How These ADC Changes Are Going to Affect You
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Doublelift reacts to Vandiril's Mid-Season Patch Preview. Huge changes are coming to the ADC (Marksman) role, what are your guys' thoughts on these changes?
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I think they buffed so many ADC items to make up for the loss of Lethal Tempo. It's the champs who can use those items and didn't use LT who are going to be bonkers.
they didnt, they changed them back to old items. Attack speed on certain items and AD on other instead of a weird mix on some. How it used to be lil bro.
Samira is about to become a monster.
@@eonarose yea, only downside is her build path is more expensive than any other adc.
new kraken on master yi, viego belveth seems pretty nuts, and Viego doesn't even care about LT
They did this cause Phreaks and adc main
ADC with enchanters are coming back lulu mains get your pixies ready
gay as f
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@@sdfg-gj9to no more lucian nami, corki will replace him
*permastuns you with leona* 😈
1:50 bro Draven doesnt give bleed since like 8 years
Wanna have bleed again?
It's gonna be same story as always, other champs are going to abuse the ADC items and then the items get nerfed again.
And if we enter an adc meta, ADC will get nerfed
I have a theory they murdered essence reaver (fav item rip) because it would have been a broken rush on new corki. New passive works on sheen and also gives him all the stats he wants for cheap (ad, haste, crit, mana).
Atm he needs to go trinity for spellblade (expensive) then go essence, then finally IE. If they kept og essence he could go essence into IE and solo carry on two item 50% crit spike.
Weren't there only a few champs who ever built it? They tend not to like items being that niche.
@@DarthRadical new essence reaver is even more niche
aphelios will be broken with essence reaver, his red Q will restore mana per hit
If an Aurelion with Blackfire Torch drops his upgraded ult in a teamfight, wouldn't he get like 50% extra AP for a few seconds? Depending on how many jungle camps are up...
yes
Yes, Swain in big teamfights in lanes might also be bonkers.
bro, if you're in river contesting dragon 5v5 and all camps are up that's 48% ap(52% if you include scuttle). The way I think it'll work though is 4% per champ + 4% if a camp is burning(no stacking).
@@Teknospacepotatothis sounds good on paper but then you realize ASol Shockwave can’t hit Large monsters. Even if you hit 5 champs and both Baron and Dragon, which is literally best case scenario since gromp, krugs, raptors etc. can’t be hit, you get 28% extra AP
It’s still a lot ofc but it’s not as much as you think
ASol ult shockwave doesn’t hit Large monsters, at best you’ll get 28% which is still really good
press the attack now buffs damage to all targets for the duration instead of just the one target you proc it on. This is an insane buff to the keystone. Infinity edge giving +15 dmg and +5% crit for 100g.
no one:
doublelift watching these patch notes: ITS SO BACK!! WERE BACK BABY!!
They buff ad items and now watch other lanes use them just for them to nerf items again
aphelios stocks gonna go crazy since he likes crit but doesen't need lethal tempo
They basically rolled back adc items to like season 8 or smth like that. All were missing is 6 IE on jhin
Did you make sure to run this by Dom before you posted?
Plz explain
@Andahar1687 doublelift posted a video reacting to caedrel msi tier list. TLDR Doubelift disrespected caedrel's takes and opinions and Dom posted a 20 min video showcasing the idiocy behind Doublelift's arguments.
@Vexiong
no way you are this stupid lol
@@ratzax1120Dom is legit the worst content creator in the league circles. Ironically the absolute worst player too. Trash player, trash takes. Anything dom says should be disregsrded
cut down is still on pbe along w these changes so i dont think cut down will be removed for live
What would be the new twitch and nilah build ?
Are we back to the zeal into ie rush on adc again
we're so back baby
The reign of adc is back my dudes
Just give ER some AD back please. It used to be such a stat stick and this new change feels kind of pitiful.
this somewha gives me season 3 adc vibes with the big bloodthirster to pd
riot tried they're best to send briar 10 feet under but now with these changes, seems like the Kamikaze briar build will become official soon...
Phreak is now a FREAK
I mean as an Jhin otp Im still not sure about the LDR changes since it really helpd me with mundo or siond with the passive yet I guess with only 4 crit items I can get a 5th utility item and get some kinda advantage not sure
also mid video I realized my boy is actually back at top since now my crit % gonna be split in my shots. I remmeber the days %25 crit giving me 2 movement speed buffs in one reload
A fun build to try with Lucian might be rush Yun Wildarrows into IE into Wits End.
50% crit with the crit bleed passive and Lucian double tap passive sounds like a crazy 2 item spike, then he gets the attack speed, MS, AH, and on hit of Wits next and starts dealing lots of hybrid damage with a bleed on top of it.
none of those items provide ability haste. If you want on hit on lucian surely kraken or bork is the better option than wits which has no AD at all on it
Bleed doesn't stack.
@@jmoak14 sure. But it gives the attack speed and movement speed that Lucian wants. And gives him defensive stats that he needs as a close range marksman. It's better than Kraken which no longer gives crit and takes 3 autos to proc, and Bork which gives no survivability and also takes 3 hits to proc.
