You're telling ME, that Darius and xena are doomed to fail as a relationship? I am gobsmacked, bamboozled, thrown for a loop even! I NEVER, could have seen this coming
I thought I'd be alone with this opinion?! I mean Kelly-Jean is Kelly-Jean but I don't even know why she comes on stream just to get verbally attacked on every single thing she says. I mean, he gets particularly nasty n eveel to her, much more than anyone else?! It's weird? She can't feel good about hanging out with her good friend?? It's not a good look for him.
Kelly's argument in a nutshell is "they won't follow the correct advice, so instead, give them the worst advice so they'll at least feel better". Destiny's right, she'd might as well tell Xena to just die.
No Kelly’s argument is, she’s seen that type a bunch so here’s the best advice I think to give after all these failures. People like Xena need to be broken down and retaught from the beginning because she consistently crashes and burns but does not hit true rock bottom
@@MrAlwaysOnTen Tell her to join the army. Or maybe she should do a night shift at a factory for a few weeks. Maybe she should sleep with the poor & unatractive people for a week!?!! .... How is flying around & dating would break her!? * Its like telling an obese person to eat more cakes to break them down.
@@NATEDO6G"hey if there gonna do it anyway I might as well give them advice to suit the situation. The bushes might be a setup because if you are unlucky you might survive"
@@taurean06031990 it is always medical advice. Whether you're qualified to give that advice is another question, but you're literally advising people on their medical situation.
I wouldn't consider it advice as much as it is a statement of opinion. Advice is something you give to improve someone's situation. While breaking up may improve someone's situation, it doesn't actually get down deep into the situation to begin with. Telling people who continue to end up becoming single mothers and paying child support to stop having sex can be vague, advice, sure, but it doesn't get down to the core of the situation or issue. Xena will just end up with another a Darius or Sneako, so did, "Break up with Darius/Sneako." actually help the situation? Not necessarily. It's advice on a very low standard basis. "Stop smoking" is advice, but it lacks depth as to how to stop. "Get therapy" is advice, but it lacks depth as to explain anything further. You can call it advice, but to treat it as if you've found a gold mine is very misleading. You aren't going to find gold by digging an inch. You can advise someone to dig an inch to find gold, but the chances are very unlikely. Dig your inch and say you were a gold miner, sure, but actual gold miners will laugh at you. Just like a relationship expert will laugh at you when they hear you "advising" someone to "Break up." It's so surface level and shallow that it won't give you or anyone results for anything. That's basically what Kelly was trying to say or how I was interpretting it. It's advice in the most shallowest of way. Dig your inch for gold, but don't be surprised when you don't find any gold. Break up based on shallow, "Break up" advise, but don't be surprised when it hasn't actually fixed any of your issues. And don't be surprised when the person who gave you that advice doesn't know how to help you with your other issues. I also wouldn't trust a man who has a fairly rocky and toxic relationship of his own as he's cheated on, lied to Melina, and he's admitted to being an ineffective communicator in relationships. Some would tell Melina to "break up" as well.
@Jake38nine this is actually a fair perspective, id agree its shallow advice. To use another analogy telling a drug addict "stop using" may be 'good advice' as in the correct course of action, but is so shallow as to not be beneficial for the person. The 'core' is to diagnose influences/motivators that drive the behaviour and to prescribe behaviours that mitigate those effects on the person which product the negative outcome. I would say 'correct', shallow advice is better than enabling the negative behaviour, while its not necessarily meaningful or directly beneficial its arguably preferable to reinforcement, probably more relative to a neutral engagement. I would say the further depth he attempts to give in "this appears to be a pursuer/avoidant dynamic, he doesnt want to be with you so stop chasing" and "you are caputlating to polyamory not out of a desire to engage or comfortability with that dynamic, but rather out of presumed obligation that shouldnt exist and is sexist/abusive programming" is closer to the depth required for someone in xena's situation, but id agree its not the most substantive input necessary for inciting a change in behaviour Basically i think tiny's heart is in the right place but hes closer to darius in friendship and perspective and not close enough to/with xena to give a shit, and/or lacks the depth in considering that side's perspective on the issue and is too entrenched in his own bs relationship opinions to be equipped or care and have that depth required, and i would say kelly's approach while understandable is more detrimental than the shallow but well/correctly intended engagement from the omni-cuck
As someone with a severe mental illness, I absolutely hate people who say youre basically being ablest by telling a mentally ill person they probably shouldnt date until they work on themselves. You and you alone are responsible for your mental illness. It doesnt give you a right to treat people however you want. People with that mentality are no where close to getting better
@MrAlwaysOnTen I think it was in the first half. She doesn't use the word ablest like some people do but she was acting appalled that Destiny said maybe people with Bipolar shouldn't date until their mental illness is under control
3:19 I disagree with Kelly's notion here. Waiting until you are mentally and emotionally stable enough to get into a relationship is not "Trying to achieve perfection". Its about reaching a baseline of wellness to the point where whatever issues you have won't hurt your significant other (to what degree may very but still). Someone who has severe trust issues that have not been properly treated or mitigated should not be in an intimate relationship with someone until those things are somewhat dealt with. Not completely fixed but at at least dealt with to the extent where your partner doesn't go through unnecessary grief. If you find someone who can stand it, fine. But I don't think thats a good prescription for most people.
Of course, there is such a thing as being 'ready for a relationship' , getting in a relationship when you aren't is a blatant sign of emotional immaturity, but then again, Kelly has the emotional maturity of a 15 year old, so her takes do not surprise me in the slightest
The idea that people should fix themselves, especially where mental disorder is concerned, is seen as very offensive. In my opinion, you should be able to stabilize yourself without dumping on your partner.
I agree with what you've said, but I think a lot of people feel they need to fix their issues before getting into a relationship, which also isn't the case. Working on issues that result from broken trust or having been abused can be a lifeline process. The issue is that people see relationships as the solution, which they can never be. Your partner can absolutely support you and work through things together with you, but their love for you can't replace your lack of love for yourself. Of course, in this context, both partners seem to need to do a lot of work and I don't think they can support one another when they can't count on each other for stability.
