Thank you for showing how to do that. But man that is painfully complex. Survey Pro is sooo much more simple. The first time I did it in Access I didn't think I was ever going to get it
Joshua Ellis lol. Old Survey Pro guy here as well. Each software has something better than the other. I use Access because it does things Survey Pro doesn’t do or do well. Big one it won’t run an SX10!!!!!
@@SurveyingWithRobert that's a great point. I've been using Survey Pro for 15 years and am trying to learn Access. Trying not to kick and scream the whole way.
Hello Robert! Nice video (as per usual). I wanted to ask you if you had any issues using station elevation when bringing the data into TBC. I have noticed some field crews using this procedure and it causes all sorts of flags and errors in TBC. I am trying to determine if it is a software issue or if the field crews are not following the correct procedure. Thanks.
Could you review how to make Access remember descriptions within each job? I know you can import a description list but, can you make it build one for each job as you go? (Like Survey Pro)
I appreciate that you take the time to make these videos but you go through everything way too fast for the level that I’m at. I have a gps rover setup with the site tablet scs900. I also have an sps930 total station with a tsc7 tablet and siteworks. My company provides me with all the tools, but for some reason they have no interest in any kind of training. 80% of what I’ve learned is from trial and error and watching TH-cam videos from people such as yourself. Can you recommend any videos that would go into much more detail on how to go about setting up a bare site such as my own property to be able to practice on? Currently if I want to practice I have to drive an hour to the job site because it’s the only model setup that I know how to use.
2 thoughts. You can use survey basic to determine the height of the instrument or elevation of your occupied point without first backsighting. Its in the quick menu when you tap the instrument icon. Second if you have a hard elevation on your backsight point you can trig the height of the instrument during the backsight routine. Say I'm set up on a gps point so the elevation of point is close but I want to hold the elevation of the backsight point. If the tape reads 5.38 i enter 5.00 for instrument height and shoot the backsight point. The vertical error reads 0.436 and before i accept the backsight I hit escape and make the instrument height 5.436 and then shoot the backsight again. The vertical error is now 0.000 Survey Pro was easier for that one thing but access is better overall.
@@SurveyingWithRobert Oh? well here's another bad idea. Get setup, stakeout to any old point while occupying your benchmark and just change the rod height in the collector until you are reading the correct elevation. At least with my method of setting up the rod height is true. Besides what is the difference between doing what I suggest and a resection? While I do appreciate your zingers, how about suggesting a better method.
Yes,, it is a shame. I use remote elevation on the finish floor to make the curb match the existing concrete not my calcs as it always seems to be a tenth or more off. Sometimes they hit it right. I will just have to use the auto level and set control. Thank you for the videos. My TSC 3 and 7 still have survey pro for the time being. Just seems like Trimble would have improved the process not convoluted it. Anyhow, thank you again sir. Your videos are informative.
This is one of my favorite routines in Access. I'm a PS in Michigan. Thanks for the great videos!
Nicely done Robert!!!!
Thank you for showing how to do that. But man that is painfully complex. Survey Pro is sooo much more simple. The first time I did it in Access I didn't think I was ever going to get it
Joshua Ellis lol. Old Survey Pro guy here as well. Each software has something better than the other. I use Access because it does things Survey Pro doesn’t do or do well. Big one it won’t run an SX10!!!!!
@@SurveyingWithRobert that's a great point. I've been using Survey Pro for 15 years and am trying to learn Access. Trying not to kick and scream the whole way.
it can be done in another way. all you need to do is enter the point with no xy, only h, and then measure it in station elevation.
Hello Robert! Nice video (as per usual). I wanted to ask you if you had any issues using station elevation when bringing the data into TBC. I have noticed some field crews using this procedure and it causes all sorts of flags and errors in TBC. I am trying to determine if it is a software issue or if the field crews are not following the correct procedure. Thanks.
Could you review how to make Access remember descriptions within each job? I know you can import a description list but, can you make it build one for each job as you go? (Like Survey Pro)
Joshua Ellis you need to build a feature code. Video coming soon.
Could you make a video about resection Robert?
I use station elevation instead of running a benchloop it makes it easier wen you are a one man crew.
So, is remote elevate to pretty much determine the elevation of total station?
It’s to establish an elevation at the instrument.
I appreciate that you take the time to make these videos but you go through everything way too fast for the level that I’m at. I have a gps rover setup with the site tablet scs900. I also have an sps930 total station with a tsc7 tablet and siteworks. My company provides me with all the tools, but for some reason they have no interest in any kind of training. 80% of what I’ve learned is from trial and error and watching TH-cam videos from people such as yourself. Can you recommend any videos that would go into much more detail on how to go about setting up a bare site such as my own property to be able to practice on? Currently if I want to practice I have to drive an hour to the job site because it’s the only model setup that I know how to use.
It's the same thing in Canada my friend. Had to switch from Leica to Trimble and learn all over again... That's the shittiest part of surveying.
2 thoughts. You can use survey basic to determine the height of the instrument or elevation of your occupied point without first backsighting. Its in the quick menu when you tap the instrument icon. Second if you have a hard elevation on your backsight point you can trig the height of the instrument during the backsight routine. Say I'm set up on a gps point so the elevation of point is close but I want to hold the elevation of the backsight point. If the tape reads 5.38 i enter 5.00 for instrument height and shoot the backsight point. The vertical error reads 0.436 and before i accept the backsight I hit escape and make the instrument height 5.436 and then shoot the backsight again. The vertical error is now 0.000
Survey Pro was easier for that one thing but access is better overall.
Damn that’s the most complicated way I can think of to do that. Your asking for problems.
@@SurveyingWithRobert Oh? well here's another bad idea. Get setup, stakeout to any old point while occupying your benchmark and just change the rod height in the collector until you are reading the correct elevation.
At least with my method of setting up the rod height is true. Besides what is the difference between doing what I suggest and a resection? While I do appreciate your zingers, how about suggesting a better method.
This is not an improvement over survey pro. Remote elevation should not be that difficult. Thank you for the video all the same.
Agreed, SP makes more sense. However SP is going away.
Yes,, it is a shame. I use remote elevation on the finish floor to make the curb match the existing concrete not my calcs as it always seems to be a tenth or more off. Sometimes they hit it right. I will just have to use the auto level and set control. Thank you for the videos. My TSC 3 and 7 still have survey pro for the time being. Just seems like Trimble would have improved the process not convoluted it. Anyhow, thank you again sir. Your videos are informative.