Best two-stroke 300 review! KTM, Sherco, Beta, GasGas, Husky & Rieju︱Cross Training Enduro

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  • @crosstrainingenduro
    @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    What changes have occurred for the 2024 models? Not much has changed so this video is still relevant. The main thing of note is the Austrian bikes now have TBI instead of TPI. We consistently found TPI models lacked grunt and riders were spending a lot of money to try and get similar performance to a carb model. However, the TBI seems to have resolved this. Hopefully it will prove to be more reliable than TPI too, which definitely had kinks that needed to be ironed out.
    IMPORTANT! I stated the standard 30 day warranty applies to KTM, GasGas and Husqvarna two strokes which is set by KTM head office. Please note that in Australia the distributor has chosen to run with a six month warranty on enduro TPI models (3 months on SX models) to match other brands! I did ring KTM, Husqvarna and GasGas dealers in Australia who all told me it was a 30 day warranty. But the Australian distributor assures me they have increased this to six months for Australian owners.
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    • @opticmoose
      @opticmoose 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In Australia I would think the ACCC would clean them up if they denied a warranty after only 6 months, let alone 30 days, on a product that cost well north of 10 gran. It explicitly says that the statutory warranty can extend past the manufactures warranty and the 'time limit' depends on the price and quality of the product. . . . unless KTM are going to claim their product is not quality :)

    • @johnrenehan7406
      @johnrenehan7406 ปีที่แล้ว

      6 mths is much better than 1 true - but as this presenter says - it seems lots of tpi models are causeing issues within the 12 months and just beyond that none of the carb models had - and the 16 or 17 k price tag ???ouch

    • @user-se7vt5ow4e
      @user-se7vt5ow4e ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In Spain we receive a 3 year warranty on the Rieju.

  • @nigel8248
    @nigel8248 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Just bought Sherco 300SE Factory. Stunning bike and easy to live with. Pefect for me at 64 years old and 50 years of riding motorbikes. Enjoy !

  • @srg1194
    @srg1194 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I've been a ktm/husky rider for the last 15 years. I think it's time for a new beginning. My bet is on the Beta RR 300 Racing.

    • @mr1982davies
      @mr1982davies 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      got one its unreal the new 2022 rr racing blows my mind with the new updates to the engine and bike

    • @donniemcfarland3160
      @donniemcfarland3160 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just got my 2022 beta 300rr race edition so far I love it! We will see long term but as of now I love the bike

    • @dsandusky123
      @dsandusky123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have 21 beta 300 race edition.. I love it .. been a great bike and looks great doing it ... like all hard riding a few bucks spent on protection parts and it's great .. I love the carb over the tpi.. feels too artificial on the tpi..

    • @carlatamanczyk3891
      @carlatamanczyk3891 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've owned all the 2 stroke brands since 1972.
      You won't be disappointed in the Beta once it's set up right and all the fasteners have been inspected for tightness.

    • @twowheelpilot
      @twowheelpilot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      20 years on KTM. Now a Yamaha. By far the most ready to race bike I've had out the box. KTM is the least these days. No regrets

  • @humbertobizzotto
    @humbertobizzotto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I’ve been on a beta 2022 for four months by now. Awesome bike, great handle, its light and have an amazing low end power. Had absolute zero issues with it… i think the best choices on the market right now are Beta, Sherco and Tm

    • @legendhvh1239
      @legendhvh1239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      TM is a very good bike but the parts are very expensive because they are hand made other than that there's nothing to complain .

    • @moreveinsmoregains
      @moreveinsmoregains 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      l have the 2022 model too, l love this bike, the engine is a monster on hard enduro tracks it looks like a trial bike..here in italy it's the cheapest bike too

    • @humbertobizzotto
      @humbertobizzotto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@moreveinsmoregains i have the same feeling, looks like a trial bike, awesome for hard enduro but it still handles amazingly in high speed tracks

    • @thisisme7587
      @thisisme7587 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you don't mind not having a bike for 43 months waiting on parts

    • @humbertobizzotto
      @humbertobizzotto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thisisme7587 Where i live nobody had this issue with Beta, by the opposite… while ktm’s are with a waiting list for over 3 months, beta’s are in stock for every single model

  • @browie316
    @browie316 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I'm riding an 2018 Sherco 300 SE 6 days. At 6"2 and 110 kg all I've done is change the springs. It lugs all day, 75 hours with no issues. Gonna keep it for a few more years.

    • @amek4736
      @amek4736 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How many hours have you done? Does the engine break down? do you recommend this bike?

  • @jenswickholm1077
    @jenswickholm1077 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Fell in love with TM some year ago and never looked back. For a scared old bastard like me the 144EN is perfect. Power enough, easy to flick around and best of all easy to pick up when I end up in the dirt…

    • @mikeh5757
      @mikeh5757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've been wanting to ride one of those, will the front come up easy to get over obstacles?

    • @jenswickholm1077
      @jenswickholm1077 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Mike H Im not an advanced driver, but as soon as you learn the bike torque and power is no issue. I say go try one😉

  • @armourbl
    @armourbl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I've got a 22 KTM 300 XCW with about 35 hours on it now and it has been flawless. Hope it stays that way. Most of my ride group uses these and really no major issues among the group.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good to hear.Did the 2022 come standard with the extreme map? If not, that can be a good move to avoid possible premature wear.

    • @armourbl
      @armourbl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@crosstrainingenduro I haven't been able to confirm that it has the extreme map. I was told the 22's all got it.

    • @ErzbergAdventures
      @ErzbergAdventures 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Im edging closer to 50hrs on my 2022 erzberg. Absolutely no issues so far that I have experienced

    • @pow_dirt_hound
      @pow_dirt_hound 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Went KTM group in ‘17 and don’t see changing anytime soon. ‘23 TX 300 incoming!

  • @benvis7213
    @benvis7213 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I just purchased a 2022 TM300fi. Blew me away with what you get. It may be $ but it’s well worth it when you get the opportunity to work on and ride it. The materials and build quality are next level, and Ron from emu racing is a top bloke as well

    • @donniemcfarland3160
      @donniemcfarland3160 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah The TM bikes look amazing!

    • @jordanraccanello4920
      @jordanraccanello4920 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I spoke to Ron the other day and still have to wait for mine to get here. Went with the carb so there are less things to go wrong. Where are you based?

    • @benvis7213
      @benvis7213 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jordanraccanello4920 payed for mine 9ish months ago and got it to Perth a month ago. Well worth the wait

  • @austinw638
    @austinw638 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    My Beta 300rr is honestly amazing right now. Just picked it up a couple months ago and I have zero problems with it...amazing power and it's very smooth.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They are great bikes, Austin. And the majority of owners won't hit those electrical issues. And a good dealer usually goes over the bike and fixes everything the factory messes up in terms of missing parts, loose bolts, messy wiring etc.

    • @donniemcfarland3160
      @donniemcfarland3160 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love my 2022 beta 300 rr race edition so far

  • @sarahdell4042
    @sarahdell4042 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The Rieju are actually really good value. I just picked up a 300 Rieju after dealing with countless issues on my KTM TPI machine.
    I love the bike. Would never go back to TPI. So far no issues with my starter. My friend has almost 100 hours on his Rieju, and not a single issue with the starter or anything else.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Great to hear, Sarah! I know in quite a few countries they are significantly cheaper than the other brands but unfortunately the Aussie distributor set the price just below the others. Glad the starters have been okay. They generally should be as 'known issues' only occur in a certain number of cases. E.g. The majority of TPI owners are fine, but quite a few are tearing their hair out. When Beta had all its main bearing failures, it was happening to less than 10% of two strokes.

    • @sarahdell4042
      @sarahdell4042 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@crosstrainingenduro Here in the states, it’s a good deal. Cheaper than the others, and has quality components. I really love how the bike rides as well. Which I feel is an unpopular opinion, as everyone seems to claim how nothing feels better than the newer batch of KTMs.
      Hopefully I never have to deal with starter issues, but the bike comes with a kicker stock which is a nice bonus.
      I couldn’t be happier!