I knew a guy like Darius who lived that kind of life until he was about 55 (likely after as well). He seeked the validation and acceptance of women by the hundreds only to abandon them as soon as there was anything he needed to actually improve upon himself. He was the worst poison to all of those women and many attempted suicide after. He wanted to see himself as a lover who brought happiness to women, but he was the exact opposite.
I remember people feeling really bad for him after listening to him complain about Sushia. But only getting one side of the story. For me, seeing some of his behavior it made it hard to believe he was so innocent/blameless. Now he's exposing that more toxic side. Ironically after going crazy for Grace. What happened to his "I'm a fixer" cope?
It's hard to listen to Darius because he's just looking for Xena to be wrong. He just wants to show everyone she is incorrect and absolve himself of everything
@@mrjtfang2 in the context of the vid she's referring to her friends. I have no information on her personal life or if she doesn't work on herself so rather not make such claims
I feel like all of these people, including Kelly and Xena and everyone else, perpetually act like they are about 17-20 years old. These people are in their late 20s- early 30s. The take of Kelly saying that recommending couples to break up is not helpful is just insane.
Man we need Kelly to betray destiny fast so we can enter an era where the only times we talk abt her is when her terrible kinda malicious advice is made fun of.
Did Xena really just claim to have a 125iq? Lmao I'm dead ☠️ The fact that they have this many problems already when this should be the Honeymoon stage is crazy. Relationship's aren't supposed to be this complicated and draining, especially this early ☠️
Ive met a Mensa certified 135iq guy who was a flat earther. The unfortunate reality is that just because your IQ is high doesn't mean you automatically come to correct conclusions. It may be easier to come to correct conclusions if you are intelligent but on the flip side an intelligent person would be able to argue their incorrect opinions more effectively.
@@kylerBD Yep, a lot of people don't realize that intelligence and IQ alone don't really say a whole lot about a person. That's a big reason why there are differentiations between types of intelligence. Sophists are the perfect example of emotionally intelligent people who often have poor critical thinking skills. On the opposing end you have people who are geniuses but are so poorly socialized and ineffective in conversation that they either come off as overly strange or just pure dumb. Those are two different axes, and both of them can come to very wrong conclusions depending on what we're talking about because drawing those conclusions doesn't come down solely to intelligence of any form
@@deensama7718iq is a massive if not the biggest predictor of outcomes idk why people insist on writing essays about exceptions to the rule as if they don't obviously exist inherently.
@@hijklmnopreaper IMO it seems like she just feels like she has to prove how thick her skin is because she likes this crowd (for whatever personal reasons she has) and wants to be seen as someone who can hang. I guess it's fair to call that self esteem issues, I would feel like that's psychoanalyzing a little bit too much though because to say that definitively assumes that she's not able to find people to hang around IRL who are more like her. I think it's just as likely that she doesn't WANT to hang around people who are more like her. At least in this environment people aren't pulling punches too much if they disagree with you, which is something you almost never see in casual social circles IRL, especially with pretty women. I will say this though, if I were getting shit on as hard as she does by my own friends I'd either take a good hard look at my beliefs and whether they stand up to scrutiny. If I felt I were still justified in them OR if I decided I didn't care enough to examine them, I'd 100% drop my friend group before I'd take near constant shit from them. But I also grew up as a dude where all of my fellow dudes wouldn't hesitate to call me out whether it was justified or not, so I have a pretty strong sense of when I'm right an being unfairly treated versus being correctly called out for being on some bullshit
As a bipolar person for the last almost 20 years. People like Kelly kept me in a almost endless manic state as their spinelessness fed into my delusions and stopped me from seeing reality. After spending enough time with people like destiny who would talk real shit to me I'm not married, full time job, and really happy. Spent a year alone and got my shit together.
I thought it was very ironic that Kelly had this "bipolar people are super fucked forever" mentality without ever stopping to think if advice like hers is why she had these experiences
@@DavidJones-ot8qu Probably moulded into enabler role - unintentionally- by her dad. My whole family became autism appeasers; because the relentless fervour following a mistaken trigger pull was never to meet it's match. You can be autistic & still be an asshole.. or not.
@@thegamingkitchen8429 you do realize even while responsible for your own actions outside actors may have influenced over said actions? If not pls don't bother responding because you obviously already missed my original point.
Yes more content about a fake relationship that's what I wanted. An amateur scripted youtube reality TV series. Destiny is a freaking mind reader. Shout out the amazing cast this season.
19:50 this rant destiny goes on is unbelievably based. Its funny cuz he has an extremely abnormal sex life/marriage but still manages to understand other types of relationships very well
How is it weird for him to be able to understand things he hasn't experienced? Or are you one of those people that think it's only possible to understand things you've gone through personally? (I would also tend to assume that Destiny has had "normal" monogamous relationships in the past. Most people don't start out the way he is)
@@BabudroSun I think it's weird because he does not follow this advice. He is not very reflective is his own personal engagements (has cheated in every relationship after he was cheated on and instead of reflecting on this, decides to try open relationships), he seems to have a lot of personal issues that persist in his relationships (has cheated in his OPEN relationship with his current wife more than once and not very long ago), and he can be super avoidant (has, on stream, said things like "if you start this argument, it's only going to hurt you" as a way to stop Melina from essentially making him uncomfortable by arguing). It's cognitive dissonance, but that can feel weird to most folks.
@@DavidJones-ot8quI can give plenty of based advice I don't follow. It really is not hard. "Most folks" know they should be doing/should not be doing plenty of things. Doesn't change how they behave. Tempted to say everyone, but obviously there are some obnoxiously perfect people out there.
@@BabudroSun So you, like Destiny, struggle with cognitive dissonance. Again, it might be a norm in practice, but most folks would not acknowledge that they do this, thus it seems weird when they see it happen
@@DavidJones-ot8qu I can guarantee there are at least a handful of things you know would be better for you or the people around you that you care about if you did them, and you don't. Maybe you do some of the time, but nobody just acts the way they know they should 100% of the time. You seem to enjoy this grandstanding about calling other people cognitive dissidents.
