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Watched your video a year ago thinking about a Subaru, and now this morning I have a brand new 2024 Outback Limited. Gonna take it out on the road and follow your instructions. Thank you.... Not thinking I'd ever set the speed to 90
I just found this video. Thank you for uploading. OMG, I knew the area looked familiar. I’m a SoCal transplant. I moved to the Pacific Northwest about 28 years ago. You live in the area I used to live. Nice to see that area didn’t change much. Oh, I miss SoCal freeways. I mean that in a good and bad way. I miss the traffic like you are in because I sit in one lane traffic every day. It’s the type of traffic where there is no way around it. No getting off on a side street. It’s a you are doomed for 45 min slow crawl no escape. I also miss the beauty and design of SoCal freeways. Once you have driven in a state where freeways are not labeled correctly, constantly being worked on, or a highway infested with traffic lights, you will tear up and long for the days where you can drive on SoCal freeways going over 60 mph and NOT get pulled over by an unmarked state police car (WA state has them, drivers beware).
You didn’t mention the way to switch from adaptive cruise control to regular cruise control and back again by holding a following distance button, but thanks for the clear and concise explanation and tutorial of a great feature.
I agree. Excellent video tutorial. The cruise control can be used as an old-fashioned system without the adaptive part, if you want. Just hold the cruise on/off button until the distance bars turn off. Also, for anyone concerned, the brake lights go on automatically when using the adaptive feature. By the way, the icon for cruise control isn't a clock, it's a speedometer. I know, trivial but details are details. I love the adaptive system, including lane centering when I (rarely) need to look for something in the center console or the glove box.
I drive a 2021 crosstrek limited, which I absolutely love, and it took some time and experimenting with the controls to get a feel for the adaptive cruise control. Just some things that I've experienced: 1. The lane centering loves to hug the right side line whether you're in the cruising lane or passing lane. There have been times where its felt that I had to fight the system to bring my car more to the left side of center such as passing a truck. Its instinctive as a driver. But as a consequence when you let the lane centering take back over sometimes it over corrects and even crosses the line to the right lane. I'd say the system works best in the right lane. 2. He said adaptive works best in heavy traffic. Yes and no. Like he said, you can set the car length gap up to four. Even at one car length theres still a pretty large gap that people will dip in and out of which will make you car brake a little harder. Otherwise its fantastic like he demonstrated. 3. If you have the speed set at, let say 75, and you lane slows down to 40 and you decide to switch lanes to get around the slowdown, if there are no cars your cruise will automatically speed back up quickly, so be cautious of others in front of you making the same move as your eyesight will only catch it when that car is fully in front of you. That being said I love my crosstrek and the eyesight w/adaptive control is truly amazing.
On the 2022 outback we have the centering is pretty much perfect. You can tell how well the car is centered by looking in your side mirrors on both sides, and seeing how much space is there between the line and the side of your car. Personally I prefer to keep more to the right side of the lane, esp on 2 lane roads, so you have a little more room with oncoming traffic if they start coming over the centerline. I dont agree with the video on setting the cruise distance to 1 bar. The setting controls the TIME between you and the car infront of you, not car lengths. At the full 4 setting its 2.5 seconds, and its 2.5 seconds at 30mph, or 55, or 70, or 90.. That is what it should be. The minimum following distance at any speed should be 2 seconds. That is how long it will take for a human to notice the car in front is slowing down (or slamming on the brakes), respond by stepping on the brake, and swerving if necessary to avoid a collision. Setting the car to 3 will put you around 2 seconds, and that is the min. Less than that, if the car infront of you stops dead, YOU wont be able to respond. The cruise control might be able to respond and stop the car faster than you.... IF ITS WORKING 100%. At that point you are putting your life in the hands of the adaptive cruise control, which can fail (sun in the cameras...) because you will not be able to take over fast enough. Another reason not to set the cruise to 1 or 2: when you drive you are looking at the traffic down the road, you can normally see past the car in front of you, and if you see a stream of red brake lights, or cars slowing down, you start to slow down before you get there. The cruise control is NOT looking at all the cars ahead all the way down the road, it is only locked on the car infront of you. If he is not paying attention and brakes hard, the cruise control will have to brake even harder to not hit him, and its likely the car behind you will not be able to stop and will rear end YOU! The good news is if you have your cruise set to 70mph, and the speed limit is 65, and you have that nice space in front of you, when a car merges into that space, even close, the cruise will not apply the brakes to immediately create a 2.5 second following distance. As long as the car that merged is going faster than you, the cruise will maintain its speed and let the faster car create the 2.5 second distance. I have to say, this only happens if you are driving in the passing lane. If you are on a long trip, stay in the right hand lane, set the cruise control to 5mph over the speed limit, and you will have a safe, easy drive, and very few people will merge into the 2.5 second space in front of you, because you are going the same speed as the car infront of you, and as soon as they merge in, they will have to merge back out to the passing lane. If you get behind a slow poke pass them when you can, then get back in the right lane. When you use the adaptive cruise and the lane centering, its like having a passenger who is paying attention just as much as you are, who can reach over and tug on the wheel if you are drifting out of your lane, and has their own brake pedal if you are about to hit someone. As of today no one has been killed in a Subaru with Eyesite lane keeping engaged, and that says a lot (esp compared to tesla's dismal record of "auto pilot" fatal accidents). One more thing: the gain (tightness) of the adaptive cruise control is adjustable in the cars setup menus (when the car is in park, Setting, driver assist.... its in there somewhere). You can change how hard the car will speed up and slow down to maintain its steady speed, like when you hit resume, or going up a hill. There are 4 settings, and the default is 3. I find that is a little too aggressive when going up hills, esp blind hills. When you are cresting a blind hill or curve you normally let off the gas a bit till you can see over it. If you have the level to 3 or 4, it feels like the car is flooring the gas to keep the speed up, and its un-nerving. I prefer the "comfort" setting 2. If you have older people in the car you might want to set it to one, so the car does not accelerate like you are driving "like a maniac" when the cruise control is active.
something else: when you are driving on roads where the speed changes, if you have the cruise set to 60mph, and you are following a car that is going 55 and you come into a town with a 30mph speed limit - your car will continue to stay behind the car its following and match its speed. if he is speeding you will be speeding too and if that car turns a corner, as soon as its clear your car will speed up quickly to 60mph, because that's what you set it to 30 miles back... If the car in front turned right on a red after stopping, then your car is going to take off like a bat out of hell thru the red light if the car in front of you proceeds thru an intersection, you car is going to follow it, whether there is cross traffic coming or not! when you enter a town or reduced speed zone, click your cruise control speed down to match the speed zone, and use your brake pedal to stop your car on a long trip its easy to start thinking the car is doing the speed and the brakes for everything - its not.
Great video and thanks for showing an actual demonstration! Really useful to see it actually working on a freeway and in traffic like that. Appreciate it!
Thanks for this very informative video on the lane Centering and Adaptive cruise control for the Subaru. I've only had my new 23 Outback for 3 weeks so still learning all the features. A friend asked me about lane keeping so that got me confused until I found your video. I never used cruise control driving around SoCal so that will be something new to try. Thanks again for the great video.
This is a really good explanation of the system. I just bought an Outback Wilderness. You can access chassis and dash lights by pushing the engine start button twice and keeping your foot off the brake pedal. The first time you push the start button the lane center activates and the steering wheel snaps to "attention". I would make sure your steering wheel is fairly well centered before doing this.
I gót Mỹ 23 ascent , my first trip to Canada .. I used all that safety .. I can tell it’s amazing Subaru do .. eyesights work crazy good.. even follow the car in front the way it’s brakes low down it’s smoother then me 😂😂😂.. amazing Subaru.. I love my ascent
You explained that on the freeway you should set the following distance to the minimum. I’ve actually tested it and each bar is one(1) second distance to the car ahead regardless of speed. I never drive with less than two(2) second distances (thousands and one thousand and two) as recommended. Only during town driving will I set it to one(1) second distance so drivers don’t cut me off all the time. I set it to three(3) second distance when I tow a trailer as it takes longer to break
Great video, and best explanation I've seen yet on how this system works. I used to think the brake light indicators on the multifunction display were just an Easter egg, but I realize it's useful to know what the drivers behind you are seeing if your car is braking automatically. Totally in agreement with pushing all the buttons I paid for. Gonna get the most out of mine when it comes in.
2024 forester premium owner here. When I'm on the freeway, my lane cantering makes the car sway between the lines, like it can't find a center. I have the lane departure warning/lane keep assist off. It seems to work better on the back roads, but I have to shut it off on the freeway because I feel like i have to fight it constantly. Does it need to be calibrated or something? I've only got 900 miles on the car.
Same here... I'm unhappy that the dealer lacked personnel for hands-on discussions. This chap spent about 20 minutes doing this, and gave me an hour's worth of education. THANKS FOR THAT!!