    • @amek4736
      @amek4736 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How year made you have in tpi ?

    • @bboness713
      @bboness713 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've got a 2018 gasgas ec300 and it's a great bike, zero problems

  • @grey-adventures
    @grey-adventures 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    After 20 years of Yamaha, I bought a Sherco 300SEF 4t. Love the bottom end and don't think another 4T can touch it in the nasty. I did have some charging issues fixed under warranty. Can't say if it was the regulator or the stator, both were replaced on my 2021. Cannot surpass the KYB suspension, even better than the Yamaha YZFX valving on the singletrack. Good to have a seat that isn't a plank while on a fire road. The bike handles better than I do. The headlight is shit but a LED bulb makes a huge difference. Graphics fly off with a pressure washer. Maintenance could be easier (at least on the 4T). The trials bias of the Sherco brand just suits me. Tons of bottom that keeps pulling. Great for an old fart like me. While my experience is 4T, I hear the same good attributes on the 2T models.

    • @LostIn207
      @LostIn207 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good to hear. These 300SEF's are very intriguing bikes for us four stroke guys trying to ride with 2 stroke friends

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Good to hear, David. Yes the stators and regulators have been iffy in the past. A friend is buying the four stroke 300 model so I'll get to try it regularly... I hope!

    • @adamniswonger8015
      @adamniswonger8015 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@crosstrainingenduro the 300 SEF factory is really great. I love mine. My ‘21 got updated p/n cams that improve the starting and eliminates any flameouts whatsoever. Easy warranty coverage and zero hassle. Suspension can’t be touched. I’ve owned a ‘19 300RR and a ‘20 XCW300 TPI and now own a ‘22 Xtrainer. The new Xtrainer is flawless. Dealer greased connections before I got it. It’s awesome and the new clutch feels great.

    • @mitchellpaterson7062
      @mitchellpaterson7062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@crosstrainingenduro let’s see spaghetti or bagels 😊

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mon dieu! Mamma mia!

  • @lancemiller972
    @lancemiller972 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    50hrs on my 21 TM300EN carb. No issues. Absolutely love it and worth the bit extra you pay. It rips!!! And grunts! I do everything from MX to enduros on it and it handles it all with ease. Parts supply you say? Non issue in North America, TM Cross Shop out of California has everything you need OEM and aftermarket. They ship to my place on the east coast of Canada in 3 days! 25 years of riding and racing dirtbikes, I’m a TM guy now for life.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good to hear parts aren't a problem over there. I've yet to see what it's like here. I'd be going the carb for sure, I like my lowdown grunt.

  • @crosstrainingenduro
    @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    UPDATE ON TM ENDURO MODELS! Unfortunately there is only a 30 day warranty in Australia. 😢 The 12 months stated in the vid is the TM USA warranty. And this is on the condition that the TM is unmodified... the TM manual states "In cases of direct and consequent damage caused by tampering or modifications to the motorcycle, no legal warranty claim can be asserted".
    Unfortunately, we have started having troubles with the fuel injection. The Australian distributor and dealer aren't willing to look into the problem as the bike is now outside the 30 day warranty. We will keep you updated.

  • @husaislander4838
    @husaislander4838 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I just bought a 22 SE 300 Sherco. As i do NOT want TPI. Motor is awesome down low it vibrates a bit more than my 17 TE 300. But after 2 rides not noticeable. So far it is handling the West Coast Canadian single track well. Suspension is a little stiff but i need to re spring for my weight

    • @twowheelpilot
      @twowheelpilot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same thoughts. Moved brands as I do NOT want TPI.

  • @DanielTsuji
    @DanielTsuji 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just bought a 2022 Beta 300 RR, and you nailed the reason in the first 20 seconds - "For the average dirt rider, all the available bikes are great. The bikes are much better than we will ever be." For me, I was just waiting for the right deal on any KTM/GasGas/Husqvarna, Sherco or Beta in 250 2t or 300 2t.

    • @donniemcfarland3160
      @donniemcfarland3160 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love my 2022 beta 300 rr race I think you will love your new bike

  • @Captaincobalt
    @Captaincobalt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Picked up a 2022 beta 250 race edition about a month ago. Amazing bike. With a few little changes here and there (bar risers, new foot pegs)to make it “my bike” and it was perfect. Coming off a yz250f 2018 the beta feels way more flickable, light, and much easier to ride on technical and slower riding.

  • @dhtmbowen
    @dhtmbowen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Recently bought a TM. Cannot believe how good it is and absolutely beautiful to boot.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They do look amazing. It's a tough choice between the TM and the Sherco at the moment.

  • @selfhelp4testing
    @selfhelp4testing ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I bought the 22 Rieju MR300 pro because of the hardcoat KYB suspension. It's a tractor, but if you twist the throttle something happens right effing now. I appreciate the electric start, but would buy a bike without a kickstart. I'm only 220 miles in, but it has been flawless and the suspension has needed nothing to cope with north Jersey terrain which is endless rocks.
    (FYI for the background)....) I'm 61, not slow, not fast, did earn my A card the hard way, five firsts in a row in class and five top 10 overall B. I don't suck, but I'm not fast A material. All the bikes are factually amazing, the amount of abuse they tolerate is unbelievable. Unless you're fast A or AA, you won't go wrong with any of these mounts.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great to hear the Rieju is working out for you, Steve

  • @cpcloudconsultinglimited2928
    @cpcloudconsultinglimited2928 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great vid! My 21 300 EXC has 300 HARD hours on it. Second piston about to get changed. Not one single issue - starts first time every time. The most reliable bike I've owned. I disagree on the KTM reliability issues statement. Like any mechanical product, the number of issues is directly proportionate to the number of units out there. I don't have solid data (e.g. comparison of number of bikes sold versus number of issue bikes) but, if you look at how many people ride KTMs (youtube videos, facebook posts, etc.) versus the KTM issues forums, then I'd say it's very similar across the manufacturers that you are comparing in this video. Horses for courses - everyone has their own opinion I guess. Keep up the good work lads!

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Great to hear you've had no issues! Yep, you need a really large sample group size to know if their genuine known issues or not. As mentioned, the majority of TPI owners won't get problems. But a very significant number do. This is based on KTM dealers facing shortages in top end parts due to the number of bikes seizing at low hours. It's also based on mechanic reports, one in particular said TPI bikes are his most common bike in the repair shop now. It was the same when roughly 5% of Beta two strokes were seizing main bearings a few years ago. 95% of riders were saying 'this must be bullshit!' because they and their mates hadn't hit any problems themselves.

  • @PandelisShailis
    @PandelisShailis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I live in Cyprus, Europe and I ride hard enduro. After some serious thought I bought the Rieju MR300 Racing.
    It is cheaper here than all other similar competitor bikes and after riding it for a few months now I am very impressed. Amazing power delivery when needed but at the same time smooth with tremendous torque and low end grunt, clutch is very light and easy to control making things easier during hard technical terrain. Bike feels very light although it is slightly heavier than other brands. KYB suspension (no words needed),. Racing model doesn't have a cooling fan which I thought it would be an issue but surprisingly it does not overheat easily. Generally I haven't got any issues with the bike yet.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Great to hear, Pandelis!

    • @SureStandar
      @SureStandar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am also after a new rieju to replace my old gasgas but there aren't any in Greece where I live, used or new. Did you get yours brand new in cyprus? Cheers Pandeli, enjoy you bike mate!

    • @PandelisShailis
      @PandelisShailis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SureStandar Thanks man! Yes we have an authorized dealer here. Not sure about Greece but look around if there are any, its definitely worth it.

  • @lennykusa9025
    @lennykusa9025 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Currently own 2002 TM racing en250.
    Parts aren't an issue, it a reliable, handles and built to ride. Great review!

