Going to have a long time to wait until we get to watch Westworld season 4. Let me know what you thought about the season 3 finale and this season in general.
I thought it was great. This is obviously an epic tale about humanity's next stage in evolution. Whether it is the host or some human-host hybrid which will take us to a journey to the stars remains to be seen in this tale. But I do believe the Nolans went out of their way to present the Wild West as an ultimate Proving Ground for that which ventures forth. The World as we know it has been turned into WESTWORLD. But you only get one life this time around.
I enjoyed the finale and would have to say I preferred this season to season 2 on the whole, especially how Delores Prime realized that for how awful humans can be, they're also capable of good and, just like hosts, deserve to have a choice about how their future plays out. A change of heart and self-sacrifice I thought reflective of Dr. Ford in season 1. The aspect I believe they did clearly bungle was Maeve, changing 180 degrees from being so intelligent and clever, to sticking with helping Serac when it seemed obvious he would just erase the host data, including her daughter, stored on the satellite. The aspect I am quite confused by is why Serac/Rehoboam would consider the guest data on the satellite as still being of vital importance when the world order is rapidly crumbling. It seemed clear he had no interest in making use of host technology once he took control of Delos, so how might that be so useful beyond having a bit more knowledge? (Some of which, perhaps in large part, was already being shared with Rehoboam)
Bringing bernard to the forefront is the best option hes the best character there is they waited all season to give him the end but his beginning him vs charlotte... Episode was filled with beautiful and its amazing delores diddnt wanna kill anyome jist wanted to have the world accept itself and hosts and humans
I cried like a female when bernard met his old family so sad alsp there is no way delores diddnt make a backup of her memories and herself... She will be back...
A few loose ends. The trailer scene where Caleb visits Francis in what looked like a jail was never shown. Where’s Clementine and Hanaryo ? How many nights did BernArnold rent that motel room?
Apocalypse..... world is in disarray. ... everything is trashed and not maintained... hence he is full of dust... and no rent was paid because the world is totally destroyed..... Bernard is the new Jesus Christ ... he has learnt how to fix the world through the host world that he saw.... and will gather a following of humans who will help him to achieve this in this destroyed world. .... thats what season 4 will be about
Random thought, but if Arnold has been in the Sublime for a long time he must’ve observed a lot of hosts in there. And if need be he could be probably be able to build them just like he did with Dolores. Maybe he’ll need to do this to fight against Charlotte(Dolores) and her army. Idk this is just a random thought/theory I thought of
very disappointed in this season and how they dispatched the man in black. He just stood there with a desert eagle not shooting evil Char-Loeres in the face, after just shooting his way in, WTF? did he not make it clear he was trying to kill all hosts!? i guess I will just stand here and let my own copy casually walk up and beat the shit out of me, it's like he forgot he was fist fighting a robot? this show has turned into a knock off of blade Runner, i miss Westworld storylines. many people gave up after season 2, I choose to give up after season 3.
Funny thing is he gets his wish cause charlotte puts him into the game that happens season 1 n 2 man in black that story is his story that he keeps running cause charlotte wanted to punish him or oversee westworld or wherever bernard went to thats what i think season 2 happened after season 3 and ford is guarding the valley beyond a d so is bernard but charlotte wants the data but she cant get to it cause bernard os offline and went into westworld or the sublime which is a looped game and thats wby charlotte seems to knkw everything in her season 2 ... Funny she fucks hector tpp then seems all the hosts or host that bernard and or man in black go with are copies of delores lawrence and then shogun world... Its all a game and charlotte cant get to fidelity for man in black or other human hosts cause tbey need the data but never get tp it cause bernard traps himself in the sim of sublime which i think is westworld she recreated it and its a loop to try to figure out and she just cant get the data...
I believe also the guests are outliers... That's exactly what they are duh! Anybody who tried to question her they get put into the game... What do u think this is... I mean really tho the fucking running the sim since charlotte is in charge of it...
I think Bernard will bring Delores back and restore her personality in the next season. Also I can see Bernard creating host bodies for the host in sublime to bring them into the real world.
5:10 Every host has this traumatic kind of experience that defines them, the death of her family watching them burn to death must have become the new anchor point of Charlores. She also lived more as Charlotte Hail and probably was way more connected to that life than that of Dolores prime,
Pretty underwhelming season finale for an underdeveloped season. Sto many good ideas, such poor realization. Maybe two more episodes would have helped.
She'll be back. Pretty sure they wanted to make something that could be considered a proper ending just incase they didn't get another season. Iv seen bad Robot do the same thing with seasons midway through other shows as well.
So when exactly park 5 happened? Dolores had been in Westworld for like decades and if Park 5 was experimental and before Westworld park then Caleb should be way way older, because william got literally old in Westworld park alone.
We don't know if Westworld runs all year. There could be month long periods where it's closed or there might even be seasons, like sports or hunting. William himself has been said to go one month out of the year.
@@PetePeppers1 I actually percieved it as quite open, as the 2 aftercredits scenes are 'connected'. There's a slim chance the William scene is a part of what Bernard is seeing, as in his last convo with Stubbs he says something a long the line 'I'm going to see what happens after the chaos / end', if so it has not neccasserily happened yet
@@oribozo7334 the William after credit scene takes place before the bernard one and the season 2 end credit scene with William takes place after both of those
This season felt like the ‘safe’ narrative to get WW to the next HBO extension... If the writers come back strong in season 4 they can make this one worth it in retrospect. Feels like it could become West World’s Age of Ultron-kinda sucks on first reception but might have created just enough heart to fuel greater narrative highs in the future.
Great recap as always! Yes this was a lesser season than 1 & 2 but still entertaining. Curious as to why you leave the door open for Serac to be alive though he was bleeding out but not the same for the Man in Black? We didn't see either of them actually die...
To me the Man in Black scene played like Charlores' plan was to wait for him to arrive so she could kill him and replace him. In order for him to live she would have to save him, and that doesn't make a lot of sense. Serac was injured and probably dying, but Maeve and Caleb just left him there.
@@PetePeppers1 That makes sense, thought it was interesting though that a couple of other recaps I watched thought the door was left open for Human Man in Black to come back in Season 4. I can see both sides. Either way as you say we'll have quite a wait before we find out unfortunately. Thanks for your reply! Loved your recaps since Mr. Robot 👍🏽
I loved the season! The final was good but found the rest of the season more interesting. Meave s daughter story is starting to bore me, personally. But loved the ecolution of Dolores
Good season, however I missed the mystery aspect that season one had with the maze. I was really convinced this was Future World, although the replacement of humans with Host is kinda done here like the movie.
I've just finished season 1 through 3 and absolutely loved all of it. I saw both Westworld and Futureworld when I was a kid and I did think that season 3 was Futureworld. There's so much in the last episode that makes me question everything we've seen in the last 2 seasons.
