Just getting back to the hobby, it's cool they dropped the yellow borders in favor of the platinum one to make it look modern and on par with Japanese cards. The promo card for each ETB makes it a must-have for any collection!
Depending on the value of the promo card, you’re probably getting a better deal on etb’s now even with the $10 increase, taking into consideration that the packs are increased by 50 cents each.
The six-in-one packs are $26; that puts 12 at $52, which is a good value for cards. No extras, but if you’re solely buying for cards, that’s best per-$ value at present. The extras….eh. May not be worth the $!
Your opinion is valid regarding the price/value but increases in price were inevitable and they’re doing a nice job of compensating for it. They could’ve increased price and given us nothing extra
Its not even out a week and the prices dropped insane. Keep it sealed and buy the cards you need . Opening scarlet and violet Will often Will cost you money then make some
For the most part you're probably right. But there also large movements of people who don't like the grey borders while others don't like how the standard ex cards look like the fakes out there in the past ten years. Some people don't like how the holos and reverses are just bulk now while others don't like that the price went up. Based on all the convos I've seen and been a part of it looks like a 70/30 split with 30% not liking the new sets.
I agree. I honestly love this set, I love the artworks, the grey borders and it just has crazy pull rates. This set got me more into Pokémon after kinda awhile of a hiatus.
Good god..it's such a beautiful aesthetic all around-the-clock with this set. The artwork, the illustrations of the box and the mood it creates, it's charming.
haven't stopped by recently. been struggling with mental health and kind of lost my spark and interest in the hobby. hoping to find it again with the help of your videos. love you king
I try to buy one of each Pokemon Center ETBs for display. Maybe there'll be long term growth, but if there isn't I can't complain because the I find the boxes beautiful. Thanks for the content Jake, I appreciate your channel very much 😁😁
Same, I have quite a few of the Pokémon center etbs, I’m so glad I still have 1 of each of the evolving skies Pokémon center etbs, probably my best turnaround right there.
We have to take into account the unfortunate (for us consumers) price increase of Pokemon TCG though. I'm from the UK so my examples might be a bit off, but will still use $: $4*8 packs = $32 $4.50*9 packs = $40.50 Previous RRP (MSRP) rated the remaining contents of the ETB at $8 without a promo. The ScVi onward ones rate it at $9.50 with a promo. So, I think the overall comparison is largely similar, if not slightly better because I think those promos are worth more than $2 to most collectors. Just my opinion! Obviously, no one is happy about having to pay more, but it's understandable.
I have to say they also ramped up the packs with a Holo in every pack and 2 reverses. I would much rather have an extra pack a promo and more shine lol than having say an evolving skies etb where I didn’t pull anything.
Slightly off topic. What is a better long term hold? 4 Crown Zenith ETB’s for $49.99 each, or a case of 3 pack blisters (12 blisters 36 packs total) for $189.95?
I don t understand how for u the 10 dollar increase seems too much: if all the booster increase by 50 cents now 9 packs cost u 49.5 dollars and plus have a promo inside. So the value remain the same as before or even increase. The etb never had the same value of a box but now at least have 1 more esclusive thing.
To be fair, with the .50 cent price increase per pack with just 8 that would make the ETB worth $44. Plus add the new pack and that puts it at about $48-49. I’m not happy about the increase still. Even with the increased pull rates
opened a booster box got 1 gold fighting energy, plenty of crappy iron treads and oinkologne cards and only really one nice card the Gardevoir Ex.. small sample size obviously.. I had plenty of reverse holos and holos that seem just meh.. average set unless you get lucky with the gallery/secret rares etc. The commons look so much better though with the silver border and art style I will give them that. It's a decent set but I'm excited to see better big pulls in the future
I take my chances with the hanger boosters everytime.....I always pull something good. So far the Umbreon VMAX alt art and the Charizard V alt art, both from random hanger packs!!!
Man...that Moonbreon is literally the last Eeveeloution Vmax I need and my collection would be complete! Yet, it's getting harder to find Evolving Skies single packs, at least in my area! Probably just gonna have to save up and buy it outright.
