People ask me why I drive so far to go to a computer store. (It's only 45 minutes away to get to the Cambridge, MA store for me.) It's because the deals are great, but also if we want these places to exist, we have a duty to shop at them. Sure, I can buy all of the same stuff online, but going to a brick and morter location and getting to see everything (especially important for picking a case, or laptop, and most importantly a monitor) is better. The biggest downside? I'll have a shopping list of like $200 in things I want, and then I finally leave with like $1,000 worth the stuff like 30 minutes later. As a tech hoarder, that store is very dangerous to me... but I still continue going. I need my fix! 🤣
@@first-last557 keep the crime down a bit more, and they might. 😁👍 I doubt they want the place looted every day and shat in by whatever random homeless drug addicts drift in there. 🤣
@sbrazenor2 the Cambridge store is my closest store too...but I live 3.5 hours away in Maine....but I still make the journey there 2 or 3 times a year (usually whenever I'm going to Fenway for a Sox game). Definitely worth the trip everytime!
It is Haiku he shows, a modern system inspired by Be. Be itself will not run on anything later than pentium iii, and will not allow more than 1Gb of RAM. There will also be complications running modern compilers on it, I think it was tied to gcc 2.95 (ancient). I have a holiday in a few weeks and have collected a dual 440BX motherboard, ram, chips and ssd to have a shot at a build, all from ebay. An IDE to SSD interface should allow a faster experience than the system had 25 years ago. Peripheral cards that used to be expensive are cheap on ebay also - intel chipset network cards, video cards.
Also record a video on your phone post it to the internet and view the video on your watch with wireless earbuds. Probably more absurd things if you told people in the 90s
It's my local MicroCenter, too! St. Davids, PA! The same Microcenter where a bit over a year ago I managed to basically win the lottery and snag an RTX 4090 Founders Edition. Thought i'd "missed out" on getting a PNY 4090 because I was there looking at 3D printer filament and thought to myself "Yeah right... what are the odds they'd have a 4090 in stock today?". Literally 30 seconds after I asked that, someone else asked, and they're like "Yep, we have one last PNY brand card in stock". So I was all kinds of pissed off at myself.... went up to another employee, asked if there was any chance they might have another 4090, to which I was told that the last one was just purchased. Fast forward maybe 10-15 minutes, I picked out my filament that i wanted to get (wanted.... not NEEDED.... can't help but go there and buy at LEAST 2 spools), and was finally telling myself "Ok, time to get out of here before I find other stuff to spend money on". As I walk away from the filament area, the employee walks up to me with a very generic looking, though familiar, brown box, and says "Hey.... according to my manager, there's an RTX 4090 Founder card in here. If you want it, it's yours". Obviously they opened the box just to double check that it WAS a 4090 FE. Other employees looked at it, puzzled they got a FE when only Best Buy gets them. Another customer walked over and told them he wanted it and they're like "Sorry, already claimed". I even took the generic brown box when I bought it, A) because it's a rather overengineered generic brown box, and B) didn't want to be walking around ANYWHERE in the semi-Philly area with a blatantly obvious high-end GPU box in the middle of the GPU shortage. And on a funny note.... as is typical with MicroCenter (and most other retailers), I got at least one e-mail asking me to leave a review of my recent purchase.... of the 4090 FE...... the card that, to this day, is nowhere on their website (for obvious reasons). They wanted me to leave a review, that would never be seen by anybody, for a card that they don't sell. The even MORE funny part.... I got 2 emails earlier this month, saying I could make use of "an exclusive Trade-In Program for working GPUs purchased at Micro Center, ensuring you get same-day value for your graphics card." That trade in value? $699.95! I could trade in my GPU, in a period where there isn't any other GPU more powerful than it, for probably a little more than half of what I could get for it if I were to just throw it on eBay right now. NICE! lol
Flip the radiator, it's mounted upside down which is not ideal. It will be noisier and if there's air bubbles it can damage or destroy the pump. Your pump is at the top of the loop with the radiator's current orientation and you never want that, and it'll allow you to mount your pump in the correct orientation rather than sideways.
That's only true if the top part of the radiator is lower than the pump, which is not the case there and this is the recommended orientation for front install. If he used the XL version of the North, he would've mounted the AIO at the top instead.
@@jondonnelly3That's one store for the whole UK though... and it's in Stoke-on-Trent, the butt of every joke about places in the UK that are terrible. We used to have a quite similar shop to Micro Center, called Maplin - it sold PC components, cases, etc. It also sold just electronics components for projects, you could go in and buy a single resistor or a bag of 555 timers or anything else. Unfortunately over time it became less about that and more just mass-market gadgets and then the online retailers just blew it out of the water on pricing. A real shame because being able to get PC parts or electronic components same-day, within the hour if you lived near enough, was fantastic. PC World used to also be pretty good in terms of selection but now it's just an area in a general electronics and appliances retailer rather than a full standalone store, and it just doesn't have the stock variety that it used to.
There are two things I want in this world:- 1) Physical stores where I can buy anything I want whenever I want it. No online waiting time. 2) Independently owned shops that have specific types of stock in each one. I don't want everything to be an oversized general store that only has the same handful of products from each category in them. Do you know how annoying it to need something and your only options are Sainsbury's, Kaufland, Alza and Coles, no matter which direction you go? It's so bloody refreshing to see a TH-cam channel be sponsored by an actual shop, not a subscription or website.
used to have these in the 90 and early 2000s, then everyone wanted online convenience cheaper prices and global reach... and here we are... There is ZERO places like this where I live now, used to have several 20-30 years ago... yeah progress.
What we really need is a USB interface to an Arduino based LED controller (eg. WS2812/5 protocol). A small polling based app that reads CPU usage every 1/60 sec and lights up the LED’s accordingly, and presto, BlinkenLights. A Haiku dev can get this done in a day. For my employer I’ve done something similar (RS232 port), but for mass market appeal you need USB. A good option would be to 3D print a mini case with LED lamps, say 8 strips (like the good old HiFi spectrum analysers) and sell this to retro enthuisiasts.
