Great to see someone looking at these older xeons from 2000 series on a x79, I personally used an E5 2630 bought for around 2 euros with a cheap msi board and 16gb in quad channel and was super happy with its performance, many games performed much better than I expected from such a low clocked cpu. Nice video, thank you and i'm waiting for more. 👍
@@anxiety1209 I bought the motherboard at a bargain, on a local auction site, I use it to this day with xeon e5 1650v2 and I am 100% satisfied with it. Talking about msi x79a-gd45 8d. 8D is responsible for 8 memory banks :P
@@werwito6723 thanks for the info i took a look at it there was only one listing of that motherboard someone is selling it for 200$ but I ain't buying a 200$ motherboard for a 10$ cpu lmao i think I'll be going the Chinese motherboard route 😅
A 10-core or even 12-core only costs a few bucks more. A whole used workstation system from your local e-waste recycler would cost about the same price as just the motherboard alone from a build... and would guarantee stuff like quad-channel RAM support, that most of those Ali Express motherboards lack... look for an HP Z420, or the Dell or Lenovo equivalents. The conclusion at the end of the video about making the leap to Haswell based V3 Xeon's on "X99" platform instead of "X79" is correct. The jump in IPC, core count, DDR4, AVX2, etc., is all worth paying slightly more. An HP Z440 workstation, with a 16-core Xeon 2698 V3 @ 3.6GHz Turbo, and 64 GB of Quad-channel DDR4 ECC server RAM, plus a cheapo SSD boot drive, can all be had for below $200 USD. Drop in your flavour of GPU to make it a beast gaming rig... Or drop in a bunch of hard drives to make it a home server... or both.
I've always wondered how the E5-2630 v3 compares to this and the other budget chips tested today. Here in the USA they can be had for the same price as the 2670, but it's on the X99 platform. A quick look at PassMark shows a 15% faster single thread, lower rated TDP of 85W, and a 15% better all core score. It does have lower cache and lower clock speeds, but I think the comparison would be interesting.
i love the thought of pairing this with an old rx 580 or something and being able to play basically any game you want, very impressive stuff from the cheap cpu
I just upgraded from a 1200 to a 3600x, I hope I didn’t get scammed, or else I’ll have to cry in my room and watch your videos all day until I have more money
I'd be very interested in seeing an E5-2698v3 tested. It's a 16C/32T Haswell Xeon (2011v3) that can be had for $40 nowadays. I suspect it would be solid in both gaming and workstation tasks.
It's crazy how in 2005 my first computer was a 500MHz Pentium 3 with 128MB of RAM that could barely run Windows XP. Now even if you're completely strapped for cash, you can easily get a quad core Core i5 Haswell system or something that is not only useable but actually pretty good for most tasks.
Great video! and btw, one really small correction at 00:46, Intel has been making 8 core server CPUs from way back to March 2010, when they launched Beckton, based on the Nehalem microarchitecture at 45nm, and then next year with Westmere-EX they even bumped it to 10 cores on 32nm
I splurged for a Xeon E5-2689, stuck it in a Shenzhen Special X79 board, added 64 GB of ECC RAM (for which I paid less than US$20), added a used RX580 and a mid-range 1TB NVMe SSD, hooked it all to used Seasonic 600W PSU, added a fan and a CPU cooler, installed one of the less annoying Linux distros, found a class-compatible Focusrite recording interface, and I have a very capable workstation for Kdenlive, Blender, Ardour, Darktable, some development tools, and lots of other things for less than US$500. Runs the few games I play these days fairly well.
you know, you making this video was great since i have a literal pile of E5-2620's in my closet, the 2620 is a 6 core, where the 2670 is 8 cores. I remember getting them for cheap paying around $5 a piece in an auction. so this video is a great way to see roughly what single core performance i could expect from them
nice video. I have a complain, your new graphs and font are so tiny, basically unreadable when watching below 720p. (I have a terrible adsl connection, sorry! 360p it is...) also, the white outline of 1% low number is horrible to look at even at 1080p, remove it if possible.
You should do a whole video on throttle stop and any other "not overclocking" things you use. As someone who does a lot of buying in the old Intel space it would be really nice to know how to "overclock" locked chips
I would say the E5-2667 v1 and v2 would be the more interesting CPUs to test, they have high base frequency (v1-2.90/v2-3.30ghz) and high turbo (v1-3.50/v2-4.0ghz). The v1 is a 6-core and the v2 is a 8-core, the v2 is around $18-20 though so its definitely worth a look. The v2 also has 25MB of cache, so it should really be a gaming monster!
I've had one of these for a while running in my server and I couldn't be happier with it. Got it paired with 128gb of ram running tons of stuff from minecraft servers to discord bots.
I don't know the $ to € conversion, but isn't that the same cost as the E5-2673v3 nowadays? and people do some trickery to get those on unlimited turbo boost somehow. EDIT: ah, you kind of mentioned the x99 at the end. you know, the devil's E5-2666v3 with turbo boot unlock was all the rage during the pandemic, you might like to try that one.
x79 can usually do all-core turbo all-the-time with just a single bios setting, so it's great for a simple ultra-budget build. IMO additional price for x99 doesn't make sense, if your local market has halfway decent pricing for used AM4.
