The clip is from the film “Bury my heart at wounded knee” the characters were real but the conversation is not. But it clearly shows two narratives of two peoples. But what do you think? Do you agree more with Colonel Miles? Agree more with Sitting Bull or maybe you think they both make good points
They are both right. Robbery and homicide has always been part of the human toolkitt. The industrial revolution ment that western Europe and USA became exeptionaly good at it is all. (They are both right... _from a certain point of view)._ Like Both Hitler and Stalin invaded Poland. Stalin did it twice!
Miles was at least mostly correct. This idea that the red tribes lived in harmony with nature and spent their days jet skiing and basket weaving flies in the face of *actual* historical record.
P.S. For the subverted, I use the term, red tribes, because NO ONE was native to America. If me being called white is not offensive, neither is being called black or red or yellow.
What Colonel Miles says is mostly true. The Lakota Sioux tribe moved from Minnesota into the Black Hills and stole the land which was stolen several times by previous tribes. Just like the American Southwest was once stolen from the natives by Spain and then conquered by the Mexicans in a war, the US won the land in a war after Mexicans invited Anglos into Texas and then attacked them after they became affluent by raising cattle.
An insane amount of people actually have the delusion that the natives all lived in perfect harmony until the white man showed up like the fire nation.
Here, you sign here and here. Accept the reservation, including your mountain, since you lost the conflict. Now this is your reservation under US laws and treaties. Oh, there is valuable materials in that mountains? Oh, these US property documents are not valid anymore. So says the US government. Lets see how happy you would be if the US government did such to your property after the fact.
@@Lobos222 you do know that they literally can do that right? It's called imminent domain. Also most warring native nations just genocided each other back in the day, I'd say our current reservation system is a bit better than that.
@@Lobos222 We could have been like them and just wiped our enemies out after the war was won. Key point being, we won AND we gave them land. Others don't do that. The people we conquered never gave land to those they conquered. They are treated better than they'd treat us. They're lucky.
@@PP-cm4reso they can call it content and monetize, reaction channels have been doing it forever but now they dont even react anymore they just sit there with a blank face
Yeah and people have been stealing land that doesn't change the fact that America is stolen land. The American government signed treaties with the Indians and broke them again and again and again and again
@@darkeen42 “muh muh stolen land buaaah buaaah” 🤣 stolen from who exactly?! The “Native American” aka East Asian Siberian?! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 btw in case you are not aware Europeans have been in America before the crossing of the so called native from Manchuria to Alaska…but what does a kangz like you know
@@jeremiahmiller4244 Nope, I agree with the video. But he didn't do squat. Just re-posted it with his useless presence in there. 😂 No intake, no point of view, just a dumb finger point.
I'm Comanche and my people were Lions not Sheep. We shook the world with our roar and conquered all that lay before us. Until the day came when crippled by disease, surrounded by enemies and overwhelmed by technology we were finally defeated. I will not dishonour my ancestors and deny their greatness by playing the victim for sympathy.
I am ute native. The Comanche were brutal. The fact is they killed entire tribes but left the boys who were able bodied for war. I don't see that as honorable but a survival tactic. If they didn't they would of had no one left.
No denying the Comanche were fearsome. At the end of the day we're humans but we're also animals doing the most natural thing trying to survive. Sometimes that means conquering other humans.
I'm an Irishman, and understand well how enemies try to destroy us they use those who are nearest and closest to us... our own kind... The North of Ireland is still occupied by a people sent here to settle and overtake us by numbers, power and influence. We also fight bravely, and have done for millennia. Just like you we in Ireland have earned a right to be regarded as warriors. greatness is right my friend. you earned that right.
Right now, the Indigenous people of England and the British isles are being colonised by unhonored promises of their leaders but to point this out, you'd be called a racist, or you'd be told it's deserved somehow.
@@_SarahElizabeth_ That's fine, best of luck though. But also I'm Indian as well. But I still won't say it's stolen even if it's "white people land" . Skin folk anit Kin folk.
@@MrHustlerking Are you unable to answer my question? I'm also Indigenous. It's not wrong to want to protect your family and what you have. If I walk into your house and move all my family in are you not going to say that this is your house? If I take your kids are you not going to look for them? If you welcome people in, that's a natural and wonderful response to have. It defies logic to think that nothing you own is yours and that if you try to protect it that you are making the argument of a child.
It WAS the story of the world. Do you want it to remain that way? P.S. The usual characters interpret this statement to mean that somehow we should/could/might change human nature, and send me comments to that effect. Only a cretin would interpret it in that way - or a guy trying very hard to appear worldly-wise. I'll leave it to you to decide if there's a difference. The evidence suggests not. A sensible person might think that with the introduction of international law and institutions of order like the UN, the International Court, the IMF and the World Bank, these things can be mitigated over time. The cretins however will continue to, well, do what cretins do and burble some nonsense. Spare me your burblings: go burble to other cretins.
@@user-o7 Are we? Looking at the comments, including the originator of this thread, I'd say everyone - except yourself apparently - is talking about the present. And the future too.
@@balazsfodor4So if I invaded your house and threw you out of it I wouldn't be stealing it, right? I'd be "conquering" it. Good to know, good to know.........
As a Native American myself I can weigh in. Literally everywhere in the world there were people killing other people for personal gain and not getting along, Europe, Asia, Africa, and the americas long before the 1700s, the 1600s, long before the 1000s, Aztec natives sacrificed slaves of tribes they conquered. The white man has his point and states as much that his fight is not Nobel and out of greed and lust, same as the natives have in the past, we all have a history of war, and unless we acknowledge that we will repeat the past with our future. Only once we all understand that the world isn’t a great or even good place can we start to change that. Thank you for reading
The atrocities committed by white man in america is no where near the conflict that was already happening. Also, who the hell appointed them as world police in this situation
I’m not Native American but personally that’s not the case for international travel. Like china in the past(not modern day) explored up to like Africa and was like “shit we good”. Europe visited a different continent and their desires were generally to conquer an extremely foreign culture and build a European state of Europeans or western influenced peoples lowered in society It’s not common in history to go across the whole ocean and try to take continents unless you Europe
@@MrClean-ep7ucIf China said "we good" then why are they wanting to take over Taiwan or why are they building islands in the Sea? It's not just Europeans it's any person who has a desire for power and there are history books full of examples from all over the earth. Don't be so quick to pick a side based on race or nationality the real war is Good vs. Evil. Any human can fall to Evil.
@@MrClean-ep7uc well considering that history tells us that most of the worlds intelligence was located in Europe and Asia, it would only seem logical that those continents would have the people that would build ships and seek out a foreign land for their own use. Throughout history the weak fall to the mightier, be it man or animals. And, yes, man may have brought animals to new areas where they may kill animals that had no defense to the new animal. But, that's just evolution. All breeds of man around the world have all been here the same amount of time. Some progressed and some stayed barbaric. Each breed chose their lifestyle. If one didnt like the other, for whatever reason, usually religion, then they were taken out. Like it or not it's just the way things have always been. We did not steal this country, we fought for it, and the better man won. Whether we like it or not, its fact not legend.
Only if you have the balls to go in the first place. Men were made of steel back then, that's why they went. Nature doesn't care for your racist narrative, in nature nothing feels sorry for itself and only the strongest will survive. Nature is a constant struggle to survive and dominate.
The real question is were there other native Americans older than the native Americans? Lots of newspaper articles and native American stories from the late 1800s and early 1900s about finding giant bones and “Moundbuilders” not taught in history class
It's well documented, but never taught. There's so much evidence of giants that people are conditioned to not see. I hope anyone reading this isn't taking a drink, because I believe that mesas are stumps of colossal, cut-down trees. They've just taken on the exterior of rock formations over the millennia.
If europeans had the right to colonize north america because indigenous north american people were killing each other... Then by that logic, people of non european origin also have the right to colonize europe? Europeans have also been killing each other. In fact most wars that happened in history occured in europe.
That's totally what I thought. Many wars happened in Europe but maybe not many . I think there was a lot of wars throughout history in Asia, Africa, South America, North America. It's just that it's not taught in school because western education is centered on the history of America after the arrival of the Europeans and the history of Europe.
I'm Irish/Native American our own histories(Native American) tell us about the lands we gave to the white men as gifts or traded for weapons and the numerous treaties broken by both sides. So no it's not stolen land since the majority of it was given and traded away before the whites conquered what was left.
White liberal extremists are crazy man. Conservative extremists aren't any better either. Anything extreme is bad. People get disillusioned, aren't informed, and more. People who are uninformed making decisions and have beliefs without the proper knowledge to do so. Recipe for disaster
To me those people have always been the most racist. The most white savior complex. Like they actually look down on other races and feel the need to advocate for them and shit. People in charge a playing a big division game and it’s working beautifully for them.
So Americans are the saviors? and Europeans didn't kill each other for centuries before they came to America to kill people weaker than them cause they didn't have arms ? So hypocritical.
"Muh they werent perfectly peaceful" Isnt a justification for colonialism, or genocide. It wasn't back then it isnt now, the land belongs to the people's who live there, it wouldn't be right to make non native Americans leave their homes either
If he hadn't been in the lower half pointing to the upper half, how would we as an audience ever known where to watch though?? He's doing the Lord's work 😂😂
“How did you get this land?” “My father gave it to me.” “And before him?” “His father.” “And before him?” “His father.” “And before him?” “His father fought for it.” “Then I shall fight you for it.” -Old Scandinavian Proverb
The point of the native American argument isn't that ancestral land means shit, it's that when the "white man" takes the land he also kills every last man women and child on it.
