You should start posting links to the parts you add to these trucks, that way those of us that want to do these upgrades can easily source them. Other than that, good video! These trucks are a TON of fun. Bought one for my 6 year old (yes he is young, but I got into hobby grade RC trucks at 8 with a TMAXX 3.3), and being my first ARMA product, I am definitely impressed.
Glad you enjoyed. I don't do links for two reasons for the first one is that I don't want to have to keep up with the links cuz they're always changing and the second and more important one is that I don't want people to think I'm trying to profit off these videos because that's not the purpose of the channel.
Yeah if it hadn't broken I could have done more. I was kind of building up to just holding the throttle down when I left the ramp but never quite got there.
@@DoRChello I wanted to copy this build but I was curious to what 4s battery did you use if you could send the link or just copy the name for what you used
@@jakechunasamy9642 I don't remember specifically I think it was some old FPV quad battery that I had. It probably was not the ideal one to use. I'd recommend just measuring the battery tray and then going on Amazon or something like that and picking one out that'll fit
Awesome upgrade video! I would've thought they were more upgrade ready and reliable out of the box for that price, it's kind of disappointing. Lots of good info as usual thanks and keep it up! 👍
Unfortunately not really. The stock drive train is fine for stock power and mild 2s brushless but you need to upgrade at least the differentials if you want to go further than that.
Such a great job with the upgrades. I agree that the 3s setup is perfect. Would you mind sharing a link or product information to the Mamba Micro Xtreme combo that you mentioned would fit better than the motor that you installed? Thanks very much. Really enjoy watching your videos.
I don't know for sure that the 1007 motor would fit but I've had other people say to try the combo with the 1007 motor at I think 6,700 KV. You should be able to find that combo on Amazon.
Yeah I didn't expect the stock tires to hold up as well as they did. I would probably go a little bit bigger but to be honest it's not really necessary there. They're good
I think you only had to upgrade the diffs and motor and esc. I'll be doing this on a budget in my next video. I'm going 3s motor swap. I remember you saying in the granite Grom video that the shocks were most likely not needed so it's interesting to see you upgrading them. Great video!
Honestly the only reason I upgraded them is because I pulled all those parts off the granite :-) I'm not sure if the outdrives are necessary to upgrade or not. I haven't run big power on the plastic ones.
goddamn!!! i've been able to control my compulsive upgrading in my older age but i have a tendancy to go balls to the walls on one car a year, the TG might be that car this year. i love this little nugget, ton of fun in stock form
The offroad running portion of this video was oddly reminiscent of the first runs of the Maxx Slash with all the bouncing and crashing. Looks like a fun little rig for smooth surfaces.
Yeah for sure. I was definitely running it on rougher surfaces than it needed to be but I feel like it's a little bit different than the slash. It's understandable for a little car like this to be bouncing around on bumps like that but not quite as acceptable on a giant car like the slash. Honestly I think this thing handles rough off-road better than the slash.
@@DoRC That was honestly my first thought when I saw a Maxx Slash run. "It bounces like a little 16th scale car'. I also agree with its excusable for a 2 pound car with less than an inch of suspension travel but not a 8th scale truck. But, both are pretty good on smooth flat surfaces and at least they're tough.
Great vid! Keep it up with the new places to bash. See you soon after I am home from Dallas, Texas. Watching the Sweet Sixteen. The only thing I am missing is an rc car to run out here. Any ideas on a good travel rc car? Batteries 🔋 will be an issue.
Batteries aren't really as volatile as some people think they are. As long as you don't get them too hot you can travel with them. Personally I think smaller is better when it comes to traveling.
I can tell you from personal experience that the diffs can’t handle 4 packs of factory power out of the box. 😡 lol love these quick videos man! Keep it up
I ran 2 pack thru it stock then put in the traxxas velinion system and ran probably 7 packs on 3s before anything broke i thought it was pretty impressive for plastic diff gears
Not true. I've had my granite grom for over a week now and have put probably 20 packs of the factor 2s through it and zero issues with the differentials. And I've abused the hell out of it; hard jumps, hard acceleration, driving through thick brush, getting sticks stuck in the drive train to lock up the diff, etc, and it's still going strong on stock diffs. I will however upgrade to all metal when the local hobby shop gets them in stock as I plan to go full brushless setup.
Probably not but if you take a look at my granite grom brushless video I have a budget set up in it that you should be able to get away with running 2S on without upgrading things.
I added a 16BL30 and 2435 Sl G3 6500KV motor to my grom and it's insane. It goes 45+ and can go even faster if I increase the timing and that's on 2s. It takes up no additional space and the only thing required for it is a 2mm shaft 18t losi pinion mod 0.5. Although id recommend getting a smaller pinion for more usable torque. I also cut the servo mounts off the stock 2 in 1 esc with a knife (yes I did that even though its sounds dumb) but it worked and allowed me to tuck the esc in nicely.
Just wondering since you reply a lot. I cut the connector off the stock 16bl30 so it was just the metal pins, and soldered those into an xt60 connector. It’s in there good and soldered. Do I need to bring it to bare wire or will it work the way I did it. If that makes sense lol.
@@DoRC looked similar to a tamaiya. Also now the LMT 2mm pinion seems wobbly on the 2mm HW shaft … I’m about to give up that’s what I was told to buy on the FB page lol.
@@G35Jeesh ok well as long as it's solidly soldered it should technically be fine. There isn't a ton of currently being passed though the more connections you have the more resistance. not sure about the pinion.
I literally just picked up my Typhon Grom yesterday and am already looking for more power and better suspension. Not sure I’ll go all the way to 4s but definitely 3s. Do you have a list of the parts you used in this build? Also great video by the way! Never seen your channel before but I’m subscribed now!
