thats why if you have someone camping on their airfield you just dive on them and missle their camping asses the sams rarely can get you before you get into cannon range if you are going mach
@@firestarteronyoutube5542 well I think that it's 5km. But if you are going for a airfield strafe I would start around 8km altitude and redline the whole thing at a appropriate angle to pull up after the run. (Or kamakazi the bastard I have rammed tanks too death before so why not a plane)
With my experience with those guns on the tech tree version, I'm genuinely amazed at the success you're having with them, swear those things shoot marshmallows. Ofc, not having gun upgrades makes it even funnier but goes to show how the missile makes the difference between a 9.0 and a 10.0.
I'd fly this thing at 11.0 I've been fucking begging for a fantan with missiles and god DAMNIT!!! FINALLY!!! a dream come true. But of course its not available for us PS4 players to buy, so. In return i will not be buying it even if it does ever come out, cuz fuck you too gaijin. 😁
sad how there are so many vehicles in this game, regardless whether they are tanks or planes, where if they move up 0.3 theyre completely useless but if they move down they're insanely OP, and vice versa of vehicles that suck at their current BR but if they move down say goodbye to that entire bracket of BR's
Case in point: F-104A. It's not even that good where it is at 10.0, but put it down to 9.7 and it would fight G.91s, which is an untenable situation for obvious reasons.
I did the "bleeding speed tactic" with my F40 Sabre against 2 Drakens and 1 Viggen yesterday in SIM. Looking those planes fighting for energy under you is one of the joys of my life.
I don't really do requests, I don't play the game that much and when I do I rather play something I enjoy. Feel free to suggest stuff though, I have to fly the P-63C again sometime
I am gonna be honest with you, unless Gaijin changed something with KigCobras on the Red Skies update, I don't think they are good at all. They have performance of rank 2 planes with a bit better gun than the Airacobras, while being rank 3. You should use the Airacobras instead, cause they are at least the appropriate br. However, if you enjoy the plane and are good with it, have fun.
@@petarhrvoic5135 what? The king cobras are literally better in everyway except low speed maneuverability. The only nerf they received were recent for stall control and very low speed acceleration a few patches ago.
While this video helped me see this plane isn't nearly as strong as I thought I still think Gaijin should take the time to rebalance the air spawn mechanics for planes that can carry a2a missiles. But that will probably never ever happen.
It performs better than mig19pt but a little worse than mig19s without the missiles so it’s basically a mig19s with 1k more thrust n more weight + missiles
6:21 Not anymore... GSh-23 got WAY better belts now. They actually do damage. Only issue that remains is of course the shitty velocity, but when you hit they hit hard now.
@@cristobalalvarez5491 of course, muh Vulcan go brrrrrr Russia can't have anything close to it. Murica is the best in world but in wt murica is shizzzzz
@@kingghidorah8106 you are arrogant I'm saying that usually Russians target the gun in game meaning your left defenseless and giving the Abrams and other vehicles a 25mm chaingun or 40mm grenade launcher it would piss of the Russians cause you can break the gun and tracos take for example the leo 2k when you kill the gun breach and gun barrel it can still take your gun away and even kill you if you get stooped on your sides and the capollas have weak armor were you can kill the gunner and commander
the mach .95 constant speed turn is also possible in the Q-5 Early and Q-5I/IA. Which makes them incredibly broken with airspawns at 9.0. also, if you need to squeeze some extra turning performance out of it, it turns a lot faster with the airbrake out and afterburner off, even at speed where it would normally be locking up
It's funny to me that control stiffness is what makes this plane a rate fighter. There needs to be some kind of overhaul of keyboard controls so that you don't have to feather the elevator control to manage your speed in a turn.
This thing was filthy with an airspawn at 10.0 I can't believe they let that happen for so long. Its still undertiered even now after its airspawn was taken.
Got the a5c on the summer sale and i don't regret it, very good sl printer and china grinder (got tier 5 on the chinese tree in like 1 week, never played with it's vehicles), i feel It's a bit unfair to planes that doesn't have flares cuz the gem of this plane is his 2 magics, but after that you just become worse mig-19. They should give a5 10.3 but also change the br of top tier by like +0.3 or something like that.
Hi Defyn! I have a relatively off-topic question, seeing as the video is about a high tier jet and my question is about a rank 3 japanese fighter. I've skipped over buying the Ki-61-I Tei for a long while, as most reviews and discussions I could find regarding this plane were mostly negative, saying it was just an inferior version of the Hei variant, having worse max speed, arguably weaker cannons and a smaller ammunition pool. But finally I've decided to buy it, and I was quite surprised to see that it gets an air spawn in the first match I played with it. I had looked at the plane's stat card long before I researched it, but to my amazement I've never noticed that it's classified as an interceptor. It's the only Ki-61 variant that is classified as such. I wanted to ask whether it always had an air spawn, or if it got the airspawn recently, as the reviews never said anything about it having an airspawn. I think it might actually make it more viable to play than the Hei variant, as it has a lower BR and an airspawn that actually makes up for the fact that it has the flight performance of a 3.3 fighter.
So im not defyn but i can tell you something about the Tonys since i really fell in love with every model of them. The tei was never meant to be an interceptor. The only ki61 disegned for this role had two 30mm cannons, and its not ingame as obvious. Maybe they gave her the airspawn as a "balance" for being worse in every single aspect. Its not a bad plane still, but it has the same engine while being a lot more heavier.
@@100hobbes I know it was a fighter in real life, my question was whether it always had an airspawn or if it got it recently. I never noticed that it was classified as an interceptor in game, because I would have bought it way earlier. As for being heavier, I've not really noticed a difference in flight characteristics compared to other Ki-61s. I actually enjoy it quite a bit since the airspawn really does help it a lot compared to the Hei variant. Interestingly, I've never seen anyone play it in a match besides myself.