Telling someone to break up is perfect advice for some people. I convinced a girl to break up with a guy, she was mentally unstable and the guy said out loud he is mainly interested in sex. She was obsessed with him and he wasnt interested in her. Funny thing is we stopped being freinds with her she blocked my wife but she never blocked me
It’s different for everyone. I constantly told my friend to leave guy and she kept going back to him over and over even though I kept telling her to break it off. Some ppl you may not be able to help
@@-godsspeed-9159yes, your emotions in relationships can definitely outweigh logic. Thats why I’m so confused why Destiny is mad at Kelly Jean. She told her different advice because telling Xena to break up with Darius is not working
@@TaylorJones-yc8nq He is mad becuase its not good advice. Logically people should break up even if emotionally they don't want to and to tell them they should keep trying even if one of them is clearly done with the relationship is bad advice.
Early Game Kelly Jean: telling them to break up isn't relationship advice Midgame Kelly Jean: I never said there was anything wrong with your advice Ok
@taylormade9748 yeaaa you say. The way I and everyone else in the world see it you are in a train wreck of a relationship that is never going to end well and the only reason anyone is letting you vent about it is content/amusement. You will stay in this dysfunction until you decide you've had enough but as your friend I'm done talking to you about it because it's just fueling your desire to work things out. I'm here for you in every other aspect about your life but don't ask me for advice about your relationship because you don't listen.
@@taylormade9748validating someone who's having a mental breakdown is silly. If they aren't looking for help, don't sit there and tell them it's going to be ok.
@@anonpogga this dude gets it. Want help in a shit situation, you deserve it. Don't, well get bend and figure out on your own and keep making thr same mistakes over and over. If everyone is giving you the same advice, but you don't want to do it, the problem is you, and you deserve the hole you dug for yourself.
Also amping up someone with bipolar then trying to calm them down is just gonna confuse them more. I literally think Kelly couldn't have done any worse lmao.
Kelly Jean marking herself as too stupid to be in the convo when she asked the difference between E-dating and a long distance relationship. Holy shit.
I think I’m just stupid or not chronically online but I don’t understand the difference between those two either. Is it based on whether it’s solely online or what?
Kelly admits when people take a break to work on themselves, they don't do it. Me: exactly ! That's why we should reinforce it more and stronger so the person DOES take it serious!!!
From what ive gathered, Darius needs to not be in a relationship especially with Xena. And Xena needs a dude who knows how to read passive agressive statements and not take them at face value. Because it seems like Xena can cope with her partner sleeping around, but its the cuddling, mix tape, etc etc which sets her off. Darius just wants to have multiple girlfriends wothlut actually committing because hes still hung up on his ex
Im shocked that Darius is 27, I thought he was a teenager, maybe college aged when I first heard him speak. He seriously thinks and acts like a kid, it kinda makes me sad because he's nearing his 30s and if he doesn't change soon he probably never will.
That's the problem when you don't grow up and stay in that college age mentality, still dress the same, talk the same etc. Darius will be one of those 40 year old men that still wear skinny ass jeans and some skate shoes.
“Telling someone to break up isn’t relationship advice” sounds” sounds like “Telling somebody to quit their job isn’t career advice”. Sometimes the best course of action is to end your current arrangement.
Titty streamer Destiny used to play League with a decade ago. Aggressive enough to argue with on stream and come back later, so she's a permanent staple.
@@TheRedHaze3 I would be super curious to find out if Xena has ever actually been diagnosed. Everything she is and does on stream is more representative of a personality disorder (likely BPD) than bipolar disorder. I personally know a couple of women that opt to say they have BD instead of BPD because it feels less bad and more inherent
I don’t know how Kelly got away with saying her enabling Xena is just her “speaking to certain people certain ways”. The criticism was never the delivery, it was the content of what Kelly was saying. Her problem is that her objective is to make someone feel better rather than to tell someone the correct thing. Destiny told her what the correct advice is and Kelly says “but she won’t listen to that”. The very idea that Kelly’s goal is to find something Xena will listen to and THAT’S the judge of whether she’s done the right thing IS NECESSARILY just trying to tell people what they want to hear. The goal isn’t to find the advice someone will most likely listen to, that’s the entire problem.
Darius is not a gutter tier mind like Kelly Jean. His issue is that he's basically a sentient ballsack that formed into a man whose body is still 70% cum. Until he expels the majority of that over the course of years he will be incapable of normal function.
Why do people think working on yourself is just getting mental help. Working on yourself means changing your habits. You never make your bed? Make your bed. You play games 9hrs a day reduce it and go to the gym. Shower, get a haircut etc. Things that boost your confidence and make you feel good about yourself is working on yourself. Self reflection comes in many different forms. Shit look at Aba he goes dancing. Dancing is great it helps make you feel good it gets you out and makes you interact with people in such away you are comfortable. Shit you think people join bowling teams because their life goal was to be the best bowler. Its the interaction and competition that makes you feel good. Even car meets etc.
PRO TIP: never take a break or get "space" from your partner in a serious relationship. if you have never met in person then you are not in a relationship at all at that point. its irrelevant. because if you think about it, if you are having. problems in your relationship, the problems stem from direct conflicts caused by being in close contact with each other. before you ever met, for example, did you have any problems with this person? No. So by elimination the problems come from directly interacting with each other. Therefore taking space from each other while it may seem like a good idea, it is not. It solves nothing because it cannot solve anything. all it does is cause you to forget the problems that you were having and then when you come back together the same exact arc that ends with you wanting space will repeat itself. If you are going to take some personal space, then the only way to do that is to call it off entirely with the premise that you are going to live your own life and work on your individual goals and leave open the possibility that maybe you will reconnect after evolving as people and will reattempt the relationship.