I would try the 6350kv 1007 motor from castle, can run up to 3s and is much shorter than the 1010. Run one with the micro x2 in my reflex 14mt and it goes even just on 2s (44mph on 2s).
Yeah for sure. I think the 10:07 motor would be more appropriate. Not only would you not have to hack up the chassis but it would also almost certainly be more than enough power.
@DoRC do you know if the 18t is the largest? I have a 21 right now from LC Racing. I swear this thing goes 50 on 2s but the pinion doesn't look the best. Part of me wants to try and design a 48p Slipper system for the groms. Would solve all the gearing issues. But im not settled on these diffs either these little things are overpriced without having a rebuild kit available.
Pretty much everything in the optional parts list on horizon's website and then a castle micro X2 ESC with 1010 motor though you have to modify the chassis to install the 1010 motor. You'll also need a hot racing 1/8 in pinion in the tooth count of your choice
I think I am going to try the exact setup but just curious what 3s battery are you running? This is a great vid and I have been wanting to upgrade a grom soooo badly.
Hot racing mod 0.5 1/8 in bore pinion and I don't even remember what battery I use. It was some old FPV quad battery that I had. Definitely not the ideal option.
Yeah Castle modified the X2 to have an internal BEC sometime last year. I don't remember exactly when. It is still possible to get the X2 without the internal BEC depending on how long were you get it from has had them stocked.
@@DoRC i know brotha! well, my diff is all ok cause my T-grom is completely stock but i got the brand new in box a spektrum 2 in 1 brush sistem combo and tomorrow i got the 2.0 losi pinion! so… will see how is going with stock diff
@@DoRC That's too high… ;) I now have a WLToys 124007 which is okay in proportions (w/ fpv just 120 mm high), just the wheelbase could be e bit longer (relative to it's width) and the build quality is very poor. So I'm looking for a small buggy w/ a long wheel base and a body large enough for at least 3000 maH 3S and space for the O3 air unit. I've got a 1/10 Lasernut which is a FPV banger (see my channel) but need a replacement for the WLToy - a car small enough to fit inside a daypack but in higher quality.
I don't have a parts list but tell me specifically what you're looking for and I can tell you where I got it. Most of the upgrades came straight from horizon though they don't seem to have a lot of stuff in stock lately.
@@REDLS7 ah. They don't officially say the shocks are compatible so you just need to get the ones that are listed for the granite. They work just fine though you probably want to swap the springs over as they're a bit shorter
whats the run time like on the 3s? both mine got the 93 diffs about a week into ownership, then blew out the cvs after that. then i tossed in the 380 brushed motor but even with the printed fan relocate its still getting beyond hot. If runtime goes up and the temps go down im gonna have to cave and go brushless. haha
Run time is one of those things that's kind of impossible to predict for someone else. There's quite a bit of room in that battery tray so you can fit a pretty big battery but it's also going to depend greatly on your driving style. If you're just puttering around hanging out with friends you could get twice as much runtime as if you're blasting up and down the street or running through thick grass.
@@DoRC Thats a fair point. Run time is what it is i suppose. So i guess im looking for ways to not make it run so hot. If brushless does that im on board. One thing that has been interesting to me is that on the thermal the back senter of the body cover is what gets the hottest. thinking heat must be coming from the rear end or something.
@mtnbike4522 absolutely. Brushless is far superior to brushed as far as heat generation is concerned. It is way more efficient. That being said it's also generally more powerful so you can run into a situation where you make up more efficient system that has more power going through it and ended up generating a bunch of heat. Ultimately though a decently specked brushless system is going to run cool in a car this small
I had turned my 3s typhon and 6s radix6 into monster truggies with the 2.8 mx28s and its alot of fun. Its a nice change up from a nimble buggy to a Muggy and fun to bash around. Cool upgrade project Do RC!!
Very cool build! Is really nice to see how easy it is to work, but the price of the full metal diffs and driveshaft is about 106 euro here in Holland, the car itself is 145 euro. Ouch. And then the motor upgrade... More ouch! Again, cool build, but it comes with a heavy price. I think you could buy a Kraton 4s for you have spend.
I would say that this is similar in quality to the LC racing though the LC racing will have the advantage of more features such as all steel gears and drivetrain etc. This has the advantage in ease of repair and upgrades.
I'm honestly not sure. Space is pretty limited under the body. The micro X2 is already very thin and I'm honestly not aware of an ESC that would be much if any thinner.
What pinion did you Use ? I bought a 1010 motor and can’t seem to find a pinion gear to save my life ? I bought the 4400 castle 1010 motor. Got a link or anything I’d really appreciate it !
They are Traxxas 7378. It depends on what you're trying to do. I'm not sure what their original purpose was but they really don't get much grip. It might be more controllable on 2S but honestly I think I would recommend trying something like 3S in fraction tires instead.
No they weren't out yet when this video was released. Those are the upgraded all metal differentials that unfortunately aren't available most of the time from horizon.
@@DoRC thanks! Just wanted to make sure those granite parts worked on the typhon. Btw, that thing is ridiculous fast and looks super fun now! Thanks for the help!
@benjamin3769 Yes. As far as I can tell everything for the granite will also work on the typhon. The typhon springs are a little bit shorter so if you get the shocks you might want to swap them over though that's just dependent on how much sag you want.
Hi I don't normally do links because I don't want people thinking I'm trying to sell them anything because I'm not and links are always changing. That being said most of the stuff is straight from Horizon in their optional parts area on the page for the car. The power system is a castle mamba micro x 2 with a 1010 4400 KV motor
One of these for me would be a project I’m aware there fragile diff wise but I’m still thinking of pre ordering the typhon . Also can I ask the shaft size in the typhon brushed motor please
Love the video!! For the CC combo what bore size is it? Is the OEM motor bore size the same as the castle? For the esc connectors did you go IC3? I plan on doing IC3 and just get regular battery’s and convert them to IC3 What do you think is that a good idea?