@@thelonious2213 i cant really answer the original question, but i am 100% sure it had no airspawn when it was introduced years ago. It actually makes it way more competetive, just like the 262s.
@@100hobbes I agree, it's a pretty neat plane, one that I think deserves more attention than it gets, as I've never seen anyone play this thing. If I had to hazard a guess, it probably got it's airspawn not long ago, as I'm sure somebody would have noticed and it would see some play. Thanks for clearing it up!
I didn't know Algeria has this beauty of a plane. Sucks I won't get this plane for a long time because China is one of the last countries I'll fly. Great video though defyn
I got the impression that this plane was OP reading the forum and reddit but it turns out is not that good after watching this video, people freaked out way to much. Can you upload more mid tiers planes, i love seeing you doing dogfights.
Actually, it's still pretty good. You just haven't faced them yet :). They are almost (if the player flying it is a beginner and makes mistakes) invincible in a downtier, which happens quite often because of all the prem Drakens and A5-C players.
@@samyt681 I don't know how my comment was defensive, but you do you. Anyway, have a nice day (won't type a smiley face now cause I see it bothers you)
I've been trying to grind my way too the Mirage since it came out and my progress is moving at a snail's pace, as every single French fighter below the Mirage sucks ass, I get frustrated then start playing a different nation. So when this came out, and has the Magic missiles, I needed too get a little taste, and broke out my wallet. I don't regret it. The A-5C is a good plane; definitely not great, the guns kinda suck, but the magic's are... magical. It makes up for it's aero compression at high speeds by being quite manueverable at mid range speeds and the higher end of low speeds.
@@Swarmie stock I honestly don't remember but it was easier for me since it was 9.3 or maby even 9.0 at the time Learn to use aim9B because they are good you just have to not fire them at anything, your guns are amazing learn to fire them and get new guns mod early, Don't be the first one in fights, pick your targets that the main fireball have slowed already
@@katgut yea played it a bit yesterday, got to the sparrows. But damn , the radar is absolute dog. Most of the time by the time it locks theyre too close to fire a missile anyways. But yea as a gunfighter its really good
Honestly I recommend running min fuel. Climb to 6k and conserve fuel till I find out who I want to engage. Its engine is still pretty strong with afterburner off.
Yeah this thing is wonderful in the rate fight. When people lemming train after you its a wonderful feeling to spiral them all to 200kph then watch the ensuing barrel shoot.
all GSh-23s got HE rounds to replace the fragmentation and the bullet velocity got upped to 700m/s i think. A lot more enjoyable to use but still almost useless
I don't die in the Draken....... but when I do it's a magik, Launched from a Chinese jet. Watching all those lead pursuits on you are painful. I'm like "Stop cutting the turn!" 🤣
Great plane really for SL grinding and clearing the Chinese tech tree. I have 527 kills to 105 deaths in this thing roughly 280 games 71 percent win rate. Left with the F5A to grind and I’m done with the tree. Personally from my experience the team is good enough that you don’t always have to 1v1 things, but if there’s a need to you can dogfight almost everything at your BR, this thing performs so well below 900 along with its turn rate and energy retention
@@Xiphactinus have you tried the P51Ds? The P47s have better climb rates, turn rates, acceleration, and firepower. The P51s can't even dodge things with higher altitude, and they bleed all their speed in one turn. They are not very good in the scenarios present in game.
Thanks for making a video on this plane, and imo it isn't overpowered. I know NR-23s have been sorta buffed, but a noob in a significantly heavier MiG-19 isn't going to be that smart, and good player's are not that hard to beat either, and if I have trouble I just play China or squad with China at the moment.
how can you go mach 1 at 1 k altitude? i tried it on the testing map and it warned me that the wings might come off. and i think its hotter than the ardennes map you used it on 🤔 snow and shit compared to jungle… was it because of the bomb pylons? i had dropped all of them.
For how much you hate on the gsh. I love the thing. I dont know why but it just works so well for me and i dont understand why everyone else hates it so much. I would even go as far to say as one of my favourites to use. But again i am someone who prides myself on accuracy and dogfighting and i dont struggle as much as most to get those pilot snipes or wing slices
If you can’t win against the J35A… a plane with horrible missiles, bad energy retention, where it’s only good selling point is the maneuverability and the guns… I don’t think it’s what you’re fighting, I think it’s you.
@@fixit9844 the missiles don't really matter, it's the energy retention that makes it easy to beat. I can be in my MiG-17, MiG-19s, and MiG-21s and just go up and take a slight turn to prevent myself from being missiled or shot, and I wait for them to stall, I come back down, and I kill them, so easy, not my fault Rif Roll can't use proper tactics.
@@fixit9844 You can't because the mig 21pfm has the exact same qualities as the J35A, and the ones it is good at is far worse than the J35A. J35A outturns you and outspeeds you. By a lot.
@@fixit9844 the high speed energy retention of the j35 is actually really good. And the mig 21f's er is wayyy worse than the draken. And doesnt turn as well. And doesnt go as fast. Smart j35 players are actually very difficult to deal with, its just that most arent and are easy to kill.
Im kind of debating to myself wether grinding to high tier is actually worth it because I’ve been grinding the Swedes for 3 weeks now and I’m one vehicle away now from rank 6 but compared to my cl13b mk6 At 9.7 in Germany I’m kind of having more fun with j28 and j29 at 7.7
I have ptsd from laizhou bay. SU7 (airspawn) was at my base my F-2 sabre was still rotating off the ground..... to then get TK'd by the sams sites. don't ask why cus i sincerly lost the little amount of trust i have in gaijin.
