Thank you for putting this together. I'm awaiting arrival of my rMPP (5 days to go) and had no idea the tagging system was this powerful. The ability to tag at the object as well as page level is amazing-I have no idea why reMarkable doesn't highlight this capability more! Also, the bookmark/Lesezeichen tag is brilliant!
Tags is semantically a more powerful system than internal links between documents because you can see and immediately understand the nature of the link you have established between several documents (this nature is thematical and explicit) . Other advantage : In RMPP, the presence of the TAGS touch in the main menu allows that you can see almost immediately all the documents linked under the same theme . On Supernote, you can make internal links between documents but you have to memorize why you did these links and one link allows you to see only one another document.
Thanks for your comment. I really do like the simplicity and easily accessible tag system. As you pointed out, because it adds a semantic layer, it's important for me not to be limited to one category of documents (notes as on Onyx). I also love the implementation to tag pages rather than documents only, which made me almost drop my tag system on MacOS, where I as using it to tag notes, text documents, and e-books, but not anything else. Missing of course is the flexibility to extend it to further "knowledge related" file types, like slides and long form texts (Word, Pages, Google docs and the like) as well as my LaTeX collection ... I cannot comment on Supernote, but if it is similar to backlinks in various note taking apps having become a hype starting with Roam Research, this is something which never helped me to be more productive. My most productive way is handwriting and reducing a minimal amount of note taking (which you do automatically when handwriting, because it is slower). I can remember all my notes in a graphical way, because my brain is very visual. Sometimes, I cannot read the content :-) it's like out of focus ... But I know where to look, and the tags help incredibly to narrow down the amount of documents to look at. Makes any sense??
Very well covered, this Tag feature is missed in a lot of reviews. Have you used the Ad Ins yet for Word, Power Point, Chrome yet? The Chrome Ad In lets you send directly to your rMPP your current website page. The other feature not shown much is the active screen share function in the rM application.
I hadn't thought of using a tag for bookmarking, very cool! I do use tags for managing tasks. For example if I am in a staff meeting and I get a ToDo task, I tag the page of notes with ToDo. I also write a double asterisk next to the the item in my notes.. As the day or week(s) go by I can search on the tag ToDo and find everything that isn't done. When I find an item and if I can complete immediately I then remove the ToDo tag. If I can't complete the task at that time, maybe I write it on a ToDo list. But the point is the tagging system is fast and flexible. Like tags the RM2 and Paper Pro, can be used in all sorts of ways. For example, I use the layer feature heavily. I get floor plans in PDF format and mark them up using layers. When I review a floor plan I have a process where I make several reviews. What is where it should be gets a tick mark on one layer. What isn't shown gets drawn in on a separate layer. Notes to myself on another layer. Notes to the general contractor on another layer. I can turn off the display of any layer, so if I want to count network drops, I turn on the tick mark layer and the layer of missing drops. That tells me how many I should have once the floor plans are revised. You can even turn off the PDF layer. This is very helpful when I have noted something missing, but can't see it with all the clutter of the floor plan. So I turn off the floor plan, and can immediately see the handwritten note or mark on essentially a blank page--no clutter. I then zoom in, turn the PDF floor plan back on and now I can see that the missing item is in office 3500 for example. And having the ability to have the notes instantly available on my phone is such a convenience. I'm at my desk, someone calls with an issue on the network. I make a note on a new quicksheets page. I then run to the network closet relevant to the issue and try to remember did they say wall jack MC-1-235 or 225? I grab my phone, open the remarkable app and look at the quicksheets page, it was 225:)! Of course this requires the cloud subscription. But since I use this for real work and want to have a backup of my data should I lose my RM device or should it get smashed in some mishap the subscription is a must and provides added utility as just explained. There are lots of videos provided by Remarkable to learn how to use the device, and there are many TH-cam videos like this one that provide some practical use of a feature in a way perhaps not thought of by you. The device is just awesome!
Many thanks for your comprehensive comment. I was travelling the last weeks and used the device as well for real work. While it may be a toy for some, once you start using it professionally, your find so many ways it is really supporting you without holding you back. There are a few things they could add to make it even more versatile, but I seem to become more and more "old-fashioned" finding that the simpler the better it is. I have also started to use layers more actively recently, but I seem to have less use cases than you with my work. Also +1 to your remark regarding the subscription. The world has anyway become "subscription based", like it or not. In this case, the value by far exceeds the relatively small costs and allows me to add an awful lot of documents and e-books in addition to my notes, so I really appreciate the entire platform. Only thing I am missing on the Android app: the presentation mode. I use it on a Chromebook, and since this is a laptop but cannot run the full "desktop" app, this is a missed opportunity from my point of view. Also maybe for some users having a flip phone, which could also double as a presentation device with a screen or beamer attached. Defeinitely a keeper for me :-)
the #Tags of the RM-System are great because they work everywhere: Folders, PDFs, eBooks, Notebooks - both on documents and single pages. That‘s unique in the eInk space! on the BOOX system the tags are more a search index. That is also cool, because you can find content very fast - but that‘s not how #Tags usually work. And you can use Tags only in notebooks. And another point: if you take a look to the search result on a BOOX device you get always a list of text while on the reMarkable you see the pages, e. g. your handwritings. That is much more digital paper like - as it would be on a real notebook.