@@lilbeanboiiii Yes if you want to emulate this you'll need to get 1/8 bore mod 0.5 pinions. As far as I know only hot racing makes them. You can get them on eBay in several different sizes.
@@lilbeanboiiii it's possible that I do but in my admittedly limited search I couldn't find anything other than the hot racing ones. It seems like 1/8 in mod 5 is fairly uncommon
Wonder why they couldnt do mod 0,6 pinion which are plenty from tamiya. And that oddball spur gear. What possible fits is a 38T from a wltoys 959 with the drive shaft. Didnt try it, but looks the same.
@@Vel_178 Yeah unfortunately that one doesn't work but 32P and 0.8 do. The gears will be a little noisy sometimes but I've never actually had a problem with it.
Everything from the granite grom will fit the typhon Grom. The only difference in the parts that I used is that the Typhon Grom springs are a little bit shorter than the granite grom ones with the shocks are the same length
Initially I went with the adjustable one but after fighting the mesh adjustment for 20 minutes I just went back to the stock plastic one. I was using an 18 tooth pinion anyway so I figured I would just go with it. Seemed to work well though if you're using a different tooth pinion that's probably not going to work for you.
@@DoRC I’ve tried the stock 18 and I bought arrmas motor mount kid I’ve tried every size from 18-22 meshes fine before too cover goes on but after top cover is on it’s so tight you can’t move the tires, did you experience anything like that?
This is the video I was waiting for the longest!!! I really want to copy your set up! If I end up pulling the trigger i will still get the 1010 motor I wanna have an over kill lil beast too. I still don’t understand why you had to take the cover off the esc? Also would this work w a dumboRc receiver? 🔥🔥🔥
Yeah I didn't make it clear in the video. I removed the cover because it was contacting the body. The buggy body has a lot less clearance than the monster truck body.
@@Desauce512 in my admittedly limited experience it seems like the system is beefy enough to not need active cooling in this application but it was also 65° out when I was running it so that might not be the case at higher ambient temperatures.
Do you recommend getting an external BEC (I have no clue what that does btw) or just get the regular esc that comes internal with it? TIA :) or what should I go with?
@Desauce512 you definitely want to get the updated version that has the internal BEC if you can. The only reason that they included an external BEC was because the ESC didn't originally have an internal one. Having an external BEC, unless you need a bunch of extra power and are getting an external one for that reason, just adds weight wiring and complexity that you don't need to deal with.
I think you're not quite right about screwing on the shocks caps wlile having the shocks fully compressed. At least not for all shocks. In my experience membranes often get sucked in if you do so. Mostly screwing on shock-caps when shocks are half compressed works good for me
I don't normally do links because they're always changing and I don't want people to think I'm selling something. That being said all of the upgrades can be found on horizon's website they are straight horizon parts and you can get the ESC and motor on Amazon. Thanks for watching if you can't find anything specific let me know!
@@DoRC Was asking because I need the metal driveshaft kit for my grom it's been on backorder for months. Horizon Hobbies incompetence has been second to none. I talk to a lot of people in this hobby and not one of them is happy with HH.
@@DoRC Ya think ? I am so done with HH . They said that the metal axles were in stock a couple days for the Grom l ordered them and they never got shipped so I emailed them and they told me it was a mistake they are still on backorder. There costumer service and website stinks.
@@Schmidt3850 That sucks. I had a set of the upgraded differentials ordered from the very first day they had them on the website. I was able to order them on eBay from horizon get them delivered and my pre-order still hadn't shipped.
I don't normally do links because they are always changing and are frustrating to keep up with but if you go to the website for the car and go down to the optional parts button about halfway down it'll give you a list of all the parts
I had these laying around. I ordered the upgrades when they first became available after the granite release. They never sent them to me so I ordered another set on eBay a while ago and then they finally sent these to me as well.
@XtrmTJ97 That's definitely a concern with some vehicles. With this particular one I haven't really seen many people complain about the ring and pinions failing.
I had most of these on hand but unfortunately horizon seems to be out of most of these parts a lot of the time. They do seem to come in stock from time to time and sometimes they have them listed on eBay as well.
It was hitting the body. You could probably get away with out doing so but the body sitting right on top of the cover blocks air flow. I think as long as you secure the harness it shouldn't be a problem but no guarantees.
Hey friend! Can you please start adding links to all the parts you use in your videos? I really like your videos and want to upgrade my RCs the same way you show in the videos. Huge fan! You really should have more subscribers. Your videos are fun, helpful and entertaining. I recently purchased the Traxxas Slege, the newest one, and I've seen SO many videos being all OVER the place on upgrade parts. I'd really like to see a full on basher upgrade video for the sledge. Would you be interested in making a video on that?
I do have a full upgrade video on the sledge though it does have some things in it that aren't really necessary. I don't provide links for two reasons. The first one is that links are always going stale and it becomes a night where to manage them and the second one is that I don't want people to think I'm trying to sell them anything because I'm not.
@@DoRC I never thought about it that way, I just thought it'd be cool for the viewer (maybe it's just a me thing) to easily be able to replicate the results of the videos. Hope I didn't offend you.
I don't post links for two reasons for the first one is that it becomes a logistical nightmare keeping up with a bunch of broken links cuz they're always changing. Second and more importantly I don't want people to think I'm trying to make money off of any of this because I'm not.
It's possible but there's no inherent reason why they would. This is a completely different platform than a lot of the standard Amazon specials. They're really is no reason for there to be cross platform compatibility.