You realize that this is a movie and it's not remotely accurate, right? You're using a Hollywood produced movie as evidence😂 As indigenous people we didn't believe anybody owned the land, but we also didn't believe it was okay to come over here and wipe us out and push us off the place where we were living
I think you have listened to the narrative that has been pushed for the last 50 years. I spent the last 40 minutes, after reading your post, and I have found no less than 10 articles in which it states that the Indians fought each other prior to the Europeans arriving. The evidence of this is confirmed in archeological digs, something that oral history cannot refute. Instead of buying into the BS, why don’t you educate yourself and read. It’s called confirmation bias when you only look up information that suits your narrative. Aboriginals fought each other long before Europeans ever arrived and I dare say this movie was brave enough to point that out instead of risking it be “cancelled” because peoples feelings get hurt.
Although this is true, I feel us natives disliked how we were treated because we would fight, accept the conquered to join us, or create treaties which would actually be followed. The US government put us on reservations, wanting nothing to do with us until valuable resources were found, then the treaties didn't matter.
Except the us government signed treaty after treaty that it then broke when it wasn’t convenient. It is undeniably shameful how this country treated the people that were here before.
Exactly…all lands are stolen, so who should be considered original?? Some believe the natives migrated across a land bridge before spreading out. So it’s not theirs they just showed up. We bought half our country from the French. So it wasn’t really taken. And to be fair we gave them reservations to govern as they see fit and also the freedom to enjoy the rest of the country.
I'm native from Mojave tribe. Natives were just as human as the whites and also just as violent and pioneering. It's human nature to conquer and build. All our ancestors looked out for their own and nothing wrong with it. Past is past, the only thing that matters now is now
I want more people to see our ancestors just as human as theirs. It feels like Indians of the past are either seen as savages or innocent children corrupted by the white man. each tribe has had its own histories, governments, allies, enemies, wars and celebrations just like every other human culture.
I'm Apache. We have a history of picking fights with the Spanish and Mexicans and also had beef with other tribes. People then don't share a moral compass like we do now. Skin color or culture is irrelevant.
And Europeans picked fights and brutalized other Europeans. So they shouldn't complain about mass immigration into their lands because it's not theirs anymore. It belongs to the world. No more borders.
Native Americans were hunter gatherers who didn't have a concept of permanently owned land, much less recognition of the right to property. It's not stealing if it never belonged to them to begin with.
Wanna take another look at History again? Because I assure you, at least 50% of all tribes were themselves conqueror types. Take the spaniard-named Cherokee tribes. Violent rapists and destroyers.
In both cases, the victor wrote the history. It always works that way. If you want to retain your land, you have to fight. Human history is not an exercise in optimism
@gondar6181 they would've treated us worse if the rolls were reversed....anytime we show mercy we pay for it later....just look at the way black people think nowadays even though slavery still exists
@@Mrcarter_44yes but most of the natives died from disease that they brought. Far less were actually killed in battles than most think. Natives were pushed out of lands that they pushed other natives out of.
@@AdamSmith-km1fnat the time of "Irish vs english" it was technically Celts vs Britons, England wanted Scotland, Ireland and Wales, they still haven't changed either, english think they are better than those who speak Gaelic, the English are [insert name for bundle of sticks here].
@@Tankedmosquito interesting historian. So, when the Virginia company was gathering white folk in the 1600s to ship to Jamestown to work the land, who were they sending? Where does the term kidnapping come from?
@@NestaSimbaSautionly ones who didn't are those pacific islands where they had the nuke tests. Literally. All of Africa, all of Asia, all of Europe. All of North America. All of south America. All of central America. Even Australia
They did a good job fighting because after all the US did sign treaties with a lot of Native American tribes which they profit from today from casinos and other business adventures and are buying a lot of land and are taking care of their own communities. The resiliency alone is admirable.
@@jefferycantrell5363 I know about the tribes in my area they have casinos,fishing rights,smoke shoots,gas stations, and tons more to the point some tribes are giving all members per capita checks that are a really good amount each month!! Not to mention health and dental clinics,treatment centers,food assistance,rental assistance and much more a lot of tribes offer members tons of benefits that they pay for themselves.
@@jefferycantrell5363 I know the tribes in my area have casinos,restaurants,gas stations,smoke shops,marijuana shops,leasing land and warehouses, so that they can offer their members housing,medical,dental,job opportunities,treatment centers,and even give the members a monthly per capita check in the thousands and also a lot of things like profit sharing bonuses,school clothes money, all kinds of stuff they are doing pretty good especially the ones located close to city’s !
My great grandma was Indian and she would say" the land belongs to no man because no man can live as long as the land." Even the 5 nation was at war for a long time.
@@kensurrency2564However, you can be Indegenous to the land as it is a colonial term not geographical and Indians of America are Indegenous and preserve all the rights to the land.
Why is my brother named Soaring Eagle? The Chief replies, "When your brother was born the first thing I did was take him outside, and saw a eagle soaring through the air." The boy then asks, "Why is my sister named Sitting Bull?" The boys father says, "When your sister was born I brought her outside and the first thing I saw was A bull sit down in the field. Why do you ask Two Dogs Fucking?"
As a Native American of the Dakota Sioux nation we have fallen off our path so hard in my tribe in our beliefs we used to believe that land is not something to be claim but used off a need bases but all I heard about anymore is how they stole their land when we never once valued land like that before but then again we were the dominant tribe and have conquered most of it from other tribes. We sadly just disregarded our respect and now just want to be perpetual victims. As a Dakota Sioux Native American anyone is welcome here you don’t owe us anything we can build a better place together and I would rather share this land here in American with Whites, Blacks, Asians, and anyone any day my people used to believe in community but want exclude anyone else but themselves but I want to make a change and bring our old beliefs back and that starts by changing myself and including everyone so we can grow, struggle, and overcome together.
Wouldn’t by default hunting be the oldest profession tho? I’ve hear prostitution and war I’ve heard that before but 100% realistically the first thing the first human would have had to do was go find food…? Idk stoner thought
The Anglo Saxons came down from Scandinavia and invaded England and conquered the land. Only to have a new group of Scandinavians invade a couple hundred years later lol.
No one is saying there weren't horrible things done. What he is saying is Indians were doing the same thing to each other long before Europeans showed up. We were just better equipped and more numerous.
I've been deep in researching hunan history as far back as has been recorded. Like you said, humans have been killing each other since it's inception. It's been a thorn in my heart since I watched the US fire bomb the jungles in Vietnam when I seen it on the news when I was 3 years old. Besides just raiding people's material goods snd land, the hatred of other people who didn't look or sound like them also littered humanity and history with millions of bodies. Killing just for fun. I've rejected all of that way of thinking.
@@jamesmichaeljean7840 If you ignore the jewish people living there, who bought land and had that land acknowledged by the UN during the partition and was forced to defend their land over and over to a group of people who wanted it all and spent 75 years crying and whining as opposed to knowing when to cut their losses and move on. Keep crying.
@@kazekamiha yes, we all know about how England gave the jews stolen land in the Balfour declaration. How can someone gift others with stolen goods 😂 it's a crime to give or receive stolen goods. 😂 Can I rob you and sell your belongings on ebay?
What world do you live on? Natives routinely committed mass genocide by killing all the adult males, enslaving the adult women and raising the children as members of capturing tribe. If you think that's not actual genocide, you need to get a dictionary.
Yet we both have commented on his video. So we have both added to the algorithm giving him more views and money. So his purpose on the video isn't in fact useless
Natives always say that land cannot be owned, but now it suddenly can because of reparations. Which is it? The strongest always own the land. Read a history book.
As a Sioux Indian myself, I can say they both make good arguments. We were a very war-like people and always have been. We simply did what war-like people do. Just as European Tribes fought each other on their own continent. So we Natives fought each other. Human beings have always fought one another for one reason or another.
Me, being of "viking" heritage, also has to admit that my ancestors might not all have been heroes. But one thing I realize more and more, the common man do not want to fight in others conquests. But are forced or fooled into armies, big or small, for the gain of some few mighty men. This is a fact all trough history, and not at all less today. Always when a war is about, to whos gain? When a plague is about, to whos benefit? And if there are no need at the present, some are really good to find a way to create it, and fill it. While dancing around their golden calf of Mammon.
@@mathiasjohannesson9833This argument kind of falls apart when you read about what happens during the sacking of a city. Most of the time, you can’t keep the conquering soldiers from raping and looting and killing the innocents. Even if the commander of the army orders them not to do so, and kills men that are found doing it, you can’t prevent it.
And many of the earlier European tribes were conquered by the Romans and when the time came for the Empire to take a tumble (at least in Western Europe) new tribes like the Goths and Franks helped it along and took over the vacated imperial territories.
@@mathiasjohannesson9833 Not really, going to war meant booty, it also meant promotion if you did well, eventually it could mean leadership. How do you think those powerful people became powerful. How do you think colonialism works? its only the recent past where powerful people did not have to fight, politically and physically to keep their position of power. To "better" yourself is as old as humans and even the animals do it today.
Native American here: he ain’t wrong. Land is won in blood, and it’s always been that way. The moment you’re too busy or afraid to shed blood to keep it, you’ll slowly start to lose it.
@@routerider9542sad truth most people don't seem to remember. Every land was conquered at least once by some other group even if it wasn't done by an outside group.
Facts. I was raised on a reservation and I'm here to tell you that tribes have a hate for each other that goes back farther than recorded history. So do Asians but that's a different miniseries.
And that's what makes us foolish Native Americans have so much hate and we take it out on each other. We need a common enemy and I'm set on making that enemy Red, White, and Blue.
@@TrippinCreatives - Eh, history? I've met and known Americans whose parents emigrated from Japan, Korea, Philippines, Hong Kong. The latter three peoples told me it was pretty clear within their families how there was no love lost for the Japanese. Wonder why...
