It’s because he doesn’t have the character or influence of someone like Arnold or Ronnie. I mean look at Tom platz, man has never won a mr Olympia but because of his personality he has blown up on the internet.
@Thouxanbanquincy yeah but like 3 of the Mr olympias Ronnie won doesn't belong to him Markus,Flex and Kevin should have won when they were th runner up the only part Ronnie had better was the back and the reason Ronnie got more recognition and the reason he is one of the most popular bodybuilder is because of his legendary rival Jay
@@stevejamieson8468 lol! Arnold looked like shit in his last “O”. That Sandow was given to him as a farewell gift. Prior to that, Arnold retired for a reason, more interested in making movies. He was a scientist of the sport but if his head wasn’t going to be in it, he would have started losing immediately (baring typical politics in the sport). He retired at the right time. He certainly left his mark on the sport. Had the opportunity to meet Arnold once. He was an A-Hole at the moment but it did not change how I thought of him as a BB. The man was incredible.
@@FXMAN66 You misinterpreted my statement. Arnold came in on short notice after a 5 year layoff. My statement had to do with if he had been steadily competing in that stretch.
I’m so glad he is still around, a true champion legend and guru one of the greats of not the greatest, to me Arnold and Lee are super super close, I’d say Lee takes it because he was after Arnold and their was more know how and more wisdom for a harder freakier but still graceful physique, Lee to me did a proper Arnold 2.0 but Lee is his own man and champion, so it’s so hard for me to choose between the two, I tend to try to go by decades or eras of bodybuilding to judge the greatest cuz their are many.❤
@@Ohgetoffended if a typical bro split works for you then do it. Some people run a push pull legs split, or full body or upper lower or the Arnold split. You just gotta get the right volume for the muscle
@@JSmedic1 well yeah you should have a plan of attack but it doesn’t matter if that plan is in a bro split, push pull legs, upper and lower, Arnold split, or even full body. If you get the right volume for the muscle and the right amount of stress then you’re good. A lot of people get hung on which split they should use when all of them work and many people use all of them, so I tell people to pick a split that works for you and go with it. No one split is greater.
When ur natural and not using roids, the limiting factor is that the muscle needs a longer resting period to heal and grow. That's why you split ur body up, so u can work out several times a week and not overtrain.
Lee had eight victories that could have been 9 to win in his debut in '83 where he won 3, but he was a rookie and it was an almost impossible mission. If we talk about limit muscle development, Ronnie is the GOAT!! without a doubt.
That’s because on how you feel, everyone’s muscles is the same, they all follow a law, everyone’s feels not the same but everyone muscles is made out of the same cells, your a clown stop being arrogant, he won O 8x he knows his shit
GOAT bar none. Size, extreme conditioning, small waist, aesthetics, basically arnie v2 (due to advancements). Got out with his heath intact. What's not to ❤and he's a gentleman to boot
I’ve been following this philosophy for a while and hearing this was exactly what i’ve been thinking this whole time! You can’t build a balanced structure by treated your body parts as seperate structures, everything should be working together equally like a system of cogs.
I've said it since I started lifting weights. No way should calves ever be trained once a week more like everyday. Overtraining word is so crazy. If your eating and sleeping well working out 3 hours a day is a major benefit not a side effect that scientists say. Science is holding people back. I trained 3 hours a day and every 8 weeks twice a day upto 4 hour lifting weights I trained to the point of fainting several times within first 2 years. I gained more muscle than people on roads I ate so clean 24/7 eating 400g of protein a day I gained 120lbs in my first 2 year and stayed there at 12% bodyfat
Its like boxers they trained for 10 hours a day like tyson. That was there job. To get smarter in life you read and learn so many hours of the day tou don't overtrian your brain. But over working that's when tou need to realise the difference. Less is more they say maybe for some beasts like dorain Yates etc but I trained high volume ton of sets for even smaller bodyparts. At 19 I was 250lbs 20" arms no gear ever. 28" waist 6 pack I also grew 6 inches in that time aswell. Madness.
I train full body everyday. Some days heavy some days light, some days just body weight but I figure if my boy has to work as one unit everyday then it needs to be trained as one unit everyday
@@busterboy7507 one hour of intense work including rest between sets. Fifteen minutes of warm up initially and fifteen minutes of cool down stretching in the end. 15+60+15. 90 minutes in total from entry to exit. I use this
I workout everything when i go to rhe gym. Even if its 2 exercises i do what i feel targes the muscles properly. Ive seen my body change like never before...rather then one day this and one day that
Train a muscle or muscle group, let it recover, train it again. If your training is intense, diet and sleep are on point, you should be training everything again every 4th or 5th day. Helps to train two muscle groups per workout as well.