You know what would be really cool, though? If Haiku supported the modern POWER architecture and the Talos II and Blackbird motherboards. Then you could build a modern IBM POWER-based BeBox. The original was PowerPC-based, right? Much more analogous :) I love the case design. That BeOS badge on the front is fricken perfect, and the RGB along the sides on the front is brilliant.
Are you in the mod community, Xbox too, you should be able to run Unix on them original Power PC apps, not sure if people need that, why should you run them on Power PC ?
@@lucasremNot really, but I like to tinker. I did a CPU upgrade on a Power Mac G5 to make a dual 2.5 GHz out of a dual 2.0 GHz using one of the CPU modules out of a dead quad G5, for instance. I once put the guts of a beige G3 tower Mac into an ATX case too. Just yesterday, I installed Fedora Asahi Linux onto a spare M1 Mac mini :) I'm just a lone wolf enthusiast.
Holy shit I legit had the same idea. Honestly there's been so little TH-cam attention on those desktop POWER machines. When I was in high school one of my dream PCs was the original unsuccessful Talos 1. That was back when I thought I'd become a computer engineer or programmer. Nowadays I'd just want one for the sheer fact it's an enterprise-grade architecture in desktop form.
I wish Micro Center would put a store closer to me! My closest one is in Baltimore, but i've stopped at the St. Davids store a few times when out that way to see my kids. Love that place. Oh wait... maybe they shouldn't put a store closer, then i'd be broke!
I love Micro Center, but does anyone else remember their store #1 before they became a "big box" store? It was really something special that I have fond memories of. It was in a two-story building and was set up kinda as if each department was its own store in a small shopping mall. Each department had their own registers, so you could check out from any of them, but it literally felt like you were going into a mall with each store dedicated to something computer or electronics related. It was just missing a food court.
Fun facts. Micro Center is an American computer department store founded in Columbus, Ohio in 1979 by two former Radio Shack employees. The first Micro Center store was a 900 sq ft (84 m2). storefront located in the Lane Avenue Shopping Center in Upper Arlington, Ohio. There are 22 Micro Center stores nationwide in California, Colorado, Georgia, Illinois, Kansas, Massachusetts, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas, and Virginia.Micro Center is one of the companies of Micro Electronics, Inc., a privately held corporation headquartered in Hilliard, Ohio in suburban Columbus. Besides selling the name brand products of a multitude of manufacturers, Micro Center also sells products under various of its own brand names. These brand names include PowerSpec, WinBook, and IPSG. As well, their Redemtech division sells used and surplus computing equipment through their stores. Micro Center's slogan (appearing on the store's signage outside the stores) has, in later years, come to be "Micro Center: The Ultimate Computer Store".
@@NoMore12345-z I've been at their corporate location for interviews a couple of times. I was overqualified both times, but I still think it would be a cool place to work doing something similar to what I do now.
I went to Micro Center last week and they were still selling internal narrow SCSI cables! Since I had just had the need for one of those recently, I picked one up. And yes, they still sell all the old connectivity in the USB aisle.
lol pretty sure when the Microcenter opened up here in Indy there was a big sign that said "please don't shoot your youtube/tiktok/whatever videos in here"
He did ask for permission, which turned into a sponsorship. Also, I think when they first opened they were limiting videos to the tech influencers to the people who they'd brought in to open the store. Don't know about now, and my local (Dallas) MicroCenter doesn't have any signs
I really love your dedication to HAIKU! I'm also a person who is deeply fascinated by HAIKU and all the what if's this project offers. I use Fedora for work which I love so much, but for some reason, HAIKU just hits different...
Don't use ESD bags to build stuff on, the outside of an ESD bag is very conductive. Use the cardboard box or a ESD safe mat. Part of my yearly training at work is to make sure I never use an ESD bag as a ESD safe mat.
That is one cool project! I still have my original BeBox (Dual PPC 66 MHz). It still works after almost 30 years, and I run it every now and then - purely for nostalgia! BTW, the LED strips on the sides reflect the activities of the processors.
As someone who recently bought an old 2000s workstation at a garage sale for running Haiku, i can sympathize with the excitement of the system unleashed. It kinda sorta runs on a netbook and small form factor notebooks, but its only when its in a desktop PC that it shines.
I love Micro Center. I built most of my systems from their parts (there was a brief period in the late 90s/early 2000s where I bought from a small local chain). I would also buy parts/upgrades through them or Fry's. When one of the Fry's closed (online hurt lots of brick and mortar), I started getting worried about the other Fry's and Micro Center. And when the other Fry's went down the drain and the Pandemic hit, I figured it would be a matter of time for Micro Center to close, too But they're doing fine. They are usually very busy on the weekends and sometimes weeknights. So, yay!
Yes, here in Silicon Valley, the one MicroCenter closed over a decade ago, and since Fry's Electroncs when under, it's just been my local cramped CentralComputer to browse
The computer build looks pretty nice, too bad there was no way to add a Geek Port to the machine......perhaps someday in the future, yes? Really looking forward to the Charlotte store opening, it'll be nice to actually have a physical place where I can get my hands on electronic components without having to order online.
You are very lucky to have a Micro Center nearby. Right now the closest one to us is about an hour away but man, it's awesome. No biggie though, in the old days I had to drive an hour to get to CompUSA, so I'm used to it.😃
I hope MicroCenter at some point branches out to Sweden, as that's where I live. And I love the idea of a "supermarket of computer parts", which both MediaMarkt and Elgiganten not really are. And recently the MediaMarkt in Kalmar has been replaced with another shop I've never heard of before.