@@AAjax yeah, I mentioned AM4 in another comment, but Idk, there was some price pressure on the cheap AM4 mobos because of all the interest last time I checked. but those APU are unbeatable when it comes to not needing a low tier card for decent performance.
The bench mark part is kinda misleading. They were never made for gaming, they can be on par with some CPU or what ever, but the deal with "old server parts" is getting: 42 physical CPU cores, 84 HT cores, 960GB of DDR4 ECC ram, two 4x1GB NIC, and two 2x10Gbps NIC for £450 MSRP is £13500 10 years ago Just 960GB of DDR4 non ECC ram today is around £1300 The raw multi core performance when it comes to numbers is worth it, the amount of RAM you can get for cheap is mindbogglingly, networking if you just look at numbers is 48Gbps A top of the line CPU will struggle a bit with just a 10Gbps line, having to share that to one or two stations will maybe give you 2.5Gbps to them. having 512 or 796GB of ram at your disposal will greatly out mach a +£1000 CPU with just two or three "old" server CPU
Try the Intel Xeon E5-1650 v2 and the E5-2666 v3. The E5-1650v2 is a cheaper 1680v2 with 2 less cores. The 2666 v3 is a bit of a special CPU, but has 10 cores like a 10900K. Try high speed memory + to get results for COD WZ2.
The 2666 v3 is going on the shortlist, but the 1650 v2 is too close to the i7 4930K, which I've already reviewed. I'd considered the 1660 v2, but it costs as much as the 1680 v2!
@@tweakz_tech Yes! I was shopping for either chip, but they both cost far too much right now. I'm keeping an eye open in case one ever appears for a good price, but until then I'm happy to recommend the 1680 v2!
I picked up an E5 2690 for £28 (2.9Ghz base, 3.8Ghz boost), and fitted into a HP Z620 I bought for £100 in Decemeber (which came with 4x16Gb DDR3 1600 ECC). It chugs along under full load at 3.5Ghz. I had upgraded it from an E5-2660, which only ran 2.9Ghz under full load, in gaming the speed boost wastangable, every frame counts when you're working at this level. I might have to increasing the TDP using Throttle Stop and and see if I can get it to run all cores at 3.8Ghz, should give it a nice little boost if it will.
"kindly do the usual youtube things, if you feel so inclined" 😂. I did the ol' socket 775/1 xeon mod back then, good times! I still have that retired hardware
I have a similar one, an E5 2689 It's a very good CPU for it's price here in Brazil, not just for games but all around. I use it for editing, music production (FL Studio) and of course, gaming. It's interesting but mine keep boosting all the time without any tweeks, and it boosts all cores.
I'm enjoying the video, i suggest do a e3 1231 v3 test, for those haswell user they don't even have to change the MB if it's a good option to upgrade. price is really cheap(£27 in China) and the base clock is pretty high, i'm also thinking if i need to swap a new MB&CPU combo to get a better performance for my 2nd pc, thanks!
I got this CPU paired with a z97 Mobo and its still, even 2023, a decent Gaming CPU. But i switched to 2x e5 2660v2 cuz i got an EVGA SR-X for free🤣 Otherwise i wouldnt have change. The e3 is a very good and cheap choice.
If you're looking to build an ultra-cheap Xeon E5 PC, definitely get a v3 or v4 version rather than an original (Sandy Bridge) or v2 (Ivy Bridge). The v3 and v4 are based on the Haswell and Broadwell architectures (respectively) and therefore support AVX2 and have significantly better performance and efficiency in most games, while often not being significantly more expensive. They can't hold a candle to modern high-end CPUs, but their gaming performance is similar to that of last-gen entry-level models like the i3-10100F and Ryzen 5 4500, and they are still much cheaper (though also much less efficient).
What's your take on an older workstation route to budget gaming? I bought a HP Z620 that was listed for £180 but the seller offered it to me for £100. It was listed as E5 2690, 64 GB RAM and 480 GB SSD but no graphics card. Imagine my surprise when it actually came with 2 x E5 2690s! Bought a RX6600 for £230 (cheapest new 'budget' GPU i could find - cheaper than RTX3050 and slightly more than GTX1660) and stuck the 1TB HDD from my old system in there and very satisfied with the value I've got.
