Bam developing a dribble drive game is INFINITELY more interesting to me than him shooting 3s, even though they are connected. I kind of only care about the 3s as a step for him to attract close outs for him to attack.
@PointJovic , Just imagine if Bam was actually athletic enough to just dunk the ball more often, like Blake Griffin, Aaron Gordon, Shawn Kemp, Dwight Howard, Giannis. His ceiling and the Heat's ceiling would be much greater if he could figure out a way to get more easy baskets in the paint. IMO, Bam should've skipped the Olympics because he already has a gold medal and went down to Houston for the entire summer to work with Hakeem on his footwork and post moves. If Bam's the new franchise player by default, then he needs to elevate his offensive game Defense wins championships, but offense wins games. So, Bam needs to elevate his offense to help the Heat win more games to be in a better position to win a championship with his good defense
Wes said it's a "What have you done for me lately League" So what has Pat done Lately???? Oh yeah, Take Credit for Wade's Work ‼️ Ps We just saw Bam as Miami's best player, against Boston.... And we saw how that Ended 😂 And i Love Bam
I need Spo to quick tinkering with lineups. Find the best 5 and stick with it the best teams even before the season starts know who there best starting 5 is
I just find it so crazy when he expect so much out of one player when he don’t have another star on the team to take the load off him most teams have 2 stars the heat don’t
The reason Jimmy has the most to prove is he is the one with the loudest mouth in the NBA that has never won a ring. Herro SUCKS and everyone already knows that. Jimmy is now old and injury prone and needs to keep his mouth shut, just like Pat said, until he can play a great full season and playoffs and help lead this team with Bam to a ring.
This whole Jimmy Butler thing is idiotic to me from the Heat side. Make a decision on him and roll with it. You know what Jimmy is. He is old and has a lot of miles, his body is betraying him. He will give you everything he has in the playoffs. Cannot give you that all year. Do you want that or not? You cannot ask him to “prove it” when proving it means overcoming what your body is inevitably going to do. He is willing to play on a trashed knee for 3 quarters of a playoff game, where you lost. He played through injury in an entire series against Denver, that you lost. He is what he is because of the blood, sweat, and tears he poured into basketball his whole career. What’s left of him is what’s left of him. It’s out of his control.
@@PointJovic can you retype that in all caps, the jimmy disrespect is sickening. Talk about spo lineups and pat not putting another long wing to help smh
As a big herro fan he still has one major thing to prove. He has to prove that he can be a high leaving scoring and playmaking third/second option on a competitive heat team. In the two years he’s been a night in night out starter he hasn’t done that. Two seasons ago he had a solid year but he broke his hand against the bucks and missed the playoffs and this year he was injured all the time and then in the playoffs the team stood no chance. So both seasons he hasn’t played a full season. Injuries are not in his control but that doesn’t change the fact that we haven’t seen him have healthy run as a 2nd/3rd option starter yet
Bam has more to prove. Jimmy could be off the Heat by the end of next season. It will become Bam’s team; it was never supposed to be Tyler’s team, and if Bam doesn’t take a huge leap the future is bleak with him being a max contract in the new CBA
You obviously don’t know ball Jimmy is supposed to be the #1 all star player he wants to get paid like one yet last season he was horrible and not to mention he’s going on 35 herro on the other hand is a young 3rd option as long as he’s healthy he’ll be ok
@knowledgeseeker1528 , Yep, people don't hold Bam more accountable because deep down, they know he's not capable of doing more. So instinctively, they don't have higher expectations for him like they do Jimmy, who's already proven he can carry a team and elevate his play in the playoffs To many Heat fans, Bam is all the Heat definitely have for the future, and if they were to tell the truth about him, they would be less enthusiastic about the team's future
Just imagine if Bam had the ability to just dunk the ball more often, like Blake Griffin, Aaron Gordon, Shawn Kemp, Dwight Howard, and Giannis His ceiling and the Heat's ceiling would be much greater if he could figure out a way to get more easy baskets in the paint. IMO, Bam should've skipped the Olympics because he already has a gold medal and went down to Houston for the entire summer to work with Hakeem on his footwork and post moves. If Bam's the new franchise player by default, then he needs to elevate his offensive game Defense wins championships, but offense wins games. So, Bam needs to elevate his offense to help the Heat win more games to be in a better position to win a championship with his good defense
The Jimmy slander has to stop. He's the primary reason the Heat have been as successful as they have since he signed with the team. Pat Riley gave Jimmy the max-extension he currently has when his career history has always been, including his first few seasons with the Heat before Riley extended his contract, that he's not a prolific scorer in the regular season, misses about 20 games or so a season, but always elevates his play in the playoffs Pat Riley recruits older players to sign wirh Miami and tells them he'll allow them to take time off to manage their bodies and for personal family matters. If Riley was unhappy with Jimmy's availability and play last season, he needs to take accountability himself for giving an older player an extension and promising them they could load-manage during the season Fans need to stop blaming Jimmy so much for the Heat's poor regular season. Bam, at 26, has a max contract and couldn't even average 20 pts per game and disappears at times. Herro, who also got a big extension, missed almost the whole regular season. And the rest of the Heat Culture guys just weren't good enough to get the job done. Playoff Jimmy has covered up for Pat Riley's poor roster management. The Heat's 3 best players don't even fit and play well together. Stop blaming Jimmy for everything. 79 year old Pat Riley is who Heat fans should be focusing on and want gone.
