The Doctor Who Anniversary That Changed EVERYTHING
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 พ.ย. 2023
- Doctor Who anniversaries are a big occasion for every fan. From The Five Doctors to Day of the Doctor, it has become tradition to stack these anniversary episodes with as many Doctors as possible. But I thought I'd go back to where it all began, 1972's The Three Doctors. Does it still hold up?
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One of my favourite stories is that, although Troughton and Pertwee clashed a lot at the start of production, they became good friends by the end. But they continued to play up the rivalry at conventions that, when the Five Doctors was written, it was assumed that they wouldn't want to work together so purpousefully didn't have them meet until the scene at the end where the 5 Doctors come together, which Troughton and Pertwee were quite upset about
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I didn’t know they clashed?
@@c0nvict_pleb174yeah on the making of doc on the home media releases they recall a story where pertwee wanted the camera to mainly be on him since hes the lead of the show whereas troughton said they should focus on the monster since thats what the kids like.
@chedaki They disagreed over their acting techniques. Troughton had a habit of learning the gist of his lines and delivering his own version. Pertwee was very precise and methodical and would be thrown by cue lines that weren't what he was expecting.
Oh, the video has just said that as I finished typing. Oh well.
Pertwee and Troughton NEVER clashed as actors but did as Doctors. The two served together during the war and were the greatest of friends.
Pertwee would always take Troughton with him to Doctor Who events even though Patrick was hesitant to go.
At the American convention Tardis 21in 1983, Troughton did not want to go but attended at the urging of Pertwee. Troughton told us in the audience the he did not want to attend because “we never saw his Doctor in America” and that we “would not accept him”. Which of course Jon replied “was ridiculous.” Jon stayed close to Pat during the entire event except on cabaret night, where Jon performed in stage and Pat sat in the lobby reading storybooks to children.
Don’t ever say they didn’t get along. They were like brothers.
10:33 “no, Sir… all thirteen!” I like how the line eventually got a wink in the 50th anniversary!
As a new fan, slowly learning more about Dr. Who, I find it somewhat bitter-sweet, seeing that capricious, prickly old man one last time. With a sly, knowing smile on his face, just as he put one on mine. You can tell he made peace with being the First Doctor, even though he didn't understand it.
What do you mean? He loved playing the role.
@@yellowpete79 Should have phrased it better. Giving it up. Being the last one left, out of his colleagues in real life and the show, that's the one that sticks out for me. Especially that line, when he calls out for Susan
You are way off. Hartnell relished the role and did not even want to give it up when his health was failing.
@@lakecountynaturalist7617 I believe you are misunderstanding my comment, if you'd have read further, you'd have seen how I adressed these painful events. simply tried to ask what if
I strongly disagree, my favourite moment in the story is Omega's child like cry as he realises he no longer has a physical form, he's trapped in literally every possible sense of the word and all he has left is to cry and tantrum.
That anguished cry was probably one of the most "realistic" aspects of his performance IMHO.
It always seems odd, he could have visitors if he wasn't such an AH
The strange and unexpected cries have the most power. Robert Mitchum's howl in "Night of the Hunter" is weird and because of that, unnerving.
it humanises him omega isn't really a super imposing darth vader like character, he was just a scientist who went insane, it's a very human reaction to the revelation of your body being destroyed. it would freak you out. In expanded media sometimes he's portrayed as a much more empathetic timelord than others which I like
The Brigadier is one of those characters who the Doctor really doesn't like when he's a regular character, but as soon as he becomes an occasional character, the Doctor views him as his best friend
No. The Fourth Doctor kinda hate him.
bruh what, no he didnt , he just didnt want to be stuck on Earth doing Brigs work for him@@mayotango1317
@@mayotango1317 Yeah i never liked that though was too much of change from John. Hate the fact that UNIT was more or less discharged afterwards well minus a few stories like Terror of the Zygons.
