I wrote out a big list of my pros and cons of Wellbutrin but looks like it got blocked for some reason. To sum it up, great for quitting smoking, depression, fatigue, helped me with mood and anxiety. Had a few side effects for the first week or so but after that, pretty minimal side effects. I do still have HUGE pupils, which is not ideal. It's still worth it for me though. For ADHD, I would give it a 6/10. Definitely better than nothing. *This is my experience, not medical advice.*
I felt it! Yesterday was my first day! I took first pill and go to the bathroom. And after one hour I started to have ideas, and yesterday i could focus and had motivation. Started to looking for a job, I did my CV and tomorrow im going to my first job interwiev after many, mamy years of doing nothing… It is a miracle. So. Yesterday and today (day first and day second) are totally different. I though that im crazy, cause everyone tells me that I have to wait 2 weeks… but I felt it after 40 minutes! Wow wow wow! So I’m watching this film after reaserch if it is possible. It is! ❤❤❤
So many individual's experience matches yours, and basic neuroscience tells the same story - that bupropion should work very quickly for ADHD. Hopefully more clinicians and ADHD experts will listen to that message.
i have been on atomoxetine for 1.5 years and followed by methylphenidate with it. It did help as I didn't have anything to compare to. Now I have switched to bupropion 150 xl (self medicating as consulting a psychiatrist isn't accessible for now. I have done fair bit of research and thank you so much for this video). this is so much better then anything with almost no side effects. I felt bad that it wasn't prescribed two years back. I doubt of having Dysthymia or Depersonalization (most likely this) with my primarily inattentive ADHD. and this has been a blessing of sorts. Atomoxeting helped me with Inattention but was no drive and methylphenidate had worse wearing off effect. this is so good and I'm going to be adding methylphenidate 10mg sr with it. PS: Im trying to online consultation with my psychiatrist.
I quit smoking completely. It improved my appetite by eighty percent. I am happy, comfortable and joyful, the only surprising thing is that it made me fearless and enterprising. I used to not take risks, I am not afraid anymore. Also, I do not trade at all anymore, even though I was someone who spent long periods of time in the stock market.
I am a strong-willed person. I have stayed away from the mistakes of my youth for 20 years. But it turns out that the reason I am unhappy and unhappy is because of my broken brain. It turns out that the medicine I took to quit smoking was the only potion of happiness I needed.
I’m on the 150mg extended relief and I’m about 7 days in and I’m starting to feel….. something but definitely better? I think it takes a few weeks. From what I can tell I’m on lower dose. Hope that helps. No noticeable side effects so far far
Thank-you for what is plainly the best buproprion for ADHD video on the net. For those in countries only able to source the SR (150) formulation, with presumably the 300 XL most favoured in treating ADHD, how would you recommend spacing 2x150 SR doses, to avoid insomnia and maxmise results?
Whatever works for the individual is best. Many take two 150 SR right when they awaken. Others take one when they awaken and a second 2-3 hours later. The SR has a big advantage over the XL in that if you need to reduce dosage slightly you can break the pill in half (or other amounts) - the XL really is indivisible.
@@DrJohnKruse Yes, I have studied your output and thus heard about its osmotic delivery system. How very kind and thoughtful of you to take the time to reply, Dr Kruse. As a very late arrival at what has been cursing much of my life, in terms of self-discovery, your videos (alongside the literature of Dr Barkley) have been very useful. Thank-you for making them.
I really appreciate this. Thank you. My practitioner just prescribed this for SAD + ADHD. I am already taking LDN for chronic pain. I have a call in to the pharmacy to make sure I don’t have any contraindications.
My PCP has prescibed me wellbutrin with the adipex that i have been taking by itself for 6 months to aid in my weightloss and food noise- do you have any opinions regarding this combo?
If you're tolerating it and it's working for weight loss, good. Phentermine/adipex is a somewhat less potent stimulant than amphetamine. Combining it with wellbutrin increases somewhat the risk for agitation, insomnia, tremor, and anxiety, but these are dose dependent effects, so if you are comfortable at the current dosages it is likely to continue to be okay.
I used a number of different products during adolescence. I have not used anything other than tobacco for 20 years. It turns out that I fell in love with the products of adolescence, and this product turned me into a completely normal, wonderful person. It satisfied deprivation and hunger.