i really wanna see how this chip compares to a Ryzen 1700, wich has the same core count and runs only marginally faster in speed (obviusly its better in terms of IPC and instructions)
Just to mention it, the top end CPU for the socket 2011 is the i7 - 3970x not the cheapo 3960x - I know, because I bought the 3970X new. Well, it's not technically the very top end, cause that's the Xeon E5 2697 V2 - The cpu I am using in my server right now, 12 cores and 24 threads at 3,5 Ghz
im running a xeon e5 1620v2, 4 cores 8 threads, 3.7ghz base clock, 3.9ghz turbo, 10mb l3 cache, it cost about 30 bucks on ebay a couple years ago, paired with quad channel ECC ddr3, it will actually outperform a haswell and broadwell chip of similar specs
in late 2019 I was building a top tier gaming pc with the massive budget of 700$ (median salary is only 500$/month where I live so that's a hefty bit of money here) and I resorted to buying a huananzhi motherboard and an e5-2670 as well as a used gtx1070 from a local second hand tech store I gotta say I have only 1 regret and that's not buying e5-2650v2 instead, because the ram I got ran at 1866mhz which caused a problem with 2670 which only supports up to 1600mhz but yeah this cpu was the best value for money at the time nowadays tho I think lga2011v3 could compete with it in every single game I'm gpu bottle necked anyway so yeah, one of my best purchasing decisions ever
Hi!! very good video by the way, i'm currently using an E5 - 2680 V1paired with an Radeon 6650 XT and it works much better that i expected, especially in MW2 and Halo infinite
I still remember buying one of these (a 2690) for $60 and running it for a while a few year back. It sucked a lot. Some games like BFV ran insanely well compared to my 4690k (100+ FPS (RX 580) vs 50 FPS (GTX 960 - went to 70 FPS after))) but you quickly realize how poorly optimized every indie game and most slightly older games are when you use this thing. GTA V as an example dips to the low 40s just driving around the city and other games like 7 Days to Die, Astroneer, and Ark aren't much better off.
Try Dual, Quad and Octo CPU Setups. For Dual setup I recommend E5-2699A V4 total of 44 cores at 110Mb Cache 2.4/3.6GHz. For a Quad CPU setup I recommend E7(very cheap platform because not a lot of people know these powerhouses) E7-4850 v4 total of 64 cores 160 Mb of superfast cache. 2.1GHz/2.8GHz For 8 CPU setups I recommend E7-8894 V4(blows i9-13900K out of the water) 192 cores total 480Mb of superfast cache(no more CPU throttling) 2.4GHz/3.4GHz Especially when you run hardware from BOXX(RenderBOXX) You can run 16 RTX 4090’s on them and combine the power to 2 or 4 monitor outputs, for extreme FPS’s.
@@TH3C001 that’s exactly where RenderBOXX’s are made for large scale animations. Dosign Engineering, who’ve made all animations for Air Crash investigation, has 23 of those setups. All for only 120 animators they have working for them.
Please try the 1660v4 and 2667v4 they are being called x99 last hope the both have 8 broadwell cores and support ddr4 2400mhz ram with the only difference that the 2667v4 has 5mb extra of cache and the 1660v4 has higher clock speeds the first one is 30-40$ and the second one is 40 -60$
@@saricubra2867 I couldn't get DXVK to work at all with TW3, and I doubt it'd fix the immense issues. Also for benchmarking, using one of the two included APIs makes more sense in terms of consistency
Hey so I had an idea; what if you revisited some K SKU i3's? I was always fascinated by the 8350k and think it'd be a cool thing to try overclocking and see how they hold up
2xxx V3 xeons have that turbo unlock thar gives a little boost. My picks are the 120w 12 core and 14 core. Don't know their part numbers but they stand out when looking st the wikipidia page.
Still rocking a xeon e5 2667 v3 8 core 16 thread 3.2ghz with 16gbs of ram with an rtx 3060. Can crush everything I throw at it. Got the xeon for 15 bucks
I have 2 x e5-2690 v2 in my home server. It's nothing amazing, but for the price they were great. I paid 44 each a year ago, now they are around 25 each.
I was tremendously confused by this until I realised this is a E5-2670 v1 which only plods along at 2.6Ghz (3.3Ghz on boost). How about a E5-1650v2 at 3.5Ghz to 3.9Ghz, two less cores but core by core is nearly 28% faster, still 4% faster overall. You find it in bargain basement workstations like the Dell Precision T3610.
I would have liked if you showed more specifics about the pricing of motherboards for these xeons. i havent looked super recently butl last I looked it was 100$ to have the privilege of using a cheap high core count xeon. And compare that to 50-70$ for a used or even new am4 board, and another 50-100$ cpu to go with it, these are getting hard to justify unless you have a real need for loads of threads. Maybe a video breaking down the real end cost of a decent ryzen build used or new vs maybe a slightly faster xeon could be worth a look? 1660s and the like are getting cheap and anything less than haswell will hold them back. really soon 5700xts and 2080s will be getting cheap too and systems like this will hold them back quite a bit. let me know what you think!
I'm running this cpu on a china special mobo and when stressing it all cores are at 2993MHz without any extra software so I think that part may depend on what mobo you get, mine is not the cheapest china special mobo, combined with at gtx 1080 sc I can run any game at decent fps and still keeping the GPU maxed in many games if I want.
Intel Xeon E5-2696 V2 definitely I'm gonna get one too test out been using an 1680v2 for over a year now with nvme 2tb samsung 970 evo. It's a 12 core 24 thread it is very inexpensive one you can also run it as a dual xeon setup too.