  • @kellybrown788
    @kellybrown788 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The dealer gave me a deal on ‘21 Rieju MR 300 racing last year (March 2021). Paid list price of $8800. That’s around $2K less than the KTM/ Husky/Gas Gas. The ‘22 models have the same components. It is the best value for the money. Rieju doesn’t have a tpi bike but has some top quality components on it. The bike is essentially a 2018-2019 Gas Gas EC 300.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      With that sort of price difference I reckon I'd be jumping on a Rieju as well, Kelly. But they are barely any cheaper here.

    • @shaddybros3566
      @shaddybros3566 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@crosstrainingenduro My brother and I test rode the MR PRO 300 in August last year and loved it. Decided I didn't need that much power and I dont want to lug my bike around. Picked up a '21 Rieju MR200 in December, for $12, 540 (registered), I went for it cause it was $450 cheaper than a beta 200 and has kyb suspension. The biggest concern is there seems to be no online parts store from Rieju Aus

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good price!

    • @Superdisco199
      @Superdisco199 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@crosstrainingenduro someone said before they are running out the '21 Pro model for 13k with xtrig triples and DLC KYB, that's thousands less than a 6days KTM which doesn't even have upgraded suspension.

  • @Danger_mouse
    @Danger_mouse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I loved my 2 x 300 4 stroke Shercos, but decided to see what all the fuss was with 2 strokes and bought the 21 model.
    The engine has amazing torque and is all but impossible to stall.
    The suspension works for me straight out of the crate with no mods and the bike is so easy to ride in technical terrain.
    It's far more accomplished than I'll ever be, but it is not a handful to ride either.
    Love it 👌

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's probably the big issue... all these bikes are better than 98% of us will ever be. 😂

  • @TC-iz6xe
    @TC-iz6xe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I picked up a clean 05 yz250 for $2500, I put a rec reg kit on it and got it registered. Much better value and much more fun than any of these new euro 2 strokes. Saving myself $12k + was a no brainer

    • @roberthummel380
      @roberthummel380 ปีที่แล้ว

      I waited a couple years for the dust to build on the TM and practically stole it 2018 with 23hrs on it 4200

  • @scottclark1975
    @scottclark1975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    My 19 tpi husky has never missed a beat. 160 hours. 5000km. Always starts been a good friend

    • @jasongransden6493
      @jasongransden6493 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ive got a '17 TE300 with similar hours on it, never misses a beat and am very hesitate to trade up. Fricken love it too much...

  • @mrlemonadesandwich
    @mrlemonadesandwich 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have exclusively bought KTMs for the last 20 years, not because i am a brand snob, but because they were the best to ride, to own and to work on. Having said this, i would not but a new KTM, Husqvarna or Gas Gas. I dont want to deal with the extra hassles of TPI, or the taming of the power delivery. You buy a 2 stroke for the hit in the power. If you want a lounge chair then get a 4 stroke. I reckon i would jump on a new Sherco if i was in the market now.
    Great video. Thanks 👍👍

  • @ronniebowers5332
    @ronniebowers5332 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I currently ride a 2019 TM en300. I absolutely love the bike. Dealer support in my area is fantastic, and as far as price ( I know this drastically changes depending on region) they are priced a lot more economical than the competition. I would really like to try a 2022 with the updated 6 speed vs my 5 speed, but that leads to one of my biggest peeves, resale is low due to a small niche market.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Resale is a bit lower on my list but still a concern for me, Ronnie. When I bought my first Beta RR300 in 2015 they were still a boutique brand in Australia but when I sold it two years later it was snapped up. And Betas were so easy to sell as everyone got interested in them. Not sure if that will happen for TM, but apparently the factory is planning on ramping up production.

    • @ronniebowers5332
      @ronniebowers5332 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not saying that resale would actually be a prerequisite on any particular brand for me, just finding it currently irritating as it is hindering me from getting on a 2022, haha.

  • @Jimmy_Watt
    @Jimmy_Watt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just bought a 2022 GasGas EC250. Ten hours in, I have had zero issues of any kind. It is so drastically better than the YZ250 I had been on, I pinch myself that it is mine. I was also concerned about cold seizures, TPI issues, and engine problems in general. I haven't had it in proper hot racing conditions yet, but no issues here.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great to hear you've had no issues, Jimmy. And if you were concerned the updated 'extreme' map boosts the oil use to reduce any premature wear issues. But the 2022 may have had this standard?

    • @Jimmy_Watt
      @Jimmy_Watt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@crosstrainingenduro It seems to run rich on bottom. There's the tiniest bit of splooge in the silencer. It's been below freezing, and I've ridden it in snow. I just let it idle for five minutes, putt around easy for five more, and let her rip. It is easily the best dirt bike I've owned. I shied from Beta when I heard they had more of an old school motocross style "hit" than the TPI bikes. For slow, technical riding, the TPI is magic.
      Didn't buy a Sherco because I heard they're a bit harder to work on, and there's not much dealer support in central USA.

  • @rirrid5662
    @rirrid5662 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is the best Dirt Bike video I've seen in a while. I'm happy with my '07 200exc.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great bike! Scott in our group is riding a 2012 200EXC I think.

  • @timothynelson1052
    @timothynelson1052 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    beta 300rr. 8 reasons. ! 1 street legal. 2 oil injection. 3 carburetor. 4 Easiest starting. 5 lowest seat height. 6 best price by far. 7 six month warranty. 8 my buddys shop near me sells them and I got a great deal!!! Also they look the best and seem to be the Quietest! Maybe it was 10 reasons? Just a lot of good reasons

  • @ShadowsFirst
    @ShadowsFirst 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I ride Orange, my wife rides Green. My dad rides Red and my daughter rides Blue. Some would say I'm color blind in brand preference at this stage in my life.
    With that said, I have to agree with what you said up front. The bikes are often more capable than we are.
    Know what you got, what you need to watch out for and LEARN HOW TO RIDE IT.
    Past that and any restrictive details like you mentioned with registration or anything similar, it's a matter of preference. In my opinion brand loyalty is often not a healthy habit to get into.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Completely agree, I've done two vids now about brand loyalty and how it can be a bit of a trap.

  • @theoldskoolboyzzzz6958
    @theoldskoolboyzzzz6958 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I went for the Ktm exc 300 2022. Plush ride and smooth throttle, I have had a husky before this but like the pds. Sherco was a close 2nd but the deprecation in the uk ruled them out

    • @keaan1526
      @keaan1526 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In my experience the ktm is far from plush

  • @JohnVanHolt
    @JohnVanHolt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'd love to ride a TM. Beautiful motorcycles. I like that they are a small brand. Hope they stay that way.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Up close you can see that attention to detail... incredibly stylish bikes.

  • @TheKitchenTechnician
    @TheKitchenTechnician ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yes! Yes! YES! Just bought a brand new 2023 Beta 300RR! It was a toss up between it and the Sherco. I liked the kickstart option on the Beta and the keihin carburetor and plush suspension for woods riding. Like yourself no fuel injected bikes or Japanese bikes on my radar also. Unfortunately, with close to 2 feet of snow here at the moment in frozen North Eastern Ontario, Canada, there won’t be a test ride for another month and a half.😢

  • @Berg-vm5ht
    @Berg-vm5ht 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Husaberg rider thinking going French frog sherco after seeing the boss's 300 factory looks minty test ride it this weekend....

  • @zacharycampbell1395
    @zacharycampbell1395 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have a 20 model 300rr beta and I'm already trying to sell it after a few months. It has no mechanical issues but the handling just sucks, it doesn't turn tight and the rear doesn't whip around under breaking or acceleration like the KTMs do so trying to come around tight trees on single track requires a lot more work. I love the motor though, the bottom end is extremely strong and linear giving way to easier hill climbs and less loss of traction, the rain mode does change the motor characteristic significantly.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Great engines. The handling is a bit weird though. Tried dropping the front a bit by sliding the forks through the triple clamps? Makes me wonder if a previous owner raised the front or fitted a fatty high profile front tyre for more in line stability?