You're telling ME, that Darius and xena are doomed to fail as a relationship? I am gobsmacked, bamboozled, thrown for a loop even! I NEVER, could have seen this coming
i think he still wants the thorpe girl to peg him
You’re telling me this now for the first time
I am shocked- I mean I am appalled. I've known Darius and Xena for years and they have a fairy-book marriage.
I hold on to hope
BAMBOOZELED
August is so smart. He got me to listen to a 2 hour video of Destiny bashing Kelly Jean
Sucks that it's only 2 hours though
Needed more British slander tbh
I thought I'd be alone with this opinion?! I mean Kelly-Jean is Kelly-Jean but I don't even know why she comes on stream just to get verbally attacked on every single thing she says. I mean, he gets particularly nasty n eveel to her, much more than anyone else?! It's weird? She can't feel good about hanging out with her good friend?? It's not a good look for him.
@AntonioRodriguez-yp2rw why lol
kelly has the unique and powerful talent of taking a situation that’s as bad as it can possibly be and somehow find a way to make it worse
great description of her
What did she do?
Edit: Never mind
@@lampad4549Edit of the year, have another like.
It’s how you can tell she’s genuinely English
It's like she has 22 IQ but is trapped in the mind of someone with 8 IQ 😂😂😂
Kelly's argument in a nutshell is "they won't follow the correct advice, so instead, give them the worst advice so they'll at least feel better". Destiny's right, she'd might as well tell Xena to just die.
No Kelly’s argument is, she’s seen that type a bunch so here’s the best advice I think to give after all these failures. People like Xena need to be broken down and retaught from the beginning because she consistently crashes and burns but does not hit true rock bottom
@@MrAlwaysOnTen
Tell her to join the army.
Or maybe she should do a night shift at a factory for a few weeks.
Maybe she should sleep with the poor & unatractive people for a week!?!!
....
How is flying around & dating would break her!?
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Its like telling an obese person to eat more cakes to break them down.
Well if Kelly is good at anything it's consistently giving the worst advice
You can ABSOLUTELY TELL lately Destiny and EVERYONE ELSE is getting sick of Kelly's outright stupidity.
Thank God
All her contributions to any conversation are negative, so it's about time
We need to hear the Voice one more time.
Kelly is just Pearly things from the future, once she adopts the accent
I find it funny sometimes when she's drunk and spergs out. Other than that I'm good lol
@@NicholasW943no. No we do not.
Man Destiny went hard on Kelly😂 You can tell he was pretty pissed. I see where he’s coming from and his advice was pretty on point.
He’s said in the past that THAT type of person is the type of person he hates the most in the entire world. He wasn’t kidding.
@@SDREHXC'that type of person' being a toxic enabler or some shit??
@@harryseaton7444Yea, pretty much.
@@harryseaton7444People with accents I think
@@harryseaton7444 No. women
“You’re not going to listen to me if I tell you to step down so just jump broski. Yolo.” -Kelly talking someone down from jumping off a building
"Aim for the bushes"
@@NATEDO6G 😂
@@NATEDO6G"hey if there gonna do it anyway I might as well give them advice to suit the situation. The bushes might be a setup because if you are unlucky you might survive"
"Breaking up isnt relationship advice" is on the same tier as "being wrong is lying"
Inversely, telling someone to stop taking their meds is offically not medical advice.
@glitchboard9452 it can be.
@@taurean06031990 it is always medical advice. Whether you're qualified to give that advice is another question, but you're literally advising people on their medical situation.
I wouldn't consider it advice as much as it is a statement of opinion. Advice is something you give to improve someone's situation. While breaking up may improve someone's situation, it doesn't actually get down deep into the situation to begin with. Telling people who continue to end up becoming single mothers and paying child support to stop having sex can be vague, advice, sure, but it doesn't get down to the core of the situation or issue. Xena will just end up with another a Darius or Sneako, so did, "Break up with Darius/Sneako." actually help the situation? Not necessarily. It's advice on a very low standard basis. "Stop smoking" is advice, but it lacks depth as to how to stop. "Get therapy" is advice, but it lacks depth as to explain anything further. You can call it advice, but to treat it as if you've found a gold mine is very misleading. You aren't going to find gold by digging an inch. You can advise someone to dig an inch to find gold, but the chances are very unlikely. Dig your inch and say you were a gold miner, sure, but actual gold miners will laugh at you. Just like a relationship expert will laugh at you when they hear you "advising" someone to "Break up." It's so surface level and shallow that it won't give you or anyone results for anything. That's basically what Kelly was trying to say or how I was interpretting it. It's advice in the most shallowest of way. Dig your inch for gold, but don't be surprised when you don't find any gold. Break up based on shallow, "Break up" advise, but don't be surprised when it hasn't actually fixed any of your issues. And don't be surprised when the person who gave you that advice doesn't know how to help you with your other issues. I also wouldn't trust a man who has a fairly rocky and toxic relationship of his own as he's cheated on, lied to Melina, and he's admitted to being an ineffective communicator in relationships. Some would tell Melina to "break up" as well.
@Jake38nine this is actually a fair perspective, id agree its shallow advice. To use another analogy telling a drug addict "stop using" may be 'good advice' as in the correct course of action, but is so shallow as to not be beneficial for the person. The 'core' is to diagnose influences/motivators that drive the behaviour and to prescribe behaviours that mitigate those effects on the person which product the negative outcome. I would say 'correct', shallow advice is better than enabling the negative behaviour, while its not necessarily meaningful or directly beneficial its arguably preferable to reinforcement, probably more relative to a neutral engagement.
I would say the further depth he attempts to give in "this appears to be a pursuer/avoidant dynamic, he doesnt want to be with you so stop chasing" and "you are caputlating to polyamory not out of a desire to engage or comfortability with that dynamic, but rather out of presumed obligation that shouldnt exist and is sexist/abusive programming" is closer to the depth required for someone in xena's situation, but id agree its not the most substantive input necessary for inciting a change in behaviour
Basically i think tiny's heart is in the right place but hes closer to darius in friendship and perspective and not close enough to/with xena to give a shit, and/or lacks the depth in considering that side's perspective on the issue and is too entrenched in his own bs relationship opinions to be equipped or care and have that depth required, and i would say kelly's approach while understandable is more detrimental than the shallow but well/correctly intended engagement from the omni-cuck
"You are the best when nobody's in the room, but you are the worst when everybody's here" gd Rele is so based
Destiny’s pure sarcasm and annoyance towards Kelly is pure GOLD.