Nicotine can effectively treat some ADHD symptoms: th-cam.com/video/QP2qv-w_two/w-d-xo.html But smoking itself has so many detrimental health consequences.
Wellbutrin has some good effects on my baseline mood but did not really help with my ADHD symptoms. Also, it caused major hair loss and terrible visual problems (dry, gravelly eyes, and blurred vision) for me, so I was forced to lower my dose and then eventually stop it. I can finally wear contacts again. Hallelujah! Concerta works wonders, but the horrible dry mouth (so dry that my tongue cracked) and dry eyes were unbearable. I will try Concerta on its own to see what happens (maybe just on certain days, too). Maybe the combination of the two drugs made Concerta worse for me. I understand that I am an individual who reacts to a drug in a unique way, so I may need to experiment more before finding a better pharmaceutical option in addition to counseling. I saw a metastudy on the association between antidepressants and visual problems. Is it because of the seratonin increase? Do most stimulant meds have the same issue? Which drugs affect vision the least?
I started 100mg SR today and genuinely think I noticed a difference in my ADHD symptoms already. My energy levels have been high all day; similar to having had a weak cup of coffee and I was able to stay on task at work more than usual.
It has given me severe insomnia. I have been on it for 3 months now and I can’t take it anymore. So bad that I wanna quit it. Although on the other hand, it has helped with executive function, concentration and brain fog but at what cost? Not sleeping? I can’t. And I take it in the morning and I am taking the XL. The psychiatrist I am seeing upped my dose to 300mg from 150mg one month ago and the insomnia just got worse, coupled with agitation. It’s a nightmare. I also noticed a difference on the first day like you mentioned in the video. It was like my mind became clear.
Just to check that you're taking it all first thing in the morning. For depression Wellbutrin, even the SR form, was approved as a multi-times a day dose, even though it seems to work at least as well all in the morning. I've also seen some people just adjust the timing by an hour or so (from breakfast time to right when they wake up) and that seemed to result in big improvement in sleep at the end of the day. Some people do adjust over time, and insomnia diminishes, but it seems that you have already been very patient with this.
Im sure you may have already tried everything but just wanted to chime in anyway. This may sound abit nuts but i heard someone say to combat this , they take it right before sleeping. And my own solution was to wake up in the middle of sleeping, take it and sleep again. so youre basically taking it earlier than youre evern awake. But it all depends how your insomnia works i think
I went on Avulety. The SSRI activity of Avulety made it just as harmful to me as regular SSRIs. But it was interesting, I had a lot of blackout experiences, mostly when drinking (so I stopped drinking), but eventually without drinking, which is when I stopped. I bring this up because it points to the importance of paying attention to all these drug interactions! Bupropion alone continues to be the most important medication in my life.
Thanks for sharing your experience. I do have a video on Auvelity here: th-cam.com/video/ZhOeBW8lXZ4/w-d-xo.html To be a little picky about terminology, SSRI refers to "serotonin specific reuptake inhibition". While the dextromethorphan component of Auvelity has some ability to inhibit serotonin reuptake, it also has many additional neurotransmitter and transporter interactions, so pharmacologists would not label it an SSRI.
@@DrJohnKruse I’ll take a look, thank you! I only now realize that my comment was a little off topic, my apologies. I’ll say this about my experience with bupropion and ADHD - bupropion is capable of shutting off the “STOP DOING THE THING” signal that is normally always ringing in my head. I can suddenly exercise for longer than I could before, clean a little longer than before, read a few more paragraphs uninterrupted than before. It’s not as good at stimulants, but it helps. And you’re right about it working instantly. In fact, bupropion always works best for me the first day I go on it after an absence. My first day on it ever I ran 4 miles having not run in years 😂
If one is taking buproprion to target ADHD, and no depression is in the picture, then within 2-3 days one would have a very good idea of how well that particular dose is working for ADHD, and it would make sense to increase the dose if benefits and side effects have been minimal.
I've read a bunch of experience threads on reddit and it seems like no one likes it for ADHD. That makes me a bit hesitant to try it. Isn't the cause of ED the changed muscle tone (sympathetic/parasympathetic...) by the increase in norepinephrine signaling? That should be the case with all dopamine/norepinephrine drugs, right? Why not Wellbutrin?