    • @zacharycampbell1395
      @zacharycampbell1395 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@crosstrainingenduro today I removed the steering stops and cranked down on the shock to decrease the sag. We'll see how that works

  • @The_sushies
    @The_sushies 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I recently got a brand new 2022 Tm en 300 Ed carb model. Easily the best bike I’ve ridden. It came on the richer side but once I changed the jetting and jet needle woah! Very nice pulls to the moon and back

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've only ridden the FI model so keen to see what the carb is like.

  • @uv287
    @uv287 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've had a 2017 Sherco 300 se 2 stroke in the past. I loved that bike to bits and ever since I sold it and went to a 2020 husky fe 450 I've been looking back. Not to say the 450 isn't an absolutely brilliant bike that does everything that I need it to and more, but I miss the feeling of a modern 300 2 banger. So, in a couple days we will be picking up our new 2022 Sherco 300 se Factory. We looked at other brands but just couldn't beat the Sherco value for money. All the goodies on it for a couple grand less than a KTM, Husqvarna or GasGas.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Value for money certainly gets mentioned a lot with the Sherco in all these comments, Dan...

  • @BlueThunder69NZ
    @BlueThunder69NZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’m really enjoying my beta 350rr race edition from 2017. Been taking it through slow technical terrain for years and never let me down. Only boiled it over once, but now have a fan. Definitely lacks bottom end zap compared to my 300 works edition X-Trainer, but is just as capable in all situations with my mediocre skills steering it. Betas are just so comfortable (once you swap out the seat), but I’d think the Sherco could be a good alternative. Or dare I say it a GasGas EC300 with reflashed mapping and low comp head from TSP

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We are definitely spoiled for choice nowadays...

    • @Superdisco199
      @Superdisco199 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      what did you swap the seat to ? or you just mean you customised it ? they look painted on which is a bit of a turn off lol

  • @SreidMX
    @SreidMX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m lucky enough to live down the road from the TM importer, they are stand up and offer amazing support, I have a 20 en300 carb and I absolutely love the bike. It will goto the Moto X track one day and with no adjustments to suspension pull off technical single track or even hard enduro. This is quite likely the Swiss Army knife of off-road bikes. We have two tsi bikes as well and they have a more muted feel but are actually more powerful than the carb once on the pipe. The low end is adequate for most. Plus you can have them load the hot tune..

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'd be going for the 'cold tune' probably, Steve. 😂 The fuel injected one I test rode really started to sing from midrange and on.

    • @SreidMX
      @SreidMX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@crosstrainingenduro the bike we have is easily 5 hp or so it feels above the carb bike, pipe and everything else is identical. It’s crazy how fast it is.

  • @chrigul1
    @chrigul1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    For me it's still KTM. Spare parts should be mentioned, also fuel comsumption. Betas are very thirsty compared with others. Also maintenance is a big point. It seems to me that there is somehow a tendence of people tending away from the austrian bike because they just want to have something else, know what I mean? After all I would ride any of those bikes as long as I have dirt under my tires ;-)

    • @Danger_mouse
      @Danger_mouse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Here in Australia, Sherco parts are just as easy to get as Kato parts.
      There's a well stocked warehouse in Melbourne and another being commissioned in Qld, and then there is a Premium Dealer in each sales state that stocks a larger range of parts over the regular dealers.
      Fuel usage once correctly jetted is as good as any other bike and the 2 strokes have 10.4lt tanks.
      That with a torquey, reliable engine and good quality suspension, all at much less than the Austrian bikes, is a win for owners and why we have seen a doubling of sales numbers for the brand here. 👍

    • @downanddirty6899
      @downanddirty6899 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Likewise, I'm in Southern Sydney and no Sherco or Beta dealers. No issues with my TPI.

    • @Danger_mouse
      @Danger_mouse 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@downanddirty6899
      Sherco Sydney is a premium dealer that stocks extra parts locally.
      Definitely worth the trip across town. 👍

    • @joshscoot2231
      @joshscoot2231 ปีที่แล้ว

      What about husqavarna?

    • @chrigul1
      @chrigul1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joshscoot2231 also a good Bike. Little bit overpriced, a plus point compared with KTM because of the linkage suspension. What I don`t like on the Huskys ist the Plastik Subframe.

  • @eduardoguerra8302
    @eduardoguerra8302 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a 2021 Sherco 300SEF, i absolutely love the bike, probably the best enduro bike that i have own ( Honda, KTM, Husqvarna), since im looking to change to 2T im thinking trading it for a 2022 Beta 300RR i hope i dont regret it.

    • @amek4736
      @amek4736 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How many hours have you done? Does the engine break down? do you recommend this bike?

  • @trevorbgraham8904
    @trevorbgraham8904 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I bought a 2022 Ktm 300exc, my previous bike was a 2019 Husky 300 tpi which was great and very reliable. Ktm has great support and is a great bike. I would whatever brand has best support in my area

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For many it does come down to that, Trevor. Best support and your favourite colour!

    • @amek4736
      @amek4736 ปีที่แล้ว

      How many hours have you done tpi 2019 ?

  • @vigoswiegers2542
    @vigoswiegers2542 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a 2019 KTM 300tpi xcw, about 313hours, no engine or tpi problems at all and only changed the piston once at about 260 hours.
    I recently switched to a 2020 350excf and don't regret it at all, the 350 is by far the best bike I've ever owned.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Interesting! Both two stroke specialists I spoke with about the TPI said rebuilds should be done more often as the engines will wear faster. And while some have seized engines within a few hours, others do go for 200 hours or more before a rebuild....

    • @vigoswiegers2542
      @vigoswiegers2542 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@crosstrainingenduro That's true, but since I only did chill enduro on it and it only did 5 races in total (2 enduros and 3 rallies) I decided to go a couple of hours more on the piston before changing it.

    • @johnnyrebellion8672
      @johnnyrebellion8672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have a 2022 GasGas EC300. Got 90 hrs. Not going to do jack squat for at least 300 hrs. For $11,800 OTD it should have Japanese quality and longevity.

    • @WASemiHardEnduro
      @WASemiHardEnduro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@crosstrainingenduro The internet is an echo chamber for negativity. It's not a good barometer for the overall reliability. KTM sells SO MANY bikes. Even on all the KTM / TPI -specific forums, there really aren't very many reports of seizures. The "experts" are in the business of selling their tunes, so they will downplay reliability.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I had quite a few chats with the 'experts' and I never felt they were trying to push their services... we barely spoke about that and I told them I wouldn't be actively promoting their stuff. All of this is backed up by dealers and industry insiders. In Australia and other countries, there have been shortages on top end rebuild kits due to the number of seizures. Some guys have had to wait a few months before they got parts. I didn't mention this in the vid as it could be quite damaging to the brands, and they are fixing them as goodwill warranty when out of the 30 day warranty period. Again, it's only a small percentage seizing, but it's enough to cause a supply issue for parts in some countries.

  • @zeroeden7692
    @zeroeden7692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I for one would love to see you in the TM EN300 carb. It would just be nice to see a fresh perspective on the brand as a whole. On paper it seems to be the most ideal bike. Everything about it just looks amazing. Just would like to hear more from real world owners on what it's like to own one of these machines. Without all the usual parroting of old stereotypes. But, my second choice would be the Sherco 300 SE Factory. It's a near perfect Enduro bike. The lack of kick starter is annoying. And it doesn't help that they made adding one later an impossibility just rubs salt in the wound. Plus, there are a few minor odds and ends that could have been designed better. Good luck. Can't wait to see what you end up with. Keep up the good work.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've been googling around like made to get owner impressions and find known issues but there simply isn't a lot of info out there yet. It's really a toss up between the TM and Sherco at the moment.