Naw they hardly ever uptier premiums bc they gotta make that op plane money. Do you still think the magics are better then the aim 9 ps? I feel they are far more resistant to flares and they seem to have more range
Did mach jump clouds get removed? They are removed for me. I’m just tryna make sure I don’t get banned because I played with the files just a bit without any intentions to change anything to abuse anything.
Do you think you could revisit the F-86Ks in the current meta? I’m a little curious if they’re worth trying, because I hardly see anyone use them anymore.
I’m just so angry every time I look at the aircraft in that BR range, when I see aircraft that seem fun and interesting, but in reality will always get uptiered against far superior aircraft and have to pay a ridiculous repair cost with little hope of turning a useful profit. Playing America and Germany at 8.3-9.7 used to be relatively OK a year or more ago, then everything got so… messy, with New Power Creep and other patches.
this plane ruins 9.0-10.0 matches, after im done enjoying the viggen ill probably finish spading my jaguar A and stomp on some a5c abusers until it goes to 10.3 great video tho, helped me understand how this plane performs since i havent flown a mig19 in a year haha
-the MiG19 toys with the F5C, while the F5 rates better the MiG19 has better retention so at the end it will trap the F5C. The F5E however has more thrust and better flight model, it would be a more scary fight for the MiG- The F5C will win the A5, it has better pull and the same retention, and the A5C compresses a lot and it's very heavy.
Compared to the Jaguar A this thing has better acceleration and energy retention, while the Jaguar has the better gun and top speed(1.03 at deck) Yet it is .3 higher...
the draken is the probably the worst purchase decision i ever made. I definitely should have picked this guy up instead now that ive flown it for a while, im growing to like it
sorry m8 i have to disagree with you on the j35a its missles are just there to fire away as fast as you can so then you can jump in with those 30mms which are the real threat of the j35a. its not hard to bait people into turn fights
@well in that case the plane is cancer and you didn't get the joke. The miG19 is devastating, now imagine it with 1 less G of pull but all the benefits of a modern jet and the privilege of an airspawn. I know it's too late to say I was being sarcastic, people with the A5C say exactly "the only good point are the magics" while it has infinite more capabilities than a mig19 because mig19 is a gunfighter and this is a true jet, with rwr, competent missiles and countermeasures. You can go check my post on forum "J35A, A5C and AV8A ruining 8.7-9.7" where player Asghaad literally says the a5c is a horrible jet.
This plane needs to go to 10.3. And then all the other 10.3's and higher need to go up by like .7 br to get them the hell away from 9.7's and below. This thing facing shit like the f100 or sabre's is a joke
I jumped in my premium Hunter a couple days ago to try grind some planes. Got matched up with these makes my jet completely obsolete nothing I could do.
to the wallet warriors planning to buy this the su11 was also predicted to be uptiered and should be uptiered bcuz its absolutely stupid yet its still 7.0 so i would say this thing wont get uptiered in atleast another 6 months
@@redassassian yes 9.3 was too low. 9.7 was +- right and 10.0 was a death sentence ... and since then most of planes that used to be 10.0 moved down to 9.7 and half of the ex-top tiers are now 10.3 ... and Harrier now has to face all aspect R60Ms and pulse doppler radar guided Skyflash/AiM7 E-2s while having no RWR or countermeasures ... you might imagine how well that goes ...
This thing still gets 2 free kills with those magics even at 11, mig19 climb rate with an airspawn you can climb to space AND get behind the enemy most of the time, this thing is the harrier but worse
Problem is that a phantom picks you up on radar from 30km away and instantly starts going for you If he doesn't fuck that up you're not going to do a lot after that
@@DEFYN well sure but thats assuming the phantom player is smart enough to do that and they usually aren't in my experience lol. And if they are, they're on the other team. But such is the way of War Thunder. The only top(ish) tier I've got is the F8U-2 so thats what I face them in, and im trying to learn how to counter them, got any tips?
That J35 clearly just gave up. There were so many things he coulda done. But offensive against those A5C nerds is to drag them down low. Magics are ez to dodge if you catch it at launch. Hes probably just a level 5 facebook ad gamer boi.
OK, one guy Typhoon here, i get a headache watching the video British do something to peoples heads watching a manuver - manuvers... dont watch the video, maybe something to block the screen piece of glass or something
I don't think it is... unless you want to try a bit of some nations in one tech tree... mostly US and USSR, some japanese stuff in Tier 2 and a few british planes... The only chinese plane is the Q-5/A-5, but it is mostly a MiG 19
@@italo195 Not exactly, she has double delta wings, and her performance in dog fights is much better than mig21.In the Direct hit update, gaijin has repaired the weight of the PL5B. PL5B has the strongest AAM power segment in the game。But it also deteriorates the steering performance of the missile：）
You can get a duplicate of other tt vehicles which is useful if you're using free repairs. (useful if you play a lot but don't have millions of SL lying around) It's nice to have a German and Chinese IL28 f.ex. (or any other that works for you)so that you can use them all for fast SL with no risk of losing any, gives you the opportunity to take bigger risks for better rewards. If you don't play much, it's probably not worth it.
“A joke…” “reliant on its missiles…..”?!?!? BRO…. I see you don’t know how to fly it well then because I have absolutely been dominating in this bird! And the missiles are seriously an after thought. I loan him them as soon as I can to get rid of all that drag the four of them produce. The j35a is a true sleeper at 9.7… I have over 250 games in it avg 3 kills per match and over a 70% win rate…. Needless to say I have straight FARMED over 12 million SL IN THREE DAYS… but y’all keep sweating all over this A5c…. And if you try to call my bluff I’m more than willing to post a screen grab of my performance in it. I will admit it takes an experienced pilot for sure… but if you have that… you are an absolute terror every match. 😉
I mean in the context of flying this thing The j35a is an absolute pain to fly vs this The J35 is by no means a bad plane But feel free to tell me you in-game name because you need to flex
The a-5c isn't op and it shouldn't receive an uptier to 10.3. It, in conjunction with the other strike aircraft at jet tier, should not have an airspawn
@@n1hilanth314 "G91 and TAM 2IP are not brain dead grind skip." -Wallet Warrior 69, also circa post match where he had 9 kills [1 TAM, 8 G91] 2 deaths.