Fully agree, if even if some fancy features (like text recognition) are missing, this is actually useless for me as I close to never tag a single word on a page. Ether a page or a full document. And the missing ebook tagging on Onyx Boox is a missed opportunity and makes the tagging practically useless. So in this case, reMarkable has actually the more advanced implementation from my perspective.
One problem that I noticed is that when you go to the tags list, they are not in alphabetic order and when the number of tags increases, it is very annoying trying to find a specific one
I am not sure, but for me it happens on all e-ink devices, but not on iPad and smartphones. I just know my fingers are usually quite "dry" and I think the layers on e-ink devices are less responsive because the overall performance is lower. Just a theory, but because there is no difference for my fingers on Onyx devices, I got used to it. But thanks, I will try the more "gentle" approach, maybe this helps 😄
Just my type of researcher. Super detailed video. Thank you. Is there a way to jump from a page-level tag in a book to a page of another book that has the same tag, or maybe to a list of pages across all the books that contain the same tag?
Many thanks for your comment. Not sure about the first part of your question, but what does work is to select in the "Tags" section, whether you want to see page level tags, document level tags or both. If you select page level tags and then select a particular tag to filter, you find all the pages in the same and different documents. And it's really fast and convenient!
This is a tough question, as it really depends on your needs. If you have watched my and other videos and reviews and seen other commenters, there are mainly two "philosophies": (1) The Android tablet mindset. If you want a device which does it all, with some limitations regarding the low latency of the screen, then e.g. the Boox Android based e-ink tablets can give you an alternative to other tablets with backlit display. But Kaleido3 e-ink is definitely not the best color option. (3) If reading and handwriting (notes, annotations) are your primary focus, and you want a large size (like iPad Pro) plus the best e-ink color option, then I don't see any alternative to the reMarkable Paper Pro at the moment. But you need to know what it is for, and what not because it cannot do anything else than what it is intended for.
Unfortunately the current filter only allows selecting one or multiple tags. Multiple meaning you filter for a strict AND, there is no way of OR, NOT or even any more fancy Boolean logic ... It's very basic but unless you have hundreds of tags and documents, it is still sufficiently powerful for me. But maybe there is more to come in the future. It's all possible with a software update ...
The minimalistic approach is intentional, and regarding the tags, this is not even true, they are actually more advanced on the reMPP compared to the Onyx Boox's. Supernote I don't know yet, waiting for the A4 sized color version 😄
@@Artellico Without an index and search system, managing complex projects is impossible or very difficult. Tags are not enough. Supernote, in addition to the header function, converts text in the background as you type, so you can search for it quickly. Remarkable is especially useful for sketches or unstructured notes. Supernote has announced that they are not interested in using color at this time, so there is no reason to wait. So enjoy the Remarkable Paper Pro in color. 🙂
So reMarkable is for idiots, retarded and kindergarten users...! I am retired from niche medical field and use my reM2 and Pro 99% of time and subjects, and I wish I could had a reMarkable from 40 years ago! I guess that are some bright intelects out there that can only function and are entitled to use Supernote or Onix... I'll stick to my reMarkables (and yes, I like them so much that I have a reM2 still wrapped and unpacked to use as a spare if something wrong happens to the one in current use)!
No the reMarkable Operating System has nothing like that, it is an ebook reader and note taking device with focus on digital hand writing. You can convert handwriting to eletronic text (using the cloud service) and then taking the text from the reMarkable app and copy it to the translation service of your choice. Hope this helps.
Thank you for putting this together. I'm awaiting arrival of my rMPP (5 days to go) and had no idea the tagging system was this powerful. The ability to tag at the object as well as page level is amazing-I have no idea why reMarkable doesn't highlight this capability more! Also, the bookmark/Lesezeichen tag is brilliant!
Awesome take on the topic. I did not realize tags work across the file extensions (epub, pdf, nore). Thank you
This was immensely useful! Thank you for making it.
Tags is semantically a more powerful system than internal links between documents because you can see and immediately understand the nature of the link you have established between several documents (this nature is thematical and explicit) . Other advantage : In RMPP, the presence of the TAGS touch in the main menu allows that you can see almost immediately all the documents linked under the same theme . On Supernote, you can make internal links between documents but you have to memorize why you did these links and one link allows you to see only one another document.
