@@janetuss6496 I'm both hip-hop head and metalhead. i listen to lots of Wu-Tang, Joyner, The LOX, Onyx, etc and also lots of The Devil Wears Prada, Lorna Shore, AILD, Fit for a King, etc. Oh, I'm a big BlackPink fan too, the only Kpop I listen to. I also recently got into listening to IU, she's phenomenal!
@@marlogwapo oh man, if you're a hiphop head, there's A LOT of BTS songs for you! Their hiphop-heavy work is not promoted in the mainstream unfortunately, but hiphop is actually their roots, they originally started as a hiphop group and that genre is one of their fortes. A lot of BTS songs sound very old-school, like reminiscent of 80s/90s/2000s hiphop and RnB songs. 2 of their rappers RM and Suga were actually well-known underground rappers prior to BTS. Their 3rd rapper J-Hope was a trained hiphop dancer prior to BTS. The 3 of them are particularly well-versed and knowledgeable in hiphop, especially old-school hiphop. The 3 of them are also the primary songwriters and producers for BTS - they have a heavy hand in a vast bulk of BTS songs, and at the very least, they write their own parts. RM has expressed that people who call themselves rappers should write their own lyrics (not all rappers in the kpop industry write their own lyrics). RM and Suga even write/produce for other artists outside of BTS and Suga has won an award for producing. RM and Suga also write solo songs for their own BTS vocalists. I like Blackpink and IU a lot too 😊 I've been following korean music since the mid 2000s, so I would say I know quite a bit about it haha. BTS is a very special group, well-worth your perusal especially if you like hiphop! Blackpink girls are extremely top notch performers, I know a lot about them and have followed them since their debut. But unfortunately they are not trained songwriters and producers like the BTS rappers are. The ladies have written a few lyrics here and there, but generally speaking they do not make their own music. Their company also does not give them much creative and artistic freedom, unlike BTS's company. Blackpink songs are great pop songs, but they do not come close to the depth of artistry that BTS songs have. Which is unfortunate, because I think Blackpink is so talented but their artistic potential is very restricted. The artistry and creativity of BTS songs cover way more depth. I mean, they even got a song called 134340 that is about Pluto being demoted as a planet (they use it as a metaphor for other things of course). The discovery of the dwarf planet Eris is essentially what prompted the reclassification of Pluto, the lyrics mention Eris. BTS has also risked their careers a few times by making political critical songs (in Korea, artists aren't as free to do that as they would in America. They risk getting banned, blacklisted or otherwise targeted by people in power). Also BTS also does many more musical genres other than pop. They even got neo-soul songs. I'll give you some recs for their hiphop heavy work below, but just wanna mention that BTS made an album called Map Of the Soul 7 based on the works of the famous psychiatrist Carl Jung, the founder of analytical psychology. Their song Black Swan is on that album, it's about an artist's fear of losing passion for their craft, or fear of not being able to pursue their craft one day, for one reason or another. The song was written based on a quote from a famous dancer: "a dancer dies twice, once when they stop dancing, and this first death is the more painful.” The film Black Swan with Natalie Portman also served as inspiration. On that same album, the 3 rappers each have a solo rap song presenting different Jungian concepts: Persona by RM, Shadow by Suga, Ego by J-Hope. Also, I feel like I should point out the difference between learning how to rap for songs, and being a rapper rapper with the background, and vast skills and knowledge of hiphop. I really love Jennie and Lisa, they are extremely talented, but the honest truth is that they are not at the level of rappers that the BTS rappers are at. If you throw Lisa and Jennie into a real underground rap battle, they wouldn't be able to do it. Prior to BTS, RM had already developed a reputation for demolishing underground rappers, and he was only 15/16 years old at the time. A lot of rappers in kpop receive their lyrics from songwriters and learn how to rap it very well for songs and for the style, but the hiphop skill and knowledge does not run in their blood and soul like it does for the BTS rappers. Because RM and Suga started out in the underground rap scene, there's a big difference between them and kpop rappers who were molded within the kpop industry. If you explore the hiphop-heavy work of BTS, you will be able to see the difference. The BTS song Hip Hop Lover is them paying homage to hiphop, their lyrics reference a lot of the most influential MC rappers, DJs, and producers that shaped hiphop in the 80s and 90s, as well as some legendary rap albums too. If you're not well-versed in the golden age of hiphop, you might not be able to catch all their references. Here's a live performance: th-cam.com/video/a_3KCRAYAFQ/w-d-xo.html And BTS also made their own rendition of Born Sinner by J. Cole, their version is called Born Singer. It's one of their rap-heavy songs. Here's a live performance: th-cam.com/video/8cUQ3lF3_O8/w-d-xo.html Their 3 rappers also have their own sub-unit where they do rap songs together. Check out their Cyphers #1 - #4, they made those in response to the criticism and hate they were getting, particular from the underground rappers and hiphop community in korea. RM and Suga were particularly targeted because they had left the underground scene to join BTS. No music vids, but there's lyric vids (though heads up, lyric vids usually don't have the best translations, check the website doolsetbangtan if you want more accurate translations and explanations for wordplay). And here is a live performance where they performed shortened versions for the first 3 Cyphers and then did the entire 4th Cypher: th-cam.com/video/FT930XF1vzA/w-d-xo.html Another great song from their 3 rappers is Outro: Tear. Here's a famous live performance of it, this is one of my favorite songs from BTS: th-cam.com/video/UDuaJGYe8EQ/w-d-xo.html The rappers wrote Outro: Tear during a time a few years ago when BTS was going through a lot of hardships and they were considering disbanding. Since the guys have been working and living together since their teens, they are close like blood brothers and the thought of disbanding to them was literal heartbreak. So the rappers wrote this song for the other members. But generally speaking, a lot of BTS lyrics that revolve around love are written so that they can be applied to many things depending on the listener, like platonic friendships, family relationships, romantic love, the relationship you have with yourself, the relationship you have with your craft, etc. Sometimes BTS songs about love are actually directed at their fans too. The 3 rappers also each wrote/produced their own rap solo mixtapes. RM has 2 mixtapes. Suga has 2 mixtapes, he goes by his alter ego Agust D for his mixtape work. J-Hope has 1 mixtape. They spent millions of dollars to make their rap solo work and released all their songs for free - they have a true passion for music, especially rap, it's not about the money. I do suggest going in order of release for their mixtapes, but here are some suggestions to start you off: - Joke by RM - Monster by RM - Do You by RM (Here's a live performance of Monster: th-cam.com/video/F58BMdl0ezg/w-d-xo.html ) - Agust D by Agust D - Daechwita by Agust D - The Last by Agust D - Daydream by J-Hope - Baseline by J-Hope (John Cena's fav J-Hope song) - Airplane by J-Hope J-Hope's song 1 Verse samples the beat from El Chapo by The Game. J-Hope also paid $2.7 million to the original artist to re-make the popular 2000s hiphop song Chicken Noodle Soup by Webstar and Young B, and released his version for free, as a gift to fans. He did it just to pay homage to his own hiphop dancing roots, as CNS was one of the first songs he danced to when he started learning as a kid. Sorry for bombarding you with SO much info, I actually have many more BTS hiphop songs to recommend cause they got sooo many, but I think this is quite a lot already haha sorry! If you want more recs, feel free to ask though. I do highly recommend you check out a music reaction channel Anthony Ray, he's a rapper from Belgium. Prior to doing reactions to BTS music, he mainly only did reactions to hardcore western rap music like NF, Tom, Harry Mack, Tech N9ne, etc (he later started a 2nd channel called Rap Catalog for those rap reactions). He was initially very skeptical of getting into BTS cause he had a lot of pre-conceived notions about them, but he was suggested to start with their rap heavy stuff and it won him over. His first BTS reaction was Daechwita by their rapper Agust D. I think that was like 9 months ago or so? I suggest starting from that video and watching his BTS reactions in chronological order. You can explore BTS with him, he's very intelligent and good at breakdowns, and he's very knowledgeable about hiphop/rap.
@@marlogwapo Ok really sorry for writing a 2nd reply, I forgot you mentioned being a metal-head too. BTS doesn't have any strictly metal songs, BUT RM has a rap song on his first mixtape called Throw Away, it's got a very metal-like instrumental. He once performed it at a hiphop music festival called All Force One where he was invited to be a headlining artist, here is the part where he performed Throw Away: th-cam.com/video/4vC3FN6ROcQ/w-d-xo.html I'll link you the clip to RM's whole All Force One hiphop performance that I just mentioned, he did a few rap songs from his own mixtape. And he had also brought Suga and J-Hope with him as guests, so the 3 of them also performed snippets of a few BTS songs. The set list is in the description, in case you wanna know what songs they performed: th-cam.com/video/ZzQ9Z0RAQ8Q/w-d-xo.html Also, not sure if you like Limp Bizkit or not, but BTS once did a cool dance cover to Spaz by Krizz Kalico and Rollin' by Limp Bizkit: th-cam.com/video/S1Up-ZzHmuw/w-d-xo.html Even if you don't like those songs, it's still a very cool dance performance imo haha. Also, just wanna mention there's a BTS neo-soul song that is nearly universally liked, no matter what genre you prefer. Even hiphop heads who only like hardcore rap usually like this song. It's called Singularity, a solo song by their vocalist V. The primary songwriter is RM, he wrote it specifically with V in mind. And he based the lyrics off a book called The Singularity is Near, which is about A.I and the future of humans. Apparently it's a rather deep and complicated book haha. Here's the music vid: th-cam.com/video/p8npDG2ulKQ/w-d-xo.html Also, BTS's dancing is top of the game, they could be a world-class professional dance crew if didn't make music. They are very versatile and can do many styles, but they are particularly good at hiphop style dancing. Here are some of their cool dance practice videos to their own songs: - Mic Drop Dance Practice: th-cam.com/video/eRkpkveBWyo/w-d-xo.html - Dionysus Dance Practice: th-cam.com/video/bccr1BwNI0Y/w-d-xo.html - Danger Dance Practice: th-cam.com/video/vJwHIpEogEY/w-d-xo.html - Baepsae Dance Practice: th-cam.com/video/gdUQ7GS7JXU/w-d-xo.html - Blood, Sweat and Tears Dance Practice: th-cam.com/video/v8z1TtlY1no/w-d-xo.html - Black Swan Dance Practice: th-cam.com/video/fTS1jAhWPbw/w-d-xo.html - Fire Dance Practice: th-cam.com/video/sWuYspuN6U8/w-d-xo.html - Their 3 best dancers also have their own sub-unit called 3J where they do harder choreography dances, mostly hiphop style. Here's a clip of them practicing and choreographing to songs from other artists: th-cam.com/video/ZVBciTIAUGs/w-d-xo.html Here is 3J doing a short dance cover to Megan Thee Stallion's verse in their Butter remix: th-cam.com/video/IkeZX2hnoOk/w-d-xo.html
I'm not Army but they never forgive ignorance. Korean rappers who hated on BTS back when they debuted, calling them sell-outs and women for wearing makeup, are still clowned by Army to this day. And that was almost ten years ago.
I don't consider myself Army but Spring Day, Not Today, and Mic Drop are part of my permanent playlist. I don't consider myself a VIP but lots of Big Bangs music is on my top 100 list. BTS is extremely talented.
They really don’t. When they got wind of the news that B-Free got arrested (assaulting a fellow rapper over a Twitter argument) around the time Suga released his second solo project, they were clowning on him hard with the catchphrase “Karma is an ARMY”.
You know it. Be Free was trolling them. Cypher 2 is addressed to Be Free. The guys were ambushed during that radio show. They were told they were invited because they had achieved something, but instead RM and Suga had to listen to Be Free try to humiliate them. They were so polite while listening to hate. I haven’t heard from Be Free in years.