    • @zeroeden7692
      @zeroeden7692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@crosstrainingenduro Indeed, something also to consider is that TM Racing just did a major update to their entire line for 2022. Not sure if you were aware or not. The 2022 models look amazing with all new plastics and a all new chassis. I'd recommend checking them out. No better time to be getting a TM bike. Tho, you may want to look into availability. As I hear some have needed to wait months for their bikes to arrive. And again I am sure we would all love to see you on a TM. It would just be such a unique situation to get a good reliable unbiased opinion on the brand. Thank you for responding. Love the channel.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I did get a test ride on a 2021 model, I'll put a vid out about that shortly

  • @josiahhughes3544
    @josiahhughes3544 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sherco 300SE with a smart carb. I absolutely love it !!!! Great handling and suspension
    Tons of torque such a awesome bike

    • @LionelCOSTE
      @LionelCOSTE 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello. Is really the smartcarb a good improvment on u're bike ? Why did you change the original carb ? Consumption, feeling, torque ? What about leakage if you lean the bike too much ?
      Thanks 😁

    • @legendhvh1239
      @legendhvh1239 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LionelCOSTE From what I heard Smartcarb increases power, you can make adjustments on the go, fuel economy is better and does not leak when going sideways.

    • @amek4736
      @amek4736 ปีที่แล้ว

      How many hours have you done? Does the engine break down? do you recommend this bike?

  • @1Beetlegeuse
    @1Beetlegeuse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I paid 16k for my TM.... KTM dealer price seems around 17k at the moment. Rieju was my other choice but heart said TM and glad I did. Quality components aside, another consideration is upgrades you may plan on your purchase and to take these into account. The TM already has rubber mounted bars, Mitas tyres, AND a kick starter. The Rieju Pro is on par parts wise with the TM and is also 16k. Both on the upper end price wise but still cheaper than the Austrians. Sure, not compared to a Ranger or Xtrainer but you're not really comparing the same thing. Also I believe the 22 TM's may have shifted from TPI to throttle body injection. Something I definitely would have been keen for if available but I bought a 21 carby.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You certainly get a lot with the TM in standard form, Rupert. Very very tempted...

    • @1Beetlegeuse
      @1Beetlegeuse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@crosstrainingenduro that throttle body injection vs transfer port injection is worth looking into. May not meet emissions for mass manufactures but TM can probably get away with it. Injecting at the throttle body means more time to mix in the crankcase? May solve the weaker bottom end issues. I think I heard ktm doing something similar but only for the purely off road competition stuff

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think I'd just prefer to go for the carb. It's cheaper. The bike is lighter. And just less to go wrong.

    • @1Beetlegeuse
      @1Beetlegeuse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@crosstrainingenduro Agree 100% ... Tm has buckets of power but like you I had a Beta before. Beta had more bottom but nowhere near the mid and top. I should have a head sometime in the next week with a hard enduro insert, different squish and profile. Developed by a guy in Europe who races these. 295 euros and includes gaskets. I get on fine on the TM but more is always betterer :P I'll let you know how it goes

  • @adskiygamer
    @adskiygamer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Got a spine injury and was looking for the most light bike for hard enduro. Xtrainer 2022 was the choice (thanks to your videos). Checked and greased all the electric plugs on it, made an airbox mod, changed the jetting for winter and having a blast with this beauty. My riding level has been growing huuuge since I bought it and I only have 14hours on it. It's really a cheat-bike, especially for a tall guy like me (1.91m) ☺

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The light weight is great! How do you find the stability at speed? I always got a bit nervous on mine once I was in fourth gear or higher... it was never confidence inspiring on open trails, even with modified suspension.

    • @adskiygamer
      @adskiygamer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@crosstrainingenduro I mostly ride tight and slow stuff, train trial techniques, so that's not a problem. Had no problem on speedy uphills with roots and ruts either. But yes, high speeds and cross country races are not about this bike. I am now on stock springs, will see what changes when ones for my weight will arrive.

  • @whyzed250
    @whyzed250 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wanted the fuel injection of the KTM triplets mainly because I just never trust where I land with jetting etc. The FI gives me some peace of mind that I'm always roughly in the ball park and just makes it all a bit easier. We (the wife and I) picked up 2 x GasGas EC250 2021 run out deals after the 2022 model came out rather than KTM/Huskie because for all intents and purposes its the same and was significantly cheaper than the other two. Rideaway $11k with rego due to the runout deal+the cheaper brand.

  • @dieselking8778
    @dieselking8778 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Honestly I'm keeping an eye out for a 2019-2020 gasgas ec 200 ranger

  • @jasonautenzio6369
    @jasonautenzio6369 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You are right with the Japanese, if Yamaha made the wr two stroke range again I would definitely buy one. Come on Yamaha get your shit together

    • @redtobertshateshandles
      @redtobertshateshandles 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Owned a monoshock IT250, great bike, terrible brakes and headlight but everything else was good. Simple, fast and tough. 6 speed box.

  • @enduro-parts-aus
    @enduro-parts-aus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    cant beat a carb for bush riding IMO , i think i would try a sherco for my next bike

  • @mikeh5757
    @mikeh5757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Really like the TM racing bikes, Id say they have the best parts and build quality. Their motors are on another level and sound/feel so good. They aren't as cushy as a KTM or Beta, but I think you will like owning one.
    My first big bike was a TM 125 in 2003 I still have it and it rips, came with full Ohlins suspension.
    Was lucky to live by Thom Coppersmith's shop (Ohlins specialist) he was the TM dealer at the time. Had a few KTM-250xcw since then and now been riding mostly TM's since 2017 and sold my last KTM a year ago and have no desire to ride anything else

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It would hit the wallet pretty hard but I was impressed with how light it felt, Mike. It's definitely a contender.

    • @mikeh5757
      @mikeh5757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@crosstrainingenduro Be really cool to see you riding one in the future videos.
      I called around for the best price since there is no dealer in my area. Last time got a end-of-the year model from a really small dealer, it was a few hundred more than what a KTM Xcw would have been locally.
      Parts are usually more expensive then Ktm for comparison, but the stuff is made by them- a small company not mass production.
      Not sure about where your at in AU, but resale is an issue here as they are not well known even to the dirt bike shops where I live

  • @manugatzi6158
    @manugatzi6158 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got mine, a GPX TSE300R. Full fun, half the price, and about 80% performance from the European bikes. Truly, a working class hero.

  • @chrisbarker1895
    @chrisbarker1895 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is the Fantic 300 out yet !

  • @GC-ph9mz
    @GC-ph9mz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hi! would you buy a exc 300 tpi 2018 or a xtrainer 300 2022?
    i'm planning on doing some enduro and some cross in national tracks
    i had a tm 300 2013 (and a 2008 gas gas250) and honestly the tm was too much of a racer for me..
    maybe to just have fun for us "sunday riders" an xtrainer could be the answer
    thanks to anyone who wnats to share his thoughts on this!

  • @davidtkiwixtrainer2045
    @davidtkiwixtrainer2045 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2021 Beta xtrainer - the only issue I have ever had was a bolt falling out of the mudflap and the radiator shroud plastics that appear to be made of chocolate and break too easily. Would I buy a 2022 model - probably not based on all the electrical issues being reported - will wait for 2023 model. I am sure every brand will or has had a 'bad' model and it is how the dealer/agent supports you that is important to brand loyalty. You correctly point out that the riders skill is far more important than the actual model you ride - practice, practice, practice. Keep up the great work.

  • @mr1982davies
    @mr1982davies 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    just purchased the brand new 2022 beta 300rr racing its got a completely revised engine its still early days yet but the bike is insane what a machine everything been working perfectly

  • @furyss1tv184
    @furyss1tv184 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just purchased my 2nd Beta 300 RR. Originally I went to look at husky but none in stock so I started looking at others and was coming off a wr450.I like the strong ease of simplicity of getting to all the parts to work on and having a dealer close.I was looking at sherco but I have no dealer anywhere close but I have 2 betas dealerships one within 25 miles the other ones in 60 mile range. So this had a determination factor in choosing a beta and wanted to stay away from orange.. beta is a good bike but they're all good bikes.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There seems to be this increasing trend of riders wanting to avoid going orange. I know why I'm part of that crowd, but it would be interesting to see the reasons of others.

