My two teams making deals with each other. Tarasenko is our top 6 problem solved for now. I forgot he was still available, huge signing! Let’s go Cats and Wings!
i would say steve improved the financials of the team while keeping the compete level the same. the team is in a good position financially to make another move via trade if the right situation becomes available. this is also the year we start to see some of the youth break the lineup. things are still moving in the right direction. stay the course!
I’m with you Scotty, I want to see another move. I think it has to be a defenseman to pair with Seider. We have the assets to trade - Husso, Berggren, a defenseman.. we’ll see what happens.
2nd pair RHD is more what I’m thinking, ideally ekblad. Edvinsson-Seider Gustafsson-Ekblad Chariot-Maatta That would give us. legit Top 4 defense along with a legit top 6 forward group and 2 solid games that can play 40 games each (Lyon and Talbot)
They should be at least as good now but I think they have a higher ceiling possible - it really will depend heavily on whether Raymond can pick up where he left off and whether Kane or Tarasenko don't lose a step - that happens and they should be improved significantly.
So can someone help me out with something here, 🤔 so in today's new NHL power teams like the Edmonton Oilers and the Florida Panthers especially from a few seasons ago able to have as many good players as you do on their roster.. even at the Vegas Golden Knights as well.. I'm saying with like the way contract is and with the cap.. what is it because of the driveway and because they're young guys are already taking that early leap therefore they don't have to spend as much.. because about three of their players are on the rookie contracts or something like that and a lot of the other song free agents are on good deals or something?? .. like how are things like that able to afford so many good players and keep them for like a few years at a time?.. you know what i mean??... Just trying to see if that's what Stevie's trying to set us up for in a couple of seasons,.. where were able to just go on a fruit splash and get like 2-3 STUDS in one offseason and be that ELITE team..🤔 Thank you to whoever can help 🙏
Well Florida is losing players as we speak because of the cap. Montour just left. Great defenceman. Edmonton has half their cap tied up in forwards. They got lucky their goaltending held up with a rookie. Vegas plays the system with injury reserve. Keeping good players out all season and then playing them in the playoffs. No salary cap in the playoffs. Their payroll was 100 million come playoff time. A team can only hold on to great players for so long. Tampa Bay just lost Stamkos because of age and money. Yzerman's plan of long term success really isn't sustainable in today's NHL but he's gonna try
Around 20 mil to pay Seider, Raymond, Valeno and Bergrenn. Maybe another move or two to trade a defensman and Goaltender, and maybe get a descent right d. Like the signing, it was a concern and we needed to a top 6 forward, and we also offload Fabri and his salary. Still have room for prospects on the roster. We will see how the roster looks like come in October.
They're gonna miss Sprong. Tarasenko makes up for the lost production of Ghost. Gustafson makes up for the lost defense of Walman. Bonus Kane makes up the lost offense of Walman and some of Sprong. But there's still that little bit of production gone. But I think there's wo much room for improvement for Husso and the backup that there's still a good possibility they improve.
Scotty, Brian- How do you guys feel about the possibility of Aaron Ekblad to Detroit? Maybe he can fill in the role they had for Trouba? He's a recent cup champion, and younger than Trouba.
Ras-Copp-Fischer was an excellent line. They had the highest xGF% of any Wings forward line with over 100 minutes TOI together. I will be shocked if they don't try to run that line back. I think Scotty is mixing them up with the Compher-Copp-Ras line, which was an absolute failure.
I can see Vlad coming to the Wings getting anywhere from 70 to 80 points.. and I will take it..still another D man to eat up some time..Seider can only do so much
It's a bit of an issue that Raymond, Kane, and Tarasenko are all right wings. Either you make Raymond play the left wing which might not be ideal, or else Kane or Tarasenko play 3rd line which isn't ideal. The top 6 may be solidified but won't necessarily all be in their natural spots.
Last year’s FWD core was a combination of: Kane-Larkin-Debrincat Perron-Compher-Raymond Fabbri-Copp-Rasmussen Sprong-Veleno-Fisher-Kostin-Czarnik Now it’s: Kane-Larkin-Debrincat Raymond-Compher-Tarasenko Berggren-Copp-Danielson(?) Rasmussen-Veleno-Motte-Fisher-Mazur(?)
@@ericw3229 I mean copp isn’t that bad. He wins face offs good on the pk and is a solid 3c. The biggest problem most people have with him is the contract. If he was around 3 mil it wouldn’t be a bad signing.