What do the promos on the secondary market typically go for? I'm thinking of picking up the Paldea Evolved box for the pikachu card with the S+V starters on it.
I opened mine yesterday and i pulled the Arcanine ex (ultra rare?), professor's research sada ( ultra rare?) And kirlia ( illustration rare?). So yeah , i was happy with that result because i've opened etb' s with not a single pull. Btw... if i made some mistakes with he names or rarity, i'm sorry but i'm not an expert with those things😅.
Walmart selling etb for $55, bundle for $28, 3 pack blister for $15+ and sleeved for $4.49 before tax. With tax it is just too much, not sure about Target prices tho. One of my lcs actually sell for less than retail, $45 for etb, $22 for bundle and around $3.66 for a pack, guess I'll stick to lcs than retail store.
You dont take into account the price increase of all pokemon product 50 cent per pack so a etb old style would cost 4$ more so is a promo and a pack worth 6$ i think it will depend on the promo
it's understandable if you consider inflation though But i agree! $10 is too much. I would have preferred if the ETB stayed exactly the same but the price was $45!
Thanks for the informative videos as always, Jake! I wanted to get these ETB's, but I think I will just buy the two promo cards and then maybe I will get a booster bundle box for under MSRP.
i got this week a silver tempest etb and i only pulled one vulpix v, yesterday i bought a scarlet etb and i got the full art arcanine twice and a golden fighting energy
Hi!! I can answer that!! I'm Portuguese and the regular ETBs go for around 45 Euros with tax wich is around 49 USD, roughly the same price as others before... For example, Crown Zenith was 50 Euros but had 10 booster packs... The Pokémon Center ETBs are another story, they are around 120 Euros, about 130 USD... I would love to buy 1 of each to keep sealed but it's completely out of question at that price...
I honestly can't see the value with it being $20 more in Australia. I only got into the TCG a few months ago but maybe I'll dip out when I can no longer buy Sword and Shield packs.
Dude, I’m so mad. I just took on a manager position at work and I figured I have more money to play with for Pokémon cards but cost of living went up and msrp for cards went up so it’s basically the same still 😒
I wish the sleeves were clear & not the cloudy ones. I can’t use them for playing or storing because they make holo cards look ugly. Or maybe get rid of sleeves altogether and put 12 packs instead. Etb’s right now are basically 9 packs & a bunch of useless junk. Pretty bad deal imo
Meijers has a deal "buy one at full price. Get the next for 50% off on all trading cards." Gonna go that route if I buy these. The sale goes until April first.
Wow, this is disappointing. For $50 I think they should have 10 packs. Even at $4.50/pack now, that’s still an extra $5 to cover the promo and “extra goodies” inside. $50 for 9 packs feels really steep at over $5/pack. That Koraidon promo is stunning though
The increase from $40 to $50 is just keeping in line with inflation. ETBs were $40 for a long time. Year over year inflation has added up in that time. It just feels like a sudden price increase because they did the price jump all at once rather than incrementally over the years. Put another way - $50 today probably feels no different than what $40 felt like when ETBs were first priced at $40 however many years ago.
@@matth6707 same shit everyone said about evolutions because it was a reprint, now I hold 10 booster boxes and they are selling for 1200. Lol. Been doing this since 2004. Pokémon cards paid off my house, and I’m currently in the works of buying an investment property to rent out. Here’s a tip for you, always buy first edition in bulk. No matter what you hear, no matter if you think you know more than anyone else. I’ll make sure to come back to this message a few years from now just to clown on you some more.
@@ard-whispers5110I think that’s what he means. However, this clearly does not apply to that dogshit called sword and shield, I absolutely do not see how that base set can hold any value until maybe like 15 years down the road.
You are really paying $40 for the 9 packs so that is $4.45 a pack. You're paying $5 for the sleeves than the other $5 covers the rest of the stuff inside including the promo and the box itself which makes for a great storage box. 50 dollars seems rather reasonable to me.