I recently went from the E5-2689v1 and chinise board to E5-2660v3 and chinise x99 board. I suggest maybe check out the E5-2643V3 6c/12t but can be boost unlocked to 3.7 all core. Or maybe check out the E5-2666V3 which has a 3.5ghz all core with bios mod which is a "10c/20t" or a oem 9c/18t
Any chance you could try out the E5-2690 V2? It seems like other than the overclockable E5-1680 V2 which is still selling for silly money, the 2690 V2 is probably the best balance of clockspeed/number of cores/Slightly improved Ivy bridge IPC and at a good price (usually under £20) and see whether this would be the best X79 chip at the moment?
Imo if there is a catch with these xeons its the low clock speeds. And older architecture. Means your very likely going to run into GPU bottleneck at some point. But honestly as long as your not overpaying and know what your getting. It can be a good low cost entry point into pc gaming.
good video! but your charts are difficult to read via 26" Viewsonic tv/monitor @ 1366 x 768. I enjoy Xeon content for budget builds. I 'm using a e5-2650 v2 w/16gb ddr3-1333 4 x4gb ecc in quad channel for an office/work PC used build i based on a combo from aliexpress back in October 2021. Does what I need, even speeds up my disk imaging operations.
I have a 5775C video coming in a few weeks time, and a 6800K the week after that. My gut reaction based on comparing the 6800K to the 5930K is that Broadwll-E is just not worth it. At the same clocks I'm sure the Broadwell-E would beat Haswell-E by a few %, but my neither my 6800K nor my 5775C could hit my 4.5GHz target OC, and from what I can tell that's not unusual. The 6950X might earn a recommendation on the strength of its extra cores, but unless TDP is a major concern I think I'd suggest picking up a 5960X rather than a 6900K
Thanks!! Are you able to make the font size bigger on your charts so easier to compare CPU models? Interesting as always. I used to get old Dell or HP workstations and put xeons in them for my own / family use and them some flips!
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Bollocks… er, at 01:44 I list this CPU as “unlocked”, it is unfortunately very much locked. My bad 🤦♂️
you can bus oc it up to 4.1-4.2 but its alot of tuning and thats allcore
Idk about this class of hardware, but the stuff i play with can handle the fsb going up by quite a bit.
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@@eee1200 Yes indeed, no IP is safe!
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Great to see someone looking at these older xeons from 2000 series on a x79, I personally used an E5 2630 bought for around 2 euros with a cheap msi board and 16gb in quad channel and was super happy with its performance, many games performed much better than I expected from such a low clocked cpu. Nice video, thank you and i'm waiting for more. 👍
Do you still know whats the motherboard model? Kinda want to replace my old i7 860 with these dirt cheap xeon's haha
@@anxiety1209 I bought the motherboard at a bargain, on a local auction site, I use it to this day with xeon e5 1650v2 and I am 100% satisfied with it. Talking about msi x79a-gd45 8d. 8D is responsible for 8 memory banks :P
@@werwito6723 thanks for the info i took a look at it there was only one listing of that motherboard someone is selling it for 200$ but I ain't buying a 200$ motherboard for a 10$ cpu lmao i think I'll be going the Chinese motherboard route 😅
A 10-core or even 12-core only costs a few bucks more.
A whole used workstation system from your local e-waste recycler would cost about the same price as just the motherboard alone from a build... and would guarantee stuff like quad-channel RAM support, that most of those Ali Express motherboards lack... look for an HP Z420, or the Dell or Lenovo equivalents.
The conclusion at the end of the video about making the leap to Haswell based V3 Xeon's on "X99" platform instead of "X79" is correct. The jump in IPC, core count, DDR4, AVX2, etc., is all worth paying slightly more.
An HP Z440 workstation, with a 16-core Xeon 2698 V3 @ 3.6GHz Turbo, and 64 GB of Quad-channel DDR4 ECC server RAM, plus a cheapo SSD boot drive, can all be had for below $200 USD.
Drop in your flavour of GPU to make it a beast gaming rig... Or drop in a bunch of hard drives to make it a home server... or both.
I've always wondered how the E5-2630 v3 compares to this and the other budget chips tested today. Here in the USA they can be had for the same price as the 2670, but it's on the X99 platform. A quick look at PassMark shows a 15% faster single thread, lower rated TDP of 85W, and a 15% better all core score. It does have lower cache and lower clock speeds, but I think the comparison would be interesting.
It’s pretty bad, but, for the price, if you just want to start building PCs, imo it’s a great option.
I so want to see you doing one of these for the E5-2699 V4!
i love the thought of pairing this with an old rx 580 or something and being able to play basically any game you want, very impressive stuff from the cheap cpu
It can handle other great cards as well, my friend runs a 2670v3 with a 2060 super 8gb at 1440p and he gets really great results (60+ fps lmao)
@@k-osmonaut8807exact build I'm doing rn 😂 lmao
I just upgraded from a 1200 to a 3600x, I hope I didn’t get scammed, or else I’ll have to cry in my room and watch your videos all day until I have more money
That's a nice upgrade!