I Love the adaptive cruise with lane centering! We just bought a 2022 Forester Wilderness with the eyesight embedded in the windshield. I just tried it going into town and I wanted to see if it would stop at the light behind the car and it worked great
Admittedly I only have a couple of weeks on our new 2023 Forester, but I haven't developed a liking to the lane centering feature. I feel like it hunts the center going first towards one side of the lane, then overcorrecting slightly until it needs to (over)correct towards the other edge of the lane back and forth in a small motion. It is as if it is rattling along going back and forth within the lane. I can do a much smoother job of centering manually. I might not notice it as much if I didn't have to keep my hands on the steering wheel, but even if the system didn't require it, who wants to trust it that much? We'll be driving four hours to the beach next week so I'll give it a much longer and better chance, with some nice, bright lane markings and smooth pavement.
@@CarDietrich I don't know, but I do know that it nags me if it doesn't think my hands are not just on the wheel, but wrapped around it. I suspect that it moves a bit back and forth in the lane to make sure it is actually seeing the stripes and not something else. I also suppose I might be such a control freak when driving, that I don't like it steering differently than I would. I'll get a nice long test next week with a around 200 miles of expresswy driving.
I agree with the hunting within the lane if you let it steer completely. It seems to be more noticeable at 55mph than at 70 or faster. Its ok if you are in the car alone, but if you have passengers it feels like you are weaving, makes their heads bob, and its uncomfortable the solution is to always keep steering the car yourself with it on, after all this is suppose to be an assist, not full self driving, and keep the car slightly more towards one side of the lane or the other - then it will be gently pulling against you and the pull will be constant (not weaving). Ive also noticed if you take your eyes off the road for a few seconds and the car drifts over in the lane (because you are steering it over) when it gets to a certain point it will steer the car back more abruptly than you would, and your passengers will feel like you jerked the wheel. Thats what its suppose to do, keep the car in the lane, but if you keep doing it your passengers will feel ill-at ease
@@kenwittlief255 I've gotten several hundred miles on it now, including NC to Montreal and back and several beach trips, and still haven't gotten to like it, I can drive it myself with less effort than it tskes just to let it know that I still have my hands on the wheel. I'd say it is best for people who continue to believe they can multitask and still be a good driver. I love the car, but that doesn't mean I love everything about it and this is one of the things I consider to be subpar. The navigation system, with its multilevel menues is another.
@@jerrymiller276 I agree with you, it does demand your attention, and when it thinks you are too close to the edge of the lane it tries to push you back, whether you like it or not that includes if you a moving over to avoid an object in the road, or a pot hole, or a car coming the other way is hugging the center line. I dont mind it driving alone, but it tends to startle a passenger - Im a very smooth driver on the controls. Also if you are on a secondary road and go thru an intersection, the steering turns off (no center line) and dings at you. That gets annoying, when I see it coming I turn the steering off just to avoid the dinging. Ive said this in other responses, one thing that makes Eyesight worth the minor annoyances: so far no one has died in a Subaru while the adaptive cruise and lane centering was active. Subarus safety record is already excellent without it, but compared to tesla cars, I think they are over 60 deaths now with their version active, it has a nasty habit of slamming on the brakes at highway speeds for no reason, and it also crashes into stopped police and ambulance vehicles on the side of the highway (repeatedly).. And that 60 deaths is probably low, because when their version gets into trouble, it turns itself OFF completely about 2 seconds before impact, and flashes the driver to "TAKE OVER!" so tesla can say "it wasnt active when the accident happened". Eyesight also has the collision avoidance and pedestrian avoidance functions which I think are always on, unless you disable them in the setup menu (you cannot drive thru a carwash with them on, it will lock up the brakes). Personally I think of it as having an alert copilot, and I tend to use it on any long ride or trip.
I have a 2017 Outback limited with Eyesight and love it. I also find that it seems it accelerates when you turn on your turning signals to lane change.
22OB wilderness Lane centering wanders all over the lane and makes abrupt corrections. It all but induces motion sickness. I don’t use it. Cruise control refuses to begin to track a vehicle where there is a higher closing rate - you will rear end it if you do not intervene. It also way overreacts to tracked vehicle turning right. You will essentially stop even though they have cleared the lane. Still, I really like the adaptive cruise as long as you understand the bugs.
its not auto pilot - you are suppose to be steering, and it keeps you from leaving the lane if the car wanders its because YOU are wandering (not steering). and yes: if you are going 75mph and vehicles are stopped dead in the road ahead, the adaptive cruise control will crash right into them. It locks onto and FOLLOWS other vehicles, it does not stop you from driving into brick walls or stopped cars.
Best video I have ever seen. I have a 2020 Forester. I can't figure out how to turn off the feature that beeps when you go over the white line. I don't even know I turned it on. Do you have a video for that? Thanks
That feature is called Lane Departure Warning. When sitting in the driver's seat, look up and find the button with the car going through the lane line, its going to be in the middle near where the power moonroof control or sunglasses holder is. Push and hold that button for three or so seconds until you hear a beep. You'll see a yellow light with that logo on the instrument cluster and you will have disabled the system.
Thanks for this excellent video! Can you explain what the difference is between the lane centering assistance described here, and the lane departure assist found in the driving assistance tab of the infotainment system? Are they identical? It seems strange that both exist.
The Lane Centering can assist with steering to keep you centered in the lane when the cameras can read the lane lines. The Lane Keep Assist just beeps at you when you drift over a lane line
Can it be disabled to go back to old school cruise control without eyesight assistance? I haven't found a way to do that by pressing and holding buttons alone or in combination
Is it possible to use the adaptive cruise control without the lane centring feature? I tried the way that you were doing it and I didn’t like the way the car was fighting me for positioning.
@@CarDietrich thanks I think I have that figured out. To use a traditional cruise control use the adaptive cc button then hold the car length button and it beeps. I hope it works as part of my driving is 2 lane highways and the adaptive scares me a bit. I will practise on 4 lane highways with the adaptive
11:21 I live in the Pacific Northwest where fog is common. I guess I already know the answer, but what is your take on it?? I have noticed, also, that our DOT fills cracks in the asphalt with tar, which, visually, looks like a squiggly line and lane centering gets fooled by it. I have the exceptionally awesome 2019 Outback with the 3.6L engine.
I wouldn’t use the adaptive cruise in heavy fog, but then again the system will disable itself if it feels like it can’t see well enough, so if you’re gonna use it in fog just make sure paying proper attention. Unfortunately the road repair practices in rural areas can often confuse lane centering and lane keeping systems.
I have a new Outback and have a question about the adaptive cruise control. When the car slows down (brakes) due to getting too close to the car in front, do the brake lights come on notifying the car following me of the braking action?
Yes they do. Subaru actually displays this, if you look at the little graphic of your car in the center screen between the speedometer and tachometer, the Outback in the graphic will light up its brake lights to tell you when your car has illuminated its brake lights for motorists behind you.
Very helpful video. I have a 2023 Legacy but only just recently tried the cruise control. Will try it in traffic, that's a great idea. How do you set it in 1 mph increments on the open road? Mine only seems to set in 5mph increments. Thanks.
@@CarDietrich I just tried this on the way home and my 2023 Legacy goes in 5 mph increments with a short bump - you have to hold it a bit longer to get the 1 mph. If you hold it down steady it goes faster but by 1mph at a time. Is that opposite of yours or you don't have the 5mph increments?
It works more smoothly than the old Lane Keep Assist system. It will beep at you if you cross the line but it doesn't really tug the steering wheel sharply the way the other one did. You will feel it in the steering wheel but it's smoother and it makes smaller corrections because it's actively trying to keep you in the center of the lane.
I only use lane centering when I'm in heavy bumper to bumper traffic. The car stops, goes, keeps its set distance, and stays in its lane. Just set the cruise control dynamics to eco.
@RobinMiller-jl2pi "The Cruise Control Acceleration Characteristics of the Adaptive Cruise Control system can be set to one of four levels. Lv. 4 (Dynamic): Mode used when powerful acceleration is required. Lv. 3 (Standard): Mode used when performing frequent following, with a following function that focuses on the speed of the vehicle ahead. Lv. 2 (Comfort): Mode used when performing following with smooth movement. Lv. 1 (Eco): Mode that focuses on fuel economy over following the vehicle ahead, it is used when performing following with smooth movement. I haven't had a chance to test these different settings to see how they affect ACC since I just learned about them last nite, but I wonder if anyone else has? The descriptions of their differences isn't too enlightening to me. The default appears to be Lv. 3. I'm wondering, too, if changing these settings will affect the variance in maintaining the set speed. I've found that mine varies about 2 mph on each side of the set speed, which is worse than what I was used to in previous cars. I travel on moderately hilly roads at roughly sea level (Virginia). When the car accelerates up a hill, it will usually be 2 mph over the set speed by the time I crest the hill and when I go down a hill, it will usually drop to 2 mph by the time I get to the bottom. Previous cars stayed within about 1 mph in those circumstances."