Computer generated art is also art. Saying that you prefer ACTUAL art just because is not physic techniques is an ignorant statement. Computer generated art is different from AI art.
Anything Pokemon TCG is better to keep sealed. In a few years this ETB will be worth $100 sealed. Anything you can double your money on in 2-3 years. Is a worth it investment.
Just getting back to the hobby, it's cool they dropped the yellow borders in favor of the platinum one to make it look modern and on par with Japanese cards.
The promo card for each ETB makes it a must-have for any collection!
Depending on the value of the promo card, you’re probably getting a better deal on etb’s now even with the $10 increase, taking into consideration that the packs are increased by 50 cents each.
those promos will be 0.5-1$ card in a week
Not all of them go that low. That’s why I said "depending on the value of the promo card."
The six-in-one packs are $26; that puts 12 at $52, which is a good value for cards. No extras, but if you’re solely buying for cards, that’s best per-$ value at present. The extras….eh. May not be worth the $!
Your opinion is valid regarding the price/value but increases in price were inevitable and they’re doing a nice job of compensating for it. They could’ve increased price and given us nothing extra
The increase in hits has made collecting and cracking packs a lot more fun.
I got my Miriam 251 from the ETB.
@@neworleansportraitphotogra9015 Found the full art Scovillain from just a regular pack. Hooray!
Also will take away value from opening
The decrease in values makes it wiser too buy singles seeing the prices on scarlet and violet
Its not even out a week and the prices dropped insane. Keep it sealed and buy the cards you need .
Opening scarlet and violet Will often Will cost you money then make some
I think the new era of cards will definitely keep investors/collectors/players/etc all interested in this set in the long run
For the most part you're probably right. But there also large movements of people who don't like the grey borders while others don't like how the standard ex cards look like the fakes out there in the past ten years. Some people don't like how the holos and reverses are just bulk now while others don't like that the price went up. Based on all the convos I've seen and been a part of it looks like a 70/30 split with 30% not liking the new sets.
I agree. I honestly love this set, I love the artworks, the grey borders and it just has crazy pull rates. This set got me more into Pokémon after kinda awhile of a hiatus.
Good god..it's such a beautiful aesthetic all around-the-clock with this set. The artwork, the illustrations of the box and the mood it creates, it's charming.
I think you're one of the more technical and informational on pokemon cards. Keep it coming!
haven't stopped by recently. been struggling with mental health and kind of lost my spark and interest in the hobby. hoping to find it again with the help of your videos. love you king
Mental Health is a double edged sword. Hang in there, I know I will.
I try to buy one of each Pokemon Center ETBs for display. Maybe there'll be long term growth, but if there isn't I can't complain because the I find the boxes beautiful. Thanks for the content Jake, I appreciate your channel very much 😁😁
Same, I have quite a few of the Pokémon center etbs, I’m so glad I still have 1 of each of the evolving skies Pokémon center etbs, probably my best turnaround right there.
Isn't long term growth basically guaranteed with any sealed Pokemon set?
“9 booster packs, which is just an odd number” I mean, he’s factually correct, you can’t argue with that!
Agreed. Ive always loved collecting ETBs but I'm off them now that SV hit and will just get booster boxes moving forward.
Yea, that will be best value imo.
I don’t know if this is on purpose, but the addition booster pack Correlates with it being Generation 9 and now 9 booster packs
We have to take into account the unfortunate (for us consumers) price increase of Pokemon TCG though. I'm from the UK so my examples might be a bit off, but will still use $:
$4*8 packs = $32
$4.50*9 packs = $40.50
Previous RRP (MSRP) rated the remaining contents of the ETB at $8 without a promo. The ScVi onward ones rate it at $9.50 with a promo. So, I think the overall comparison is largely similar, if not slightly better because I think those promos are worth more than $2 to most collectors.
Just my opinion! Obviously, no one is happy about having to pay more, but it's understandable.