Have you tested in your games yet? You'll soon find out it's a worthy upgrade! Nope you haven't been scammed. Time to chill and play :)
@@mozzjones6943 it haven’t arrived yet, I’m scared of bent pins not bad performance
@@theburger_king You weren't very clear about that lol Read your comment again. I hope you don't get scammed good luck :)
I'd be very interested in seeing an E5-2698v3 tested. It's a 16C/32T Haswell Xeon (2011v3) that can be had for $40 nowadays. I suspect it would be solid in both gaming and workstation tasks.
The biggest thing holding something like that would be its clockspeeds. That would be my guess anyway.
@@thomaswest2583 And old platform
e5-2696v3 is 18/36 and with turbo unlock it stays at 3.8Ghz all cores.
@@DanielGT_93 Damn, pretty good.
Got an e5 2697 v3 and it's a monster. Literally runs absolutely anything paired with a 5500xt 8gb.
It's crazy how in 2005 my first computer was a 500MHz Pentium 3 with 128MB of RAM that could barely run Windows XP. Now even if you're completely strapped for cash, you can easily get a quad core Core i5 Haswell system or something that is not only useable but actually pretty good for most tasks.
finally a video about old parts without silly overclocks, ram and cooling. hats off to you mate
Snowman CPU Cooler you must be a fan of Tech Yes City haha
Great video! and btw, one really small correction at 00:46, Intel has been making 8 core server CPUs from way back to March 2010, when they launched Beckton, based on the Nehalem microarchitecture at 45nm, and then next year with Westmere-EX they even bumped it to 10 cores on 32nm
That wtf got me laughing real hard 😂btw nice video and your channel deserves more attention
I splurged for a Xeon E5-2689, stuck it in a Shenzhen Special X79 board, added 64 GB of ECC RAM (for which I paid less than US$20), added a used RX580 and a mid-range 1TB NVMe SSD, hooked it all to used Seasonic 600W PSU, added a fan and a CPU cooler, installed one of the less annoying Linux distros, found a class-compatible Focusrite recording interface, and I have a very capable workstation for Kdenlive, Blender, Ardour, Darktable, some development tools, and lots of other things for less than US$500. Runs the few games I play these days fairly well.
Great video, informative and well presented, thanks!
Almost hitting that 20K subscribers
the cutter put in some utterly insane easter eggs!
you know, you making this video was great since i have a literal pile of E5-2620's in my closet, the 2620 is a 6 core, where the 2670 is 8 cores. I remember getting them for cheap paying around $5 a piece in an auction. so this video is a great way to see roughly what single core performance i could expect from them
For context people, I spent more than double this for dinner at McDonald's last night!
Xeon's are dope, using a E5 2697v2 in my PC on a daily and it still rocks for just 67€
20k subs congrats !!!
nice video. I have a complain, your new graphs and font are so tiny, basically unreadable when watching below 720p. (I have a terrible adsl connection, sorry! 360p it is...)
also, the white outline of 1% low number is horrible to look at even at 1080p, remove it if possible.
E5 2660 V3 is $8 and has 10C/20T
You should do a whole video on throttle stop and any other "not overclocking" things you use. As someone who does a lot of buying in the old Intel space it would be really nice to know how to "overclock" locked chips
New upload lets fucking go also part of the 20k club. Remember me.
This is the most underrated channel wtf
Honestly, it can be a great budget video editing monster on budget or maybe an interesting Hackintosh project PC
2697 v3, $25, 14 cores, can choose DDR3/DDR4, Runs at 3.1-3.6 GHz.
It wasn't that long ago when you had less than 1k subs, that's when I subbed
I would say the E5-2667 v1 and v2 would be the more interesting CPUs to test, they have high base frequency (v1-2.90/v2-3.30ghz) and high turbo (v1-3.50/v2-4.0ghz). The v1 is a 6-core and the v2 is a 8-core, the v2 is around $18-20 though so its definitely worth a look. The v2 also has 25MB of cache, so it should really be a gaming monster!
the 2667v2 is a gaming monster. I have it in my rig :D
I've had one of these for a while running in my server and I couldn't be happier with it. Got it paired with 128gb of ram running tons of stuff from minecraft servers to discord bots.
I don't know the $ to € conversion, but isn't that the same cost as the E5-2673v3 nowadays?
and people do some trickery to get those on unlimited turbo boost somehow.
EDIT: ah, you kind of mentioned the x99 at the end.
you know, the devil's E5-2666v3 with turbo boot unlock was all the rage during the pandemic, you might like to try that one.
x79 can usually do all-core turbo all-the-time with just a single bios setting, so it's great for a simple ultra-budget build. IMO additional price for x99 doesn't make sense, if your local market has halfway decent pricing for used AM4.
@@AAjax yeah, I mentioned AM4 in another comment, but Idk, there was some price pressure on the cheap AM4 mobos because of all the interest last time I checked.
but those APU are unbeatable when it comes to not needing a low tier card for decent performance.
Graz on 20k subs!
Thanks!
People will just not let sandy bridge die. Your work is amazing and i hope you keep going.
The bench mark part is kinda misleading.