No, I disagree….they can forgive ignorance since being ignorant of something means “ lack of knowledge or information” BTS will ignore this hate filled toxic jealous human being because he is not worth their time or effort and never will be. He can dislike their music and performances but without a reason or just cause this guy just makes himself look like a first class xenophobic arrogant jerk…..
Yeah. B-Free didn't stay so free, did he? Unfortunate rap name choice. With ARMY numbering in the millions (I can't keep up), you know a percentage of those fans now have Budden firmly on their radar.
Drake really not my cup of tea but he does have some good hits before the “high light bling “. Anyways everybody else yes like damn BTS is top tier and Eminem hating on those two is crack central enough and he have a Twitter? They going ham.
Oh shit! The BTS army is about to tear into Joe. I'm not a BTS fan, but I respect what they do, and know the MASSIVE amount of followers that they have.
@@jornavyr2459 Nah Stans are way worse than K-pop fans. K-pop fans will go "You're disrespectful, you don't know them" with some angry emojis but stans will tear him apart lol
Hilarity ensues. Firstly, did not know this "joe" existed but ok. Secondly, he used that "china" thing knowingly; biggest insult to a Korean is to be called chinese or japanese. Thirdly, I'm assuming he didn't have a problem with Silk Sonic performing and winning three grammys. Well, guess what Anderson Paak is, yup, Korean. His mother is of part Korean heritage and born in South Korea. And guess what else? His wife is full Korean all the way from South Korea which makes his children more Korean than this never-been can handle. Lastly, Paak is a Korean last name and Anderson refers to himself not as "blasian" but "niggerean". and he's darn proud of it.
What makes it particularly sad and annoying when some creative or person related to the music world slanders BTS for no reason, is the fact that the BTS are nothing but honest competitors, good sports, respectful to their influences, generous with their praise, and even constantly promote other artists. They carry themselves with humility and kindness. They treat their craft with love and professionalism. And they mind their own bussiness. But I guess some people can't control their envy.
Beautifully said. The hater-for-no-reason type are simply jealous of the massive success and adoration BTS has earned. Period. I couldn't care less what Budden thinks.
To those who think that armys are just teen girls , actually 70% of fandome is 20 to 70 yo and major age is around 30 to 50 . All this success wouldn't be just with teen audiences since bts concert and their products , selling out anything they touch, raising monney for charity donations, building hospitals and much more things what armys do on boys birthdays wouldn't be possible with teens only as main fandome. So plz yall do some research.
I know right haha. Just looking at audiences in vlogs or fancams of BTS concerts and you can literally see the demographics. Plus the number of BTS reaction videos on TH-cam are only slightly more skewed to women.
@@JesusOurLordandSavior I'm 67 and became ARMY 9 years ago!!! And they always Surprise me when they a have a NEW song "Release" and it's like how do they do that every time!!! BTS ARMY TEXAS!!!
As Black ARMY let me say BTS and ARMY donated over $2 million dollars to Black Lives Matter to help prevent cops from beating Joe Budden like a runaway slave. What have Joe Budden contributed to our (Black) community except failed rap music that few people hardly remember.
🤣 You Betta Preach! 70yrs young Black Grandmother.. *Jersey Girl!* & *Army!* I Found BTS 6/2021 While on YT Watching Someone *Tickled Singing* to *Bruno Mars/Silk Sonics* "Leave the Door Open!" I Stopped, *Who Was This Kid!?* *It Was Jungkook!* And *Everyday* 🤗🤣 *I Watch Their Vids!* & *Listen To Their* 🎶 *Music! *Lmao* *I Swear I Can Sing In Korean!* *Almost* 🤣 3/21 My 62yo Sis got Covid/Gave it to Me! She held on 1Mo! ⚘ I Was SAD! *Then* *Happiness Came* From *Talented!* *Caring!* *Sharing!* *Humble!* *Humans!* 🎶 *Armyeee's* 🎶 Stay🙏Safe! *Watching from New⚘Jersey, USA 😎
@@melvaburke2608 Ms. Melva, I'm so terribly sorry to hear of your unthinkable loss. Sending you strength and love. I was told for decades what I was "supposed" to listen to (or not listen to). I listen to everything I please. Please continue to enjoy all of the things you love and let them lift you up as you lift up others. 💌 from the Bay Area.💐🎶
BTS isn't really for me but I respect what they're doing in their lane. I know there's an audience for that stuff. Budden's latter career has been pretty much hating on any and every artist bigger than him.
@@nishant2784 Then you should check out Cyphers, 90’s style rap. You never know if you don’t listen. Outro Tear, Never Mind, and Ugh. This is coming from someone who used to hate rap. They changed my view on hip hop because their lyrics are so deep, and not consist of all cursed words in the whole song.
Hilarity ensues. Firstly, did not know this "joe" existed but ok. Secondly, he used that "china" thing knowingly; biggest insult to a Korean is to be called chinese or japanese. Thirdly, I'm assuming he didn't have a problem with Silk Sonic performing and winning three grammys. Well, guess what Anderson Paak is, yup, Korean. His mother is of part Korean heritage and born in South Korea. And guess what else? His wife is full Korean all the way from South Korea which makes his children more Korean than this never-been can handle. Lastly, Paak is a Korean last name and Anderson refers to himself not as "blasian" but "niggerean". and he's darn proud of it.
I've listend to Western music all my life and never paid attention to KPOP, but a few monhts ago I gave it a try(mainly BTS). If you can used to the cultural differences and see the talent and hard work they provide, then you can see why they're so popular. Everyone has their own tatse in music, but what I noticed is that a lot of people make assumptions and make racist comments because they're asian and they do things differently. People like Budden only want attention, negative or positive.
@@WE__BTS well I guess kpop these days is just the general term for the industry itself and not necessarily a genre. But pop just means popular so it isnt wrong either right ? ;)
I've been a BTS fan since 2015, they have been hustling for 10 years trying to make it and it's amazing for me to see how far they've come. They be minding their own business but they keep having people coming for them unprovoked, and it's messed up. You can say you don't feel them and their music that's your opinion but to say you HATE someone for NO REASON, is childish as hell.
Same I was a big fan of BTS back in 2015, I dropped out of the fandom a few years later but I it’s annoying that the criticism was not even based in substance.
My daughter is a die hard BTS fan. I was skeptical at first but after listening to "Mic Drop" there was no way I could not admit that they are an insanely talented group regardless if I did not have a clue what they were saying through half of the song. The beat and their dance moves were off the charts. Just because they are not something I would listen to on a regular basis does not mean they are not insanely talented and deserve respect as musicians.
As a BTS Army for 6 years, reading these comments really touched my heart. We’ve been dealing with a lot of hate recently, with famous people, haters, media, trolls coming for us. I really appreciate the respect even tho its the bare minimum but its hard to find these days. Respect and being open minded is what we really ask from society. Thank you so much for not being prejudiced i hope you all have a great day. Borahae 💜💜💜
Joe was out of line. If you’ve heard the name BTS, you know darn well that it’s Kpop. It’s mentioned in every single English article about them. To call them Chinese (especially with the tone he used. To me it sounded like he knew they weren’t Chinese and was using Chinese as an insult, which is disgusting) and to say you dislike their music without any reason as to why (other than it probably being because they’re Korean artists from Korea who predominantly sing in Korean) is simply uncalled for. You don’t have to like BTS or their music. Thats perfectly fine. But to discredit or disregard them and their hard work is unnecessary. I was a BTS fan (A Kpop fan since 2009) long before they blew up. Almost all of the members came from poverty and struggled like hell to make it. They were treated poorly in Korea at first (for years). Called nugu (nobodies) and mocked over their appearance, seemed to have been physically abused by their old staff (video of Taehyung being shoved and a staff almost punching Jungkook (who was like 15 or 16 years old at the time) and verbally threatening him), starved (Jin mentioned how they had practically no food), and were treated horribly by MCs on shows and so much more. If you want to talk about underdogs who struggled to make it, look no further than BTS. They came from absolutely nothing into being the biggest boy group in the world (not speaking English or using English originally to boot, aside from Namjoon). You have to at least put some respect on that. Especially seeing how heavily involved they are in their music (not with their English releases which is understandable). They’ve worked their a**es off and have earned their success. Nothing was handed to them. I’ve never even heard of this Joe guy but after doing some digging it seems that all he does is pick fights with those more talented and successful than he is. Laughable if you ask me. Makes sense he would go after BTS considering how popular they are right now. Thank you so much for at least being open minded toward BTS and respectful. And thank you for standing up for them regarding this issue.
BEING THREATED SO BADLY AND THEN KNOWING THAT THEY GAVE UP SO MUCH TO BE WHERE THEY ARE TODAY! They could not see their Families but maybe once a Year! Being I so young you need your Family to help you stay strong! They only had each other to do that. So they became their own Family that's why they are so close to each other! It broke my heart to know that! BTS ARMY TEXAS.
As a hiphop fan who fell in love with the hiphop aspects of BTS’ music, I really don’t care about who doesn’t like them or not, that has nothing to do with me lol. There’s tons of artists I don’t like and that’s ok. It’s when you feel the need to get your point across by being ignorant for no reason that’s so weak and unnecessary. But this isn’t the first time somebody came for BTS unprovoked and it won’t be the last, that’s why the guys never retaliate. It’s not worth the energy!✌🏾
@@SilverFang95 Yes I watched some of their other performances and became a fan. To be fair I never really hated them just thought some of their fans on Twitter were annoying
I wasn't a fan, even when Dynamite, Butter was out. Then my friends told me to watch their Outro: Tear Wembley performance. And hot damn I was sold....
@@jfprizzy You will be more impressed if you know the story behind that song. Suga created when the boys were going through a tough time physically and mentally, and they were thinking about disbandment. They all cried together when listening to this song the first time together. This song means a lot to the fans because it saved them from disbanding.
Exactly!! Everything you said. I’m a 52yo old K-AMRY (BTS fandom) from Korea. Thank you for your vlog. I’ve watched your BTS reactions from the beginning and you’ve always showed respect for the guys! You’re awesome. We got mad respect for you!
At least the people on the podcast with him told him straight up, "If you don't have a reason (for hating them), that's disgusting." There's definitely a reason; even the shittiest reason is still a reason. Admitting racism, admitting xenophobia, saying, "They look like girls", etc are all shitty reasons but they're still reasons... Like many have said, it's fine to have different tastes, but to say you hate someone/something, there's gotta be a reason behind that. If people who dislike BTS actually knows about the meaning behind their music and the things they do, I'm pretty sure most of them can at least commend them for their work and/or the effort they put behind it. Personally, I don't quite like hearing people say, "You can't say/do this because their fans will come after you." I mean, I get it, but I would rather hear someone's honest opinion over something fake, but the least we ask is for said opinion to have respectable choice of words.
I am a baby army. It took me so long because I was not a kpop fan BUT when I found BTS at my lowest and was healed I know in my heart that these boys can be a big influence to my students. So, as of today, I used BTS speech esp RM (love yourself campaign) their music because that's what teenagers have to learn. I used BTS to influence them, to encourage them to be a better person. These 7 bangtans are down to earth, pure, kind and respectful millionaires. How about Joe Budden what is his contribution to the youth of today.?
Respect to you as a fellow educator. I was a teacher for 36 years. I played KPop videos in my classroom, during lunch. You should have seen all the kids that came and became ARMY! They're probably responding to Budden, rn! 😂
BTS rappers could rip Joe apart lyrically. I listened to Joe's songs and was underwhelmed. I expected more from him. Joe is too ignorant to look at who he is dealing with. BTS are known for their lyricism.
