remaining balance due upon delivery. The galaxy note phones and COD games require a $5 deposit to hold them. again, with the balance due upon delivery. A lot of people have FULLY paid for this helmet and received setbacks and excuses in exchange for their hard earned money. Yes, we all want the helmet to be structurally sound and electronics tuned on. Thats a given. So they shouldn't have offered preorders until they had already mass produced the helmets and were close to release not a year and a half prior to even coming close to being ready.
Your Mobile Tech I'm not sure where the issue is. Either you're not understanding how the word moot works, or you're not understanding my point. I'm assuming it's the latter, because your English seems fine.
My point is that there are plenty of things in every day life that require you to pay up front and get nothing until a later date. In your video you said that you knew of nothing other than hyper cars that did this. As a single example I pointed at kickstarter (I'm assuming you've heard of kickstarter and other crowd funded places where products can be purchased).
Moot means it's a non issue or something irrelevant to begin with.
I've absolutely shown that paying up front for something you get at a later date is something you've encountered and that your original claims were hyperbolic.
You may not care about the point, but that doesn't make it a non issue.
Why are you whining about giving them money without getting the product at the same time? Did you not know that's what you were agreeing to when you gave them money in exchange for a promise of product in the future? Complain that they're late. That's legit. The rest of this is nonsense.
Sounds like one, big whinefest about a product he hasn't received.
Just an fyi the transitions lens ur talking about buying is $200 and the review i read said specifically it didnt change quickly enough to be of good use in tunnels...not a bad vid tho, thanks for posting, im sorry skully is probably full of shit but i hope theyre not... they need to make the production model with a tru hud and quit wastin everyone's time
Ive heard different reports about the shoei photochromic shield so Ill do a review on the shield itself very soon. The cost is 150 plus tax. Still a viable option when your budget is $1500
+Your Mobile Tech cant wait to see it... Ill subscribe ... Also if u want a great well built helmet with very little wind noise and a real solid feel it doesnt get any better than schuberth.... Shoei isnt on the same level, not even close... So Check them out if you havnt 🙌🏻✌🏻️
+Your Mobile Tech Point well taken, there are plenty of high end high quality helmets out there, I was just naming a few. Thanks for subscribing!
+Jordan Simon I have seen a video from Skully with a reviewer taking his helmet from inside his house out to the front yard, and waiting for the visor to darken,. It does seem to take some time. Unless it is a long tunnel, it might struggle with the transition. I almost always ride with the visor up (unless doing highway speed (over 100kph) for a long period of time or unless it is raining, so I might just stick with the Raybans underneath. We will see.
+sopwithpuppy i just bought the shoei cwr1 yesterday. i should have a video up this weekend
Too much money, their will be more choices very soon they have drug their feet on this helmet for to long! Be patient!
I was so patient, I was ripped off for $1500, however, Skully and the AR1 is BACK. Click on the link in my comment or the link in the upper right corner of this video to check it out!
takes longer to look at a mirror or turn around... -.-
um, no it doesnt. But then again a lot of people purchasing this helmet dont really ride. I have a lot of friends who dont have mirrors at all. lol Not only that, most motorcycle accidents are from.cars cutting in front of you not rear ending you anyway.