They were never made for gaming, they can be on par with some CPU or what ever, but the deal with "old server parts" is getting:
42 physical CPU cores, 84 HT cores, 960GB of DDR4 ECC ram, two 4x1GB NIC, and two 2x10Gbps NIC for £450 MSRP is £13500 10 years ago
Just 960GB of DDR4 non ECC ram today is around £1300
The raw multi core performance when it comes to numbers is worth it, the amount of RAM you can get for cheap is mindbogglingly, networking if you just look at numbers is 48Gbps
A top of the line CPU will struggle a bit with just a 10Gbps line, having to share that to one or two stations will maybe give you 2.5Gbps to them.
having 512 or 796GB of ram at your disposal will greatly out mach a +£1000 CPU with just two or three "old" server CPU
I’d love to see a FX 8320-9590 tested against this thing. Who’s the best at 2013 era 8 core?
You should test the FX 8 series against i5s of that era since they have similar price points in their release
Worth every penny! ;-)
Try the Intel Xeon E5-1650 v2 and the E5-2666 v3. The E5-1650v2 is a cheaper 1680v2 with 2 less cores. The 2666 v3 is a bit of a special CPU, but has 10 cores like a 10900K. Try high speed memory + to get results for COD WZ2.
The 2666 v3 is going on the shortlist, but the 1650 v2 is too close to the i7 4930K, which I've already reviewed. I'd considered the 1660 v2, but it costs as much as the 1680 v2!
@@IcebergTech Isn't the 4960X like the 1660 v2?
@@tweakz_tech Yes! I was shopping for either chip, but they both cost far too much right now. I'm keeping an eye open in case one ever appears for a good price, but until then I'm happy to recommend the 1680 v2!
I picked up an E5 2690 for £28 (2.9Ghz base, 3.8Ghz boost), and fitted into a HP Z620 I bought for £100 in Decemeber (which came with 4x16Gb DDR3 1600 ECC). It chugs along under full load at 3.5Ghz. I had upgraded it from an E5-2660, which only ran 2.9Ghz under full load, in gaming the speed boost wastangable, every frame counts when you're working at this level. I might have to increasing the TDP using Throttle Stop and and see if I can get it to run all cores at 3.8Ghz, should give it a nice little boost if it will.
"kindly do the usual youtube things, if you feel so inclined" 😂. I did the ol' socket 775/1 xeon mod back then, good times! I still have that retired hardware
Looks like competition in the new market is driving down costs in the used market
CONGRATULATIONS on the 20k subs (even if I am a bit late lol) SO well deserved
Thanks 😀
I love these Xeon videos!
How I wish those sold for this price in my country, down here almost all second hand sellers are putting them out for like 40USD
I have a similar one, an E5 2689
It's a very good CPU for it's price here in Brazil, not just for games but all around. I use it for editing, music production (FL Studio) and of course, gaming.
It's interesting but mine keep boosting all the time without any tweeks, and it boosts all cores.
I'm enjoying the video, i suggest do a e3 1231 v3 test, for those haswell user they don't even have to change the MB if it's a good option to upgrade. price is really cheap(£27 in China) and the base clock is pretty high, i'm also thinking if i need to swap a new MB&CPU combo to get a better performance for my 2nd pc, thanks!
I got this CPU paired with a z97 Mobo and its still, even 2023, a decent Gaming CPU. But i switched to 2x e5 2660v2 cuz i got an EVGA SR-X for free🤣 Otherwise i wouldnt have change. The e3 is a very good and cheap choice.
Finally we're getting some budget Xeon processors, I'd love to see the e5-2667v3 or v4
I have the 14 core 28 thread version of this with 32 gb ram and 3060 ti and its brilliant 👏
If you're looking to build an ultra-cheap Xeon E5 PC, definitely get a v3 or v4 version rather than an original (Sandy Bridge) or v2 (Ivy Bridge). The v3 and v4 are based on the Haswell and Broadwell architectures (respectively) and therefore support AVX2 and have significantly better performance and efficiency in most games, while often not being significantly more expensive.
They can't hold a candle to modern high-end CPUs, but their gaming performance is similar to that of last-gen entry-level models like the i3-10100F and Ryzen 5 4500, and they are still much cheaper (though also much less efficient).
What's your take on an older workstation route to budget gaming? I bought a HP Z620 that was listed for £180 but the seller offered it to me for £100. It was listed as E5 2690, 64 GB RAM and 480 GB SSD but no graphics card. Imagine my surprise when it actually came with 2 x E5 2690s! Bought a RX6600 for £230 (cheapest new 'budget' GPU i could find - cheaper than RTX3050 and slightly more than GTX1660) and stuck the 1TB HDD from my old system in there and very satisfied with the value I've got.
Man gotta rip his gpu out of his rig every time when he wants to make a video
Lol, yes please, cry for me and my first world problems 😁
@@IcebergTech iceberg bro we do cry for you 😔
do you think you could mess around with modern quadcores like the 12100 or the 13100? would be cool to see how it compares to the old 7700
i really wanna see how this chip compares to a Ryzen 1700, wich has the same core count and runs only marginally faster in speed (obviusly its better in terms of IPC and instructions)
Oh yeah the old times my country assembled CPUs...sort of...