Thanks for your comment. I really do like the simplicity and easily accessible tag system. As you pointed out, because it adds a semantic layer, it's important for me not to be limited to one category of documents (notes as on Onyx). I also love the implementation to tag pages rather than documents only, which made me almost drop my tag system on MacOS, where I as using it to tag notes, text documents, and e-books, but not anything else. Missing of course is the flexibility to extend it to further "knowledge related" file types, like slides and long form texts (Word, Pages, Google docs and the like) as well as my LaTeX collection ...
I cannot comment on Supernote, but if it is similar to backlinks in various note taking apps having become a hype starting with Roam Research, this is something which never helped me to be more productive. My most productive way is handwriting and reducing a minimal amount of note taking (which you do automatically when handwriting, because it is slower). I can remember all my notes in a graphical way, because my brain is very visual. Sometimes, I cannot read the content :-) it's like out of focus ... But I know where to look, and the tags help incredibly to narrow down the amount of documents to look at.
Makes any sense??
Very well covered, this Tag feature is missed in a lot of reviews. Have you used the Ad Ins yet for Word, Power Point, Chrome yet? The Chrome Ad In lets you send directly to your rMPP your current website page. The other feature not shown much is the active screen share function in the rM application.
I hadn't thought of using a tag for bookmarking, very cool! I do use tags for managing tasks. For example if I am in a staff meeting and I get a ToDo task, I tag the page of notes with ToDo. I also write a double asterisk next to the the item in my notes.. As the day or week(s) go by I can search on the tag ToDo and find everything that isn't done. When I find an item and if I can complete immediately I then remove the ToDo tag. If I can't complete the task at that time, maybe I write it on a ToDo list. But the point is the tagging system is fast and flexible. Like tags the RM2 and Paper Pro, can be used in all sorts of ways. For example, I use the layer feature heavily. I get floor plans in PDF format and mark them up using layers. When I review a floor plan I have a process where I make several reviews. What is where it should be gets a tick mark on one layer. What isn't shown gets drawn in on a separate layer. Notes to myself on another layer. Notes to the general contractor on another layer. I can turn off the display of any layer, so if I want to count network drops, I turn on the tick mark layer and the layer of missing drops. That tells me how many I should have once the floor plans are revised. You can even turn off the PDF layer. This is very helpful when I have noted something missing, but can't see it with all the clutter of the floor plan. So I turn off the floor plan, and can immediately see the handwritten note or mark on essentially a blank page--no clutter. I then zoom in, turn the PDF floor plan back on and now I can see that the missing item is in office 3500 for example. And having the ability to have the notes instantly available on my phone is such a convenience. I'm at my desk, someone calls with an issue on the network. I make a note on a new quicksheets page. I then run to the network closet relevant to the issue and try to remember did they say wall jack MC-1-235 or 225? I grab my phone, open the remarkable app and look at the quicksheets page, it was 225:)! Of course this requires the cloud subscription. But since I use this for real work and want to have a backup of my data should I lose my RM device or should it get smashed in some mishap the subscription is a must and provides added utility as just explained. There are lots of videos provided by Remarkable to learn how to use the device, and there are many TH-cam videos like this one that provide some practical use of a feature in a way perhaps not thought of by you. The device is just awesome!
Many thanks for your comprehensive comment. I was travelling the last weeks and used the device as well for real work. While it may be a toy for some, once you start using it professionally, your find so many ways it is really supporting you without holding you back. There are a few things they could add to make it even more versatile, but I seem to become more and more "old-fashioned" finding that the simpler the better it is.
I have also started to use layers more actively recently, but I seem to have less use cases than you with my work.
Also +1 to your remark regarding the subscription. The world has anyway become "subscription based", like it or not. In this case, the value by far exceeds the relatively small costs and allows me to add an awful lot of documents and e-books in addition to my notes, so I really appreciate the entire platform. Only thing I am missing on the Android app: the presentation mode. I use it on a Chromebook, and since this is a laptop but cannot run the full "desktop" app, this is a missed opportunity from my point of view. Also maybe for some users having a flip phone, which could also double as a presentation device with a screen or beamer attached.
Defeinitely a keeper for me :-)
I use a #Tag to mark pages with uncompleted todos (e. g. #!fw which is a shortcut for follow-up)
the #Tags of the RM-System are great because they work everywhere: Folders, PDFs, eBooks, Notebooks - both on documents and single pages. That‘s unique in the eInk space! on the BOOX system the tags are more a search index. That is also cool, because you can find content very fast - but that‘s not how #Tags usually work. And you can use Tags only in notebooks. And another point: if you take a look to the search result on a BOOX device you get always a list of text while on the reMarkable you see the pages, e. g. your handwritings. That is much more digital paper like - as it would be on a real notebook.