@@user-wi9se5ll3j - Wow. Haven't learned much from history. I'll take those of whatever tribe/ethnicity/skin tone who believe in Love, we are all made in God's Image, shared values, and treating others-as-I-want-to-be-treated for 100, Alex.
@@machtnichtsseimann No God intrusted Natives with this land we had a connection with him and all the was takin away from us. So we must take it back, you walk on the graves of our proud soldiers and what's gonna stop us from doing the same to yours. The Vietnamese found a way and so shall we, I will burn in eternity in hell so that future kids will have that connection with God again.
As a Native American I’m on the side of the Colonel. This idea white liberals think we were just peaceful people living in perfect harmony singing Kumbaya is something they wish we were so they can have something to be upset about and feel morally superior than other people on. Well guess what that’s not what happened We lost fair and square there’s always a bigger fish. Just like who knows maybe a bigger fish than the United States May conquer us at some point. Either way I’m proud to be an American and I’m proud to be a Native. I’m proud of BOTH. Stop being so offended for us
I wholeheartedly agree with this. I will say the whole Indian schools affair was a really embarrassing part of our history but I think as compensation, seeking mutually beneficial business ventures and finding ways to help both our peoples prosper would wipe that slate clean. No use dwelling on the past, look towards the future and find ways to make tomorrow better than yesterday.
@@alecmoon8895 dawg it’s hollywood. You think this bullshit represents the opinion of the remaining Indian tribes? Lol. Whatever philosophy you use it’s obvious the Americans cheated and lied to acquire all this land. There was no conquest there was no glory. The Americans behaved like thieves and cheaters without honor. And even if they had conquered this land (which we’ve already established they didn’t), they took the most pristine land on planet earth and covered it with asphalt and McDonald’s. Every single thing and I mean EVERY single thing that Americans have done has been detrimental to everyone, including themselves.
It still doesn't mean America wasn't stolen land though. In spite of whatever the natives may or may not have been doing to each other. They were at least natives.
I think what got really confused is how natives Treat their own tribes with respect or how they treat their treaties with respect Natives were excellent tradersIs that kind of grew the peaceful name
100% True! My family is Cree, and my Grandfather use to say “the English” were a Bigger and Stronger Tribe. Our people fought and we lost with Honor. Don’t Dis-Honor your family by crying about it.
Then fight back, they disrespect your ancestors all day. Hate is very powerful with us yet we take it out on each other, you think white if you don't want to fight, to kill, to be a savage animal.
@@badgerrrlattin35 Unfortunately, we have weak people that allow EVERYTHING to bother them... claiming Racism, Sexism, Hurt Feelings, etc. If someone says something hurtful to you, say something hurtful back, but don't dwell on it... The irony is that other Tribes would have murdered us, but the English; let us join there society. You have a chance, take it!
Fighting over land and supplies is the oldest struggle known to man, and it is a man made struggle. We all could live peacefully but it is not in our nature.
@@allaboutrap1 we lived peacefully as hunter gatherers, only fighting to protect family/tribe, not fighting over land because the land was not wanted permanently.
@@Action2me they were more likely to move on than risk dying, they didn’t have the people to replace the dead like we do today. I suspect they would move on before fighting to the death over a bush.
I think it’s awesome that all the ancient historical recordings are coming to light now, I’m even more impressed that they converted them to colour. Modern technology is brilliant and allows us to see these meetings from the past in full colour and not in black and when they were recorded. I recently watched a really long story with Napoleon in it, it was also remastered into colour and the quality was fantastic. The battles were very well recorded. I really hope they find even older recordings.
As a person who is half Chirachua Apache, I have said many times that my ancestors were not peaceful and often times fought other tribes long before Columbus crossed the sea, I have white friends who try talk down to me on how my ancestors were peaceful and they blow nonsense about the romanticized idea of happy and peaceful native Americans, where do people think the practice of scalping came from, or binding people up on an ant hill while cutting their eye lids of so that their brain can cook, this scene is as true as it gets here
@@djsevenone340The scene may be fake but it just tells you how to world operated during the time of imperialism. Taking land was important for a country to grow. It was conquered or be conquered during times in which imperialism was common.
Most people don't give two shits about whether or not the natives were peaceful. The argument of who the land belongs to stems from some people needing to be reminded that land is not a birthright. It's about the irony of descendants of immigrants telling new immigrants to go back to their land.
No disrespect intended but it's really easy for someone who dosent own land to say no one owns it. Kinda like it's really easy for a homeless person to say that no one owns that persons home anyone can use it. The Native people fought and killed to keep other people out of their territory and were beaten back and killed off by others and moved on to other lands that they took from whoever was there. If you wanna say "Yeah but thats not ownership, then your just arguing semantics"
@@theycallme4799 "Not all 'the native people' acted, thought, and lived the same." I completely agree, I've pointed that very same thing out to others in this comment section. There were "norms" though and disputes over hunting rights, who can live where and the solution lying in violence rather then saying neither of us own the land was the norm. At the end of the day we are all here now together as one unity of nations and states and culture.
No person living comes from a society that didn't at one point kill for what they have. Human history is bloody. Trying to take a moral high ground for history is ridiculous.
Before humanity started conquering each other we slaughtered all other sapiens, kill and take has been the way since our ancient ancestors invented war.
@@callyjoe164no he was referring to the natives doing it to each other. Black africans did it to each other as well and sold what was a tiny portion of their population of slaves to white europeans who were leaving Europe for the Americans
Wow holy shit, a comment and replies that acknowledge that historically we are all the same. Almost like Humans are just naturally assholes to each other and will continue to be.
THE TRUTH IS: 🏹 The Clan of the cave Bears taught the natives how to make 🔥 fire/hunt/shelter/make arrows, spears/unite/communicate etc. Cavemen were colonized by the natives / without any reservations and went extinct, - I was told this story by a big foot who said their clan will never be like them and never socialize with humans EVER!
The Spanish conquered the Americas 95 years before the French, Dutch and English. That's why 32 of the 35 nations in the America's speak Soanish. The other 3 countries speak Portugese, French and English. The Spanish conquered the new world and established the Atlantic Slave Trade long before the British, French and Dutch came along.
@@habibimaya you tripping buddy, the Spanish prohibited the indigenous slavery in 1500 only after 8 years of America was discovered. And If they speak Spanish in all that countries is because the Spanish actually treated that people as humans while you exterminated everyone, now you understand why they don’t speak English, because where you went there was no more of “they” ,you killed them. Good try trying to spread the black legend against Spain , but you will remain the biggest genocides of the history. Spain did schools , hospitals and universities to that people , and gave them the same rights as someone from Spain. You are literally brain washed, but as they say, it’s easily to lie to a man than make him realize he was lied. Now learn to point urself at a map. It doesn’t matter how much you try to twist the reality, it is what it is
But we don’t live in peace at all, conflicts are going down all the time, America itself is divided between its people, and mass shootings are damn near a daily occurrence.
As a half Yaqui. I've heard the same stories. No land is anyones land. It's fought and won. Not by white men or red. But by men themselves. Edit: I didn't mean to start a debate. Don't stand on anyone's shoulders and call yourself tall. We all know what life is like. And unfortunately we are here on YT arguing about it.
@@waqzh6128he aint deluded at all. Every but of land owned by tribes/countries were fought for. Land belongs to the victor, thats what history shows. Maybe you should tale a history class.
@@HuckleberryisonYTland belongs to no man brother. A lack of self knowledge is why this world has been this way. Once you truly realize that this whole world is everyone’s home then there can peace on this realm
@mr.warrioro3172 then the Muslims can move to the millions of miles of mulim land and should not fight to live among the isreali people....... wait that's standards and with out double standards you have none. Modern day Baby beheader slaver swine.
Yeah totally normal and warranted to commit genocide, rape and steal. you’re right 🤦♂️ my country Ireland was much the same before English invasion, we were a land that fought against each other constantly in tribes up until there was a common enemy in the English. Just because you’re more advanced than another land doesn’t give you the right to take all there stuff for your own gain and enslave the people. It’s like saying r*pe is okay because that’s been happening throughout history anyway. That’s so stupid, no oppressed person would say that. clearly you must be white as a ghost not Native American as you claim.
A few hundred years before the Spanish, English the Vikings arrived, the only reason they didn’t stay is because they had the same kind of weapons as the natives ( bow and arrows and spears).
As a naturalized American from Mexico, I am thankfull for a country that fought its way to this point in history. Now, the fight is to reign it back from self-destruction.
As a native of the Creek Nation, I can say this is accurate. Tribes also had slaves. It was a brutal time for sure, but not all tribes were as violent as others. There was war.
I think the point that’s trying to be made is that all civilizations have problems, and at one time have done gravely immoral things. No-one, not even the natives are exempt. The fairytale that the natives were a perfect and sinless people living in perfect harmony is an indefensible and almost laughable claim. (My family has both white and native roots by the way)
Its happening again between government and citizens they are creating propaganda to make us hate each other for distraction so they can further their agenda without us watching them
All land is stolen. The mere fact we separate and categorize ourselves by invisible lines on the land is baffling. When you wanted something back in the day, you took it, by force. Every race and ethnicity is guilty of this.
Y’all used small pox blankets on us though, and caused the biggest genocide the world has ever seen by almost making my people go extinct from your greed. The whole world doesn’t put horrible viruses on things and send them to countries, as it’s seen as some of the worst things you can do in war. Quit lying and giving your pos ancestors a break for slaughtering my people, all while raping our women. That’s ok though in your mind
Yet, it is still the path of huge suffering. Your mother, father, sibling, friends, cousins and all have to go through suffering in each huge war. Taking people land is not something to be taken lightly. It is the virus within human that was uncontrollable and wanted to destroy itself and man kind.