You're not wrong, man. I do that, and I'm getting stronger and stronger. I focus on different groups of muscles a day depending on the day and try to work em sore before letting heal before hitting them again. It really does work.
IFBB pros on steroids can train body parts more than once a week. Lee is 100% right. However for nattys, I agree once every 4-5 days is enough, to avoid overtraining and injury.
That’s why i like ppl-miscellaneous-ppl. If you’re hitting chest, you’re going to hit your front delts and triceps anyways, why not just do it all in one session? Same for your typical pull day, i’m going to hit by biceps if i am hitting my back. You get 72-96 hours to recover while still working out every day. It’s the most efficient split and has the most benefits. Or you can do ppl-chest-back-arms-legs. I don’t think it’s as good, but some swear by it.
@@ninocrown3247man fuck that im training tri's and chest atleast 2x a week yall trippin i enjoy lifting i dont feel worn out at all i love to feel a chest pump before i start my day😂😂
@@ninocrown3247 wrong. You can train everything multiple times a week as a natural too and make good progress. If you completely destroy your legs once a week , fine , but mine got alot stronger being used not destroyed twice or more
I love Lee . I was at his first Olympia win in 84 . As you get older you need more rest in between workouts . If your natural you will definitely need more recovery time . All genetic freaks and guys on gear don’t tell you that .
I’m on a 3 day cycle. Upper body, core and back, legs. Then it repeats, no rest days because the muscle groups already get 2 full days before hitting them again.
Interesting program, but why not do back and chest on the same day. Easy to superset and distributes the exercises more evenly through out the week. I'm not saying you should stop what your doing, but I'm genuinely curious.
You will be better off with push pull legs I guess. And also rest days are very important not because of the muscle but our body has an inflamatory response to training and in order to grow well it needs rest day, oure glicogen restore better on rest days
If you’re not needing a rest day, you’re not training hard enough. Rest days are essential to combat cns fatigue. I went from 7 days to 6 and then to 5 and I’ve never made better progress
Eric helms advocates full body. After working out for five years on a bro split, i switched to full body and still doing it for the last 1 year. Full body pump is amazing, and i made most gains during the last year.
Yup! Best results for me at least, and also will throw in some 5x5 strength training to break through plateaus with any of my compound lifts for good measure.
He's so right...I used to work my chest and arms 3 times a week and when I was on stage I blew everyone away especially the people that said I was over training
@@deanfraser419Stop being a pessimist and start understanding that there are different training routines. Full Body Workouts are done 3 times a week. You take 4 days off a week for full muscle recovery. Yes, the workouts are longer. But the full recovery between workouts is the benefit. 👍🏾
Full body in one day? That is ridiculous you need at least 2 warmup sets plus 8 to 10 heavy sets per body part, impossible to do all of that in one day we are talking about 120 sets a day? It would take you about 4 hours that is overtraining and only one day for revovery? Wrong you need at least 48 hours using steroids and 72 hours for a natural body to fully rest and recover to let the muscle grow, no serious advanced or professional bodybuilder does that .
@@peakoil-ko5oq 3 sets are barely the warmup sets because you can't start heavy on the first set, not enough stimulation for failure and muscle growth🤷♂️
@@billyzyckowski2865You should keep in mind that he helped Dorian Yates achieving his Olympia Title. You can guess on which base he was training;) Furthermore the Olympia in the years, Mentzer was competing, there was a lot of politics involved. For this reason, the 1980 Olympia is one of the most controversal in the BB history. Thank you for reading. 🫡
You should keep in mind that he helped Dorian Yates achieving his Olympia. You can guess on which base he was training;) Furthermore the Olympia in the years Mentzer was competing, there was a lot of politics. That’s why the 1980 Olympia is on of the most controversal in the BB history. Thank you for reading🫡
Because you still need volume. You hit a body part for on day, let’s say for 1 hour, the rest for a week? There’s nothing for it to heal from at that point. That’s why PPL and Full Body have become so popular, because of increased volume throughout the week instead of throughout 1 day
8X Mr.Oylmpia Lee Haney, WILL be the FIRST person that recovery IS IMPORTANT for muscle maturity,growth and balance.... hence his 3days on(Mon-Chest/Arms Tue-Back/Shoulders Wed-Legs) 1day off(Thurs- Rest) abs Traps AND Calves EVERY training session Repeat
@@michelrood2966 really? i thought he said you have to squat. “its the best quad exercise, people don’t do it because its hard”, meaning i thought he did it every leg session
Tell me you know little about programming without telling me you know little about programming. Guys a goat in BB for sure, but he’s showing himself up here
@@dbo4506 schoenfeld literally did the most comprehensive review on training frequency for maximizing growth a couple years ago and this was the exact conclusion.