Fully agree, if even if some fancy features (like text recognition) are missing, this is actually useless for me as I close to never tag a single word on a page. Ether a page or a full document.
And the missing ebook tagging on Onyx Boox is a missed opportunity and makes the tagging practically useless. So in this case, reMarkable has actually the more advanced implementation from my perspective.
Ha I better keep my reMarkable Paper Pro ☺️ I’m not sure I need color 🤔 Appreciate the light because I can use it in a dark room or at night 😁
Superb idea and approach, thanks for sharing
One problem that I noticed is that when you go to the tags list, they are not in alphabetic order and when the number of tags increases, it is very annoying trying to find a specific one
I noticed that several times in your video, the RPP doesn't respond (or is slow to respond) to your touch input. Do you notice this often?
Some other youtuber said if you tap gently it never happens
I am not sure, but for me it happens on all e-ink devices, but not on iPad and smartphones. I just know my fingers are usually quite "dry" and I think the layers on e-ink devices are less responsive because the overall performance is lower. Just a theory, but because there is no difference for my fingers on Onyx devices, I got used to it.
But thanks, I will try the more "gentle" approach, maybe this helps 😄
@@Artellico If it has the same hit rate as the Note Air 3C, I can live with that. Thanks!
Just my type of researcher. Super detailed video. Thank you. Is there a way to jump from a page-level tag in a book to a page of another book that has the same tag, or maybe to a list of pages across all the books that contain the same tag?
Many thanks for your comment. Not sure about the first part of your question, but what does work is to select in the "Tags" section, whether you want to see page level tags, document level tags or both. If you select page level tags and then select a particular tag to filter, you find all the pages in the same and different documents. And it's really fast and convenient!
That Leizerchaxen tag was a good one
Lesezeichen :-)
In your experience with e-ink devices, is the reMarkable Paper Pro the best device (in your opinion)?
This is a tough question, as it really depends on your needs. If you have watched my and other videos and reviews and seen other commenters, there are mainly two "philosophies":
(1) The Android tablet mindset. If you want a device which does it all, with some limitations regarding the low latency of the screen, then e.g. the Boox Android based e-ink tablets can give you an alternative to other tablets with backlit display. But Kaleido3 e-ink is definitely not the best color option.
(3) If reading and handwriting (notes, annotations) are your primary focus, and you want a large size (like iPad Pro) plus the best e-ink color option, then I don't see any alternative to the reMarkable Paper Pro at the moment. But you need to know what it is for, and what not because it cannot do anything else than what it is intended for.
@@Artellico thank you ❤
Can you filter on multiple tags? So only show an item if it contains tag A *and* (not or) tag B?
Unfortunately the current filter only allows selecting one or multiple tags. Multiple meaning you filter for a strict AND, there is no way of OR, NOT or even any more fancy Boolean logic ... It's very basic but unless you have hundreds of tags and documents, it is still sufficiently powerful for me. But maybe there is more to come in the future. It's all possible with a software update ...
@ it’s a fairly old OS with not much maturity. They are creating more complications by refusing to introduce basic quality of life features.
How do you erase a tag from the tag list?
long press/tap on a #Tag, then you can rename or delete it
@@airestocky Thanks for your response!
The Remarkable tools are ridiculous, compared to what you can do with Boox or Supernote software. They look like tools suitable for children. 🙂
The minimalistic approach is intentional, and regarding the tags, this is not even true, they are actually more advanced on the reMPP compared to the Onyx Boox's. Supernote I don't know yet, waiting for the A4 sized color version 😄
@@Artellico Without an index and search system, managing complex projects is impossible or very difficult. Tags are not enough. Supernote, in addition to the header function, converts text in the background as you type, so you can search for it quickly. Remarkable is especially useful for sketches or unstructured notes.
Supernote has announced that they are not interested in using color at this time, so there is no reason to wait. So enjoy the Remarkable Paper Pro in color. 🙂
So reMarkable is for idiots, retarded and kindergarten users...!
I am retired from niche medical field and use my reM2 and Pro 99% of time and subjects, and I wish I could had a reMarkable from 40 years ago!
I guess that are some bright intelects out there that can only function and are entitled to use Supernote or Onix...
I'll stick to my reMarkables (and yes, I like them so much that I have a reM2 still wrapped and unpacked to use as a spare if something wrong happens to the one in current use)!
It all depends on what you want to use it for. For me and my purposes, the RPP is the best choice.
When I read I need a translator, because I read in different languages Remarkable. Has a translator or a solution
Thanks
No the reMarkable Operating System has nothing like that, it is an ebook reader and note taking device with focus on digital hand writing. You can convert handwriting to eletronic text (using the cloud service) and then taking the text from the reMarkable app and copy it to the translation service of your choice. Hope this helps.