    • @ALB2073
      @ALB2073 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@crosstrainingenduro I recently went orange TPI, my main reason was the availability of parts both dealer and aftermarket. I also know that resale on KTM 300's is very good. Yes its a bitter pill to swallow forking out 17k for a bike that you throw down a mountain, and I think this might be why people are shying away from the brand. A friend of mine has a Sherco 300 (2019) race edition and he has had tuning issues despite the dealer making adjustments. He has fouled more than one plug on a ride (I'm 70 hrs in on my TPI with Race Map and never fouled a plug). He asked me to help him do a top end so I searched for the Sherco Workshop Manual (not owners manual), it is a complete joke compared to the KTM workshop manual. Go see for yourself.

  • @bushybill7189
    @bushybill7189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    While I, like you have no interest in TPI, if I was to buy a 22 model 300 it would be either a Beta or Sherco. It's all hypothetical though as I'm still madly in love with my 2016 300rr.

    • @wayde4192
      @wayde4192 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep same, 16 300rr - love that little buggar. My 890R is a great thing but the 300 is still the fav 😍

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a keeper, Bill! I loved my old 2015 RR300 model a few years back. No real issues other than brittle plastics that would snap if I breathed on them too hard lol.

  • @jimmadonna1436
    @jimmadonna1436 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow! Love the technical riding! I would love to own a TM.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Very tempted, a really good looking bike. I'm not sure on parts availability here in Oz though...it would be good to see them become more established with a broader dealer network.

  • @Einfach_der_geilste
    @Einfach_der_geilste 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I personaly own the beta rr300 and love it. But it had 2 issuse, a broken battery but got that replaced under warrenty and it has been fine for a few months now. And a not working tach due to a sensor fair that i replaced for 20€ . My bet is on the beta rr300 and sherco

  • @CO_EVO_8
    @CO_EVO_8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Picking up my 2022 Beta 300RR tomorrow. Keeping my 05 KDX 220 as well. A little bit of old school and some new school.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great to hear, Blake! Have you heard about keeping an eye out for corrosion on that ECU connection with recent Beta models?

    • @CO_EVO_8
      @CO_EVO_8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@crosstrainingenduro yup, they checked it over

  • @sptnk87
    @sptnk87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I had a 2019 300rr Beta, wonderful bike and would buy Beta again. Did not like the sach forks that much. So if im going Beta again im going race version. Sherco seems kinda cool to. No TPI for me either, like the simplicity of carbs.

  • @donproper3632
    @donproper3632 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2016 KTM 250 xcw here best bike I ever had well jetted carburetor way better bike than I am Rider I don't think I'd trade it for a brand new one keep up the good work

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A friend bought one of the last carb 250EXCs in Australia, Don. Such a light bike! It's a shame they had to do the TPI thing, then release it before they had ironed out all the kinks.

  • @ktmkaos
    @ktmkaos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The starter is definitely a weak link on the reiju .If you use it as intended i.e a re-starter.Kick when cold and only use the starter when the bike is at operating temp and it works fine . KYB , KICKSTART AND CARB ....awesome

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We heard they would fit a proper e-start and overhaul the old design in its second year of manufacture but it doesn't seem to be the case. 🤔 I think they need to charge a lot less for the bike here in Australia, OR do the mods needed to bring it up to par with the competition.

    • @ktmkaos
      @ktmkaos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@crosstrainingenduro The starter isn't a deal breaker.The 2022 model starters are now oil bathed ,I believe .The main attraction is its simplicity.Being a Weekend Plonka ,I refused to have a failed fuel pump ,oil pump ,flat battery or some crappy sensor ruin my day .Manufacturers decision to remove the kick-starters is simply ludicrous and what to save a few hundred grams .Makes F...kall difference to me .When I purchased my Reiju it was about $800 less than a sherco and it had KYB and a kickstart.And yes ,Im a 64 year old Gasser tragic .Keep up the good work Bazz

    • @stevevanzeyl6791
      @stevevanzeyl6791 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@crosstrainingenduro the starter definitely has been overhauled. Bearings where bushes were and bushes where nothing was. The starter motor also seems to be better, I've never heard a bike starter spin so fast. The system needs a bit a lube every now and then to keep it running smoothly but very easy to do

  • @fimenduro
    @fimenduro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good stuff, a lesson for dirt bike magazine ! Wide world 2-stroke enduro shootouts - have been missing for 30 years.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They seem to occasionally do a two stroke shootout but I find the reviews useless if they aren't talking about long term reliability and known issues. I reckon for the average rider, the performance of all these bikes is very similar... and much better than our abilities will ever be lol.

    • @bdschm3475
      @bdschm3475 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@crosstrainingenduro So true! You are doing a truly unique service to off road riders everywhere by focusing on tangibles like reliability and long term cost of ownership😀

  • @mototrailz
    @mototrailz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What do you make of the fact that pros (Webb, Walker) that go for Sherco & Beta are not on the top step anymore?
    Also Carb unfortunately is a thing of the past at least in Europe so might just embrace the fact that KTM is pushing to have a reliable 2 stroke tpi when we are not allowed (very soon) to ride carb anymore? Keen to hear your thoughts.
    Cheers Barry

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I could only hazard a guess, Oli. I've spoken with an number of pro riders and on the quiet they will say it doesn't really matter which bike they are on. It comes down to who pays the best, offers the most support, and has the highest profile that will further your career. By that reasoning, KTM is part of a huge multinational corporation with huge amounts of money to put into promotion. They will offer the most, so probably will get the best riders in most cases? Personally I doubt it has anything to do with the bikes at all in most cases.
      Fuel injection? Sadly we have to go that way by the looks of things. Even KTM insiders have said they wouldn't have touched fuel injection if they weren't forced to do it. With luck they'll iron out the kinks and it will be reliable for everyone. The carb isn't dead yet. Only the Austrians have abandoned it completely. It may survive in Europe for a few more years.

    • @rayheppner8391
      @rayheppner8391 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Walker just came back from injury & won the AMA EX and Cody also back form injury did very well other than one bad race. Both beat the reigning champ on the other brand, this was in a season with the highest level of competition it has ever had. It appears that KTM is struggling to have reliable injection or strong enough swingarms to handle EX for that matter.

  • @bcaz84
    @bcaz84 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ok great video, I have learnt alot. Ive never really ventured away from KTM and Husky, not because of Brand but availability and how close they are to where I live. I do have a husky 300 and KTM 350. Both run very well.

  • @nicoloferrarese
    @nicoloferrarese 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I personally own a gas gas EC 250 from 2007 which I am happy with and I don't think I will change! but if I had to change bikes I would take TM or Rieju

    • @npnell
      @npnell 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just picked up a new
      MR pro 300 from Rieju(gas gas) and it’s awesome! I don’t think you would be let down as it’s just a refined version of the redone 2019 ec300 still actually made by gas gas with gas gas parts. The pro actually comes with tons of upgrades and is a great price for what you’re getting.

  • @dlpannebakker
    @dlpannebakker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Myself I am going back & forth between the Sherco & theTM. I have three Italian made bikes in the garage two of three are street Ducati & Guzzi Griso & an older Husqvarna TXC 250.
    Between the two I am looking at, which would you recommend?

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I dont' really do personal bike recommendations, Doug. But a while back I did a vid about why I ran with the Sherco instead of the TM.

    • @dlpannebakker
      @dlpannebakker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@crosstrainingenduro okay I’ll look that video up. Thank you. I’ve been leaning more towards the Sherco because of the distribution of bikes & parts.

  • @mixalis6168
    @mixalis6168 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cant go wrong in my opinion with any of these bikes, what colour floats your boat !