As someone with a severe mental illness, I absolutely hate people who say youre basically being ablest by telling a mentally ill person they probably shouldnt date until they work on themselves. You and you alone are responsible for your mental illness. It doesnt give you a right to treat people however you want. People with that mentality are no where close to getting better
Damn when was that said?
@MrAlwaysOnTen I think it was in the first half. She doesn't use the word ablest like some people do but she was acting appalled that Destiny said maybe people with Bipolar shouldn't date until their mental illness is under control
'Sever mental illness' just get over it😊
@tyerannical3650 thank you, it worked
3:19 I disagree with Kelly's notion here. Waiting until you are mentally and emotionally stable enough to get into a relationship is not "Trying to achieve perfection". Its about reaching a baseline of wellness to the point where whatever issues you have won't hurt your significant other (to what degree may very but still). Someone who has severe trust issues that have not been properly treated or mitigated should not be in an intimate relationship with someone until those things are somewhat dealt with. Not completely fixed but at at least dealt with to the extent where your partner doesn't go through unnecessary grief. If you find someone who can stand it, fine. But I don't think thats a good prescription for most people.
Of course, there is such a thing as being 'ready for a relationship' , getting in a relationship when you aren't is a blatant sign of emotional immaturity, but then again, Kelly has the emotional maturity of a 15 year old, so her takes do not surprise me in the slightest
It took you 3 minutes to disagree with kelly ?
The idea that people should fix themselves, especially where mental disorder is concerned, is seen as very offensive.
In my opinion, you should be able to stabilize yourself without dumping on your partner.
I agree with what you've said, but I think a lot of people feel they need to fix their issues before getting into a relationship, which also isn't the case. Working on issues that result from broken trust or having been abused can be a lifeline process. The issue is that people see relationships as the solution, which they can never be. Your partner can absolutely support you and work through things together with you, but their love for you can't replace your lack of love for yourself.
Of course, in this context, both partners seem to need to do a lot of work and I don't think they can support one another when they can't count on each other for stability.
[every single timestamp you can write down] I disagree with Kelly here.
Kelly stumbles through another conversation
Stumbles? Bitch broke her limbs and rolled off a cliff edge.....
Thank God Kelly is not a therapist or a relationship council.
What??!!? I've been paying her for therapy for two years
Xena just migrates from one fuckboy to another
the great fuckboy migration of the 2020's. many died, many more wished they were dead...
Yep😂
Kelly should just turn her hardcore minecraft run into a speedrun. "Huuurrr nothing matters, most things fail, keep abusing each other, huurrrrr."
I knew a guy like Darius who lived that kind of life until he was about 55 (likely after as well). He seeked the validation and acceptance of women by the hundreds only to abandon them as soon as there was anything he needed to actually improve upon himself. He was the worst poison to all of those women and many attempted suicide after. He wanted to see himself as a lover who brought happiness to women, but he was the exact opposite.
That’s what Tree said to him , that his mission in life was to be an Fboy , now that l read your comment l see what she meant
@@supernova7848I believe you, but I love tree so much that I just want to see more of her can you please tell me when or where tree said this?
And I can’t even get a text back lol
Classic narcissist
I remember people feeling really bad for him after listening to him complain about Sushia. But only getting one side of the story. For me, seeing some of his behavior it made it hard to believe he was so innocent/blameless. Now he's exposing that more toxic side. Ironically after going crazy for Grace. What happened to his "I'm a fixer" cope?
It's hard to listen to Darius because he's just looking for Xena to be wrong. He just wants to show everyone she is incorrect and absolve himself of everything
Kelly Jean opening up with possibly the dumbest take I’ve heard this month
Correction: the dumbest take you've heard so far! She keeps talking.
hearing ahrelly just laugh maniacally while saying "aint no way" is too good
That was a very fake sounding laugh though.
A theatrical laugh
@@Observetteyou’re a fake sounding laugh
@@Observetteright. I cringed
@@gleekthemonkey4570gottem
Kelly speed run to use imaginary alternative definitions of words
World record holder, bless her
Max might have her beat tbh
Im so mad i sat and listened to this whole thing. Im disgusted at myself
I can't believe I just heard that telling someone to break up isn't relationship advice.
"No one ever works on themselves" seems like a self-tell
It is
Not really, she's referring to her past experience with Frei D's and loved ones, not hersslf
@@mr.miscellaneous1079 Two things can be true at the same time-that she's talking about one thing, but that she fits the bill too.
@@mrjtfang2 in the context of the vid she's referring to her friends. I have no information on her personal life or if she doesn't work on herself so rather not make such claims
@@mr.miscellaneous1079 You have no context or information regarding her friends either, but you can literally actually witness Kelly
Kellys offended at being called spineless but then in the same breath doesn’t want to say what she thinks of darius because he’s in the same room wtf
Good catch
Fr like would you rather talk behind his back? Like what
The Kelly Jean cycle:
- Make outrageous statement
- Back off to the most obvious statement ever
- Make half-sarcastic comment when called out on it
And do so as smugly as possible with a horrendously annoying accent
Nailed it perfectly
God you all sound so single
@@CrabLap-xb8cm Is this Kelly alt?
@@RanEncounter No, don't you get it, you have to be in a relationship to find kelly jean annoying
Bro if you're 6 weeks into a relationship and already contemplating taking a break, just end it like tf lol
The goal for Darius tho is to string as long as he can as if he’s taking her serious
Why does Kelly act like she doesn't want to be here, but she's always here??? It's becoming an annoying aesthetic and kinda cringe.