Criminally underated
Just to mention it, the top end CPU for the socket 2011 is the i7 - 3970x not the cheapo 3960x - I know, because I bought the 3970X new. Well, it's not technically the very top end, cause that's the Xeon E5 2697 V2 - The cpu I am using in my server right now, 12 cores and 24 threads at 3,5 Ghz
im running a xeon e5 1620v2, 4 cores 8 threads, 3.7ghz base clock, 3.9ghz turbo, 10mb l3 cache, it cost about 30 bucks on ebay a couple years ago, paired with quad channel ECC ddr3, it will actually outperform a haswell and broadwell chip of similar specs
in late 2019 I was building a top tier gaming pc with the massive budget of 700$ (median salary is only 500$/month where I live so that's a hefty bit of money here)
and I resorted to buying a huananzhi motherboard and an e5-2670 as well as a used gtx1070 from a local second hand tech store
I gotta say I have only 1 regret
and that's not buying e5-2650v2 instead, because the ram I got ran at 1866mhz which caused a problem with 2670 which only supports up to 1600mhz
but yeah this cpu was the best value for money at the time
nowadays tho I think lga2011v3 could compete with it
in every single game I'm gpu bottle necked anyway so yeah, one of my best purchasing decisions ever
I've run a couple of dual cpu xeon builds and it's a ton of fun.
Wow. I bought this, a dell motherboard, 16gb of DDR3 ram and a snowman cooler for fun :) I'm going to build something with it in a week or so.
Hi!! very good video by the way,
i'm currently using an E5 - 2680 V1paired with an Radeon 6650 XT and it works much better that i expected, especially in MW2 and Halo infinite
I have 2687w paired with 64 GB gskill 2666 MHz with Asus rampage 4 extreme I belive my machine is still some capable
I still remember buying one of these (a 2690) for $60 and running it for a while a few year back. It sucked a lot. Some games like BFV ran insanely well compared to my 4690k (100+ FPS (RX 580) vs 50 FPS (GTX 960 - went to 70 FPS after))) but you quickly realize how poorly optimized every indie game and most slightly older games are when you use this thing. GTA V as an example dips to the low 40s just driving around the city and other games like 7 Days to Die, Astroneer, and Ark aren't much better off.
Try Dual, Quad and Octo CPU Setups. For Dual setup I recommend E5-2699A V4 total of 44 cores at 110Mb Cache 2.4/3.6GHz.
For a Quad CPU setup I recommend E7(very cheap platform because not a lot of people know these powerhouses)
E7-4850 v4 total of 64 cores 160 Mb of superfast cache. 2.1GHz/2.8GHz
For 8 CPU setups I recommend
E7-8894 V4(blows i9-13900K out of the water) 192 cores total 480Mb of superfast cache(no more CPU throttling) 2.4GHz/3.4GHz
Especially when you run hardware from BOXX(RenderBOXX) You can run 16 RTX 4090’s on them and combine the power to 2 or 4 monitor outputs, for extreme FPS’s.
I do recommend to use a very Beefy power UPS for each of the 4 powersupplies. And 4 16A groups because each power supply runs at 16A maximum.
Also wear a good closed headphone while gaming.
_Holy shit!_ Could probably recreate and render out all of Toy Story and Toy Story 2 in Blender in a single afternoon lol.
@@TH3C001 that’s exactly where RenderBOXX’s are made for large scale animations. Dosign Engineering, who’ve made all animations for Air Crash investigation, has 23 of those setups. All for only 120 animators they have working for them.
Please try the 1660v4 and 2667v4 they are being called x99 last hope the both have 8 broadwell cores and support ddr4 2400mhz ram with the only difference that the 2667v4 has 5mb extra of cache and the 1660v4 has higher clock speeds the first one is 30-40$ and the second one is 40 -60$
just hit 20k!
I'd recommend testing DX11 in The Witcher 3 rather than DX12. It's far more efficient in terms of CPU utilization. Great video!
DX11 is worse than DX12. Vulkan is the best
@@saricubra2867 I'm talking about The Witcher 3 specifically, not in general. DX12 in The Witcher 3 has major performance issues compared to DX11
@@Kim-fm2vo Also on Witcher 3. Vulkan removes any kind of CPU overhead from both APIs.
@@saricubra2867 I couldn't get DXVK to work at all with TW3, and I doubt it'd fix the immense issues. Also for benchmarking, using one of the two included APIs makes more sense in terms of consistency
He's playing relatively modern AAA games at 1440p and hitting stable 60FPS frame rates and still managing to criticize the performance...
Hey so I had an idea; what if you revisited some K SKU i3's? I was always fascinated by the 8350k and think it'd be a cool thing to try overclocking and see how they hold up
2xxx V3 xeons have that turbo unlock thar gives a little boost.
My picks are the 120w 12 core and 14 core.
Don't know their part numbers but they stand out when looking st the wikipidia page.
it wouls be interesting to see what dlss 3 frame generation would do for these older cpus
Picking a Z620 WS up on Tuesday that has this cpu twice, pretty nice for 80€.
