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DIY Precision Lapping Plates from Scrap

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 มี.ค. 2023
  • In this video, I show how I used the Whitworth three-plate method to turn scrap cast iron from a damaged milling machine column into high-quality lapping plates. The Whitworth method is a proven technique for producing flat, parallel surfaces, making it an ideal method for creating lapping plates.
    Special thanks go to Tom Lipton @oxtoolco for inspiring this project and for sharing his knowledge and expertise in the field of machining.
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ความคิดเห็น • 24

  • @K9Megahertz
    @K9Megahertz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice work! Made my own set based off the videos by Tom Lipton as well. Fun project!

  • @ianboard544
    @ianboard544 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    very much like grinding a telescope mirror

  • @HM-Projects
    @HM-Projects ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Noice, you make it look so easy :)

    • @PaulsGarageProjects
      @PaulsGarageProjects  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks! The tricky part was staying focussed for 6-7 hours while rubbing bits of metal together!

  • @paradiselost9946
    @paradiselost9946 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If you had to do more...
    Look at an orbital sander, a drill press... and combine the two.
    Ie, gyrations whilst rotating, hang a weight on the arm and swap plates every half hour or so...

    • @PaulsGarageProjects
      @PaulsGarageProjects  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think that's a really interesting idea! I'm curious if anyone has tried it before with the three plate method. Not sure I'd want to make any more plates manually, but I have to admit that it was somewhat therapeutic, at least for the first hour or so!

    • @paradiselost9946
      @paradiselost9946 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its the way they do them industrially. The machines slightlier fancier but the same basic principle.

  • @JohnGrimsmo
    @JohnGrimsmo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great work!! I also made a 3d printed spherometer for my lapping plates but I feel like it sags to much to fully trust it. More testing requited.

    • @PaulsGarageProjects
      @PaulsGarageProjects  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! Yeah, if it was something I used often, I'd definitely make one from metal.

  • @be007
    @be007 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    your livecenter/tailstock isnt very rigid, you can see it wobbel at minute 1.25 ?
    cheers ben.

    • @PaulsGarageProjects
      @PaulsGarageProjects  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Think it was all just lined up a bit wonky - really it's a decent lathe for its size 👍

  • @ollysworkshop
    @ollysworkshop ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice! I haven't got the patience to do that😂

    • @PaulsGarageProjects
      @PaulsGarageProjects  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Olly! It's kind of therapeutic, at least for the first hour or so...

  • @jimwi9592
    @jimwi9592 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice work . What are you going to use them for or how do you use them.

    • @PaulsGarageProjects
      @PaulsGarageProjects  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thanks! That's a good question, I've got some carbide tooling that I might be able to sharpen with them. Believe you just put some abrasive slurry on, then start lapping. My main reason for making them was to have a go at the three plate method, to make a flat surface without a reference.

    • @sorinal1234
      @sorinal1234 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PaulsGarageProjects No channels then for sharpening carbide. Hammer the diamond into the disk and wash well the still loose particles - you want none of those ridding over the cutting edge and buggering it up. The beast ( most aggressive ) lubricant is gasoline, followed by kerosense followed by diesel.

  • @sloppydoggy9257
    @sloppydoggy9257 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For the lapping process, I wonder if you couldn't have centered a strong magnet on one & then hooked it up to your drill or something haha. I guess, that might not actually produce an "even" surface since it would be the same surfaces always in contact via rotation.

    • @PaulsGarageProjects
      @PaulsGarageProjects  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have a feeling that that would produce convex surfaces. The reason being that the outer part of the disc would be travelling further than the centre, removing more material.
      In fact, you do spin the plates together as part of the three plate method, to bring down the outer edge a bit. The centre is always in contact during the standard rubbing, which removes more from it.

    • @sorinal1234
      @sorinal1234 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That would be not that far from how a conditioning ring is used to "revive" a worn out plate. Good call ! Basically, sort of an orbital sander. With the stroke, orbit and rpm well chosen this will produce flatness better than a tenth of a micron in 10" . Which is actually not that great...

  • @chronokoks
    @chronokoks 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is interesting. Why is it shiny? Normally, you should get a dull grey color no matter the grit size of the diamond. The cast iron must be of weird quality (mythical chinesium) that it enables the diamond particles to "scratch" instead of "tumble".

    • @PaulsGarageProjects
      @PaulsGarageProjects  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Good question! I was surprised to see it come up to a mirror finish myself. At a guess I'd say it's just your common, cheap gray cast iron.

    • @chronokoks
      @chronokoks 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@PaulsGarageProjects i'm quite certain that all the plates have diamond strongly imbedded in them.. the cast iron was so freakishly soft, that it got embedded. To try if the diamond is embedded get a piece of hardened steel (parallel, old gauge block etc) and rub it on the plate.. if you see alterations you know what you've got :)

    • @PaulsGarageProjects
      @PaulsGarageProjects  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      There are definitely diamond particles embedded in the plates - I've been keeping them separate for the different grades of lapping compounds.
      I'm not convinced that it's the diamond that's making the cast iron shiny though, have a look at the finish people get in cast iron frying pans - they look like mirrors!

    • @chronokoks
      @chronokoks 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@PaulsGarageProjects I have never made that claim. I have made the claim, that embedded diamonds create microscraches that look make the surface shiny (it's the scratches). I lapped cast iron (with cast iron) many times with various diamond sizes and it always came out matte. Please look at Stahli's (german lapping machine producer) and it's there explained with great footage and animations. th-cam.com/video/fnoVV-RWIWY/w-d-xo.html