Lee Haney knows his stuff but tons upon tons of bodybuilders do this now. there is nothing wrong with it and doing push and pull days etc may have worked for him
actually, powerlifters train 2 muscle groups per workout and 3 on SBD days. training usually looks like: Day 1 - Push and legs Day 2 - Push and pull Day 3 - Rest Day 4 - Push and legs Day 5 - Rest Day 6 - SBD (Squat, Bench, Deadlift) Day 7 - Optional bodybuilding or rest
Stick to it long enough. Assuming you’re consuming enough calories/protein, your body will adapt. But it will take time… it WORKS. The body is a marvelous creation.
Facts. I’m on an upper lower split where upper body is trained 2 days a week and lower body is trained 3 days a week and have progressed farther than my bf doing bro splits.
@@njmallday correct it’s anecdotal. But if a woman is making more gains than a man I would wonder what the difference in routine is especially since he is eating more than me and more protein.
@@stanclips8227 again this is what we call an anecdote. This is simply an account that supports the video. An account of a woman who chose the split that is best supported by science(splits that workout a muscle 2-3 times a week) and a man who chose bro splits because his old trainer did them. But when a woman is packing on muscle faster than a man I think it is best to look at the routine especially when he is eating more than me and eating more protein and we started at the same time. He’ll tell anyone I have delts and traps bigger than his when I bs my upper body days but simply train them more often.
@@Blue-wv3le first off, the bro split isn’t necessarily defined as one muscle group a day and training frequency is optional. Training intensity and genetics are also a big factor. For example, Tom Platz trained legs once a week and found it to have better results because of how intensely he could train. I’m not saying that what you are pointing out is wrong, but there are many factors and you can’t attribute you gaining more muscle than your bf because of just one of those factors.
Exactly! I'm not taking advice from former steroid users seriously. I squeeze workouts into my busy schedule and drink protein shakes after. If I'd been using steroids for the past decade my body would look significantly better.
He’s right and wrong. This is very subjective some respond best to once a week grouping, others push pull, others upper lower, others full body. Find what works best for you kings and keep moving forward.🔥💜
Dorian is also a bit of a genetic freak. Taking an approach on both might be best. Would take time to figure out the proper program but there's solid evidence for both
So u choose one awesome dude who was roided to extremes and trained harder than anyone to discredit what he says? What he’s saying is right for average guys not roided
Lee Haney is absolutely correct. I see guys saying today is my back day, or arm day. Ive always followed the old school bodybuilding of two body parts per workout. Then these one body part guys ask "how can i get like you". They want the same results with less work
Training a body part once every 9 days can be very effective for gaining muscle. High intensity, low volume, to muscular failure, 3 to 7 reps, heavy compound movements. Training one body part multiple times a week does not work for everyone just like training once every 9 days might not work for everyone. Plus Lee forgot to mention that his recovery time was sped up due to the peds he and his competitor's were taking.
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Never understood that this man doesn't get the recognition as other icons in the sport.
@@jamesvick5920sorry, but no I don't. That's why I said "never understood"
He thinks its tacist. Obviously its racist he is black thats why only white guys are popular like Arnold or Ronnie Coleman😂
It’s because he doesn’t have the character or influence of someone like Arnold or Ronnie. I mean look at Tom platz, man has never won a mr Olympia but because of his personality he has blown up on the internet.
Because he has no social media, thats why nobody knows him
@@jamesvick5920 because him telling everyone to workout everyday is nonsense?
The fact that this man won 8 Mr olympias and there weren't any controversial wins and his physique looked human he is ahead of Ronnie in my opinion
His era wasnt as competitive as ronnies
Yes it was!
@Thouxanbanquincy yeah but like 3 of the Mr olympias Ronnie won doesn't belong to him Markus,Flex and Kevin should have won when they were th runner up the only part Ronnie had better was the back and the reason Ronnie got more recognition and the reason he is one of the most popular bodybuilder is because of his legendary rival Jay
Markus was still bigger than this guy and he traint every musel one ate a time he had a fucking Bizeps day
@@FBI--OPEN--UP--- bro ruhl had zero conditioning what you on about
UNDEFEATED! UNCONQUERED! GOAT!