Bruh it has aim9p (export aim9j), magics and flares at 10.0. You know what pretty much every other plane has at that br? No flares and aim9e max. It's ridiculously overpowered.
Imagine just flying your plane having fun and somewhere off in the distance you hear:
“and that’s going to be kill number 1”
😨
* watches DEFYN miss his shots * Wow, I'm basically on the same level!
the plane has bad control it's like a heavier MiG19, and we all know how badly you can aim with MiG19 lol
@@kingghidorah8106 migs are good to aim at 700Kmh-900kmh
Had to edit my comment because I was tired when I wrote and i lost all my brain cells when i trying to read it
>writes "crit" in chat
Friendly team: *It's free real estate*
Yea even when the fucking guy is on fire
0:30. Why have I never thought about this. The SAM sites are Roland 1s which have a max elevation of 45 degrees in GRB. Man, I'm so stupid.
thats why if you have someone camping on their airfield you just dive on them and missle their camping asses the sams rarely can get you before you get into cannon range if you are going mach
What's the max range on them?
@@firestarteronyoutube5542 well I think that it's 5km. But if you are going for a airfield strafe I would start around 8km altitude and redline the whole thing at a appropriate angle to pull up after the run. (Or kamakazi the bastard I have rammed tanks too death before so why not a plane)
With my experience with those guns on the tech tree version, I'm genuinely amazed at the success you're having with them, swear those things shoot marshmallows. Ofc, not having gun upgrades makes it even funnier but goes to show how the missile makes the difference between a 9.0 and a 10.0.
Use aphe you either delete them or black out their wing root
I'd fly this thing at 11.0 I've been fucking begging for a fantan with missiles and god DAMNIT!!! FINALLY!!! a dream come true. But of course its not available for us PS4 players to buy, so. In return i will not be buying it even if it does ever come out, cuz fuck you too gaijin. 😁
You mean 8.3 and 10.0
i would´ve preffered if gaijin added the Xi'an JH-7 after the Q-5A.
@@dyerleader did they change its ammo? Don't remember the 23mm having APHE, that's the NR30s on the MiG-19
sad how there are so many vehicles in this game, regardless whether they are tanks or planes, where if they move up 0.3 theyre completely useless but if they move down they're insanely OP, and vice versa of vehicles that suck at their current BR but if they move down say goodbye to that entire bracket of BR's
Case in point: F-104A. It's not even that good where it is at 10.0, but put it down to 9.7 and it would fight G.91s, which is an untenable situation for obvious reasons.
@@cheesuschrist5017 Same with Mig-21 and yak-38 planes at 9.3, totally horrible for 8.3 and 8.7.
one of the many vices of BR compression
The only proper solution is to extend the entire BR bracket at top tier, but Gaijin is going to Gaijin as usual.
Those F-40s are super good at dogfights. It’s too bad they can face so many things that can just use their power advantage.
I did the "bleeding speed tactic" with my F40 Sabre against 2 Drakens and 1 Viggen yesterday in SIM. Looking those planes fighting for energy under you is one of the joys of my life.
If you're taking requests, I'd like to see the P-63C-5 played, just bought it (but tight for SL so haven't crewed it yet), I've heard it's a winner.
I don't really do requests, I don't play the game that much and when I do I rather play something I enjoy.
Feel free to suggest stuff though, I have to fly the P-63C again sometime
@@DEFYN ah, suggestions, that was what I meant. Absolutely understand playing in moderation though
J7W Shinden from the anime Sky Crawlers! Pretty please!
I am gonna be honest with you, unless Gaijin changed something with KigCobras on the Red Skies update, I don't think they are good at all. They have performance of rank 2 planes with a bit better gun than the Airacobras, while being rank 3. You should use the Airacobras instead, cause they are at least the appropriate br. However, if you enjoy the plane and are good with it, have fun.
@@petarhrvoic5135 what? The king cobras are literally better in everyway except low speed maneuverability. The only nerf they received were recent for stall control and very low speed acceleration a few patches ago.
You are underrated for your quality of content. I hope more people find your channel and enjoy it like the rest of us.
While this video helped me see this plane isn't nearly as strong as I thought I still think Gaijin should take the time to rebalance the air spawn mechanics for planes that can carry a2a missiles. But that will probably never ever happen.
It's not overpowered but it's complete bullshit
And yeah they should, but keep dreaming lol
It performs better than mig19pt but a little worse than mig19s without the missiles so it’s basically a mig19s with 1k more thrust n more weight + missiles
Oh well, gaijin is going to remove airspawn for rank 6 and 7
dude its here no airspawn for rank 6-7 thank you🤣
6:21 Not anymore... GSh-23 got WAY better belts now. They actually do damage. Only issue that remains is of course the shitty velocity, but when you hit they hit hard now.
GSh23 have always given good damage in my experience, it's the utterly wrong velocity what sucks.
Even tho they shouldn't
@@cristobalalvarez5491 of course, muh Vulcan go brrrrrr Russia can't have anything close to it. Murica is the best in world but in wt murica is shizzzzz
@@kingghidorah8106 you are arrogant I'm saying that usually Russians target the gun in game meaning your left defenseless and giving the Abrams and other vehicles a 25mm chaingun or 40mm grenade launcher it would piss of the Russians cause you can break the gun and tracos take for example the leo 2k when you kill the gun breach and gun barrel it can still take your gun away and even kill you if you get stooped on your sides and the capollas have weak armor were you can kill the gunner and commander
@@kingghidorah8106 oh and the gh damage is hoorundes
International_Treasure.mp4 is this planes official anthem
I hope they add more PAF jets in chinese tree in future, because most of them were a mixture of chinese + western tech, all in one pkg
The Magic Schoolbus 2: Electric Boogaloo.