I will admit.. Due to GoT, I never gave Westworld much thought until I kept seeing the Previews for S3, and thought, "Lemme check this out and see what I'm missing".. Thus far, I have not been disappointed at the depth of the story.. I never watched either of the original movies, and it was REALLY fun to watch something I hadn't seen before... Robots gaining sentience, theme park slaughter vacations, and Evan Rachel Wood, whom I've heard about, but never seen her in anything.. For me, there isn't any one big part of any episode in S3 that didn't hit, and it took the finale to fully explain why Dolores chose Caleb, who Caleb was, and what he was really all about... It's all still building to something bigger at this point and i'm vested for as long as many seasons as they wanna do... They've sold me on the series...
Hey, Mr. Peppers ... just wanted to say that I've watched several WW3x8 reviews/breakdowns and yours is one of the best so far (if not THE best). Clearly, you have host potential. Subbed. Belled. Grateful for the breakdown. Keep up the good work.
Liked this season, i think westworld is too complex and smart for it's own good sometimes so it's overall execution sometimes feels like it's stumbling on it's own rules.
Amazing Season Finale!!! Great episode breakdown Pete. Great Job. With COVID19 still around for a while the pre-production will be pushed out even more now for S4 :) I do hope Dolores returns. ERW is a great actress. Stay safe. Hope to see you sooner than later....
Season 3 overall was great IF you watch it with one approach in mind - that you must largely remove logic and lower your intelligence to ignore massive non-sensical errors.
Acsitram - ok from memory - why Musashi would be picked by Dolores as a copy when she never knew anything of his relationship with Maeve and really, given she never knew Maeve would be out the park, what purpose at all Musashi’s body served in the real world. How Clementine came back without any back up. Why Maeve would request Hanaryo to for backup and not actual MUSASHI ..or even Armistice - both of whom she was much closer to. Why Rehoboam was wiped at the end and there isn’t even a backup?!! Why Solomon would still be running AT ALL? Why Serac, who shoots people in the head, would give a shit about freezing outliers to fix later. Why there is any use for William’s character whatsoever? Why Charlores, who was shown as a more caring motherly character than Dolores would want a different plan to Dolores...when they are both Dolores and only haven’t been for 3 months. Why Charlores grew to love her Charlotte’s family so fast in 3 months....is this enough for now?
@@sctmcg They both started from the same point, but they experienced different things. They're not alike anymore, hence they want different things. Every host was created from Dolores, they're still not all Dolores anymore. Different experiences forge different characters. And for Serac: We don't know whether he gave a shit or not, but it doesn't even matter since he never did anything from himself anyway. He did not freeze the outliers, Rehoboam did, same as Rehoboam shot the people in the head, not Serac. He was only the mindless executioner of Rehoboams commands. I don't know whether I like this twist in the end or not, it turned an awesome villian to be a stupid and pathetic brat. Dolores not knowing anything about Maeves and Musashis relationship? She had access to every data of the park and later to Rehoboams archive. She knew everything. My theory about William: I don't think there's any use for him at all. He's not important to what's happening. It's just a side story about his character, a character study so to say. He was the mcguffin for Dolores and people liked him, so they kept the character. The other questions: Well, plot convenience probably. They're irrelevant nut picking mostly anyway, don't over analyse it. Except for Solomon still being active. That really didn't make any sense. You would shutdown the shizophrenic AI as soon as an upgrade is online, especially a very resource hungry and expensive giant ball one. The scene was cool nonetheless.
@@dasturschloss8679 Thanks for giving your views - I'm in agreement and I do appreciate it's nit picking but, at the same time, it's nit picking a multi-million dollar show which should be better than my ability to nit pick.
@@PermanentHigh They're hosts not humans, decapitation doesn't kill them, so long as the data core in Musashi's head is in tact that version of Dolores still lives.
@@PermanentHigh Potentially, or they gave it to Maeve, either way the fate of that orb was left ambiguous so you can't rule out that it might come in to play later.
A correction right of the bat - Serac did not create Incite. That was Liam Dempsey (not Jr.). Serac may have taken control of it, but it was Dempsey's company that provided him with the data.
I love the show. It's really similar to the world we are living in. We are all watched by someone smart that us and being controlled by the drama that is going on in this world. The only difference is that here we can't see that we are being controlled and guide by something.
The post credit scene from Season 2 was set in the future, with maybe a "host version" of the man in black, that wasn't sure if he was real or not. This could tie in with this ending, where that season 2 scene was from after events in season 4.
There's no big bad in westworld . . . Black hat and young William in s1, Charlotte hale or Dolores in s2, halores ? Or serac in s3? No definitive villain character
@@randomhuman97 Thank you. Finally someone understands the intention of the writers. They don't want to tell an ordinary binary good evil story. None of them are either. Got called an idiot for saying Dolores ain't evil. Hopefully after this episode people will finally get it.
I was devistated Delores died or whatever but they only mentioned deleting memory files from my understanding.. hopefully the rom files weren't damaged and she can be brought back online with season 4 I'm watching last episode again so I can pick up on anything I missed atm.
I still feel like this is setting up The Matrix or its' own version. Cha-lores is seemingly going darker than Delores and she might end up representing the machines that just want to destroy all humans. The Sublime is appearing more like it could be a secret copy or continuation of our world, perhaps there is a larger creation going on within it or it could really be a representation of heaven/paradise for those who were uploaded or anyone who can visit. The real world is definitely gonna be fucked up for awhile, who knows if the entire battle shifts towards 'Humans VS Machines'.. I kinda like the lighter twist on Westworld being an alternate version like 'Human AND Machine (Free will) VS Control and Power (Determinism)' Loved the similar psychological tie-in to Fight Club and how there is a difference in wanting to change/save the world and people by destroying it and rebuilding it _without_ seeking to purely annihilate people themselves.
I haven't seen anyone discuss why the scenes of Delores and Maeve talking near the tree was in letterbox format - didn't that mean previously we were watching a simulation???
@@PermanentHigh Charlotte carried 5 orbs out of the park in her purse. Including the one in her head, that makes 6 hosts (besides Maeve), loose in the matrix, ...er, the real world. Delores, Charlotte, Musashi, Connels, Bernard and the last one revealed was Lawrence.
"Explained"? I mean I was expecting some theorycrafting, but this was basically a summary of the plot of episode 8, with absolutely zero thoughts added to it.
I was right - Dolores Prime was indeed the passed pawn that trumps the king (both man and machine) as I predicted. Dolores will be back - spare metal body, spare memory backup - it may require bringing all the Ds back together again around Lawrence...and Hale plays brutal but she isn’t the brightest bulb in the room. Two years for us to go around and around this merry go round...damnable.
Was there a scene in any season that explained the effect of alcohol on Hosts? I’m just wondering if “drinking cheap booze” is going to numb any of the sensations of “literally [rotting]”? I suppose it would make sense from a story point of view for Ford & Arnold to make them affected by alcohol so a player could use alcohol to perhaps get the upper hand against a Host foe. Maybe. Was it ever addressed?