Love your Haiku videos! I've been a BeOS / Haiku user since Release 3, and for a time it was my daily driver. Only one point to comment: 100MB is OK for your EFI boot partition but, if you want to install -lets say- five different operating systems on the same disk, you will need at least a 512MB-1GB one to acomodate the different boot loaders, some of them may be way bigger than the BeOS one! 🤓
I love Micro Center. I live in Chicago, about a 30-minute drive from one. (We have two in the Chicago metro area.) As far as I know, it's the last remaining brick-and-mortar computer supermarket chain left standing. We have no shortage of small computer stores in the area, but all of the ones I know of mainly sell parts for gaming enthusiasts. Micro Center, on the other hand, is for everybody. I always get great service there, and it's not unusual for them to beat online prices. It's my favorite toy store!
From the thumbnail i didn't expect this machine to look good for some reason. But it does look really nice! hopefully we will see haiku eventually take advantage of that cpu fully.
He’s running the x64 build of Haiku! It isn’t backwards compatible but its a fully modern operating system. It shows how smooth it runs on modern hardware. 😊
When demoing official Minecraft builds can I convince you to hit F3 to show the debug stats in game? Even just flash it for a moment would get me what I'm asking for. I just like seeing what is reported for the setup and if that is on screen and I can pause the video to read, that would give me all kinds of fun info. And just to have it said I did go to Madison Heights Micro Center to get an Evolve 3 to mess with after your recent video.
Love this. Don't live anywhere near a MicroCenter. However, waiting for your video where you find the most powerful laptop that is 100% Haiku compatible. If MicroCenter sells it, I'll buy it.
As an actual owner of BeOS, which I bought in the 90's, I think this is awesome. I would use Haiku on my daily driver if I could game on it :) Need Libre office as well.
I'll take every bit of the Micro Center "product placement". I've been to the store in Brooklyn a few times and, as is demonstrated here, I've also always been shocked by the amount of and specificity of the hardware they have on offer. With the exception of big box software, it feels like walking into a CompUSA circa 1997. I'm glad things are going well for them. Hopefully they open a store north of Yonkers at some point!
Chuckling at you modern-day BeBOX -- looks cool! 😎 And yah, Micro Center _is_ the best computer store out there right now! I count myself lucky to be only ~10 min away from the Minnesota store. Every computer I've had for the last 20+ years, I either bought it there or bought parts for it there. I even bought two of my phones there, unlocked and refurbished. I don't care if I could've found some of it cheaper online; if Micro Center has what I want, I'll head down there and get it myself, instead of waiting for shipping!
From what I have gathered from watching Haiku install videos is that they really need to get track pads, wifi and 3D fixed. Other than that, it looks like a great modern build of the incredible BeOS. I always wanted the original BeOS to be top dog in the 90s, guess it was just too good to succeed.
There was (still is?) a livejournal blog of a Haiku enthusiast who turned his old laptop into a Haiku dev station. The twist: he was also a D lang enthusiast. And he wrote several apps for image processing (graphical apps!), like, simulate a small black hole with given parameters and put it in your picture (several years before Nolan, without accretion disks, but using a physically correct GR approximation); or app that helped fix photos with skewed skyline. All written in D lang. Stopped following livejournal long ago, but maybe we should check him up: he might have created Skynet or something, Haiku based and written in D lang, running on some vintage piece of iron.
Love our local Microcenter (the HQ is here) and I love it for 3d printing stuff, being able to browse. Love the build, am tempted to try firing Haiku up on my gaming rig for a laugh.
what an absolutely lovely video. i especially liked the front panel rgb lights and how they went together really well with the wood! as well as the badge, how it snapped on was so cool! maybe you could take a pi pico, and hook it up via usb - make it pretend it's a serial port so you can write to it from a terminal; then write a simple script that blasts e.g. core use as a number to it, and have the pi control an addressable rgb strip? how about that?
I had a real BeBox many years ago. Unfortunately lost it when my shop burned down.😢 But I also had a dual PowerPC SuperMac that I had BeOS running on. I was a big fan of BeOS. They were wayyyy ahead of their time. I often wonder what would have happened if Apple had decided on BeOS instead of NeXT for OS X…..
I'm so jealous of people who live near a Micro Center - we don't have anything like that up in the Pacific Northwest, and I just got the chance to visit a MC the other day when visiting a friend in Boston, and it was like visiting a holy site. I'm begging you MC, open a location in Seattle, there will be SO many nerds throwing money at you constantly if you do!
Cambridge, MA Micro Center needs a renovation. Used to work there and the roof leaks into the laptop store room, among other problems with the building. Still happy Micro Center is around though.
Sadly, the only Microcenter here in Cali is in socal in "Tustin" anymore. I miss having access to one like I did in the midwest. I still have my BeOS media that I requested way back when.
Nothing we love to see more than a great project created and maintained by an enthusiastic group of users and developers with a passion for the technology! BeOS once seemed like the natural successor to Classic MacOS and although we ended up with a great Unix we can’t help but wonder how it might have been if BeOS had taken the prize.
That rear 120mm fan really isn't necessary; once you have the three 120s on the AIO radiator in the front, they will make sure enough air goes through the case from front to back. Overall I like the look of the case a lot; I have a rare old Antec P150 that I have been using forever because instead of a light show, it just looks like a futuristic appliance.
5:02 Performance tip, use the furthest memory slot from the cpu and its corresponding slot to get the best signal integrity and termination. In this case, that would be the grey slots. DDR5 has error correction, so the performance might be degraded without any errors showing up and DDR5 is REALLY sensitive about trace lengths, clocking and timings. Also, enable XMP in the UEFI interface.
XMP is Intel's way of setting the 'technically overclocking' frequency and timing settings that are advertised on the ram in one easy to use setting, instead of manually changing dozens of timing settings. TL;DR: XMP make memory go BRRRRR (or at least at its rated speed)
I live near the Microcenter in Overland Park, KS and visit it all the time! So nice there's still a brick and mortar place like this nearby. I miss Frys and CompUSA.
There is absolutely zero support for hardware acceleration in Haiku. It's using the Intel graphics but only for the display output, it's not actually _using_ the GPU.