This is not about who at fault or blaming Like what this video implies at all, this is just two men talking at their problems, but a world war is something terrible you wish will never happened. It is real not from movie and if you experience war once, you will never accept this easily. It all terrible in whichever war it is.
@@shirokun4742what delusional fantasy did you read? The India and Chinese land before what it is today consist of hundreds if not thousands of tribes, ethic groups and independent states. They have been waging wars for thousands of year, conquering each other, dynasties after dynasties.
That’s like saying people that cut down trees are stealing homes of the birds that live in them. Just because you put a flag on a piece of grass doesn’t make it yours.
The big difference is that Native Americans did not conquer an existing population and take their land from them; their ancestors crossed the Bering Land Bridge into two uninhabited continents, somewhere between 13,000 and 35,700 years ago. So they were here first and were here alone for thousands of years. Also, using the fact that they warred as well as some sort of blanket absolution justifies any and all wars of aggression as simply "might makes right." Is that really what everyone believes? We're also leaving out the fact that for decades the US did more than wage a war of conquest - it waged a war of genocide.
Nope we took it just like the various Indian tribes did from each other. We should stop saying we are sorry for that. We took the land because we could and we needed it.
"If you steal a land, you're a noblemen. If you steal a pig, you're a criminal" -Danish folksong "Steal an apple and you're a theif. Steal a country and you're a statesman" -Jafar
@@liamrmorgans921 the difference is that Native Americans got all rounded up and killed off to the point where there aren't any left. How the fuck is that justified at all? Because they weren't peaceful ,so we can just cause borderline extinction of an entire genetic lineage of humanity from the ENTIRE western hemisphere. How can you compare that to any Indian war? Was EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TRIBE at war? Were they all blood thirsty animals? Fuck no Yeah tribal warfare maaaan
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The clip is from the film “Bury my heart at wounded knee” the characters were real but the conversation is not. But it clearly shows two narratives of two peoples.
But what do you think?
Do you agree more with Colonel Miles? Agree more with Sitting Bull or maybe you think they both make good points
They are both right.
Robbery and homicide has always been part of the human toolkitt.
The industrial revolution ment that western Europe and USA became exeptionaly good at it is all.
(They are both right... _from a certain point of view)._
Like Both Hitler and Stalin invaded Poland.
Stalin did it twice!
Miles was at least mostly correct. This idea that the red tribes lived in harmony with nature and spent their days jet skiing and basket weaving flies in the face of *actual* historical record.
P.S. For the subverted, I use the term, red tribes, because NO ONE was native to America. If me being called white is not offensive, neither is being called black or red or yellow.
What Colonel Miles says is mostly true. The Lakota Sioux tribe moved from Minnesota into the Black Hills and stole the land which was stolen several times by previous tribes.
Just like the American Southwest was once stolen from the natives by Spain and then conquered by the Mexicans in a war, the US won the land in a war after Mexicans invited Anglos into Texas and then attacked them after they became affluent by raising cattle.
I don’t think Sitting Bull made any points. He just got offended by the truth.
An insane amount of people actually have the delusion that the natives all lived in perfect harmony until the white man showed up like the fire nation.
Here, you sign here and here. Accept the reservation, including your mountain, since you lost the conflict. Now this is your reservation under US laws and treaties.
Oh, there is valuable materials in that mountains? Oh, these US property documents are not valid anymore. So says the US government.
Lets see how happy you would be if the US government did such to your property after the fact.
@@Lobos222 you do know that they literally can do that right? It's called imminent domain. Also most warring native nations just genocided each other back in the day, I'd say our current reservation system is a bit better than that.
@Lobos222 man woke up and decided to drop the hardest US W
@@Lobos222 We could have been like them and just wiped our enemies out after the war was won. Key point being, we won AND we gave them land. Others don't do that. The people we conquered never gave land to those they conquered. They are treated better than they'd treat us. They're lucky.
Have you ever in your life seen a person with this opinion?
Dude took up most of the screen and contributed absolutely nothing
That’s what I was thinking. Why do people do that? Just standing there point at the screen when it could take up the whole thing.
@@PP-cm4reso they can call it content and monetize, reaction channels have been doing it forever but now they dont even react anymore they just sit there with a blank face
Thats how people get famous nowadays
This is literally what most of youtube is starting to become now.
Smug look on face as if he doing the explaining knowledgeably
Man has been killing each other since Cain and Abel
Yeah and people have been stealing land that doesn't change the fact that America is stolen land. The American government signed treaties with the Indians and broke them again and again and again and again
True story or not.... It's still a great metaphor
@@rcdune7132 not really
@@user-ng8kt3hz4x haha how are you gonna say "not really" when you were the one who initially said it?? Hahaha please help me to understand that logic
@@darkeen42 “muh muh stolen land buaaah buaaah” 🤣 stolen from who exactly?! The “Native American” aka East Asian Siberian?! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 btw in case you are not aware Europeans have been in America before the crossing of the so called native from Manchuria to Alaska…but what does a kangz like you know
If you ever feel useless in your life, remember this guy and his green screen.
I will not
Alone that you noticed that makes you useless 🎉
He hurt your feelings enough though
@@jeremiahmiller4244 Nope, I agree with the video. But he didn't do squat. Just re-posted it with his useless presence in there. 😂 No intake, no point of view, just a dumb finger point.
@@daude111 that I see your point on
I'm Comanche and my people were Lions not Sheep. We shook the world with our roar and conquered all that lay before us. Until the day came when crippled by disease, surrounded by enemies and overwhelmed by technology we were finally defeated. I will not dishonour my ancestors and deny their greatness by playing the victim for sympathy.
Well put! If everyone respected the right for each people to honor their ancestors as they see fit things would be so much simpler.
I am ute native. The Comanche were brutal. The fact is they killed entire tribes but left the boys who were able bodied for war. I don't see that as honorable but a survival tactic. If they didn't they would of had no one left.
No denying the Comanche were fearsome. At the end of the day we're humans but we're also animals doing the most natural thing trying to survive. Sometimes that means conquering other humans.
I'm an Irishman, and understand well how enemies try to destroy us
they use those who are nearest and closest to us...
our own kind...
The North of Ireland is still occupied by a people sent here to settle and overtake us by numbers, power and influence.
We also fight bravely, and have done for millennia.
Just like you we in Ireland have earned a right to be regarded as warriors.
greatness is right my friend.
you earned that right.
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Yeah right...
Not just the story of American Indians, it is the story of all human kind.
except for Millennials, they're still trying to conquer pronouns and the ability to use whatever bathroom they want.
💯
It’s all as violent and pointless as the story of Cain and Able from the Bible. Not much has changed since.
BINGO!!
Truth
True, but we aquired most of their land through unhonored treaties.
Exactly
@@lazer8776not exactly. Who went against the treaties?
@@Garth-bd3pu who do you think?
Right now, the Indigenous people of England and the British isles are being colonised by unhonored promises of their leaders but to point this out, you'd be called a racist, or you'd be told it's deserved somehow.
Based
No land is stolen. "It's our's" is a child argument.
So how do you feel about migrants invading the Northern Hemisphere? Are you cool with that or is that land yours?
@@_SarahElizabeth_ That's fine, best of luck though. But also I'm Indian as well. But I still won't say it's stolen even if it's "white people land" . Skin folk anit Kin folk.
@@MrHustlerking Are you unable to answer my question? I'm also Indigenous. It's not wrong to want to protect your family and what you have. If I walk into your house and move all my family in are you not going to say that this is your house? If I take your kids are you not going to look for them? If you welcome people in, that's a natural and wonderful response to have. It defies logic to think that nothing you own is yours and that if you try to protect it that you are making the argument of a child.
@@MrHustlerkingDon't cry when refugees from the middle east invade live in your house
This is the story of the whole world: conquer or be conquered.
It WAS the story of the world. Do you want it to remain that way?
P.S. The usual characters interpret this statement to mean that somehow we should/could/might change human nature, and send me comments to that effect.
Only a cretin would interpret it in that way - or a guy trying very hard to appear worldly-wise. I'll leave it to you to decide if there's a difference. The evidence suggests not.
A sensible person might think that with the introduction of international law and institutions of order like the UN, the International Court, the IMF and the World Bank, these things can be mitigated over time.
The cretins however will continue to, well, do what cretins do and burble some nonsense. Spare me your burblings: go burble to other cretins.
@@LordOfLightwe are talking about past here
@@user-o7 Are we? Looking at the comments, including the originator of this thread, I'd say everyone - except yourself apparently - is talking about the present. And the future too.
@ellyn0301 Thank you! You are exactly right. Not stolen land, conquered!
@@balazsfodor4So if I invaded your house and threw you out of it I wouldn't be stealing it, right? I'd be "conquering" it. Good to know, good to know.........
As a Native American myself I can weigh in. Literally everywhere in the world there were people killing other people for personal gain and not getting along, Europe, Asia, Africa, and the americas long before the 1700s, the 1600s, long before the 1000s, Aztec natives sacrificed slaves of tribes they conquered. The white man has his point and states as much that his fight is not Nobel and out of greed and lust, same as the natives have in the past, we all have a history of war, and unless we acknowledge that we will repeat the past with our future. Only once we all understand that the world isn’t a great or even good place can we start to change that. Thank you for reading
The atrocities committed by white man in america is no where near the conflict that was already happening. Also, who the hell appointed them as world police in this situation
I’m not Native American but personally that’s not the case for international travel. Like china in the past(not modern day) explored up to like Africa and was like “shit we good”. Europe visited a different continent and their desires were generally to conquer an extremely foreign culture and build a European state of Europeans or western influenced peoples lowered in society
It’s not common in history to go across the whole ocean and try to take continents unless you Europe
@@MrClean-ep7ucIf China said "we good" then why are they wanting to take over Taiwan or why are they building islands in the Sea? It's not just Europeans it's any person who has a desire for power and there are history books full of examples from all over the earth. Don't be so quick to pick a side based on race or nationality the real war is Good vs. Evil. Any human can fall to Evil.