@@ASSASSIN79100 yes it does. With every crit
@@ASSASSIN79100 it does with every crit, foggedftw did a trynda game with it on PBE, its insane
3:46 does this mean you could attack minions after three autos with pta and never “leave combat” or does this only mean enemy champions because this wording as is doesn’t give enough information
Im pretty sure combat has always meant fighting against champions, I don’t know anyone besides you who thinks otherwise.
On the pbe, you need to hit champs 3 times to proc it. Hitting minions after its proced counts as "combat." So you can hit your enemy in lane 3 times and just hit a minions every few seconds, and PTA will stay active. There is a buff on your champ to show if it's still proced. The rune is busted and will be nerfed. There's no reason to take any other rune on adc.
As a mid/adc player, i'm soooooooo hype. Esp for the new burn item for brand, malz, zyra and asol. New adc items look fucking awesome, they'll feel worth building
We are so back🗣️
1stly Mr. Lift, correcting you at 1633 Kracken was never for jinx, IT WAS FOR VAYNE!
rest in peace gp
Why would you say that? From what I can tell he'll be way stronger now because crit items are back.
Jack of All Trades will be really good for Jax 🔥
Yeah you could sell boots endgame for PD but here comes ZEPHYR!!!
Phreak goes on to elaborate on the ADC changes, and there is one really cool design I personally love. They decided they WANT the ADC items to be awkward, and no perfect item to exists as they will always be missing something. This awkwardness forces players to make more interesting and harder decisions, which is probably good for long term build diversity and item health. RIP smolder, sheen ER was holding him at 50% wr now he's probably going full Lichbane and 2 burn items to have a scaling sheen.
so, is fine for every other role to have THE item for them?
@@ignacioperez5479 what role
i think thisll make the game alor funner again
He didn’t mention that ninja tabi got a big nerf
Wait what, Rapid and runans are 2.6k?
Veigar built statikk for a while
As an akshan player this looks great 🤣
All zeal items losing ad means no adaptive force if you rush one and start Doran’s shield. Keep that in mind yasuo mains.
Time for doublelift to come out of retirement again and aim for worlds.
No joke adcs going to still take ghost and zoom around the map. Zeri with kraken ie pd zephyr will walk at a 470 ms permanently ghosted. Holy
I dont see why navori lost if your an ie build. Xayah can go IE, NAvori and will be amazing. Lucian has so many pivots there will be a build for him because his support is what makes him nami,milio, braum. Go to old lucian build Bork, Black cleaver, BT lol.
Essence reaver gutted rip sheen proc weaving skill expression
Giving bruiser items a bunch of ability haste, not like we haven't seen this go tragically bad before... Does the RIOT balance team just completely memory wipe after every season?
Irelia is back with the BoTRK change…
I love that everyone that doesn’t play adc is dooming like crazy. Meanwhile every adc player besides Lucian mains is having a party.
As a support this is gonna suck ass
vayne is sooo back
7:42 ayoo if thats leena in the background are we getting a Lift JR????
what an insane thing to think about a woman for no other reason than you think they look bigger lmao
@@Leahs_Dad She is in her 30s, so not really an insane thing to think
@@Leahs_Dad You can be as white knight as you want, we all know theres a visual difference between pregnant big and fat big
Not having lethal tempo and cutdown for tanks is really gonna hurt man
Think it’ll be fine, LDR is buffed, tabis are nerfed, and randiuns doesn’t have rock solid passive any more.
@@keagan53795% more pen for giant slayer is worse against tank tho
honestly I'm happy that lethal tempo is gone, yasuo, yone and trundle players can't just sit on you and auto you down to death. Now they have to play the game as intended
if they gonna bring crit adcs back might aswell bring old bloodline lifesteal when it used to give 12% lifesteal
if its stacks faster fine but otgerwise its useless
@@wall-e5869 it used to be fully stacked by 20 minutes in average games.. but if you are fed and and farmed well it used to be fully stacked by 15 mins
@@joudaasad8841 oh forgot about it. I think they removed it to balance lifesteal stacking(?) idk is it good or bad time will show
BT Graves here we go!
with all these very good adc item change i thought Doublelift should consider returning to LCS xdd
yeey cant wait for a cait to oneshot me from 800 range with sixth hit :)
Ad carry is so back -DLift
Yone yasou player - 😂 we are back baby even we are 0/15 😂
They're losing LT though. Which they were locked to more than most ADCs.
@@DarthRadical with full crit and movements speed yone nd yasou is super strong
Yi trynda too much in this ADC UPDATE
@@DarthRadical they can just go conq, it was good on them anyways
All fun in games until you are playing against, graves, kindred, viego, yi etc jungle all building crit items
YEAAH BOII CRIT VIEGO IS BACK
Phreak has finally recognized that ADCs deserve the be the late game carry they used to be and other roles can get the fuck over it
"other roles can get the fuck over it" bro been holding this in for a minute 💀
Bro is so mad
Right until other champs abuse the items and they get nerfed to the abyss as usual.... Looking at Yasuo, Yone and Tryna mainly...