Really want Haiku OS on my Apple Silicon M1 with GPU support It will be obsolete in a couple of years or so (with Apple), and I will use it for another 10 years with Linux, or Haiku OS perhaps....
I like the Micro Center in Overland Park, Kansas. I like the fact I can just talk straight up and they can understand what the flip I'm talking about. It doesn't matter if I'm looking for Linux compatible stuff or even Hackintosh! Back in the day, I even bought USB expansion cards from there. I'm like a kid in a candy store when I go to Micro Center. :)
You really need to flip your orientation of your rad and tubes. Having the pump lower than the rad will create a pocket issue. To keep the system from killing the pump over time it needs to have the tubes going to the top of the rad not below
Wow! This is kinda weird. I have the same case, and I also have the Phanteks RGB LED strip(s)... The way you did it looks absolutely INCREDIBLE by adding them to the front. Gonna do this tomorrow myself! Thank you!
haha what a fun, thank you for this, i will share your Video at Facebook.. i remember to boot BeOS in my old AMD K5 100 MHz in 15 Seconds, Windows needed more than 1 minute to boot.. this was in 1998..many greetings from brunswick in germany and please stay safe 🙃
That build was completely over the top. I love it. But if you're going to do some development work... please consider getting some video drivers to work. I don't know how hard it would be to port Nouveux drivers from Linux... but that would give us *some* type of Nvidia drivers. I've done a few Haiku videos myself and I'm hoping for good things to come from Haiku.
BeOS had a installer that let you install BeOS in Windows without partitioning your drive. You would boot into Windows (98 in my case) run the BeOS app, and it would boot you into a copy of BeOS. It was such a smooth experience at the time.
But in that case you will be limited with the number of CPU cores recognized by the system. Only one. Maybe some other limitations as well. I don't remember all the details but at that time I was motivated enough to give BeOS it's own separate partition.
@@jdotoko I was a rookie with computers at the time and back then you needed partition magic to resize the partitions on the family computer. I knew there were limitations but I was still impressed bu the performance on my 400MHz P2.
I just wish the UK had a Microcenter alternative, we had Mapplin but they closed all physical stores years ago and Curry's hasn't stocked PC parts in quite awhile from what I know
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Microcenter must be the easiest sponsor to promote. Such a great retailer
People ask me why I drive so far to go to a computer store. (It's only 45 minutes away to get to the Cambridge, MA store for me.) It's because the deals are great, but also if we want these places to exist, we have a duty to shop at them. Sure, I can buy all of the same stuff online, but going to a brick and morter location and getting to see everything (especially important for picking a case, or laptop, and most importantly a monitor) is better.
The biggest downside? I'll have a shopping list of like $200 in things I want, and then I finally leave with like $1,000 worth the stuff like 30 minutes later. As a tech hoarder, that store is very dangerous to me... but I still continue going. I need my fix! 🤣
I only take sponsorships from Big Tobacco and Raytheon - I enjoy challenge
if only they'd make a location in the PNW
@@first-last557 keep the crime down a bit more, and they might. 😁👍
I doubt they want the place looted every day and shat in by whatever random homeless drug addicts drift in there. 🤣
@sbrazenor2 the Cambridge store is my closest store too...but I live 3.5 hours away in Maine....but I still make the journey there 2 or 3 times a year (usually whenever I'm going to Fenway for a Sox game). Definitely worth the trip everytime!
Bless Mrs. Retro, tolerating infinite shenanigans.
The woman is a saint. 🤣
"And if you enjoy living with a grown man who does unreasonable things to innocent old computers, I hope you'll consider subscribing to the channel."
It is insane that you can build a supercomputer power from 80s/90s using off-the-shelf components and then run BEOS on it. 🤣
It is Haiku he shows, a modern system inspired by Be. Be itself will not run on anything later than pentium iii, and will not allow more than 1Gb of RAM. There will also be complications running modern compilers on it, I think it was tied to gcc 2.95 (ancient). I have a holiday in a few weeks and have collected a dual 440BX motherboard, ram, chips and ssd to have a shot at a build, all from ebay. An IDE to SSD interface should allow a faster experience than the system had 25 years ago. Peripheral cards that used to be expensive are cheap on ebay also - intel chipset network cards, video cards.
Also record a video on your phone post it to the internet and view the video on your watch with wireless earbuds. Probably more absurd things if you told people in the 90s
@@yakmage8085 lets calls it wireless walkman
Technically not BeOS as it's NewOS instead. But I don't want to correct you, but I did. Im sorry. lol
"I am a big fan of Haiku operating system" , well , we almost didn't noticed it ...xD
Yup, milked 4 videos (including this one) from Haiku
That’s my nearest Microcenter, too! I love it! And everyone on the staff with whom I’ve spoken has been a total pro and super helpful!
oh yeah they are so great there. i'm seriously in there all the time lol
My local store as well! ❤
Must be nice. The closet one to me is a minimum 4 hour drive to get too. 😢
It's my local MicroCenter, too! St. Davids, PA! The same Microcenter where a bit over a year ago I managed to basically win the lottery and snag an RTX 4090 Founders Edition. Thought i'd "missed out" on getting a PNY 4090 because I was there looking at 3D printer filament and thought to myself "Yeah right... what are the odds they'd have a 4090 in stock today?". Literally 30 seconds after I asked that, someone else asked, and they're like "Yep, we have one last PNY brand card in stock". So I was all kinds of pissed off at myself.... went up to another employee, asked if there was any chance they might have another 4090, to which I was told that the last one was just purchased.