No, the Doctor hated being stuck on Earth that’s what made him so cranky. He’d yell at anyone…Brig, Jo, Liz, Benton..everyone got it because he hated that the Time Lords put him into exile.
I think I prefer the Five Doctors overall, but this one is pretty good too. I like them both a lot more than the Two Doctors.
It’s actually quite funny that both the Three and Five Doctors didn’t fully feature as many as their titles suggest, with Hartnell basically being in a cameo role and Baker only appearing through a couple of scenes from Shada.
Always loved this special, rewatching it alot as a child on DVD!! I was scared of omega and his uncontrollable anger, I'd imagine when this was first aired, it must have been terrifying for kids!!
I read somewhere that Pertwee got annoyed at Troughton mainly because pertwee had memorised not only his own lines but the lines of everyone else in the scene so he knew when to respond and react to everyone.. Troughton was more laid back and even improvised some of the lines and shortened the existing lines down, this annoyed pertwee as he never knew when his cue was! Its nice that they eventually became very good friends who played up their rivalry at conventions and tv appearances!!
Rest in peace to them both!!
Troughton was the epitome of an improvising actor. During the rehearsals for _The Three Doctors,_ this exchange actually happened:
Troughton: [Approximates a line]
Pertwee: That's what you're going to say, is it?
Troughton: Never mind what I'm going to say, old boy. Just concentrate on what _you're_ going to say.
Source "Who And Me", the memoirs of Barry Letts.
The serial where the Time Lords really start to get fleshed out. Great story, and incredible performances by everyone, particularly Pertwee and Troughton. The only sad part of this story was seeing Bill Hartnell in such a run-down state. And hey! I loved the Gel Guards!
The Three Doctors is honestly one of my favorite multi-Doctor stories along with the Five Doctors and Day of the Doctor
Good review of The Three Doctors! I think this story is a great way to celebrate 10 years. I do love this story as a kid, and I still love it now. I do like Patrick Troughton and Jon Pertwee together and Troughton just steals the show. I will admit it was good to see William Hartnell again in this story even though his role is limited because of his health but I call it dedication even when he was sick, he still came back as the 1st Doctor to do this story and this was the last time, he played the 1st Doctor, and you can tell he still loves playing the 1st Doctor. I do like Omega in this story, and he was a great villain and I do love the Brigadier in this story.
"Omeega" 💀
Hey Harbo, great video as always. I never usually request anything from creators because they’re the ones making the video, but seeing as you’re doing Classic Who reviews, I thought it might be fun to go over The Tenth Planet, as I feel that it’s one of the most influential serials of all time, up there with The Daleks and Rose.
Also I’m incredibly excited for the Heaven Sent review, it’s my favourite episode of all time.
This was one of the few 20th century stories I'd play repeatedly on my old VHS player. But when I saw it the first time, I really had no idea who Hartnell and Troughton were...
Me too because we did not get either Doctors here in America. But it didn’t matter. The script explained it well enough and it was a good story.,
11:19 I paused to read this. I just love the way Hartnell dropped it into a newspaper interview that he wasn't getting offered parts on TV because "They fight shy of engaging expensive actors".
Because of his disadvantaged early years he became quite a snob regarding his career.
But having seen many of his performances (he virtually steals "Footsteps in the Fog" in the final act), he had plenty to be snobbish about. He was an actor who thoroughly deserved his eventual stardom.
Idk, that yell does sound like someone who realized all this was for nothing, all that pain overcoming him.
Right. Omega was in pain because he was alone and wanted the company of fellow time lords. The actor did a great job portraying him.
I was watching Logopolis and I heard your intro chime as part of the music towards the end of part 4, when the doctor escapes out onto the balcony. I can't be the only one to have noticed!
My mission has finally succeeded
@@HarboWholmes Don't tell me I'm ACTUALLY the first person to notice that. Nahh surely not
THAT'S WHERE IT'S FROM!!!
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Omega like: “I refuse to die”
I don't want to go.