The sand us brutal. I live in long beach and the sand is so fine from so much traffic that it gets into everything. The clean up after means you've gotta strip it down fully. I stopped after the second sand run. Too much work in the end. Dirt and gravel are much easier to deal with. The sand is a lot of fun though dammit. 😂
Yeah pretty much everywhere I bash is sugar Sand at least to some degree and it always sucks when I have to clean or work on them but it is what it is :-)
I love your videos especially when your in the backyard ripping those rigs. Im too frugal to spend the 💰 on arrma or traxxas lol but my Remohobby 1631 rips on 3s 65+ mph
Do you have a link for that castle motor esc combo? I'm using the 40$ Amazon special king val 😂😂 I'd like to use this later down the raid on the vorteks or MOJAVE
You should start posting links to the parts you add to these trucks, that way those of us that want to do these upgrades can easily source them. Other than that, good video! These trucks are a TON of fun. Bought one for my 6 year old (yes he is young, but I got into hobby grade RC trucks at 8 with a TMAXX 3.3), and being my first ARMA product, I am definitely impressed.
Glad you enjoyed. I don't do links for two reasons for the first one is that I don't want to have to keep up with the links cuz they're always changing and the second and more important one is that I don't want people to think I'm trying to profit off these videos because that's not the purpose of the channel.
“Out with the old and in with the overpriced…I mean new!”😂😂😂😂
:)
Yeah that got me too lol
@@AnthonyBencomo Glad you've enjoyed!
Wow! You really did a great job on the upgrades. I think this setup on 3s is perfect. You created a monster. The little guy really rips.
Yeah it's definitely more spicy! Thanks for watching :-)
Man this thing's cool! i was impressed by the amount of backflips it did on big tires!
Yeah if it hadn't broken I could have done more. I was kind of building up to just holding the throttle down when I left the ramp but never quite got there.
@@DoRChello I wanted to copy this build but I was curious to what 4s battery did you use if you could send the link or just copy the name for what you used
@@jakechunasamy9642 I don't remember specifically I think it was some old FPV quad battery that I had. It probably was not the ideal one to use. I'd recommend just measuring the battery tray and then going on Amazon or something like that and picking one out that'll fit
Awesome upgrade video! I would've thought they were more upgrade ready and reliable out of the box for that price, it's kind of disappointing. Lots of good info as usual thanks and keep it up! 👍
Unfortunately not really. The stock drive train is fine for stock power and mild 2s brushless but you need to upgrade at least the differentials if you want to go further than that.
Great video! We love seeing our tech in action!
Glad you enjoy. It's a beast!
Such a great job with the upgrades. I agree that the 3s setup is perfect. Would you mind sharing a link or product information to the Mamba Micro Xtreme combo that you mentioned would fit better than the motor that you installed? Thanks very much. Really enjoy watching your videos.
I don't know for sure that the 1007 motor would fit but I've had other people say to try the combo with the 1007 motor at I think 6,700 KV. You should be able to find that combo on Amazon.
That was pretty insane 👀 Very impressed how it based with stock tires on 3s though 🤩
Yeah I didn't expect the stock tires to hold up as well as they did. I would probably go a little bit bigger but to be honest it's not really necessary there. They're good
I think you only had to upgrade the diffs and motor and esc. I'll be doing this on a budget in my next video. I'm going 3s motor swap. I remember you saying in the granite Grom video that the shocks were most likely not needed so it's interesting to see you upgrading them. Great video!
Honestly the only reason I upgraded them is because I pulled all those parts off the granite :-) I'm not sure if the outdrives are necessary to upgrade or not. I haven't run big power on the plastic ones.
COOL I like your channel!
@ReactionRC thanks!
@@DoRCyour welcome
@@ReactionRC :)
goddamn!!! i've been able to control my compulsive upgrading in my older age but i have a tendancy to go balls to the walls on one car a year, the TG might be that car this year. i love this little nugget, ton of fun in stock form
Do it Do it Do it.
Agreed!
Go for it it's a fun little car!
Nice presentation! Looks like a fun little dirt missile 🏎💨
Yeah it's really fun on 3S and basically uncontrollable on 4s
@@DoRCsounds about right lol
The offroad running portion of this video was oddly reminiscent of the first runs of the Maxx Slash with all the bouncing and crashing. Looks like a fun little rig for smooth surfaces.
Yeah for sure. I was definitely running it on rougher surfaces than it needed to be but I feel like it's a little bit different than the slash. It's understandable for a little car like this to be bouncing around on bumps like that but not quite as acceptable on a giant car like the slash. Honestly I think this thing handles rough off-road better than the slash.
@@DoRC That was honestly my first thought when I saw a Maxx Slash run. "It bounces like a little 16th scale car'. I also agree with its excusable for a 2 pound car with less than an inch of suspension travel but not a 8th scale truck. But, both are pretty good on smooth flat surfaces and at least they're tough.
@@boduke9428 Yeah the maxx platform definitely is tough.
Great vid! Keep it up with the new places to bash. See you soon after I am home from Dallas, Texas. Watching the Sweet Sixteen. The only thing I am missing is an rc car to run out here. Any ideas on a good travel rc car? Batteries 🔋 will be an issue.
Batteries aren't really as volatile as some people think they are. As long as you don't get them too hot you can travel with them. Personally I think smaller is better when it comes to traveling.
You always show some love for the community ❤️
And the community shows love back! Thanks for watching :-)
that free shock oil from corally is really helpful XD
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I can tell you from personal experience that the diffs can’t handle 4 packs of factory power out of the box. 😡 lol love these quick videos man! Keep it up
Yeah I don't know. I ran the granite grom on 2S brushless probably 20 packs before I upgraded differentials and didn't have a problem.