Rele’s goofster laugh and input is perfect. Why the fuq is he not a daily orbiter
I find it so odd that he's somewhat attached at the hip to Darius, because yeah Ahrelevant is a top-tier orbiter.
If Darius and Xena can't make it how are the rest of us supposed to even go on living???? There is no hope.
We fucked
#couplegoals #loveamericanstyle
Destiny starting to feel like the kindergarden teacher during circle time when he's telling these people how relationships work.
well he is significantly older than them
@@gavinklein4998bruh Darius and Xena are like 28
@@pinec0ne no way
Right in my feeeeed
This ended alot faster than I thought
finally the darius and xena arc is over
You have too much faith
You think people this toxic just stop? I give this at least 10 years before they actually stop speaking to each other
I don't think them ending the relationship ends them as orbiters
@@romnesia7729 nah not ten year but until whenever they find someone else. This is the only way this dynamics ever end.
I feel like all of these people, including Kelly and Xena and everyone else, perpetually act like they are about 17-20 years old. These people are in their late 20s- early 30s.
The take of Kelly saying that recommending couples to break up is not helpful is just insane.
22:41 the most OUT OF POCKET analogy
Man we need Kelly to betray destiny fast so we can enter an era where the only times we talk abt her is when her terrible kinda malicious advice is made fun of.
Did Xena really just claim to have a 125iq? Lmao I'm dead ☠️
The fact that they have this many problems already when this should be the Honeymoon stage is crazy. Relationship's aren't supposed to be this complicated and draining, especially this early ☠️
She said she took an online iq test and scored a 116 in one of the previous streams 😂. The fact that she even thinks those are legit is pretty funny
Ive met a Mensa certified 135iq guy who was a flat earther. The unfortunate reality is that just because your IQ is high doesn't mean you automatically come to correct conclusions. It may be easier to come to correct conclusions if you are intelligent but on the flip side an intelligent person would be able to argue their incorrect opinions more effectively.
@@kylerBD Yep, a lot of people don't realize that intelligence and IQ alone don't really say a whole lot about a person. That's a big reason why there are differentiations between types of intelligence. Sophists are the perfect example of emotionally intelligent people who often have poor critical thinking skills. On the opposing end you have people who are geniuses but are so poorly socialized and ineffective in conversation that they either come off as overly strange or just pure dumb. Those are two different axes, and both of them can come to very wrong conclusions depending on what we're talking about because drawing those conclusions doesn't come down solely to intelligence of any form
A frog has an iq of 12..
@@deensama7718iq is a massive if not the biggest predictor of outcomes idk why people insist on writing essays about exceptions to the rule as if they don't obviously exist inherently.
The silence from Darius after Destiny summed up the situation was just oooof 😂
And then him leaving the call and Destiny just covering his mouth with his hand like "Oh no..." lmao
I cannot understand how kelly has made it this far in life with the thought process she has.
Pretty people privilege.
if i speak, i'm in big trouble
@@hijklmnopreaper IMO it seems like she just feels like she has to prove how thick her skin is because she likes this crowd (for whatever personal reasons she has) and wants to be seen as someone who can hang. I guess it's fair to call that self esteem issues, I would feel like that's psychoanalyzing a little bit too much though because to say that definitively assumes that she's not able to find people to hang around IRL who are more like her. I think it's just as likely that she doesn't WANT to hang around people who are more like her. At least in this environment people aren't pulling punches too much if they disagree with you, which is something you almost never see in casual social circles IRL, especially with pretty women.
I will say this though, if I were getting shit on as hard as she does by my own friends I'd either take a good hard look at my beliefs and whether they stand up to scrutiny. If I felt I were still justified in them OR if I decided I didn't care enough to examine them, I'd 100% drop my friend group before I'd take near constant shit from them. But I also grew up as a dude where all of my fellow dudes wouldn't hesitate to call me out whether it was justified or not, so I have a pretty strong sense of when I'm right an being unfairly treated versus being correctly called out for being on some bullshit
Believe it or not, she’s still probably smarter than your average human
she’s actually the most normal amongst them and that makes her standout as weird lol
Guys, Kellys dads wife is bipolar. Shes clearly an expert
Also she has some friends who date, so...
Listen to the Master.
Ethan h3h3 is a drunken master, Kelly Jean is the opposite, but still drunk.
Kelly faked a sexual assault in her past relationship and thinks shes qualified to give others advice? Absolutely incredible.
holy shit did she? man shes even more insufferable when she gives out advice. i hate people who do that
Woah really? Video?
@@Winn3r__ Google HenryG allegations
Uhh proof?
@@MrAlwaysOnTen HenryG responded to it with far more evidence
Destiny says this, but he enables Kelly to use the voice. No human mind can deal with that power
Yooo rele is back, best orbiter by far.
Rele, Tree and Waba are proof that Destiny loves black people
Thank you, the last 5 minutes of this should be made into a seperate rant vid I feel!
Damn i knew this was gonna happen, good luck to them both
You and everybody else with eyes:P
Kelly Jean is nearly a Lav tier of horrible orbiter that everyone hates.
I kind of like her lol. She’s frustratingly stupid but I think her intentions are in the right place.
The smugness is insufferable but it's a far cry from lav
She's really not that bad lmao
Absolutely nowhere near
@@limitedhangoutlivethe real problem is she'll say something stupid, just push back, and fight tooth and nail to defend it.
Not following Kelly in this conversation 🤨 Darius reckless lifestyle is enflaming Xena's issues, why would you want to keep it going?
He spun Kelly Jean around so fast
As a bipolar person for the last almost 20 years. People like Kelly kept me in a almost endless manic state as their spinelessness fed into my delusions and stopped me from seeing reality. After spending enough time with people like destiny who would talk real shit to me I'm not married, full time job, and really happy. Spent a year alone and got my shit together.
I thought it was very ironic that Kelly had this "bipolar people are super fucked forever" mentality without ever stopping to think if advice like hers is why she had these experiences
@@DavidJones-ot8qu Probably moulded into enabler role - unintentionally- by her dad.