Tarasenko is 4 years younger than Perron and produced about the same points so really it's an equal tradeoff, but you lose Fabbri in the process. In the end he's a top 6 forward but for 2 years this is just a bridge to guys like Bergren and possibly Nate Danielson.
also he was on a much worse team previously for the majority of regular szn so hopefully he can score a little more if he’s playing with Kane or raymond or debrincat
The Wings have a bad taste in their mouth from last year. They will improve! As Yzerman has said, we want a team that wins, not just make it to the playoffs. I'm with Yzerman, I'd rather miss the playoffs, then make it, then get bounced out every 1st round. It would be the same rhetoric from the fans if the Wings were the Leafs!
wouldn’t combine 2 goalies in 1 trade. i’m assuming he’s looking to move 1 and if he can’t he’ll buy out Hussos last year. losing Husso would give us 4+ million in space and we’d still have solid organizational depth NHL- Talbot and Lyon AHL- Cossa and Campbell ECHL- Gylander and Gage Alexander
I like the way the team is changing with the additions but I'm worried we might have a step back because the players need to learn how to play with their new teammates and also in a new system so it might take a little bit to play as a team and learn about the other players on your team
In regards to the top 6, I just don't want the Wings to have Kane and Cat on the same line anymore. It worked in the past becaase both of their foot speed were plus, but now they just slow enough that they get bullied by larger defence hounds. Theyre just too small to be effective even with Larkin carrying the load in the middle.
On paper this team is comparable to last year's. However, there are intangibles to think about, such as the improvement of guys like Raymond and Seider, the hunger this team will have after last year's finish, and (hopefully) a shared load for the healthy goalies
maybe he didn't want to play for the teams who offered him a contract? Maybe they were working on a deal with Detroit that didn't get ironed out as quickly as you seem to need it to be?
Tyler Motte is from Michigan Another local guy in the room. Talbot’s wife is from Michigan So there are tons of Michigan connection in that locker room Jack Campbell is another one Couple guys from Minnesota (Holl, Lyon) and from Illinois (Compher) This team is like Detroit Great Lakers
@@dennis_burgessthe year you're thinking is 2014-15 an that Michigan wolverines roster has Larkin, Compher, Copp, and Motte on it. I'm sure Yzerman knows this tho
@@seguinryan play the young guys. Steve is making moves to get into the playoffs instead of giving the young players a chance. He's throwing around money and getting into a bad cap situation!
@davidlaffin5747 I think you'll see a couple of the young guys. Ed will be up there full time, and I'm sure a forward or two will compete. Our window opens in the 26-27 season if you look at where our contracts are set to expire. Until then Stevie is just putting a few pieces together, trying to build a winning culture.
Are you kidding me? You complain about “not moving the needle” but then say play the young guys and you’re complaining about cap?? This has been the plan the whole time, sign veteran guys to have a competitive team while the young guys slowly get plugged in. His plan hasn’t changed, whether you agree with the plan or not is another story. But make up your damn mind. It’s been obvious for years how Steve is building this team.
This is just a replace for Perron don't move the needle this don't make the team better brings us back to the same as last yr. Basically the same team as last yr. Steve will waste a pick to trade for a upgrade a goal. But he will ship 2nd 4th walman and Fabs for nothing. Stop giving Steve a pass this team is no better
Perron was SO SLOW last year. Good shot but he’s just too slow now. Vlad is an upgrade. Still need a true second line center and an offensive defenseman
100% agree with Scott. Love the way Fabbri played and wish him the best. The reality is that he isn't durable.
You are right but he is a great team player chemistry wise
My two teams making deals with each other. Tarasenko is our top 6 problem solved for now. I forgot he was still available, huge signing! Let’s go Cats and Wings!
My 2 teams as well!
Great sign ‼️
i would say steve improved the financials of the team while keeping the compete level the same. the team is in a good position financially to make another move via trade if the right situation becomes available. this is also the year we start to see some of the youth break the lineup. things are still moving in the right direction. stay the course!
Hell yeah!!!Trust the Yzerplan!
I’m with you Scotty, I want to see another move. I think it has to be a defenseman to pair with Seider. We have the assets to trade - Husso, Berggren, a defenseman.. we’ll see what happens.
Husso is not an asset. You’d have to add to get rid of his contract.
You can retain on Hussos contact.
2nd pair RHD is more what I’m thinking, ideally ekblad.
Edvinsson-Seider
Gustafsson-Ekblad
Chariot-Maatta
That would give us. legit Top 4 defense along with a legit top 6 forward group and 2 solid games that can play 40 games each (Lyon and Talbot)
Yes - need an impact D man please!!!
@@davidshea7865what could we trade for ekblad
They should be at least as good now but I think they have a higher ceiling possible - it really will depend heavily on whether Raymond can pick up where he left off and whether Kane or Tarasenko don't lose a step - that happens and they should be improved significantly.
