Customers buying habits tell car manufacturers they want lot of tech, flashly exterior/interior and higher MPG. The issue is customers dont want to pay for what they want. You clearly don't realize Toyota only makes an average of $1300 profit per vehicle. Modern-day vehicles are extremely expensive to design and manufacture.
Big Toyota fan over twenty years with a least four cars but when I went to buy a new SUV a couple of years ago the conversation with the sales person began with him asking me how much over MSRP can you spend? Lost me forever just like Ford did when they had to replace my Taurus transmission three times! Wish you the best!
You forgot to mention that if you really want a Toyota truck you should just lease one. Then if it breaks, it's their problem, and they owe you a rental or you insist in getting out of the lease if they don't supply you with a rental. That's the secret with a lease, if its in the shop for more than a day, they owe you a rental. If it breaks, no big deal it's there truck. An example is Ford had a truck in for major repairs, told the "lease" customer that there was no complementary rentals available, customer called Ford Canada and Ford called the dealer to set the rules straight, the dealer called the customer saying that Enterprise will be picking him up and hooking him up with a rental. On a lease they owe you wheels. When you buy they just owe you good will on warrantee. (Lemon law's apply of course.)
I agree it is a level of peace of mind, but you are paying through the nose for that warm feeling. Here in the UK over 90% of all car sales are lease of some kind or another. Lease is a posh word for rent.
Back around late 2019 or early 2020 i heard about this new V6. I Told my wife, i want nothing to do with turbos. I know how much greif they cause BMW. My brother in law told me that deals are great due to the pandemic in 2020. I went to Brantford Toyota and placed my order for a TUNDRA TRD OR. I am coming up to 5 years now and 70 000 kms and have had 3 very minor issues. The 5.7 v8 is a fantastic engine. The power it makes is crazy. Last time i checked, my 5 yo Tundra has depreciated maybe 10% since new. BTW, TKs Garage reported that Yota is bringing back the v8... that would be a very astute move.
All auto makers are just making over priced crap which is sad. Pay the price for the new vehicle just to have it armed with recalls and defects. You'd be lucky if a new $90k truck or car lasts a year now.
I had a Toyota Tundra of the 2009 flavor. Bought it used with about 35K miles. It had 5.7 i Force V8. Drove that thing till it showed 182K miles and the only thing that went wrong was one ignition coil. The service manager told me that I was "the lucky one" because that happens once for about 50 000 Toyotas. Diagnostics, parts and labor was about $270.00. Not bad for 9 years of ownership.
For the most part yes, but I dis-agree with him on Toyota. Their reliability has not gone down as much as it sounds. 2 models have had some issues. The Tundra and Tacoma. The issues have been identified and corrected on both. Toyota does not get a pass for this happening, but it does not mean their quality and reliability is gone. The majority of their models have been proven reliable. In the past Toyota has had dips like this and always corrected the issues. I have zero concern that they are on their way out I call Bull Shit on that. If I were buying a vehicle right now brand new it would 100% be a Toyota. Our current 2020 Camry SE has not been in the shop (knock on wood) for anything except service and it is now 5 years old. Plenty of videos with 2020 Camries reaching 300k miles already.
"People are losing faith in Toyota..." Whenever someone posts something like this, I always ask the same thing the Car Care Nut asks: "How about the RAV4? Camry? Corolla? Sienna? Highlander? All these are no good? Not important? Why do you still have to wait months to get a Sienna and are lining up to buy one? I don't know, I guess only the Tundra's important." Granted, the new engines and the additional electronics and features add more points of failure, and the 2025 Camry going full hybrid will cause future concerns. But let's not pretend it's ALL of Toyota failing here.
Yes and the Sky is Falling because Toyota had a couple of models have a few issues. If their entire line up were having issues well then yes I might start to wonder of they are changing, but they are not and the majority of them are as reliable as your going to get right now. If I had the money and could afford a new Tundra I would have zero issues buying one!
I honestly lost faith in all the models I wanted to buy. Tundra, Sequoia, lx600, gx550. I owned 2 of the 4. I am trying a turbo 4 Land Cruiser and honestly am not 100% on that engine either so yeah I really have lost faith in it
Great original comment that applies to other OEMs, too. People like to generalize and create sensationalist messages. Reality is often more nuanced and not that black and white.