I ran 2 pack thru it stock then put in the traxxas velinion system and ran probably 7 packs on 3s before anything broke i thought it was pretty impressive for plastic diff gears
Not true. I've had my granite grom for over a week now and have put probably 20 packs of the factor 2s through it and zero issues with the differentials. And I've abused the hell out of it; hard jumps, hard acceleration, driving through thick brush, getting sticks stuck in the drive train to lock up the diff, etc, and it's still going strong on stock diffs. I will however upgrade to all metal when the local hobby shop gets them in stock as I plan to go full brushless setup.
@@EngineeringUSA Yeah I think most people's experiences are similar. As all you don't go crazy with the power the stock drivetrain is decent
@@EngineeringUSA that’s awesome to hear. Glad that people aren’t having the same experience as me. 👍🏼
This was so cooool! Do you think you’ll do another video with a smaller motor? I would love to see a build that would need less mods
Probably not but if you take a look at my granite grom brushless video I have a budget set up in it that you should be able to get away with running 2S on without upgrading things.
I added a 16BL30 and 2435 Sl G3 6500KV motor to my grom and it's insane. It goes 45+ and can go even faster if I increase the timing and that's on 2s. It takes up no additional space and the only thing required for it is a 2mm shaft 18t losi pinion mod 0.5. Although id recommend getting a smaller pinion for more usable torque. I also cut the servo mounts off the stock 2 in 1 esc with a knife (yes I did that even though its sounds dumb) but it worked and allowed me to tuck the esc in nicely.
Sounds like a sweet setup!
Amazing, have u checked already any mjx/hbx products and done some comparison/review?
Yeah I've done reviews on pretty much all of the little cars.
i was getting a serious chrisfix vybes from this video and thats not a bad thing! i think a 3s focused system on this little thing would slap
Yeah I've heard that quite a few times. I don't really hear it myself but I'll take it as a compliment for sure!
Finally have a typhon grom ordered. Cannot wait to upgrade.
Awesome you'll love it!
What’s the biggest battery you can run without upgrading the esc or motor I have one and want to run 3s but don’t want to upgrade anything else
The stock system is only to s compatible. If you want to run 3S you have to run a different ESC
Redpower XT 2700mah 2S. It's 1mm longer over the 1400 spectrum but thats a drop in for 2s.
Man that is fast. Great vid
Yeah and that was really only half throttle. It's got a lot left to give.
Hey I actually like the the upgrade. Awesome job👏👍👍👍👍
Thanks Glad you enjoyed :-)
Just wondering since you reply a lot. I cut the connector off the stock 16bl30 so it was just the metal pins, and soldered those into an xt60 connector. It’s in there good and soldered. Do I need to bring it to bare wire or will it work the way I did it. If that makes sense lol.
What connector was on there originally?
@@DoRC looked similar to a tamaiya. Also now the LMT 2mm pinion seems wobbly on the 2mm HW shaft … I’m about to give up that’s what I was told to buy on the FB page lol.
@@G35Jeesh ok well as long as it's solidly soldered it should technically be fine. There isn't a ton of currently being passed though the more connections you have the more resistance. not sure about the pinion.
I literally just picked up my Typhon Grom yesterday and am already looking for more power and better suspension. Not sure I’ll go all the way to 4s but definitely 3s. Do you have a list of the parts you used in this build? Also great video by the way! Never seen your channel before but I’m subscribed now!
Unfortunately no I don't. Is there anything specific you're looking for?
I would try the 6350kv 1007 motor from castle, can run up to 3s and is much shorter than the 1010. Run one with the micro x2 in my reflex 14mt and it goes even just on 2s (44mph on 2s).
Yeah for sure. I think the 10:07 motor would be more appropriate. Not only would you not have to hack up the chassis but it would also almost certainly be more than enough power.
I stuffed that 1007 into my grom and it's stupid. Had a hard time finding a pinion though where do u guys find .5mod 1/8 shaft pinions?
@calebworland967 hot racing makes them. You can get them on eBay
@DoRC do you know if the 18t is the largest? I have a 21 right now from LC Racing. I swear this thing goes 50 on 2s but the pinion doesn't look the best. Part of me wants to try and design a 48p Slipper system for the groms. Would solve all the gearing issues. But im not settled on these diffs either these little things are overpriced without having a rebuild kit available.
@@calebworland967 no I'm pretty sure they have larger ones.
Whats the parts number list of the upgrades? got my daughter a typhon grom and wanna upgrade it to.
Pretty much everything in the optional parts list on horizon's website and then a castle micro X2 ESC with 1010 motor though you have to modify the chassis to install the 1010 motor. You'll also need a hot racing 1/8 in pinion in the tooth count of your choice
You gave it the Zoomies package. It's like my dog when he get's excited. lol
Pretty much :-) thanks for watching!
What receiver would I need to use the stock radio?
I'm not certain but I believe the SR 215 and SR315 would work. You might want to check with horizon on that though
Ok thanks
Very fast on 4s good job :)
Yeah and that really was maybe half throttle. With the right tires location and driver I think this has 70 in it all day long.
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Great video! Did you forget to put the bearing on the front diff at 3:09 or am I missing something?
Good catch. Yes I did. I put them in before bashing though.
I think I am going to try the exact setup but just curious what 3s battery are you running? This is a great vid and I have been wanting to upgrade a grom soooo badly.
And what is the pinion called
Hot racing mod 0.5 1/8 in bore pinion and I don't even remember what battery I use. It was some old FPV quad battery that I had. Definitely not the ideal option.
Awesome build, was curious, I did a similar build and had to use an external bec with my micro castle combo, was yours different
Yeah Castle modified the X2 to have an internal BEC sometime last year. I don't remember exactly when. It is still possible to get the X2 without the internal BEC depending on how long were you get it from has had them stocked.