@@MrClean-ep7uc well considering that history tells us that most of the worlds intelligence was located in Europe and Asia, it would only seem logical that those continents would have the people that would build ships and seek out a foreign land for their own use. Throughout history the weak fall to the mightier, be it man or animals. And, yes, man may have brought animals to new areas where they may kill animals that had no defense to the new animal. But, that's just evolution. All breeds of man around the world have all been here the same amount of time. Some progressed and some stayed barbaric. Each breed chose their lifestyle. If one didnt like the other, for whatever reason, usually religion, then they were taken out. Like it or not it's just the way things have always been. We did not steal this country, we fought for it, and the better man won. Whether we like it or not, its fact not legend.
Only if you have the balls to go in the first place. Men were made of steel back then, that's why they went. Nature doesn't care for your racist narrative, in nature nothing feels sorry for itself and only the strongest will survive. Nature is a constant struggle to survive and dominate.
The real question is were there other native Americans older than the native Americans? Lots of newspaper articles and native American stories from the late 1800s and early 1900s about finding giant bones and “Moundbuilders” not taught in history class
It's well documented, but never taught. There's so much evidence of giants that people are conditioned to not see. I hope anyone reading this isn't taking a drink, because I believe that mesas are stumps of colossal, cut-down trees. They've just taken on the exterior of rock formations over the millennia.
If europeans had the right to colonize north america because indigenous north american people were killing each other...
Then by that logic, people of non european origin also have the right to colonize europe?
Europeans have also been killing each other.
In fact most wars that happened in history occured in europe.
That's totally what I thought.
Many wars happened in Europe but maybe not many . I think there was a lot of wars throughout history in Asia, Africa, South America, North America. It's just that it's not taught in school because western education is centered on the history of America after the arrival of the Europeans and the history of Europe.
As a Native American, I have been saying this same thing to White Liberal my entire life!!
I'm Irish/Native American our own histories(Native American) tell us about the lands we gave to the white men as gifts or traded for weapons and the numerous treaties broken by both sides. So no it's not stolen land since the majority of it was given and traded away before the whites conquered what was left.
White liberal extremists are crazy man. Conservative extremists aren't any better either. Anything extreme is bad. People get disillusioned, aren't informed, and more. People who are uninformed making decisions and have beliefs without the proper knowledge to do so. Recipe for disaster
To me those people have always been the most racist. The most white savior complex. Like they actually look down on other races and feel the need to advocate for them and shit.
People in charge a playing a big division game and it’s working beautifully for them.
What tribe are you decended from?
So what is natives had their wars, spain was invator and nothing changes it. Its natives land and thats it
We killed our neighbors, but you gave us the guns to do it? Not a good argument.
You tripping.
But y'all gone have to give it back eventually.
Double
@@Ozem_Israelthat’s very doubtful. Actually that’s 100% doubtful.
but before they just used bows dude, having guns doesn’t just cause people to start killing eachother
@@Ozem_IsraelSomebody missed a lot of world history classes.😅
So Americans are the saviors? and Europeans didn't kill each other for centuries before they came to America to kill people weaker than them cause they didn't have arms ?
So hypocritical.
True, however the U.S has broken treaty and agreements countless times. These facts are well documented. That is the real issue.
"Muh they werent perfectly peaceful"
Isnt a justification for colonialism, or genocide. It wasn't back then it isnt now, the land belongs to the people's who live there, it wouldn't be right to make non native Americans leave their homes either
So glad dude was there with his green screen, don't know what i would have done without him
Lmao
Yes, we need his face reaction to remind us to react as well.
If he hadn't been in the lower half pointing to the upper half, how would we as an audience ever known where to watch though?? He's doing the Lord's work 😂😂
This is literally the laziest god damn content on this whole platform.
Fr we need mkre people like him
“How did you get this land?”
“My father gave it to me.”
“And before him?”
“His father.”
“And before him?”
“His father.”
“And before him?”
“His father fought for it.”
“Then I shall fight you for it.”
-Old Scandinavian Proverb
The point of the native American argument isn't that ancestral land means shit, it's that when the "white man" takes the land he also kills every last man women and child on it.
Then all of our descendants shall live in wars
You realize that this is a movie and it's not remotely accurate, right? You're using a Hollywood produced movie as evidence😂
As indigenous people we didn't believe anybody owned the land, but we also didn't believe it was okay to come over here and wipe us out and push us off the place where we were living
@jamesjdm Every culture is guilty of crimes against nature, crimes against humanity.
I think you have listened to the narrative that has been pushed for the last 50 years.
I spent the last 40 minutes, after reading your post, and I have found no less than 10 articles in which it states that the Indians fought each other prior to the Europeans arriving.
The evidence of this is confirmed in archeological digs, something that oral history cannot refute.
Instead of buying into the BS, why don’t you educate yourself and read. It’s called confirmation bias when you only look up information that suits your narrative.
Aboriginals fought each other long before Europeans ever arrived and I dare say this movie was brave enough to point that out instead of risking it be “cancelled” because peoples feelings get hurt.
Although this is true, I feel us natives disliked how we were treated because we would fight, accept the conquered to join us, or create treaties which would actually be followed. The US government put us on reservations, wanting nothing to do with us until valuable resources were found, then the treaties didn't matter.
I’m American Indian and South American Indian. I actually got to meet and know my great grandmother who was pure native.
Every land is stolen land. Whether it’s 500 or 5000 years ago.
Except the us government signed treaty after treaty that it then broke when it wasn’t convenient. It is undeniably shameful how this country treated the people that were here before.
Whoever had it first should’ve been stronger 🤷♂️ you can’t steal something that’s already stolen
@@CodaCoda9 back to my original comment…..
@@johnwiz4460 ya you can hahahah you just stealing it from the next person
Exactly…all lands are stolen, so who should be considered original??
Some believe the natives migrated across a land bridge before spreading out. So it’s not theirs they just showed up.
We bought half our country from the French. So it wasn’t really taken.
And to be fair we gave them reservations to govern as they see fit and also the freedom to enjoy the rest of the country.
I'm native from Mojave tribe. Natives were just as human as the whites and also just as violent and pioneering. It's human nature to conquer and build. All our ancestors looked out for their own and nothing wrong with it. Past is past, the only thing that matters now is now
Native Americans are some of the best warriors! Its known in White history
Yes. Well said.
Past is past, the only thing that matters now is now = cut out every context ever.
You up to this? xD
I want more people to see our ancestors just as human as theirs. It feels like Indians of the past are either seen as savages or innocent children corrupted by the white man. each tribe has had its own histories, governments, allies, enemies, wars and celebrations just like every other human culture.
Bad luck to be colonized by hulligans and pirates
Always remember you came to this land uninvited
And so is your opinion
The other tribes: *having the most genuine conversation about their future*
The other men: _”Looks like it’s looting time!_
I'm Apache. We have a history of picking fights with the Spanish and Mexicans and also had beef with other tribes. People then don't share a moral compass like we do now. Skin color or culture is irrelevant.
we dont "share a moral compass" now either...
@@danielgriff2659and we never will .
And Europeans picked fights and brutalized other Europeans. So they shouldn't complain about mass immigration into their lands because it's not theirs anymore. It belongs to the world. No more borders.
Apache throw hands on sight
For reals. Power doesn't care what your culture is, it will fall upon whoever wants to seize it.
Every land was someone else's land at some point. It is what it is at this point.
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U crazy lol no one was in america befor the native Americans, native americans was the first people and race in america
So no israel then right
philippines, hawaii, taiwan, new zealand, iceland, denmark, norway, japan, papua new guinea.
be like... YOU THINK WE ARE A JOKE?
Native Americans were hunter gatherers who didn't have a concept of permanently owned land, much less recognition of the right to property.
It's not stealing if it never belonged to them to begin with.
There culture was inferior
Wanna take another look at History again? Because I assure you, at least 50% of all tribes were themselves conqueror types. Take the spaniard-named Cherokee tribes. Violent rapists and destroyers.
The vast majority of native Americans lived in urban settlements and had a concept of land ownership because they had permanent residence.
Are you sure?
In both cases, the victor wrote the history. It always works that way. If you want to retain your land, you have to fight. Human history is not an exercise in optimism
Doesn’t really work here. The victor won and still wrote how horrible they treated the native Americans.
@gondar6181 they would've treated us worse if the rolls were reversed....anytime we show mercy we pay for it later....just look at the way black people think nowadays even though slavery still exists
I'm a native and tbh he's not wrong my people still have beef with other tribes
But you know damn good and well that Europeans arriving in the Americas was the worst thing that ever happened to your people.
@@Mrcarter_44the same could be said with the English against the Irish, what is your point? This is the way of the world.
@@Mrcarter_44yes but most of the natives died from disease that they brought. Far less were actually killed in battles than most think. Natives were pushed out of lands that they pushed other natives out of.
@@AdamSmith-km1fnat the time of "Irish vs english" it was technically Celts vs Britons, England wanted Scotland, Ireland and Wales, they still haven't changed either, english think they are better than those who speak Gaelic, the English are [insert name for bundle of sticks here].
@@Tankedmosquito interesting historian. So, when the Virginia company was gathering white folk in the 1600s to ship to Jamestown to work the land, who were they sending? Where does the term kidnapping come from?