After 31 years owning toyota I'm done I'm mad on toyota customer service very bad and toyota don't care about customers ..have 2024 toyota rav 4 xle lots problem with electronics plastic after 16 toyotas no more toyota is not anymore good garbage very very sad
What people need to understand is most of the auto industry wherever it is located in the world is up to their eyeballs in debt. With perhaps the notable exception of Tesla. Everyone is cutting corners and saving cost. Throwing cars together in the cheap parts of the world like Mexico and Romania. This is why they are all going for the premium high-end where the profit is. And that space is getting real crowded.
True but I know of a few people also with new Tundras personally and they have chirped about some issues with theirs but playing it down as there is “warranty”
I bought a 2017 Tacoma new and later traded it for a 2021 Tacoma new. Both had a reliable v6. I would never trade for the new vehicles with smaller displacement and Turbos to try and compensate.
My 2020 Camry turned me from a fan boy to, most likely, never a Toyota again. I happily dumped the car before 20k miles. Nothing but excuses from Toyota. I replaced it with a 10 year old Ford. I would have never thought I'd like a old Ford a lot more than a newer Toyota. I thought the mileage was great with my new Camry when it had over 400 miles on the same tank. It went from above full to empty in less than 40 miles. According to the dealer and the online forums it was my fault for not running the car to empty before refueling.
@@ECPP Yes, I hated that car. It was my first Toyota I didn't like. Every system in it seemed to be broke. I rented cars if I was going to drive very far. I lucked out being able to dump it when car prices were high. It sat in the garage most of time before getting rid of it.
I drive a 2018 Tundra SR5 with the 5.7 V8. No engine issues at all. At all. Just regular maintenance. There's an old saying that good mechanics say: There is no replacement for displacement. Nuf said.
Has nothing to do with rrying to be competitive or innovative. It all has to do with having to pay penalties for producing V8 engines. They're forced to downsize and add turbos
I think the problem is you have influencers pulling extreme loads that most folks would not be pulling in reality uphill at 10k feet where a turbo truck would out perform a V8. Then the manufacturer thinks we need a turbo v6 to compete with Ford.
@ well toyota makes turbo diesels that go forever my friend has a turbo diesel gmc with 800,000 miles. They just messed up on the design. I won’t say all turbos are bad this V6 is bad
@@v.t.4338 turbo DIESELS are an entirely different matter, we are talking about GAS turbos here, and if you cannot see the difference you should probably not speak
My 16 Tundra with the 5.7. I bought new went over 170k before it was totaled. Put an alternator on about 90k, but just routine maintenance. I bought a 23 Tacoma and so far so good.
ya unfortunately their 4-cylinder turbo now in the land cruiser, Tacoma and the 4Runner, they will no way have long term reliability they once had. the dealerships are flooded with Tacoma's they have to offer giant discounts to sell them and after the hype the 4Runner will be the same.
I have no issues with my 2024 Tundra Limited Hybrid with 22000 miles on it. It runs perfectly fine; this issue is occurring in all brands, not just Toyota, particularly those with turbo engines.
I just bought an older Toyota Sienna because I don't want a hybrid. I would have bought new if they offered a regular gas option. If I was looking at full size trucks I would only buy a NA V8. I think people are more concerned with reliability then fuel economy and gadgets they will never use. When I heard about the IMV-0 truck I was excited but they are not coming to North America. I would have bought 2 of them, that is 3 sales they missed out on from me.
I don't buy new but might consider it in 27, after DEI incompetence is eliminated and makers have had a chance to revamp their process in order to reduce failures to levels seen in previous decades.
Mark, try saying Toyota Tundra Twenty Twenty Three truck in twenty degree weather 12 times…. Talk about tongue twisters. You’re the man, keep up the good work 👍.
I wanted to buy my wife the new Land cruiser after all this news That's not happening had Toyotas for my whole family for 30 years!!! THATS OVER THEY CAN KEEP THE JUNK
At first I thought I was watching a two year old video. You’re beating a dead horse! I’ve owned Toyotas and Lexus for over 40 years. They always take care of their customers.
I’ve got a 2002 Volvo V70 T5 184,000 miles with a turbo still going well so surely it’s just they way Toyota have implemented this setup. I would have expected more testing before this was released to avoid these early failures.