@@faktiman381 if u haven’t listened to bts rap line then ur opinion is invalid, they have a whole series of diss songs, two of the members were underground rappers, educate yourself before u talk
@@faktiman381 nah. Some of the lads started out rapping. Some songs are corny that's true. But some songs are fire. And much more intricate than Buddens.
I hate Budden and I am against him hating on BTS but they aren't touching Budden lyrically. He's a clown but his lyricism is too slept on. I'll prolly get hate from the army but I'm just stating the facts. Budden is corny af irl but on the mic, he's vicious.
When Eminem hated on boy bands he at least gave a reason. Joe is just doing whatever he can to catch headlines. And you said it perfectly he is the biggest disappointment in Hip Hop ever. Is narcissism outright killed what made him special and destroyed all his friendships.
🤣😂 thinking Joe owes you a reason for his opinions is the goofiest energy ever. Boy bands are soulless trash especially these cringe Korean backstreet boys
Eminem was referring to western boybands and he probably was right. BTS not really a boyband though so whatever Em said did not apply to them. I am both an Eminem and BTS fan. They have much in common..
Exactly and tbh the reason Eminem, to me, talked about boy bands was the fakeness, they don't write the songs/music or lyrics. The lyrics have no depth, the constant rhyming love and above and such 😅 obviously him and many others have no respect for that. And from what I hear about bts is they write all their own shit, it has positive messages, they worked hard and didn't have everything handed to them.
@@44LillPuffin Exactly this. All these Eminem mentions about boybands are true for the western ones and most of kpop ones. BTS is the exception because they started from the bottom and received so much hate for it and still do. They still have medium 3 companies in SK trying to destroy them along with their groups psychotic fans and the western industry hates them as well because they are poc and succeeding without their approval as well. BTS are true artists and cannot really be described as a boyband more like a male group. And they are different from kpop groups and western ones because they begun as a hip hop group and still their discography covers every genre of music. Also they talk about sociopolitical issues, and their work is inspired by literature and other form of art as well as psychology. They have a lot in common with Eminem in fact. And Eminem is one of the inspirations and artists BTS's rapline admires and are a fan of.
@@pennybleta9721 true he ain't a bad guy and ngl he was right about it while bts they haven't done anything wrong so idk wtf is wrong with people just hating on someone who are just minding their own business and doing their stuff🤦🏼♀️
I ain't a BTS guy, but judging by how many damn BTS reactions Knox does they are HUGE and crazy popular.....Joe just loves clout and drama and bullshit
@@minsugamaxsalt Knox Hill.. He's a Hip-Hop head reaction TH-camr and he does all kinds of reactions.. And by far one of THE BEST lyric breakdown TH-camrs out there, I kid you not.. Plus, he himself is one amazing rapper and MC.. So, do check him out.. Dude's freaking awesome..
@@katsuranotzura372 If Joe had to do half his bars in Korean (or any language other than English) = nah. He could never. He's just a bitter has-been (who never really was)... 🤷♀️
@@jerseybultaoreune6107 why would joe do his bars in korean when that is not his own language 🤦♀️ a bitter has been but i dont think anyone from bts could outrap him
BTS has only ever had public beef with one artist, with was 8-9 years ago and we got some of the juiciest diss tracks from BTS, in the form of the cypher series, that are still extremely popular to this day. And that one artist that talked shit about them? yea, his entire career was ruined and he even got sent to jail :'D
Lmao true. I love that BTS only checked b free and responded to his bullshit because they knew him personally. They don’t waste time on people who they’ve never even met or heard of
Ah, yes. And we got to traumatised thate bitch on twitter when be was released from prison also, since it was right as McD has their BTS meal. Good times!!
It’s fine to not like the music, to each their own. But to “hate” them is harsh, esp for no reason. They’ve worked hard for what they have and you gotta respect that at least. Problem is people want to hate without knowing their facts.
I'm a metalhead who's been improving my hip hop ears and knowledge since Kamikaze where I started digging into the genre. But I love K-Pop too. I'm very picky with the groups and songs, but the list I have on Spotify I constructed after literally dedicating a whole afternoon going down the K-Pop rabbit hole discovering groups, styles etc. Even though I don't understand what they say I like how Korean sounds, especially on beats, reminds me of hip-hop the way it flows. The know how to make beats over there. I'm opinion K-Pop is miles better than western pop, less bullshit content and more focused on good vibes, good music and really putting in work into the choreography. You can get down on the dance floor to more K-Pop music than western pop music. K-pop is pop done right, like pop back in the 80's.
It always surprises me whenever I see hip hop and/or metalheads actually enjoying Kpop. Because they won't listen to western pop, but will tune in to listen to Kpop instead. Which is also in a totally different language, but yet, it still brings people together. I actually went to one of those KCON concerts in LA and there was so many different groups of people around. Young and older.
Hey, thanks for this! I'm in my 30s from Texas and I'm a full blown BTS army. BTS is what got me into Jordan Peterson and the great philosopher Carl Jung (one that jordan peterson quotes endlessly). In turn, I've been watching you for a while on your Jordan and "political" videos. (BTS connected you with people without even knowing). Needless to say, BTS changed my life. We just want people to put some RESPECT on it. 💜💜
BTS' leader, RM, actually said during one their FOUR SOLD OUT concerts at the Allegiant Stadium in Vegas, that some people are just haters. He said if doesn't like someone, he may talk about it to his friends at a cafe, but he would never take it to social media... because he's a "grown up". :D
Bro, how you feel about Joe Budden is exactly how us mixtape Joe Budden fans feel. I've been a fan of Joe since his Envy, Clue, OnPoint days. To see him turn into this spicy, diva ass, fake gatekeeper, headass. Dude is TMZ now, a complete waste of everything.
It’s a shame bc I watch his show saw all the Spotify shit and am rolling my eyes at all the lost opportunities he doesn’t even think of AND he wants to try to talk about industry stuff. His ego stops his own success. He can own his stuff and still be more than this piddly podcast getting out shown by other podcast/news. Lk embarrassing bc I’m a BTS fan and know they were able to get stock; and their company, that grew bc of them, are the reason why US artists FINALLY got some stock in their management company. It’s sooooo cringy you hear him talk without much research.
Hi Stevie..this showed up while watching TH-cam for anything about BTS, I have been a fan for going on five years. So I took a minute to hear what you had to say, and I just want to say thank you for defending BTS. Not everyone has to like BTS, and yes there are some ARMY that would get quite upset if you didn’t, I call them young ARMY. I I will even say there’s one or two songs by BTS that I don’t particularly enjoy but I do adore them. Not only do they have music or songs they put out, but they also have so much content, such as Run BTS episodes - which is their own game shows. Bon Voyage, cameras follow them as they go on vacation outside of Korea. This is how we came to know and love BTS. We get to see their personalities off of the stage and how they truly interact with each other. Also, before there debut in 2013, they started videotaping themselves individually or with a partner or more telling us how they feel and what they are going through. They even give us backstage videos and usually go live after an award show or after their concerts and do live chats with ARMY or anyone who watches which is called VLive. 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
I'm not a fan of BTS but understand the hype and the work they've put on expanding their reach. Joe is a professional hater but fails to realize, everyone of those guys has done more for their own culture and genre than Joe has done for his. Still VIP for ever 🤣🤣🤣
Thank you. I love people like you who stand up for truth no matter who you love as a fan. Some other fan would have agreed with Joe and bashed BTS because they are a competition to their favorite group but not you. Bless up! ❤
BTS is world wide.... they're the biggest act on the planet... period. It's all hate because none of the western artists are pulling the weight they are. Kpop is on it's way to becoming the biggest music genre on Earth, no cap. Most of your old school hip hop and R&B heads who use to write and produce all the dope music we love from the 80's and 90's work in kpop now and you hear that influence in certain groups... I dont hear that here in the states anymore and for me it's a blessing to see that still alive. MUSIC SHOULDN'T BE HATED ON IT SHOULD BE EMBRACED... ITS THE UNIVERSAL LANGUAGE OF ALL. Haha Army is going to straight Massacre his ass and it's going to be hilarious. I'm a hip hop and r&b head and I personally respect any artist that can push music in general to even greater heights. Respect the grind respect the success that was not given but earned. Great Analysis Bro... I enjoy your content and what you stand for!! Keep up the good work!!🙌🙌
"Kpop is on it's way to becoming the biggest music genre on Earth". NO CAP... If you can sell out 4 nights at SoFi (Inglewood) and Allegiant (Las Vegas) and generate +$30M USD in ONE nights streaming (more than the opening weekends of some Hollywood movies. You know what's up.
@@jfprizzy honestly I disagree. BTS is carrying the kpop genre on their backs. Kpop can only became the biggest genre if at least a few acts dominate the industry. The biggest artists are mostly able to sell out a few arenas here and their, the type of impact you described is reserved to bts and bts only. They're like an industry anomaly. If you remove their achievements from the kpop reach, you wouldn't see anything really much impressive compared to other genres. Bts becoming the biggest act in the world doesn't mean kpop will be the biggest genre.
@@-amel-9896 Not exactly Blackpink is another group that is female that manages to compete with BTS atm. They have billions of views and even have more views than even some BTS videos. Whenever they put out a new MV they get the same #'s as BTS and even performed at Coachella. I acc knew them first b4 BTS. I like both groups so I'm not pitting them against each other but acknowledging that there r other very popular kpop groups in the West. Obviously BTS r the BIGGEST act so ppl tend to hyper focus on them. As a comparison, not achieving Michael Jackson popularity doesn't make other artists not successful in America. BTS popularity doesn't mean other kpop groups r not successful in the West at all. Kpop, has had a turnover w/ groups disbanding and new groups just debuting, it becomes very difficult to be a household name since so many r so new. However, I do agree that we shouldn't generalise BTS numbers to kpop as a whole. :)
@@MiSSK2078 Stop talking nonsense. Too bad we are in yt and I cannot show you the graphs of how kpop compares to BTS in terms of success. There are actual surveys that show kpop still is flop and nothing to do with BTS's success. You think the Coachella festival and yt questionable views from SEA countries mean success when they literally flop on the actual charts? The bar is in hell. You kpoppies need to stop being delusional.
@@-amel-9896 bruh no disrespect at all I understand where you're coming from but you gotta know more about what your talking about..... Girl groups for example.... Red Velvet one of my favs, Twice, and black pink, all toured here across the US, Canada, and Mexico and South America... Sold out every show. Each groups songs hundreds of millions of views and billions.... each album Top of the world charts and US..... iTunes... spotify etc. You get the picture.... they've each topped Western Artists time and time again and that's not my stats, thats factual numbers. That's not including what the Male groups do besides bts... stray kids, Exo, etc. You never hear about it because the western media keeps that info on a hush basis, but they're realizing now kpop is where the money is and now you see it unfolding. The fact of the Matter is kpop is the emerging music genre and alot of cats are salty about it. Hey good music is good music in any language and it should be embraced not downed on.
I'm bts fan since 2018 and I seen people like this guy hating for clout and saying nonsense but really respect for you when you see wrong speak about it it doesn't matter you like the guys or not 💜
I had BTS fattige like 3 years ago. If I don't wanna see it I just keep scrolling, problem solved.. Maaan.. Joe Budden is a whole fool, and acting more and more like a bitter old man for every time he say something publicly 😆
How does Joe Budden find a way to have beef with BTS HAHAHAHAHAHA...like...what??...Who has beef with BTS lol...Im not a fan but this is silly AF...come on Joe...lol.
Right! It’s not possible to have beef with anybody if it doesn’t go both ways🤣 you will not find one tweet or video of any of the BTS members talking shît about somebody even if they had a reason to. That’s just not who they are. So for somebody old enough to be their dad coming out the woodworks and hating on them like that is crazy.