I'm sitting here considering trading in my 2015 with 108k miles that has been a wonderful vehicle just so I can have this feature. Twice a year I drive 2,200 miles, 50 hours to Puerto Vallarta and back. With 8-9 hour days through Ore, Cal, more. I wonder just how much less demanding this drive would be? I've wanted to survey actual owners to find whether this is just a PIA... or a good thing. Once inside Mexico any lane assist would be non-functional with no lines
Have had two Subarus with Eyesight and having done probably 30 laps between Orange County and Lake Tahoe, and having driven one of them across the USA, I’d say that the Adaptive Cruise Control is 100% helpful on a long drive and you would certainly appreciate it going down to Mexico. Is it worth trading your current car in for one with Eyesight? If it’s still running well and you’re still able to make it to Mexico with it, then probably the best decision is make a few more trips with it, and when it comes time to replace it make sure you get one with Eyesight so you have Adaptive Cruise Control
Took an 800 mile highway road trip (each way). It absolutely lowers your stress levels. The adaptive cruise mostly - you dont have to keep bumping the cruise control up 2, down 1, up 1, down 2... disengage....resume... all the time on the highway. You can set it about 5 mph over the speed limit, stay in the right lane, let it follow the vehicle in front of you at the max 4 (2.5 seconds following distance), and just pay attention and steer like you normally would. way less energy spent playing with the cruise speed setting. If the vehicle ahead is going too slow, pass it when you can, and let it catch up to the next vehicle. The lane keeping is like having a co-pilot / alert passenger riding shot gun. If you look away and drift over the lane markings it will not let you drive the car off the road. another reason: to this date no one has died in a Subaru while the lane keeping cruise control functions were active.
I have Subaru ascent 2019 , eyesight only working with adaptive cruise control , no pre collision warning / brake , i set all options are on , any advice
That sounds like a weird one. Little things can throw off the eyesight system, for example if the alignment is off the steering wheel won't be centered correctly and that messes the system up, a crack in the windshield can confuse it too. My best advice right now is to take it to a dealer and have them check it, it's a safety system so you want to make sure it's functioning correctly
how do you know the pre collision is not working? are you crashing into things?! the only way I know of to really test it is to put a large cardboard or Styrofoam box in the middle of the street (or in a parking lot) and try to run into it at 30mph. you have to get really close to hitting something before it engages if it is not working there should be a red or yellow light on your dashboard telling you it has detected a failure
Have 2022 Outback Touring. I've been reluctant to use the feature for am old school. But since this video am getting used to the system. Its takes a balance approach. Still have to stay on top of the vehicle. People tend to cut in front of you with limited space. But its great system. But to tell you the truth after driving my Cadillac a 2004 model without the technology and now in the Outback its a big change. Not sure if i really wanted this in the vehicle. Seems like too much tech after the 2004 Caddy.
I figured out one thing at least, it's not sensing your hands on the wheel per say, it's sensing resistance against it turning the wheel. You can use one finger. The dream is figuring out a way to get it to work hands off. 😢
Eyesite cruise control does NOT SEE REDLIGHTS and brake for you - ever the cruise is designed to follow the car in front of you at a safe distance if you have it on and there is an obstacle ahead (car in the middle of the highway, car stopped at a red light, person crossing the road, dead animal) then the collision avoidance function will brake the car hard and avoid a crash IF IT CAN - but it will not always be able to come to a dead stop before impact. When you come to an intersection it is always better to brake yourself and resume speed when the intersection is clear - the cruise control cannot see cross traffic at an intersection. If you have it on and are following the car in front of you, and it proceeds thru a green light or stop and go (stop sign) that does not mean its clear for you to follow it thru. That is not what its for. If the car in front of you pulls out in front of a truck and you follow it, YOU are going to get t-boned
@@kenwittlief255 sorry guys it was my first car that actually had technology in it.. prior to buying the car I was driving a 2005 civic. I figured all the stuff out it’s pretty good
I love using it on road trip once I get myself outside the city limits. Still not happy with the lane centering it moves around side to side to much for me.
It depends on the rate of deceleration, but the car can and will activate it's brake lights on its own for the benefit of drivers behind you. When the little brake lights are lit up on the car at the bottom of the screen in between the speedometer and the tachometer, your brake lights are on.
Eyesight can disable itself for a number of reasons. If you are driving directly into the setting or rising sun, if there is a crack in your windshield or the windshield is dirty, or even if the car is out of alignment. If your windshield is fine and it’s not environmental conditions, take the car to your Subaru dealer and tell them it’s pulling to the left and needs an alignment. Subaru will pay for one alignment during the 3 year/36k warranty.
Namaste Dietrich bhai 😄! If you don't mind answering this- when you worked at a Subaru dealership- did you ever have a company Outback or Forester naturally aspirated that the dealership gave you for personal use? If yes wanted to know how many total miles did you get on 1 tank of gas with mixed driving?
Namaste Max! I never had a Demo (a free car the dealer gives you to drive) but I've had two Legacy Sedans and one Forester Turbo and my mom has had two non-turbo Foresters. As far as total range is concerned, the Outback has the advantage because it has a larger fuel tank. As a rule of thumb, in mixed driving you're probably looking at 300 miles in a Forester and 350 miles in an Outback. Of course there are plenty of variables there, but that's my best estimation. I once got a little over 500 miles on one tank of fuel in my 2013 Legacy 2.5i Premium, but that was on a pure highway drive that had a lot of downhill involved so that is not a realistic number. But I could get 415 miles from one tank on either of my Legacies on a pure highway drive any day of the week. I would expect to be able to do the same with an Outback, but a Forester won't get quite that far because of the smaller fuel tank.
@@CarDietrich thanks Dietrich for the reply. For the numbers that you mentioned- 300 for the Forester and 350 for the Outback, what was the fuel tank size for each car? In 2023 the new- Forester is 63 litres and the Outback 70 litres
Well, as a good American I don't know from the metric system, but the Foresters we've had in my family have all had 15.9 gallon fuel tanks, since 2010 all (US Market) Outbacks have had 18.5 gallon tanks, so those are the numbers I'm figuring with.
Idk what I’m doing wrong on my 2022 Subaru WRX , went to my dealership and the guy and me drove around and he showed me how it works but when I went to drive back home I couldn’t get the cruise control to engage (pushed the button , flicked down on set and it wouldn’t )
by any chance do you drive with both feet? if you have your left foot on the brake pedal, cruise control will disengage there might also be a minimum speed... maybe below 20mph? the lane keeping steering function wont work if there is no centerline on the street
YES! is a safety system, use it esp in heavy traffic it does not drive the car for you, you are still driving - its there to keep you from getting into an accident - it can stop the car faster than you most of the time but be aware, the lane keeping is only keeping you centered in your lane - if someone cuts you off, it will not swerve out of the way, it will not steer around objects in your path - that is still up to you
To be fair, Tesla's 'autopilot' is not autopilot either... they just market that BS as such. It's just a fancy cruise control and it fails just like all the others.
I’m surprised to hear that. My business partner and I traveled from Port Perry Ontario to Schenectady NY and drove the ENTIRE way on autopilot. It amazed me by refusing to slow down in a school zone, because it was Saturday and therefore unnecessary. It was most definitely auto-pilot.
I would probably turn off EYESIGHT if I could because of one problem. (You brought another one - bumper vs. back-of-cab.) In MY complaint, imagine making a slow right curl in a residential neighborhood. Someone backs out of their driveway rather blindly, just putting their rear bumper across the curb. My gentle swerve put my car near the center-of-road - and they DID stop when they saw me. But as I'm swerving slightly, the center of gravity shifts a bit and then EYESLIGHT slammed on the brakes. The car nearly toppled onto that misbalanced front wheel, tucking it under me. If I'd been doing 20, I might flipped! But a 15mph swerve and Eyesight's SLAMMING the brakes on definteily let me feel the out-of-balance top-heavy car lunge forward AND off-balance, too. GRRR... it was a frightening split second. I can't imagine how far a 20-25mph Forester or Crosstrek might roll over and over. "Gee - thanks, Eyesight." I'd disable the system entirely, and I was so sorry I didn't stick with 2018 models that didn't have this problem embedded.
Save your money and just find some stickers to put on the windshield where the cameras peer out. That will disable it permanently if that's what you want to do.
I disagree on using shortest distance between my Sport Subaru and the driver in front of my vehicle-even it means letting the type A personality speeders dodge in ahead of me. In fact I wish Subaru would give me more space settings to feel more comfortable with automatic braking.
I agree, if you set it to 1 or 2 you are depending on the car to save you if the car ahead stops abruptly, because it takes a human about 2 seconds to respond, esp with your foot off the pedals. If someone merges in, the car that was ahead of you is going exactly the same speed as you, and they will have to merge back out.