I am not against having a turbo charge engine. I own a 2016 Subaru WRX limited only have had two recalls on the vehicle since owning it. I let the turbo charger warm up and take a minute or two and let it cool down when driving before shutting the engine off and have not had any issues with it. The Toyota engine issue on the other hand. Maybe due to the engine block strength based upon design and materials used. As you mentioned the turbo charger waste gate issue early on when the first models came out for the redesign generation. Excellent advice given to people though. Not to purchase the new generation of any vehicle that comes out from any vehicle manufacturer. Those vehicles will always have some type of issue that needs addressing. People who continue to purchase these vehicles knowing that there are issues. Are playing engine roulette with their safety and that of others on the road. To the customers who are demanding reliability, continue to do so because when you are spending such large sums of your hard earned money that is just ridiculous from Toyota, Ford, Chevy or Ram. I’m for less tech and gadgetry on vehicles, but part of that is also consumer driven. I believe Toyota should have kept the naturally aspirated V8 engine around as an option for customers who want a none turbo charge engine option.
I would be amazed if any auto company is spending any development money at all on new engines. Apart from maybe turning whatever else they can find from metal into plastic.
Imagine paying 70 80 k for a truck. Thrn having to wait 6+ months to get an engine put in to actually drive it. Meanwhile, having to pay the payments but cant drive it. Thats insane. Obviously toyota isnt doing there part and testing these engines. Ridiculous!!!! 😠 😡 😤
We have a 2024 RAV4 Prime and 2022 Lexus ES hybrid. No turbos for me, even from Toyota. They don't last in the long run. NO ONE ASKED FOR THIS TOYOTA!!! You should have stuck to what you're good at.
as an old Lexus fan and owner i see a huge downgrade also in interior quality. Hopefully my thick leather and the glorious V6 in my 2010 model will never give up :-) They get woke and cars broke , lol
Warranty is a word…the companies try best to void them. “ you drove your truck on a gravel road? “ sorry, but you caused the blown engine. “ “ you drive your truck with 1/8 tank of fuel?” Sorry, your warranty is voided.
I am in Australia and don’t know the nature of that vehicle. However I do know the new hybrid RAV4 is rubbish compared to the Toyota RAV4 I’ve had in the past. Thank goodness I took it for test drive and didn’t sign on the dotted line.
Everyone keeps saying bring back the naturally aspirated V8s like Toyota has a choice to do so but just screwed up temporarily. No. Look, all these car manufacturers are going to smaller turbocharged engines because the Fed government is forcing them to by mandates. Toyota would love to keep selling Tundras with that bullet proof 5.7 liter NA V8. Why reinvent the wheel by producing a new engine when they had one, the 5.7 V8, which was working just fine? Why, because they were forced to. If we want to have reliable V8s come back we need to hound our elected government representatives about it. The government couldn’t care less if most of us just sat and cried in our Wheaties about it. Consider. 🤔🇺🇸
Sad to hear it. This is not what one would expect from Toyota. They, more or less, have a long standing reputation for getting things right from day one. However, evermore complicated electronics, turbo-charging, and hybridization etc, is also pretty much a losing wicket, as we say in the UK. Government regulations mean that long term reliability is now something from the past.
My 2005 Camry LE...perfect for 15 years and 218,000 miles. Only had to replace shocks, brakes, and spark plugs. My 2020 Camry LE...perfect (so far) for 5 years and 23,000 miles. It looks like Toyota is circling the toilet...just like all the rest of them! What in the HELL is going on?
I'd never buy a turbo tundra new. Forget about them on the used market. The only ones paying these prices are the posers carting a laptop to work or picking up their latte at starbucks.
There are 4 newish Toyotas at my local RAM dealer. 2 Tundras and 2 Tacoma’s. I know this because I took my 2016 for it’s 80,000 mile fluids change. 4 people thought a new RAM was a better option than Toyota.
When you have to take 20 plus parts off to fix the problem you have. That’s when I’m out. I worked on heavy duty industrial equipment and actually enjoyed it. There’s no possible way I could be a tech in today’s market.
I have a 2022 Tundra that had engine replaced at 50,000 miles. It's a good truck. Toyota stands behind the product. Most bitter folks are too poor to afford one.
Its not politics its the V8s are expensive to make now thats why most manufacturers are replacing them with lighter engines..evolutions had its downsides..it is what it is 😐
Toyota and Lexus dealerships are the worst ones around me, so greedy and arrogant! Own 2 tundra and a Camry, but I’m done, absolutely hate the turbo 4s and turbo 6s Toyota made!