Or in other words the chinese Jaguar A without AoA, I guess .. lol
i missed that cartoon show for real
This is such a great plane. I like to hug the deck and attack from underneath like a shark. Really enjoy flying this way at 10.0
the mach .95 constant speed turn is also possible in the Q-5 Early and Q-5I/IA. Which makes them incredibly broken with airspawns at 9.0.
also, if you need to squeeze some extra turning performance out of it, it turns a lot faster with the airbrake out and afterburner off, even at speed where it would normally be locking up
It's funny to me that control stiffness is what makes this plane a rate fighter.
There needs to be some kind of overhaul of keyboard controls so that you don't have to feather the elevator control to manage your speed in a turn.
This thing was filthy with an airspawn at 10.0 I can't believe they let that happen for so long. Its still undertiered even now after its airspawn was taken.
Got the a5c on the summer sale and i don't regret it, very good sl printer and china grinder (got tier 5 on the chinese tree in like 1 week, never played with it's vehicles), i feel It's a bit unfair to planes that doesn't have flares cuz the gem of this plane is his 2 magics, but after that you just become worse mig-19. They should give a5 10.3 but also change the br of top tier by like +0.3 or something like that.
What are your thoughts on the AV-8 with the new 240 flares?
pure american bias.
@@kingghidorah8106 Needs to be moved up to 10.0
@@MausOfTheHouse nah, just remove flares and move it to 10.0 (troll face)
@@kingghidorah8106 you're hired
hilarious, as i always see av-8a dies to the first 2 missile despite the flare factory that it brings
Hi Defyn! I have a relatively off-topic question, seeing as the video is about a high tier jet and my question is about a rank 3 japanese fighter.
I've skipped over buying the Ki-61-I Tei for a long while, as most reviews and discussions I could find regarding this plane were mostly negative, saying it was just an inferior version of the Hei variant, having worse max speed, arguably weaker cannons and a smaller ammunition pool.
But finally I've decided to buy it, and I was quite surprised to see that it gets an air spawn in the first match I played with it. I had looked at the plane's stat card long before I researched it, but to my amazement I've never noticed that it's classified as an interceptor. It's the only Ki-61 variant that is classified as such.
I wanted to ask whether it always had an air spawn, or if it got the airspawn recently, as the reviews never said anything about it having an airspawn.
I think it might actually make it more viable to play than the Hei variant, as it has a lower BR and an airspawn that actually makes up for the fact that it has the flight performance of a 3.3 fighter.
So im not defyn but i can tell you something about the Tonys since i really fell in love with every model of them.
The tei was never meant to be an interceptor. The only ki61 disegned for this role had two 30mm cannons, and its not ingame as obvious. Maybe they gave her the airspawn as a "balance" for being worse in every single aspect. Its not a bad plane still, but it has the same engine while being a lot more heavier.
@@100hobbes I know it was a fighter in real life, my question was whether it always had an airspawn or if it got it recently.
I never noticed that it was classified as an interceptor in game, because I would have bought it way earlier.
As for being heavier, I've not really noticed a difference in flight characteristics compared to other Ki-61s.
I actually enjoy it quite a bit since the airspawn really does help it a lot compared to the Hei variant.
Interestingly, I've never seen anyone play it in a match besides myself.
@@thelonious2213 i cant really answer the original question, but i am 100% sure it had no airspawn when it was introduced years ago.
It actually makes it way more competetive, just like the 262s.
@@100hobbes I agree, it's a pretty neat plane, one that I think deserves more attention than it gets, as I've never seen anyone play this thing. If I had to hazard a guess, it probably got it's airspawn not long ago, as I'm sure somebody would have noticed and it would see some play.
Thanks for clearing it up!
I didn't know Algeria has this beauty of a plane. Sucks I won't get this plane for a long time because China is one of the last countries I'll fly. Great video though defyn
Fire country, first country I completed actually, mid way through Germany
I got the impression that this plane was OP reading the forum and reddit but it turns out is not that good after watching this video, people freaked out way to much.
Can you upload more mid tiers planes, i love seeing you doing dogfights.
Yeah more props and stuff coming soon, just doing the patch stuff right now
Actually, it's still pretty good. You just haven't faced them yet :). They are almost (if the player flying it is a beginner and makes mistakes) invincible in a downtier, which happens quite often because of all the prem Drakens and A5-C players.
@@petarhrvoic5135 so defensive over just a observation of mine..
"You just haven't faced them yet :)" lmao even wrote a smiley face.
Probably because airspawn I presume, and good missiles
@@samyt681 I don't know how my comment was defensive, but you do you. Anyway, have a nice day (won't type a smiley face now cause I see it bothers you)
The GSh-23 actually got buffed and actually does damage now. Velocity is still shit but it generally kills what it hits.
I don't expect stuff to not damage me and the damage wasn't the issue before the buff imo.
velocity is king in most cases
it was the poor velocity of the guns that was the issue with the Gsh23, not the damage
@@DEFYN oh definitely. Just wanted to say they’re not as terrible as they once were.
I've been trying to grind my way too the Mirage since it came out and my progress is moving at a snail's pace, as every single French fighter below the Mirage sucks ass, I get frustrated then start playing a different nation. So when this came out, and has the Magic missiles, I needed too get a little taste, and broke out my wallet. I don't regret it. The A-5C is a good plane; definitely not great, the guns kinda suck, but the magic's are... magical. It makes up for it's aero compression at high speeds by being quite manueverable at mid range speeds and the higher end of low speeds.