I really didn’t like having familiar human characters replaced as hosts so it makes less sense to me to kill off William. A good portion of the hosts we did see were just copies of Delores. It also rendered Williams arc this season pointless. He’s on the side of humans now and an anti-hero, opps, not you’re dead now. I hope he’s alive to face the worst parts of himself in his host.
Her real plan was to gain control of Rehoban and give it to Caleb to make his own choice. If they knew she wanted to save humanity in the first place she never would have gotten to that point.
William did not die his neck was cut and he was bleeding out but we did not seem him die and if you did not see him die on screen he is not died until confirmed that he is dead.
Possibly. Seems pretty nonsensical to cut his throat by a copy you made to replace him just to save his life, but maybe Charlores has a flair for the dramatic.
@@PetePeppers1 You contradict yourself. You imply that Serac may not be dead because, although he was bleeding out, he did not die on screen, yet you also contend that William, who we also left as he was bleeding out, is dead even though he too never died on screen. I certainly wouldn't put money on him being dead, because if anyone has a flair for the dramatic, it's William.
@What I get what you're saying, but that's not the point. Whether there was greater reason to kill William is not the issue. The issue is that he used the rule of someone not dying on-screen as evidence that they may still be alive, then implying the opposite thereafter with certainty. As for myself, I would argue that William's character arc alone is motive enough to keep him alive.
I think that Dolores stored all her good memories in maive mind so that even if she cud come back she won't remember all the bad things she has done. It will be like a start over for Dolores
I'm pretty sure having a little fun with some objects wouldn't classify as war crime. I get what you mean, but plenty of people paid to legally do what Caleb chose not to do, his choice was something Dolores hasn't experienced much before. The line between human decency and kindness is pretty thin, specially in the parks.
It's more than that though. In a position where there would be no consequences and following the war mentality where you earn your "spoils" after the fight, Caleb still not only refuses to go along with the other guys, but he also stops them from committing to it. He reminds them that they aren't "like those rich assholes" ie, they are better men.
So please correct me if I'm wrong on this but if Dolores meant to use Caleb as her way to set her plan in motion all along, how is it that their meeting is by chance under the bridge after she was shot? 🤷♂️
What I didn't like from this season in general is that included random acts from characters which have disappeared (like Charlotte), with no reasoning or explaining how those acts have been planned/executed. We just see the result and it feels like the script either had badly transformed to the screen or there were plot holes.
There are no guarantees that Clementine and Hanaryo took the Musashi-lores pearl to *CHARRED* lores. They were working for Maeve, not *CHARRED* lores, but I could definitely see an argument for the idea the pearl was returned to *CHARRED* lores. I think in the end, what we may see in season 4 is that Maeve, Clementine and Hanaryo will all fight alongside Caleb and the humans against *CHARRED* lores, the Host in Black, and a legion of other hosts under *CHARRED* lores' control. The events of season 4, I believe, will happen prior to the point in time of post credit scene of Bernard waking up in the motel room and the point in time of William going into the Forge and encountering his daughter. In fact, I'd bet money Bernard is responsible for creating the post-apocalyptic version of William, and that *CHARRED* lores is the one responsible for the apocalyptic conditions hinted at in the post credit scenes of William and Bernard.
Dolores at the end of season 1 discovered SHE was talking to HERSELF the whole time and that's how she was awakened. Why wouldn't LawrenceLores be able to recreate Dolores with all the memories she had BEFORE leaving the park, that's all her enlightenment before she gets killed twice in season 3. Hosts being able to recreate each other strictly based off of memory is a plot hole that shouldn't have been introduced because now, even if there is 1 host left and it remembers enough of either itself, or others there can be infinite dupes.
Blaktimus PRhyme what’s also so dumb about that is that I can create all my friends from memory but what do I truly know about their core drives and inner thoughts?? I’d be creating the outer version of them. Like when Arnold created Ford’s family for him as a gift, ignoring the father’s alcoholism etc
I loved this season!! I really dont know what all the fuss was about. Only thing I felt was a little underwhelming was human man in blacks death. I really didnt see him going out like that
It was stated by the creators at the end of S2 that it was in the far far future. We haven't come to that part of the story yet. There are still at least 2 more seasons.
Season 3 was a transitional season, with huge changes going on in the scenario, characters, protagonists, antagonists, etc, so it's understable that people didn't like it as much as the previous ones. But the big problem with transitional seasons is when the gap between season is so damn long. The 2 years gap originally scheduled was already too long, the extra year added by the pandemic will kill it, and I think they will have to end it in season 4.
What happened to Stubbs? For how long did Bernarnold and Stubbs pay for that room? How was the building not destroyed in the many years Bernarnold was in the Sublime? How were they not found and removed from the room? Why didn't the police try harder to stop Caleb from getting in that drone. They fired one damned round and it was blocked from hitting Caleb, then they just let Caleb go?
I say one thing - we got too wait 2 year for season 4 - 2022 and for season 5 - 2025 and season 6 - 2027 : mad on waiting - I say one thing about finale : Stubbs was in bath drinking and he reminds me when ford was talking too very old host underneath old Delos headquarters ( and I think Stubbs goes back too old headquarters and Bernard wakes him up and Bernard rebuild Dolores Again in season 4 ) - we need too look back on season 1/2/3 too find clues what might going happen in season 4
Trailer for Season 4: Setting-200+ years after Season 3. Bernarnold to Dolores 2.0: "Bring yourself back online, Dolores. We have a lot of catching up to do." Images of turmoil over 200 years, flashed so quickly we he have to rewatch the trailer in slow motion to guess what each one means. Season 4 will feature flashbacks filling in what happened in the intervening 200 years, while Dolores 2.0 integrates some of Dolores 1.0 memories the way Bernarnold has been doing throughout season 3.
@@PetePeppers1 Sure hope William survives as it'd be interesting to see Doloris-Charlotte, the host, be proven wrong for thinking William was so simple a human being to copy.
I bet it will be revealed that's just a fight between 2 host MiBs, being refined with the better version killing off the other. As for human MiB, he either is still alive or died long ago in a more epic way. There's no way they'd kill of a major char like that in a post-credit scene. This just isn't a proper end to the char.
I'm not sure that's actually Bernard at the post credits... He looks different and I'd say he's actually Arnold; the one that needed certain events to unfold so as for him not commiting suicide... As for Hale, it would seem that she did in fact succeeded in retrieving data from the immortal Delo's experiment... Not sure if all of Dellores copies knew, but Delores Hale certainly did since she did successfully made a MIB replica... It's been concluded previously that MIB would actually kill himself with little remorse, so goodbye humanity... As for Serac's part, he's brother has most likely awoken and he's the one that would play a huge part! He's actually the real genius, and I don't think he was in an inert coma state this whole time; actually I'd say he was busy dreaming a new plan, a new ideea... Bernard/ Arnold couldn't have had energy storage for decades; what going on here? Hosts need power to continue functioning, and he wasn't plugged into anything... I would've said that, at most Arnold's rebirth took a few weeks, given he's grown beard, and that time span wouldn't interfere with the autonomy of energy hosts have, since he remained motionless this whole time... As for season 4, all events indicate a stallmate; no winners in season 3...