I FUCKING LOVE LEE
Lee haney is true mr olypmia bodybuilder of all time😂🎉❤🎳😂🎉❤
The G.O.A.T.
Lee great
Greatest bodybuilder of all time!!!
Nice to see Lee. He looks healthy. Wish him continued wellness.
Tren bologna sandwiches work well
@@yahwehrapha987Stfu with your corny ass joke
@@yahwehrapha987 make it to to his age and then speak your nonsense , u must've ate hater sandwiches 😂
@@yahwehrapha987bodybuilders back in the day used less roids
My favorite Mr O
The Godfather 💯
FORGOTTEN GOAT
Forgotten? Lol
Maybe by you
I lifted 150 kg for biceps can you?
@@captainbiceps-cr4ks I did 150.5kg, beat that
Lee Haney is a Godly man and all class. His physique is a more complete aesthetic work of art than the Olympians of the last 15 to 20 years.
THE GOAT💪
so fkn true.. reps are king!
🐐🐐🐐🐐
Legend says Lee Haney won more bodybuilding titles than Arnold Schwarzenegger. Titles in a row every year they say.
Legend says? It's not a conspiracy, Lee has more Olympia titles and there were all back to back
Lee also had the advantage of Arnold retiring when he did, Arnold easily would have won from 1976-79 if he had not retired.
@@stevejamieson8468 lol! Arnold looked like shit in his last “O”. That Sandow was given to him as a farewell gift. Prior to that, Arnold retired for a reason, more interested in making movies. He was a scientist of the sport but if his head wasn’t going to be in it, he would have started losing immediately (baring typical politics in the sport). He retired at the right time. He certainly left his mark on the sport. Had the opportunity to meet Arnold once. He was an A-Hole at the moment but it did not change how I thought of him as a BB. The man was incredible.
@@FXMAN66 You misinterpreted my statement. Arnold came in on short notice after a 5 year layoff. My statement had to do with if he had been steadily competing in that stretch.
Arnold was given the 1970 Olympia, and 1972. He was no match for Sergio.
OG Lee Haney was a MONSTER. A true legend!!! 💪🏽
I’m so glad he is still around, a true champion legend and guru one of the greats of not the greatest, to me Arnold and Lee are super super close, I’d say Lee takes it because he was after Arnold and their was more know how and more wisdom for a harder freakier but still graceful physique, Lee to me did a proper Arnold 2.0 but Lee is his own man and champion, so it’s so hard for me to choose between the two, I tend to try to go by decades or eras of bodybuilding to judge the greatest cuz their are many.❤
Lee
Lee was my hero back when I was lifting. Old age caught up with me!
It doesn’t matter what split you run brothers. Just go hit the gym and better yourself. That’s all you need
It can make a difference over a period of time, but i think it and some other things people say can be overblown or exaggerated.
It matters. Quality over scattered quantities makes a huge difference in the results.
Wait yeah I’m going “wtf”. So is Chest day, back day, leg day a bad cycle? Like wtf that’s all I know
@@Ohgetoffended if a typical bro split works for you then do it. Some people run a push pull legs split, or full body or upper lower or the Arnold split. You just gotta get the right volume for the muscle
@@JSmedic1 well yeah you should have a plan of attack but it doesn’t matter if that plan is in a bro split, push pull legs, upper and lower, Arnold split, or even full body. If you get the right volume for the muscle and the right amount of stress then you’re good. A lot of people get hung on which split they should use when all of them work and many people use all of them, so I tell people to pick a split that works for you and go with it. No one split is greater.
Progressive Overload, Training with Intensity
Loved Lee Haney. Great body and seems like a good overall dude
Born again christian
When ur natural and not using roids, the limiting factor is that the muscle needs a longer resting period to heal and grow. That's why you split ur body up, so u can work out several times a week and not overtrain.
Here comes the week girly none title getting experts that need rest.
@@PutMeInDaGameCoach I guarantee whatever team you coach is losing
@@PutMeInDaGameCoach mate rest BUILDS muscle your muscles don't grow when you're working out they grow between sessions.
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@@drugfreelifter it takes 3 weeks for your atrophy
Legend 💯
GOD IS EVERYTHING FOREVER BUT PAY ATTENTION IN WHICH CONTEXT THE WORD EVERYTHING IS USED 🙏
Legend! Great to see him again.