Was called "Demon F**" because I killed one of these in an F3H
A highlight
The demon is so agitating to fly
@@vaguevtx5090 It one of my favorite jets when I figured it out
@@katgut im thinking of playing it cause i really want sparrows at 9.7. Got any tips for playing stock? xd
@@Swarmie stock I honestly don't remember but it was easier for me since it was 9.3 or maby even 9.0 at the time
Learn to use aim9B because they are good you just have to not fire them at anything, your guns are amazing learn to fire them and get new guns mod early,
Don't be the first one in fights, pick your targets that the main fireball have slowed already
@@katgut yea played it a bit yesterday, got to the sparrows. But damn , the radar is absolute dog. Most of the time by the time it locks theyre too close to fire a missile anyways. But yea as a gunfighter its really good
I'd love se to see you cover the new BV. A gunship defyn episode would be interesting
RawDogging, the plane
mach 1 in a horizontal turn on full keyboard pretty pog!
Honestly I recommend running min fuel. Climb to 6k and conserve fuel till I find out who I want to engage. Its engine is still pretty strong with afterburner off.
Yeah this thing is wonderful in the rate fight. When people lemming train after you its a wonderful feeling to spiral them all to 200kph then watch the ensuing barrel shoot.
I'm finding the GSh-23 to be a lot better on the Bis after the patch, now it seems like it actually does damage
all GSh-23s got HE rounds to replace the fragmentation and the bullet velocity got upped to 700m/s i think. A lot more enjoyable to use but still almost useless
@@bigdawg2246 compared to the M61 it's bad but at the PFM tier it has actually become really useful. Finally not getting hits anymore
@@l.bakker7563 thats true for the pfm its pretty good now
Been running F4C with AIM7Ds and Gunpod to counter this thing. Honestly, was rather surprised people don't pay attention to RWR til it's too late.
Cause most planes don't have RWR.
@@danaolsongaming I meant people with A-5Cs
I don't die in the Draken....... but when I do it's a magik, Launched from a Chinese jet.
Watching all those lead pursuits on you are painful. I'm like "Stop cutting the turn!" 🤣
Great plane really for SL grinding and clearing the Chinese tech tree. I have 527 kills to 105 deaths in this thing roughly 280 games 71 percent win rate. Left with the F5A to grind and I’m done with the tree. Personally from my experience the team is good enough that you don’t always have to 1v1 things, but if there’s a need to you can dogfight almost everything at your BR, this thing performs so well below 900 along with its turn rate and energy retention
Also this thing climbs so much better than the harriers that most of the time side climbing will allow you to get on the six of any plane below you
If they are giving these things airspawns, why not give the P51 an airspawn so maybe I could get up to altitude before my team is gone.
I feel like the P-47s would benefit more from an airspawn.
@@Xiphactinus have you tried the P51Ds? The P47s have better climb rates, turn rates, acceleration, and firepower. The P51s can't even dodge things with higher altitude, and they bleed all their speed in one turn. They are not very good in the scenarios present in game.
"This is your average game..." said the unicum with a million hours and a 75% win rate...
Hi DEFYN would you still recommend this plane for grinding or is it not useable anymore with the new planes added ?
It's still good as a grinder
Just a bit less effective
a5c is basically the harrier when it came out
Thanks for making a video on this plane, and imo it isn't overpowered. I know NR-23s have been sorta buffed, but a noob in a significantly heavier MiG-19 isn't going to be that smart, and good player's are not that hard to beat either, and if I have trouble I just play China or squad with China at the moment.
you bought one didn't you. This plane is hopelessly overpowered. Magics, flares, and broken flight model.
@@OnEEmONErD Nope, I quit playing shortly after the video was released and I haven't touched it since. Didn't buy that thing. :)
how can you go mach 1 at 1 k altitude? i tried it on the testing map and it warned me that the wings might come off. and i think its hotter than the ardennes map you used it on 🤔 snow and shit compared to jungle…
was it because of the bomb pylons? i had dropped all of them.
I did the horizontal turn trick in a scimitar to a mig pfm. Quite funny
For how much you hate on the gsh. I love the thing. I dont know why but it just works so well for me and i dont understand why everyone else hates it so much. I would even go as far to say as one of my favourites to use. But again i am someone who prides myself on accuracy and dogfighting and i dont struggle as much as most to get those pilot snipes or wing slices
So basically a MiG-19, the best rate fighter in game, with the best missiles in game.... at 10.0? What the fuck.
I know it pisses me off. These premiums are so overpowered
Best rate fighters F5 Mig19, 23 A5c and J7E
The energy generation event without afterburning is insane, you don't need to carry that much fuel
The a5c: the plane that you always see at 10 km
lol
In the face of the J35A spam, the 9.3 MiG-21s are suffering more than ever. Would you be interested in doing a video on the F-13 or the PFM?
They do not suffer lol, you're not playing it right.
If you can’t win against the J35A… a plane with horrible missiles, bad energy retention, where it’s only good selling point is the maneuverability and the guns… I don’t think it’s what you’re fighting, I think it’s you.
@@fixit9844 the missiles don't really matter, it's the energy retention that makes it easy to beat. I can be in my MiG-17, MiG-19s, and MiG-21s and just go up and take a slight turn to prevent myself from being missiled or shot, and I wait for them to stall, I come back down, and I kill them, so easy, not my fault Rif Roll can't use proper tactics.
@@fixit9844 You can't because the mig 21pfm has the exact same qualities as the J35A, and the ones it is good at is far worse than the J35A. J35A outturns you and outspeeds you. By a lot.
@@fixit9844 the high speed energy retention of the j35 is actually really good. And the mig 21f's er is wayyy worse than the draken. And doesnt turn as well. And doesnt go as fast. Smart j35 players are actually very difficult to deal with, its just that most arent and are easy to kill.