Why would I believe you over the video author who gave a logical explanation for the setting? If you want to convince someone, at least explain your argument. Your comment ain't no pro tip. It's a novice comment. Cheers!
@@TheRyanandKimberly Simple: with the adaptive cruise set to 70mph in a 60mph speed zone, and the distance set to 4, you will have a 2.5 second safe following distance. If something happens YOU will still be able to brake and avoid a collision if you have to. so the car infront of you is going 65, you are both in the right lane, you are 2.5 seconds behind, and a car merges into that space. What happens? your car maintains its speed if the car that merges is going faster than you. the car that merged in is going to close on the car you were following, which is still going 65. The car that merged has no where to go, and it will merge back into the passing lane at which point your car will continue to follow the car it was tracking, 2.5 seconds behind, going 65mph. You lose nothing. If the car that merged in slows down to 65 and stays there, your car will follow it 2.5 seconds behind, in which case you will arrive at your destination 2.5 seconds later.
@@kenwittlief255 I understand wanting to have more distance in a freeway scenario, however you said "NEVER" a reason for the closest following distance. How about if you are going 15 MPH, and it is bumper to bumper? You want your car to keep a closer distance to the car in front of you, so people don't cut in front of you or miss that light up ahead.
@@TheRyanandKimberly the four settings are not car lengths, they are time intervals set to four, no matter what speed you are going, your car will be 2.5 seconds behind the car it is following - when that car crosses a mark in the road you will cross it 2.5 seconds later set to three its about 2 second of buffer (again, no matter how fast you are going) 2 seconds is the min time an alert human driver can see a problem, react on the brakes or steering, and have enough space to slow down or stop - so set to three you have to pay attention totally, because if the cruise fails or disconnects (because you touched the brakes without realizing it) you will have just enough time to react and not crash. If you set it to one, the buffer is only about 1 second - you are totally depending on the car to not crash, and any interruption (sun in the cameras, bug hits the windshield), and you are in danger. Also with it set to one or two, in all 50 states, you are tail gating the car in front of you and can be ticketed. One other factor - when you are controlling the gas and brakes you are not (hopefully) just stareing at the car you are following - you are looking ahead at the traffic down the road ahead and anticipating when you will have to slow down before you get into a bad situation. The adaptive cruise control cannot see down the road - it is ONLY locked onto the car ahead of you, so if you have it set below 4, and it responds and slams on the brakes, you will almost certainly get rear ended by the vehicle behind you, because when set to 1 thru 3 the car has to brake hard to avoid a crash. If you are going to ride the bumper of the car in front of you, so that no one can ever merge into your lane, because you take that as some kind of personal insult or loss, then dont use the adaptive cruise control at all - that is NOT what its for, you will get rear ended sooner or later, and that driver will sue you for 'brake checking' them.
Disagree with your advice on how much distance to maintain behind the car in front of you in heavy traffic. It doesn't matter if someone cuts in front of you, the car will adjust. Good deal. Tailgating (i.e. following too closely behind the vehicle on front of you) is one of the primary causes of serious accidents on our highways. Give yourself plenty of room - whatever you are comfortable with. And, no. You will not be "going backwards on the freeway."
Did you see his distance behind the vehicle in front of him when it was set to "1"? I would not call that tailgating, by any means; and the "going backwards" comment was, obviously, a joke - personally, i found it quite humorous. 🙂
@@kilodog86 The Department of Transportation recommends a minimum of 3 car lengths (or, three seconds) between your vehicle and the vehicle in front of you at highway speeds. People on our freeways today are tailgating ALL THE TIME. And that is a major cause of accidents. I prefer to drive safely, thank you.
@@clayoreilly4553 the recommendation is 2 seconds (minimum) of buffer space between you and the car in front of you, at ALL speeds, as the minimum you can respond to (by braking or swerving). This also includes if that car hits a pot hole, or drives over debris in the road (like a trailer hitch) that it can clear but you might not. With the adaptive cruise set to four (highest) the following distance is 2.5 seconds, at all speeds. If you set it to 1 or 2, you are closer than 2 seconds and you are tail gating. Same as if the speed limit is 65 and you set the cruise to 75: you are speeding.
@@kenwittlief255 Well, thanks for that, Ken. I'm 76 years old and I prefer to have ample distance between myself and the car in from of me. Before they had all of this fancy safety stuff, the rule was to allow the car in front of you to pass an object and then count to three - i.e. 3 seconds - and to maintain that distance. That always worked well for me. But I really do like the new eyesight technology. It really does help.
@@clayoreilly4553 Yes, on a motorcycle you need to keep more than 2 seconds of buffer in front of you, and you need to be able to see 5 seconds ahead down the road, because you cannot run over debris without dropping the bike... so if you are behind a big truck and you cant see around it, its 5 seconds This adaptive cruise and lane steering really shines on long road trips, on interstate highways, with low or moderate traffic, because you can get in the right lane, set it about 5mph over the speed limit, and for 99% of the trip just follow behind another car going a bit over the speed limit, without constantly fiddling with the set speed. I took a long trip in a '22 outback along with my son in his (other) car. Mostly I let him go ahead, he set his cruise to 70mph, and the outback followed him about 100 feet back. It was fun watching cars pass me, pull in between us, realize he was going the same speed I was, and pull back into the passing lane.
Sir U shouldn't kid around by saying things like u will be going in reverse. Also I use the longest space and in about half hour driving in heavy traffic people do not care to constantly squeeze and switch lanes. Cheers
its not suppose to its like having a co-pilot, YOU are still steering - you have to look out for all obstacles as long as there is 1 line (center line) it still works perfectly on country roads
Too much talking, it's get more confusing. Go to the point. Why the put all those gadgets. Who cares! Just give me a car. The do it to jack up the price. That's all!
No one has ever died in a Subaru with the adaptive cruise and lane keeping steering functions active 40,000 people died in vehicle accidents in the US last year it is needed, it is a blessing
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Watched your video a year ago thinking about a Subaru, and now this morning I have a brand new 2024 Outback Limited. Gonna take it out on the road and follow your instructions. Thank you.... Not thinking I'd ever set the speed to 90
I just found this video. Thank you for uploading. OMG, I knew the area looked familiar. I’m a SoCal transplant. I moved to the Pacific Northwest about 28 years ago. You live in the area I used to live. Nice to see that area didn’t change much. Oh, I miss SoCal freeways. I mean that in a good and bad way. I miss the traffic like you are in because I sit in one lane traffic every day. It’s the type of traffic where there is no way around it. No getting off on a side street. It’s a you are doomed for 45 min slow crawl no escape. I also miss the beauty and design of SoCal freeways. Once you have driven in a state where freeways are not labeled correctly, constantly being worked on, or a highway infested with traffic lights, you will tear up and long for the days where you can drive on SoCal freeways going over 60 mph and NOT get pulled over by an unmarked state police car (WA state has them, drivers beware).
im using my subaru for 3yrs and i haven't used this feature. thanks for this video its a big help ,im gonna used it now hehe
Happy to help!
You didn’t mention the way to switch from adaptive cruise control to regular cruise control and back again by holding a following distance button, but thanks for the clear and concise explanation and tutorial of a great feature.
I agree. Excellent video tutorial. The cruise control can be used as an old-fashioned system without the adaptive part, if you want. Just hold the cruise on/off button until the distance bars turn off. Also, for anyone concerned, the brake lights go on automatically when using the adaptive feature. By the way, the icon for cruise control isn't a clock, it's a speedometer. I know, trivial but details are details. I love the adaptive system, including lane centering when I (rarely) need to look for something in the center console or the glove box.
I drive a 2021 crosstrek limited, which I absolutely love, and it took some time and experimenting with the controls to get a feel for the adaptive cruise control. Just some things that I've experienced:
1. The lane centering loves to hug the right side line whether you're in the cruising lane or passing lane. There have been times where its felt that I had to fight the system to bring my car more to the left side of center such as passing a truck. Its instinctive as a driver. But as a consequence when you let the lane centering take back over sometimes it over corrects and even crosses the line to the right lane. I'd say the system works best in the right lane.
2. He said adaptive works best in heavy traffic. Yes and no. Like he said, you can set the car length gap up to four. Even at one car length theres still a pretty large gap that people will dip in and out of which will make you car brake a little harder. Otherwise its fantastic like he demonstrated.
3. If you have the speed set at, let say 75, and you lane slows down to 40 and you decide to switch lanes to get around the slowdown, if there are no cars your cruise will automatically speed back up quickly, so be cautious of others in front of you making the same move as your eyesight will only catch it when that car is fully in front of you.
That being said I love my crosstrek and the eyesight w/adaptive control is truly amazing.
Very well put. My 2022 outback xt has exactly the same behavior.