I wish we had those prices in chile, most booster boxes are 140$+ here but all ETBs manage to remain in the 50$ price range
$50? Where are you buying yours? I got mine for $40 from my local card shop
This question is off topic BUT just curious, do your thumps fold backwards?
I have to say they also ramped up the packs with a Holo in every pack and 2 reverses. I would much rather have an extra pack a promo and more shine lol than having say an evolving skies etb where I didn’t pull anything.
Whats good Jake,
pulled a alt art Koraidon last night from one blister! was thrilled, although the centering is god awful on the front haha
I opened 1 of each box and got 1 ex card in each only. That's it. No gallery, no full art trainers, just two ex cards.
Slightly off topic. What is a better long term hold? 4 Crown Zenith ETB’s for $49.99 each, or a case of 3 pack blisters (12 blisters 36 packs total) for $189.95?
We did a pre-release tournament and got some packs early. This is a great set! If you like cards as a collector and not an investor...
Even as a collector, I'm not too crazy about the artwork in this set. Only a couple I really like.. but I actually do like the promos from the ETB's.
Surprisingly, the prices for S&V products have not gone up in Canada. Even the Paldea pre-orders are the same as SWSH.
Pulled 2 Alt Arts in one Booster Box, I'm stopping while ahead
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That's the right move!
Believe it or not, 2 alts in a box with this set isn't tough to do at all😂
@@MamoswineBING that's true too!
I don t understand how for u the 10 dollar increase seems too much: if all the booster increase by 50 cents now 9 packs cost u 49.5 dollars and plus have a promo inside. So the value remain the same as before or even increase. The etb never had the same value of a box but now at least have 1 more esclusive thing.
To be fair, with the .50 cent price increase per pack with just 8 that would make the ETB worth $44. Plus add the new pack and that puts it at about $48-49. I’m not happy about the increase still. Even with the increased pull rates
It’s $24.99 on Amazon right now. Worth it?
Both ETB I opened had one regular ex per box, and the promos were badly bent, huge L. The booster boxes I opened had 13-15 hits in each. Spend wisely
opened a booster box got 1 gold fighting energy, plenty of crappy iron treads and oinkologne cards and only really one nice card the Gardevoir Ex.. small sample size obviously.. I had plenty of reverse holos and holos that seem just meh.. average set unless you get lucky with the gallery/secret rares etc. The commons look so much better though with the silver border and art style I will give them that. It's a decent set but I'm excited to see better big pulls in the future
I take my chances with the hanger boosters everytime.....I always pull something good. So far the Umbreon VMAX alt art and the Charizard V alt art, both from random hanger packs!!!
Man...that Moonbreon is literally the last Eeveeloution Vmax I need and my collection would be complete! Yet, it's getting harder to find Evolving Skies single packs, at least in my area! Probably just gonna have to save up and buy it outright.
Got one yesterday for 40 Canadian. Got 3 hits decent
What do the promos on the secondary market typically go for? I'm thinking of picking up the Paldea Evolved box for the pikachu card with the S+V starters on it.
Most promos sell for ~$36,000.00 or so
I opened mine yesterday and i pulled the Arcanine ex (ultra rare?), professor's research sada ( ultra rare?) And kirlia ( illustration rare?). So yeah , i was happy with that result because i've opened etb' s with not a single pull. Btw... if i made some mistakes with he names or rarity, i'm sorry but i'm not an expert with those things😅.
Walmart selling etb for $55, bundle for $28, 3 pack blister for $15+ and sleeved for $4.49 before tax. With tax it is just too much, not sure about Target prices tho. One of my lcs actually sell for less than retail, $45 for etb, $22 for bundle and around $3.66 for a pack, guess I'll stick to lcs than retail store.
You dont take into account the price increase of all pokemon product 50 cent per pack so a etb old style would cost 4$ more so is a promo and a pack worth 6$ i think it will depend on the promo
Yeah I would only buy one if I can get it for like $43-44 shipped, tax included. Just not worth it when I can buy a booster box for $115-125
I love the promo cards and the sleeve. I'm going to buy and seal and hold onto some.