@-Amel- I don’t know, they’re very well rounded with hip hop artists whether they’re mainstream or not, but they don’t like name dropping when it comes to responding to hate so I guess we’ll never know🤣🤷🏾♀️
Yeah all the beef bts has is one sided, and it's not coming from Bts' end 💀 any time they address hate (whether through a song/cypher, or briefly talk about it) they dont name people specifically they just say what they say and if it applies to you it applies to you lol. They dont get into drama but people always try to bring drama to them when all they do is mind their business.
Simple. He's ignorant,and has no idea what he is talking about. I've never heard of him until this video and I was alive when hip hop was born and listen to current mainstream and independent rap artists. They are hard working young men with major talent. You would never catch them saying that about anyone else
Hilarity ensues. Firstly, did not know this "joe" existed but ok. Secondly, he used that "china" thing knowingly; biggest insult to a Korean is to be called chinese or japanese. Thirdly, I'm assuming he didn't have a problem with Silk Sonic performing and winning three grammys. Well, guess what Anderson Paak is, yup, Korean. His mother is of part Korean heritage and born in South Korea. And guess what else? His wife is full Korean all the way from South Korea which makes his children more Korean than this never-been can handle. Lastly, Paak is a Korean last name and Anderson refers to himself not as "blasian" but "niggerean". and he's darn proud of it.
I don't get how people say something is trash or that they hate it without even knowing a single thing about it! That's just very disturbing to me and makes me ashamed as a Human Being. I can't believe that there are so many people around the world like him!
As a avid Kpop fan and non BTS "fan" (I listen to some of their music but they are not my top.) I wanted to hear exactly what he said. If he said I really don't vibe with it, it's not my thing, or something similar, I wouldn't have cared. He is clearly seeking negative attention like a toddler and he is being handed it now with three letters. 🙄
He literally said, "I hate them BTS "Ni***s" "I don't wanna see them dance, I don't wanna see them come from the ceiling"(and other stuff like that...... basically hating and sounding real salty about their Grammy performance lol smh 🤦🏾♀️ he even mentioned their jacket trick they did how you gone hate them but you watching them that hard, enough to be able to describe the trick he's hating on? 😂
More importantly, saving lives and healing people around the world crossing language and cultural barriers, helping people get through the difficult times and helping people learn to love themselves
2:46 If he says he doesn't like BTS' music, it's his right to have personal taste. The problem is: he later claims that he HATES BTS, and hasn't even heard any work from them! Besides calling them Chinese while they are Asian yes, but from South Korea!And with great pride!
I'm not a fan of theirs, but they have more talent and fans than Budden could ever hope to have. The dude is nothing but a bitter old man jealous at anothers success. Nothing but a hater and clout chaser.
I do like BTS and I am not some crazy Stan I like what they stand for they helped my daughter through a lot of mental health stuff but he was mad disrespectful and has no idea like the guys video said he knows NOTHING about them or their history and lemme tell you KPOP stans don't play haha
bts does ALL genres of music they also do hip hop. kpop is NOT a genre of music its just music in korean. you should react to bts give them a chance. :)
I love how ARMYs from all over the world have gathered here to give lessons to the newbies and recruit new ARMYS but also being respectful enough not to force them to like BTS. This is why our fandom is the most loyal and biggest fandom in the world. Borahae💜
100%. They just think BTS and it's automatically Butter and Dynamite haha. If only he knew... but his prejudice and xenophobia prevents him from just doing a quick or deep search. I'm glad I did as a hard rap and hip-hop fan. Holy shit I was impressed.
Ohhhhhh he went and said shit about the wrong group of guys...there is a reason their fandom is called ARMY!!! These 7 men are more protected than any royalty or v.i.p ..unfortunately there's no cure for ignorance,or just being a general f@#ktard All I can say is Joe you did this to yourself !!!!!! As an army myself I'm gonna quote the guys..plz stay healthy lol 💜💜
Also thank you for this video ! BTS actually had MORE non Korean fans that was how they got acknowledged. Now they are globally popular everywhere (including Korea). I appreciate you
Army...and yes we will defend our boys bc we know their full story. Most of us don't ask for everyone to listen to them or have any certain opinion of them we just want respect for them.
@@Darkstar_Dayne Look at this, corny fans trying to come together trying to cancel another man because you do not like his opinions🤣. Eminem fans need to worry about that rock and roll hall of fame voting that they're losing.
Aww lemme tell you why you’re an army it’s because you have no life or friends you’ve achieved nothing to identify with so this boy band and people who are similar to you gives you hope and an identity that you’ve craved all your life but never got you’re living your dreams through them but sadly you still ain’t shit they are so get out of this bubble of we gonna defend my group we gonna cancel people and focus on your life its way bigger than bts for you
I'm a big fan of BTS, but you don't have to be :) I appreciate you listening to them and giving your opinion. Joe Budden sounds like either he's jealous or is looking for attention. Well, he got it.
"China." I am obviously an ARMY, but I felt embarrassment when he said "from China", not even offense from that. Sheesh. You hating on someone you do not even know about. I could never. I better be even zipped when I hate someone out of ignorance.
Honestly don't mind him hating on music lol but the china shit was just ignorant. Shit he's probably mad because he's heard them accidentily and didn't realize he started moving to their rhythm. But in all honesty it's not a big deal to me, hate their music if you want don't matter.
Oh I’m sure he was bopping to butter, by the way he described their Grammy performance in detail means he sat through the whole thing, that sounds like closeted fan behavior🤣 I don’t get hating on shit for no reason but just make sure you can take it after you dished it out🤷🏾♀️
Its like twitch chat equating anything asian with being a weeb 🤪👏 Its strange to me how a fan of disney is watever, but a fan of anime is considered a weeb
I liked the music BTS used to put out before they were trying to have a wider appeal, but there are definitely other "Kpop" groups that are more hip hop that I definitely enjoy a lot more (and I'm sure you would too).
Lol . RULE number 1 in music NEVER AND I MEAN NEVER...SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT KPOP EVER....Just say its not your cup of tea. Its safer that way . RULE 2- IF YOU GO SPEAK DOWN ON BTS OR INSULT THEM..YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA LIFE IS OVER....RIP They never forgot. He will have to apolpgize but half of them will still hate him. Ps Animal advocates everywhere should also be mad at him cuz thats just disturbing what he said about pets
Yes! They are Korean! What is the problem with that! One of my uncles fought in the Korean war! And he married a Korean woman! People are people! Just like that!
This is that whole "No one listens to Eminem in the hood!" rhetoric. Like the only thing that matters is whats on your block. This just suggests that Budden may not be fit for a global audience. Or is better served in small doses.
Budden knows that controversy generates clicks and massive social media traffic. He might be thinking, "It's all money" even when he's being clowned and attacked by the BTS army. If he thought Eminem stans were aggressive, he's about to see a whole new level. It's going to be a rough ride for Joe, even if his compensation goes up.
We don’t care if you don’t like their music. That’s fine. We all have opinions. BUT you should never be disrespectful no matter how you feel about the music.
I think that people who hate others and won't specify a reason in public is because they KNOW that their reason is not appropriate and would receive a lot of backlash. I have friends who won't try and listen to 'KPop' because they generalize all KPop to perhaps one song or performance that they didn't care for. This is like listening to one American pop or rock song, not liking it and just dismissing a whole genre. It is crazy.
I need army's to let Joe talk his shit and just quietly continue to support BTS and let their success speak for itself because that's how BTS does it. It's the ultimate revenge honestly.
Hey Stevie! I know you into checking out Korean rap sometimes. I wanted to recommend Vannda - one of the hottest rappers out of Cambodia He dropped a video recently for Bok Kalo on TH-cam. Just wanted to recommend/request a reaction vid! Have a nice day 😁
when I listen to them bts stunned their lyrics have a deep meaning and their dance is so good ....and their energy is fucking good and i think many male are listening to their music including me....
If even the comments under the Shaderoom's post are defending BTS, which we never expect them to do, it really shows how almost no one will stand with him on this one
My wife's a BTS fan and she loves them. I don't really listen to BTS but I have the utmost respect for their artistry and dedication to what they do.
what genres of music do you usually listen to?
@@janetuss6496 I'm both hip-hop head and metalhead. i listen to lots of Wu-Tang, Joyner, The LOX, Onyx, etc and also lots of The Devil Wears Prada, Lorna Shore, AILD, Fit for a King, etc. Oh, I'm a big BlackPink fan too, the only Kpop I listen to. I also recently got into listening to IU, she's phenomenal!
@@marlogwapo oh man, if you're a hiphop head, there's A LOT of BTS songs for you! Their hiphop-heavy work is not promoted in the mainstream unfortunately, but hiphop is actually their roots, they originally started as a hiphop group and that genre is one of their fortes. A lot of BTS songs sound very old-school, like reminiscent of 80s/90s/2000s hiphop and RnB songs. 2 of their rappers RM and Suga were actually well-known underground rappers prior to BTS. Their 3rd rapper J-Hope was a trained hiphop dancer prior to BTS. The 3 of them are particularly well-versed and knowledgeable in hiphop, especially old-school hiphop. The 3 of them are also the primary songwriters and producers for BTS - they have a heavy hand in a vast bulk of BTS songs, and at the very least, they write their own parts. RM has expressed that people who call themselves rappers should write their own lyrics (not all rappers in the kpop industry write their own lyrics). RM and Suga even write/produce for other artists outside of BTS and Suga has won an award for producing. RM and Suga also write solo songs for their own BTS vocalists.
I like Blackpink and IU a lot too 😊 I've been following korean music since the mid 2000s, so I would say I know quite a bit about it haha. BTS is a very special group, well-worth your perusal especially if you like hiphop! Blackpink girls are extremely top notch performers, I know a lot about them and have followed them since their debut. But unfortunately they are not trained songwriters and producers like the BTS rappers are. The ladies have written a few lyrics here and there, but generally speaking they do not make their own music. Their company also does not give them much creative and artistic freedom, unlike BTS's company. Blackpink songs are great pop songs, but they do not come close to the depth of artistry that BTS songs have. Which is unfortunate, because I think Blackpink is so talented but their artistic potential is very restricted. The artistry and creativity of BTS songs cover way more depth. I mean, they even got a song called 134340 that is about Pluto being demoted as a planet (they use it as a metaphor for other things of course). The discovery of the dwarf planet Eris is essentially what prompted the reclassification of Pluto, the lyrics mention Eris. BTS has also risked their careers a few times by making political critical songs (in Korea, artists aren't as free to do that as they would in America. They risk getting banned, blacklisted or otherwise targeted by people in power). Also BTS also does many more musical genres other than pop. They even got neo-soul songs.
I'll give you some recs for their hiphop heavy work below, but just wanna mention that BTS made an album called Map Of the Soul 7 based on the works of the famous psychiatrist Carl Jung, the founder of analytical psychology. Their song Black Swan is on that album, it's about an artist's fear of losing passion for their craft, or fear of not being able to pursue their craft one day, for one reason or another. The song was written based on a quote from a famous dancer: "a dancer dies twice, once when they stop dancing, and this first death is the more painful.” The film Black Swan with Natalie Portman also served as inspiration.
On that same album, the 3 rappers each have a solo rap song presenting different Jungian concepts: Persona by RM, Shadow by Suga, Ego by J-Hope.