On the 2022 outback we have the centering is pretty much perfect. You can tell how well the car is centered by looking in your side mirrors on both sides, and seeing how much space is there between the line and the side of your car. Personally I prefer to keep more to the right side of the lane, esp on 2 lane roads, so you have a little more room with oncoming traffic if they start coming over the centerline.
I dont agree with the video on setting the cruise distance to 1 bar. The setting controls the TIME between you and the car infront of you, not car lengths. At the full 4 setting its 2.5 seconds, and its 2.5 seconds at 30mph, or 55, or 70, or 90.. That is what it should be.
The minimum following distance at any speed should be 2 seconds. That is how long it will take for a human to notice the car in front is slowing down (or slamming on the brakes), respond by stepping on the brake, and swerving if necessary to avoid a collision. Setting the car to 3 will put you around 2 seconds, and that is the min. Less than that, if the car infront of you stops dead, YOU wont be able to respond. The cruise control might be able to respond and stop the car faster than you.... IF ITS WORKING 100%. At that point you are putting your life in the hands of the adaptive cruise control, which can fail (sun in the cameras...) because you will not be able to take over fast enough. Another reason not to set the cruise to 1 or 2: when you drive you are looking at the traffic down the road, you can normally see past the car in front of you, and if you see a stream of red brake lights, or cars slowing down, you start to slow down before you get there. The cruise control is NOT looking at all the cars ahead all the way down the road, it is only locked on the car infront of you. If he is not paying attention and brakes hard, the cruise control will have to brake even harder to not hit him, and its likely the car behind you will not be able to stop and will rear end YOU!
The good news is if you have your cruise set to 70mph, and the speed limit is 65, and you have that nice space in front of you, when a car merges into that space, even close, the cruise will not apply the brakes to immediately create a 2.5 second following distance. As long as the car that merged is going faster than you, the cruise will maintain its speed and let the faster car create the 2.5 second distance.
I have to say, this only happens if you are driving in the passing lane. If you are on a long trip, stay in the right hand lane, set the cruise control to 5mph over the speed limit, and you will have a safe, easy drive, and very few people will merge into the 2.5 second space in front of you, because you are going the same speed as the car infront of you, and as soon as they merge in, they will have to merge back out to the passing lane. If you get behind a slow poke pass them when you can, then get back in the right lane.
When you use the adaptive cruise and the lane centering, its like having a passenger who is paying attention just as much as you are, who can reach over and tug on the wheel if you are drifting out of your lane, and has their own brake pedal if you are about to hit someone.
As of today no one has been killed in a Subaru with Eyesite lane keeping engaged, and that says a lot (esp compared to tesla's dismal record of "auto pilot" fatal accidents).
One more thing: the gain (tightness) of the adaptive cruise control is adjustable in the cars setup menus (when the car is in park, Setting, driver assist.... its in there somewhere). You can change how hard the car will speed up and slow down to maintain its steady speed, like when you hit resume, or going up a hill. There are 4 settings, and the default is 3. I find that is a little too aggressive when going up hills, esp blind hills. When you are cresting a blind hill or curve you normally let off the gas a bit till you can see over it. If you have the level to 3 or 4, it feels like the car is flooring the gas to keep the speed up, and its un-nerving. I prefer the "comfort" setting 2. If you have older people in the car you might want to set it to one, so the car does not accelerate like you are driving "like a maniac" when the cruise control is active.
something else: when you are driving on roads where the speed changes, if you have the cruise set to 60mph, and you are following a car that is going 55
and you come into a town with a 30mph speed limit - your car will continue to stay behind the car its following and match its speed.
if he is speeding you will be speeding too
and if that car turns a corner, as soon as its clear your car will speed up quickly to 60mph, because that's what you set it to 30 miles back...
If the car in front turned right on a red after stopping, then your car is going to take off like a bat out of hell thru the red light
if the car in front of you proceeds thru an intersection, you car is going to follow it, whether there is cross traffic coming or not!
when you enter a town or reduced speed zone, click your cruise control speed down to match the speed zone, and use your brake pedal to stop your car
on a long trip its easy to start thinking the car is doing the speed and the brakes for everything - its not.
Great video and thanks for showing an actual demonstration! Really useful to see it actually working on a freeway and in traffic like that. Appreciate it!
This is the best video on Subaru EyeSight. Honestly; I watched about 100 of them :) Thank you very much!
Thank you so much 👍
Thanks for this very informative video on the lane Centering and Adaptive cruise control for the Subaru. I've only had my new 23 Outback for 3 weeks so still learning all the features. A friend asked me about lane keeping so that got me confused until I found your video. I never used cruise control driving around SoCal so that will be something new to try. Thanks again for the great video.
Glad it was helpful!
This is a really good explanation of the system. I just bought an Outback Wilderness. You can access chassis and dash lights by pushing the engine start button twice and keeping your foot off the brake pedal. The first time you push the start button the lane center activates and the steering wheel snaps to "attention". I would make sure your steering wheel is fairly well centered before doing this.
I may be a bit confused, are you talking about pressing the engine start button while the car is off?
that sounds like a service mode, dont do that!
Thanks for this great video. Just bought a 2023 Outback and now I understand ACC and lane centering on my Subaru, thanks to you.
Thank You and the well explained eyesight feature, which i find works very well on my new 2023 WRX 👍 Au
I gót Mỹ 23 ascent , my first trip to Canada .. I used all that safety .. I can tell it’s amazing Subaru do .. eyesights work crazy good.. even follow the car in front the way it’s brakes low down it’s smoother then me 😂😂😂.. amazing Subaru.. I love my ascent
Buying a ‘22 forester premium today, happy to see this feature!
You explained that on the freeway you should set the following distance to the minimum. I’ve actually tested it and each bar is one(1) second distance to the car ahead regardless of speed. I never drive with less than two(2) second distances (thousands and one thousand and two) as recommended. Only during town driving will I set it to one(1) second distance so drivers don’t cut me off all the time. I set it to three(3) second distance when I tow a trailer as it takes longer to break
Thanks mate,as subaru newbie its help to get the right tips&tricks. Cheers 🇦🇺
No problem 👍
thank goodness for this video. I couldn't find anything in my user manual.
Thanks!
Thank you Charles!
Great video, and best explanation I've seen yet on how this system works. I used to think the brake light indicators on the multifunction display were just an Easter egg, but I realize it's useful to know what the drivers behind you are seeing if your car is braking automatically.
Totally in agreement with pushing all the buttons I paid for. Gonna get the most out of mine when it comes in.
2024 forester premium owner here. When I'm on the freeway, my lane cantering makes the car sway between the lines, like it can't find a center. I have the lane departure warning/lane keep assist off. It seems to work better on the back roads, but I have to shut it off on the freeway because I feel like i have to fight it constantly. Does it need to be calibrated or something? I've only got 900 miles on the car.
THANK YOU!!! I have a new 2023 Forester and was not educated very well. This video covers one of my questionable topics very well!
You're welcome Emma!
Same here... I'm unhappy that the dealer lacked personnel for hands-on discussions. This chap spent about 20 minutes doing this, and gave me an hour's worth of education. THANKS FOR THAT!!
finally i understand it - your explanation and demo was brilliant thank you
I Love the adaptive cruise with lane centering! We just bought a 2022 Forester Wilderness with the eyesight embedded in the windshield.
I just tried it going into town and I wanted to see if it would stop at the light behind the car and it worked great
Very helpful 👌
Great video! Thank you so much. I am buying an Ascent Touring (2021) and pick it up in 2 days.
Admittedly I only have a couple of weeks on our new 2023 Forester, but I haven't developed a liking to the lane centering feature. I feel like it hunts the center going first towards one side of the lane, then overcorrecting slightly until it needs to (over)correct towards the other edge of the lane back and forth in a small motion. It is as if it is rattling along going back and forth within the lane. I can do a much smoother job of centering manually.
I might not notice it as much if I didn't have to keep my hands on the steering wheel, but even if the system didn't require it, who wants to trust it that much?
We'll be driving four hours to the beach next week so I'll give it a much longer and better chance, with some nice, bright lane markings and smooth pavement.
After living with it for a year and a half in my Legacy XT, I'm convinced it does that to make sure you keep your hands on the wheel
@@CarDietrich I don't know, but I do know that it nags me if it doesn't think my hands are not just on the wheel, but wrapped around it. I suspect that it moves a bit back and forth in the lane to make sure it is actually seeing the stripes and not something else.
I also suppose I might be such a control freak when driving, that I don't like it steering differently than I would.
I'll get a nice long test next week with a around 200 miles of expresswy driving.
I agree with the hunting within the lane if you let it steer completely.
It seems to be more noticeable at 55mph than at 70 or faster.
Its ok if you are in the car alone, but if you have passengers it feels like you are weaving, makes their heads bob, and its uncomfortable
the solution is to always keep steering the car yourself with it on, after all this is suppose to be an assist, not full self driving, and keep the car slightly more towards one side of the lane or the other - then it will be gently pulling against you and the pull will be constant (not weaving).