Dorian Yates on the picture next to him literally did this..
It's not about who is speaking the gospel, it's about how he got his results. We can learn from everybody
Its been proven one muscle per day is a shitty split dorian yates had elite genetics and steroids most people dont
@@bwor2051 yeah Dorian hates beat Ronnie Coleman and his genetics are the best and they are all on the same gear so keep looking for more excuses.
@@nickk707 Keep training one muscle per day then and enjoy making 0 progress
@@bwor2051 yep just like mike mentzer, Dorian Yates, Tom platz
Lee had eight victories that could have been 9 to win in his debut in '83 where he won 3, but he was a rookie and it was an almost impossible mission. If we talk about limit muscle development, Ronnie is the GOAT!! without a doubt.
Everything
My childhood hero. I remember his 😁 💪🏻💪🏻
The Undefeated Mr. Olympia
repeat with no drugs in Bodybuildung .. this is the victory
Do the best split that works for you everyone is different
what abroad statement
No not when your training for something specific
bro splits are proven to be less effective than working each muscle group 2x or more per week
Lee haneys split
Day one chest tris and bis
Day two. Legs
Day three back and shoulders
Rest
Repeat
That’s because on how you feel, everyone’s muscles is the same, they all follow a law, everyone’s feels not the same but everyone muscles is made out of the same cells, your a clown stop being arrogant, he won O 8x he knows his shit
Whitouth steroids its difficult to train 3times a week every muscle
GOAT bar none. Size, extreme conditioning, small waist, aesthetics, basically arnie v2 (due to advancements). Got out with his heath intact. What's not to ❤and he's a gentleman to boot
Training each muscle twice or three times a week is best
I’ve been following this philosophy for a while and hearing this was exactly what i’ve been thinking this whole time! You can’t build a balanced structure by treated your body parts as seperate structures, everything should be working together equally like a system of cogs.
I've said it since I started lifting weights. No way should calves ever be trained once a week more like everyday.
Overtraining word is so crazy. If your eating and sleeping well working out 3 hours a day is a major benefit not a side effect that scientists say.
Science is holding people back.
I trained 3 hours a day and every 8 weeks twice a day upto 4 hour lifting weights I trained to the point of fainting several times within first 2 years.
I gained more muscle than people on roads I ate so clean 24/7 eating 400g of protein a day I gained 120lbs in my first 2 year and stayed there at 12% bodyfat
Its like boxers they trained for 10 hours a day like tyson. That was there job.
To get smarter in life you read and learn so many hours of the day tou don't overtrian your brain. But over working that's when tou need to realise the difference. Less is more they say maybe for some beasts like dorain Yates etc but I trained high volume ton of sets for even smaller bodyparts. At 19 I was 250lbs 20" arms no gear ever. 28" waist 6 pack I also grew 6 inches in that time aswell. Madness.
@@shaunmacready701 Nah dude theres noo fucking way people train calves a day
Let this man BLOW UP AGAINNNNNN. LEE HANEY LEE HANEY
No💀
I train full body everyday. Some days heavy some days light, some days just body weight but I figure if my boy has to work as one unit everyday then it needs to be trained as one unit everyday
How many hours full body workout take?
@@kristiskristis3279I usually go for an hour and a half to two hours or more sometimes
@@kristiskristis3279 same amount as a normal workout, the volume is the same, the sets done in a bro split are spread across the week.
@@nikhilpise8209 how long is a normal workout?
@@busterboy7507 one hour of intense work including rest between sets.
Fifteen minutes of warm up initially and fifteen minutes of cool down stretching in the end. 15+60+15.
90 minutes in total from entry to exit.
I use this
Straight facts. I'm starting to go back to the old ways and I'm getting the results that I want
May you give us a brief example of what you mean?✌🏿
Go for it
Example
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Workout 3 days 1 rest day, repeat. Focus on form instead of going heavy
Cannot more agree
I workout everything when i go to rhe gym. Even if its 2 exercises i do what i feel targes the muscles properly. Ive seen my body change like never before...rather then one day this and one day that
yessssss thanks for giving me words for that
Train a muscle or muscle group, let it recover, train it again. If your training is intense, diet and sleep are on point, you should be training everything again every 4th or 5th day. Helps to train two muscle groups per workout as well.