Also, I feel like I should point out the difference between learning how to rap for songs, and being a rapper rapper with the background, and vast skills and knowledge of hiphop. I really love Jennie and Lisa, they are extremely talented, but the honest truth is that they are not at the level of rappers that the BTS rappers are at. If you throw Lisa and Jennie into a real underground rap battle, they wouldn't be able to do it. Prior to BTS, RM had already developed a reputation for demolishing underground rappers, and he was only 15/16 years old at the time. A lot of rappers in kpop receive their lyrics from songwriters and learn how to rap it very well for songs and for the style, but the hiphop skill and knowledge does not run in their blood and soul like it does for the BTS rappers. Because RM and Suga started out in the underground rap scene, there's a big difference between them and kpop rappers who were molded within the kpop industry. If you explore the hiphop-heavy work of BTS, you will be able to see the difference.
The BTS song Hip Hop Lover is them paying homage to hiphop, their lyrics reference a lot of the most influential MC rappers, DJs, and producers that shaped hiphop in the 80s and 90s, as well as some legendary rap albums too. If you're not well-versed in the golden age of hiphop, you might not be able to catch all their references. Here's a live performance:
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And BTS also made their own rendition of Born Sinner by J. Cole, their version is called Born Singer. It's one of their rap-heavy songs. Here's a live performance:
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Their 3 rappers also have their own sub-unit where they do rap songs together. Check out their Cyphers #1 - #4, they made those in response to the criticism and hate they were getting, particular from the underground rappers and hiphop community in korea. RM and Suga were particularly targeted because they had left the underground scene to join BTS. No music vids, but there's lyric vids (though heads up, lyric vids usually don't have the best translations, check the website doolsetbangtan if you want more accurate translations and explanations for wordplay). And here is a live performance where they performed shortened versions for the first 3 Cyphers and then did the entire 4th Cypher:
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Another great song from their 3 rappers is Outro: Tear. Here's a famous live performance of it, this is one of my favorite songs from BTS:
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The rappers wrote Outro: Tear during a time a few years ago when BTS was going through a lot of hardships and they were considering disbanding. Since the guys have been working and living together since their teens, they are close like blood brothers and the thought of disbanding to them was literal heartbreak. So the rappers wrote this song for the other members.
But generally speaking, a lot of BTS lyrics that revolve around love are written so that they can be applied to many things depending on the listener, like platonic friendships, family relationships, romantic love, the relationship you have with yourself, the relationship you have with your craft, etc. Sometimes BTS songs about love are actually directed at their fans too.
The 3 rappers also each wrote/produced their own rap solo mixtapes. RM has 2 mixtapes. Suga has 2 mixtapes, he goes by his alter ego Agust D for his mixtape work. J-Hope has 1 mixtape. They spent millions of dollars to make their rap solo work and released all their songs for free - they have a true passion for music, especially rap, it's not about the money. I do suggest going in order of release for their mixtapes, but here are some suggestions to start you off:
- Joke by RM
- Monster by RM
- Do You by RM
(Here's a live performance of Monster: th-cam.com/video/F58BMdl0ezg/w-d-xo.html )
- Agust D by Agust D
- Daechwita by Agust D
- The Last by Agust D
- Daydream by J-Hope
- Baseline by J-Hope (John Cena's fav J-Hope song)
- Airplane by J-Hope
J-Hope's song 1 Verse samples the beat from El Chapo by The Game.
J-Hope also paid $2.7 million to the original artist to re-make the popular 2000s hiphop song Chicken Noodle Soup by Webstar and Young B, and released his version for free, as a gift to fans. He did it just to pay homage to his own hiphop dancing roots, as CNS was one of the first songs he danced to when he started learning as a kid.
Sorry for bombarding you with SO much info, I actually have many more BTS hiphop songs to recommend cause they got sooo many, but I think this is quite a lot already haha sorry! If you want more recs, feel free to ask though.
I do highly recommend you check out a music reaction channel Anthony Ray, he's a rapper from Belgium. Prior to doing reactions to BTS music, he mainly only did reactions to hardcore western rap music like NF, Tom, Harry Mack, Tech N9ne, etc (he later started a 2nd channel called Rap Catalog for those rap reactions). He was initially very skeptical of getting into BTS cause he had a lot of pre-conceived notions about them, but he was suggested to start with their rap heavy stuff and it won him over. His first BTS reaction was Daechwita by their rapper Agust D. I think that was like 9 months ago or so? I suggest starting from that video and watching his BTS reactions in chronological order. You can explore BTS with him, he's very intelligent and good at breakdowns, and he's very knowledgeable about hiphop/rap.
@@marlogwapo Ok really sorry for writing a 2nd reply, I forgot you mentioned being a metal-head too. BTS doesn't have any strictly metal songs, BUT RM has a rap song on his first mixtape called Throw Away, it's got a very metal-like instrumental. He once performed it at a hiphop music festival called All Force One where he was invited to be a headlining artist, here is the part where he performed Throw Away:
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I'll link you the clip to RM's whole All Force One hiphop performance that I just mentioned, he did a few rap songs from his own mixtape. And he had also brought Suga and J-Hope with him as guests, so the 3 of them also performed snippets of a few BTS songs. The set list is in the description, in case you wanna know what songs they performed:
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Also, not sure if you like Limp Bizkit or not, but BTS once did a cool dance cover to Spaz by Krizz Kalico and Rollin' by Limp Bizkit: th-cam.com/video/S1Up-ZzHmuw/w-d-xo.html
Even if you don't like those songs, it's still a very cool dance performance imo haha.
Also, just wanna mention there's a BTS neo-soul song that is nearly universally liked, no matter what genre you prefer. Even hiphop heads who only like hardcore rap usually like this song. It's called Singularity, a solo song by their vocalist V. The primary songwriter is RM, he wrote it specifically with V in mind. And he based the lyrics off a book called The Singularity is Near, which is about A.I and the future of humans. Apparently it's a rather deep and complicated book haha. Here's the music vid:
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Also, BTS's dancing is top of the game, they could be a world-class professional dance crew if didn't make music. They are very versatile and can do many styles, but they are particularly good at hiphop style dancing. Here are some of their cool dance practice videos to their own songs:
- Mic Drop Dance Practice: th-cam.com/video/eRkpkveBWyo/w-d-xo.html
- Dionysus Dance Practice: th-cam.com/video/bccr1BwNI0Y/w-d-xo.html
- Danger Dance Practice: th-cam.com/video/vJwHIpEogEY/w-d-xo.html
- Baepsae Dance Practice: th-cam.com/video/gdUQ7GS7JXU/w-d-xo.html
- Blood, Sweat and Tears Dance Practice: th-cam.com/video/v8z1TtlY1no/w-d-xo.html
- Black Swan Dance Practice: th-cam.com/video/fTS1jAhWPbw/w-d-xo.html
- Fire Dance Practice: th-cam.com/video/sWuYspuN6U8/w-d-xo.html
- Their 3 best dancers also have their own sub-unit called 3J where they do harder choreography dances, mostly hiphop style. Here's a clip of them practicing and choreographing to songs from other artists: th-cam.com/video/ZVBciTIAUGs/w-d-xo.html
Here is 3J doing a short dance cover to Megan Thee Stallion's verse in their Butter remix:
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@@marlogwapo damn that person drop a wikipedia here 😂
Las Vegas literally just changed their whole city to a festival for the BTS concerts. What is joe doing? A podcast? Lmao
When Joe Budden goes to Las Vegas, the only person waiting for him is the Valet guy.
@@jfprizzy lol
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@jfprizzy Even then the valet guy doesn't recognize him. 🤣
So cring stop🙄🙄🙄
Fun fact: BTS made 60 million dollars Friday in Vegas. And they have three more days of concerts. Haters gonna hate.
@Cakes are good,” players going play, live a life man, good luck!” By Rap Monster ( a.k.a R M of BTS) Mic Drop Real words to live by💜🙏🏼
I'm not Army but they never forgive ignorance. Korean rappers who hated on BTS back when they debuted, calling them sell-outs and women for wearing makeup, are still clowned by Army to this day. And that was almost ten years ago.
I don't consider myself Army but Spring Day, Not Today, and Mic Drop are part of my permanent playlist. I don't consider myself a VIP but lots of Big Bangs music is on my top 100 list. BTS is extremely talented.
They really don’t. When they got wind of the news that B-Free got arrested (assaulting a fellow rapper over a Twitter argument) around the time Suga released his second solo project, they were clowning on him hard with the catchphrase “Karma is an ARMY”.
You know it. Be Free was trolling them. Cypher 2 is addressed to Be Free. The guys were ambushed during that radio show. They were told they were invited because they had achieved something, but instead RM and Suga had to listen to Be Free try to humiliate them. They were so polite while listening to hate. I haven’t heard from Be Free in years.
No, I disagree….they can forgive ignorance since being ignorant of something means “ lack of knowledge or information”
BTS will ignore this hate filled toxic jealous human being because he is not worth their time or effort and never will be.
He can dislike their music and performances but without a reason or just cause this guy just makes himself look like a first class xenophobic arrogant jerk…..
Yeah. B-Free didn't stay so free, did he? Unfortunate rap name choice. With ARMY numbering in the millions (I can't keep up), you know a percentage of those fans now have Budden firmly on their radar.
Dude hit the nail on the head.
Eminem, Drake, BTS
BUDDEN hating on things that made it way bigger than he ever did or could
💯
Drake really not my cup of tea but he does have some good hits before the “high light bling “. Anyways everybody else yes like damn BTS is top tier and Eminem hating on those two is crack central enough and he have a Twitter? They going ham.
Oh shit! The BTS army is about to tear into Joe. I'm not a BTS fan, but I respect what they do, and know the MASSIVE amount of followers that they have.
what genres of music do you usually listen to?
You think Joe cares😂🤣😂 a bunch of 14 year old Asian girls won't affect his bag🤣🤣
He's right tho they are garbage and cringe AF
That's right
@@jornavyr2459 Nah Stans are way worse than K-pop fans. K-pop fans will go "You're disrespectful, you don't know them" with some angry emojis but stans will tear him apart lol
Hilarity ensues. Firstly, did not know this "joe" existed but ok. Secondly, he used that "china" thing knowingly; biggest insult to a Korean is to be called chinese or japanese. Thirdly, I'm assuming he didn't have a problem with Silk Sonic performing and winning three grammys. Well, guess what Anderson Paak is, yup, Korean. His mother is of part Korean heritage and born in South Korea. And guess what else? His wife is full Korean all the way from South Korea which makes his children more Korean than this never-been can handle. Lastly, Paak is a Korean last name and Anderson refers to himself not as "blasian" but "niggerean". and he's darn proud of it.
What makes it particularly sad and annoying when some creative or person related to the music world slanders BTS for no reason, is the fact that the BTS are nothing but honest competitors, good sports, respectful to their influences, generous with their praise, and even constantly promote other artists. They carry themselves with humility and kindness. They treat their craft with love and professionalism. And they mind their own bussiness. But I guess some people can't control their envy.
Beautifully said. The hater-for-no-reason type are simply jealous of the massive success and adoration BTS has earned. Period. I couldn't care less what Budden thinks.
Well👏Said👏
To those who think that armys are just teen girls , actually 70% of fandome is 20 to 70 yo and major age is around 30 to 50 . All this success wouldn't be just with teen audiences since bts concert and their products , selling out anything they touch, raising monney for charity donations, building hospitals and much more things what armys do on boys birthdays wouldn't be possible with teens only as main fandome. So plz yall do some research.
I know right haha. Just looking at audiences in vlogs or fancams of BTS concerts and you can literally see the demographics. Plus the number of BTS reaction videos on TH-cam are only slightly more skewed to women.
Yeah, I'm 35 now, became Army at 28...I was really into rock before Bts.
Wtf is BTS and why are they so mad he misspoke 🤔 Damn, you can't even misspeak around this mf no more 🤦🏿♂️ What is BTS?