I love how they focus on America, but literally every single country on earth has been invaded by somebody. All land has stolen land.😂😂
Because no other countries entertain this crap. Wht liberals are the only ppl pushing this BS, and really, no one cares anymore.
Not all but most.
@@NestaSimbaSautionly ones who didn't are those pacific islands where they had the nuke tests. Literally. All of Africa, all of Asia, all of Europe. All of North America. All of south America. All of central America. Even Australia
Bottom line: All of human civilization, ended when we stopped sharing what earth gave us and started making up borders and walls.
💯 we're savages.
I mean he’s not wrong, every nationality kills it’s own at one point
They did a good job fighting because after all the US did sign treaties with a lot of Native American tribes which they profit from today from casinos and other business adventures and are buying a lot of land and are taking care of their own communities. The resiliency alone is admirable.
I’ll ask you a question. How are most tribes taking care of their own people?? I’ll wait.
@@jefferycantrell5363 I know about the tribes in my area they have casinos,fishing rights,smoke shoots,gas stations, and tons more to the point some tribes are giving all members per capita checks that are a really good amount each month!! Not to mention health and dental clinics,treatment centers,food assistance,rental assistance and much more a lot of tribes offer members tons of benefits that they pay for themselves.
@@jefferycantrell5363 I know the tribes in my area have casinos,restaurants,gas stations,smoke shops,marijuana shops,leasing land and warehouses, so that they can offer their members housing,medical,dental,job opportunities,treatment centers,and even give the members a monthly per capita check in the thousands and also a lot of things like profit sharing bonuses,school clothes money, all kinds of stuff they are doing pretty good especially the ones located close to city’s !
My great grandma was Indian and she would say" the land belongs to no man because no man can live as long as the land." Even the 5 nation was at war for a long time.
You mean Native right?
@@JustedurBAyou missed the point. nobody is “native” to anywhere. there were other peoples before them.
@@kensurrency2564However, you can be Indegenous to the land as it is a colonial term not geographical and Indians of America are Indegenous and preserve all the rights to the land.
Wonderful quote. I’m going to use it!
Your grandma is wise.
Without the man pointing to the video, I wouldn't have been able to find my way or know where to point my eyes. Thank you so much!
This made me giggle.
this new so called reaction style where people nod and point and make stupid faces really erks the hell outa me lol
I was wondering why you would have a green screen to not use it - aside from saying you have one?
😂😂😂 he's gonna change the world
I dislike it as much as you
Why is my brother named Soaring Eagle? The Chief replies, "When your brother was born the first thing I did was take him outside, and saw a eagle soaring through the air." The boy then asks, "Why is my sister named Sitting Bull?" The boys father says, "When your sister was born I brought her outside and the first thing I saw was A bull sit down in the field. Why do you ask Two Dogs Fucking?"
As a Native American of the Dakota Sioux nation we have fallen off our path so hard in my tribe in our beliefs we used to believe that land is not something to be claim but used off a need bases but all I heard about anymore is how they stole their land when we never once valued land like that before but then again we were the dominant tribe and have conquered most of it from other tribes. We sadly just disregarded our respect and now just want to be perpetual victims. As a Dakota Sioux Native American anyone is welcome here you don’t owe us anything we can build a better place together and I would rather share this land here in American with Whites, Blacks, Asians, and anyone any day my people used to believe in community but want exclude anyone else but themselves but I want to make a change and bring our old beliefs back and that starts by changing myself and including everyone so we can grow, struggle, and overcome together.
One of the most Beautiful responses and heart I have heard on this.
I remember someone saying “the oldest profession in human history is war, and the one it will end with is war.”
I've always heard prostitution is the oldest 😂
I thought it was prostitution
Being a thief I think is the oldest.
Prostitution is the oldest profession, warrior is the second
Wouldn’t by default hunting be the oldest profession tho? I’ve hear prostitution and war I’ve heard that before but 100% realistically the first thing the first human would have had to do was go find food…? Idk stoner thought
We're all guilty at any point of history. Pick a country, there's a story behind it.
underrated comments.
LMAO only a oppressor can say this shit
@@Aliballerevery nation, creed & color has been both the oppressor & the oppressed at one point in history..
@@Aliballer You need to read up on your world and National history, my friend.
@@Aliballeronly an uneducated clown could say what you said. Virtually all land on earth has been fought over. Get over it.
This "let me watch you while you watch the video and give fake reactions" trend gotta die
Nailed it. Corny.
I'm going to video me typing a comment to your comment about a let me watch you while you watch the video while I comment about the video.
Indeed. This is why i click on "dont recommend channel" which is exactly what im about to do.
why would it die? it made you interact with the video which then helps launch it even more into the algorithm 😂IT WORKED!
Seriously. I'm tired of taking them out of my recommendations.
And British kingdoms and clans fought with each other for centuries ...but when the Vikings came, the recognized them as foreign invaders. Same thing.
Funny thing is those British kingdoms were mostly invaders too
Huh, that is a very good point. Nice.
The Anglo Saxons came down from Scandinavia and invaded England and conquered the land. Only to have a new group of Scandinavians invade a couple hundred years later lol.
It's stolen
@@bradleybreslin945you forgot that the Romans came first and last of all the Norman's.
No one is saying there weren't horrible things done. What he is saying is Indians were doing the same thing to each other long before Europeans showed up. We were just better equipped and more numerous.
Two sides actually showed good arguements. Natives were barbaric, in war. Colonizers were deceitful.
This isn't the story of Native Americans and European colonists. It's the story of all humanity everywhere.
Native Americans fighting each other in America compared to Europeans genociding each other in Europe
My thought exactly, It's the story of humanity. No place is unique nor special when it comes to war and conquests.
you are sssooooo right 👍
I've been deep in researching hunan history as far back as has been recorded. Like you said, humans have been killing each other since it's inception. It's been a thorn in my heart since I watched the US fire bomb the jungles in Vietnam when I seen it on the news when I was 3 years old. Besides just raiding people's material goods snd land, the hatred of other people who didn't look or sound like them also littered humanity and history with millions of bodies. Killing just for fun. I've rejected all of that way of thinking.
I agree people fight among each other all the time, but this is the way they found to justify the sick twisted things they did.
The truth of the matter: History is never simple.
I will use this argument when you ask me why I'm robbing your house.
Hey, if I don't do it, someone else will.. Right 😂
@@jamesmichaeljean7840 Well, the Palestinians did try to steal all of Israel in 48.
@@kazekamiha palestine always been their land, never the jews, the whole world knows that. 😂
@@jamesmichaeljean7840 If you ignore the jewish people living there, who bought land and had that land acknowledged by the UN during the partition and was forced to defend their land over and over to a group of people who wanted it all and spent 75 years crying and whining as opposed to knowing when to cut their losses and move on.
Keep crying.
@@kazekamiha yes, we all know about how England gave the jews stolen land in the Balfour declaration.
How can someone gift others with stolen goods 😂 it's a crime to give or receive stolen goods. 😂
Can I rob you and sell your belongings on ebay?
Killing each other for survival at times did not mean they committed a massive genocide like they did by killing 90% of the natives
What world do you live on? Natives routinely committed mass genocide by killing all the adult males, enslaving the adult women and raising the children as members of capturing tribe. If you think that's not actual genocide, you need to get a dictionary.
@@LonesomeDove-dn8dk usually the winners make history but natives are professional victims so their history is a bunch of crying and failure.Boo hoo
Now the aliens will invade earth to conquer us so they can use the same argument 😂😂😂
If you ever feel useless, remember the guy on the bottom of this video exists.
😂😂😂 😮😮😂😂
Hahaha
What else is he gonna do with that green screen lmao
I’m pretty sure it’s for the fair use policy, he has to be there so the video doesn’t get copyrighted.
Correct, it's so yt considers it a reaction video & avoid copyright issues
If you ever feel useless, remember the guy on the bottom half of the screen exists.
Edit: Mom! I got 2,000 likes! Extra chimkin nuggies tonight!
Still not as useless as the unoriginal guy using this tired comment.
@@noaht5191is that you on the clip😂
Dude that's hilarious
We’ll stop when they stop
Yet we both have commented on his video. So we have both added to the algorithm giving him more views and money. So his purpose on the video isn't in fact useless
Now we work our whole lives away to live on a planet that should be free! Fantastic work guys!
Good point
Natives always say that land cannot be owned, but now it suddenly can because of reparations. Which is it?
The strongest always own the land. Read a history book.
As a Sioux Indian myself, I can say they both make good arguments. We were a very war-like people and always have been. We simply did what war-like people do. Just as European Tribes fought each other on their own continent. So we Natives fought each other. Human beings have always fought one another for one reason or another.
Me, being of "viking" heritage, also has to admit that my ancestors might not all have been heroes. But one thing I realize more and more, the common man do not want to fight in others conquests. But are forced or fooled into armies, big or small, for the gain of some few mighty men. This is a fact all trough history, and not at all less today. Always when a war is about, to whos gain? When a plague is about, to whos benefit? And if there are no need at the present, some are really good to find a way to create it, and fill it. While dancing around their golden calf of Mammon.
@@mathiasjohannesson9833This argument kind of falls apart when you read about what happens during the sacking of a city. Most of the time, you can’t keep the conquering soldiers from raping and looting and killing the innocents. Even if the commander of the army orders them not to do so, and kills men that are found doing it, you can’t prevent it.
And many of the earlier European tribes were conquered by the Romans and when the time came for the Empire to take a tumble (at least in Western Europe) new tribes like the Goths and Franks helped it along and took over the vacated imperial territories.
@@fireandiron4181yes you can lmao. Its been done in the past
@@mathiasjohannesson9833 Not really, going to war meant booty, it also meant promotion if you did well, eventually it could mean leadership.
How do you think those powerful people became powerful.