Fast forward maybe 10-15 minutes, I picked out my filament that i wanted to get (wanted.... not NEEDED.... can't help but go there and buy at LEAST 2 spools), and was finally telling myself "Ok, time to get out of here before I find other stuff to spend money on". As I walk away from the filament area, the employee walks up to me with a very generic looking, though familiar, brown box, and says "Hey.... according to my manager, there's an RTX 4090 Founder card in here. If you want it, it's yours". Obviously they opened the box just to double check that it WAS a 4090 FE. Other employees looked at it, puzzled they got a FE when only Best Buy gets them. Another customer walked over and told them he wanted it and they're like "Sorry, already claimed". I even took the generic brown box when I bought it, A) because it's a rather overengineered generic brown box, and B) didn't want to be walking around ANYWHERE in the semi-Philly area with a blatantly obvious high-end GPU box in the middle of the GPU shortage.
And on a funny note.... as is typical with MicroCenter (and most other retailers), I got at least one e-mail asking me to leave a review of my recent purchase.... of the 4090 FE...... the card that, to this day, is nowhere on their website (for obvious reasons). They wanted me to leave a review, that would never be seen by anybody, for a card that they don't sell. The even MORE funny part.... I got 2 emails earlier this month, saying I could make use of "an exclusive Trade-In Program for working GPUs purchased at Micro Center, ensuring you get same-day value for your graphics card." That trade in value? $699.95! I could trade in my GPU, in a period where there isn't any other GPU more powerful than it, for probably a little more than half of what I could get for it if I were to just throw it on eBay right now. NICE! lol
@@rmcdudmk2125 hrs for me will have to check them out next time I’m near there
Flip the radiator, it's mounted upside down which is not ideal. It will be noisier and if there's air bubbles it can damage or destroy the pump. Your pump is at the top of the loop with the radiator's current orientation and you never want that, and it'll allow you to mount your pump in the correct orientation rather than sideways.
That's only true if the top part of the radiator is lower than the pump, which is not the case there and this is the recommended orientation for front install. If he used the XL version of the North, he would've mounted the AIO at the top instead.
Wish we had something like Micro Center here in the UK!
Overclockers UK, IMEX business park in Stoke on Trent is really good. If I was in England and I was making a new build It's where I'd go.
@@jondonnelly3That's one store for the whole UK though... and it's in Stoke-on-Trent, the butt of every joke about places in the UK that are terrible.
We used to have a quite similar shop to Micro Center, called Maplin - it sold PC components, cases, etc. It also sold just electronics components for projects, you could go in and buy a single resistor or a bag of 555 timers or anything else.
Unfortunately over time it became less about that and more just mass-market gadgets and then the online retailers just blew it out of the water on pricing. A real shame because being able to get PC parts or electronic components same-day, within the hour if you lived near enough, was fantastic.
PC World used to also be pretty good in terms of selection but now it's just an area in a general electronics and appliances retailer rather than a full standalone store, and it just doesn't have the stock variety that it used to.
Maplin did exist as more of a hobbyist type store but they died like 6 years ago
There are two things I want in this world:-
1) Physical stores where I can buy anything I want whenever I want it. No online waiting time.
2) Independently owned shops that have specific types of stock in each one. I don't want everything to be an oversized general store that only has the same handful of products from each category in them. Do you know how annoying it to need something and your only options are Sainsbury's, Kaufland, Alza and Coles, no matter which direction you go?
It's so bloody refreshing to see a TH-cam channel be sponsored by an actual shop, not a subscription or website.
used to have these in the 90 and early 2000s, then everyone wanted online convenience cheaper prices and global reach... and here we are... There is ZERO places like this where I live now, used to have several 20-30 years ago... yeah progress.
@@jonathont5570 exactly. That's why I try and shop at independent or niche stores regardless of how weird.
What we really need is a USB interface to an Arduino based LED controller (eg. WS2812/5 protocol). A small polling based app that reads CPU usage every 1/60 sec and lights up the LED’s accordingly, and presto, BlinkenLights. A Haiku dev can get this done in a day. For my employer I’ve done something similar (RS232 port), but for mass market appeal you need USB. A good option would be to 3D print a mini case with LED lamps, say 8 strips (like the good old HiFi spectrum analysers) and sell this to retro enthuisiasts.
"Tea Time at H.P. Lovecrafts House" is my favorite quote this month!
absolutely do not ask about the cat
biblically accurate teapot.
You know what would be really cool, though? If Haiku supported the modern POWER architecture and the Talos II and Blackbird motherboards. Then you could build a modern IBM POWER-based BeBox. The original was PowerPC-based, right? Much more analogous :)
I love the case design. That BeOS badge on the front is fricken perfect, and the RGB along the sides on the front is brilliant.
Are you in the mod community, Xbox too, you should be able to run Unix on them
original Power PC apps, not sure if people need that, why should you run them on Power PC ?
@@lucasremNot really, but I like to tinker. I did a CPU upgrade on a Power Mac G5 to make a dual 2.5 GHz out of a dual 2.0 GHz using one of the CPU modules out of a dead quad G5, for instance. I once put the guts of a beige G3 tower Mac into an ATX case too. Just yesterday, I installed Fedora Asahi Linux onto a spare M1 Mac mini :) I'm just a lone wolf enthusiast.
Holy shit I legit had the same idea. Honestly there's been so little TH-cam attention on those desktop POWER machines. When I was in high school one of my dream PCs was the original unsuccessful Talos 1. That was back when I thought I'd become a computer engineer or programmer. Nowadays I'd just want one for the sheer fact it's an enterprise-grade architecture in desktop form.
@@ericwood3709 what about weird OSes for SPARCstations?
@@SockyNoob If those things weren't so prohibitively expensive, I'd get one just for fun. I like Fedora Linux anyway, so bonus there.
I wish Micro Center would put a store closer to me! My closest one is in Baltimore, but i've stopped at the St. Davids store a few times when out that way to see my kids. Love that place. Oh wait... maybe they shouldn't put a store closer, then i'd be broke!
Same here. The closest store to me is a 4-6 hour drive.
I never leave the store without spending a few hundred on things I don't need.
@@rmcdudmk212 ...... still worth it. Maybe not as often as me driving a hair over an hour to St. Davids.... but still worth it. lol
@@marcosramirez385 In my case, not always a "few hundred"..... but at least 2-4 spools of filament each trip.