Is it possible to go back to the 5.7 V8 engine? I think people would be in line at the Dealerships buying them! Or is it against the law nowadays to do that
I see 100’s of giant suv and pickup everywhere, one person in it , little old man 70 on a walker climbing down out of giant 4x4 , little tiny lady in suburbans . If the object is to save fuel , then people need to downsize their fat bodies and buy something sense able. Price is due to dumb people buying more auto than they need . Waste money .
That’s why I am done with ICE. Give me an EV. AC motors, controller and battery. No 9-10 speed transmission, crank angle sensor, fuel pump, turbos, O2 sensors.
Toyota are saying they want to build exciting cars which simply means overpriced overcomplicated full of useless tech pos.
It seems they are going the way of everyone else.
Customers buying habits tell car manufacturers they want lot of tech, flashly exterior/interior and higher MPG. The issue is customers dont want to pay for what they want. You clearly don't realize Toyota only makes an average of $1300 profit per vehicle. Modern-day vehicles are extremely expensive to design and manufacture.
NO TURBOCHARGED JUNK!!!
Keep it simple
It saves you gas
@@MasterofPlay7 Penny wise, pound foolish.
@@TheUtuber999 no in the long run it will save you thousands
I agree with you 💯 %
Natural aspirated engine only for me
Cheerz
Agreed 100% also no turbos
The first 2025 model engine failure has already been reported.
Big Toyota fan over twenty years with a least four cars but when I went to buy a new SUV a couple of years ago the conversation with the sales person began with him asking me how much over MSRP can you spend? Lost me forever just like Ford did when they had to replace my Taurus transmission three times! Wish you the best!
Toyota bring back the Option of a N/A V8 engine in your full size pick-up 4x4 Tundra Truck !!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸💪💪💪
My thoughts exactly 💯 %
Gas mileage sucked unfortunately.
I LOVE my TOYOTA. It's a 2005 Solara that runs perfect. I paid it off 20 years ago. Even the cassette player still works.
I still want one of those
I would love a solara with the 2.4 and a 5 speed. It would compliment my 5 speed 2004 Honda Accord
Keep it
Quality
You forgot to mention that if you really want a Toyota truck you should just lease one. Then if it breaks, it's their problem, and they owe you a rental or you insist in getting out of the lease if they don't supply you with a rental. That's the secret with a lease, if its in the shop for more than a day, they owe you a rental. If it breaks, no big deal it's there truck. An example is Ford had a truck in for major repairs, told the "lease" customer that there was no complementary rentals available, customer called Ford Canada and Ford called the dealer to set the rules straight, the dealer called the customer saying that Enterprise will be picking him up and hooking him up with a rental. On a lease they owe you wheels. When you buy they just owe you good will on warrantee. (Lemon law's apply of course.)
Lease rhymes with fleece for a reason. Just find a low mile 5.7 and wait for the government regulations to drop and manufacturing to fix their crap.
I agree it is a level of peace of mind, but you are paying through the nose for that warm feeling. Here in the UK over 90% of all car sales are lease of some kind or another. Lease is a posh word for rent.
Back around late 2019 or early 2020 i heard about this new V6. I Told my wife, i want nothing to do with turbos. I know how much greif they cause BMW. My brother in law told me that deals are great due to the pandemic in 2020. I went to Brantford Toyota and placed my order for a TUNDRA TRD OR. I am coming up to 5 years now and 70 000 kms and have had 3 very minor issues. The 5.7 v8 is a fantastic engine. The power it makes is crazy. Last time i checked, my 5 yo Tundra has depreciated maybe 10% since new. BTW, TKs Garage reported that Yota is bringing back the v8... that would be a very astute move.
All auto makers are just making over priced crap which is sad. Pay the price for the new vehicle just to have it armed with recalls and defects. You'd be lucky if a new $90k truck or car lasts a year now.
That is the unfortunate reality these days.
Facts
Sadly Toyota got complacent thanks to no one else building reliable cars
Complacency and the pursuit of the ultimate in profits
No you guys just don't know how to use your cars. in Europe we have 0 of the issues you report.
Biden, climate change BS!
Toyota is starting to follow the crowd of PLANNED OBSOLESCENCE
@shisui3436 wow! your a fool. What a stupid statement 🙄 the difference is we actually drive our trucks for man things here. Pansy!
I had a Toyota Tundra of the 2009 flavor. Bought it used with about 35K miles. It had 5.7 i Force V8. Drove that thing till it showed 182K miles and the only thing that went wrong was one ignition coil. The service manager told me that I was "the lucky one" because that happens once for about 50 000 Toyotas. Diagnostics, parts and labor was about $270.00. Not bad for 9 years of ownership.