Reddit (or other online sharing platforms) can let you know part of the range of responses (assuming people are being candid) but don't give much information on how likely any of those responses are. And people who have bad or unusual responses are almost always highly over-represented in such forums. The older version of this video had major problems with the sound (a smoke detector went off mid-video, and I kept trying to talk through it), and TH-cam doesn't let you preserve the comments when you revise/edit a video. So you missed comments from dozens and dozens of people who (mostly, but not entirely) had good responses to their ADHD symptoms from Wellbutrin. Maybe as this stays up longer, more will accumulate. But this too, is anecdotal information. It doesn't tell you the likelihood overall of getting a good, non-, or bad response to the medication, which we have to rely on scientific methods to uncover And even if we know what the overall odds are, that doesn't (yet) tell us how any particular individual is going to respond. The coordination of lots of neurotransmitter systems (particularly serotonin, along with NE and DA) is important for sexual response, and different parts of the sexual response cycle are vulnerable to different agents. None of the experts in the field pretend they know all of the factors needed for "normal" sexual functioning. Bupropion has more than a twenty year track history at helping alleviate SSRI-induced sexual effects. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11894796/
It causes ringing in the ears from time to time. It causes sweating even a little. But the most serious side effect for me was an involuntary, long-term erection during the night while sleeping. My doctor told me to stop using it for a week and it has improved now. It was painful and lasted for hours. I used it to quit smoking. This medicine has become my everything. I plan to use it until I die. I'm on my 3rd month. 150 mg XL
@@keremercan6079 while there are general correlations between body size and dosage, I always recommended focusing on what you are seeing in terms of benefits and side effects rather than becoming preoccupied with how many milligrams. What is true for stimulants is also true for Wellbutrin in this regard. th-cam.com/video/27Qj30Fxaco/w-d-xo.html If I was working with someone with the side effects you have reported, I would at least wait for a few weeks after the side effects subside (if they subside) before trying a higher dose.
My Concerta stopped working. It just puts me to sleep now....is it too low a dose?!?! After six good months I'm back to shlogging through work unmedicated because at least i can stay up all night again.
They all can..like borderline..this is why we're fked. I help my adhd too much..my bpd can get REALLY bad on the rebound..so i have to stay away from amphetamines. Or I'll end up killing someone lol.
Thanks for the insightful video. What about taking it sporadically? A day here or there? I took it some time ago and had an amazing day or two where I realized this must be what it’s like for people without ADHD. I could actually direct myself and do what I wanted to do. It was great but that effect didn’t last, even when increasing the dosage from 100mg to 200 mg per day. I’ve been off it for a while now. But what if I just took it once in a while to try to get that helpful effect? Thanks.
My understanding is that they can both elevate heart rate, and if rhodiola does have potent enough MAOI activity, it could prolong the effects of dopamine and norepinephrine that are boosted by wellbutrin.
It also made me angry too, but that’s because you’re going too fast for your dosage for me when the dosage would go up irritation, anger and agitation were expected from me and it would take about a week before that anger would start to subside, which is usually when the medication starts to somewhat hitbut yeah, it definitely has the effect of making people angry but slow dosage upping is the only way to avoid that
I've delta with extreme anger and most must be delt with lovely care. Many people are full of unexpressed emotions and deep hurt feelings and upsets that are hidden in the Mind and some supplements and medications can cause Mania. Mania is like a wild roller-coaster some use it to create for creativity and some use it for anger and being critical and everything. Your brain will be in turbo mode either for good or for evil. You decide 😊
Does it seem reasonable to use this as sort of a middle ground between stimulants and being med-free? I’m currently trying to stop taking stimulants just for long term health concerns, but I think psychological I’ve gotten so use to doing work on them, that I feel like I need them to be fully confident in my work. Currently think about using Wellbutrin as a sort of middle ground for 6 months to a year. Something which will train me to work with less and less stimulation per se and kick that psychological dependence
@@DrJohnKruse excellent these videos in concert with the recommendations from my doctor have been invaluable. It’s nice to know(side effects willing) I’ll have another tool in my tool box which feels safer than amphetamine.
what i find particularly interesting about this drug is the fact that its not considered a stimulant. its also a Cathinone! cathinones, aka BATH SALTS, are a family of black market stimulant drugs that were developed to circumvent the existing legislation against substituted-amphetamines.