I love Micro Center, but does anyone else remember their store #1 before they became a "big box" store? It was really something special that I have fond memories of. It was in a two-story building and was set up kinda as if each department was its own store in a small shopping mall. Each department had their own registers, so you could check out from any of them, but it literally felt like you were going into a mall with each store dedicated to something computer or electronics related. It was just missing a food court.
That sounds pretty sick, wish I coulda seen it
oh cool, where was that at?
@@ActionRetro It was on Lane Ave in Columbus, Ohio, where they are based out of.
Fun facts.
Micro Center is an American computer department store founded in Columbus, Ohio in 1979 by two former Radio Shack employees. The first Micro Center store was a 900 sq ft (84 m2). storefront located in the Lane Avenue Shopping Center in Upper Arlington, Ohio. There are 22 Micro Center stores nationwide in California, Colorado, Georgia, Illinois, Kansas, Massachusetts, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas, and Virginia.Micro Center is one of the companies of Micro Electronics, Inc., a privately held corporation headquartered in Hilliard, Ohio in suburban Columbus. Besides selling the name brand products of a multitude of manufacturers, Micro Center also sells products under various of its own brand names. These brand names include PowerSpec, WinBook, and IPSG. As well, their Redemtech division sells used and surplus computing equipment through their stores. Micro Center's slogan (appearing on the store's signage outside the stores) has, in later years, come to be "Micro Center: The Ultimate Computer Store".
@@NoMore12345-z I've been at their corporate location for interviews a couple of times. I was overqualified both times, but I still think it would be a cool place to work doing something similar to what I do now.
You lucky bastard. Nearest MicroCenter to me is like 2 hours away. Which, to someone who can't drive, feels about as far away as Alpha Centauri.
Get a friend!
Who drives and is into PCs.
6 hours for me. So it feels like going to Barnard's Star.
I went to Micro Center last week and they were still selling internal narrow SCSI cables! Since I had just had the need for one of those recently, I picked one up.
And yes, they still sell all the old connectivity in the USB aisle.
lol pretty sure when the Microcenter opened up here in Indy there was a big sign that said "please don't shoot your youtube/tiktok/whatever videos in here"
He did ask for permission, which turned into a sponsorship. Also, I think when they first opened they were limiting videos to the tech influencers to the people who they'd brought in to open the store. Don't know about now, and my local (Dallas) MicroCenter doesn't have any signs
@arthuralford sure wish they'd open one in Tyler.... we could use one in east Texas
I miss mine, haven't had one since I left Houston
@@raymacdhomhnuill8018 pretty sure there is one in east Texas actually. North of Galveston.
This video can't be real. No catastrophes. Nothing went wrong. Completely unlike every other video on this channel. I do love the light strips.
I really love your dedication to HAIKU! I'm also a person who is deeply fascinated by HAIKU and all the what if's this project offers. I use Fedora for work which I love so much, but for some reason, HAIKU just hits different...
I loved BeOS. I really liked Haiku when I tried it. I love that you show how good it is. you're the real deal.
Don't use ESD bags to build stuff on, the outside of an ESD bag is very conductive. Use the cardboard box or a ESD safe mat. Part of my yearly training at work is to make sure I never use an ESD bag as a ESD safe mat.
Or use the anti static foam from inside the bag.
That is one cool project! I still have my original BeBox (Dual PPC 66 MHz). It still works after almost 30 years, and I run it every now and then - purely for nostalgia! BTW, the LED strips on the sides reflect the activities of the processors.
That's amazing!
Oh man, this makes me miss BeOS so much...
I used it as my primary OS for a while, 1999-2001 or so. It was heartbreaking when they threw in the towel.
13:05 I need to know if the Intel iGPU drivers are just crap here or is this running off the CPU completely somehow?
As someone who recently bought an old 2000s workstation at a garage sale for running Haiku, i can sympathize with the excitement of the system unleashed. It kinda sorta runs on a netbook and small form factor notebooks, but its only when its in a desktop PC that it shines.
I love my "local" MicroCenter... an hour away in Cambridge, MA.
I love Micro Center. I built most of my systems from their parts (there was a brief period in the late 90s/early 2000s where I bought from a small local chain). I would also buy parts/upgrades through them or Fry's. When one of the Fry's closed (online hurt lots of brick and mortar), I started getting worried about the other Fry's and Micro Center. And when the other Fry's went down the drain and the Pandemic hit, I figured it would be a matter of time for Micro Center to close, too But they're doing fine. They are usually very busy on the weekends and sometimes weeknights. So, yay!
Yes, here in Silicon Valley, the one MicroCenter closed over a decade ago, and since Fry's Electroncs when under, it's just been my local cramped CentralComputer to browse
The computer build looks pretty nice, too bad there was no way to add a Geek Port to the machine......perhaps someday in the future, yes?
Really looking forward to the Charlotte store opening, it'll be nice to actually have a physical place where I can get my hands on electronic components without having to order online.
My reaction to the idea: "That's ridiculous, absurd, and utterly silly.. I love it!"
Crazy level of compatibility. Well done, Haiku team. Many SBCs come with "supported" operating systems that provide a lot less functionality.
You are very lucky to have a Micro Center nearby. Right now the closest one to us is about an hour away but man, it's awesome. No biggie though, in the old days I had to drive an hour to get to CompUSA, so I'm used to it.😃
I hope MicroCenter at some point branches out to Sweden, as that's where I live. And I love the idea of a "supermarket of computer parts", which both MediaMarkt and Elgiganten not really are. And recently the MediaMarkt in Kalmar has been replaced with another shop I've never heard of before.
Not to be that guy but for dual memory sticks you need to install them in the grey slots, i.e second and fourth from the cpu for max performance.
This obsession with Haiku is getting out of hand.. And I'm here for every minute of it!
I can't believe it.
Action Modern.