@@nickfox5321Tbh I'm fine with the wind bros and melee crit users being overtuned. The exceptions can be balanced for the standard to do well.
@@zaclittlejohn2701 I don't mind I in general either, but that's sadly never how it worked out in the past. Adcs have been strong in the beginning of the season and then their items get nerfed to oblivion without compensation. The ret of the season everybody just tells adcs to shut up and not complain
Phreak is not the only one on the balance team guys cmon, to buff or nerf a champ, item or runes is a huge work, you have test it, change things to work with habilities and interactions with 31293182 champs, if Phreak wants to make a change to buff something "for him" and breaks the game, it will be more work for him and the team because they will have to balance, peopla had jungle meta, mage meta, ardent's meta, the game is so popular and great because it is alwasys changing... if this will be an adc meta eventually it will end. Also the rengar 0/10 would still oneshot the adc anyway
the yun tal item i can see only be good at jhin
Wait ezreal is back
on hit over crit this season
definitely
Remember, When ADC go up in power, so does Tryndamere. Tryndamere also got his passive buffed to 50% from 40% at full rage. He is back to 2 crit items and can build life steal instead for 3 items. He will be a destructive force.
As a trist mid main im sad
WHy
@@qazweriopkoiljThey spread out items stats so now one item won’t give ad, attack speed and crit. So items like kraken aren’t such huge spikes anymore. Prob also navori changes
@@JaronPalone Bust tristana scales with crit so hard, and you're full build a 4 items so its not that bad
there is no longer any items that give ad, as, and crit
thank god
Blackfire seems a little broken. Teemo even more annoying.
Bork % hp damage is 33% less means tank meta rip playing any champ without tank busting. Rip Samira and probably not MF since raw AD numbers are way higher
Samira with Bloodthirster, Shieldbow and IE, damage and shield, shield shield shieeeeeeeld
Ive been playing league for over a decade and tbh the runes and the items have been extremely strong and snowbally for a while now, and this season i think they are a little to out of hand, maybe thats how riot wants it, but i never enjoyed when league was/is very snowbally, not a fan of how consistent it is for 1 person to take over a game; cause someone on the other team gives them a kill early.
maybe these changes will help in that regard as ADC was kinda trash for lower elo players this season, but idk im not a pro, not that fun tho rn to me at least, even when im winning i dont enjoy how i even surprise myself with just one shotting someone with half a combo when youre strong
lol it was 2
Phreak is finally BENCHED
Nah they can't ruin shiv like that. Delete Rapidfire
Lords doms -> IE, is by far the highest dmg build for any crit adc. Lords doms would be basically the same dmg 1st item as collector (if you take price into consideration)
really bad components for lane, probably just ie rush into zeal item into ldr third with bt 4th, very boring imo
@@cenkarson777 yeah thats true
just make marksman only items problem solved
Overlord's Bloodmail on Sett?
you mean sion right?
You mean Sion and Mundo right?
i like a lot of the changes except for the minion dema removed. they just focus on stopping proxying without giving any other way to win the game if you are in bad matchup in top
Im abit worried since adc dont have other rune choise other than Hob
Let's go, ap shaco main mohahhahahah boxes will last for a decade in the jungle just for insanely burst in lanes when it spawns mohahahahha
Phreak didnt make any of these changes though
of course. if he made them, it would be only nerf
Smolder nerfed again. Homie isnt a champ anymore 😂
ER, RF, IE, LD, BT is prolly a good build, he won’t be top tier but probably be in about the same place as he is now.
Nilah lost big time.
Maybe this is a dumb take, but to me it feels like the champs that get buffed from this are the ones that care about crit but not attack speed, or attack speed but not crit. Champs that want both attack speed and crit (I'm thinking Jinx, Zeri, maybe Tristana) are the losers.
gotta remember that all crit items are giving 25% now, zeal items are giving a shit ton of AS now, LT is removed so AS caps are a factor, and ADCs have access to T3 bezerkers.
You just go BF, Zeal, boots, finish IE and from there, they will be fine.
“Riot is cooking” said nobody ever what
quit before the vanguard malware patch. looks interesting tho
The IE is not gonna have more than 70dmg mark my words. It will be must have 2nd item on crit adc
what are you saying bro
@@Nhojjy_ THE IE IS NOT GONNA HAVE MORE THAN 70DMG MARK MY WORDS. IT WILL BE MUST HAVE 2ND ITEM ON CRIT ADC
@@crazy75able ah so ur saying it will be nerfed before it hits live patch, lets see might be BF ==> zeal ==> IE ==> finished zeal item again
@@Nhojjy_ Yes. Or we might get the good old BF sword -> zeal item -> IE -> lord doms. Or lord doms -> IE -> zeal item. Or lord doms -> zeal -> IE.
If the stats stay the same, lord doms seems like such a strong early game item (comparable to collector as 1st.).
SMOLDER has become an AP ADC lmao. Noone will be building AD smolder anymore.
Omg adc mains rejoice