My favourite all time story, it’s Biblical sized and sitcom furnished. Biblical because of the godly trinity of Doctors, sitcom because of well, just look at that shattered UNIT office. Seriously though, only then Doctor Who could have done The Three Doctors and in my aged Whovian opine, because it did it first, every multi Doctor story since has no way been more original or inventive (and I love multi Doctor stories). A wonderful review. Gx
The way they pronounce Omega was the normal British way in the days of received pronunciation. I still say Oh-miggah. Same in Evil of the Daleks. See my other post for possible explanation.
Funny story: The Sixth Doctor did meet the Brigadier in the Dimensions in Time special for Children in Need. Of course, this was also a crossover with Eastenders and is considered by basically everyone to not be canon and best forgotten.
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Don't forget the Big Finish stories as well. From a canon standpoint the two may not have met, but the two actors have had many scenes together. I consider the Big Finish stories to be part of my own head canon. As for Dimensions in Time being silly, by that logic should we remove The Gunfighters from canon? I'm not saying Dimensions in Time is canonical, but I did enjoy it for what it was.
I loved this when it first came out. Jon Pertwee was my first doctor as a child and this was the first time I was shown others. Having since seen all the Doctor Who episodes (some only stills with original audio) I can really appreciate how great this was.
One thing I did find interesting was that in this and subsequent visits from Patrick Troughton's Doctor he was a lot lighter of character than in his original run. I didn't see his original episodes until my 40s and I just thought him funny and cheeky and a 'clown'. I think he was originally a lot closer to Pertwee and they lightened him up to give them more notable difference in character.
It worked so well. And as you said it made a great celebration and kickoff to new adventures. I love Nicholas Courtney and I think his Brigadier gives a real grounding for the Doctor in any of the episodes he is in. I was ready for more space adventures but I loved the Doctor coming home to familiar settings with UNIT.
It's a good day when Harbo uploads
Geneva has approved this broadcast.
Do you plan to cover any of the expanded universe attempts at Anniversary specials (eg: Dimensions In Time or Zagreus)?
Dimensions in Time, most likely. Zagreus? Hell no lmao
Still happy that Hartnell was able to participate in some way.
One thing I’ve found quite neat is how well it bookends “The War Games”, which was the first time The Doctor reached out to the Time Lords for help. Doing so then resulted in him being put on trial, forced into regeneration and exiled to Earth with the TARDIS effectively immobilized. “The Three Doctors” would be the SECOND time that The Doctor calls upon the Time Lords for help and this time, he’s given both of his predecessors, keeps his then-current form, is thanked by the Time Lords (even if from afar) and has his exile officially ended and the TARDIS rendered mobile once more…no better way to end the Earthbound Doctor era, imho…😅😁
Great review
14:56 Me: *Darth Nihilus flashbacks*
one thing id like to see is a review of the whole key to time saga, obviously cut down a bit to fit in one review
The Three Doctors is no different from Forever Red. I don’t know whether Ninja Storm was already assured by the time they made it, but Wild Force being the tenth Power Rangers season and the LAST on American soil, they made sure to celebrate THEN just in case. They didn’t start bringing American continent actors (because some were Canadian) to New Zealand until JDF in Dino Thunder. And then because of the 2010 gap year the seasons and the anniversary began to match. Even the crossovery anniversary aspects for the 20th anniversary were mostly in 2014 because of the nature of the production (the 21st anniversary and season). So yeah I completely understand.
Funfact:
As the Serial merely span the time from 30th of December 1972 to 20th of January 1973,
it wasn't even a 10th anniversary - not even a 9½th one.
I wonder why it was sceduled in THAT way ... does anyone know?
Because it was to celebrate the tenth SEASON, and not ten YEARS. It was the first story of season 10
@@thethreerailwayengines825 Ah, there we go ...