Ive also noticed if you take your eyes off the road for a few seconds and the car drifts over in the lane (because you are steering it over) when it gets to a certain point it will steer the car back more abruptly than you would, and your passengers will feel like you jerked the wheel. Thats what its suppose to do, keep the car in the lane, but if you keep doing it your passengers will feel ill-at ease
@@kenwittlief255 I've gotten several hundred miles on it now, including NC to Montreal and back and several beach trips, and still haven't gotten to like it, I can drive it myself with less effort than it tskes just to let it know that I still have my hands on the wheel. I'd say it is best for people who continue to believe they can multitask and still be a good driver. I love the car, but that doesn't mean I love everything about it and this is one of the things I consider to be subpar. The navigation system, with its multilevel menues is another.
@@jerrymiller276 I agree with you, it does demand your attention, and when it thinks you are too close to the edge of the lane it tries to push you back, whether you like it or not
that includes if you a moving over to avoid an object in the road, or a pot hole, or a car coming the other way is hugging the center line. I dont mind it driving alone, but it tends to startle a passenger - Im a very smooth driver on the controls.
Also if you are on a secondary road and go thru an intersection, the steering turns off (no center line) and dings at you. That gets annoying, when I see it coming I turn the steering off just to avoid the dinging.
Ive said this in other responses, one thing that makes Eyesight worth the minor annoyances: so far no one has died in a Subaru while the adaptive cruise and lane centering was active. Subarus safety record is already excellent without it, but compared to tesla cars, I think they are over 60 deaths now with their version active, it has a nasty habit of slamming on the brakes at highway speeds for no reason, and it also crashes into stopped police and ambulance vehicles on the side of the highway (repeatedly).. And that 60 deaths is probably low, because when their version gets into trouble, it turns itself OFF completely about 2 seconds before impact, and flashes the driver to "TAKE OVER!" so tesla can say "it wasnt active when the accident happened".
Eyesight also has the collision avoidance and pedestrian avoidance functions which I think are always on, unless you disable them in the setup menu (you cannot drive thru a carwash with them on, it will lock up the brakes).
Personally I think of it as having an alert copilot, and I tend to use it on any long ride or trip.
I have a 2017 Outback limited with Eyesight and love it.
I also find that it seems it accelerates when you turn on your turning signals to lane change.
Great video. Clear and concise. Kudos
I agree, this system is up there with sliced bread & the back up camera.
22OB wilderness
Lane centering wanders all over the lane and makes abrupt corrections. It all but induces motion sickness. I don’t use it.
Cruise control refuses to begin to track a vehicle where there is a higher closing rate - you will rear end it if you do not intervene. It also way overreacts to tracked vehicle turning right. You will essentially stop even though they have cleared the lane.
Still, I really like the adaptive cruise as long as you understand the bugs.
its not auto pilot - you are suppose to be steering, and it keeps you from leaving the lane
if the car wanders its because YOU are wandering (not steering).
and yes: if you are going 75mph and vehicles are stopped dead in the road ahead, the adaptive cruise control will crash right into them.
It locks onto and FOLLOWS other vehicles, it does not stop you from driving into brick walls or stopped cars.
A great analysis. Thank you. 🇺🇸👍
Helpful vid as always, Dietrich! Thank you! 👍
You are very welcome!
Best video I have ever seen. I have a 2020 Forester. I can't figure out how to turn off the feature that beeps when you go over the white line. I don't even know I turned it on. Do you have a video for that? Thanks
That feature is called Lane Departure Warning. When sitting in the driver's seat, look up and find the button with the car going through the lane line, its going to be in the middle near where the power moonroof control or sunglasses holder is. Push and hold that button for three or so seconds until you hear a beep. You'll see a yellow light with that logo on the instrument cluster and you will have disabled the system.
Thanks for the video
Thanks for this excellent video! Can you explain what the difference is between the lane centering assistance described here, and the lane departure assist found in the driving assistance tab of the infotainment system? Are they identical? It seems strange that both exist.
The Lane Centering can assist with steering to keep you centered in the lane when the cameras can read the lane lines. The Lane Keep Assist just beeps at you when you drift over a lane line
great video. thanks for this breakdown
Glad it was helpful!
Can it be disabled to go back to old school cruise control without eyesight assistance? I haven't found a way to do that by pressing and holding buttons alone or in combination
Is it possible to use the adaptive cruise control without the lane centring feature? I tried the way that you were doing it and I didn’t like the way the car was fighting me for positioning.
Yes, just set the Adaptive Cruise and don't turn the lane centering on
@@CarDietrich thanks I think I have that figured out. To use a traditional cruise control use the adaptive cc button then hold the car length button and it beeps. I hope it works as part of my driving is 2 lane highways and the adaptive scares me a bit. I will practise on 4 lane highways with the adaptive
Crosstrek 2024 has the electric park now!
11:21 I live in the Pacific Northwest where fog is common. I guess I already know the answer, but what is your take on it?? I have noticed, also, that our DOT fills cracks in the asphalt with tar, which, visually, looks like a squiggly line and lane centering gets fooled by it. I have the exceptionally awesome 2019 Outback with the 3.6L engine.
I wouldn’t use the adaptive cruise in heavy fog, but then again the system will disable itself if it feels like it can’t see well enough, so if you’re gonna use it in fog just make sure paying proper attention. Unfortunately the road repair practices in rural areas can often confuse lane centering and lane keeping systems.
I have a new Outback and have a question about the adaptive cruise control. When the car slows down (brakes) due to getting too close to the car in front, do the brake lights come on notifying the car following me of the braking action?
Yes they do. Subaru actually displays this, if you look at the little graphic of your car in the center screen between the speedometer and tachometer, the Outback in the graphic will light up its brake lights to tell you when your car has illuminated its brake lights for motorists behind you.
Thx for the nice tutoring sir!
I’m gonna skip reading the eyesight manual and push them tonite!
Thank you for watching!
Great video. Thank you !
Thank you for watching!
Love the left hand driving while the right hand holds the phone ;)
I have a 2017 Outback. The lane assist is so loud it drives me crazy-is there a way to turn it down without turning it off?
Unfortunately no its either on or off
Very helpful video. I have a 2023 Legacy but only just recently tried the cruise control. Will try it in traffic, that's a great idea. How do you set it in 1 mph increments on the open road? Mine only seems to set in 5mph increments. Thanks.
On my 2021 Legacy one quick bump on the +/- toggle switches changed the speed in one mph increments
@@CarDietrich I'll try that, thank you!
@@CarDietrich I just tried this on the way home and my 2023 Legacy goes in 5 mph increments with a short bump - you have to hold it a bit longer to get the 1 mph. If you hold it down steady it goes faster but by 1mph at a time. Is that opposite of yours or you don't have the 5mph increments?
Hold for +/- 1km, quick click for +/- 5km (or miles) depending on location.
it makes sense when you get use to it
speed limits are always in multiples of 5mph - Ive never seen a speed limit 43mph sign
Great Video Thanks a lot
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
Great video thank you 🙏🏿
Thanks for watching!
Does lane centering also vibrate and tug the steering wheel if you cross the lines without signaling like the older lane keep assist?
It works more smoothly than the old Lane Keep Assist system. It will beep at you if you cross the line but it doesn't really tug the steering wheel sharply the way the other one did. You will feel it in the steering wheel but it's smoother and it makes smaller corrections because it's actively trying to keep you in the center of the lane.
Once I turned out for an off ramp with the lane centering on, that was a hair raising experience. So remember to turn it off….
How does the lane assist work with a motor cycle in front of you?
Nice video
I only use lane centering when I'm in heavy bumper to bumper traffic. The car stops, goes, keeps its set distance, and stays in its lane. Just set the cruise control dynamics to eco.
How does one set Cruise Control Dynamics to ECO?
@RobinMiller-jl2pi "The Cruise Control Acceleration Characteristics of the Adaptive Cruise Control system can be set to one of four levels.
Lv. 4 (Dynamic): Mode used when powerful acceleration is required.
Lv. 3 (Standard): Mode used when performing frequent following, with a following function that focuses on the speed of the vehicle ahead.
Lv. 2 (Comfort): Mode used when performing following with smooth movement.
Lv. 1 (Eco): Mode that focuses on fuel economy over following the vehicle ahead, it is used when performing following with smooth movement.
I haven't had a chance to test these different settings to see how they affect ACC since I just learned about them last nite, but I wonder if anyone else has? The descriptions of their differences isn't too enlightening to me. The default appears to be Lv. 3.