  • @PNWEnduro
    @PNWEnduro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where do you see the 2022 Sherco has a lighter frame? Nothing about it on the Sherco website, you'd think they would market a big upgrade like that. From what I can see it's essentially the same bike as the 2021 model. I love mine, if I were to buy something else right now it would be the TM. They look amazing and TM, along with Rieju are the only brands I have not tried yet.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Damn it, I can't find the original source. It was one of those 'latest updates' news releases on a dirt bike magazine site. But either I either misread it or they got their wires crossed, I can't see any evidence of it on Sherco websites.

  • @motoroche
    @motoroche 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve got a 2014 beta 300RR and really like it but it’s getting up in the hours and getting a bit tired in the suspension. I’m at the point where I could sell it and buy a new bike or keep it and spend money on fixing it up. Are these newer bikes really much better than a 2014 model? I’m picking the main difference would be that most of the new bikes have a counter balance shaft compared too my old one.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I had a 2015 model... such a great bike. They did eventually lose a bit of weight but if you aren't riding in very gnarly terrain you won't notice the difference. I would avoid 2018 to 2020 models where the main bearings were failing. If you buy a used one then you might get one of the lemons that have had three failures in a row. Owners usually sell those after the second or third rebuild. But those are pretty rare thankfully.

    • @motoroche
      @motoroche 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@crosstrainingenduro awesome thanks for the reply. I’ve always liked bike reviews and new bike release’s but you never really see what or how much difference there is between a new bike and say a 5 year or 10 year old bike of the same manufacturer. They all seem to change we bits of the bikes each year but in reality how much difference does it actually make? Could be a great video?? Keep up the great work. Love the channel 👍

  • @robsonenduro3316
    @robsonenduro3316 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Agreed 100% with your list, currently third year on sherco 300se and loving it.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No problems with the jetting? That seems to be the main thing on recent models and easily fixed. I think some dealers just fix it automatically in their presales prep.

    • @robsonenduro3316
      @robsonenduro3316 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@crosstrainingenduro I guess these days any bike from factory you have to uncork and tune a bit. Bikes was rich as hell stock, sludge from the pipe all the time. Few try and error jets swaps and works perfect now. Engine and suspension is rock solid, everything else could be better.

  • @dirtbikejunky1495
    @dirtbikejunky1495 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m a husky/ktm rider for years now and it’s time to move on for me aswell.
    I’ve just purchased tm 250 2t (carby) and can’t wait to throw a leg, I’ll let you know how that goes👍

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'll be keen to hear! Not sure if I'm swinging for a TM yet so keen to see what owners think.

  • @tonn333
    @tonn333 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Are planning to make an updated video on the topic? Or no point?

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Takes a lot of effort and I probably won't. TH-cam is shifting its emphasis to really short vids so I'm over putting a lot of work in. All I'd mention is the TBI on new KTMs has regained all that lost grunt with the older TPI models which is good to see.

    • @tonn333
      @tonn333 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@crosstrainingenduro no worries, thank you

  • @Gg_gorilla_bikes
    @Gg_gorilla_bikes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a 2019 gasgas ec300. Reiju have largely fixed the starter issues. If you can feel the weight difference you are a much faster rider than me ! Carb , kick starter, one of the best out of the box suspension set ups. I would not right the reiju off it is great for technical riding and single track. Good luck with your choice!

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not faster, Alex. We do a lot of slow snotty tracks so we often need to lift the bikes. The extra few kg with a Rieju shouldn't bother most riders but we definitely want to go as light as we can.

  • @kaosadventures
    @kaosadventures 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If all goes to plan I have my name on a Tm300en carby with the big 12L tank also getting bash plates but I’m opting for this one as I think it looks the best but also carby kick start and Estart are my must haves on a bike I don’t want to be stuck in a gully with a dead battery or stuffed efi at least with a carby I can do work track side and all else fails I have a kick start 🤘

  • @cameronauld7722
    @cameronauld7722 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got and still have a 2021 husky 300, it has been pushed to around 203 hours at this time, and it really hasn't had that much issues for how long I've had it, they are decent bikes. They just need more work before I can fully trust them. In fact they are so reliable they I had sent to 130 hours only for to get top end rebuild and a new pump, so far everything is how it should be. But at the end of the year I'm planning on switching to the 4 stroke enduro models as the little issues on the bike have been pissing me off

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good to hear you haven't hit major issues with the TPI, Cameron. Most owners don't, but a significant minority do. 😢

    • @andybj4091
      @andybj4091 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What are the little issues?

    • @cameronauld7722
      @cameronauld7722 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andybj4091 really the only issue I can think of is the fuel pump it slowly likes to fail over time, had some electric problems but that was a high hours. It's great bike but you have to take care of it. But it's very reliable it lasted up to 130 hours just with the average maintenance.

  • @glennalderton1313
    @glennalderton1313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2014 TE300 to 2022 Sherco 300SE Factory. Why? Carb, cost and parts access. Issues? None but some idiosyncrasies that are problematic... fuel tap under the tank... 13:48 gearing std with no 12T front sprocket option and 52T rear's difficult to get (I like shorter gearing overall - 12/50); odd/mismatched nut/bolt sizing - just means having to carry a wider range of tools. KYB suspension is good. Handling is supreme! This thing turns!!! Do I miss my old TE? Yes, but this Sherco is as close as I can get in a new bike.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lots of rave reviews about the Sherco from owners has definitely got me looking at them seriously, Glenn. They've certainly had their share of quirky issues but the majority seem to be dealth with now.

    • @glennalderton1313
      @glennalderton1313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@crosstrainingenduro definitely no issues when it comes to performance, reliability and quality.

  • @trevornugent9680
    @trevornugent9680 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Get yourself a Spanish senorita!( Rieju ) My 2005 ec300 is incredibly reliable! The Spanish are great engineers and passionate about dirtbikes.
    Also, thanks for another excellent video!

  • @Beyond3dGraitec
    @Beyond3dGraitec 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What are your thoughts on the 2022 'Sherco 300 SE Racing' with the open chamber KYB forks? Can't find any reviews. Big savings over the factory model $$$ and similar performamce other than suspension. Maybe the softer setup is better suited to tigher and slower hard enduro conditions?

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haven't ridden it. We rode a 2021 Racing and it seemed fine. But typically we wouldn't know good suspension if it his us in the face. As long as it bounces a bit we are happy.

  • @bones2610
    @bones2610 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If I get back into the sport. I believe I am going to go with the Sherco carb model

    • @powerwagon3731
      @powerwagon3731 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do it for the love of the sport👍

  • @Dowent
    @Dowent 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh, so you'll be getting Sherco or TM, very exciting. I'm hoping for a TM, since I know less about them, but Sherco would be interesting as well.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My brother is getting a new bike as well... we are leaning heavily toward the Sherco simply because the parts availability ain't real good for the TM in Australia.

    • @Dowent
      @Dowent 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@crosstrainingenduro Yep, I hear you, but I feel for the TM, because they are not as prevalent, there are not that many parts, so they don't become that prevalent... Thus I'm selfishly hoping you will take one for the team (and for the content!! :).

  • @tiagoko
    @tiagoko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would go for the Italian stallion. That engine .. for you maybe with a carb.
    The 2022 model looks even more promising. Keep up the great work 👍

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Which Italian stallion though, Tiago? TM or Beta?

    • @tiagoko
      @tiagoko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@crosstrainingenduro TM Racing ;)

  • @pierr057
    @pierr057 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought a 2022 ktm 300 exc tpi 7 month ago, good bike but got a ccps failure so i've decide to toss it for a 2022 sherco 300 (i'm french so it was the best thing to do) and man, what a bike.
    Pros:
    Suspensions are amazing out of the box
    Carb engine is really strong down low and you can rip your arms off if you twist the throttle too much
    Real map switch with a noticeable difference between the two.
    Cons:
    The bike is some kind of small (i'm 1m93) so i've put bar raisers and now it's perfect.
    The jetting is way too rich from the factory but a JD jetting has solved this.
    Overall great bike and i don't miss Austrian bikes.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Vive la France toujours, Pierre. 😎 I absolutely loved the engine on a recent test ride...