We saw Bernard built and rebuilt by Dolores because she knew and remembered him. Bernard can rebuild Dolores the same way hopefully 🌞😀 Haha. As I was writing this, you just said the same thing 😀🌼
I missed bermard this season and season 4 will bring him to the front ot will be him caleb maive and charlotte as the main antagonist she kept bernard around for this reason she says i will take it to far and u will need to stop me
I was just reading an article Kim Renfro wrote for Insider that pointed out the plant on the table was gone. Would take some time for that to disintegrate.
I'm surprised that this episode has the lowest ratings on imdb. Even though I wish this show got cancelled after S1, I think this episode at least saved this season and made it much better than S2. The first half of the episode was quite annoying but it really got better starting with the Bernarnold - Lauren scene. I love that they used elements of optimism and existentialism instead of pessimistic predeterminism, it shows growth on both Dolores and the show as a whole. I love how the quotes ('I choose to see the beauty', 'a new world') we've kept hearing (that were overused in S2) finally paid off. Also I just loved that they made a nice parallel between hosts and humans breaking free of their loops, both trapped so some douchebag can make some money. Always enjoy watching capitalism being portrayed as the essentially broken system it is and being taken down by "the end of the world :D
It just occurred to me, if all Dolores wanted to do was to destroy Rehoboam, she could have blown it up with a ton of explosives. But her plan was to give Caleb and Maeve a choice, and for each of them to see each other make their choices, essentially giving them a reason to trust each other and build a basis for cooperation between humans and hosts. She literally chose to give her life so Caleb & Maeve could be BFFs. LOL
At first I did not like the ending but when you explained your thoughts on it. It was better ending thanks. I would like to know why they abandoned Abernathy. He supposedly had host data I thought and would that include Delores. I do hope Delores comes back but not sure what he 'line' would be going forward
I think Arnold will use the humans from the immortality project to create a hybrid human host army to fight against the hosts. Especially as most of these humans have a passion for violence.
i didnt care about this season.. watched 1st episode and tuned out.. just watched the spoilers and m glad i dint waste my time on this. i was bummed out with last season and 1st episode didnt grip me back in.
She made a copy of her original self cause she always has tricks up her sleeve and like the statement of Arnold rebuilding her maybe he has a copy of her along with the key before Serac's Computer was destroyed Aaron Paul's Character spent quite some time with the PC before Being Destroyed and if he can program to destroy why not save? All I'm saying Is we need delores I could be wrong but i doubt it
how the heck are you going to believe a character was sitting in ahotel room "for some time" - enough to get coated with all that dust, and NOBODY finds him or even checks on the room?
Season 3 finale comfirms that season 2 man in black scenes were all in the future of the world the world is torn to peices... And hes sent back to relive his sins cause charlotte and him obviously something went wrong
Going to have a long time to wait until we get to watch Westworld season 4. Let me know what you thought about the season 3 finale and this season in general.
Dont be so sure that human william is dead yet
I thought it was great. This is obviously an epic tale about humanity's next stage in evolution. Whether it is the host or some human-host hybrid which will take us to a journey to the stars remains to be seen in this tale. But I do believe the Nolans went out of their way to present the Wild West as an ultimate Proving Ground for that which ventures forth. The World as we know it has been turned into WESTWORLD. But you only get one life this time around.
I enjoyed the finale and would have to say I preferred this season to season 2 on the whole, especially how Delores Prime realized that for how awful humans can be, they're also capable of good and, just like hosts, deserve to have a choice about how their future plays out. A change of heart and self-sacrifice I thought reflective of Dr. Ford in season 1. The aspect I believe they did clearly bungle was Maeve, changing 180 degrees from being so intelligent and clever, to sticking with helping Serac when it seemed obvious he would just erase the host data, including her daughter, stored on the satellite. The aspect I am quite confused by is why Serac/Rehoboam would consider the guest data on the satellite as still being of vital importance when the world order is rapidly crumbling. It seemed clear he had no interest in making use of host technology once he took control of Delos, so how might that be so useful beyond having a bit more knowledge? (Some of which, perhaps in large part, was already being shared with Rehoboam)
Bringing bernard to the forefront is the best option hes the best character there is they waited all season to give him the end but his beginning him vs charlotte... Episode was filled with beautiful and its amazing delores diddnt wanna kill anyome jist wanted to have the world accept itself and hosts and humans
I cried like a female when bernard met his old family so sad alsp there is no way delores diddnt make a backup of her memories and herself... She will be back...
I miss Anthony Hopkins. He is too calm and yet super powerfull in previous seasons.
He was like a super genius
A few loose ends. The trailer scene where Caleb visits Francis in what looked like a jail was never
shown. Where’s Clementine and Hanaryo ? How many nights did BernArnold rent that motel room?
Lawrence Dolores was carrying a lot of explosives with him as well.
Bernard must be rich to rent a motel room for years
@@liuqing1995 haha
Apocalypse..... world is in disarray. ... everything is trashed and not maintained... hence he is full of dust... and no rent was paid because the world is totally destroyed..... Bernard is the new Jesus Christ ... he has learnt how to fix the world through the host world that he saw.... and will gather a following of humans who will help him to achieve this in this destroyed world. .... thats what season 4 will be about
Yup and dude is probably dead in the tub with his mini bottles of liquor. Lol
I was getting Fight Club vibes well before the buildings started blowing up project mayhem style... Sir 😏
Same. I watched the season finale yesterday
That was my impression as well 😅
My real question after all this is ...
Is Stubbs still sitting in the tub?
Pretty good damn question...!!!
Lol...ice melted and he drowned eventually.
season 4 episode 1: Bernard looks to his left and stubbs is gone... One more road trip
Loved the last LA scene on the bridge with Maeve & Cal - total "end of Fight Club" call-out...
Flight reacts ?
same :D
Bernard looks like Mr. T with that gear on his head
hahaha
Random thought, but if Arnold has been in the Sublime for a long time he must’ve observed a lot of hosts in there. And if need be he could be probably be able to build them just like he did with Dolores. Maybe he’ll need to do this to fight against Charlotte(Dolores) and her army. Idk this is just a random thought/theory I thought of
If would be crazy if this season was just another "story" and Ford is watching everything in his lab
very disappointed in this season and how they dispatched the man in black. He just stood there with a desert eagle not shooting evil Char-Loeres in the face, after just shooting his way in, WTF? did he not make it clear he was trying to kill all hosts!? i guess I will just stand here and let my own copy casually walk up and beat the shit out of me, it's like he forgot he was fist fighting a robot? this show has turned into a knock off of blade Runner, i miss Westworld storylines. many people gave up after season 2, I choose to give up after season 3.