I'm wondering, too, if changing these settings will affect the variance in maintaining the set speed. I've found that mine varies about 2 mph on each side of the set speed, which is worse than what I was used to in previous cars. I travel on moderately hilly roads at roughly sea level (Virginia). When the car accelerates up a hill, it will usually be 2 mph over the set speed by the time I crest the hill and when I go down a hill, it will usually drop to 2 mph by the time I get to the bottom. Previous cars stayed within about 1 mph in those circumstances."
I'm sitting here considering trading in my 2015 with 108k miles that has been a wonderful vehicle just so I can have this feature. Twice a year I drive 2,200 miles, 50 hours to Puerto Vallarta and back. With 8-9 hour days through Ore, Cal, more. I wonder just how much less demanding this drive would be? I've wanted to survey actual owners to find whether this is just a PIA... or a good thing. Once inside Mexico any lane assist would be non-functional with no lines
Have had two Subarus with Eyesight and having done probably 30 laps between Orange County and Lake Tahoe, and having driven one of them across the USA, I’d say that the Adaptive Cruise Control is 100% helpful on a long drive and you would certainly appreciate it going down to Mexico. Is it worth trading your current car in for one with Eyesight? If it’s still running well and you’re still able to make it to Mexico with it, then probably the best decision is make a few more trips with it, and when it comes time to replace it make sure you get one with Eyesight so you have Adaptive Cruise Control
Took an 800 mile highway road trip (each way).
It absolutely lowers your stress levels.
The adaptive cruise mostly - you dont have to keep bumping the cruise control up 2, down 1, up 1, down 2... disengage....resume... all the time on the highway. You can set it about 5 mph over the speed limit, stay in the right lane, let it follow the vehicle in front of you at the max 4 (2.5 seconds following distance), and just pay attention and steer like you normally would.
way less energy spent playing with the cruise speed setting. If the vehicle ahead is going too slow, pass it when you can, and let it catch up to the next vehicle.
The lane keeping is like having a co-pilot / alert passenger riding shot gun. If you look away and drift over the lane markings it will not let you drive the car off the road.
another reason: to this date no one has died in a Subaru while the lane keeping cruise control functions were active.
I have Subaru ascent 2019 , eyesight only working with adaptive cruise control , no pre collision warning / brake , i set all options are on , any advice
That sounds like a weird one. Little things can throw off the eyesight system, for example if the alignment is off the steering wheel won't be centered correctly and that messes the system up, a crack in the windshield can confuse it too. My best advice right now is to take it to a dealer and have them check it, it's a safety system so you want to make sure it's functioning correctly
how do you know the pre collision is not working? are you crashing into things?!
the only way I know of to really test it is to put a large cardboard or Styrofoam box in the middle of the street (or in a parking lot) and try to run into it at 30mph.
you have to get really close to hitting something before it engages
if it is not working there should be a red or yellow light on your dashboard telling you it has detected a failure
Have 2022 Outback Touring. I've been reluctant to use the feature for am old school. But since this video am getting used to the system. Its takes a balance approach. Still have to stay on top of the vehicle. People tend to cut in front of you with limited space.
But its great system. But to tell you the truth after driving my Cadillac a 2004 model without the technology and now in the Outback its a big change. Not sure if i really wanted this in the vehicle. Seems like too much tech after the 2004 Caddy.
Hi, does the outback wilderness have lane centering too or is it only certain trim levels?
Outback Wilderness has it too. All new Outbacks do
When I use lane centering on my 2021 it forces me to have my hands on the wheel or it starts making noises, is there a way to turn this setting off?
You are meant to keep your hands on the while using this system. It is not designed for “hands free” driving.
@@CarDietrich Ok, thanks
I figured out one thing at least, it's not sensing your hands on the wheel per say, it's sensing resistance against it turning the wheel. You can use one finger. The dream is figuring out a way to get it to work hands off. 😢
I just bought a 22 Subaru Wrx limited with eye sight technology. sometimes when I turn on active assist it doesn’t always brake on time at a red light
it brakes at red lights? like when you’re gonna be the first car at the lane? never knew that!
Eyesite cruise control does NOT SEE REDLIGHTS and brake for you - ever
the cruise is designed to follow the car in front of you at a safe distance
if you have it on and there is an obstacle ahead (car in the middle of the highway, car stopped at a red light, person crossing the road, dead animal) then the collision avoidance function will brake the car hard and avoid a crash IF IT CAN - but it will not always be able to come to a dead stop before impact.
When you come to an intersection it is always better to brake yourself and resume speed when the intersection is clear - the cruise control cannot see cross traffic at an intersection. If you have it on and are following the car in front of you, and it proceeds thru a green light or stop and go (stop sign) that does not mean its clear for you to follow it thru. That is not what its for. If the car in front of you pulls out in front of a truck and you follow it, YOU are going to get t-boned
@@kenwittlief255 sorry guys it was my first car that actually had technology in it.. prior to buying the car I was driving a 2005 civic. I figured all the stuff out it’s pretty good
I love using it on road trip once I get myself outside the city limits. Still not happy with the lane centering it moves around side to side to much for me.
To be clear, I can use Adaptive Cruise Control with/without using Lane Centering?
Yes
Great video but I wish I had actual fuel and temp gauges on my '21 Forester.
It should be in the "car info" section of your screen.
I said "Actual fuel and temp gauges", NOT lights or symbols. @@domenik8339
When you auto slow down, do your break lights come on each time?
It depends on the rate of deceleration, but the car can and will activate it's brake lights on its own for the benefit of drivers behind you. When the little brake lights are lit up on the car at the bottom of the screen in between the speedometer and the tachometer, your brake lights are on.
Why EYESIGHT sometimes turn off by itself on Forester 2023?
Eyesight can disable itself for a number of reasons. If you are driving directly into the setting or rising sun, if there is a crack in your windshield or the windshield is dirty, or even if the car is out of alignment. If your windshield is fine and it’s not environmental conditions, take the car to your Subaru dealer and tell them it’s pulling to the left and needs an alignment. Subaru will pay for one alignment during the 3 year/36k warranty.
Namaste Dietrich bhai 😄! If you don't mind answering this- when you worked at a Subaru dealership- did you ever have a company Outback or Forester naturally aspirated that the dealership gave you for personal use?
If yes wanted to know how many total miles did you get on 1 tank of gas with mixed driving?
Namaste Max! I never had a Demo (a free car the dealer gives you to drive) but I've had two Legacy Sedans and one Forester Turbo and my mom has had two non-turbo Foresters. As far as total range is concerned, the Outback has the advantage because it has a larger fuel tank. As a rule of thumb, in mixed driving you're probably looking at 300 miles in a Forester and 350 miles in an Outback. Of course there are plenty of variables there, but that's my best estimation. I once got a little over 500 miles on one tank of fuel in my 2013 Legacy 2.5i Premium, but that was on a pure highway drive that had a lot of downhill involved so that is not a realistic number. But I could get 415 miles from one tank on either of my Legacies on a pure highway drive any day of the week. I would expect to be able to do the same with an Outback, but a Forester won't get quite that far because of the smaller fuel tank.
@@CarDietrich thanks Dietrich for the reply. For the numbers that you mentioned- 300 for the Forester and 350 for the Outback, what was the fuel tank size for each car?
In 2023 the new- Forester is 63 litres and the Outback 70 litres
Well, as a good American I don't know from the metric system, but the Foresters we've had in my family have all had 15.9 gallon fuel tanks, since 2010 all (US Market) Outbacks have had 18.5 gallon tanks, so those are the numbers I'm figuring with.
@@CarDietrich hahaha ok thanks
You are welcome Max!
Idk what I’m doing wrong on my 2022 Subaru WRX , went to my dealership and the guy and me drove around and he showed me how it works but when I went to drive back home I couldn’t get the cruise control to engage (pushed the button , flicked down on set and it wouldn’t )
Is your WRX a CVT?
@@CarDietrich yep
I don't know what to tell you then, the instructions in this video should work
by any chance do you drive with both feet?
if you have your left foot on the brake pedal, cruise control will disengage
there might also be a minimum speed... maybe below 20mph?
the lane keeping steering function wont work if there is no centerline on the street
is this a subaru wrx? What year?
2021 Legacy XT Touring
@@CarDietrich Nice! Hoping one day I will get a subaru wrx!
Does Subaru really recommend using it in heavy traffic?
I don't know, but I've had two Subarus with Eyesight myself and that's where I've gotten the most use out of it
YES! is a safety system, use it esp in heavy traffic
it does not drive the car for you, you are still driving - its there to keep you from getting into an accident - it can stop the car faster than you most of the time
but be aware, the lane keeping is only keeping you centered in your lane - if someone cuts you off, it will not swerve out of the way, it will not steer around objects in your path - that is still up to you
CAR/CLOCKButton is actually CAR/SPEEDDOMETER BUTTON.
To be fair, Tesla's 'autopilot' is not autopilot either... they just market that BS as such. It's just a fancy cruise control and it fails just like all the others.
Volvo’s as well but it is good for the purpose.