You're not wrong, man. I do that, and I'm getting stronger and stronger. I focus on different groups of muscles a day depending on the day and try to work em sore before letting heal before hitting them again. It really does work.
IFBB pros on steroids can train body parts more than once a week. Lee is 100% right. However for nattys, I agree once every 4-5 days is enough, to avoid overtraining and injury.
That’s why i like ppl-miscellaneous-ppl.
If you’re hitting chest, you’re going to hit your front delts and triceps anyways, why not just do it all in one session? Same for your typical pull day, i’m going to hit by biceps if i am hitting my back.
You get 72-96 hours to recover while still working out every day.
It’s the most efficient split and has the most benefits.
Or you can do ppl-chest-back-arms-legs.
I don’t think it’s as good, but some swear by it.
@@ninocrown3247man fuck that im training tri's and chest atleast 2x a week yall trippin i enjoy lifting i dont feel worn out at all i love to feel a chest pump before i start my day😂😂
@@ninocrown3247 wrong. You can train everything multiple times a week as a natural too and make good progress. If you completely destroy your legs once a week , fine , but mine got alot stronger being used not destroyed twice or more
I love Lee . I was at his first Olympia win in 84 . As you get older you need more rest in between workouts . If your natural you will definitely need more recovery time . All genetic freaks and guys on gear don’t tell you that .
Haney&Yates era greats got overshadowed by Ronnie,Cutler era..And RUHL!(My Favorite!)
I’m on a 3 day cycle. Upper body, core and back, legs. Then it repeats, no rest days because the muscle groups already get 2 full days before hitting them again.
Interesting program, but why not do back and chest on the same day. Easy to superset and distributes the exercises more evenly through out the week. I'm not saying you should stop what your doing, but I'm genuinely curious.
The rest day is for your neural system and stress. You WILL get fatigued after weeks of not getting a rest day (assuming u train to failure)
You will be better off with push pull legs I guess. And also rest days are very important not because of the muscle but our body has an inflamatory response to training and in order to grow well it needs rest day, oure glicogen restore better on rest days
If you’re not needing a rest day, you’re not training hard enough. Rest days are essential to combat cns fatigue. I went from 7 days to 6 and then to 5 and I’ve never made better progress
@@scotthogan1386me too, 5x per week has been magical.
Always got critiqued how I worked out bc I would hit multiple muscles in a day.
No Worries Eric Hood....
I ONLY do FULL BODY(multiple body parts) workouts when I GO to CLASS(Gym)💯🤝👍
and thats why you dont evolve, its more about periodizattion
Same. I workout whole body 2x a week if my body is not that sur I'll go 5x a week.
Mike Mentzer enters.
I swear peeps treat Lee Haney like a middle child. Arnold the first child and Ronnie the last child getting all the love.
🐐
Greatest ever
And retired before his Prime.
No need to remain jacked after retirement. No health issues
Eric helms advocates full body. After working out for five years on a bro split, i switched to full body and still doing it for the last 1 year. Full body pump is amazing, and i made most gains during the last year.
Facts
Push pull leg split/Arnold split
You get a chance of training each muscle group 2x a week
On a 7 day Gregorian calendar split. GL with recovery.
Thats good if you on something but if u Go natural you will need the recovery Brother.
Yup! Best results for me at least, and also will throw in some 5x5 strength training to break through plateaus with any of my compound lifts for good measure.
@@B.S10 You will get minimum of 48 hrs rest per muscle group if you include one rest/light cardio day after PPL.
@@patleonard1036 you need 72hrs. Unless you take steroids
He's so right...I used to work my chest and arms 3 times a week and when I was on stage I blew everyone away especially the people that said I was over training
You blew everyone? Was it a gay contest?
How much gear were you on?
@@deanfraser419Stop being a pessimist and start understanding that there are different training routines.
Full Body Workouts are done 3 times a week.
You take 4 days off a week for full muscle recovery.
Yes, the workouts are longer.
But the full recovery between workouts is the benefit. 👍🏾
How many sets a week per body part did you do?
For anyone wondering, steroids fasten your recovery time.
Not necessarily even a powerlifter but just someone who lifts heavier loads in the 6-8 rep range, its also the most ideal for strengtg
both methods are correct, certain muscle groups deserve more attention than others though.
Lee Haney knows his stuff. Very underrated.
How Tf is someone supposed to do a whole body workout every day without taking peds
@Oliver g with that mindset you will never know .