How do you think colonialism works?
its only the recent past where powerful people did not have to fight, politically and physically to keep their position of power.
To "better" yourself is as old as humans and even the animals do it today.
Native American here: he ain’t wrong.
Land is won in blood, and it’s always been that way. The moment you’re too busy or afraid to shed blood to keep it, you’ll slowly start to lose it.
True. Love the show. Amazing!
And we are now with this tyrant government we have😡🤬
Excellent comment
well said
@@routerider9542sad truth most people don't seem to remember. Every land was conquered at least once by some other group even if it wasn't done by an outside group.
There is no land that has not been taken from someone, I hate when I hear ’stolen land’ or ‘colonized’
So it's not stolen because it's stolen from people who stole it first?
Facts. I was raised on a reservation and I'm here to tell you that tribes have a hate for each other that goes back farther than recorded history. So do Asians but that's a different miniseries.
What's it got to do with us Asians. I don't hate anyone
And that's what makes us foolish Native Americans have so much hate and we take it out on each other. We need a common enemy and I'm set on making that enemy Red, White, and Blue.
@@TrippinCreatives - Eh, history? I've met and known Americans whose parents emigrated from Japan, Korea, Philippines, Hong Kong. The latter three peoples told me it was pretty clear within their families how there was no love lost for the Japanese. Wonder why...
@@user-wi9se5ll3j - Wow. Haven't learned much from history. I'll take those of whatever tribe/ethnicity/skin tone who believe in Love, we are all made in God's Image, shared values, and treating others-as-I-want-to-be-treated for 100, Alex.
@@machtnichtsseimann No God intrusted Natives with this land we had a connection with him and all the was takin away from us. So we must take it back, you walk on the graves of our proud soldiers and what's gonna stop us from doing the same to yours. The Vietnamese found a way and so shall we, I will burn in eternity in hell so that future kids will have that connection with God again.
As a Native American I’m on the side of the Colonel. This idea white liberals think we were just peaceful people living in perfect harmony singing Kumbaya is something they wish we were so they can have something to be upset about and feel morally superior than other people on. Well guess what that’s not what happened
We lost fair and square there’s always a bigger fish. Just like who knows maybe a bigger fish than the United States May conquer us at some point. Either way I’m proud to be an American and I’m proud to be a Native. I’m proud of BOTH. Stop being so offended for us
Lol! You got jacked homie. Fair and square.
I wholeheartedly agree with this. I will say the whole Indian schools affair was a really embarrassing part of our history but I think as compensation, seeking mutually beneficial business ventures and finding ways to help both our peoples prosper would wipe that slate clean. No use dwelling on the past, look towards the future and find ways to make tomorrow better than yesterday.
@@ramon2008dude literally said we lost fair and square
@@alecmoon8895 dawg it’s hollywood. You think this bullshit represents the opinion of the remaining Indian tribes? Lol. Whatever philosophy you use it’s obvious the Americans cheated and lied to acquire all this land. There was no conquest there was no glory. The Americans behaved like thieves and cheaters without honor. And even if they had conquered this land (which we’ve already established they didn’t), they took the most pristine land on planet earth and covered it with asphalt and McDonald’s. Every single thing and I mean EVERY single thing that Americans have done has been detrimental to everyone, including themselves.
Life goes on …
It still doesn't mean America wasn't stolen land though. In spite of whatever the natives may or may not have been doing to each other. They were at least natives.
That settles it, some white guys in a movie explained it all.
As a descendent* of the Maya, I'm always confused when people act like all natives were just passive hippies.
*spelling correction, friggin phone.
Your about as Mayan as a bowl of mayonnaise 😂
We not buying it
*descendent
It's the leftist white savior complex that tries to rewrite history.
Mayans were wild. Imagine if that nation still existed as it did then. People would scream about savagery.
I think what got really confused is how natives Treat their own tribes with respect or how they treat their treaties with respect Natives were excellent tradersIs that kind of grew the peaceful name
100% True! My family is Cree, and my Grandfather use to say “the English” were a Bigger and Stronger Tribe. Our people fought and we lost with Honor. Don’t Dis-Honor your family by crying about it.
Then fight back, they disrespect your ancestors all day. Hate is very powerful with us yet we take it out on each other, you think white if you don't want to fight, to kill, to be a savage animal.
Such a wise and manly admonition to leave for the family. Honorable men are few and far between, cherish his memory.
@@badgerrrlattin35 Unfortunately, we have weak people that allow EVERYTHING to bother them... claiming Racism, Sexism, Hurt Feelings, etc. If someone says something hurtful to you, say something hurtful back, but don't dwell on it... The irony is that other Tribes would have murdered us, but the English; let us join there society. You have a chance, take it!
Yet your peoples are gonna die out from how much of your culture has died and all the intermixing you guys are doing 😂
Greed isnt racist. Earth belongs to no man but the greedy.
The Indians were great warriors. They'd be pissed if they knew how they are depicted now.
Fighting over land and supplies is the oldest struggle known to man, and it is a man made struggle. We all could live peacefully but it is not in our nature.
How do you know that we could? We never have.
There definitely were peaceful tribes until they got fucked over
@@allaboutrap1 we lived peacefully as hunter gatherers, only fighting to protect family/tribe, not fighting over land because the land was not wanted permanently.
@@AnakinSANEhunting-gathering land is precious. They fought over that too.
@@Action2me they were more likely to move on than risk dying, they didn’t have the people to replace the dead like we do today. I suspect they would move on before fighting to the death over a bush.
That's the history of mankind. What we do now is what matters.
Well then history keeps repeating itself
gotta remember history or history just repeats, Your tought as a child not to play with fire, What if you forget that?
COPE COPE COPE
@@GeometricPidgeonwhat gave you the urge to let us know what you are doing?
Well if somebody repeat it in your home don't cry for justice, remember the quote
The Cherokee were at the bottom of the Totem Pole until they learned how to tame horses....then they rose above all their Enemies.
I think it’s awesome that all the ancient historical recordings are coming to light now, I’m even more impressed that they converted them to colour. Modern technology is brilliant and allows us to see these meetings from the past in full colour and not in black and when they were recorded. I recently watched a really long story with Napoleon in it, it was also remastered into colour and the quality was fantastic. The battles were very well recorded. I really hope they find even older recordings.
As a person who is half Chirachua Apache, I have said many times that my ancestors were not peaceful and often times fought other tribes long before Columbus crossed the sea, I have white friends who try talk down to me on how my ancestors were peaceful and they blow nonsense about the romanticized idea of happy and peaceful native Americans, where do people think the practice of scalping came from, or binding people up on an ant hill while cutting their eye lids of so that their brain can cook, this scene is as true as it gets here
What did the white fo bro no man wws peace full ,
False this whole scene is B.S Especially the characters that played it. Bunch of fake B.S 😂
@@djsevenone340Bro just told you about his ancestors and you say the things he said were false lmao.
@@djsevenone340The scene may be fake but it just tells you how to world operated during the time of imperialism. Taking land was important for a country to grow. It was conquered or be conquered during times in which imperialism was common.
Most people don't give two shits about whether or not the natives were peaceful. The argument of who the land belongs to stems from some people needing to be reminded that land is not a birthright. It's about the irony of descendants of immigrants telling new immigrants to go back to their land.
As a Cheroenhaka native, i was taught the land belongs to no one. The land belongs to the Earth. Just like we belong to the great spirit.
Idk where i heard this but im hearing it from you atm lol
🙏
No disrespect intended but it's really easy for someone who dosent own land to say no one owns it. Kinda like it's really easy for a homeless person to say that no one owns that persons home anyone can use it. The Native people fought and killed to keep other people out of their territory and were beaten back and killed off by others and moved on to other lands that they took from whoever was there. If you wanna say "Yeah but thats not ownership, then your just arguing semantics"
@@RogueDragon05 the native people, consists of over 400 different tribes. Not all 'the native people' acted, thought, and lived the same.
@@theycallme4799 "Not all 'the native people' acted, thought, and lived the same." I completely agree, I've pointed that very same thing out to others in this comment section. There were "norms" though and disputes over hunting rights, who can live where and the solution lying in violence rather then saying neither of us own the land was the norm. At the end of the day we are all here now together as one unity of nations and states and culture.
Even if it's stolen or not all land in some way was taken from another I'm proud to be an American
There is no such thing as "stolen land." All land everywhere is conquered land.
No person living comes from a society that didn't at one point kill for what they have. Human history is bloody. Trying to take a moral high ground for history is ridiculous.
yep. people really believe the anomalous time of peace we live in is totally normal for all of human history.
Before humanity started conquering each other we slaughtered all other sapiens, kill and take has been the way since our ancient ancestors invented war.
@@That-Guppy even now people forget the baseline authority of our governments come from the fact that they can kill us so we have to follow laws.
If your country had been stolen you wouldn't say that. Hypocrites
@@user-kq9vv5tj1u Yeah...because I'd probably be oppressed or dead???
Not just killing, but raping, torturing, and enslaving was common practice as well.
@@titoplasmaapt!
And the English, French, and Germans.
@@callyjoe164 Please, do not forget the Portuguese.
@@franciscojeronimo5881 almost forgot about the Russians, Spanish and Polish too!
@@callyjoe164no he was referring to the natives doing it to each other. Black africans did it to each other as well and sold what was a tiny portion of their population of slaves to white europeans who were leaving Europe for the Americans
Wow holy shit, a comment and replies that acknowledge that historically we are all the same. Almost like Humans are just naturally assholes to each other and will continue to be.
Either way Native Indians had the discrimination and racism in their pocket from the white man.