True. Yet all of that is in the past. Cannot afford to pay a guy for the past under these new rules man. And I am a Jimmy guy. I want him to stay. Yet, objectively, he is declining and if we think it's bad now, the future years will be worse due to his style of play, Tibb mins on his body, no respected 3pt shot, etc.
@@Miles_305 and when he sign the extension at the middle or end of this season would be in the past as well that’s with every contract it’s based off your resume
@fs6688 , If that's how you feel about Jimmy, then use your brain to comprehend what said and blame Riley for signing a "nobody" and giving him a big max contract extension at an older age. And if "glazing" is on your mind when we're talking about sports, then obviously that's what you like to do
What on earth does Jimmy have to prove? He is at minimum a top 3 Heat player of all time. He was a top 3 playoff performer in multiple postseasons, he has MULTIPLE top 15 playoff games of all time from any player ever. His record is unimpeachable. If Pat and Andy had done their jobs and given him reasonable talent instead of scrappy undrafted guys and one-way exploitable guys he would already have hung a banner. Very disrespectful to what he has accomplished here. Don't like the venom the front office and now the Heat media that carries water for the front office has been slinging on his name. If not for the miracle work of Jimmy the last 10 years of Heat basketball would have been disgraceful and Pat Riley's reputation would deservedly be in the dirt. Put some respect on the guy who has carried everything since Wade left.
We need Jimmy to play like a Star every night that's what comes with being the best player on a team. And Bam needs to show if he's a piece to the puzzle or if he can really be a lead 1A guy which we don't know yet.
@@tj2fly883 Bam needs to prove he's a franchise player who can carry a team during the regular season and playoffs to justify the big max-extension his just got. To whom much is given much is expected
looking beyond this season for championship hopes is ironic. can it be said this year is a transition period and jimmy's ornamental in pursuing a play off spot only? big on next year and play off's the ceiling?
David Ramil why the hell does bam have anything to prove are you slow? Bam has nothing to prove the front office does by puttin a damn competent roster around him
Stop giving the Heat's front office a pass for clearance shopping to fill the roster. The same roster issues from the bubble have yet to be addressed. Plus, we all see how DIRTY each play was that injured Jimmy back to back years.
LMAO no one gives af about SL championships hahaha. What the players do there and who they play against is literally NO COMPARISON to the NBA and the actual talent from team to team. Teams with REAL young talent, that actually will play NBA minutes or will be stars, dont even play those players in SL or they let them play one game maybe 2 with limited minutes and then sit them. How stupid can you be?? SL doesnt even give any idea as to who has the best G LEAGUE team bc some of the more important GL players still dont even play in SL LMAO. 3 to 4 players that are going ot be good hahahahaha absolute fantasy world from the team with one of the worst group of young players in the NBA and not a single top 3 tier talent LOL
The only thing tyler has to prove and that he belongs on the heat if not trade him thats it. He has given nothing for 3 years should have been left this team
NO ONE WANTS HIM. How are MIA fans so freaking blind to how trades work? Youve seen that no one wants him, even as salary in a bigger trade, definitely not with his trash contract AND getting any sort of asset back. NO ONE WANTS HERRO, HE IS YOURS
I think the reason Tyler hit his ceiling is because while he has physical limitations there are things he could have done to make those things less of a problem. Look at Bane in Memphis, he doesn’t have a long wingspan, he’s more athletic than Tyler but the main thing is, he’s strong. Tyler has been super skinny and hasn’t transformed his body at all
The issue I see? Tyler IS a 6th man in a starting spot. Which sucks. He earned the spot when called on at training camp but in reality he should’ve stayed at 6th. They should bring Jimmy back to 2 and put Bam at the 4 to get the best out of them, hopefully reducing injuries for Jimmy
Problem is Bam and Tyler do well during the regular season and Jimmy coasts. Then playoff time comes Bam and Tyler dissapear and Jimmy playing hard but we're the 8th seed or play-in team.