Have a great day everyone! Thank you for reliable news in the car world!
For the most part yes, but I dis-agree with him on Toyota. Their reliability has not gone down as much as it sounds. 2 models have had some issues. The Tundra and Tacoma. The issues have been identified and corrected on both. Toyota does not get a pass for this happening, but it does not mean their quality and reliability is gone. The majority of their models have been proven reliable. In the past Toyota has had dips like this and always corrected the issues. I have zero concern that they are on their way out I call Bull Shit on that. If I were buying a vehicle right now brand new it would 100% be a Toyota. Our current 2020 Camry SE has not been in the shop (knock on wood) for anything except service and it is now 5 years old. Plenty of videos with 2020 Camries reaching 300k miles already.
Good morning and welcome to the vid
"People are losing faith in Toyota..."
Whenever someone posts something like this, I always ask the same thing the Car Care Nut asks: "How about the RAV4? Camry? Corolla? Sienna? Highlander? All these are no good? Not important? Why do you still have to wait months to get a Sienna and are lining up to buy one? I don't know, I guess only the Tundra's important."
Granted, the new engines and the additional electronics and features add more points of failure, and the 2025 Camry going full hybrid will cause future concerns. But let's not pretend it's ALL of Toyota failing here.
Yes and the Sky is Falling because Toyota had a couple of models have a few issues. If their entire line up were having issues well then yes I might start to wonder of they are changing, but they are not and the majority of them are as reliable as your going to get right now. If I had the money and could afford a new Tundra I would have zero issues buying one!
Indeed
The Rav 4 has the same engine for years now non turbo. not cheap but still a good one, im not taking about the hybred
I honestly lost faith in all the models I wanted to buy. Tundra, Sequoia, lx600, gx550. I owned 2 of the 4. I am trying a turbo 4 Land Cruiser and honestly am not 100% on that engine either so yeah I really have lost faith in it
Great original comment that applies to other OEMs, too. People like to generalize and create sensationalist messages. Reality is often more nuanced and not that black and white.
After 31 years owning toyota I'm done I'm mad on toyota customer service very bad and toyota don't care about customers ..have 2024 toyota rav 4 xle lots problem with electronics plastic after 16 toyotas no more toyota is not anymore good garbage very very sad
Buy a Toyota/ Lexus no newer than 2015 anything past that is GARBAGE ALL BRANDS ALL MODELS.
What people need to understand is most of the auto industry wherever it is located in the world is up to their eyeballs in debt. With perhaps the notable exception of Tesla. Everyone is cutting corners and saving cost. Throwing cars together in the cheap parts of the world like Mexico and Romania. This is why they are all going for the premium high-end where the profit is. And that space is getting real crowded.
I own a 2007 Toyota FJ cruiser with clean and clear title in hand and I am keeping it forever 😎
People are still buying that junk Tundra. And Toyota fanboys don't really comment on the issues of the Tundra
True but I know of a few people also with new Tundras personally and they have chirped about some issues with theirs but playing it down as there is “warranty”
Correct u never hear about the Tundra problems from Yota fans lol
I was going to buy a new Land Cruiser, but no way, now that Toyota has become the Junk of Japan...
a turbo 4cyl and hybrid for a legendary name. no thanks.
I bought a 2017 Tacoma new and later traded it for a 2021 Tacoma new. Both had a reliable v6. I would never trade for the new vehicles with smaller displacement and Turbos to try and compensate.
My 2020 Camry turned me from a fan boy to, most likely, never a Toyota again. I happily dumped the car before 20k miles. Nothing but excuses from Toyota. I replaced it with a 10 year old Ford. I would have never thought I'd like a old Ford a lot more than a newer Toyota. I thought the mileage was great with my new Camry when it had over 400 miles on the same tank. It went from above full to empty in less than 40 miles. According to the dealer and the online forums it was my fault for not running the car to empty before refueling.
Really?
@@ECPP Yes, I hated that car. It was my first Toyota I didn't like. Every system in it seemed to be broke. I rented cars if I was going to drive very far. I lucked out being able to dump it when car prices were high. It sat in the garage most of time before getting rid of it.
I drive a 2018 Tundra SR5 with the 5.7 V8. No engine issues at all. At all. Just regular maintenance. There's an old saying that good mechanics say: There is no replacement for displacement. Nuf said.
The government forced these car makers to build smaller engines.