At the time of this programme, when I was growing up in the 60s in England, the last letter of the Greek alphabet was pronounced neither omeega (which sounds like "amiga" to me) nor omayga, but ALWAYS Oh-miggah. The same pronunciation was used in Evil of the Daleks for the same reason. It may have been classicists' influence. There are 2 Os in Greek: the little (micro) O, hence O-micron, and the big (mega) O, hence O-mega. So I still pronounce it as Oh-miggah. For the same reason I still say Oh-my-cron, and not Ommee-kron as the medics said during Covid.
5:36 Using Timeranger/Time Force for this joke KILLED me 🤣🤣🤣
What you say about Omega requiring three Doctors to team up makes me hope The Giggle concludes with an Avengers-esque moment where 14 shouts 'Doctors... CONTACT!' and multiple Doctors appear to help fight the Toymaker.
Why? If the first Doctor defeat the Toymaker with a game.
@@mayotango1317 Because it would be fun.
Great vid
An interesting thought about omega is that he was what gallifreyans were before time travel, but that means he was born before the looms and the death of the other. The other MIGHT have been born after the death of omega or during the life of omega and thus if the doctor is a form of the other than this episode could be a reunion that neither understand and the doctor might have killed his own friend 😢
P.S. omega reproduced before the looms the natural way so his oblivion state is all the more tragic to him 😮
I feel like Harbo’s just putting off Heaven Sent/Hell Bent at this point. 😂
It's funny to think that this was 50 years ago: I remember watching it in 1973. The character of Omega was quite arresting. The funny blue and red amorphous monster was much scarier than the gellguards to me as a schoolboy at the time.
I love the bubble monsters! I do. I appreciate the creativity behind them…the effort and how damn hot it must’ve been in those suits for the actors. My God where we’re the vents in those costumes so the performers could breathe?!
I love this story a lot. It's just so fun
I always kind of liked "The Three Doctors" even though the monsters look like Christmas Fruit Cakes and I used to joke that the Timelords have Rockabilly haircuts. :)
I swear you mispronouncing Omega as Omeeega or Omayga sometimes, but then saying it correctly sometimes... I thought you were trolling us until your comment at the end.
At 10:34 dose this line get called back to in day of the doctor
Man at 2:43,THAT SWANS PEEEE-ISED!😂
I wonder how the first doctor would have reacted to all the years of doctor who especially now
After the other night???well.....😵🥴🤬🤢🤮🤮🤮
That should sum it up!!😑🤘✌️🍻
Hartnell wanted Troughton to succeed him, we know that. Jon never spoke bad of Bill. I would think he would not be happy. Not because of the content but because he was not the Doctor. Bill loved the role.
Technically the brigadier did meet the 6th doctor in dimensions in time
I kind of viewed this as the episode where The Brigadier finally 100% accepted 3rd Doctor as The Doctor.
New to your channel I'm struggling to watch Torchwood children of earth and miracle day do you have any videos about those shows many thanks
Watch the 1st 3 seasons of Torchy!!
1 and 2 series,Great....children of earth (series 3)WONDERFUL..
Miracle day(series 4)its...ok?meh??certain things I liked,but children of earth IS THE GRIPPER!!
Perfect celebration 🍪
Hastily rewritten due to Hartnells health.
No! A beautifully written COMEDY. It was never intended to be serious.
It was for its day and I enjoy it for that
Right! Really good for 1973 and still remains one of my favs.
Didn't the Brig meet the 5th Doctor on Madrywn Undead?
He didn't meet 6th
I was annoyed that Omega didn't return during Flux especially when they started talking about anti-matter
Well, I thought The Three Doctors was pretty good. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
I remember watching it back in the 70s and being very disappointed by the aliens as they looked ridiculous even as a tenyear old i felt let down by the producers and the BBC at least they could have brought back the cyber men rather than beings that looked like melted jelly babies.
I thought they were pretty good. For 1973 that is really good. Plus the bubble material must have been extremely inflexible to work with. Keep in mind the the idea was to show that the bubble monsters were created from the same stuff as Omega’s world…It was as if Omega willed one into being and they came off of a wall. Remember Omega’s will? And that material must have been very expensive so that had to use it sparingly.