Hold on to the pokemon center box. Not the regular one. One for display, and one to put away. Same thing the with pokemon center paldea box.
Is buyee promo only possible on a desktop? 🤔
Just need to find someone to split a box with at these prices... or singles....
it's understandable if you consider inflation though
But i agree! $10 is too much. I would have preferred if the ETB stayed exactly the same but the price was $45!
Thanks for the informative videos as always, Jake! I wanted to get these ETB's, but I think I will just buy the two promo cards and then maybe I will get a booster bundle box for under MSRP.
Got my etb today and got nothing better than a holo
what if they are $24?
i got this week a silver tempest etb and i only pulled one vulpix v, yesterday i bought a scarlet etb and i got the full art arcanine twice and a golden fighting energy
I wonder if the price for Europe was also increased bcs game stores here sell it for the same price as previous sets - 46$ incl. tax.
Hi!!
I can answer that!!
I'm Portuguese and the regular ETBs go for around 45 Euros with tax wich is around 49 USD, roughly the same price as others before...
For example, Crown Zenith was 50 Euros but had 10 booster packs...
The Pokémon Center ETBs are another story, they are around 120 Euros, about 130 USD...
I would love to buy 1 of each to keep sealed but it's completely out of question at that price...
50$ that’s almost half a booster box for 9 packs some sleeves and a mid promo card. I’d rather just save and invest in that (booster box)
I opened 9 packs today and only pulled an EX and Full Art EX. Glad I pulled those but def didn't make my money back lol.
I think they went to 9 packs because it's 1/4 of a Booster Box. IMO, 8 packs never made any sense...
I honestly can't see the value with it being $20 more in Australia. I only got into the TCG a few months ago but maybe I'll dip out when I can no longer buy Sword and Shield packs.
I am a total lemon but can someone tell me how do you play this thing?
With the cost of living going up I have less to spend on my hobbies an Pokémon decides to raise prices….
Dude, I’m so mad. I just took on a manager position at work and I figured I have more money to play with for Pokémon cards but cost of living went up and msrp for cards went up so it’s basically the same still 😒
Wow, seems like I was pretty lucky! Got myself Gardevoir ex alt art, Miraidon ex alt art, Gardevoir ex full art, Gardevoir ex and Spidops ex.
I wish the sleeves were clear & not the cloudy ones. I can’t use them for playing or storing because they make holo cards look ugly.
Or maybe get rid of sleeves altogether and put 12 packs instead.
Etb’s right now are basically 9 packs & a bunch of useless junk. Pretty bad deal imo
Meijers has a deal "buy one at full price. Get the next for 50% off on all trading cards." Gonna go that route if I buy these. The sale goes until April first.
so basically 25% off
@Z Batt No, it's half off the second item you buy.
Thanks Jake. I do think the boxes are beautiful
i opened up a Miriadon box and all i got was a Banette ex and slowpoke gallery card😂
Pretty unlucky
I got someone selling me two ETBs for only $75 is that a good deal?
Yes
I'll only buy the pokemon center exclusive. That stamp promo is awesome
Sorry, but I like the box itself for storage. This has value too which you forget.
That gold Rare Candy bro🔥🔥🔥
I’ve been buying these for $40. My lgs just upped it to $45 because it just released. Sucks if only can get for $50+ lol
Wow, this is disappointing. For $50 I think they should have 10 packs. Even at $4.50/pack now, that’s still an extra $5 to cover the promo and “extra goodies” inside. $50 for 9 packs feels really steep at over $5/pack. That Koraidon promo is stunning though
The price of packs went up, So of course the etb price went up.
6:28 spend a little bit more? You mean double?
I bought 4 total of the Pokémon center ones and now idk if I should bother opening either of them 😂 and just buy a regular etb
The increase from $40 to $50 is just keeping in line with inflation. ETBs were $40 for a long time. Year over year inflation has added up in that time. It just feels like a sudden price increase because they did the price jump all at once rather than incrementally over the years.