THE TRUTH IS: 🏹 The Clan of the cave Bears taught the natives how to make 🔥 fire/hunt/shelter/make arrows, spears/unite/communicate etc. Cavemen were colonized by the natives / without any reservations and went extinct, - I was told this story by a big foot who said their clan will never be like them and never socialize with humans EVER!
As a Mexican with probably native American blood . I don’t care enough to bother . As long as we live in peace now. Let the past die in the past
Glory to God
The Spanish conquered the Americas 95 years before the French, Dutch and English. That's why 32 of the 35 nations in the America's speak Soanish. The other 3 countries speak Portugese, French and English. The Spanish conquered the new world and established the Atlantic Slave Trade long before the British, French and Dutch came along.
That's my attitude
@@habibimaya you tripping buddy, the Spanish prohibited the indigenous slavery in 1500 only after 8 years of America was discovered. And If they speak Spanish in all that countries is because the Spanish actually treated that people as humans while you exterminated everyone, now you understand why they don’t speak English, because where you went there was no more of “they” ,you killed them. Good try trying to spread the black legend against Spain , but you will remain the biggest genocides of the history. Spain did schools , hospitals and universities to that people , and gave them the same rights as someone from Spain. You are literally brain washed, but as they say, it’s easily to lie to a man than make him realize he was lied. Now learn to point urself at a map. It doesn’t matter how much you try to twist the reality, it is what it is
But we don’t live in peace at all, conflicts are going down all the time, America itself is divided between its people, and mass shootings are damn near a daily occurrence.
All land is taken from someone at some point in history. None of us are innocent. There, now we can be friends.
this is the story of white ppl trying to justify themselves 😂🤣
Facts hurt feelings man. Lol people don't like that this was just how the world was.
Got that Doc Holiday vibe from this comment. 😂
***Puts guns down on table***
"There, now we can be friends again."
@@user-rp6cv1mr2lyou missed the part where it has to be taken by force. By all means try to take someone's house by force and see how it goes.
@MrSilvertech bro what are you talking about 🤣
Cowards always try to justify what they do instead of admitting that they're wrong 😂
Wherever they did still real Americans , so they did still the land from them.
Fact.
Native Americans- no man owns this land
Also native Americans- you stole our land 😂😂
Doesn't matter who owns the land - We all end up buried underneath it
That's a good quote.
the sad part is that most of us cant even be buried on our own land.
@@cathyt144legally
😂😂 very True lmaof
Well said
As a half Yaqui.
I've heard the same stories.
No land is anyones land.
It's fought and won. Not by white men or red. But by men themselves.
Edit: I didn't mean to start a debate. Don't stand on anyone's shoulders and call yourself tall. We all know what life is like. And unfortunately we are here on YT arguing about it.
It's fought and won?! How deluded you are my friend
@@waqzh6128he aint deluded at all. Every but of land owned by tribes/countries were fought for. Land belongs to the victor, thats what history shows. Maybe you should tale a history class.
@@HuckleberryisonYTland belongs to no man brother. A lack of self knowledge is why this world has been this way. Once you truly realize that this whole world is everyone’s home then there can peace on this realm
@mr.warrioro3172 then the Muslims can move to the millions of miles of mulim land and should not fight to live among the isreali people....... wait that's standards and with out double standards you have none. Modern day Baby beheader slaver swine.
@@Mrwarrioro Whatever unreality dream world you live in must be a nice place.
There is a big difference between "taking something", and "stealing something". 🤷♂️
This clip is pure....shite
All land is stolen at some point in time. Shit happens. get over it
I’m Native American and he’s right we’re human and we fight and the strong win which is what happened when the white man came
Yeah totally normal and warranted to commit genocide, rape and steal. you’re right 🤦♂️ my country Ireland was much the same before English invasion, we were a land that fought against each other constantly in tribes up until there was a common enemy in the English. Just because you’re more advanced than another land doesn’t give you the right to take all there stuff for your own gain and enslave the people. It’s like saying r*pe is okay because that’s been happening throughout history anyway. That’s so stupid, no oppressed person would say that. clearly you must be white as a ghost not Native American as you claim.
Don’t believe the white mans lies
Before the white man came, he made a funny face.
A few hundred years before the Spanish, English the Vikings arrived, the only reason they didn’t stay is because they had the same kind of weapons as the natives ( bow and arrows and spears).
@@kumabear3529Im pretty sure 1000-1200 weapons are not only spears and arrows
As a Mexican American I think we should all be thankful for this country.
As a naturalized American from Mexico, I am thankfull for a country that fought its way to this point in history. Now, the fight is to reign it back from self-destruction.
Amen, Brother.
As an AMERICAN, I am thankful for this land and the people in it. Our bullshit politics don’t define the people who call this place home 🇺🇸
@@RobertoGallarzo
If Indigenous PEOPLE didn't fight
You wouldn't be here either
-COMANCHE NATION
@@ThyRisky
So when are the lands being returned to Indigenous PEOPLE
-COMANCHE NATION
It’s Hollywood . Need I say more?
Hollywood will tell you anything you wish to hear
Italians playing natives is just weird af and offensive
Why?
I dont care.
@@BigBillsBadDeals it is cause they arent my people we arenr white
As a native of the Creek Nation, I can say this is accurate. Tribes also had slaves. It was a brutal time for sure, but not all tribes were as violent as others. There was war.
I think the point that’s trying to be made is that all civilizations have problems, and at one time have done gravely immoral things. No-one, not even the natives are exempt. The fairytale that the natives were a perfect and sinless people living in perfect harmony is an indefensible and almost laughable claim. (My family has both white and native roots by the way)
Also, I don’t understand why we have to talk like this still affects us, you’d think 400-500 years would be enough time for us to get over this shit.
Some of my ancestors were Caddo Indians. They were all either wiped out by Comanche or assimilated with the whites in east Texas in the late 1800s
Its happening again between government and citizens they are creating propaganda to make us hate each other for distraction so they can further their agenda without us watching them
@@noname91784Making excuses for genocide proves you aren’t native, so don’t speak on matters not pertinent to you.
"You stole my land"
"Skill issue"
Turkey and Greece in a nutshell
😂
they had homefield advatange and still lost 😭
Git gud
@@MissCleo24 womp womp
All land is stolen. The mere fact we separate and categorize ourselves by invisible lines on the land is baffling. When you wanted something back in the day, you took it, by force. Every race and ethnicity is guilty of this.
"This is the truth not legend" When you try to explain something to someone religious 😅
Absolute truth. We took the land from people who took the land from other people. The whole world was settled like this.
The whole world - by the evils of the white man... (so called white man - demonic)
Y’all used small pox blankets on us though, and caused the biggest genocide the world has ever seen by almost making my people go extinct from your greed. The whole world doesn’t put horrible viruses on things and send them to countries, as it’s seen as some of the worst things you can do in war. Quit lying and giving your pos ancestors a break for slaughtering my people, all while raping our women. That’s ok though in your mind
I agree with you about this try and find the soldiers blue movie
Yet, it is still the path of huge suffering. Your mother, father, sibling, friends, cousins and all have to go through suffering in each huge war. Taking people land is not something to be taken lightly. It is the virus within human that was uncontrollable and wanted to destroy itself and man kind.
This is not about who at fault or blaming Like what this video implies at all, this is just two men talking at their problems, but a world war is something terrible you wish will never happened. It is real not from movie and if you experience war once, you will never accept this easily. It all terrible in whichever war it is.
At this point in humanity, all land is basically stolen from someone at some point.
Indian and chinese are always the native people not refugees or invaders
Lol, tard take. L
@@shirokun4742what delusional fantasy did you read?
The India and Chinese land before what it is today consist of hundreds if not thousands of tribes, ethic groups and independent states.
They have been waging wars for thousands of year, conquering each other, dynasties after dynasties.
@@shirokun4742how are they native if they walked from Asia ?
That’s like saying people that cut down trees are stealing homes of the birds that live in them. Just because you put a flag on a piece of grass doesn’t make it yours.
The big difference is that Native Americans did not conquer an existing population and take their land from them; their ancestors crossed the Bering Land Bridge into two uninhabited continents, somewhere between 13,000 and 35,700 years ago. So they were here first and were here alone for thousands of years.
Also, using the fact that they warred as well as some sort of blanket absolution justifies any and all wars of aggression as simply "might makes right." Is that really what everyone believes? We're also leaving out the fact that for decades the US did more than wage a war of conquest - it waged a war of genocide.
Nope we took it just like the various Indian tribes did from each other. We should stop saying we are sorry for that. We took the land because we could and we needed it.
"If you steal a land, you're a noblemen. If you steal a pig, you're a criminal" -Danish folksong
"Steal an apple and you're a theif. Steal a country and you're a statesman" -Jafar
Not stealing lol. You’re clearly uneducated. You prolly say “why do we even need to learn history why does the past matter”
They came and won. Losers keep malding.
Whites didn't start the conflict among natives, they ended it.
So the tribes who conquered other tribes were statesmen?
*shrugs* ask Jafar
@@liamrmorgans921 the difference is that Native Americans got all rounded up and killed off to the point where there aren't any left. How the fuck is that justified at all? Because they weren't peaceful ,so we can just cause borderline extinction of an entire genetic lineage of humanity from the ENTIRE western hemisphere. How can you compare that to any Indian war? Was EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TRIBE at war? Were they all blood thirsty animals? Fuck no
Yeah tribal warfare maaaan
As a Indian… I approve this message… both sides of it
The fact most people don't get this really says a lot about the state of the educational system. Ultimate human lesson being, humans kind of suck
Move on
Tell us you're white and lying without telling us you're white and a liar.
@@beepbop-012it's a video about natives, they obviously mean American indians
Ok 5 dollar.. 😂😂🤦🏾♂️
Yes it is, and the fact some people still treat native Americans like this today is vile and disgusting