Doesn't the A5C have automatic flares/chaff set to the RWR?
gg to Albobo, man fought his ass off
Another Q-5 video? I thought you cleansed your sins of suffering acter the Q-5A video lol
I haven't made a video on that
@@DEFYN i thought you made a Q5A video last year??
Im kind of debating to myself wether grinding to high tier is actually worth it because I’ve been grinding the Swedes for 3 weeks now and I’m one vehicle away now from rank 6 but compared to my cl13b mk6 At 9.7 in Germany I’m kind of having more fun with j28 and j29 at 7.7
How would you compare the flight performance to the mig19pt or J6A in game?
I'm thinking of buying a premium jet for sl grinding, which would be more consistent, this, the F-5C, the harriers or the J-35A?
F5C, then A5C, then av8. Last is J35A
I have ptsd from laizhou bay. SU7 (airspawn) was at my base my F-2 sabre was still rotating off the ground..... to then get TK'd by the sams sites. don't ask why cus i sincerly lost the little amount of trust i have in gaijin.
Naw they hardly ever uptier premiums bc they gotta make that op plane money. Do you still think the magics are better then the aim 9 ps? I feel they are far more resistant to flares and they seem to have more range
Except for the harrier gr ofc wich they uptiered into extinction
Did mach jump clouds get removed? They are removed for me. I’m just tryna make sure I don’t get banned because I played with the files just a bit without any intentions to change anything to abuse anything.
Do you think you could revisit the F-86Ks in the current meta? I’m a little curious if they’re worth trying, because I hardly see anyone use them anymore.
They're absolutely horrible dont bother lmao
@@DEFYN Holy shit that was fast
Well alright then. Guess I never had much interest in playing them anyway lol
I am spawn camping these comments ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
The f-86k has nothing redeeming about it anymore, you're better off flying the Cl-13B
I’m just so angry every time I look at the aircraft in that BR range, when I see aircraft that seem fun and interesting, but in reality will always get uptiered against far superior aircraft and have to pay a ridiculous repair cost with little hope of turning a useful profit.
Playing America and Germany at 8.3-9.7 used to be relatively OK a year or more ago, then everything got so… messy, with New Power Creep and other patches.
this plane ruins 9.0-10.0 matches, after im done enjoying the viggen ill probably finish spading my jaguar A and stomp on some a5c abusers until it goes to 10.3
great video tho, helped me understand how this plane performs since i havent flown a mig19 in a year haha
cancer premium
Defyn what are your thoughts on a5c vs mig 19 matchup
-the MiG19 toys with the F5C, while the F5 rates better the MiG19 has better retention so at the end it will trap the F5C. The F5E however has more thrust and better flight model, it would be a more scary fight for the MiG-
The F5C will win the A5, it has better pull and the same retention, and the A5C compresses a lot and it's very heavy.
@@kingghidorah8106
Read the comment again, he asked about the *A-5C* Fantan not the F-5C.
isn't a5c just a modified MiG 19?
One of gaijins best mistakes
No bigger than the Harriers. The dogshit missile meta hasn't gotten any worse just because of the A-5.
Any tips for this plane? How did it change over time? I'm doing really horrible with it.
it only lost its airspawn. still a fantastic plane wdym
Only thing that changed about the plane is that it doesn't have an airspawn anymore (thank God), but still a fantastic plane, definitely on my top 5
Compared to the Jaguar A this thing has better acceleration and energy retention, while the Jaguar has the better gun and top speed(1.03 at deck) Yet it is .3 higher...
the fact it has aim-9ps and magics at 10.0 doesnt feel good when im in my bus of a harrier :(
all harriers are very good, ur not supposed to dogfight in it anyways
@@westernspy561 i dont dogfight, i'm just simply too slow to outrun, not agile enough to flare and evade, and im a very big target for guns.
Same happend to my f4c sadly magic goes brrrrrt
Harrier pilots are suffering? Oh no!
Anyways
@@HoChiMeme not suffering, I still get around 3-4 kills a game. Just not as much as I use to
the draken is the probably the worst purchase decision i ever made. I definitely should have picked this guy up instead
now that ive flown it for a while, im growing to like it
Could you possible play the Ta-154?
you sound pretty dutch but i like it very much
RatThunder At It's Finest
sorry m8 i have to disagree with you on the j35a its missles are just there to fire away as fast as you can so then you can jump in with those 30mms which are the real threat of the j35a. its not hard to bait people into turn fights
I thought this was going to be like a nosed mig19 but i test flew it, the maximum was 9G at 980 IAS. The only good point of this are the magics.
@well in that case the plane is cancer and you didn't get the joke. The miG19 is devastating, now imagine it with 1 less G of pull but all the benefits of a modern jet and the privilege of an airspawn. I know it's too late to say I was being sarcastic, people with the A5C say exactly "the only good point are the magics" while it has infinite more capabilities than a mig19 because mig19 is a gunfighter and this is a true jet, with rwr, competent missiles and countermeasures. You can go check my post on forum "J35A, A5C and AV8A ruining 8.7-9.7" where player Asghaad literally says the a5c is a horrible jet.
This plane needs to go to 10.3. And then all the other 10.3's and higher need to go up by like .7 br to get them the hell away from 9.7's and below. This thing facing shit like the f100 or sabre's is a joke
Now... how do you deal with the draken in the cl 13 mk6 which for some reason in the same br.
You can't lmao, just spray and hope
Welcome to more BR compression my friend, enjoy fighting Mach 2 supersonics in your sub sonic.
nice
I jumped in my premium Hunter a couple days ago to try grind some planes. Got matched up with these makes my jet completely obsolete nothing I could do.
to the wallet warriors planning to buy this
the su11 was also predicted to be uptiered and should be uptiered bcuz its absolutely stupid yet its still 7.0
so i would say this thing wont get uptiered in atleast another 6 months
Lol that thing is almost like pay to win
uhhuh ... my experience with the Harrier GR1 says they will kill any premium if it proves to be disruptive enough.