Yes a lot of green agenda action items
Has nothing to do with rrying to be competitive or innovative. It all has to do with having to pay penalties for producing V8 engines. They're forced to downsize and add turbos
Yes indeed that fair
I think the problem is you have influencers pulling extreme loads that most folks would not be pulling in reality uphill at 10k feet where a turbo truck would out perform a V8. Then the manufacturer thinks we need a turbo v6 to compete with Ford.
Buy an older Toyota or Lexus with naturally aspirated engine. Turbo equal problems down the road.
NA engines were pretty solid
The 90’s Supra was turbo very reliable. They just messed this one up
@@v.t.4338 supras don't weigh anything compared to a truck
@ well toyota makes turbo diesels that go forever my friend has a turbo diesel gmc with 800,000 miles. They just messed up on the design. I won’t say all turbos are bad this V6 is bad
@@v.t.4338 turbo DIESELS are an entirely different matter, we are talking about GAS turbos here, and if you cannot see the difference you should probably not speak
No wonder the used truck market has gone to berzerk-level prices in the last couple years. Any truck newer than 2018 is junk.
Regulations on emissions are killing amazing engines.
Definitely would recommend buying Gap insurance if you are buying a new gen tundra
Aesthetics *should* be far down the priority list but that Toy pickup is so hideous, ridiculous and cheesy looking I couldn't have it in my driveway.
NO TURBO ever unless it is a diesel engine then it's ok
Or on race cars. Daily commuters it’s simply too much extra mechanical equipment onboard
Governments are going to bankrupt all of these car manufacturers because of these stupid regulations.
My 16 Tundra with the 5.7. I bought new went over 170k before it was totaled. Put an alternator on about 90k, but just routine maintenance. I bought a 23 Tacoma and so far so good.
We are keeping forever our 2021 Tundra Limited 5.7 REAL Engine truck! Fifth Tundra and all flawless trucks and drivetrains.
The more strict the emissions are the more issues modern day engines going to suffer.
Our government dictating to the car companies.
ya unfortunately their 4-cylinder turbo now in the land cruiser, Tacoma and the 4Runner, they will no way have long term reliability they once had. the dealerships are flooded with Tacoma's they have to offer giant discounts to sell them and after the hype the 4Runner will be the same.
Don't forget the Sequioa and Lexus LX600 which also use the same engine.
Turbos are junk and who wants a hybrid truck! No one. It’s a truck it will never get good mpg.
Cheers
I have no issues with my 2024 Tundra Limited Hybrid with 22000 miles on it. It runs perfectly fine; this issue is occurring in all brands, not just Toyota, particularly those with turbo engines.
I just bought an older Toyota Sienna because I don't want a hybrid. I would have bought new if they offered a regular gas option. If I was looking at full size trucks I would only buy a NA V8. I think people are more concerned with reliability then fuel economy and gadgets they will never use. When I heard about the IMV-0 truck I was excited but they are not coming to North America. I would have bought 2 of them, that is 3 sales they missed out on from me.
It is sad to see that they are not keeping the old tried and true options for us.
I don't buy new but might consider it in 27, after DEI incompetence is eliminated and makers have had a chance to revamp their process in order to reduce failures to levels seen in previous decades.
Mark, try saying Toyota Tundra Twenty Twenty Three truck in twenty degree weather 12 times…. Talk about tongue twisters. You’re the man, keep up the good work 👍.
I wanted to buy my wife the new Land cruiser after all this news That's not happening had Toyotas for my whole family for 30 years!!! THATS OVER THEY CAN KEEP THE JUNK
Tundra has an ass ugly front end. 😂 No V8, toilet. Thanks for the video.
too late for those who are already into to it but moving forward stay the hell away from these late model tundra's and tacos.
Indeed
Bring back simple reliable trucks. I'm still driving the 1993 Toyota pickup I bought new.
At first I thought I was watching a two year old video. You’re beating a dead horse! I’ve owned Toyotas and Lexus for over 40 years. They always take care of their customers.
So they didn't refuse to honor warranties when those Corollas burned to the frame?
I’ve got a 2002 Volvo V70 T5 184,000 miles with a turbo still going well so surely it’s just they way Toyota have implemented this setup. I would have expected more testing before this was released to avoid these early failures.
Cost and cafe regulations.
I don't think the Toyota customer base is fond of twin-turbo'd V-6 motors.....I'm not regardless of the manufacturer.