I bought it yesterday at the hobby store when I got the typhon grom and external bec came with it, it was the micro x2 with 1010,5600kv motor
@badmofreaker4205 Yeah it must have just been something they had in stock for a long time.
Maybe, I hope it's fast,waiting for a gear that's out for delivery. Do you have the part numbers for the upgraded shafts and diffs,etc
@badmofreaker4205 hop on the horizon site Go under the typing Grom and check under optional parts. They're all listed under there
where did you gets the hardened rear and front differentials ??
I got them from horizon though they're usually out of stock unfortunately.
@@DoRC 😣
@@lonewolf6169 Yeah I wish I had a better answer for you unfortunately horizon hasn't been great lately
@@DoRC i know brotha! well, my diff is all ok cause my T-grom is completely stock but i got the brand new in box a spektrum 2 in 1 brush sistem combo and tomorrow i got the 2.0 losi pinion! so… will see how is going with stock diff
Do you have a link for the steel cvd and red hex for the wheels?
I just ordered the new upgraded diffs! And typhon grom
Go to the horizon site for the groms and look under optional parts. They're all listed under there.
@@DoRC thank you.
Goes like crazy! 👍 It that car was just a bit taller… I need some more space to fit my FPV gear on. 🤷
The granite grom has more room under the body than the Typhon.
@@DoRC I'm more interested in a body that's a bit larger.
@@NUeB_RCFPV bit larger than even the granite grom?
@@DoRC That's too high… ;) I now have a WLToys 124007 which is okay in proportions (w/ fpv just 120 mm high), just the wheelbase could be e bit longer (relative to it's width) and the build quality is very poor. So I'm looking for a small buggy w/ a long wheel base and a body large enough for at least 3000 maH 3S and space for the O3 air unit.
I've got a 1/10 Lasernut which is a FPV banger (see my channel) but need a replacement for the WLToy - a car small enough to fit inside a daypack but in higher quality.
Great vid like always. Keep grinding bro
Thanks!
Can we get a parts list ? I'm trying to duplicate this build but I can't locate some of the upgrades.
I don't have a parts list but tell me specifically what you're looking for and I can tell you where I got it. Most of the upgrades came straight from horizon though they don't seem to have a lot of stuff in stock lately.
@DoRC where'd you get the shocks ? I see the drive train stuff is pulled from a granite but I can't find the shocks
@@REDLS7 ah. They don't officially say the shocks are compatible so you just need to get the ones that are listed for the granite. They work just fine though you probably want to swap the springs over as they're a bit shorter
Me and my daughter lover your overkill videos we live in Memphis TN Awesome!!!!!
Thanks I've got another one coming soon :-)
whats the run time like on the 3s? both mine got the 93 diffs about a week into ownership, then blew out the cvs after that. then i tossed in the 380 brushed motor but even with the printed fan relocate its still getting beyond hot. If runtime goes up and the temps go down im gonna have to cave and go brushless. haha
Run time is one of those things that's kind of impossible to predict for someone else. There's quite a bit of room in that battery tray so you can fit a pretty big battery but it's also going to depend greatly on your driving style. If you're just puttering around hanging out with friends you could get twice as much runtime as if you're blasting up and down the street or running through thick grass.
@@DoRC Thats a fair point. Run time is what it is i suppose. So i guess im looking for ways to not make it run so hot. If brushless does that im on board.
One thing that has been interesting to me is that on the thermal the back senter of the body cover is what gets the hottest. thinking heat must be coming from the rear end or something.
@mtnbike4522 absolutely. Brushless is far superior to brushed as far as heat generation is concerned. It is way more efficient. That being said it's also generally more powerful so you can run into a situation where you make up more efficient system that has more power going through it and ended up generating a bunch of heat. Ultimately though a decently specked brushless system is going to run cool in a car this small
What brand and size off-road tires did you add to it?
They are 2.2 trenchers
I had turned my 3s typhon and 6s radix6 into monster truggies with the 2.8 mx28s and its alot of fun. Its a nice change up from a nimble buggy to a Muggy and fun to bash around. Cool upgrade project Do RC!!
Monster buggies are one of my favorite RCs of all time! I've had a bunch of them :-)
Very cool build! Is really nice to see how easy it is to work, but the price of the full metal diffs and driveshaft is about 106 euro here in Holland, the car itself is 145 euro. Ouch.
And then the motor upgrade...
More ouch!
Again, cool build, but it comes with a heavy price. I think you could buy a Kraton 4s for you have spend.
Yeah the pricing in various countries really dictates which brands and models are going to be a good deal on which ones aren't.
Love this! How does this compare against the EMB buggy and/or EMB truggy?
I would say that this is similar in quality to the LC racing though the LC racing will have the advantage of more features such as all steel gears and drivetrain etc. This has the advantage in ease of repair and upgrades.
Where did u get the diff from I need some can u get me a link
I had them on hand. Unfortunately they seem to be out of stock everywhere
Love it. Don't want it but love it. Mine stay stock for fun
Nothing wrong with stock! Thanks for watching :-)
Nice I ordered mine today
Pretty fun platform!
What would be a good esc that i wouldn’t have to remove the top.
I'm honestly not sure. Space is pretty limited under the body. The micro X2 is already very thin and I'm honestly not aware of an ESC that would be much if any thinner.
What pinion gear did you use for the 3.2mm bore, Mod .5?
I used hot racing 1/8 bore pinions I got on eBay
@@DoRCbeen looking all over for pinions.
Blown 3 up and a spur so far. Wonder if you can drill a Arrma to a 5mm bore then sleeve it down?
@@Havingoneofthosedays- Not sure. What motor are you using?
@Havingoneofthosedays- thanks. Yeah check out the hot racing ones.