Our definitions of what it means to be a stimulant are quite variable and inconsistent. In the broadest sense of the world, most people would agree that it has "sympathomimetic" activity - it activates the sympathetic nervous system. But I'm not even sure if we should consider methylphenidate a stimulant: th-cam.com/video/A2y1foYpndc/w-d-xo.html
@@DrJohnKruse its quite a subjective definition. especially for an objective science. *Catecholamine **_releasing_** agents* ought to be the only drugs with the classification of stimulants based on their effect with human neurons. not how much it binds to the receptors _in vitro_
I wrote out a big list of my pros and cons of Wellbutrin but looks like it got blocked for some reason. To sum it up, great for quitting smoking, depression, fatigue, helped me with mood and anxiety. Had a few side effects for the first week or so but after that, pretty minimal side effects. I do still have HUGE pupils, which is not ideal. It's still worth it for me though. For ADHD, I would give it a 6/10. Definitely better than nothing. *This is my experience, not medical advice.*
Thanks for sharing your response.
I felt it! Yesterday was my first day!
I took first pill and go to the bathroom. And after one hour I started to have ideas, and yesterday i could focus and had motivation. Started to looking for a job, I did my CV and tomorrow im going to my first job interwiev after many, mamy years of doing nothing…
It is a miracle.
So. Yesterday and today (day first and day second) are totally different.
I though that im crazy, cause everyone tells me that I have to wait 2 weeks… but I felt it after 40 minutes!
Wow wow wow!
So I’m watching this film after reaserch if it is possible.
It is!
❤❤❤
So many individual's experience matches yours, and basic neuroscience tells the same story - that bupropion should work very quickly for ADHD. Hopefully more clinicians and ADHD experts will listen to that message.
i have been on atomoxetine for 1.5 years and followed by methylphenidate with it. It did help as I didn't have anything to compare to. Now I have switched to bupropion 150 xl (self medicating as consulting a psychiatrist isn't accessible for now. I have done fair bit of research and thank you so much for this video). this is so much better then anything with almost no side effects. I felt bad that it wasn't prescribed two years back. I doubt of having Dysthymia or Depersonalization (most likely this) with my primarily inattentive ADHD. and this has been a blessing of sorts. Atomoxeting helped me with Inattention but was no drive and methylphenidate had worse wearing off effect. this is so good and I'm going to be adding methylphenidate 10mg sr with it.
PS: Im trying to online consultation with my psychiatrist.
I quit smoking completely. It improved my appetite by eighty percent. I am happy, comfortable and joyful, the only surprising thing is that it made me fearless and enterprising. I used to not take risks, I am not afraid anymore. Also, I do not trade at all anymore, even though I was someone who spent long periods of time in the stock market.
I am a strong-willed person. I have stayed away from the mistakes of my youth for 20 years. But it turns out that the reason I am unhappy and unhappy is because of my broken brain. It turns out that the medicine I took to quit smoking was the only potion of happiness I needed.
I feel you❤
I can confirm, wellbutrin is helping
Interesting. I have it in my drawer and i just stopped using it because it didn't seem to do... anything. Was a little harder to pee for some reason.
How long did it take?
I’m on the 150mg extended relief and I’m about 7 days in and I’m starting to feel….. something but definitely better? I think it takes a few weeks. From what I can tell I’m on lower dose. Hope that helps. No noticeable side effects so far far
I noticed it on the very first day. It helps me so much.
Thank-you for what is plainly the best buproprion for ADHD video on the net. For those in countries only able to source the SR (150) formulation, with presumably the 300 XL most favoured in treating ADHD, how would you recommend spacing 2x150 SR doses, to avoid insomnia and maxmise results?
Whatever works for the individual is best. Many take two 150 SR right when they awaken. Others take one when they awaken and a second 2-3 hours later. The SR has a big advantage over the XL in that if you need to reduce dosage slightly you can break the pill in half (or other amounts) - the XL really is indivisible.