Put another way - $50 today probably feels no different than what $40 felt like when ETBs were first priced at $40 however many years ago.
the pokemon center stamped promo makes up for the increased cost imo
Super excited for the Pokémon center cards!
Bought 20, will open 10 and hold 10 for long term. This set is going to be extremely valuable in the future
Why will it? What memorable cards will there be to make it valuable?
@@matth6707 same shit everyone said about evolutions because it was a reprint, now I hold 10 booster boxes and they are selling for 1200. Lol. Been doing this since 2004. Pokémon cards paid off my house, and I’m currently in the works of buying an investment property to rent out. Here’s a tip for you, always buy first edition in bulk. No matter what you hear, no matter if you think you know more than anyone else. I’ll make sure to come back to this message a few years from now just to clown on you some more.
Exactly! You’re spot on!
By first edition, are you saying the first set of the era mate?
@@ard-whispers5110I think that’s what he means. However, this clearly does not apply to that dogshit called sword and shield, I absolutely do not see how that base set can hold any value until maybe like 15 years down the road.
Whats the point of buying new products if your not gonna crack it? Its gonna get over printed anyways
I remember when I bought 2 evolving skies etbs and I got a couple a mini hits, no big hits
I wish I could open evolving skies ETBs but I’m not forking over 80 bucks per box
The hits are out of control, any significant collectors value looks to be a bust.
You are really paying $40 for the 9 packs so that is $4.45 a pack. You're paying $5 for the sleeves than the other $5 covers the rest of the stuff inside including the promo and the box itself which makes for a great storage box. 50 dollars seems rather reasonable to me.
Still, though, a pack, a poster, and a promo card for 10 bucks
Ive managed to buy an etb for £42, if anyone in the uk wants them I’d recommend magic madhouse. Only reason Im buying is for that Koraidon promo 😂💀
Jake you have the best Pokémon youtube channel in my opinion. We need to get you in a couple collaborations with Rev and CooltrainerRyan
Rev is awful, don’t expose Jake to that filth
@@austensmith3330 LOL! Maybe Rev just needs a good influence, haha
Nah Rev is too off base with the community and got money hungry off the pandemic. Jakes too wholesome
These boxes are just gorgeous
Computer generated art is also art. Saying that you prefer ACTUAL art just because is not physic techniques is an ignorant statement. Computer generated art is different from AI art.
I don't like the computer generated pokemon art. There you go.
I just want to know what that little tune is in the background i love it. Do do do doo do doooo do dooo
Not gonna lie you can't say it's expensive I found it for $40 where is he getting $50
I like the promo cards
My etbs were duds 😂 this set looks fake and my koraidon promo was bent. Not a good start for me in this era. My 1 tg hit had square print lines
I can’t be careful of dud boxes. They’re just drawn to me lol
I think its funny you wear a suit for your thumbnail lmao
Cool content bro.. and $10 is alot.. 5 is right
Oh wow. I thought it had 10 packs lol. Idk I'm not loving this set
The set is terrible, but the silver border is a nice change
Just took a risk and bought one for $47 on Amazon off a seller called SSA cards, with a 77% rating in the last 12 months. I hope I get what I ordered.
Great video!!!
Just bought this for 42 bucks at Walmart
My city full of scum on offer up (in my area )they have them up for $65 and neighboring areas have them up for $40/$45
Promo cards are going to be dirt cheap. Not justification to buy an ETB
Value is not there. Buy booster box.
great video
Anything Pokemon TCG is better to keep sealed.
In a few years this ETB will be worth $100 sealed.
Anything you can double your money on in 2-3 years. Is a worth it investment.
I purchased my etb for 40
I bought that for 40 dollars
You say be careful of those dud ETBS like we can see thru it 😂😊😂
Jake why don't you show your face on openings??
"Welcome back to Gameranx I'm your host Jake Baldino here and let's get into the new Scarlet and Violet Elite Trainer box"
Hey everyone
Hellllooooo!! Hope you have a great day! 💙
Lcs 60 no thanks