Still rocking a xeon e5 2667 v3 8 core 16 thread 3.2ghz with 16gbs of ram with an rtx 3060. Can crush everything I throw at it. Got the xeon for 15 bucks
I have 2 x e5-2690 v2 in my home server. It's nothing amazing, but for the price they were great. I paid 44 each a year ago, now they are around 25 each.
I was tremendously confused by this until I realised this is a E5-2670 v1 which only plods along at 2.6Ghz (3.3Ghz on boost).
How about a E5-1650v2 at 3.5Ghz to 3.9Ghz, two less cores but core by core is nearly 28% faster, still 4% faster overall. You find it in bargain basement workstations like the Dell Precision T3610.
2690v2 10 core can go to 114bclk,1 core to 4100 mhz and all core to 3762 mhz
I have 2 of these in my home server, they work great and are pretty cheap.
I would have liked if you showed more specifics about the pricing of motherboards for these xeons. i havent looked super recently butl last I looked it was 100$ to have the privilege of using a cheap high core count xeon. And compare that to 50-70$ for a used or even new am4 board, and another 50-100$ cpu to go with it, these are getting hard to justify unless you have a real need for loads of threads. Maybe a video breaking down the real end cost of a decent ryzen build used or new vs maybe a slightly faster xeon could be worth a look? 1660s and the like are getting cheap and anything less than haswell will hold them back. really soon 5700xts and 2080s will be getting cheap too and systems like this will hold them back quite a bit. let me know what you think!
I'm running this cpu on a china special mobo and when stressing it all cores are at 2993MHz without any extra software so I think that part may depend on what mobo you get, mine is not the cheapest china special mobo, combined with at gtx 1080 sc I can run any game at decent fps and still keeping the GPU maxed in many games if I want.
Intel Xeon E5-2696 V2 definitely I'm gonna get one too test out been using an 1680v2 for over a year now with nvme 2tb samsung 970 evo. It's a 12 core 24 thread it is very inexpensive one you can also run it as a dual xeon setup too.
Reviewed the same processor about 4 months ago. I was able to pick it up for $5 back then. Guess the price has gone up lol
I recently went from the E5-2689v1 and chinise board to E5-2660v3 and chinise x99 board.
I suggest maybe check out the E5-2643V3 6c/12t but can be boost unlocked to 3.7 all core. Or maybe check out the E5-2666V3 which has a 3.5ghz all core with bios mod which is a "10c/20t" or a oem 9c/18t
intel started making 8 core server cpus on lga 1567 xeon x7560 and l7555
Any chance you could try out the E5-2690 V2? It seems like other than the overclockable E5-1680 V2 which is still selling for silly money, the 2690 V2 is probably the best balance of clockspeed/number of cores/Slightly improved Ivy bridge IPC and at a good price (usually under £20) and see whether this would be the best X79 chip at the moment?
E5-2689 is around 14USD/12£, and still a good 60FPS all the time (almost) CPU for gaming...
Imo if there is a catch with these xeons its the low clock speeds. And older architecture. Means your very likely going to run into GPU bottleneck at some point. But honestly as long as your not overpaying and know what your getting. It can be a good low cost entry point into pc gaming.
I used to use this CPU. Not bad as an entry point to the x79 platform when I got it
I'd love to see a xeon e5 2660v3 tested. 10c/20t
Maybe test out the 8-core 2640v3 for $15 with turbo boost unlock? One of my AliExpress favors for the money. 3.4GHz all core.
Lotta cores, not a lot of clocks. Would have done almost anything for one of these bad boys back in the day though
good video! but your charts are difficult to read via 26" Viewsonic tv/monitor @ 1366 x 768. I enjoy Xeon content for budget builds. I 'm using a e5-2650 v2 w/16gb ddr3-1333 4 x4gb ecc in quad channel for an office/work PC used build i based on a combo from aliexpress back in October 2021. Does what I need, even speeds up my disk imaging operations.
Do videos more towards overclockable old cpus
6:32 But I have an... i3 2100... *uh oh*
can you review this cpu E5-2670 v3, i think this will be a solid contender !
I'd reckon the freezing in spiderman is lack of cache and/or video memory.
Broadwell-E next please. I'd really like to know if the 6950x or 6900k is worth it over the 5960X.
I have a 5775C video coming in a few weeks time, and a 6800K the week after that.
My gut reaction based on comparing the 6800K to the 5930K is that Broadwll-E is just not worth it. At the same clocks I'm sure the Broadwell-E would beat Haswell-E by a few %, but my neither my 6800K nor my 5775C could hit my 4.5GHz target OC, and from what I can tell that's not unusual.
The 6950X might earn a recommendation on the strength of its extra cores, but unless TDP is a major concern I think I'd suggest picking up a 5960X rather than a 6900K
A video about the X5650 would be nice
The memory speed limit is nonsense. I have a xeon with a similar rated ddr3 speed and it can run the ram at it's rated 2133mhz just fine.
These xeons are great for a small homelab TBH
W3690 Build in progress. Do you know how to work Z400 mobos?
Thanks!! Are you able to make the font size bigger on your charts so easier to compare CPU models? Interesting as always. I used to get old Dell or HP workstations and put xeons in them for my own / family use and them some flips!