@@oliverg3184just do it coward
@@toastedcheezez9096 you physically can’t bro lmao if your training with high intensity your body will get injured
You guys just soft. You can do full body workout naturally
Even powerlifters need more frequency than training a body part once a week.
Well said👍🏻
Full body every other day, getting huge
Leroy colbert
Full body in one day? That is ridiculous you need at least 2 warmup sets plus 8 to 10 heavy sets per body part, impossible to do all of that in one day we are talking about 120 sets a day? It would take you about 4 hours that is overtraining and only one day for revovery? Wrong you need at least 48 hours using steroids and 72 hours for a natural body to fully rest and recover to let the muscle grow, no serious advanced or professional bodybuilder does that .
@@user-hy4jt8sr6y it takes me 1hr 45 min to finish my workouts , only do 3 sets per body part
@@peakoil-ko5oq 3 sets are barely the warmup sets because you can't start heavy on the first set, not enough stimulation for failure and muscle growth🤷♂️
@@user-hy4jt8sr6y why am I getting stronger and bigger then? Because my workouts are working
"You can train hard or you can train long, but you can‘t do both." - Mike Mentzer
Yup that’s why he never won any mr Olympias🤷♂️🤷♂️ cry
@@billyzyckowski2865You should keep in mind that he helped Dorian Yates achieving his Olympia Title. You can guess on which base he was training;) Furthermore the Olympia in the years, Mentzer was competing, there was a lot of politics involved. For this reason, the 1980 Olympia is one of the most controversal in the BB history. Thank you for reading. 🫡
You should keep in mind that he helped Dorian Yates achieving his Olympia. You can guess on which base he was training;) Furthermore the Olympia in the years Mentzer was competing, there was a lot of politics. That’s why the 1980 Olympia is on of the most controversal in the BB history. Thank you for reading🫡
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Lee Haney, the lat spread that creates a solar eclipse!
I did everything everyday. Never rest. Always keep shit moving.
That sounds like a terrible plan. Muscle needs recovery. Good luck
@@AS-pug different muscle groups bud. I felt fine. I wouldn’t recommend hat type of plan without trt
I could see recovery being necessary for both Hyperteophy and strength gains. Wonder why he implies less recovery needed for hypertrophy .
Same reason you rest longer on a compound lift, you exert way more energy lifting near your absolute max that just doing isolation work.
Because you still need volume. You hit a body part for on day, let’s say for 1 hour, the rest for a week? There’s nothing for it to heal from at that point. That’s why PPL and Full Body have become so popular, because of increased volume throughout the week instead of throughout 1 day
@@Eheiou
💯% AGREED!!!!
8X Mr.Oylmpia Lee Haney,
WILL be the FIRST person that recovery IS IMPORTANT for
muscle maturity,growth and balance....
hence his 3days on(Mon-Chest/Arms Tue-Back/Shoulders Wed-Legs)
1day off(Thurs- Rest)
abs Traps AND Calves EVERY training session
Repeat
Honestly, I’m on the push, pull, legs, Arnold split rn
This is why I train Upper one day and lower the next
How you,re going with It?
Takes way to long two muscle groups per session MAX if your going to faliure and resting properly
@wade McKnight I agree same here I even purchased a push up board
Going pretty good. I'm on a bulk so I'm gaining a lot of muscle. Still in my noobie gains phase
Do you work them to the max every time? Or you save energy to keep hitting them during the week?
Him and Dexter Jackson's career were both crazy. 8x mr O and like a million other side shows people dont know a lot about.
Tom Platz only worked his legs (the most well developed and most well respected legs in all of bodybuilding) every 2 weeks.
You are not Tom Platz
No. He SQUATTED once every two weeks.
@@michelrood2966 really? i thought he said you have to squat. “its the best quad exercise, people don’t do it because its hard”, meaning i thought he did it every leg session
u saw how he trained
@@michelrood2966 nope. He trained legs every two weeks.
Tell me you know little about programming without telling me you know little about programming. Guys a goat in BB for sure, but he’s showing himself up here
The only bb that improved as he stayed in competition. Others declined the longer they stayed in.
THE GREAT!!!!!!
When volume is accounted for, frequency doesn’t matter
EXACTLY!
Not true. Frequency will always play factor. To say it doesn’t matter all… breh please.
@@dbo4506 schoenfeld literally did the most comprehensive review on training frequency for maximizing growth a couple years ago and this was the exact conclusion.
You have something that's called a junk volume
Yes it does.