@@DrJohnKruse Yes, I have studied your output and thus heard about its osmotic delivery system. How very kind and thoughtful of you to take the time to reply, Dr Kruse. As a very late arrival at what has been cursing much of my life, in terms of self-discovery, your videos (alongside the literature of Dr Barkley) have been very useful. Thank-you for making them.
@@michaeljames4904 you're welcome!
I really appreciate this. Thank you. My practitioner just prescribed this for SAD + ADHD. I am already taking LDN for chronic pain. I have a call in to the pharmacy to make sure I don’t have any contraindications.
I hope that it helps.
@ 💜
My PCP has prescibed me wellbutrin with the adipex that i have been taking by itself for 6 months to aid in my weightloss and food noise- do you have any opinions regarding this combo?
If you're tolerating it and it's working for weight loss, good. Phentermine/adipex is a somewhat less potent stimulant than amphetamine. Combining it with wellbutrin increases somewhat the risk for agitation, insomnia, tremor, and anxiety, but these are dose dependent effects, so if you are comfortable at the current dosages it is likely to continue to be okay.
I used a number of different products during adolescence. I have not used anything other than tobacco for 20 years. It turns out that I fell in love with the products of adolescence, and this product turned me into a completely normal, wonderful person. It satisfied deprivation and hunger.
Nicotine can effectively treat some ADHD symptoms: th-cam.com/video/QP2qv-w_two/w-d-xo.html But smoking itself has so many detrimental health consequences.
Wellbutrin has some good effects on my baseline mood but did not really help with my ADHD symptoms. Also, it caused major hair loss and terrible visual problems (dry, gravelly eyes, and blurred vision) for me, so I was forced to lower my dose and then eventually stop it. I can finally wear contacts again. Hallelujah! Concerta works wonders, but the horrible dry mouth (so dry that my tongue cracked) and dry eyes were unbearable. I will try Concerta on its own to see what happens (maybe just on certain days, too). Maybe the combination of the two drugs made Concerta worse for me. I understand that I am an individual who reacts to a drug in a unique way, so I may need to experiment more before finding a better pharmaceutical option in addition to counseling. I saw a metastudy on the association between antidepressants and visual problems. Is it because of the seratonin increase? Do most stimulant meds have the same issue? Which drugs affect vision the least?
I started 100mg SR today and genuinely think I noticed a difference in my ADHD symptoms already. My energy levels have been high all day; similar to having had a weak cup of coffee and I was able to stay on task at work more than usual.
That doesn't surprise me at all. I hope that it continues to work for you and that you find an optimal dose.
It has given me severe insomnia. I have been on it for 3 months now and I can’t take it anymore. So bad that I wanna quit it. Although on the other hand, it has helped with executive function, concentration and brain fog but at what cost? Not sleeping? I can’t. And I take it in the morning and I am taking the XL. The psychiatrist I am seeing upped my dose to 300mg from 150mg one month ago and the insomnia just got worse, coupled with agitation. It’s a nightmare. I also noticed a difference on the first day like you mentioned in the video. It was like my mind became clear.
Just to check that you're taking it all first thing in the morning. For depression Wellbutrin, even the SR form, was approved as a multi-times a day dose, even though it seems to work at least as well all in the morning. I've also seen some people just adjust the timing by an hour or so (from breakfast time to right when they wake up) and that seemed to result in big improvement in sleep at the end of the day. Some people do adjust over time, and insomnia diminishes, but it seems that you have already been very patient with this.
Im sure you may have already tried everything but just wanted to chime in anyway.
This may sound abit nuts but i heard someone say to combat this , they take it right before sleeping.
And my own solution was to wake up in the middle of sleeping, take it and sleep again. so youre basically taking it earlier than youre evern awake. But it all depends how your insomnia works i think
I went on Avulety. The SSRI activity of Avulety made it just as harmful to me as regular SSRIs. But it was interesting, I had a lot of blackout experiences, mostly when drinking (so I stopped drinking), but eventually without drinking, which is when I stopped. I bring this up because it points to the importance of paying attention to all these drug interactions! Bupropion alone continues to be the most important medication in my life.