So can someone help me out with something here, 🤔 so in today's new NHL power teams like the Edmonton Oilers and the Florida Panthers especially from a few seasons ago able to have as many good players as you do on their roster.. even at the Vegas Golden Knights as well.. I'm saying with like the way contract is and with the cap.. what is it because of the driveway and because they're young guys are already taking that early leap therefore they don't have to spend as much.. because about three of their players are on the rookie contracts or something like that and a lot of the other song free agents are on good deals or something?? .. like how are things like that able to afford so many good players and keep them for like a few years at a time?.. you know what i mean??...
Just trying to see if that's what Stevie's trying to set us up for in a couple of seasons,.. where were able to just go on a fruit splash and get like 2-3 STUDS in one offseason and be that ELITE team..🤔
Thank you to whoever can help 🙏
Well Florida is losing players as we speak because of the cap. Montour just left. Great defenceman. Edmonton has half their cap tied up in forwards. They got lucky their goaltending held up with a rookie. Vegas plays the system with injury reserve. Keeping good players out all season and then playing them in the playoffs. No salary cap in the playoffs. Their payroll was 100 million come playoff time. A team can only hold on to great players for so long. Tampa Bay just lost Stamkos because of age and money. Yzerman's plan of long term success really isn't sustainable in today's NHL but he's gonna try
Around 20 mil to pay Seider, Raymond, Valeno and Bergrenn. Maybe another move or two to trade a defensman and Goaltender, and maybe get a descent right d. Like the signing, it was a concern and we needed to a top 6 forward, and we also offload Fabri and his salary. Still have room for prospects on the roster. We will see how the roster looks like come in October.
They're gonna miss Sprong. Tarasenko makes up for the lost production of Ghost. Gustafson makes up for the lost defense of Walman. Bonus Kane makes up the lost offense of Walman and some of Sprong. But there's still that little bit of production gone.
But I think there's wo much room for improvement for Husso and the backup that there's still a good possibility they improve.
Scotty, Brian- How do you guys feel about the possibility of Aaron Ekblad to Detroit? Maybe he can fill in the role they had for Trouba? He's a recent cup champion, and younger than Trouba.
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So anybody see a coincidence with Pavel showing up?? IJS 😁
Ras-Copp-Fischer was an excellent line. They had the highest xGF% of any Wings forward line with over 100 minutes TOI together. I will be shocked if they don't try to run that line back. I think Scotty is mixing them up with the Compher-Copp-Ras line, which was an absolute failure.
Then it will probably be Berggren - Veleno - Motte on the fourth
@TimmyGotTriggered88 maybe. I wouldn't mind trying Mazur there. Berggy may end up 13th F.
I can see Vlad coming to the Wings getting anywhere from 70 to 80 points.. and I will take it..still another D man to eat up some time..Seider can only do so much
Hey guys this is a great signing and episode.
Do you think Yzerman is still cooking a trade for bettering the d?
It's a bit of an issue that Raymond, Kane, and Tarasenko are all right wings. Either you make Raymond play the left wing which might not be ideal, or else Kane or Tarasenko play 3rd line which isn't ideal. The top 6 may be solidified but won't necessarily all be in their natural spots.
Last year’s FWD core was a combination of:
Kane-Larkin-Debrincat
Perron-Compher-Raymond
Fabbri-Copp-Rasmussen
Sprong-Veleno-Fisher-Kostin-Czarnik
Now it’s:
Kane-Larkin-Debrincat
Raymond-Compher-Tarasenko
Berggren-Copp-Danielson(?)
Rasmussen-Veleno-Motte-Fisher-Mazur(?)
This season is a lot better in my opinion
Looks like a good signing. Should be better than previous ones like Copp Holl or Kostin
@@ericw3229 I mean copp isn’t that bad. He wins face offs good on the pk and is a solid 3c. The biggest problem most people have with him is the contract. If he was around 3 mil it wouldn’t be a bad signing.
@@ericw3229 holl was horrendous tho. And kostin wasn’t a bad idea. He just didn’t fit the Detroit lineup.
Why is Brian now a former podcast producer for 97.1 the ticket? Didn’t he used to say producer for the daily J on WWJ?
Was part of layoffs from the company after it went bankrupt
We have 6 goalies , when will this be addressed?
2nd coming of Mcdavid
Tarasenko is 4 years younger than Perron and produced about the same points so really it's an equal tradeoff, but you lose Fabbri in the process. In the end he's a top 6 forward but for 2 years this is just a bridge to guys like Bergren and possibly Nate Danielson.
also he was on a much worse team previously for the majority of regular szn so hopefully he can score a little more if he’s playing with Kane or raymond or debrincat
The Wings have a bad taste in their mouth from last year. They will improve!
As Yzerman has said, we want a team that wins, not just make it to the playoffs.
I'm with Yzerman, I'd rather miss the playoffs, then make it, then get bounced out every 1st round.