Tyler has to learn to play like Duncan he is the piece that doesnt fit Jimmy and Bam have been the main stays in all our finals and east finals Herro needs to stop trying to shoot the mid range and score either at the basket or from 3 if he doesnt bench him
I'm 💯 with Wes. We know what Tyler is (even if Tyler doesn't😅). Time to stop beating him down. Jimmy gets "i'm him!" Money and is down in damn near every offensive and defensive stat...he has loads to prove esp. In the reg season to get max money. The dark side of "Playoff Jimmy" is that you get "Coasting Jimmy" most the season.
Lmao wes what do u kean b4 everyone got hurt and left him on an island. That mf got hurt the 7th game of the season and they were 3-4 lmao tyler stinks
Trade Tyler... He's Proven he's a Guy.... And he's not a Real 20ppg scorer... He get a Bunch of shots, because he plays with 2 Non score first scorers.... His numbers are Empty... They're Better Without Him
And wes bam is too busy on the offensive side bein the hub gettin everyone open with screens and dho's to do more for himself on offense. Jesus yal know nothing of basketball
@kamerongrossi3471 , If you think Jimmy gives AF about what's said about him on social media, them you haven't learned anything about Jimmy since he's been on the team.
Jimmy will break down and get injured if he gives maximum effort and plays 70 games in the regular season. I’m done with his laziness and his BS. Trade him so he can go to tennis matches and make coffee for another team.
Jimmy doesn’t have nothing to prove u should be mad at Tyler jimmy the only reason this team has gotten this far he don’t have another superstar to help him like most team I wish yall would get this threw yall head
Bam developing a dribble drive game is INFINITELY more interesting to me than him shooting 3s, even though they are connected. I kind of only care about the 3s as a step for him to attract close outs for him to attack.
@PointJovic , Just imagine if Bam was actually athletic enough to just dunk the ball more often, like Blake Griffin, Aaron Gordon, Shawn Kemp, Dwight Howard, Giannis. His ceiling and the Heat's ceiling would be much greater if he could figure out a way to get more easy baskets in the paint.
IMO, Bam should've skipped the Olympics because he already has a gold medal and went down to Houston for the entire summer to work with Hakeem on his footwork and post moves. If Bam's the new franchise player by default, then he needs to elevate his offensive game
Defense wins championships, but offense wins games. So, Bam needs to elevate his offense to help the Heat win more games to be in a better position to win a championship with his good defense
Wes said it's a "What have you done for me lately League" So what has Pat done Lately???? Oh yeah, Take Credit for Wade's Work ‼️ Ps We just saw Bam as Miami's best player, against Boston.... And we saw how that Ended 😂 And i Love Bam
I need Spo to quick tinkering with lineups. Find the best 5 and stick with it the best teams even before the season starts know who there best starting 5 is
Bam and herro have everything to prove Jimmy has nothing to prove he has carry the heat since he been in this team
Finally a video of Heat talking heads being honest 🎉👏🏼
Tyler Herro is the most coddled role player in the NBA
Wes, I am sorry, but your takes on Jimmy lack objectivity. Jimmy has nothing to prove. The one with the most to prove is Tyler, at number one.
Yep, all Jimmy has to do now is stay Blk and die. He's set financially for life, and his basketball legacy is secured.