I’m surprised to hear that. My business partner and I traveled from Port Perry Ontario to Schenectady NY and drove the ENTIRE way on autopilot. It amazed me by refusing to slow down in a school zone, because it was Saturday and therefore unnecessary. It was most definitely auto-pilot.
I would probably turn off EYESIGHT if I could because of one problem. (You brought another one - bumper vs. back-of-cab.) In MY complaint, imagine making a slow right curl in a residential neighborhood. Someone backs out of their driveway rather blindly, just putting their rear bumper across the curb. My gentle swerve put my car near the center-of-road - and they DID stop when they saw me. But as I'm swerving slightly, the center of gravity shifts a bit and then EYESLIGHT slammed on the brakes. The car nearly toppled onto that misbalanced front wheel, tucking it under me. If I'd been doing 20, I might flipped! But a 15mph swerve and Eyesight's SLAMMING the brakes on definteily let me feel the out-of-balance top-heavy car lunge forward AND off-balance, too. GRRR... it was a frightening split second. I can't imagine how far a 20-25mph Forester or Crosstrek might roll over and over. "Gee - thanks, Eyesight." I'd disable the system entirely, and I was so sorry I didn't stick with 2018 models that didn't have this problem embedded.
There is a $90 product that claims to replace the Eyesight plug-in module with a bypass-kill-system adapter. Anyone try that?
Save your money and just find some stickers to put on the windshield where the cameras peer out. That will disable it permanently if that's what you want to do.
I disagree on using shortest distance between my Sport Subaru and the driver in front of my vehicle-even it means letting the type A personality speeders dodge in ahead of me. In fact I wish Subaru would give me more space settings to feel more comfortable with automatic braking.
I agree, if you set it to 1 or 2 you are depending on the car to save you if the car ahead stops abruptly, because it takes a human about 2 seconds to respond, esp with your foot off the pedals. If someone merges in, the car that was ahead of you is going exactly the same speed as you, and they will have to merge back out.
Pro tip. There is NEVER a reason to use the “shortest” following distance.
Why would I believe you over the video author who gave a logical explanation for the setting? If you want to convince someone, at least explain your argument. Your comment ain't no pro tip. It's a novice comment. Cheers!
@@TheRyanandKimberly Simple: with the adaptive cruise set to 70mph in a 60mph speed zone, and the distance set to 4, you will have a 2.5 second safe following distance. If something happens YOU will still be able to brake and avoid a collision if you have to.
so the car infront of you is going 65, you are both in the right lane, you are 2.5 seconds behind, and a car merges into that space. What happens?
your car maintains its speed if the car that merges is going faster than you.
the car that merged in is going to close on the car you were following, which is still going 65. The car that merged has no where to go, and it will merge back into the passing lane
at which point your car will continue to follow the car it was tracking, 2.5 seconds behind, going 65mph. You lose nothing.
If the car that merged in slows down to 65 and stays there, your car will follow it 2.5 seconds behind, in which case you will arrive at your destination 2.5 seconds later.
@@kenwittlief255 I understand wanting to have more distance in a freeway scenario, however you said "NEVER" a reason for the closest following distance. How about if you are going 15 MPH, and it is bumper to bumper? You want your car to keep a closer distance to the car in front of you, so people don't cut in front of you or miss that light up ahead.
@@TheRyanandKimberly the four settings are not car lengths, they are time intervals
set to four, no matter what speed you are going, your car will be 2.5 seconds behind the car it is following - when that car crosses a mark in the road you will cross it 2.5 seconds later
set to three its about 2 second of buffer (again, no matter how fast you are going)
2 seconds is the min time an alert human driver can see a problem, react on the brakes or steering, and have enough space to slow down or stop - so set to three you have to pay attention totally, because if the cruise fails or disconnects (because you touched the brakes without realizing it) you will have just enough time to react and not crash.
If you set it to one, the buffer is only about 1 second - you are totally depending on the car to not crash, and any interruption (sun in the cameras, bug hits the windshield), and you are in danger. Also with it set to one or two, in all 50 states, you are tail gating the car in front of you and can be ticketed.
One other factor - when you are controlling the gas and brakes you are not (hopefully) just stareing at the car you are following - you are looking ahead at the traffic down the road ahead and anticipating when you will have to slow down before you get into a bad situation. The adaptive cruise control cannot see down the road - it is ONLY locked onto the car ahead of you, so if you have it set below 4, and it responds and slams on the brakes, you will almost certainly get rear ended by the vehicle behind you, because when set to 1 thru 3 the car has to brake hard to avoid a crash.
If you are going to ride the bumper of the car in front of you, so that no one can ever merge into your lane, because you take that as some kind of personal insult or loss, then dont use the adaptive cruise control at all - that is NOT what its for, you will get rear ended sooner or later, and that driver will sue you for 'brake checking' them.
Why was your cruise control speed set to **90 mph**??
Just in case the local government decided to increase the legal speed limit while I was filming the video.
Maybe the speed limit would be a good idea.
So glad I don’t live in California
Disagree with your advice on how much distance to maintain behind the car in front of you in heavy traffic. It doesn't matter if someone cuts in front of you, the car will adjust. Good deal. Tailgating (i.e. following too closely behind the vehicle on front of you) is one of the primary causes of serious accidents on our highways. Give yourself plenty of room - whatever you are comfortable with. And, no. You will not be "going backwards on the freeway."
Did you see his distance behind the vehicle in front of him when it was set to "1"? I would not call that tailgating, by any means; and the "going backwards" comment was, obviously, a joke - personally, i found it quite humorous. 🙂
@@kilodog86 The Department of Transportation recommends a minimum of 3 car lengths (or, three seconds) between your vehicle and the vehicle in front of you at highway speeds. People on our freeways today are tailgating ALL THE TIME. And that is a major cause of accidents. I prefer to drive safely, thank you.
@@clayoreilly4553 the recommendation is 2 seconds (minimum) of buffer space between you and the car in front of you, at ALL speeds, as the minimum you can respond to (by braking or swerving). This also includes if that car hits a pot hole, or drives over debris in the road (like a trailer hitch) that it can clear but you might not. With the adaptive cruise set to four (highest) the following distance is 2.5 seconds, at all speeds.
If you set it to 1 or 2, you are closer than 2 seconds and you are tail gating.
Same as if the speed limit is 65 and you set the cruise to 75: you are speeding.
@@kenwittlief255 Well, thanks for that, Ken. I'm 76 years old and I prefer to have ample distance between myself and the car in from of me. Before they had all of this fancy safety stuff, the rule was to allow the car in front of you to pass an object and then count to three - i.e. 3 seconds - and to maintain that distance. That always worked well for me. But I really do like the new eyesight technology. It really does help.
@@clayoreilly4553 Yes, on a motorcycle you need to keep more than 2 seconds of buffer in front of you, and you need to be able to see 5 seconds ahead down the road, because you cannot run over debris without dropping the bike... so if you are behind a big truck and you cant see around it, its 5 seconds
This adaptive cruise and lane steering really shines on long road trips, on interstate highways, with low or moderate traffic, because you can get in the right lane, set it about 5mph over the speed limit, and for 99% of the trip just follow behind another car going a bit over the speed limit, without constantly fiddling with the set speed.
I took a long trip in a '22 outback along with my son in his (other) car. Mostly I let him go ahead, he set his cruise to 70mph, and the outback followed him about 100 feet back. It was fun watching cars pass me, pull in between us, realize he was going the same speed I was, and pull back into the passing lane.
Sir U shouldn't kid around by saying things like u will be going in reverse.
Also I use the longest space and in about half hour driving in heavy traffic people do not care to constantly squeeze and switch lanes.
Cheers
Lane centring might be good on a quality road but it will not recognise or dodge potholes.
So don't use it on country roads.
its not suppose to
its like having a co-pilot, YOU are still steering - you have to look out for all obstacles
as long as there is 1 line (center line) it still works perfectly on country roads
The longer the distance between cars, the safer you are. Your advice seems unsafe.
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In heavy traffic it's safer than being cut off all the time in my opinion, but try it your way and see how it works for you
California drivers suck
the other 49 states are drivable
Too much talking, it's get more confusing. Go to the point. Why the put all those gadgets. Who cares! Just give me a car. The do it to jack up the price. That's all!
This crap makes driving less safe because it encourages you to not do your job and pay attention and we all know it.
Try not to say "kind of" so often.
It realy not needed
No one has ever died in a Subaru with the adaptive cruise and lane keeping steering functions active
40,000 people died in vehicle accidents in the US last year
it is needed, it is a blessing
Why do you have to say "kind of" so often? It's really aggravating. Otherwise, good video.
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Engineers call them "weasel words"
kinda, should, maybe, I think, mostly
I have a 2017 Outback. The lane assist is so loud it drives me crazy-is there a way to turn it down without turning it off?
Unfortunately no its either on or off