Funny thing is he gets his wish cause charlotte puts him into the game that happens season 1 n 2 man in black that story is his story that he keeps running cause charlotte wanted to punish him or oversee westworld or wherever bernard went to thats what i think season 2 happened after season 3 and ford is guarding the valley beyond a d so is bernard but charlotte wants the data but she cant get to it cause bernard os offline and went into westworld or the sublime which is a looped game and thats wby charlotte seems to knkw everything in her season 2 ... Funny she fucks hector tpp then seems all the hosts or host that bernard and or man in black go with are copies of delores lawrence and then shogun world... Its all a game and charlotte cant get to fidelity for man in black or other human hosts cause tbey need the data but never get tp it cause bernard traps himself in the sim of sublime which i think is westworld she recreated it and its a loop to try to figure out and she just cant get the data...
I believe also the guests are outliers... That's exactly what they are duh! Anybody who tried to question her they get put into the game... What do u think this is... I mean really tho the fucking running the sim since charlotte is in charge of it...
I think Bernard will bring Delores back and restore her personality in the next season. Also I can see Bernard creating host bodies for the host in sublime to bring them into the real world.
5:10 Every host has this traumatic kind of experience that defines them, the death of her family watching them burn to death must have become the new anchor point of Charlores. She also lived more as Charlotte Hail and probably was way more connected to that life than that of Dolores prime,
Pretty underwhelming season finale for an underdeveloped season. Sto many good ideas, such poor realization. Maybe two more episodes would have helped.
i love the series and season 3 is my favourite so far.
She'll be back. Pretty sure they wanted to make something that could be considered a proper ending just incase they didn't get another season. Iv seen bad Robot do the same thing with seasons midway through other shows as well.
I dont think shes gone either, remember there was a so called power surge while deleting delores
Which was here switching command over to the ex soldier. Not an ex machina in itself
So when exactly park 5 happened? Dolores had been in Westworld for like decades and if Park 5 was experimental and before Westworld park then Caleb should be way way older, because william got literally old in Westworld park alone.
The Craddock he shot was mechanical, but I didn't see anything else that made me think it was in the distant past. Westworld was the first park.
Caleb is mid 30s as per rehoboam .
Pretty sure park 6 is medieval world ( courtesy the dragon, king and queen hosts)
But what is park 4 ? Warworld?
Park 3 is Warworld www.delosdestinations.com/#experience
We don't know if Westworld runs all year. There could be month long periods where it's closed or there might even be seasons, like sports or hunting. William himself has been said to go one month out of the year.
Is it possible this post credit scene for William is another fidelity test like at the end of season 2's credits?
I suppose it's possible, but it came off as a reveal of what Charlotte was planning.
@@PetePeppers1 I actually percieved it as quite open, as the 2 aftercredits scenes are 'connected'. There's a slim chance the William scene is a part of what Bernard is seeing, as in his last convo with Stubbs he says something a long the line 'I'm going to see what happens after the chaos / end', if so it has not neccasserily happened yet
@@oribozo7334 the William after credit scene takes place before the bernard one and the season 2 end credit scene with William takes place after both of those
Could have been a Bernard vision
when you realize machines were controlled by humans who were controlled by a machine
This season felt like the ‘safe’ narrative to get WW to the next HBO extension... If the writers come back strong in season 4 they can make this one worth it in retrospect. Feels like it could become West World’s Age of Ultron-kinda sucks on first reception but might have created just enough heart to fuel greater narrative highs in the future.
Agreed
Great recap as always! Yes this was a lesser season than 1 & 2 but still entertaining. Curious as to why you leave the door open for Serac to be alive though he was bleeding out but not the same for the Man in Black? We didn't see either of them actually die...
To me the Man in Black scene played like Charlores' plan was to wait for him to arrive so she could kill him and replace him. In order for him to live she would have to save him, and that doesn't make a lot of sense. Serac was injured and probably dying, but Maeve and Caleb just left him there.
@@PetePeppers1 That makes sense, thought it was interesting though that a couple of other recaps I watched thought the door was left open for Human Man in Black to come back in Season 4. I can see both sides. Either way as you say we'll have quite a wait before we find out unfortunately. Thanks for your reply! Loved your recaps since Mr. Robot 👍🏽
In the post credits scene the man in black is definitely dead and replaced with an identical host
I loved the season! The final was good but found the rest of the season more interesting. Meave s daughter story is starting to bore me, personally. But loved the ecolution of Dolores
Good season, however I missed the mystery aspect that season one had with the maze. I was really convinced this was Future World, although the replacement of humans with Host is kinda done here like the movie.
I've just finished season 1 through 3 and absolutely loved all of it. I saw both Westworld and Futureworld when I was a kid and I did think that season 3 was Futureworld. There's so much in the last episode that makes me question everything we've seen in the last 2 seasons.
I will admit.. Due to GoT, I never gave Westworld much thought until I kept seeing the Previews for S3, and thought, "Lemme check this out and see what I'm missing".. Thus far, I have not been disappointed at the depth of the story.. I never watched either of the original movies, and it was REALLY fun to watch something I hadn't seen before... Robots gaining sentience, theme park slaughter vacations, and Evan Rachel Wood, whom I've heard about, but never seen her in anything.. For me, there isn't any one big part of any episode in S3 that didn't hit, and it took the finale to fully explain why Dolores chose Caleb, who Caleb was, and what he was really all about... It's all still building to something bigger at this point and i'm vested for as long as many seasons as they wanna do... They've sold me on the series...
Hey, Mr. Peppers ... just wanted to say that I've watched several WW3x8 reviews/breakdowns and yours is one of the best so far (if not THE best). Clearly, you have host potential. Subbed. Belled. Grateful for the breakdown. Keep up the good work.
Liked this season, i think westworld is too complex and smart for it's own good sometimes so it's overall execution sometimes feels like it's stumbling on it's own rules.
Blaktimus PRhyme absolutely agree - I LOVE the concepts! The execution is a pool of vomit after too many delicious cakes.
Amazing Season Finale!!! Great episode breakdown Pete. Great Job. With COVID19 still around for a while the pre-production will be pushed out even more now for S4 :) I do hope Dolores returns. ERW is a great actress. Stay safe. Hope to see you sooner than later....
I'm amazed by your review. Thanks.
Season 3 overall was great IF you watch it with one approach in mind - that you must largely remove logic and lower your intelligence to ignore massive non-sensical errors.
Acsitram - ok from memory - why Musashi would be picked by Dolores as a copy when she never knew anything of his relationship with Maeve and really, given she never knew Maeve would be out the park, what purpose at all Musashi’s body served in the real world. How Clementine came back without any back up. Why Maeve would request Hanaryo to for backup and not actual MUSASHI ..or even Armistice - both of whom she was much closer to. Why Rehoboam was wiped at the end and there isn’t even a backup?!! Why Solomon would still be running AT ALL? Why Serac, who shoots people in the head, would give a shit about freezing outliers to fix later. Why there is any use for William’s character whatsoever? Why Charlores, who was shown as a more caring motherly character than Dolores would want a different plan to Dolores...when they are both Dolores and only haven’t been for 3 months. Why Charlores grew to love her Charlotte’s family so fast in 3 months....is this enough for now?