Love your Haiku videos! I've been a BeOS / Haiku user since Release 3, and for a time it was my daily driver. Only one point to comment: 100MB is OK for your EFI boot partition but, if you want to install -lets say- five different operating systems on the same disk, you will need at least a 512MB-1GB one to acomodate the different boot loaders, some of them may be way bigger than the BeOS one! 🤓
LOL - I'm used to the Canadian accents on LTT talking about this sort of stuff - was not ready for Wooder Cooler
your next project NEEDS to be making the RGB strips reflect the CPU activity! 😍
Very nice. Excellent that you were able to buy everything at Micro Centre
I’m no expert but I believe your rear case can is backwards and your AIO is upside down?
Pretty cool build. I am new to the channel and really enjoying it!
I love Micro Center. I live in Chicago, about a 30-minute drive from one. (We have two in the Chicago metro area.) As far as I know, it's the last remaining brick-and-mortar computer supermarket chain left standing. We have no shortage of small computer stores in the area, but all of the ones I know of mainly sell parts for gaming enthusiasts. Micro Center, on the other hand, is for everybody. I always get great service there, and it's not unusual for them to beat online prices. It's my favorite toy store!
This was a perfect fit for Micro Center sponsorship! And you are using the case I checked out and want to get (from Micro Center Towson).
From the thumbnail i didn't expect this machine to look good for some reason. But it does look really nice! hopefully we will see haiku eventually take advantage of that cpu fully.
Aren't there any GPU's that work in Haiku? Since the Intel APU is working, do the Intel Arc GPU's work?
He’s running the x64 build of Haiku! It isn’t backwards compatible but its a fully modern operating system. It shows how smooth it runs on modern hardware. 😊
The Fractal North is such a beautiful case. I kinda want to do a retro build in it now.
When demoing official Minecraft builds can I convince you to hit F3 to show the debug stats in game? Even just flash it for a moment would get me what I'm asking for. I just like seeing what is reported for the setup and if that is on screen and I can pause the video to read, that would give me all kinds of fun info. And just to have it said I did go to Madison Heights Micro Center to get an Evolve 3 to mess with after your recent video.
Love this. Don't live anywhere near a MicroCenter. However, waiting for your video where you find the most powerful laptop that is 100% Haiku compatible. If MicroCenter sells it, I'll buy it.
Great video! Love how you used that Fractal case with the lights and badge! I love how you and the Mrs. are having so much fun!
I miss Microcenter. I moved from Fairfax several years ago and back to my hometown. They are building one and it’s opening soon.
I'm not even surprised to see my Prime X370 Pro so highly rated for Haiku. Surprised me just how much worked straight away when I tried it myself.
As an actual owner of BeOS, which I bought in the 90's, I think this is awesome. I would use Haiku on my daily driver if I could game on it :) Need Libre office as well.
A BeBox replica is supposed to have io ports, like a Rasberry or a Pi
That turned out great! love the Haiku videos you've been doing
I'll take every bit of the Micro Center "product placement". I've been to the store in Brooklyn a few times and, as is demonstrated here, I've also always been shocked by the amount of and specificity of the hardware they have on offer. With the exception of big box software, it feels like walking into a CompUSA circa 1997. I'm glad things are going well for them. Hopefully they open a store north of Yonkers at some point!
Chuckling at you modern-day BeBOX -- looks cool! 😎
And yah, Micro Center _is_ the best computer store out there right now! I count myself lucky to be only ~10 min away from the Minnesota store. Every computer I've had for the last 20+ years, I either bought it there or bought parts for it there. I even bought two of my phones there, unlocked and refurbished. I don't care if I could've found some of it cheaper online; if Micro Center has what I want, I'll head down there and get it myself, instead of waiting for shipping!
From what I have gathered from watching Haiku install videos is that they really need to get track pads, wifi and 3D fixed. Other than that, it looks like a great modern build of the incredible BeOS. I always wanted the original BeOS to be top dog in the 90s, guess it was just too good to succeed.
There was (still is?) a livejournal blog of a Haiku enthusiast who turned his old laptop into a Haiku dev station. The twist: he was also a D lang enthusiast. And he wrote several apps for image processing (graphical apps!), like, simulate a small black hole with given parameters and put it in your picture (several years before Nolan, without accretion disks, but using a physically correct GR approximation); or app that helped fix photos with skewed skyline. All written in D lang. Stopped following livejournal long ago, but maybe we should check him up: he might have created Skynet or something, Haiku based and written in D lang, running on some vintage piece of iron.
“Bebox” sounds like a dvd box set of Cowboy Bebop 😂
(Or it sounds like beatboxing)
LOL. I'm not the only one who thought that! :)
Love our local Microcenter (the HQ is here) and I love it for 3d printing stuff, being able to browse.
Love the build, am tempted to try firing Haiku up on my gaming rig for a laugh.
Thanks Micro Centre!
Haiku looks amazing here!
Sponsored video
That Microcenter place looks so cool! I wish we'd have stores like this here in Germany.
what an absolutely lovely video. i especially liked the front panel rgb lights and how they went together really well with the wood! as well as the badge, how it snapped on was so cool! maybe you could take a pi pico, and hook it up via usb - make it pretend it's a serial port so you can write to it from a terminal; then write a simple script that blasts e.g. core use as a number to it, and have the pi control an addressable rgb strip? how about that?
I had a real BeBox many years ago. Unfortunately lost it when my shop burned down.😢 But I also had a dual PowerPC SuperMac that I had BeOS running on. I was a big fan of BeOS. They were wayyyy ahead of their time. I often wonder what would have happened if Apple had decided on BeOS instead of NeXT for OS X…..
I'm so jealous of people who live near a Micro Center - we don't have anything like that up in the Pacific Northwest, and I just got the chance to visit a MC the other day when visiting a friend in Boston, and it was like visiting a holy site. I'm begging you MC, open a location in Seattle, there will be SO many nerds throwing money at you constantly if you do!