Love Bts. Have done since Christmas. Love what they stand for. I am 50.
@@JesusOurLordandSavior I'm 67 and became ARMY 9 years ago!!! And they always Surprise me when they a have a NEW song "Release" and it's like how do they do that every time!!! BTS ARMY TEXAS!!!
As Black ARMY let me say BTS and ARMY donated over $2 million dollars to Black Lives Matter to help prevent cops from beating Joe Budden like a runaway slave. What have Joe Budden contributed to our (Black) community except failed rap music that few people hardly remember.
These comments were getting too grim....thanks for the lol :-DDD
Yes that's true..
That’s kind of a whole L BLM is a scam that also did nothing for black communities
🤣 You Betta Preach! 70yrs young Black Grandmother.. *Jersey Girl!* & *Army!* I Found BTS 6/2021 While on YT Watching Someone *Tickled Singing* to *Bruno Mars/Silk Sonics* "Leave the Door Open!" I Stopped, *Who Was This Kid!?* *It Was Jungkook!* And *Everyday* 🤗🤣 *I Watch Their Vids!* & *Listen To Their* 🎶 *Music! *Lmao* *I Swear I Can Sing In Korean!* *Almost* 🤣
3/21 My 62yo Sis got Covid/Gave it to Me! She held on 1Mo! ⚘ I Was SAD! *Then* *Happiness Came* From *Talented!* *Caring!* *Sharing!* *Humble!* *Humans!* 🎶 *Armyeee's* 🎶 Stay🙏Safe!
*Watching from New⚘Jersey, USA 😎
@@melvaburke2608 Ms. Melva, I'm so terribly sorry to hear of your unthinkable loss. Sending you strength and love. I was told for decades what I was "supposed" to listen to (or not listen to). I listen to everything I please. Please continue to enjoy all of the things you love and let them lift you up as you lift up others. 💌 from the Bay Area.💐🎶
BTS isn't really for me but I respect what they're doing in their lane. I know there's an audience for that stuff.
Budden's latter career has been pretty much hating on any and every artist bigger than him.
Fr, wtf🤦♂️🤡
what genres of music do you usually listen to?
@@janetuss6496 Hip Hop. I know they rap but it ain't my type.
@@nishant2784 Then you should check out Cyphers, 90’s style rap. You never know if you don’t listen. Outro Tear, Never Mind, and Ugh. This is coming from someone who used to hate rap. They changed my view on hip hop because their lyrics are so deep, and not consist of all cursed words in the whole song.
Hilarity ensues. Firstly, did not know this "joe" existed but ok. Secondly, he used that "china" thing knowingly; biggest insult to a Korean is to be called chinese or japanese. Thirdly, I'm assuming he didn't have a problem with Silk Sonic performing and winning three grammys. Well, guess what Anderson Paak is, yup, Korean. His mother is of part Korean heritage and born in South Korea. And guess what else? His wife is full Korean all the way from South Korea which makes his children more Korean than this never-been can handle. Lastly, Paak is a Korean last name and Anderson refers to himself not as "blasian" but "niggerean". and he's darn proud of it.
I've listend to Western music all my life and never paid attention to KPOP, but a few monhts ago I gave it a try(mainly BTS). If you can used to the cultural differences and see the talent and hard work they provide, then you can see why they're so popular. Everyone has their own tatse in music, but what I noticed is that a lot of people make assumptions and make racist comments because they're asian and they do things differently.
People like Budden only want attention, negative or positive.
Try big bang also, they are kpop Idol's Idols
BTS isnt really like kpop
@@given0077 sure...if you dont count BTS as kpop 😁
@@WE__BTS well I guess kpop these days is just the general term for the industry itself and not necessarily a genre. But pop just means popular so it isnt wrong either right ? ;)
@@Niki91-HR yes it does but Kpop is not actually not the most popular type of music in SK. Trot, for example, is bigger
I've been a BTS fan since 2015, they have been hustling for 10 years trying to make it and it's amazing for me to see how far they've come. They be minding their own business but they keep having people coming for them unprovoked, and it's messed up. You can say you don't feel them and their music that's your opinion but to say you HATE someone for NO REASON, is childish as hell.
PERIOD
Hey 2015! Same... Hi5!
It’s mostly unprovoked which is so annoying
He's a racist hater.
Same I was a big fan of BTS back in 2015, I dropped out of the fandom a few years later but I it’s annoying that the criticism was not even based in substance.
My daughter is a die hard BTS fan. I was skeptical at first but after listening to "Mic Drop" there was no way I could not admit that they are an insanely talented group regardless if I did not have a clue what they were saying through half of the song. The beat and their dance moves were off the charts. Just because they are not something I would listen to on a regular basis does not mean they are not insanely talented and deserve respect as musicians.
As a BTS Army for 6 years, reading these comments really touched my heart. We’ve been dealing with a lot of hate recently, with famous people, haters, media, trolls coming for us. I really appreciate the respect even tho its the bare minimum but its hard to find these days. Respect and being open minded is what we really ask from society. Thank you so much for not being prejudiced i hope you all have a great day. Borahae 💜💜💜
I don't even listen BTS but I respect them as human beings who just do music.. If he doesn't want them he should have stfu his mouth for real
Joe was out of line. If you’ve heard the name BTS, you know darn well that it’s Kpop. It’s mentioned in every single English article about them. To call them Chinese (especially with the tone he used. To me it sounded like he knew they weren’t Chinese and was using Chinese as an insult, which is disgusting) and to say you dislike their music without any reason as to why (other than it probably being because they’re Korean artists from Korea who predominantly sing in Korean) is simply uncalled for. You don’t have to like BTS or their music. Thats perfectly fine. But to discredit or disregard them and their hard work is unnecessary.
I was a BTS fan (A Kpop fan since 2009) long before they blew up. Almost all of the members came from poverty and struggled like hell to make it. They were treated poorly in Korea at first (for years). Called nugu (nobodies) and mocked over their appearance, seemed to have been physically abused by their old staff (video of Taehyung being shoved and a staff almost punching Jungkook (who was like 15 or 16 years old at the time) and verbally threatening him), starved (Jin mentioned how they had practically no food), and were treated horribly by MCs on shows and so much more.
If you want to talk about underdogs who struggled to make it, look no further than BTS. They came from absolutely nothing into being the biggest boy group in the world (not speaking English or using English originally to boot, aside from Namjoon). You have to at least put some respect on that. Especially seeing how heavily involved they are in their music (not with their English releases which is understandable). They’ve worked their a**es off and have earned their success. Nothing was handed to them.
I’ve never even heard of this Joe guy but after doing some digging it seems that all he does is pick fights with those more talented and successful than he is. Laughable if you ask me. Makes sense he would go after BTS considering how popular they are right now.
Thank you so much for at least being open minded toward BTS and respectful. And thank you for standing up for them regarding this issue.
BEING THREATED SO BADLY AND THEN KNOWING THAT THEY GAVE UP SO MUCH TO BE WHERE THEY ARE TODAY! They could not see their Families but maybe once a Year! Being I so young you need your Family to help you stay strong! They only had each other to do that. So they became their own Family that's why they are so close to each other! It broke my heart to know that! BTS ARMY TEXAS.
I love your shirt.
And there's absolutely nothing wrong with being Chinese, to use that as insult is so racist and disgusting.
@@yukis4422 Exactly, racism and xenophobia💜💜
Of course he knew they aren't Chinese, he was appealing to low brow mentalities out there, eg, others that use "Chinese" pejoratively
As a hiphop fan who fell in love with the hiphop aspects of BTS’ music, I really don’t care about who doesn’t like them or not, that has nothing to do with me lol. There’s tons of artists I don’t like and that’s ok. It’s when you feel the need to get your point across by being ignorant for no reason that’s so weak and unnecessary. But this isn’t the first time somebody came for BTS unprovoked and it won’t be the last, that’s why the guys never retaliate. It’s not worth the energy!✌🏾
I was bandwagon hater of BTS too until I saw them perform on James Corden one night and said "Sh%t, these dudes are actually really talented"
Respect, respect. Have you seen other things from them?
@@SilverFang95 Yes I watched some of their other performances and became a fan. To be fair I never really hated them just thought some of their fans on Twitter were annoying
@@HyperSole true. But what do you expect from Twitter😂
I wasn't a fan, even when Dynamite, Butter was out. Then my friends told me to watch their Outro: Tear Wembley performance. And hot damn I was sold....
@@jfprizzy You will be more impressed if you know the story behind that song. Suga created when the boys were going through a tough time physically and mentally, and they were thinking about disbandment. They all cried together when listening to this song the first time together. This song means a lot to the fans because it saved them from disbanding.
Exactly!! Everything you said. I’m a 52yo old K-AMRY (BTS fandom) from Korea. Thank you for your vlog. I’ve watched your BTS reactions from the beginning and you’ve always showed respect for the guys! You’re awesome. We got mad respect for you!
At least the people on the podcast with him told him straight up, "If you don't have a reason (for hating them), that's disgusting." There's definitely a reason; even the shittiest reason is still a reason. Admitting racism, admitting xenophobia, saying, "They look like girls", etc are all shitty reasons but they're still reasons... Like many have said, it's fine to have different tastes, but to say you hate someone/something, there's gotta be a reason behind that. If people who dislike BTS actually knows about the meaning behind their music and the things they do, I'm pretty sure most of them can at least commend them for their work and/or the effort they put behind it. Personally, I don't quite like hearing people say, "You can't say/do this because their fans will come after you." I mean, I get it, but I would rather hear someone's honest opinion over something fake, but the least we ask is for said opinion to have respectable choice of words.
I am a baby army. It took me so long because I was not a kpop fan BUT when I found BTS at my lowest and was healed I know in my heart that these boys can be a big influence to my students. So, as of today, I used BTS speech esp RM (love yourself campaign) their music because that's what teenagers have to learn. I used BTS to influence them, to encourage them to be a better person. These 7 bangtans are down to earth, pure, kind and respectful millionaires. How about Joe Budden what is his contribution to the youth of today.?
Respect to you as a fellow educator. I was a teacher for 36 years. I played KPop videos in my classroom, during lunch. You should have seen all the kids that came and became ARMY! They're probably responding to Budden, rn! 😂
@@OGDimple hahaha I can literally relate.
BTS rappers could rip Joe apart lyrically. I listened to Joe's songs and was underwhelmed. I expected more from him. Joe is too ignorant to look at who he is dealing with. BTS are known for their lyricism.
💯, people only underestimate them because of the boy band title. They got me into rap, which I used to hate for decades.
Huh bro you serious I don’t like budden too but damnn he can write and obviously his pen is 1000 times stronger than you boy band lol
@@faktiman381 if u haven’t listened to bts rap line then ur opinion is invalid, they have a whole series of diss songs, two of the members were underground rappers, educate yourself before u talk
@@faktiman381 nah. Some of the lads started out rapping. Some songs are corny that's true. But some songs are fire. And much more intricate than Buddens.
I hate Budden and I am against him hating on BTS but they aren't touching Budden lyrically.
He's a clown but his lyricism is too slept on.
I'll prolly get hate from the army but I'm just stating the facts. Budden is corny af irl but on the mic, he's vicious.
When Eminem hated on boy bands he at least gave a reason. Joe is just doing whatever he can to catch headlines. And you said it perfectly he is the biggest disappointment in Hip Hop ever. Is narcissism outright killed what made him special and destroyed all his friendships.
🤣😂 thinking Joe owes you a reason for his opinions is the goofiest energy ever. Boy bands are soulless trash especially these cringe Korean backstreet boys
Eminem was referring to western boybands and he probably was right. BTS not really a boyband though so whatever Em said did not apply to them. I am both an Eminem and BTS fan. They have much in common..