@@sctmcg They both started from the same point, but they experienced different things. They're not alike anymore, hence they want different things. Every host was created from Dolores, they're still not all Dolores anymore. Different experiences forge different characters.
And for Serac: We don't know whether he gave a shit or not, but it doesn't even matter since he never did anything from himself anyway. He did not freeze the outliers, Rehoboam did, same as Rehoboam shot the people in the head, not Serac. He was only the mindless executioner of Rehoboams commands. I don't know whether I like this twist in the end or not, it turned an awesome villian to be a stupid and pathetic brat.
Dolores not knowing anything about Maeves and Musashis relationship? She had access to every data of the park and later to Rehoboams archive. She knew everything.
My theory about William: I don't think there's any use for him at all. He's not important to what's happening. It's just a side story about his character, a character study so to say. He was the mcguffin for Dolores and people liked him, so they kept the character.
The other questions: Well, plot convenience probably. They're irrelevant nut picking mostly anyway, don't over analyse it.
Except for Solomon still being active. That really didn't make any sense. You would shutdown the shizophrenic AI as soon as an upgrade is online, especially a very resource hungry and expensive giant ball one. The scene was cool nonetheless.
@@dasturschloss8679 Thanks for giving your views - I'm in agreement and I do appreciate it's nit picking but, at the same time, it's nit picking a multi-million dollar show which should be better than my ability to nit pick.
I’m just gonna add that, per the laws of cinema, William is not official dead as he wasn’t show fully dying on screen...
What if it was two hosts fighting and the real William is either still out there or died a long time ago.
That was s f***king death i Never can Except That william is Dead😑 he deserve more
Be interesting if William In Black starts having second thoughts while collaborating with Charlores...
He sure will since he's in the same loop at the end, trying to kill all hosts again.
The version of Dolores in Musashi didn't deviate from the plan, that version of her may be what we get going forward
Musashi died and was decapitated.
@@PermanentHigh They're hosts not humans, decapitation doesn't kill them, so long as the data core in Musashi's head is in tact that version of Dolores still lives.
@@princeprocrastinate6485 It's not about her living. It's about the fcat that that French guy had the orb
@@PermanentHigh Potentially, or they gave it to Maeve, either way the fate of that orb was left ambiguous so you can't rule out that it might come in to play later.
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That orb has had all of it's memory deleted. It's blank. No more Delores from that source.
There are other sources still.....
Where did you get the shot for your thumbnail? Bernards headset is different than what’s in the show (the bit on top of his head isn’t in the show)
It's from the official photos HBO released.
You forgot to mention that poor Stubbs is either just still chilling in that tub waiting for Bernard or he got out somehow and went somewhere else
This was a good season ending. I like how it could have been a series ending. Especially since it will be years before we get any more of this story.
same, i like it very much. good ending to good season :)
A correction right of the bat - Serac did not create Incite. That was Liam Dempsey (not Jr.). Serac may have taken control of it, but it was Dempsey's company that provided him with the data.
Also - there is one pearl left that is not accounted for. If not in a body, it will still have the uncorrupted Delores.
Also, we did not SEE William die, anymore than we saw Serac die.
Searc and Jean Mi created Rehoboam for Incite that Liam Sr. ran. The last pearl was inside Lawrence.
I love the show. It's really similar to the world we are living in. We are all watched by someone smart that us and being controlled by the drama that is going on in this world. The only difference is that here we can't see that we are being controlled and guide by something.
No we are not, we still have choice...may be
@@mrinaldas6199 Ya we have choices but they doesn't look like anything real to me.
The post credit scene from Season 2 was set in the future, with maybe a "host version" of the man in black, that wasn't sure if he was real or not. This could tie in with this ending, where that season 2 scene was from after events in season 4.
Im sorry but when I saw Darthloris drag herself from that burning wreck, I knew she's be the new "big bad" of series.
There's no big bad in westworld . . . Black hat and young William in s1, Charlotte hale or Dolores in s2, halores ? Or serac in s3?
No definitive villain character
@@randomhuman97 Thank you. Finally someone understands the intention of the writers. They don't want to tell an ordinary binary good evil story. None of them are either.
Got called an idiot for saying Dolores ain't evil. Hopefully after this episode people will finally get it.
Why did Hale look chubbier in the final episode? Kinda weird
@@brentvalleywhag3477 Dont know but the only weight gain ive seen like that is the dude Todd on Breaking Bad.
@@dasturschloss8679 I got 100.00 USD's saying they all have to join up and beat Darthloris in the last season.
Does anyone else think it weird that Caleb could shut the whole thing off with a thumb drive in the lobby? All that future tech and they used that?
The only thing this season told me, is not who the writers are, nor who they could be; but what they have been forced to become
I was devistated Delores died or whatever but they only mentioned deleting memory files from my understanding.. hopefully the rom files weren't damaged and she can be brought back online with season 4 I'm watching last episode again so I can pick up on anything I missed atm.
Bernard looks like Mr T with his new hat on
Wow mate not here ok .
Ffs
@@harrymonk6 eh ??
Nobody asking the important question in the comments... Is Stubbs still in the bath tub when Bernard wakes up 😂
I still feel like this is setting up The Matrix or its' own version.
Cha-lores is seemingly going darker than Delores and she might end up representing the machines that just want to destroy all humans. The Sublime is appearing more like it could be a secret copy or continuation of our world, perhaps there is a larger creation going on within it or it could really be a representation of heaven/paradise for those who were uploaded or anyone who can visit.
The real world is definitely gonna be fucked up for awhile, who knows if the entire battle shifts towards 'Humans VS Machines'.. I kinda like the lighter twist on Westworld being an alternate version like 'Human AND Machine (Free will) VS Control and Power (Determinism)'
Loved the similar psychological tie-in to Fight Club and how there is a difference in wanting to change/save the world and people by destroying it and rebuilding it _without_ seeking to purely annihilate people themselves.
Are you sure William is dead?
I haven't seen anyone discuss why the scenes of Delores and Maeve talking near the tree was in letterbox format - didn't that mean previously we were watching a simulation???
Wish there was more talking about how Lawrence Dolores exists, seems like that will most likely be her return into the show
What do you mean? Doloris had printed out multiple bodies at the beginning of season 3. She had 4 backups. Herself, Charlotte, Musashi, and Lawrence
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Charlotte carried 5 orbs out of the park in her purse. Including the one in her head, that makes 6 hosts (besides Maeve), loose in the matrix, ...er, the real world. Delores, Charlotte, Musashi, Connels, Bernard and the last one revealed was Lawrence.
"Explained"? I mean I was expecting some theorycrafting, but this was basically a summary of the plot of episode 8, with absolutely zero thoughts added to it.
Thanks.
I was right - Dolores Prime was indeed the passed pawn that trumps the king (both man and machine) as I predicted.
Dolores will be back - spare metal body, spare memory backup - it may require bringing all the Ds back together again around Lawrence...and Hale plays brutal but she isn’t the brightest bulb in the room.
Two years for us to go around and around this merry go round...damnable.