My whole family became autism appeasers;
because the relentless fervour following a mistaken trigger pull was never to meet it's match.
You can be autistic & still be an asshole.. or not.
You are responsible for your own actions
@@thegamingkitchen8429 you do realize even while responsible for your own actions outside actors may have influenced over said actions? If not pls don't bother responding because you obviously already missed my original point.
What an amazingly dumb response lmao@@thegamingkitchen8429
Yes more content about a fake relationship that's what I wanted. An amateur scripted youtube reality TV series. Destiny is a freaking mind reader. Shout out the amazing cast this season.
listening to aan orbiter argument/debate on acid would be a trip and a half
Which would be the trip and which would be the half?
no no, like you get an extra half of a trip@@nicematerial
I think the Adderall is making steve spicy. He wouldn't let kelly slide by, he was holding her accountable to every word 😂
I get nervous every time Kelly becomes quiet because I know she will come back roaring into the mic any second after that.
I honestly can’t wait until these people fade back into obscurity.
Still have no clew who Kelly Jean is and don't understand why Destiny surrounds himself with these people.
Content
She’s almost as annoying as Zherka.
Clew
To the surprise of absolutely no one
19:50 this rant destiny goes on is unbelievably based. Its funny cuz he has an extremely abnormal sex life/marriage but still manages to understand other types of relationships very well
How is it weird for him to be able to understand things he hasn't experienced?
Or are you one of those people that think it's only possible to understand things you've gone through personally?
(I would also tend to assume that Destiny has had "normal" monogamous relationships in the past. Most people don't start out the way he is)
@@BabudroSun I think it's weird because he does not follow this advice. He is not very reflective is his own personal engagements (has cheated in every relationship after he was cheated on and instead of reflecting on this, decides to try open relationships), he seems to have a lot of personal issues that persist in his relationships (has cheated in his OPEN relationship with his current wife more than once and not very long ago), and he can be super avoidant (has, on stream, said things like "if you start this argument, it's only going to hurt you" as a way to stop Melina from essentially making him uncomfortable by arguing). It's cognitive dissonance, but that can feel weird to most folks.
@@DavidJones-ot8quI can give plenty of based advice I don't follow. It really is not hard.
"Most folks" know they should be doing/should not be doing plenty of things. Doesn't change how they behave.
Tempted to say everyone, but obviously there are some obnoxiously perfect people out there.
@@BabudroSun So you, like Destiny, struggle with cognitive dissonance. Again, it might be a norm in practice, but most folks would not acknowledge that they do this, thus it seems weird when they see it happen
@@DavidJones-ot8qu I can guarantee there are at least a handful of things you know would be better for you or the people around you that you care about if you did them, and you don't. Maybe you do some of the time, but nobody just acts the way they know they should 100% of the time.
You seem to enjoy this grandstanding about calling other people cognitive dissidents.
I wonder if Darius would consider a 3way with Grace and her dad if it gave him a chance to taste Grace’s grace
Let's be real, he would be tasting sloppy seconds 😂
@@electron6825lol😅😅😅
I’m convinced Destiny keeps orbiters like Kelly around to just to trigger us
I sat through a 2 hour conversation about people i know nothing about
Kelly: Either way I lose.
It's not about you, Kelly! It's not a game.
Kelly Jean literally makes everything worse. She gives SABOTAGE advice. Advice that actually hurts you.
Telling someone to break up is perfect advice for some people. I convinced a girl to break up with a guy, she was mentally unstable and the guy said out loud he is mainly interested in sex. She was obsessed with him and he wasnt interested in her. Funny thing is we stopped being freinds with her she blocked my wife but she never blocked me
It’s different for everyone. I constantly told my friend to leave guy and she kept going back to him over and over even though I kept telling her to break it off. Some ppl you may not be able to help
@@taylormade9748I agree, people in bad relationships alot of the time make no sense because their emotions are so mixed or influenced by something.
@@-godsspeed-9159yes, your emotions in relationships can definitely outweigh logic. Thats why I’m so confused why Destiny is mad at Kelly Jean. She told her different advice because telling Xena to break up with Darius is not working
@@TaylorJones-yc8nq nah I think that’s mainly a you and other girls thing
@@TaylorJones-yc8nq He is mad becuase its not good advice. Logically people should break up even if emotionally they don't want to and to tell them they should keep trying even if one of them is clearly done with the relationship is bad advice.
I’ve just entered a relationship with someone who suffers from BPD And I wish y’all had this conversation before now. This actually helped me
Early Game Kelly Jean: telling them to break up isn't relationship advice
Midgame Kelly Jean: I never said there was anything wrong with your advice
Ok
I read the title as "Destiny Gets Triggered. Tells Xena The Truth About Dinosaurs" and I never clicked so fast in my life.
Idk if Kelly even knows what's happening, she just loves hearing herself talk.
She doesn't know what's happening but she doesn't like hearing herself talk
Kelly Jean might actually always have the worst takes.
How? Why keep telling someone to break up and they won’t break up? You gotta try something else
@taylormade9748 yeaaa you say. The way I and everyone else in the world see it you are in a train wreck of a relationship that is never going to end well and the only reason anyone is letting you vent about it is content/amusement. You will stay in this dysfunction until you decide you've had enough but as your friend I'm done talking to you about it because it's just fueling your desire to work things out. I'm here for you in every other aspect about your life but don't ask me for advice about your relationship because you don't listen.
@@taylormade9748validating someone who's having a mental breakdown is silly. If they aren't looking for help, don't sit there and tell them it's going to be ok.
@@anonpogga this dude gets it. Want help in a shit situation, you deserve it. Don't, well get bend and figure out on your own and keep making thr same mistakes over and over.
If everyone is giving you the same advice, but you don't want to do it, the problem is you, and you deserve the hole you dug for yourself.
Also amping up someone with bipolar then trying to calm them down is just gonna confuse them more. I literally think Kelly couldn't have done any worse lmao.
for a while I thought Kelly Jean would be different but it turns out she's just another remedial
It sounds to me like Darius should move on and let Xena figure her own shit out like Destiny suggests over and over
so when does the high school drama arc end? I want the politics arc already.