Exactly and tbh the reason Eminem, to me, talked about boy bands was the fakeness, they don't write the songs/music or lyrics. The lyrics have no depth, the constant rhyming love and above and such 😅 obviously him and many others have no respect for that. And from what I hear about bts is they write all their own shit, it has positive messages, they worked hard and didn't have everything handed to them.
@@44LillPuffin Exactly this. All these Eminem mentions about boybands are true for the western ones and most of kpop ones. BTS is the exception because they started from the bottom and received so much hate for it and still do. They still have medium 3 companies in SK trying to destroy them along with their groups psychotic fans and the western industry hates them as well because they are poc and succeeding without their approval as well. BTS are true artists and cannot really be described as a boyband more like a male group. And they are different from kpop groups and western ones because they begun as a hip hop group and still their discography covers every genre of music. Also they talk about sociopolitical issues, and their work is inspired by literature and other form of art as well as psychology. They have a lot in common with Eminem in fact. And Eminem is one of the inspirations and artists BTS's rapline admires and are a fan of.
@@pennybleta9721 true he ain't a bad guy and ngl he was right about it while bts they haven't done anything wrong so idk wtf is wrong with people just hating on someone who are just minding their own business and doing their stuff🤦🏼♀️
I ain't a BTS guy, but judging by how many damn BTS reactions Knox does they are HUGE and crazy popular.....Joe just loves clout and drama and bullshit
Who is knox? I want to check him out
@@minsugamaxsalt Knox Hill.. He's a Hip-Hop head reaction TH-camr and he does all kinds of reactions.. And by far one of THE BEST lyric breakdown TH-camrs out there, I kid you not.. Plus, he himself is one amazing rapper and MC.. So, do check him out.. Dude's freaking awesome..
The 3 rappers in BTS can run circles around him for days.
PERIOD. 💜
as good those guys iare i dont think they can won a rap battle against joe.
@@katsuranotzura372 If Joe had to do half his bars in Korean (or any language other than English) = nah. He could never. He's just a bitter has-been (who never really was)... 🤷♀️
@@jerseybultaoreune6107 why would joe do his bars in korean when that is not his own language 🤦♀️ a bitter has been but i dont think anyone from bts could outrap him
@@katsuranotzura372 Well it would be kinda hard to have a battle in two different languages, right?
BTS has only ever had public beef with one artist, with was 8-9 years ago and we got some of the juiciest diss tracks from BTS, in the form of the cypher series, that are still extremely popular to this day. And that one artist that talked shit about them? yea, his entire career was ruined and he even got sent to jail :'D
Lmao true. I love that BTS only checked b free and responded to his bullshit because they knew him personally. They don’t waste time on people who they’ve never even met or heard of
Ah, yes. And we got to traumatised thate bitch on twitter when be was released from prison also, since it was right as McD has their BTS meal. Good times!!
It’s fine to not like the music, to each their own. But to “hate” them is harsh, esp for no reason. They’ve worked hard for what they have and you gotta respect that at least. Problem is people want to hate without knowing their facts.
I'm a metalhead who's been improving my hip hop ears and knowledge since Kamikaze where I started digging into the genre. But I love K-Pop too. I'm very picky with the groups and songs, but the list I have on Spotify I constructed after literally dedicating a whole afternoon going down the K-Pop rabbit hole discovering groups, styles etc. Even though I don't understand what they say I like how Korean sounds, especially on beats, reminds me of hip-hop the way it flows. The know how to make beats over there.
I'm opinion K-Pop is miles better than western pop, less bullshit content and more focused on good vibes, good music and really putting in work into the choreography. You can get down on the dance floor to more K-Pop music than western pop music. K-pop is pop done right, like pop back in the 80's.
A metalhead who loves kpop? Are you an InSomnia by chance?
You can get the English Covers of KPOP on YT and do "CC" on their Videos.
It always surprises me whenever I see hip hop and/or metalheads actually enjoying Kpop. Because they won't listen to western pop, but will tune in to listen to Kpop instead. Which is also in a totally different language, but yet, it still brings people together. I actually went to one of those KCON concerts in LA and there was so many different groups of people around. Young and older.
BTS can give economic gains to their country that's something . I was a fan since their debut in I mostly listen to their rap lyric songs
Hey, thanks for this! I'm in my 30s from Texas and I'm a full blown BTS army. BTS is what got me into Jordan Peterson and the great philosopher Carl Jung (one that jordan peterson quotes endlessly). In turn, I've been watching you for a while on your Jordan and "political" videos. (BTS connected you with people without even knowing). Needless to say, BTS changed my life. We just want people to put some RESPECT on it. 💜💜
BTS' leader, RM, actually said during one their FOUR SOLD OUT concerts at the Allegiant Stadium in Vegas, that some people are just haters. He said if doesn't like someone, he may talk about it to his friends at a cafe, but he would never take it to social media... because he's a "grown up". :D
LoL yes that was a very perfect commentary
Bro, how you feel about Joe Budden is exactly how us mixtape Joe Budden fans feel. I've been a fan of Joe since his Envy, Clue, OnPoint days. To see him turn into this spicy, diva ass, fake gatekeeper, headass. Dude is TMZ now, a complete waste of everything.
It’s a shame bc I watch his show saw all the Spotify shit and am rolling my eyes at all the lost opportunities he doesn’t even think of AND he wants to try to talk about industry stuff. His ego stops his own success. He can own his stuff and still be more than this piddly podcast getting out shown by other podcast/news.
Lk embarrassing bc I’m a BTS fan and know they were able to get stock; and their company, that grew bc of them, are the reason why US artists FINALLY got some stock in their management company. It’s sooooo cringy you hear him talk without much research.
He just mad they more relevant than he could ever be - with that big ass ego he carries between his shoulders...
Hi Stevie..this showed up while watching TH-cam for anything about BTS, I have been a fan for going on five years. So I took a minute to hear what you had to say, and I just want to say thank you for defending BTS. Not everyone has to like BTS, and yes there are some ARMY that would get quite upset if you didn’t, I call them young ARMY. I I will even say there’s one or two songs by BTS that I don’t particularly enjoy but I do adore them. Not only do they have music or songs they put out, but they also have so much content, such as Run BTS episodes - which is their own game shows. Bon Voyage, cameras follow them as they go on vacation outside of Korea. This is how we came to know and love BTS. We get to see their personalities off of the stage and how they truly interact with each other. Also, before there debut in 2013, they started videotaping themselves individually or with a partner or more telling us how they feel and what they are going through. They even give us backstage videos and usually go live after an award show or after their concerts and do live chats with ARMY or anyone who watches which is called VLive. 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
I'm not a fan of BTS but understand the hype and the work they've put on expanding their reach. Joe is a professional hater but fails to realize, everyone of those guys has done more for their own culture and genre than Joe has done for his. Still VIP for ever 🤣🤣🤣
Thank you. I love people like you who stand up for truth no matter who you love as a fan.
Some other fan would have agreed with Joe and bashed BTS because they are a competition to their favorite group but not you.
Bless up! ❤
As an big hip-hop old head I love BTS music. they are very good. thank u Stevie for putting some light on this
BTS is world wide.... they're the biggest act on the planet... period. It's all hate because none of the western artists are pulling the weight they are. Kpop is on it's way to becoming the biggest music genre on Earth, no cap. Most of your old school hip hop and R&B heads who use to write and produce all the dope music we love from the 80's and 90's work in kpop now and you hear that influence in certain groups... I dont hear that here in the states anymore and for me it's a blessing to see that still alive. MUSIC SHOULDN'T BE HATED ON IT SHOULD BE EMBRACED... ITS THE UNIVERSAL LANGUAGE OF ALL. Haha Army is going to straight Massacre his ass and it's going to be hilarious. I'm a hip hop and r&b head and I personally respect any artist that can push music in general to even greater heights. Respect the grind respect the success that was not given but earned. Great Analysis Bro... I enjoy your content and what you stand for!! Keep up the good work!!🙌🙌
"Kpop is on it's way to becoming the biggest music genre on Earth". NO CAP...
If you can sell out 4 nights at SoFi (Inglewood) and Allegiant (Las Vegas) and generate +$30M USD in ONE nights streaming (more than the opening weekends of some Hollywood movies. You know what's up.
@@jfprizzy honestly I disagree. BTS is carrying the kpop genre on their backs. Kpop can only became the biggest genre if at least a few acts dominate the industry. The biggest artists are mostly able to sell out a few arenas here and their, the type of impact you described is reserved to bts and bts only. They're like an industry anomaly. If you remove their achievements from the kpop reach, you wouldn't see anything really much impressive compared to other genres. Bts becoming the biggest act in the world doesn't mean kpop will be the biggest genre.
@@-amel-9896 Not exactly Blackpink is another group that is female that manages to compete with BTS atm. They have billions of views and even have more views than even some BTS videos. Whenever they put out a new MV they get the same #'s as BTS and even performed at Coachella. I acc knew them first b4 BTS. I like both groups so I'm not pitting them against each other but acknowledging that there r other very popular kpop groups in the West. Obviously BTS r the BIGGEST act so ppl tend to hyper focus on them. As a comparison, not achieving Michael Jackson popularity doesn't make other artists not successful in America. BTS popularity doesn't mean other kpop groups r not successful in the West at all. Kpop, has had a turnover w/ groups disbanding and new groups just debuting, it becomes very difficult to be a household name since so many r so new. However, I do agree that we shouldn't generalise BTS numbers to kpop as a whole. :)
@@MiSSK2078 Stop talking nonsense. Too bad we are in yt and I cannot show you the graphs of how kpop compares to BTS in terms of success. There are actual surveys that show kpop still is flop and nothing to do with BTS's success. You think the Coachella festival and yt questionable views from SEA countries mean success when they literally flop on the actual charts? The bar is in hell. You kpoppies need to stop being delusional.
@@-amel-9896 bruh no disrespect at all I understand where you're coming from but you gotta know more about what your talking about..... Girl groups for example.... Red Velvet one of my favs, Twice, and black pink, all toured here across the US, Canada, and Mexico and South America... Sold out every show. Each groups songs hundreds of millions of views and billions.... each album Top of the world charts and US..... iTunes... spotify etc. You get the picture.... they've each topped Western Artists time and time again and that's not my stats, thats factual numbers. That's not including what the Male groups do besides bts... stray kids, Exo, etc. You never hear about it because the western media keeps that info on a hush basis, but they're realizing now kpop is where the money is and now you see it unfolding. The fact of the Matter is kpop is the emerging music genre and alot of cats are salty about it. Hey good music is good music in any language and it should be embraced not downed on.
Blessing to you and your family Stevie. Nothing but love man from the UK man!
I'm bts fan since 2018 and I seen people like this guy hating for clout and saying nonsense but really respect for you when you see wrong speak about it it doesn't matter you like the guys or not 💜
I had BTS fattige like 3 years ago. If I don't wanna see it I just keep scrolling, problem solved.. Maaan.. Joe Budden is a whole fool, and acting more and more like a bitter old man for every time he say something publicly 😆
How does Joe Budden find a way to have beef with BTS HAHAHAHAHAHA...like...what??...Who has beef with BTS lol...Im not a fan but this is silly AF...come on Joe...lol.
Right! It’s not possible to have beef with anybody if it doesn’t go both ways🤣 you will not find one tweet or video of any of the BTS members talking shît about somebody even if they had a reason to. That’s just not who they are. So for somebody old enough to be their dad coming out the woodworks and hating on them like that is crazy.