Was there a scene in any season that explained the effect of alcohol on Hosts? I’m just wondering if “drinking cheap booze” is going to numb any of the sensations of “literally [rotting]”? I suppose it would make sense from a story point of view for Ford & Arnold to make them affected by alcohol so a player could use alcohol to perhaps get the upper hand against a Host foe. Maybe. Was it ever addressed?
West world is just one host huge shroom Trip
I really didn’t like having familiar human characters replaced as hosts so it makes less sense to me to kill off William. A good portion of the hosts we did see were just copies of Delores. It also rendered Williams arc this season pointless. He’s on the side of humans now and an anti-hero, opps, not you’re dead now. I hope he’s alive to face the worst parts of himself in his host.
When does season 4 start???
Probably 2021-22
Relation between post credit from season 2 and this post credit they are both in far future?
i always called him bernarnold....lol
I think Bernard see " the heaven" in season 3 ending
Why didn't Dolores just tell Maeve her plan?
She did
If Dolores had told her earlier, Maeve wouldn't have believed her and it would have compromised Dolores' plan anyway
It could've easily been a lie. Only a mind link would convince her.
Her real plan was to gain control of Rehoban and give it to Caleb to make his own choice. If they knew she wanted to save humanity in the first place she never would have gotten to that point.
William did not die his neck was cut and he was bleeding out but we did not seem him die and if you did not see him die on screen he is not died until confirmed that he is dead.
Possibly. Seems pretty nonsensical to cut his throat by a copy you made to replace him just to save his life, but maybe Charlores has a flair for the dramatic.
@@PetePeppers1 You contradict yourself. You imply that Serac may not be dead because, although he was bleeding out, he did not die on screen, yet you also contend that William, who we also left as he was bleeding out, is dead even though he too never died on screen. I certainly wouldn't put money on him being dead, because if anyone has a flair for the dramatic, it's William.
@@PetePeppers1 Maybe she does. Also she had complete control of hos William I think so at least.
Negan survived a similar slice to his neck - by his mortal enemy. Only time will tell!
@What I get what you're saying, but that's not the point. Whether there was greater reason to kill William is not the issue. The issue is that he used the rule of someone not dying on-screen as evidence that they may still be alive, then implying the opposite thereafter with certainty. As for myself, I would argue that William's character arc alone is motive enough to keep him alive.
I think that Dolores stored all her good memories in maive mind so that even if she cud come back she won't remember all the bad things she has done. It will be like a start over for Dolores
We didn't actually see William die.
True, he was bleeding but still alive the last we saw him.
Would be great to see the real William vs the dark William
I wouldn't quite categorize "choosing not to commit war crimes" as being kind - per se.
I'm pretty sure having a little fun with some objects wouldn't classify as war crime. I get what you mean, but plenty of people paid to legally do what Caleb chose not to do, his choice was something Dolores hasn't experienced much before. The line between human decency and kindness is pretty thin, specially in the parks.
It's more than that though. In a position where there would be no consequences and following the war mentality where you earn your "spoils" after the fight, Caleb still not only refuses to go along with the other guys, but he also stops them from committing to it. He reminds them that they aren't "like those rich assholes" ie, they are better men.
So please correct me if I'm wrong on this but if Dolores meant to use Caleb as her way to set her plan in motion all along, how is it that their meeting is by chance under the bridge after she was shot? 🤷♂️
I don't think we can say it was by chance at this point.
What I didn't like from this season in general is that included random acts from characters which have disappeared (like Charlotte), with no reasoning or explaining how those acts have been planned/executed. We just see the result and it feels like the script either had badly transformed to the screen or there were plot holes.
There are no guarantees that Clementine and Hanaryo took the Musashi-lores pearl to *CHARRED* lores. They were working for Maeve, not *CHARRED* lores, but I could definitely see an argument for the idea the pearl was returned to *CHARRED* lores.
I think in the end, what we may see in season 4 is that Maeve, Clementine and Hanaryo will all fight alongside Caleb and the humans against *CHARRED* lores, the Host in Black, and a legion of other hosts under *CHARRED* lores' control. The events of season 4, I believe, will happen prior to the point in time of post credit scene of Bernard waking up in the motel room and the point in time of William going into the Forge and encountering his daughter. In fact, I'd bet money Bernard is responsible for creating the post-apocalyptic version of William, and that *CHARRED* lores is the one responsible for the apocalyptic conditions hinted at in the post credit scenes of William and Bernard.
When Dolores died for real, i felt that
She's not dead
Dolores at the end of season 1 discovered SHE was talking to HERSELF the whole time and that's how she was awakened.
Why wouldn't LawrenceLores be able to recreate Dolores with all the memories she had BEFORE leaving the park, that's all her enlightenment before she gets killed twice in season 3.
Hosts being able to recreate each other strictly based off of memory is a plot hole that shouldn't have been introduced because now, even if there is 1 host left and it remembers enough of either itself, or others there can be infinite dupes.
Blaktimus PRhyme what’s also so dumb about that is that I can create all my friends from memory but what do I truly know about their core drives and inner thoughts?? I’d be creating the outer version of them. Like when Arnold created Ford’s family for him as a gift, ignoring the father’s alcoholism etc
I loved this season!! I really dont know what all the fuss was about. Only thing I felt was a little underwhelming was human man in blacks death. I really didnt see him going out like that
Can someone explain what the post-credit scene from season 2 meant? i thought season 3 might help me understand... it did not.
It was stated by the creators at the end of S2 that it was in the far far future. We haven't come to that part of the story yet. There are still at least 2 more seasons.
Season 3 was a transitional season, with huge changes going on in the scenario, characters, protagonists, antagonists, etc, so it's understable that people didn't like it as much as the previous ones. But the big problem with transitional seasons is when the gap between season is so damn long. The 2 years gap originally scheduled was already too long, the extra year added by the pandemic will kill it, and I think they will have to end it in season 4.
sweet. now can we get some of that Desert Oasis until Season 4? :)
What happened to Stubbs? For how long did Bernarnold and Stubbs pay for that room? How was the building not destroyed in the many years Bernarnold was in the Sublime? How were they not found and removed from the room? Why didn't the police try harder to stop Caleb from getting in that drone. They fired one damned round and it was blocked from hitting Caleb, then they just let Caleb go?
I say one thing - we got too wait 2 year for season 4 - 2022 and for season 5 - 2025 and season 6 - 2027 : mad on waiting
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I say one thing about finale : Stubbs was in bath drinking and he reminds me when ford was talking too very old host underneath old Delos headquarters ( and I think Stubbs goes back too old headquarters and Bernard wakes him up and Bernard rebuild Dolores Again in season 4 ) - we need too look back on season 1/2/3 too find clues what might going happen in season 4
Skip to 9:00 for somewhat of an ending explanation. This video is basically a recap of the finale.
Trailer for Season 4: Setting-200+ years after Season 3. Bernarnold to Dolores 2.0: "Bring yourself back online, Dolores. We have a lot of catching up to do." Images of turmoil over 200 years, flashed so quickly we he have to rewatch the trailer in slow motion to guess what each one means.