Thanks for sharing your experience. I do have a video on Auvelity here: th-cam.com/video/ZhOeBW8lXZ4/w-d-xo.html
To be a little picky about terminology, SSRI refers to "serotonin specific reuptake inhibition". While the dextromethorphan component of Auvelity has some ability to inhibit serotonin reuptake, it also has many additional neurotransmitter and transporter interactions, so pharmacologists would not label it an SSRI.
@@DrJohnKruse I’ll take a look, thank you! I only now realize that my comment was a little off topic, my apologies. I’ll say this about my experience with bupropion and ADHD - bupropion is capable of shutting off the “STOP DOING THE THING” signal that is normally always ringing in my head. I can suddenly exercise for longer than I could before, clean a little longer than before, read a few more paragraphs uninterrupted than before. It’s not as good at stimulants, but it helps. And you’re right about it working instantly. In fact, bupropion always works best for me the first day I go on it after an absence. My first day on it ever I ran 4 miles having not run in years 😂
Thank you so much Sir!
"An *Aminoketone* not a mean old ketone" 1:07 😂
Hello! Thanks for the video!! But after how many days/weeks would it be recommended to increase the dose if we don’t see any benefits? Thanks
If one is taking buproprion to target ADHD, and no depression is in the picture, then within 2-3 days one would have a very good idea of how well that particular dose is working for ADHD, and it would make sense to increase the dose if benefits and side effects have been minimal.
Awesome video
I've read a bunch of experience threads on reddit and it seems like no one likes it for ADHD. That makes me a bit hesitant to try it. Isn't the cause of ED the changed muscle tone (sympathetic/parasympathetic...) by the increase in norepinephrine signaling? That should be the case with all dopamine/norepinephrine drugs, right? Why not Wellbutrin?
Reddit (or other online sharing platforms) can let you know part of the range of responses (assuming people are being candid) but don't give much information on how likely any of those responses are. And people who have bad or unusual responses are almost always highly over-represented in such forums.
The older version of this video had major problems with the sound (a smoke detector went off mid-video, and I kept trying to talk through it), and TH-cam doesn't let you preserve the comments when you revise/edit a video. So you missed comments from dozens and dozens of people who (mostly, but not entirely) had good responses to their ADHD symptoms from Wellbutrin. Maybe as this stays up longer, more will accumulate. But this too, is anecdotal information. It doesn't tell you the likelihood overall of getting a good, non-, or bad response to the medication, which we have to rely on scientific methods to uncover And even if we know what the overall odds are, that doesn't (yet) tell us how any particular individual is going to respond.
The coordination of lots of neurotransmitter systems (particularly serotonin, along with NE and DA) is important for sexual response, and different parts of the sexual response cycle are vulnerable to different agents. None of the experts in the field pretend they know all of the factors needed for "normal" sexual functioning. Bupropion has more than a twenty year track history at helping alleviate SSRI-induced sexual effects. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11894796/
It causes ringing in the ears from time to time. It causes sweating even a little. But the most serious side effect for me was an involuntary, long-term erection during the night while sleeping. My doctor told me to stop using it for a week and it has improved now. It was painful and lasted for hours. I used it to quit smoking. This medicine has become my everything. I plan to use it until I die. I'm on my 3rd month. 150 mg XL
I hope that it continues working without those side effects.
@ thank you sure, i am 1.85 106kg i use 150 mg. am i should be take 300mg as for you ? Becouse i have kg
@@keremercan6079 while there are general correlations between body size and dosage, I always recommended focusing on what you are seeing in terms of benefits and side effects rather than becoming preoccupied with how many milligrams. What is true for stimulants is also true for Wellbutrin in this regard. th-cam.com/video/27Qj30Fxaco/w-d-xo.html
If I was working with someone with the side effects you have reported, I would at least wait for a few weeks after the side effects subside (if they subside) before trying a higher dose.
I had brain fog with wellbutrin. I went off of it and use adderoll by itself now
Are the metabolites active for dopamine as well as norepinephrine?
Wellbutrin for certain works. Was better than strattera but not as good as a controlled option
My Concerta stopped working. It just puts me to sleep now....is it too low a dose?!?! After six good months I'm back to shlogging through work unmedicated because at least i can stay up all night again.
Thank you!