+Your Mobile Tech well i ride. in fact, my bike is my only vehicle and my daily commute. I know how long it takes to look at a mirror and to turn my head back. Not to mention that even if you are taking your focal point of view out of the road to view the display, you still have your peripheral view on the road, as opposed to when you look back. I agree that there might be more trouble ahead of you than behind. but what happens when you need to swerve into a different lane because you dont have enough distance to brake? do you turn back to see of the other lane is clear? do you blindly swerve hoping no car is there? (and that if there is one that person is paying attention and not on the phone) or would you rather glance down at a prism while you can still see the car in front of you? as for the prism. skully was clear about that from day one. as for safety, its dot approved which means its more than adequate to protect you
+Aggie On2Wheels I put nearly 20k on my bike in less than 6 months. Rides from LA to Vegas, LA to Ridgcrest, LA to Fresno. Ive been 182 mph on my bike. Ive been riding a long time, to boot. With that being said, lets address your comment. When you glance at your mirror, you are merely checking to see if a car is there. Now when you look into that prism, there is imformation to read, speed, gps directions, caller ID, etc which ALL take longer to process. The video skully originally released is different than the video now available on the website. The first video made it seem like the visor would display the infor, now its looking through a prism. People act like I am against skully. Im not. I still havent cancelled my order...yet. But, like I said in the video, I made a preorder for a helmet with a release date. Its been a year now. Skully shouldnt have allowed preorders until the helmets were in production, not use preorder money to fund the development....at least without making that clear from the very beginning.
+Your Mobile Tech okey. now to address that. how is looking at your speedo any different? its further down. further away from your field of vision. same with an outside gps. also the display does not hold all that at the same time. it's not like you have to try and make out speed from a bunch of things going on. You select the information you want to display at a certain time. if you have the rearview on, then all you do is scan for vehicles as you in a mirror. In reality whats happening here is that information that you acquire regardless of having the skully or not are now brought closer to your field of vision. i understand your point. Its not iron man's "in your visor display" but its a start. its a starting company. there is a lot that goes into this, especially with the amount of technological development that had to be put into this helmet. I understand that its frustrating not to get your product right away. I'm an impatient person myself. and i would totally agree if a large company such as shoei or bell did this. but Skully does not have the same kind of assets they do.
im not saying you're against skully. what im saying is that youre being overly harsh, given that its a start up company coming up with such an stellar device. if it were easy to develop something like this, one of the big helmet companies would have done it already. why didnt they? because its risky. i think you should consider how hard it is to start a company now a days where oligopolies and monopolies rule business. as for the first video, it was a concept idea. there was no sign of actual design and if you kept with them through the time they were clear im every aspect of the helmet. only reason i didnt order myself is cause i dont have 1500 bucks to shell out. if i did, id buy it
+Aggie On2Wheels Exactly, this is an electronics company entering into the field of helmets. Yes, it takes a lot to start up a company. I didn't sign up to fund that effort. I paid for a product, thats it.
As for the technology, my shoei rf1100 has gps, bluetooth, rider to rider communication, am/fm with aux input, a visor that transitions in dark and light scenes, and a forward facing camera to catch those vehicles that jump in front if me, or the cop who harrases bikers for no reason. the footage is even backed up to a cloud. So my point is, what does 1500 really get you? AND if something goes wrong...say, the rear view camera, you are without that helmet until its repaired whereas my rf1100 I dismount the camera or bluetooth to be relaired and keep on riding with my helmet.
The debate over the technology is endless but what cant be denied is how poorly they have handled their customer relations. Skully has done things that appear to make them "shady" and now they are doing damage control which has been hindered by delivery push-back dates.
I can't wait to get my helmet so I can do a thorough honest review. I can't be paid to make a good or bad review I just tell it from my perspective and people either agree with it or not but at least it's 100% accurate from my point of view.
right now I am going to get the helmet do review and then probably sell it to get my money back.
So stay tuned.
so basically you dont approve or endorse this helmet. currently this helmet is not worth the money....got you thanks...
The company has folded. There is no more Skully.
Is there any info on a class-action lawsuit? I've read this but don't think it is for the public. Just the individual who filed www.autoblog.com/2016/08/10/skully-lawsuit-marcus-mitch-willerbrother/ Also, Fusar and Ruroc have offered discounts off their product. I've contacted Fusar and got $1,499 credit with a 25% discount towards their products. Let me know if you have any more news. Thanks!
I believe the class action lawsuit pretty much fizzled out. I never heard much about it other than their book keeper suing them for overtime, etc. However, Skully and the AR1 is BACK. Click on the link in my comment or the link in the upper right corner of this video to check it out!