Kelly sounds like alcoholic Bayonetta
Kelly Jean marking herself as too stupid to be in the convo when she asked the difference between E-dating and a long distance relationship. Holy shit.
I think I’m just stupid or not chronically online but I don’t understand the difference between those two either. Is it based on whether it’s solely online or what?
Ain't no way
Kelly admits when people take a break to work on themselves, they don't do it.
Me: exactly ! That's why we should reinforce it more and stronger so the person DOES take it serious!!!
10 minutes in and I just noticed Destiny is watching that Wack100 video when he fights those white dudes lol
From what ive gathered, Darius needs to not be in a relationship especially with Xena. And Xena needs a dude who knows how to read passive agressive statements and not take them at face value. Because it seems like Xena can cope with her partner sleeping around, but its the cuddling, mix tape, etc etc which sets her off. Darius just wants to have multiple girlfriends wothlut actually committing because hes still hung up on his ex
Im shocked that Darius is 27, I thought he was a teenager, maybe college aged when I first heard him speak. He seriously thinks and acts like a kid, it kinda makes me sad because he's nearing his 30s and if he doesn't change soon he probably never will.
That's the problem when you don't grow up and stay in that college age mentality, still dress the same, talk the same etc.
Darius will be one of those 40 year old men that still wear skinny ass jeans and some skate shoes.
“Telling someone to break up isn’t relationship advice” sounds” sounds like “Telling somebody to quit their job isn’t career advice”. Sometimes the best course of action is to end your current arrangement.
"I try not to say shit that's just unhelpful" is the biggest fib I've ever heard
Whoa. Good call in the intro.
I don't know the lore about her at all, but what's the deal with Kelly? She sounds drunk every time she's on stream. What's her story?
I’m curious too
Titty streamer Destiny used to play League with a decade ago. Aggressive enough to argue with on stream and come back later, so she's a permanent staple.
Shes british
she faked being sexually assaulted and is adamant to this day about the validity of those claims. thats all you need to know about her
Who could’ve possibly seen this coming! Not me!
Destiny: she is not type 1, she only stabed the guy 3 times
Me: hahah he's making a joke
Bpd girl: ACTUALLY I ONLY STABED HIM ONE TIME
I think BPD is the acronym for Borderline Personality Disorder.
There's another one for bipolar.
@@TheRedHaze3 pretty sure BD is bipolar
@@TheRedHaze3 I would be super curious to find out if Xena has ever actually been diagnosed. Everything she is and does on stream is more representative of a personality disorder (likely BPD) than bipolar disorder. I personally know a couple of women that opt to say they have BD instead of BPD because it feels less bad and more inherent
I don’t know how Kelly got away with saying her enabling Xena is just her “speaking to certain people certain ways”. The criticism was never the delivery, it was the content of what Kelly was saying.
Her problem is that her objective is to make someone feel better rather than to tell someone the correct thing. Destiny told her what the correct advice is and Kelly says “but she won’t listen to that”.
The very idea that Kelly’s goal is to find something Xena will listen to and THAT’S the judge of whether she’s done the right thing IS NECESSARILY just trying to tell people what they want to hear.
The goal isn’t to find the advice someone will most likely listen to, that’s the entire problem.
Aint no way kelly isn't a psi op to give destiny someone to argue with during stream downtimes. She got that room temperature iq.
If the room is an igloo
@@shortymccutlery8919 sooooooo trueee
You got room temperature iq too
Al-Anon has a term for these, an enabler.
Main issue with theese two is that their pushing 30 💀
Wow I am so surprised their relationship is failing they seem like very rational sane human beings with no character flaws what so ever
I feel like I'm losing IQ points listening to this conversation, particularly when Darius, Xena or Kelly Jean say something.
Darius is not a gutter tier mind like Kelly Jean. His issue is that he's basically a sentient ballsack that formed into a man whose body is still 70% cum. Until he expels the majority of that over the course of years he will be incapable of normal function.
Kelly acts exactly like an overconfident medical student.
Apparently Xena was exposing simps on her live, looks like now she’s gonna need them for a little bit
Don’t get dudes simping a girl who has multiple sex tapes flying around and is clearly disturbed…there are other stable women around
She makes most of her money dancing not online
@@MrWingiiilink?
@@GoChiefs1288Google it, not hard to find
@@MrWingiiisome dudes dont want stable women
Why do people think working on yourself is just getting mental help. Working on yourself means changing your habits. You never make your bed? Make your bed. You play games 9hrs a day reduce it and go to the gym. Shower, get a haircut etc. Things that boost your confidence and make you feel good about yourself is working on yourself. Self reflection comes in many different forms. Shit look at Aba he goes dancing. Dancing is great it helps make you feel good it gets you out and makes you interact with people in such away you are comfortable. Shit you think people join bowling teams because their life goal was to be the best bowler. Its the interaction and competition that makes you feel good. Even car meets etc.
Why does the British woman sound like a grouchy granny that just wants to go back to bed 😅
They hooked up, Xena caught feelings. Darius wants to dump and run but is afraid Xena will go crazy on him.
PRO TIP: never take a break or get "space" from your partner in a serious relationship. if you have never met in person then you are not in a relationship at all at that point. its irrelevant. because if you think about it, if you are having. problems in your relationship, the problems stem from direct conflicts caused by being in close contact with each other. before you ever met, for example, did you have any problems with this person? No. So by elimination the problems come from directly interacting with each other. Therefore taking space from each other while it may seem like a good idea, it is not. It solves nothing because it cannot solve anything. all it does is cause you to forget the problems that you were having and then when you come back together the same exact arc that ends with you wanting space will repeat itself. If you are going to take some personal space, then the only way to do that is to call it off entirely with the premise that you are going to live your own life and work on your individual goals and leave open the possibility that maybe you will reconnect after evolving as people and will reattempt the relationship.
AINTNOWAY