Cambridge, MA Micro Center needs a renovation. Used to work there and the roof leaks into the laptop store room, among other problems with the building. Still happy Micro Center is around though.
A someone who lives in Canada, that Microcenter sponsor hurts me.
Sadly, the only Microcenter here in Cali is in socal in "Tustin" anymore. I miss having access to one like I did in the midwest. I still have my BeOS media that I requested way back when.
Nothing we love to see more than a great project created and maintained by an enthusiastic group of users and developers with a passion for the technology! BeOS once seemed like the natural successor to Classic MacOS and although we ended up with a great Unix we can’t help but wonder how it might have been if BeOS had taken the prize.
Thanks for the coupon! Just got back from Micro Center with my new 3D printer. Micro Center was awesome!
heck yeah microcenter rules!
Wish theyd open up a Microcenter over here in Portland. Seattle doesnt need one, they got RePC and a bunch of other resources over there.
Heeeyyyyyy that's my "local" micro center. Great location I wish I had a good reason to get out there more.
it's so trippy to see you at my local Micro Center that's awesome
That rear 120mm fan really isn't necessary; once you have the three 120s on the AIO radiator in the front, they will make sure enough air goes through the case from front to back. Overall I like the look of the case a lot; I have a rare old Antec P150 that I have been using forever because instead of a light show, it just looks like a futuristic appliance.
Jean-Louis Gassee wants to know where you were back in 1996 when he needed to convince Apple...
5:02 Performance tip, use the furthest memory slot from the cpu and its corresponding slot to get the best signal integrity and termination. In this case, that would be the grey slots.
DDR5 has error correction, so the performance might be degraded without any errors showing up and DDR5 is REALLY sensitive about trace lengths, clocking and timings.
Also, enable XMP in the UEFI interface.
XMP is Intel's way of setting the 'technically overclocking' frequency and timing settings that are advertised on the ram in one easy to use setting, instead of manually changing dozens of timing settings.
TL;DR: XMP make memory go BRRRRR (or at least at its rated speed)
I live near the Microcenter in Overland Park, KS and visit it all the time! So nice there's still a brick and mortar place like this nearby. I miss Frys and CompUSA.
which video card? onboard graphics? are there dedicated GPUs supported in Haiku?
There is absolutely zero support for hardware acceleration in Haiku. It's using the Intel graphics but only for the display output, it's not actually _using_ the GPU.
Really want Haiku OS on my Apple Silicon M1 with GPU support
It will be obsolete in a couple of years or so (with Apple), and I will use it for another 10 years with Linux, or Haiku OS perhaps....
I like the Micro Center in Overland Park, Kansas. I like the fact I can just talk straight up and they can understand what the flip I'm talking about. It doesn't matter if I'm looking for Linux compatible stuff or even Hackintosh!
Back in the day, I even bought USB expansion cards from there.
I'm like a kid in a candy store when I go to Micro Center. :)
You can show us illumos (open indiana or tribblix) and redox os if you don't want to show bsd's and linux. Very nice video...
You really need to flip your orientation of your rad and tubes. Having the pump lower than the rad will create a pocket issue. To keep the system from killing the pump over time it needs to have the tubes going to the top of the rad not below
We're getting a Microcenter down here in South Florida as well. A bit of a drive for me as it's down in Miami, but it's great that I have it here.
Brick and mortar pc stores are something I've not seen in a while. You're so likely to have Microcenter, I'd love to have them in my country...
What a lovely little box you made, love seeing nice OSs getting real usage :D
This just makes me sad we don't have microcenter in Utah
My last build was an AMD-FX Series about 10 years ago. It’s time to get back into it!
I live close to the same Micro Center! Love the store - reminicent of CompUSA, Radio Shack and others from 80's and 90's
That's awesome! I wish we had a Micro Center up here in Maine. The closest on is 110 miles away!
in the uk we have currys if you go to their stores looking for pc stuff they just tell you to order it from the website
*siiiiigh* In the 1/4 of the United States without a single Micro Center in it.
I have 2 within an hour drive of me
Wow! This is kinda weird. I have the same case, and I also have the Phanteks RGB LED strip(s)... The way you did it looks absolutely INCREDIBLE by adding them to the front. Gonna do this tomorrow myself! Thank you!
I am a fan of this video for no specific reason
Love your new Haiku build ! That was fun to watch.
Well done! You’ve almost inspired me to build a modern BeBox!
That case is gorgeous.
We used to have Fry’s Electronics and Microcenter. It was the golden age of commercial computer component consumerism.
haha what a fun, thank you for this, i will share your Video at Facebook.. i remember to boot BeOS in my old AMD K5 100 MHz in 15 Seconds, Windows needed more than 1 minute to boot.. this was in 1998..many greetings from brunswick in germany and please stay safe 🙃
In 2000 i had a Website running with Desktop Wallpaper, which i've created for BeOS, great Times back then..
That build was completely over the top. I love it. But if you're going to do some development work... please consider getting some video drivers to work. I don't know how hard it would be to port Nouveux drivers from Linux... but that would give us *some* type of Nvidia drivers. I've done a few Haiku videos myself and I'm hoping for good things to come from Haiku.
BeOS had a installer that let you install BeOS in Windows without partitioning your drive. You would boot into Windows (98 in my case) run the BeOS app, and it would boot you into a copy of BeOS. It was such a smooth experience at the time.
But in that case you will be limited with the number of CPU cores recognized by the system. Only one. Maybe some other limitations as well.
I don't remember all the details but at that time I was motivated enough to give BeOS it's own separate partition.
@@jdotoko I was a rookie with computers at the time and back then you needed partition magic to resize the partitions on the family computer. I knew there were limitations but I was still impressed bu the performance on my 400MHz P2.
I just wish the UK had a Microcenter alternative, we had Mapplin but they closed all physical stores years ago and Curry's hasn't stocked PC parts in quite awhile from what I know