@@jerseygirl6221 they prolly don't know who tf joe budden is
@-Amel- I don’t know, they’re very well rounded with hip hop artists whether they’re mainstream or not, but they don’t like name dropping when it comes to responding to hate so I guess we’ll never know🤣🤷🏾♀️
Yeah all the beef bts has is one sided, and it's not coming from Bts' end 💀 any time they address hate (whether through a song/cypher, or briefly talk about it) they dont name people specifically they just say what they say and if it applies to you it applies to you lol. They dont get into drama but people always try to bring drama to them when all they do is mind their business.
Simple. He's ignorant,and has no idea what he is talking about. I've never heard of him until this video and I was alive when hip hop was born and listen to current mainstream and independent rap artists. They are hard working young men with major talent. You would never catch them saying that about anyone else
Hilarity ensues. Firstly, did not know this "joe" existed but ok. Secondly, he used that "china" thing knowingly; biggest insult to a Korean is to be called chinese or japanese. Thirdly, I'm assuming he didn't have a problem with Silk Sonic performing and winning three grammys. Well, guess what Anderson Paak is, yup, Korean. His mother is of part Korean heritage and born in South Korea. And guess what else? His wife is full Korean all the way from South Korea which makes his children more Korean than this never-been can handle. Lastly, Paak is a Korean last name and Anderson refers to himself not as "blasian" but "niggerean". and he's darn proud of it.
I don't get how people say something is trash or that they hate it without even knowing a single thing about it! That's just very disturbing to me and makes me ashamed as a Human Being. I can't believe that there are so many people around the world like him!
You just gained some major respect from me for that shirt bro. TALK YOUR SHIT!
Man, those guy even had people doing insane lanes on McDonald for a freaking subpar burger just recently! ... Joe Budden just murdered his own ass
This comment is hilarious bc it's true!!!
As a avid Kpop fan and non BTS "fan" (I listen to some of their music but they are not my top.) I wanted to hear exactly what he said. If he said I really don't vibe with it, it's not my thing, or something similar, I wouldn't have cared. He is clearly seeking negative attention like a toddler and he is being handed it now with three letters. 🙄
He literally said, "I hate them BTS "Ni***s" "I don't wanna see them dance, I don't wanna see them come from the ceiling"(and other stuff like that...... basically hating and sounding real salty about their Grammy performance lol smh 🤦🏾♀️ he even mentioned their jacket trick they did
how you gone hate them but you watching them that hard, enough to be able to describe the trick he's hating on? 😂
Never been a fan of BTS but I 100% respect what they’re doing, how can you hate on somebody that’s doing what they love and getting money from it
More importantly, saving lives and healing people around the world crossing language and cultural barriers, helping people get through the difficult times and helping people learn to love themselves
2:46 If he says he doesn't like BTS' music, it's his right to have personal taste.
The problem is: he later claims that he HATES BTS, and hasn't even heard any work from them!
Besides calling them Chinese while they are Asian yes, but from South Korea!And with great pride!
Imagine if the rapline met Em and they made a Cypher just for Budden. 🤣🤣
I'm not a fan of theirs, but they have more talent and fans than Budden could ever hope to have. The dude is nothing but a bitter old man jealous at anothers success. Nothing but a hater and clout chaser.
I do like BTS and I am not some crazy Stan I like what they stand for they helped my daughter through a lot of mental health stuff but he was mad disrespectful and has no idea like the guys video said he knows NOTHING about them or their history and lemme tell you KPOP stans don't play haha
We are not kpop stans though that's the difference and the root of the problem as well. We are only Army or BTS's fans. Most of us do not like kpop.
@@pennybleta9721 yes your exactly right
bts does ALL genres of music they also do hip hop. kpop is NOT a genre of music its just music in korean.
you should react to bts give them a chance. :)
I love how ARMYs from all over the world have gathered here to give lessons to the newbies and recruit new ARMYS but also being respectful enough not to force them to like BTS. This is why our fandom is the most loyal and biggest fandom in the world. Borahae💜
Stevie all we need is for the rap line to come back and end his career, Agustd and Rm will finish him. He has no idea who he is fucking with.
100%. They just think BTS and it's automatically Butter and Dynamite haha. If only he knew... but his prejudice and xenophobia prevents him from just doing a quick or deep search. I'm glad I did as a hard rap and hip-hop fan. Holy shit I was impressed.
I have never heard of him but everyone knows bts. They dedicated many songs for people like him. 💜💜💜
Ohhhhhh he went and said shit about the wrong group of guys...there is a reason their fandom is called ARMY!!! These 7 men are more protected than any royalty or v.i.p ..unfortunately there's no cure for ignorance,or just being a general f@#ktard
All I can say is Joe you did this to yourself !!!!!! As an army myself I'm gonna quote the guys..plz stay healthy lol 💜💜
"THese 7 men are more protected than any royalty or v.i.p." - That is some TRUTH, if i ever heard any!!! 🤣
Also thank you for this video ! BTS actually had MORE non Korean fans that was how they got acknowledged. Now they are globally popular everywhere (including Korea). I appreciate you
Army...and yes we will defend our boys bc we know their full story. Most of us don't ask for everyone to listen to them or have any certain opinion of them we just want respect for them.
👏👏💜💜
@@Darkstar_Dayne Look at this, corny fans trying to come together trying to cancel another man because you do not like his opinions🤣. Eminem fans need to worry about that rock and roll hall of fame voting that they're losing.
@@UnitedPacci which opinion, he had no opinion, he was just hating
Aww lemme tell you why you’re an army it’s because you have no life or friends you’ve achieved nothing to identify with so this boy band and people who are similar to you gives you hope and an identity that you’ve craved all your life but never got you’re living your dreams through them but sadly you still ain’t shit they are so get out of this bubble of we gonna defend my group we gonna cancel people and focus on your life its way bigger than bts for you
@@UnitedPacci how tf is racially discriminating someone an opinion bruh
Great review and video 👏 very classy and organized. You're appreciated
Joe walks in : people laugh
Suga walks in: People literally play Daechwita.
Who's the boss?
I'm a big fan of BTS, but you don't have to be :) I appreciate you listening to them and giving your opinion. Joe Budden sounds like either he's jealous or is looking for attention. Well, he got it.
BTS stans are called the Army. I asked my 13 year old daughter.
Fun fact: most of the fandom is 20-50 years old
Know your resources lol
"China." I am obviously an ARMY, but I felt embarrassment when he said "from China", not even offense from that. Sheesh. You hating on someone you do not even know about. I could never. I better be even zipped when I hate someone out of ignorance.
You smarter then that 😩….NO HE AINT 👀….🤣👍
I think Joe heard that they like Em so it hurt his butt… LOL…
Honestly don't mind him hating on music lol but the china shit was just ignorant. Shit he's probably mad because he's heard them accidentily and didn't realize he started moving to their rhythm. But in all honesty it's not a big deal to me, hate their music if you want don't matter.
The only sensible comment lol
Oh I’m sure he was bopping to butter, by the way he described their Grammy performance in detail means he sat through the whole thing, that sounds like closeted fan behavior🤣 I don’t get hating on shit for no reason but just make sure you can take it after you dished it out🤷🏾♀️
Its like twitch chat equating anything asian with being a weeb 🤪👏
Its strange to me how a fan of disney is watever, but a fan of anime is considered a weeb
How you have beef with BTS of all people lmfao like you really got to reach for that 😂
I liked the music BTS used to put out before they were trying to have a wider appeal, but there are definitely other "Kpop" groups that are more hip hop that I definitely enjoy a lot more (and I'm sure you would too).
Also hilariously, BTS has a song called "mic drop" and they did a remix with Steve Aoki that is actually a bop.
We’re called ARMY for a reason. If you put on CC you’ll understand what their saying.
I don't rock to bts myself BUT their hustle is 💯.Joe salty af cuz he will never be on their level.
Lol .
RULE number 1 in music
NEVER AND I MEAN NEVER...SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT KPOP EVER....Just say its not your cup of tea. Its safer that way .
RULE 2-
IF YOU GO SPEAK DOWN ON BTS OR INSULT THEM..YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA LIFE IS OVER....RIP
They never forgot. He will have to apolpgize but half of them will still hate him.
Ps Animal advocates everywhere should also be mad at him cuz thats just disturbing what he said about pets
Thank you for this 💜
Yes! They are Korean! What is the problem with that! One of my uncles fought in the Korean war! And he married a Korean woman! People are people! Just like that!
This is that whole "No one listens to Eminem in the hood!" rhetoric. Like the only thing that matters is whats on your block. This just suggests that Budden may not be fit for a global audience. Or is better served in small doses.
Or he’s just small minded🤣
Thank you 💜
this was a great video to watch...thanks for speaking on this topic!
They won "Artist of the Yea"r at the AMA's
That's a huge Joe Budden L, I mean, no doubt he's starting to become less and less relevant.
Oh he is DONE now.
You know its a good ol' Stevie-Clap when his dog get scared from it xD
Budden knows that controversy generates clicks and massive social media traffic. He might be thinking, "It's all money" even when he's being clowned and attacked by the BTS army. If he thought Eminem stans were aggressive, he's about to see a whole new level. It's going to be a rough ride for Joe, even if his compensation goes up.
We don’t care if you don’t like their music. That’s fine. We all have opinions. BUT you should never be disrespectful no matter how you feel about the music.
You sure he didn't mean ka-ching?? Like Money?? 💵 💵 💵 💰!! as the Army continues 💜 to grow. 💕
Aquí en mi país (donde sinceramente no es ni la mitad de reconocido), es conocido como el señor que insultó a bts
He’s jealous of their fame. Thinks he is way above them so their fame messes with his world view.
Bro “Royal Knight” that’s the dopest name I’ve ever heard!!😂
Joe just hates that them youngins are already billionaires lol
ARMY is what our name and he said He Hate it them but gave no reason whatsoever and compare them to NSCY .
I think that people who hate others and won't specify a reason in public is because they KNOW that their reason is not appropriate and would receive a lot of backlash. I have friends who won't try and listen to 'KPop' because they generalize all KPop to perhaps one song or performance that they didn't care for. This is like listening to one American pop or rock song, not liking it and just dismissing a whole genre. It is crazy.
Love the tatt stevie ✊️ dope asf big respect . Love the content as always keeping it 💯
I need army's to let Joe talk his shit and just quietly continue to support BTS and let their success speak for itself because that's how BTS does it. It's the ultimate revenge honestly.
couldn’t agree with you more!!!
Sounds like jealously 🤨! I agree with you 💯 👍
The amount of disrespect by reactors not putting on the super gremlin remix by Joell and Crook is staggering!
Rm was a fan of Em when he was like 14, and bought the CD. So I know you and RM share some common appreciation.
Stevie, is hilarious.. but keeping it 💯.. Respect 🙌🏽
Budden doesn't honor his own word... so $#&@% him!!!
BTW, I don't even like BTS, who, are from *South Korea* , Joe, *South Korea* !!!
Can I suggest this song? 😅 th-cam.com/video/UDuaJGYe8EQ/w-d-xo.html
bts to joe budden " our biggest flops is your greatest hits! "
Hey Stevie!
I know you into checking out Korean rap sometimes. I wanted to recommend Vannda - one of the hottest rappers out of Cambodia
He dropped a video recently for Bok Kalo on TH-cam. Just wanted to recommend/request a reaction vid! Have a nice day 😁
when I listen to them bts stunned their lyrics have a deep meaning and their dance is so good ....and their energy is fucking good and i think many male are listening to their music including me....
If even the comments under the Shaderoom's post are defending BTS, which we never expect them to do, it really shows how almost no one will stand with him on this one
He mad that it's not him, he mad they got more success then him. Like Bezino to Em.