@@Asghaad starting br for the harrier was ridiculous and gajin probably needed a boost in profits for the quarter
@@redassassian yes 9.3 was too low. 9.7 was +- right and 10.0 was a death sentence ... and since then most of planes that used to be 10.0 moved down to 9.7 and half of the ex-top tiers are now 10.3 ...
and Harrier now has to face all aspect R60Ms and pulse doppler radar guided Skyflash/AiM7 E-2s while having no RWR or countermeasures ... you might imagine how well that goes ...
@@Asghaad so if don't play gr1 and give up the sraams, you get your 9.7 br and flares for the other 3 harriers
i just want to spade my f100 but i keep getting swarmed by a5s and mig21s
Decent plane, wrong br imo. It was the most painful grind of my US tree.
@@katerinamalkova1126 Its just so painful. I have the F-4C but I want to spade all my fighters and its so damn hard.
@@pandoranbias1622 Just play Assault mode until you get out of stock syndrome.
I hate facing these in my harrier
This thing still gets 2 free kills with those magics even at 11, mig19 climb rate with an airspawn you can climb to space AND get behind the enemy most of the time, this thing is the harrier but worse
Problem is that a phantom picks you up on radar from 30km away and instantly starts going for you
If he doesn't fuck that up you're not going to do a lot after that
@@DEFYN well sure but thats assuming the phantom player is smart enough to do that and they usually aren't in my experience lol. And if they are, they're on the other team. But such is the way of War Thunder.
The only top(ish) tier I've got is the F8U-2 so thats what I face them in, and im trying to learn how to counter them, got any tips?
when has gaijin not raised the BR of a premium after they sell them?
its very new. they didnt milk the cow enough yet
Its fun getting bullied by that thing in my f4c very fun
@@thinkingdokutah3490 f4c is a pain, hopefully you'll get the f4e soon
That J35 clearly just gave up. There were so many things he coulda done. But offensive against those A5C nerds is to drag them down low. Magics are ez to dodge if you catch it at launch. Hes probably just a level 5 facebook ad gamer boi.
Magics ez to dodge😏
can you use that same manoeuvre with other mig 19s?
Can that maneuver do in Q5a ?
Longest fight i have ever seen.
1 Year later still the same BR
Still 10.0 ^.^
No airspawn anymore tho
OK, one guy Typhoon here, i get a headache watching the video British do something to peoples heads watching a manuver - manuvers... dont watch the video, maybe something to block the screen piece of glass or something
Is it worth getting to grind China?
I don't think it is... unless you want to try a bit of some nations in one tech tree... mostly US and USSR, some japanese stuff in Tier 2 and a few british planes...
The only chinese plane is the Q-5/A-5, but it is mostly a MiG 19
@@italo195 you can get J7E
@@笨贼 But that's essentially a MiG 21, isn't it?
@@italo195 Not exactly, she has double delta wings, and her performance in dog fights is much better than mig21.In the Direct hit update, gaijin has repaired the weight of the PL5B. PL5B has the strongest AAM power segment in the game。But it also deteriorates the steering performance of the missile：）
You can get a duplicate of other tt vehicles which is useful if you're using free repairs. (useful if you play a lot but don't have millions of SL lying around)
It's nice to have a German and Chinese IL28 f.ex. (or any other that works for you)so that you can use them all for fast SL with no risk of losing any, gives you the opportunity to take bigger risks for better rewards.
If you don't play much, it's probably not worth it.
Premium: I sleep
Pakistan shouldn't have brought that plane
It's a pog strike jet fighter tho
Why do you do the squad ping thing when alot of times youre the only one left?
My missile lock key is on the same keybind so It pops up a lot
“A joke…” “reliant on its missiles…..”?!?!? BRO…. I see you don’t know how to fly it well then because I have absolutely been dominating in this bird! And the missiles are seriously an after thought. I loan him them as soon as I can to get rid of all that drag the four of them produce. The j35a is a true sleeper at 9.7… I have over 250 games in it avg 3 kills per match and over a 70% win rate…. Needless to say I have straight FARMED over 12 million SL IN THREE DAYS… but y’all keep sweating all over this A5c…. And if you try to call my bluff I’m more than willing to post a screen grab of my performance in it.
I will admit it takes an experienced pilot for sure… but if you have that… you are an absolute terror every match. 😉
Proof RIGHT NOW BIG GUY!!!
I mean in the context of flying this thing
The j35a is an absolute pain to fly vs this
The J35 is by no means a bad plane
But feel free to tell me you in-game name because you need to flex
same, the a5 has the worst gun setup in the game... can't aim them at all and they don't really kill
A-5C can be 10.0 with Matra magic, then F-5C or E could be 10.3 with aim-9X.
Hello!
sup
Hi there !
If your using aim9ps on this thing and not Magic’s somethings wrong
to sacrifice my life for pakistan
This airspawn is a bug?
Most P2W plane imho
The a-5c isn't op and it shouldn't receive an uptier to 10.3. It, in conjunction with the other strike aircraft at jet tier, should not have an airspawn
That sounds like something a wallet warrior would say.
@@n1hilanth314 if you have no idea of what you're taking about, shut up.
@@n1hilanth314 "G91 and TAM 2IP are not brain dead grind skip." -Wallet Warrior 69, also
circa post match where he had 9 kills [1 TAM, 8 G91] 2 deaths.
Magics facing MiG17s and Etendards lets go
Bruh it has aim9p (export aim9j), magics and flares at 10.0. You know what pretty much every other plane has at that br? No flares and aim9e max. It's ridiculously overpowered.
It's a mig-19 with a nosecone?