    • @amek4736
      @amek4736 ปีที่แล้ว

      How many hours have you done? Does the engine break down? do you recommend this bike?

  • @coastxenduro6638
    @coastxenduro6638 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the 22 Sherco Barry. I love it!
    Just something about the ergos that I find sublime in the tough technical stuff.
    I have about 60 hours on it and no issues at all.
    They need to be jetted and re geared before you go to far. Stupidly rich from factory.
    Out of my TE 300(tpi) rr300 500excf the 22 sherco is my favourite bike ever.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep, a few guys have told me that it MUST be rejetted before the first ride. It's been complained about for so long I wonder why the factory persists with that setting? Maybe it works in cold climates?

    • @coastxenduro6638
      @coastxenduro6638 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@crosstrainingenduro very strange.
      Let me know if you go this route. I can put you onto the sherco jetting master. I’m very happy with mine now. Absolute sublime engine and ergos.
      Few little issues with plastics lining up and strangely routed wiring harness but all easy fixes.
      I’m not a one eyed fan boy, have three different brands in the garage but honestly the sherco wins hands down.

    • @amek4736
      @amek4736 ปีที่แล้ว

      How many hours have you done? Does the engine break down? do you recommend this bike?

  • @grudgetank3127
    @grudgetank3127 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    take a close look at the fantic 300.. yz with all the trimmings.. I'm looking forward to these . they're also building off the wr models too,, cheers

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nothing on their website, I assume it's an aftermarket job?

    • @grudgetank3127
      @grudgetank3127 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@crosstrainingenduro i think they own minereli .. hope these links help, cheers from the sunshine coast of bc 🍺

  • @DoctorBolotov
    @DoctorBolotov 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We ride GasHusqKTM in enduro Russia coz only their spare parts you can actually find is stores and buy the same day. Others you have to wait for a few weeks or months. Beta is doing better here in the last two years. Reihu and Sherco said that Russia isn't their main market so they doesn't ship here much, my friend waited 8 month for his Sherco spare parts. And no TM here at all.

  • @jetdr
    @jetdr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sherco Bikes are awesome but hard to find in my area in the US, I love the ec300 but I can’t see spending 10k on anything at the moment. I have basically turned my yz250 into a woods machine.

    • @jimmadonna1436
      @jimmadonna1436 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How is it working out for you? What mods are you using? I was thinking about buying an X model.

    • @jetdr
      @jetdr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jimmadonna1436 Will never be as easy to ride as one of these 300's, with the mods I have has made it very rideable and fun, first was a Steahly Flywheel 9oz, Gnarly Pipe, G2 Throttle Tamer, one tooth down on the front sprocket 14 to 13. and the 18" rear with a 220 Ride tire. I also put a Lectron Carb, wasn't needed for the woods. But it has completely changed the Bike, very controllable that and the Boyesen reeds. This was before the 250x was available...

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cool. We tried similar mods to a 250SX in our mx enduro conversion vid, but it was still too much of an mx bike at the end of it. Everyone says the YZ is a better platform for this sort of thing.

    • @jetdr
      @jetdr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@crosstrainingenduro Yes, before the flywheel mod and the sprocket. it was a stall fest, it hasn't stalled since the mods. just run good Gas and Klots.

  • @AlbertKlanort
    @AlbertKlanort ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hello, Beta RR 300 or Sherco se factory 300, which is more powerful, more aggressive, more brutal, more reliable, faster in the forest on difficult trails and difficult climbs thanks to the people who will answer me!🤝🏻

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Unless you are an incredibly experienced rider (probably with a lot of A grade racing in your past) you'd actually find you'll be slower on an aggressively powerful bike. You'll become much faster by actually working on your riding technique instead of trying to figure out which bike has three more hp.....

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      th-cam.com/video/oPRwh_dUJuc/w-d-xo.html

  • @ExploringCabinsandMines
    @ExploringCabinsandMines 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My son just got a YZ 250 X and I REALLY like it ! I thought it would be peaky but power delivery is smooth ! currently I'm on a 2010 KTM 300 XCW.

  • @legendhvh1239
    @legendhvh1239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think Sherco is the best suiting for you right now, From what I heard 2023 Shercos will have fuel injection so 2022 might be the last carb model

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I definitely want the carb! It's a real toss up between the TM and Sherco at the moment.

    • @warrenstemphly5756
      @warrenstemphly5756 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@crosstrainingenduro do the TM!! Prettiest bikes out there!

    • @EinSteinerEnduro
      @EinSteinerEnduro 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@crosstrainingenduro I've had great experiences with my Shercos👍. Great bikes

  • @moonzy11
    @moonzy11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Went from a 21' KTM 250xc (fun bike...hated the forks) To a 21' Sherco SEF300.. when its running its awesome. Ive had timing issues at 5 hrs, and now its back again at 10hrs. hopefully they get it rt now. KYB was good after revalve in the forks. Picked up a 22' KTM 300XC in the meantime...all round dream of a bike for first 10hrs... Forks for whatever reason were amazing and compliant out of the box. Tons of low end and the bike is nimble. As effortless as ive experienced thus far to ride. I think in the end, there is a palpable level if individuality w all these bikes. Id love to try a Sherco se300

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There's certainly no one bike that stands out for everyone, Chris. A very individual choice! And of course they all have their known issues... it's just bad luck if you are one of the 5 to 10% who hit those problems.

    • @moonzy11
      @moonzy11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@crosstrainingenduro No doubt...firm believer in this philosophy..Keep up the good content !

  • @user-se7vt5ow4e
    @user-se7vt5ow4e 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I live in Spain and although I loved the KTM 300 I would definitely go with the Rieju. They are much cheaper than the KTM 300 and the KYB suspension, kick start and FMF pipe makes it a no-brainer for me.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good to hear it's cheap! We thought it would be in Australia but it's not much cheaper at all. 🤔

    • @user-se7vt5ow4e
      @user-se7vt5ow4e 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@crosstrainingenduro shipping costs and import duties probably drive the costs up for you.

  • @user-kz5th5bn3m
    @user-kz5th5bn3m ปีที่แล้ว +1

    unfortuneitly, the rieju starter problems have been kind of their achellies heel. i have a 2017 in the shop rn, 20 hours on the whole engine and the stater blew out which caused the crank seals to build up pressue and blow out a bit. and since ktm bought them out, those parts are wicked expensive now. but i have to admit, it is extremely smooth and reliable power-wise and yes it is kind of heavy but it holds it very well imo.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Like the old KTM design, it's really easy to access for maintenance, which is just as well given how unreliable they can be. I was still potentially interested in a Rieju but they aren't much cheaper than the competition here. Too expensive for a heavy dirt bike which hasn't really been updated for years now.

  • @mikelowry007
    @mikelowry007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great luck with my 2020 tpi. Doing a reflash and new head now as stock tuning wasnt 100% but was 9/10 for tuning. If i bought another bike? It would be a 2022 xc-w 300 tpi. I would give the non linkage a try for log/ rock clearance etc.

  • @rmaq865
    @rmaq865 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve got a Sherco 300se racing coming. Ordered in July last year. Am told April delivery. We will see. Am super keen to get it. But the TM is a cool bike also, it would be my next option definitely.

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Damn that's a long wait. Was it caught up in all the freight delays reported on the news?

    • @rmaq865
      @rmaq865 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@crosstrainingenduro not sure, dealer rang and offered a 250se factory instead which was nice, but I want a 300. He mentioned the racing models were being built after the factory models or something because of the lower order numbers.. I’ve just accepted the waiting period, I can’t change it. Great dealer aswell..

    • @crosstrainingenduro
      @crosstrainingenduro  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good to hear, always worth supporting a good dealer. I actually bought my last bike from interstate because the dealer is so good...

    • @rmaq865
      @rmaq865 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@crosstrainingenduro if you go with the Sherco, dealer in Toowoomba is the one.. nicest bloke.

  • @dirtbikesicehockey4788
    @dirtbikesicehockey4788 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you recommend my next off-road GoldWing?