I would agree with that
I waited years for them to figure out this engine and still don't believe it has been fixed. Bought a 21 trd pro and love it. Peace of mind has value.
I am not against having a turbo charge engine. I own a 2016 Subaru WRX limited only have had two recalls on the vehicle since owning it. I let the turbo charger warm up and take a minute or two and let it cool down when driving before shutting the engine off and have not had any issues with it. The Toyota engine issue on the other hand. Maybe due to the engine block strength based upon design and materials used. As you mentioned the turbo charger waste gate issue early on when the first models came out for the redesign generation. Excellent advice given to people though. Not to purchase the new generation of any vehicle that comes out from any vehicle manufacturer. Those vehicles will always have some type of issue that needs addressing. People who continue to purchase these vehicles knowing that there are issues. Are playing engine roulette with their safety and that of others on the road. To the customers who are demanding reliability, continue to do so because when you are spending such large sums of your hard earned money that is just ridiculous from Toyota, Ford, Chevy or Ram. I’m for less tech and gadgetry on vehicles, but part of that is also consumer driven. I believe Toyota should have kept the naturally aspirated V8 engine around as an option for customers who want a none turbo charge engine option.
What's your opinion on the new hybrid only camrys? Is it a new engine or just the exiting generation hybrid version?
I would be amazed if any auto company is spending any development money at all on new engines. Apart from maybe turning whatever else they can find from metal into plastic.
@@ouethojlkjn Wasn't that part of this video? Toyota put a new engine in the new trucks and its going bad. v8 normal to v6 turbo.
Imagine paying 70 80 k for a truck. Thrn having to wait 6+ months to get an engine put in to actually drive it. Meanwhile, having to pay the payments but cant drive it. Thats insane. Obviously toyota isnt doing there part and testing these engines. Ridiculous!!!! 😠 😡 😤
We have a 2024 RAV4 Prime and 2022 Lexus ES hybrid. No turbos for me, even from Toyota. They don't last in the long run. NO ONE ASKED FOR THIS TOYOTA!!! You should have stuck to what you're good at.
as an old Lexus fan and owner i see a huge downgrade also in interior quality. Hopefully my thick leather and the glorious V6 in my 2010 model will never give up :-) They get woke and cars broke , lol
Old Toyotas will eventually cost the equivalent of a new one.
American California restrictions resulted in this move by Toyota and it's a crying shame
Warranty is a word…the companies try best to void them. “ you drove your truck on a gravel road? “ sorry, but you caused the blown engine.
“ “ you drive your truck with 1/8 tank of fuel?” Sorry, your warranty is voided.
I am in Australia and don’t know the nature of that vehicle. However I do know the new hybrid RAV4 is rubbish compared to the Toyota RAV4 I’ve had in the past. Thank goodness I took it for test drive and didn’t sign on the dotted line.
Tundra sales were up huge last year.
Yes and many are headed right back for the recall
@ go play in the snow or make another stupid thumbnail
Nice video. Do a lease to match the warranty!? 3 year/36k.. Then unload the hog! Cheers from the Finger Lakes!
Agreed. Thanks fornwatching
Everyone keeps saying bring back the naturally aspirated V8s like Toyota has a choice to do so but just screwed up temporarily. No. Look, all these car manufacturers are going to smaller turbocharged engines because the Fed government is forcing them to by mandates. Toyota would love to keep selling Tundras with that bullet proof 5.7 liter NA V8. Why reinvent the wheel by producing a new engine when they had one, the 5.7 V8, which was working just fine? Why, because they were forced to.
If we want to have reliable V8s come back we need to hound our elected government representatives about it. The government couldn’t care less if most of us just sat and cried in our Wheaties about it. Consider. 🤔🇺🇸
Like the looks of the 2022plus truck.
But no Tundra for me with that engine…
They wanted more power and not hurt fuel economy as much. Forced induction works better at elevation compared to NA.
Yes it elevations turbos still make top power and less is lost due to altitude
Sad to hear it. This is not what one would expect from Toyota. They, more or less, have a long standing reputation for getting things right from day one. However, evermore complicated electronics, turbo-charging, and hybridization etc, is also pretty much a losing wicket, as we say in the UK. Government regulations mean that long term reliability is now something from the past.
You are right. Reliability and affordable cars that we can keep for 20 years is all over
My 2005 Camry LE...perfect for 15 years and 218,000 miles. Only had to replace shocks, brakes, and spark plugs. My 2020 Camry LE...perfect (so far) for 5 years and 23,000 miles. It looks like Toyota is circling the toilet...just like all the rest of them! What in the HELL is going on?