What pinion did you
Use ? I bought a 1010 motor and can’t seem to find a pinion gear to save my life ? I bought the 4400 castle 1010 motor. Got a link or anything I’d really appreciate it !
The only company I know that makes them is hot racing. You need a 1/8 in bore mod 0.5. You can get them on eBay
@@DoRC only seen smaller pinions available I found lc racing makes them !
@@jakesrcaddiction hot racing is everything up to 20t I think.
@@DoRC I could not find any just smaller teeth
@jakesrcaddiction7519 what tooth count are you looking for?
Where did you find the servo mount stl file ?
It's on thingiverse
Where did you get those goodyear tires👍, and would they do well with just 2s lipo? (If you tried on the granite grom or etc..)
They are Traxxas 7378. It depends on what you're trying to do. I'm not sure what their original purpose was but they really don't get much grip. It might be more controllable on 2S but honestly I think I would recommend trying something like 3S in fraction tires instead.
Are these the V2 diffs that you installed?
No they weren't out yet when this video was released. Those are the upgraded all metal differentials that unfortunately aren't available most of the time from horizon.
Where do you get your upgrades? Are they just from the Granite hop ups?
Yes all of the mechanical upgrades are directly from horizon. The electronics are castle.
@@DoRC thanks! Just wanted to make sure those granite parts worked on the typhon.
Btw, that thing is ridiculous fast and looks super fun now! Thanks for the help!
@benjamin3769 Yes. As far as I can tell everything for the granite will also work on the typhon. The typhon springs are a little bit shorter so if you get the shocks you might want to swap them over though that's just dependent on how much sag you want.
@@DoRC thanks!
Is there a link for the upgrades?
Hi I don't normally do links because I don't want people thinking I'm trying to sell them anything because I'm not and links are always changing. That being said most of the stuff is straight from Horizon in their optional parts area on the page for the car. The power system is a castle mamba micro x 2 with a 1010 4400 KV motor
Great vid. How good are those Arrma Metal shocks? The stock plastic ones are so leaky on my mojave grom.
I haven't had any problems with the metal ones but I also never had any problems with the plastic ones.
Did you have any rubbing issues with the bigger tires? I’m getting major rubbing on turning
Yeah that's kind of the nature of the beast with a buggy unfortunately.
One of these for me would be a project I’m aware there fragile diff wise but I’m still thinking of pre ordering the typhon . Also can I ask the shaft size in the typhon brushed motor please
The stock differentials aren't bad on stock power but if you're going to go brushless it's definitely worth upgrading them
I think Im gonna do a similiar build but with a TP power motor. Sick build !
I've still never used one of their motors. I need to try one out one of these days.
@@DoRC they make some crazy powerful motors
Hey very good video.. can you tell me where I can buy the metal differentials?
Horizon has them but they're often not in stock.
Love the video!! For the CC combo what bore size is it? Is the OEM motor bore size the same as the castle? For the esc connectors did you go IC3? I plan on doing IC3 and just get regular battery’s and convert them to IC3 What do you think is that a good idea?
The shaft is 1/8" which is different from the stock one. I went with XT60 though IC3 should be fine.
@@DoRC so for the pinion size what should I be looking for 1/8 size or what exactly?
@@lilbeanboiiii Yes if you want to emulate this you'll need to get 1/8 bore mod 0.5 pinions. As far as I know only hot racing makes them. You can get them on eBay in several different sizes.
@@DoRC interesting. So tekno and robinson racing don’t carry those type of pinion sizes?
@@lilbeanboiiii it's possible that I do but in my admittedly limited search I couldn't find anything other than the hot racing ones. It seems like 1/8 in mod 5 is fairly uncommon
Wonder why they couldnt do mod 0,6 pinion which are plenty from tamiya. And that oddball spur gear. What possible fits is a 38T from a wltoys 959 with the drive shaft. Didnt try it, but looks the same.
Well my 0.8 is basically 32p which is a pretty common gear size so that's likely why they went with it.
@@DoRC Mod 0.5 stock is just annoying enough too far from a 48 pitch. 48dp is 0.5288 mod
@@Vel_178 Yeah unfortunately that one doesn't work but 32P and 0.8 do. The gears will be a little noisy sometimes but I've never actually had a problem with it.
Where you get the parts, I see granite grom upgrades everywhere but no typhon grom. I broke a drive shaft and can't find parts
Everything from the granite grom will fit the typhon Grom. The only difference in the parts that I used is that the Typhon Grom springs are a little bit shorter than the granite grom ones with the shocks are the same length
Putting the 1007 in mine and having trouble with motor mounts did you use the stock pre set mesh mount or did you go with the adjustable one?
Initially I went with the adjustable one but after fighting the mesh adjustment for 20 minutes I just went back to the stock plastic one. I was using an 18 tooth pinion anyway so I figured I would just go with it. Seemed to work well though if you're using a different tooth pinion that's probably not going to work for you.
@@DoRC I’ve tried the stock 18 and I bought arrmas motor mount kid I’ve tried every size from 18-22 meshes fine before too cover goes on but after top cover is on it’s so tight you can’t move the tires, did you experience anything like that?
This is the video I was waiting for the longest!!! I really want to copy your set up! If I end up pulling the trigger i will still get the 1010 motor I wanna have an over kill lil beast too. I still don’t understand why you had to take the cover off the esc? Also would this work w a dumboRc receiver? 🔥🔥🔥
Yeah I didn't make it clear in the video. I removed the cover because it was contacting the body. The buggy body has a lot less clearance than the monster truck body.
@@DoRC oh okay I see now. No motor fan wouldn’t it need one just to keep the components nice and cool?
@@Desauce512 in my admittedly limited experience it seems like the system is beefy enough to not need active cooling in this application but it was also 65° out when I was running it so that might not be the case at higher ambient temperatures.