Every time you say Omega like that, the red mist descends across my vision.
Blame the episode lmao
I liked "The Three Doctors." The only thing I didn't like about it was Jo's terrible outfit. LOL.
That was very much in for the time. And Katy brought in her clothes from her own wardrobe.
I still just dont get at that time of 82-83,why the fuck the production came up with showing pics of everyone, and a damn wax 4th doctor??!!gotta make adjustments,around the left arm!!
There had to be a few uncomfortable 🤦♂️🤷♂️'s while trying to pose with such a scary thing 😂!!sheesh..
Those were publicity stills. And if you’re wondering why Pertwee is kissing Baker’s hand is because the two actors did not get along. Jon felt Tom should have been in the special and was being very selfish. Plus both of them debated which one saved Doctor Who. Truth is they both did, in their own way. I don’t know if they resolved the issue before Jon’s death.
honestly, I kinda liked that scene where omega is devastated at what he is, it really humanises him, he isn't just this big powerful villain similar to darth vader. he was a scientist trying to help his people who went insane. if you start to view him a little more empathetically, you can kind of see it
his reaction isn't just due to his plans being messed up, think about what he has become, he physically does not exist anymore, that's a devastating, terrifying existence
1:58 I hope we're not suggesting that Silver Nemesis isn't awesome
Omega not omEga
Nobody cares.
I feel the Brigadier is too pig headed in this story. He's seen some amazing things in his time with the Doctor but now he won't listen not just to him but to Benton? And he never thought to look into the Tardis after all these years? He's gone to the mat for the Doctor with gov't bureaucrats, why is he suddenly acting like one?
The Brig was irritated because he didn’t know what was going on. The Brig always is annoyed until he gets control of the situation.
Shots fired at AEW!😄
Is the Three Doctors a true celebration of the years of the doctors' adventures, or was there something totally different that we never got to see. The Omega story was the tip of the ice berg. There were many ways this could of gone down. There is a roam that this story was part of a massive new take on the origins of the time lords as well as the truth behind their origins, which is connected to Earth's involvement in the doctors own history. Omega origins and the doctors connections are a little more puzzling, from the 3 doctors' story it said Omega is older than them, but sometimes that is where a mystery comes into this story, the doctor is 900 years old and Omega is 1000 years older than the doctor question is is Omega that old and is the age of any time lord true in the mythos of those time lords. The first doctor knew Omega and Morbus and not forgetting that old man who lived behind the doctors home on the mountain in a cave who was even older than either Omega and Morbus. So maybe age to a time lord is just an excuse? 900 to 1000,0007,000 a time doesn't need a age because they are ever more than time itself with regenerations of infinity if 12 is just an excuse for their true state of time?
That UNIT tower is part of an era that isn't canon
one or two bait comments might be fun, but are you really happy posting multiple per day? you must have something better to do
@@daiyahigashikatahe isn't wrong though.
As a fan of Doctor Who since 1971, I both love AND hate the show!
I love Classic Who, and hate New Who! I fell out of love with New Who with Matt Smith's frankly ridiculous, "fish custard!" And "gender fluid" Timelords / Timeladies / Timethings are a step too far, in my opinion!
Additionally, based on my experiences, New Who fans are extremely rude and insulting, if you dare to comment, for example, that a female Doctor is "ridiculous!"
I vow to NEVER comment on New Who again, and I'd be happy to see it cancelled! (Again!)
Long live Classic Who, and cancellation to New Who! 🤣
Sorry, this is starting to really annoy me. You do this, the girl on who culture does this, and it’s frustrating.
It’s pronounced Oh-may-ga not oh-mee-ga.
Not in the narrative. The character is constantly referred to as Oh-me-ga within the story itself
It's an Ozzie thing I think
@@ZoomerUnionhow did you manage to miss the comment above yours
Propper gay now dr who
what
Modern day Doctor Who isnt as good as classic Doctor Who but I suppose personal choice.