Wes has been a hater for months now I’m so tired of him
I just find it so crazy when he expect so much out of one player when he don’t have another star on the team to take the load off him most teams have 2 stars the heat don’t
Tyler & Bam. Jimmy did his part. Neither Bam nor Tyler have done anything other than have 1 great postseason game, while Jimmy has had many
The reason Jimmy has the most to prove is he is the one with the loudest mouth in the NBA that has never won a ring. Herro SUCKS and everyone already knows that. Jimmy is now old and injury prone and needs to keep his mouth shut, just like Pat said, until he can play a great full season and playoffs and help lead this team with Bam to a ring.
This whole Jimmy Butler thing is idiotic to me from the Heat side. Make a decision on him and roll with it.
You know what Jimmy is. He is old and has a lot of miles, his body is betraying him. He will give you everything he has in the playoffs. Cannot give you that all year. Do you want that or not?
You cannot ask him to “prove it” when proving it means overcoming what your body is inevitably going to do. He is willing to play on a trashed knee for 3 quarters of a playoff game, where you lost. He played through injury in an entire series against Denver, that you lost.
He is what he is because of the blood, sweat, and tears he poured into basketball his whole career. What’s left of him is what’s left of him. It’s out of his control.
@@PointJovic THANK YOU
@@PointJovic can you retype that in all caps, the jimmy disrespect is sickening. Talk about spo lineups and pat not putting another long wing to help smh
As a big herro fan he still has one major thing to prove. He has to prove that he can be a high leaving scoring and playmaking third/second option on a competitive heat team. In the two years he’s been a night in night out starter he hasn’t done that. Two seasons ago he had a solid year but he broke his hand against the bucks and missed the playoffs and this year he was injured all the time and then in the playoffs the team stood no chance. So both seasons he hasn’t played a full season. Injuries are not in his control but that doesn’t change the fact that we haven’t seen him have healthy run as a 2nd/3rd option starter yet
Herro was never supposed to be a 1. He is the 3rd best kind of guy!
He's more like a 6th Best, but he's paid Too Much for that
Nobody has nothing to prove but Tyler hero that’s why he needs to come off the bench if not trade him
Bam has more to prove. Jimmy could be off the Heat by the end of next season. It will become Bam’s team; it was never supposed to be Tyler’s team, and if Bam doesn’t take a huge leap the future is bleak with him being a max contract in the new CBA
You obviously don’t know ball Jimmy is supposed to be the #1 all star player he wants to get paid like one yet last season he was horrible and not to mention he’s going on 35 herro on the other hand is a young 3rd option as long as he’s healthy he’ll be ok
@@Mac2MonThis exactly, people always give bam a pass.
@knowledgeseeker1528 , Yep, people don't hold Bam more accountable because deep down, they know he's not capable of doing more. So instinctively, they don't have higher expectations for him like they do Jimmy, who's already proven he can carry a team and elevate his play in the playoffs
To many Heat fans, Bam is all the Heat definitely have for the future, and if they were to tell the truth about him, they would be less enthusiastic about the team's future
Just imagine if Bam had the ability to just dunk the ball more often, like Blake Griffin, Aaron Gordon, Shawn Kemp, Dwight Howard, and Giannis His ceiling and the Heat's ceiling would be much greater if he could figure out a way to get more easy baskets in the paint.
IMO, Bam should've skipped the Olympics because he already has a gold medal and went down to Houston for the entire summer to work with Hakeem on his footwork and post moves. If Bam's the new franchise player by default, then he needs to elevate his offensive game
Defense wins championships, but offense wins games. So, Bam needs to elevate his offense to help the Heat win more games to be in a better position to win a championship with his good defense
I agree with Wes takes on Jimmy and Bam 💯💯💯💯
@@Taino727 i can't agree with wes until somebody tell me what Jimmy's role is on this team,
@@FrederickGreen-hi7qc his role is the Star player on the team and needs to play it
The Jimmy slander has to stop. He's the primary reason the Heat have been as successful as they have since he signed with the team.
Pat Riley gave Jimmy the max-extension he currently has when his career history has always been, including his first few seasons with the Heat before Riley extended his contract, that he's not a prolific scorer in the regular season, misses about 20 games or so a season, but always elevates his play in the playoffs
Pat Riley recruits older players to sign wirh Miami and tells them he'll allow them to take time off to manage their bodies and for personal family matters. If Riley was unhappy with Jimmy's availability and play last season, he needs to take accountability himself for giving an older player an extension and promising them they could load-manage during the season
Fans need to stop blaming Jimmy so much for the Heat's poor regular season. Bam, at 26, has a max contract and couldn't even average 20 pts per game and disappears at times. Herro, who also got a big extension, missed almost the whole regular season. And the rest of the Heat Culture guys just weren't good enough to get the job done.