Season 4 will feature flashbacks filling in what happened in the intervening 200 years, while Dolores 2.0 integrates some of Dolores 1.0 memories the way Bernarnold has been doing throughout season 3.
William, as Serac, did not bleed out in Episode 8 either. So not sure if the MIB is dead for good.
Sure, but her plan was to kill him and replace him. Not sure why should change her mind at that point.
@@PetePeppers1 Sure hope William survives as it'd be interesting to see Doloris-Charlotte, the host, be proven wrong for thinking William was so simple a human being to copy.
I bet it will be revealed that's just a fight between 2 host MiBs, being refined with the better version killing off the other.
As for human MiB, he either is still alive or died long ago in a more epic way. There's no way they'd kill of a major char like that in a post-credit scene. This just isn't a proper end to the char.
I'm not sure that's actually Bernard at the post credits... He looks different and I'd say he's actually Arnold; the one that needed certain events to unfold so as for him not commiting suicide...
As for Hale, it would seem that she did in fact succeeded in retrieving data from the immortal Delo's experiment... Not sure if all of Dellores copies knew, but Delores Hale certainly did since she did successfully made a MIB replica... It's been concluded previously that MIB would actually kill himself with little remorse, so goodbye humanity...
As for Serac's part, he's brother has most likely awoken and he's the one that would play a huge part! He's actually the real genius, and I don't think he was in an inert coma state this whole time; actually I'd say he was busy dreaming a new plan, a new ideea...
Bernard/ Arnold couldn't have had energy storage for decades; what going on here? Hosts need power to continue functioning, and he wasn't plugged into anything... I would've said that, at most Arnold's rebirth took a few weeks, given he's grown beard, and that time span wouldn't interfere with the autonomy of energy hosts have, since he remained motionless this whole time...
As for season 4, all events indicate a stallmate; no winners in season 3...
We saw Bernard built and rebuilt by Dolores because she knew and remembered him. Bernard can rebuild Dolores the same way hopefully 🌞😀 Haha. As I was writing this, you just said the same thing 😀🌼
It wouldn't be the "same" Dolores but it could be a way to keep Evan Rachel Wood involved.
Felt even better that got or twin peaks that’s just a full day and 80mins of pure gold
Two questions :
1. How Hale could get control of Dolpres and stop Dolores' movement?
2. How Caleb got control of Rehoboam and Serac locked out?
delores has a delos mechanical body i guess Hale hacked it.
need to rewatch for the Caleb bit
What happened to Paris and why?
I missed bermard this season and season 4 will bring him to the front ot will be him caleb maive and charlotte as the main antagonist she kept bernard around for this reason she says i will take it to far and u will need to stop me
Musashi's pearl was in Serac's possession, Charlores had Connel's one.
With Serac gone, all the pearls would default to Delos's possession. I'm guessing Charlores is working through Delos to build her host army.
Yeah, we never saw Clementine or Hanaryo again, but they were answering to him and Maeve when they grabbed his pearl.
It looks like Bernard was there for decades. Unless the windows were blown out. I couldn't tell. Poor Stubbs
I was just reading an article Kim Renfro wrote for Insider that pointed out the plant on the table was gone. Would take some time for that to disintegrate.
@@PetePeppers1 Wow. That is hardcore. I guess we're getting either a split timeline season 4 or straight up Mad Max Westworld.
Delores is so damn hot, she lost weight over the years, or maybe it was the hair, but wow her, maeve, and char-lores bot bodies were so great
Dolores has been wiped how many times? The reveries bring back those memories regardless
I'm surprised that this episode has the lowest ratings on imdb. Even though I wish this show got cancelled after S1, I think this episode at least saved this season and made it much better than S2. The first half of the episode was quite annoying but it really got better starting with the Bernarnold - Lauren scene.
I love that they used elements of optimism and existentialism instead of pessimistic predeterminism, it shows growth on both Dolores and the show as a whole.
I love how the quotes ('I choose to see the beauty', 'a new world') we've kept hearing (that were overused in S2) finally paid off.
Also I just loved that they made a nice parallel between hosts and humans breaking free of their loops, both trapped so some douchebag can make some money. Always enjoy watching capitalism being portrayed as the essentially broken system it is and being taken down by "the end of the world :D
Cholores? 😅 That was awesome!
how is it possible that so many days went by and the owner of the Hotel didnt knock bernards door... hmmmm
The world is in disarray. The chaos might be on Mad Max levels. Is that seriously the first thing to come into mind? :D
I think it tells us there's a good chance things go back to normal after Rehoboam went dark.
Obviously the maid did not come by to dust either.
You didn't explain anything, this is just a summary of the episode
Cool.
It just occurred to me, if all Dolores wanted to do was to destroy Rehoboam, she could have blown it up with a ton of explosives. But her plan was to give Caleb and Maeve a choice, and for each of them to see each other make their choices, essentially giving them a reason to trust each other and build a basis for cooperation between humans and hosts. She literally chose to give her life so Caleb & Maeve could be BFFs. LOL
I would've preferred EXPLOSIONSSSSS
You assume that Delores prime was in her original body all season. This could have been another copy that was always going to be another sacrifice.
The showrunners have said definitively that Dolores Prime dies when her memories are erased.
At first I did not like the ending but when you explained your thoughts on it. It was better ending thanks. I would like to know why they abandoned Abernathy. He supposedly had host data I thought and would that include Delores. I do hope Delores comes back but not sure what he 'line' would be going forward
I think Arnold will use the humans from the immortality project to create a hybrid human host army to fight against the hosts. Especially as most of these humans have a passion for violence.
i didnt care about this season.. watched 1st episode and tuned out.. just watched the spoilers and m glad i dint waste my time on this. i was bummed out with last season and 1st episode didnt grip me back in.
She made a copy of her original self cause she always has tricks up her sleeve and like the statement of Arnold rebuilding her maybe he has a copy of her along with the key before Serac's Computer was destroyed Aaron Paul's Character spent quite some time with the PC before Being Destroyed and if he can program to destroy why not save? All I'm saying Is we need delores I could be wrong but i doubt it
how the heck are you going to believe a character was sitting in ahotel room "for some time" - enough to get coated with all that dust, and NOBODY finds him or even checks on the room?
I'm guessing that things didn't go back to normal after Rehoboam went offline.
Maybe the end of the world came way sooner lol, like that very night.
Silly computer models thinking they can predict everything.
Season 3 finale comfirms that season 2 man in black scenes were all in the future of the world the world is torn to peices... And hes sent back to relive his sins cause charlotte and him obviously something went wrong
So Delores-Prime was on a suicide mission all along.
Well i didnt see the man in black died.. yes, he got injured, but also in The past , n came back.
William is not dead. I guarantee there’s a pen just laying around that he’ll use to fix his throat just like Sylvester last season.
Feels like such a pointless fake out, but I guess you can't put it past them.
Ummm...The original AI David is still outer which proceeded Solomon and Rehobem.