It would be the same rhetoric from the fans if the Wings were the Leafs!
His best days are gone
What are the odds that Yzerman gets so many goalies that he trades 2 goalies + pick for a good goalie
probably not. There's no point on getting two mid gollies
wouldn’t combine 2 goalies in 1 trade. i’m assuming he’s looking to move 1 and if he can’t he’ll buy out Hussos last year. losing Husso would give us 4+ million in space and we’d still have solid organizational depth
NHL- Talbot and Lyon
AHL- Cossa and Campbell
ECHL- Gylander and Gage Alexander
I like the way the team is changing with the additions but I'm worried we might have a step back because the players need to learn how to play with their new teammates and also in a new system so it might take a little bit to play as a team and learn about the other players on your team
I know we need defense, but could you imagine if we also somehow get Necas. This would be one of the best top 6's in the league if we get him!
top 6 gets slightly overcrowded on the Wing. either Kane, Senko, or Brinky would drop to the third line
Are we getting depth? When key guys go down, do we have guys who can step in? Remember the 7 lost in a row?
Great signings by Yzerman and good luck Fabbri!
In regards to the top 6, I just don't want the Wings to have Kane and Cat on the same line anymore. It worked in the past becaase both of their foot speed were plus, but now they just slow enough that they get bullied by larger defence hounds. Theyre just too small to be effective even with Larkin carrying the load in the middle.
On paper this team is comparable to last year's. However, there are intangibles to think about, such as the improvement of guys like Raymond and Seider, the hunger this team will have after last year's finish, and (hopefully) a shared load for the healthy goalies
On paper it’s better than last years. Slightly better goaltending, more forward depth with higher ceilings.
If you own all the goalies. How can you lose?
Lol Red Wings fans are so fickle...
I'd anticipate holding onto 3 goalies again this year, but giving Lyon more ice time than Husso.
Will Lyon hold up?
What number is tarasenko gonna take his obv ones are unavailable so 🤔
92
Why did he not get signed Monday is my question. No one wanted to over pay him?
maybe he didn't want to play for the teams who offered him a contract? Maybe they were working on a deal with Detroit that didn't get ironed out as quickly as you seem to need it to be?
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Nice hat Brian!!
"The 1920 season"? Brian;😅
‘19-‘20
Tyler Motte is from Michigan
Another local guy in the room.
Talbot’s wife is from Michigan
So there are tons of Michigan connection in that locker room
Jack Campbell is another one
Couple guys from Minnesota (Holl, Lyon) and from Illinois (Compher)
This team is like Detroit Great Lakers
That's a good one!
Didn’t compher play for the wolverines?
Rlly don’t care if they are from the state. Literally couldn’t mean less for me. I care if they’re good.
@@dennis_burgessthe year you're thinking is 2014-15 an that Michigan wolverines roster has Larkin, Compher, Copp, and Motte on it. I'm sure Yzerman knows this tho
@@casewojo6186motte is one of the best defensive forwards in the league, just a zero on the offensive end. expect 4th line and penalty kill
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Might as well etch our names into the Stanley cup now. Whelp 🤦🏻♂️
mott is pk killer
I'm sorry, but a 25-goal guy doesn't move the needle!
Yeah, cause zero is the same as 25.
What would "move the needle" for you then? As it stands Tarasenko replaced Perron.
That's not an upgrade?
@@seguinryan play the young guys. Steve is making moves to get into the playoffs instead of giving the young players a chance. He's throwing around money and getting into a bad cap situation!
@davidlaffin5747 I think you'll see a couple of the young guys. Ed will be up there full time, and I'm sure a forward or two will compete.
Our window opens in the 26-27 season if you look at where our contracts are set to expire. Until then Stevie is just putting a few pieces together, trying to build a winning culture.
Are you kidding me? You complain about “not moving the needle” but then say play the young guys and you’re complaining about cap?? This has been the plan the whole time, sign veteran guys to have a competitive team while the young guys slowly get plugged in. His plan hasn’t changed, whether you agree with the plan or not is another story. But make up your damn mind. It’s been obvious for years how Steve is building this team.
Now we trade with Anaheim for Zegras right ??? 😂
Please, no. Lol
Nah Yzerman won't take a chance on that egomaniac
This is just a replace for Perron don't move the needle this don't make the team better brings us back to the same as last yr. Basically the same team as last yr. Steve will waste a pick to trade for a upgrade a goal. But he will ship 2nd 4th walman and Fabs for nothing. Stop giving Steve a pass this team is no better
Perron was SO SLOW last year. Good shot but he’s just too slow now. Vlad is an upgrade. Still need a true second line center and an offensive defenseman
passing on stand there and shoot stamkos 4yr 8 million vs play making vladimir taresenko @2yr 4.75 🤷♂️💪🤔👍