Word on the mean streets of Bend, Oregon is that Toyota make fairly decent cars
Thanks for sharing
Looked at the new Tacoma. Almost 70,000 dollars. I could write a check but I’d feel plain stupid. Gonna drive my ‘14 FJ for many more years.
I'd never buy a turbo tundra new. Forget about them on the used market. The only ones paying these prices are the posers carting a laptop to work or picking up their latte at starbucks.
There are 4 newish Toyotas at my local RAM dealer. 2 Tundras and 2 Tacoma’s. I know this because I took my 2016 for it’s 80,000 mile fluids change. 4 people thought a new RAM was a better option than Toyota.
When you have to take 20 plus parts off to fix the problem you have. That’s when I’m out. I worked on heavy duty industrial equipment and actually enjoyed it. There’s no possible way I could be a tech in today’s market.
I’ll still with my 2016 RX 3.5 liter V6 (61,000 miles)
If something were to happen to this I’d get a 2022 v6
I have a 2022 Tundra that had engine replaced at 50,000 miles. It's a good truck. Toyota stands behind the product. Most bitter folks are too poor to afford one.
Imagine here in Europe they’re replacing 2.0-2.5 and even 1.6liter engines for 1.2-1.5l turbocharged engines. They’ll definitely last 200.000tkm…. 👌🏻
They should have sold that truck initially for $35k instead of selling it for $60k and ripping people off
They look amazing it’s just unfortunate about the reliability issues.
Now that Toyota is following Ford and GM I’m investing in 2 bulls and a wagon.
Thanks for convincing me (as if it were needed) to keep my first gen Tacoma forever.
I have a 3.4 in my truck no problems yet.......1996 t100😊
can someone tell to Toyota to produce big long cargo vans and box trucks with manual and RWD - to work and live in!
Cheers
There's a reason Tundra is called Turd. Toyota is living up to the nickname. Will get 10x worse if the 2.4T used elsewhere becomes problematic.
Yes the new Tundra and Tacoma are a major change and now we see issues. Not as much with the older platforms
Toyota service departments can testify to the unreliability of these new engines.
Its not politics its the V8s are expensive to make now thats why most manufacturers are replacing them with lighter engines..evolutions had its downsides..it is what it is 😐
Thanks
The new 3.4 should be called BAD 13
Haha yes for sure m. Thanks Vincent
Hate the looks of the new Tundra. Loved my 2007 and 2010 model but mileage was terrible with the 5.7.
Pickup truck driver a kind of SOL right now because ALL of the OEMs are making very expensive junk. I hope my current truck outlives me.
Toyota and Lexus dealerships are the worst ones around me, so greedy and arrogant! Own 2 tundra and a Camry, but I’m done, absolutely hate the turbo 4s and turbo 6s Toyota made!
Chinese cars are about to hit the market in a big way and the traditional manufacturers won't know what hit them.
Indeed
Got the impression the turbo thing for passenger rigs is emissions?
It sounds like a class action lawsuit coming. How about replacing with the V-8 or replace it with a crate vette engine.
Is it possible to go back to the 5.7 V8 engine? I think people would be in line at the Dealerships buying them! Or is it against the law nowadays to do that
I would love to have a Toyota or Lexus, BUT one that's 4 +years old (without the turbo engines!!!!)
Instead to go for the fast, strong or fancy. Why do go available?
Well…..
just stick to the reliable corrola and cambry.
Yes Camry and regular Corolla are winners. Highlander is not bad either nor is the Rav4
I have a 22 and no problems at all.
Nice
It seems like it's the tundras and some Lx's that have the problem. Because I'm not hearing no other parts of the lineup that having problems.
I laughed at the Elmer Fudd impression.
Yota always had issues with redesigns, they will be fine
Turbos have a place in diesels and race cars. I have no use for one in my daily driver gas car.
How is the new generation camry doing so far?
I see 100’s of giant suv and pickup everywhere, one person in it , little old man 70 on a walker climbing down out of giant 4x4 , little tiny lady in suburbans . If the object is to save fuel , then people need to downsize their fat bodies and buy something sense able. Price is due to dumb people buying more auto than they need . Waste money .
That’s why I am done with ICE. Give me an EV. AC motors, controller and battery. No 9-10 speed transmission, crank angle sensor, fuel pump, turbos, O2 sensors.