Lee Haney knows his stuff but tons upon tons of bodybuilders do this now. there is nothing wrong with it and doing push and pull days etc may have worked for him
accomplished and intelligent people have different philosophies for training - train hard and find what works for you
For those who use the "juice" can train the whole body two or three times a week.😎😎😎😎😎😎
Depends on which drugs you take, how much you rest and how fast you can heal
not really
@@drippin5762 yes really
Listen to This Man People.....He's in my two Top Favorite Bodybuilders. Dorian being the other 💯👌💯
actually, powerlifters train 2 muscle groups per workout and 3 on SBD days. training usually looks like:
Day 1 - Push and legs
Day 2 - Push and pull
Day 3 - Rest
Day 4 - Push and legs
Day 5 - Rest
Day 6 - SBD (Squat, Bench, Deadlift)
Day 7 - Optional bodybuilding or rest
Titán de época....
These people that have the right genetics are full off it.
This program works for me ...our muscles need rest ...I tried doing push pull shit ...but my performance reduced
Me too I lost strength when I switched to ppl so I reversed back to what has always worked for me
Stick to it long enough. Assuming you’re consuming enough calories/protein, your body will adapt. But it will take time… it WORKS. The body is a marvelous creation.
Facts. I’m on an upper lower split where upper body is trained 2 days a week and lower body is trained 3 days a week and have progressed farther than my bf doing bro splits.
That's not scientific at all
@@njmallday correct it’s anecdotal. But if a woman is making more gains than a man I would wonder what the difference in routine is especially since he is eating more than me and more protein.
Now,boys and girls…that’s what we call bro science.
@@stanclips8227 again this is what we call an anecdote. This is simply an account that supports the video. An account of a woman who chose the split that is best supported by science(splits that workout a muscle 2-3 times a week) and a man who chose bro splits because his old trainer did them.
But when a woman is packing on muscle faster than a man I think it is best to look at the routine especially when he is eating more than me and eating more protein and we started at the same time. He’ll tell anyone I have delts and traps bigger than his when I bs my upper body days but simply train them more often.
@@Blue-wv3le first off, the bro split isn’t necessarily defined as one muscle group a day and training frequency is optional. Training intensity and genetics are also a big factor. For example, Tom Platz trained legs once a week and found it to have better results because of how intensely he could train. I’m not saying that what you are pointing out is wrong, but there are many factors and you can’t attribute you gaining more muscle than your bf because of just one of those factors.
as a powerlifter i can say hes right this split is what most of us follow one thing a day focus and go heavy ash on it
Normal people don’t take steroids to help them recover faster
Exactly! I'm not taking advice from former steroid users seriously. I squeeze workouts into my busy schedule and drink protein shakes after. If I'd been using steroids for the past decade my body would look significantly better.
he is talking about bodybuilder do you think all bodybuilder is natural?
You can take gear and still be "normal" 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
@@sterlingsilver5937 every pro and legend takes gear ???
He’s right and wrong. This is very subjective some respond best to once a week grouping, others push pull, others upper lower, others full body. Find what works best for you kings and keep moving forward.🔥💜
I think he's specifically talking about body building competition
Secondary muscles get indirectly worked....so if I do biceps monday then back Wednesday ....biceps are worked TWICE a week .....
Listen to his advise
All true. For enhanced lifters. Natural folks need to rest more. Separate more.
Bruh , Dorian trained only one body part once a week . He had denser muscles than Haney XD
Dorian is also a bit of a genetic freak. Taking an approach on both might be best. Would take time to figure out the proper program but there's solid evidence for both
Do you take the same steroid than him ?
Dorian also completely destroyed that specific part for hours. Unless you have his pain endurance and dedication, this method is pretty useful
So u choose one awesome dude who was roided to extremes and trained harder than anyone to discredit what he says? What he’s saying is right for average guys not roided
Actually every 5 or 6 days.
Full body anterior Full Body Posterior splits is the way
Lee Haney is absolutely correct. I see guys saying today is my back day, or arm day. Ive always followed the old school bodybuilding of two body parts per workout. Then these one body part guys ask "how can i get like you". They want the same results with less work
Training a body part once every 9 days can be very effective for gaining muscle.
High intensity, low volume, to muscular failure, 3 to 7 reps, heavy compound movements.
Training one body part multiple times a week does not work for everyone just like training once every 9 days might not work for everyone.
Plus Lee forgot to mention that his recovery time was sped up due to the peds he and his competitor's were taking.
Yup. You have one whole body not one whole muscle group. Use it all to its fullest potential