Can the Wellbutrin exacerbate co- occuring bipolar disorder
They all can..like borderline..this is why we're fked. I help my adhd too much..my bpd can get REALLY bad on the rebound..so i have to stay away from amphetamines. Or I'll end up killing someone lol.
Thanks for the insightful video. What about taking it sporadically? A day here or there? I took it some time ago and had an amazing day or two where I realized this must be what it’s like for people without ADHD. I could actually direct myself and do what I wanted to do. It was great but that effect didn’t last, even when increasing the dosage from 100mg to 200 mg per day. I’ve been off it for a while now. But what if I just took it once in a while to try to get that helpful effect? Thanks.
I've worked with some individuals who took it sporadically and were happy with the long term benefits of dosing tht way.
@@DrJohnKruse Thank you
Does Wellbutrin have a drug interaction with Rhodiola?
My understanding is that they can both elevate heart rate, and if rhodiola does have potent enough MAOI activity, it could prolong the effects of dopamine and norepinephrine that are boosted by wellbutrin.
I gona start tomorrow with the medicine 💊
I used it to try quick smoking - it made me have crazy dreams and I got really really angry- many people have 'offed' themselves using it.
It also made me angry too, but that’s because you’re going too fast for your dosage for me when the dosage would go up irritation, anger and agitation were expected from me and it would take about a week before that anger would start to subside, which is usually when the medication starts to somewhat hitbut yeah, it definitely has the effect of making people angry but slow dosage upping is the only way to avoid that
I think you meant to say 'unalived' lol....but I'm glad you didn't!!!
yeah. it's not an adhd med, either.
It's re-purposed.
There's money to be made, you see...
I've delta with extreme anger and most must be delt with lovely care.
Many people are full of unexpressed emotions and deep hurt feelings and upsets that are hidden in the Mind and some supplements and medications can cause Mania.
Mania is like a wild roller-coaster some use it to create for creativity and some use it for anger and being critical and everything.
Your brain will be in turbo mode either for good or for evil.
You decide 😊
Does it seem reasonable to use this as sort of a middle ground between stimulants and being med-free? I’m currently trying to stop taking stimulants just for long term health concerns, but I think psychological I’ve gotten so use to doing work on them, that I feel like I need them to be fully confident in my work. Currently think about using Wellbutrin as a sort of middle ground for 6 months to a year. Something which will train me to work with less and less stimulation per se and kick that psychological dependence
I've seen people use bupropion successfully that way.
@@DrJohnKruse excellent these videos in concert with the recommendations from my doctor have been invaluable. It’s nice to know(side effects willing) I’ll have another tool in my tool box which feels safer than amphetamine.
Was on it for 7 days before I broke out in hives 😅
I got hives too, lost a bunch of weight and am trying it again 🤞
what i find particularly interesting about this drug is the fact that its not considered a stimulant. its also a Cathinone! cathinones, aka BATH SALTS, are a family of black market stimulant drugs that were developed to circumvent the existing legislation against substituted-amphetamines.
Our definitions of what it means to be a stimulant are quite variable and inconsistent. In the broadest sense of the world, most people would agree that it has "sympathomimetic" activity - it activates the sympathetic nervous system. But I'm not even sure if we should consider methylphenidate a stimulant: th-cam.com/video/A2y1foYpndc/w-d-xo.html
@@DrJohnKruse its quite a subjective definition. especially for an objective science. *Catecholamine **_releasing_** agents* ought to be the only drugs with the classification of stimulants based on their effect with human neurons. not how much it binds to the receptors _in vitro_
It was one of the best medicines i was able to take it for many years, very mild drug overall, compared to other psychiatric medicine.
Did not help and I just stayed on it out of desperation . Same with Straterra despite insane constipation. Methylphenidate and adderall did nothing .
Sedated me and caused me into mutism - I couldn’t hold a conversation
It doesn't work with my ADHD...I also feel brain fogy. Good Antidepressant, tho.
Wellbutrin did not help my add. Too many side effects. Bad insomnia.
Wellbutrin weak because doctors dose to low. 450mg or go home!
Thank you!
Sedated me and caused me into mutism - I couldn’t hold a conversation
:( I’m sorry. What else have you tried?