+Ricardo Nunez I was thinking the same thing. I mean Its hard to tell someone not to curse especially if they know better cause we've all cursed at some point and God knows we're all imperfect but for me I'd say its no excuse for me to swear or cuss but as far as everyone else the choice is on their own.
Mike has explained this before. They aren't a Christian band. Just Christians in a band. They'll write about their connection to god from time to time but not all their songs are religious.
Lol he actually made me laugh when he said that instead of people be like OMG Mike u a christian why u cuss it stupid he a human too we all sin I still think Mike,andy,chris, Jeremey Are cool I forgot the other guys name lol but he cool too
It's not that Christians are "judging" them for cussing or getting drunk. It's just disappointing that their attitudes about drunkenness is not Christlike. Drunkenness is actually a very serious sin and it's no surprise because of all of the death, hurt, pain, lust, stupidity, suicides, etc that happen to drunk people. God loves us and loves them and as they claim to be His children, they need to do their best to encourage and edify others towards Christ and His love and His righteousness. Nobody loves TDWP and their music more than me. I love their music and their talent, it's definitely God-given in my opinion. And I hope they are truly Christians and my brothers in Christ and it's not all an act. Because just as a person who calls themselves a buddhist is supposed to do what Buddha told them to do, a true Christian tries to do what Christ told us to. Love you TDWP!!!
YES!!! AMEN! FINALLY SOMEONE WHO I AGREE WITH! Drinking isn't a sin BEING DRUNK IS. Throwing back a few isn't bad. In fact, I've done it. It's disappointing when I hear christians like Mike who are open about their faith and even wrote a book about it and curse ON CAMERA. Its frustrating but I will always love TDWP.
This condemns those who drink for dependence, and those who commit evil deeds while drink. I'm pretty sure TDWP won't be doing anything really bad while drunk.
It was a big deal for me to hear Mike swear mainly because in the seven years I've know the band, not once did I ever hear that from him. But its normal I guess, I mean shit I do it
There are a lot people who have different thoughts on swearing, I'm a christian and I have a lot of friends who are also christians, my best friend for example, he swears, but from his viewpoint on swearing, he personally thinks that its fine as long as you aren't using it to insult or bring someone down. Mike didn't really use it in the best way by insulting smaller time bands, but hey, people make mistakes, we aren't perfect.
Ariel Lopez it is quoted dude... something like "shit metalcore band". meaning, a band that has a "s***t" or "f**k" in every bit of their lyrics.... probably.
Personally profanity is pointless and drinking till drunk is pointless... as it goes against biblical teachings not as pointless but as sin... I could understand having a brew to chill but not till you lose your senses and forget what life is... That is like alcoholic or druggy talk... and i know that is not what this band is about, why preach it like its nothing, when it goes against what this band is trying to define.... Profanity on its own, is stupid... He could have used so many other words... I could understand out of anger and slip ups, we are all human and grow in Christ... but out of a casual talk???? what is this??? I know they are Christian but this is not being very Christian like.... Not one bit.... I am disappointed with this band... They have showed me a side that I did not know they had...
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I love this band so much.
Am I the only one who was shocked to hear Mike curse after being a fan for so long?!
+Ricardo Nunez I was thinking the same thing. I mean Its hard to tell someone not to curse especially if they know better cause we've all cursed at some point and God knows we're all imperfect but for me I'd say its no excuse for me to swear or cuss but as far as everyone else the choice is on their own.
Why cant people be more like you?
i've met you guys! and after 4 years you still remember fans! Great band!
Mike has explained this before. They aren't a Christian band. Just Christians in a band. They'll write about their connection to god from time to time but not all their songs are religious.
do motionless in white
In a way "shit metal" could be a subgenre XP
Lol he actually made me laugh when he said that instead of people be like OMG Mike u a christian why u cuss it stupid he a human too we all sin I still think Mike,andy,chris, Jeremey Are cool I forgot the other guys name lol but he cool too
the cows came home, i have heard mike harnica curse.
love them
It's not that Christians are "judging" them for cussing or getting drunk.
It's just disappointing that their attitudes about drunkenness is not Christlike.
Drunkenness is actually a very serious sin and it's no surprise because of all of the death, hurt, pain, lust, stupidity, suicides, etc that happen to drunk people.
God loves us and loves them and as they claim to be His children, they need to do their best to encourage and edify others towards Christ and His love and His righteousness.
Nobody loves TDWP and their music more than me. I love their music and their talent, it's definitely God-given in my opinion.
And I hope they are truly Christians and my brothers in Christ and it's not all an act.
Because just as a person who calls themselves a buddhist is supposed to do what Buddha told them to do, a true Christian tries to do what Christ told us to.
Love you TDWP!!!
YES!!! AMEN! FINALLY SOMEONE WHO I AGREE WITH! Drinking isn't a sin BEING DRUNK IS. Throwing back a few isn't bad. In fact, I've done it. It's disappointing when I hear christians like Mike who are open about their faith and even wrote a book about it and curse ON CAMERA. Its frustrating but I will always love TDWP.
You can tell how high they are lol
You guys are lame
Swearing is a sense of release
no matter how holy you are everyone does it.
yo just because a band is christian doesnt mean they automatially can't swear
Why do they go from preaching about God at their shows to getting drunk?
Because drinking isn't a sin.
Yes, being drunk is a sin.
Show me the Bible verse where it says that.
www.openbible.info/topics/drinking_alcohol
This condemns those who drink for dependence, and those who commit evil deeds while drink. I'm pretty sure TDWP won't be doing anything really bad while drunk.
They are a Christian band not a straightedge band. Get over yourselves, they aren't perfect just like everyone else here.
"Christian Band" Right... Whatever.
Wouldn't it make sense that they would like the music they play? Many of them chose different genres as favorite.
It was a big deal for me to hear Mike swear mainly because in the seven years I've know the band, not once did I ever hear that from him. But its normal I guess, I mean shit I do it
Super disappointed in these fakes.
Try not to be so butt hurt...
I wonder if they ever listen to their own music
By then saying they get drunk it makes em look like huge hypocrites seriously I thought the were Christian
@Ethan Harris Also, why do they g from preaching God to cursing? Notice how one of them says s#%*...
There are a lot people who have different thoughts on swearing, I'm a christian and I have a lot of friends who are also christians, my best friend for example, he swears, but from his viewpoint on swearing, he personally thinks that its fine as long as you aren't using it to insult or bring someone down. Mike didn't really use it in the best way by insulting smaller time bands, but hey, people make mistakes, we aren't perfect.
Yeah I realize that.
were all sinners though anddd if im not mistaking doesn't it say all sins are equal? or is there a secret bible i don't know about
ps i drink and i swear but i also love my god =]
Ariel Lopez it is quoted dude... something like "shit metalcore band". meaning, a band that has a "s***t" or "f**k" in every bit of their lyrics.... probably.
Btw he swore only once big deal
Very disappointing.
Personally profanity is pointless and drinking till drunk is pointless... as it goes against biblical teachings not as pointless but as sin...
I could understand having a brew to chill but not till you lose your senses and forget what life is... That is like alcoholic or druggy talk... and i know that is not what this band is about, why preach it like its nothing, when it goes against what this band is trying to define....
Profanity on its own, is stupid... He could have used so many other words... I could understand out of anger and slip ups, we are all human and grow in Christ... but out of a casual talk???? what is this???
I know they are Christian but this is not being very Christian like.... Not one bit.... I am disappointed with this band... They have showed me a side that I did not know they had...