Playoff Jimmy has covered up for Pat Riley's poor roster management. The Heat's 3 best players don't even fit and play well together. Stop blaming Jimmy for everything. 79 year old Pat Riley is who Heat fans should be focusing on and want gone.
True. Yet all of that is in the past. Cannot afford to pay a guy for the past under these new rules man. And I am a Jimmy guy. I want him to stay. Yet, objectively, he is declining and if we think it's bad now, the future years will be worse due to his style of play, Tibb mins on his body, no respected 3pt shot, etc.
@@Miles_305 and when he sign the extension at the middle or end of this season would be in the past as well that’s with every contract it’s based off your resume
@@shawncain882 facts 💯, been saying this since 2023 season
Oh please, he hasn’t achieved anything, and he was a nobody before the Heat. Stop the glazing
@fs6688 , If that's how you feel about Jimmy, then use your brain to comprehend what said and blame Riley for signing a "nobody" and giving him a big max contract extension at an older age.
And if "glazing" is on your mind when we're talking about sports, then obviously that's what you like to do
Tyler Herro is NOT too good to be a role player
He is a top 70-80 level player in the league. That is not too good to be a role player
What on earth does Jimmy have to prove? He is at minimum a top 3 Heat player of all time. He was a top 3 playoff performer in multiple postseasons, he has MULTIPLE top 15 playoff games of all time from any player ever. His record is unimpeachable. If Pat and Andy had done their jobs and given him reasonable talent instead of scrappy undrafted guys and one-way exploitable guys he would already have hung a banner. Very disrespectful to what he has accomplished here.
Don't like the venom the front office and now the Heat media that carries water for the front office has been slinging on his name. If not for the miracle work of Jimmy the last 10 years of Heat basketball would have been disgraceful and Pat Riley's reputation would deservedly be in the dirt. Put some respect on the guy who has carried everything since Wade left.
Tyler my guy, Jimmy just gotta stay healthy throughout the regular season, headed into the playoffs, and in the playoffs. Just like Tyler Herro
Running it back most likely similar results.
Wes you full of spit about Jimmy. This dude be tripping
We need Jimmy to play like a Star every night that's what comes with being the best player on a team. And Bam needs to show if he's a piece to the puzzle or if he can really be a lead 1A guy which we don't know yet.
bam has most to prove…ridiculous sometime u guys just say anything
@@tj2fly883 Bam needs to prove he's a franchise player who can carry a team during the regular season and playoffs to justify the big max-extension his just got. To whom much is given much is expected
@@shawncain882 He needs help. Bam can't do it himself
@@tylerriley2587 , No one's asking him to do everything himself, but he needs to do more to justify his larger salary and franchise player status
@@shawncain882 I mean, it’s hard to trade him because nobody wants that contract
I wasnt Chicago Jimmy no jokes no nothing but hooping and seriousness especially during the season 🎉
looking beyond this season for championship hopes is ironic. can it be said this year is a transition period and jimmy's ornamental in pursuing a play off spot only? big on next year and play off's the ceiling?
David Ramil why the hell does bam have anything to prove are you slow? Bam has nothing to prove the front office does by puttin a damn competent roster around him
Stop giving the Heat's front office a pass for clearance shopping to fill the roster. The same roster issues from the bubble have yet to be addressed. Plus, we all see how DIRTY each play was that injured Jimmy back to back years.
When are you guys going to talk about the Miami Heat Summer team is in the Championship game and they have 3 to 4 players that are going to good.
LMAO no one gives af about SL championships hahaha. What the players do there and who they play against is literally NO COMPARISON to the NBA and the actual talent from team to team. Teams with REAL young talent, that actually will play NBA minutes or will be stars, dont even play those players in SL or they let them play one game maybe 2 with limited minutes and then sit them. How stupid can you be?? SL doesnt even give any idea as to who has the best G LEAGUE team bc some of the more important GL players still dont even play in SL LMAO. 3 to 4 players that are going ot be good hahahahaha absolute fantasy world from the team with one of the worst group of young players in the NBA and not a single top 3 tier talent LOL
Oh please, Summer League means nothing
The only thing tyler has to prove and that he belongs on the heat if not trade him thats it. He has given nothing for 3 years should have been left this team
NO ONE WANTS HIM. How are MIA fans so freaking blind to how trades work? Youve seen that no one wants him, even as salary in a bigger trade, definitely not with his trash contract AND getting any sort of asset back. NO ONE WANTS HERRO, HE IS YOURS
Jimmy was great for Miami but he's 35 we've seen the proof but that window is closed now
I think the reason Tyler hit his ceiling is because while he has physical limitations there are things he could have done to make those things less of a problem. Look at Bane in Memphis, he doesn’t have a long wingspan, he’s more athletic than Tyler but the main thing is, he’s strong. Tyler has been super skinny and hasn’t transformed his body at all
Keep the beard
The issue I see? Tyler IS a 6th man in a starting spot. Which sucks. He earned the spot when called on at training camp but in reality he should’ve stayed at 6th.
They should bring Jimmy back to 2 and put Bam at the 4 to get the best out of them, hopefully reducing injuries for Jimmy
Tyler will thrive on a team like Golden State
Problem is Bam and Tyler do well during the regular season and Jimmy coasts. Then playoff time comes Bam and Tyler dissapear and Jimmy playing hard but we're the 8th seed or play-in team.
Tyler misses half of the regular season
Kel'el, Bam, Jovic, Jimmy, Terry starting five. Whoever off the bench.
And yes, Jimmy needs to play. Horrible season last year.
Long live Locked on Heat ❤🙏
Paying Jimmy 50 million plus until he is 36 years old is plenty fair from the Heat. Nobody should be acting like they haven't taken care of Jimmy
Tyler has to learn to play like Duncan he is the piece that doesnt fit Jimmy and Bam have been the main stays in all our finals and east finals Herro needs to stop trying to shoot the mid range and score either at the basket or from 3 if he doesnt bench him
Tyler herro needs to come off the bench
I'm 💯 with Wes. We know what Tyler is (even if Tyler doesn't😅). Time to stop beating him down. Jimmy gets "i'm him!" Money and is down in damn near every offensive and defensive stat...he has loads to prove esp. In the reg season to get max money. The dark side of "Playoff Jimmy" is that you get "Coasting Jimmy" most the season.
Bam been the best player all around on both sides last 2 seasons..😮
If Bam is your 1A leader of the team youre not winning anything of any importance
@@grapeape1965 💤 nobody cares better than losing with jimmy so u got no point we ain't won nothing with jimmy idk why people act like Miami has
@@Therantguyyeazy and we damn sho ain’t winning with bam he couldn’t even get 40 in the playoffs
@@Blazenetwork1990 u just talking 😂 dude the main reason we got a game vs Denver and Boston just this last year
@@Blazenetwork199040? He can’t even give you 30 lol
Lmao wes what do u kean b4 everyone got hurt and left him on an island. That mf got hurt the 7th game of the season and they were 3-4 lmao tyler stinks
Tyler is just 24. I think he will figure it out. He is determined to be great.
He sucks
Trade Tyler... He's Proven he's a Guy.... And he's not a Real 20ppg scorer... He get a Bunch of shots, because he plays with 2 Non score first scorers.... His numbers are Empty... They're Better Without Him
And wes bam is too busy on the offensive side bein the hub gettin everyone open with screens and dho's to do more for himself on offense. Jesus yal know nothing of basketball
I see Jimmy logged in too all his burner accounts
@kamerongrossi3471 , If you think Jimmy gives AF about what's said about him on social media, them you haven't learned anything about Jimmy since he's been on the team.
@@shawncain882 lmao buddy doesn’t get a joke
@kamerongrossi3471 , Bad joke, good jokes are rooted in some truth or something believable. No one has even liked your comment/joke, so..
@@shawncain882 ok jimmy on a burner account
Jimmy will break down and get injured if he gives maximum effort and plays 70 games in the regular season. I’m done with his laziness and his BS. Trade him so he can go to tennis matches and make coffee for another team.
Jimmy doesn’t have nothing to prove u should be mad at Tyler jimmy the only reason this team has gotten this far he don’t have another superstar to help him like most team I wish yall would get this threw yall head