Do you recommend getting an external BEC (I have no clue what that does btw) or just get the regular esc that comes internal with it? TIA :) or what should I go with?
@Desauce512 you definitely want to get the updated version that has the internal BEC if you can. The only reason that they included an external BEC was because the ESC didn't originally have an internal one. Having an external BEC, unless you need a bunch of extra power and are getting an external one for that reason, just adds weight wiring and complexity that you don't need to deal with.
Yes officer it’s stock
And that window tint is 30% :-)
Great vid 🤛 but it would be nice if you had given the total spend on the overpri… new parts 😂
The first rule of upgrade club....
@@DoRC yeah yeah ….. honest dear , it was only a couple of quid (bucks) 🤞
Won it all in a raffle :-)
I think you're not quite right about screwing on the shocks caps wlile having the shocks fully compressed. At least not for all shocks. In my experience membranes often get sucked in if you do so. Mostly screwing on shock-caps when shocks are half compressed works good for me
Maybe though I've been doing it that way for over 20 years now and I've never had a problem with it.
The spur gear is 0.5 mod. Where did you find a pinion 0.5 mod with a 1/8th shaft? I'm assuming that castle motor has a 1/8th shaft?
Hot racing has a nice selection of them. They're the only ones I know of though
Thank you kindly!
@KevnRC You're welcome thanks for watching :-)
Were do you get the parts from no links
I don't normally do links because they're always changing and I don't want people to think I'm selling something. That being said all of the upgrades can be found on horizon's website they are straight horizon parts and you can get the ESC and motor on Amazon. Thanks for watching if you can't find anything specific let me know!
What is the pinion gear called I can’t find the one I need for that motor
Hot racing 1/8 in mod .5. They're the only ones I know that make them
Great video.What wheels and tyres are those?(the big ones)
They're the stock team associated 14MT tires. Thanks for watching!
@@DoRC thanks mate👍
@@martindalton2101 You're welcome. Make sure you check out my video coming out today. Got a pretty interesting giveaway in it!
@@DoRC will do mate
Are all the upgrade parts the same as the Grom for the Typhon?
As far as I can tell yes. The only difference I found is that the springs on the Typhon are a little bit shorter.
@@DoRC Was asking because I need the metal driveshaft kit for my grom it's been on backorder for months. Horizon Hobbies incompetence has been second to none. I talk to a lot of people in this hobby and not one of them is happy with HH.
@@Schmidt3850 Yeah ever since last July when they did a system upgrade they've been having a lot of problems.
@@DoRC Ya think ? I am so done with HH . They said that the metal axles were in stock a couple days for the Grom l ordered them and they never got shipped so I emailed them and they told me it was a mistake they are still on backorder. There costumer service and website stinks.
@@Schmidt3850 That sucks. I had a set of the upgraded differentials ordered from the very first day they had them on the website. I was able to order them on eBay from horizon get them delivered and my pre-order still hadn't shipped.
Where did you get the cvds
Horizon.
Hey, You have a link to all those parts
I don't normally do links because they are always changing and are frustrating to keep up with but if you go to the website for the car and go down to the optional parts button about halfway down it'll give you a list of all the parts
nice video but how do you run without bearings? at minute 3.09 you put your diff without bearings...congratulations you're really strong 💪
I didn't. I noticed it before running and went back and fixed it :-) Good eye though!
Where did you get the diffs?
I had these laying around. I ordered the upgrades when they first became available after the granite release. They never sent them to me so I ordered another set on eBay a while ago and then they finally sent these to me as well.
what pinion gears did you buy for this
Hot racing mod 0.5 1/8-in bore. Other companies might make them but this was the only one I found. You can get them on eBay. Thanks for watching!
I think 4s is kinda overpowered, but I recon 6s would be even better
I mean at that point let's just go straight to a gas turbine :-)
Would you advise using metal diff covers or not?
I don't think it's necessary.
@DoRC Thank you, I was just concerned about the plastic chassis flexing and screwing up the diff meshing?
@XtrmTJ97 That's definitely a concern with some vehicles. With this particular one I haven't really seen many people complain about the ring and pinions failing.
@@DoRC thank you again
What tires did u put on it at the end?
They are the stock tires off of the team associated 14 MT
@@DoRC thanks dude
Where did you get your parts from I can’t get them from my usual source ?
I had most of these on hand but unfortunately horizon seems to be out of most of these parts a lot of the time. They do seem to come in stock from time to time and sometimes they have them listed on eBay as well.
@@DoRC that’s unfortunate
are the big tires the granite grom tires?
No these are off the team associated 14MT. They're quite a bit larger
Why did you have to take cover off esc ?
It was hitting the body. You could probably get away with out doing so but the body sitting right on top of the cover blocks air flow. I think as long as you secure the harness it shouldn't be a problem but no guarantees.
Hey friend! Can you please start adding links to all the parts you use in your videos? I really like your videos and want to upgrade my RCs the same way you show in the videos. Huge fan! You really should have more subscribers. Your videos are fun, helpful and entertaining. I recently purchased the Traxxas Slege, the newest one, and I've seen SO many videos being all OVER the place on upgrade parts. I'd really like to see a full on basher upgrade video for the sledge. Would you be interested in making a video on that?
I do have a full upgrade video on the sledge though it does have some things in it that aren't really necessary. I don't provide links for two reasons. The first one is that links are always going stale and it becomes a night where to manage them and the second one is that I don't want people to think I'm trying to sell them anything because I'm not.
@@DoRC I never thought about it that way, I just thought it'd be cool for the viewer (maybe it's just a me thing) to easily be able to replicate the results of the videos. Hope I didn't offend you.
@@DoRC ALSO! Thank you for replying. It shows you care about fan feedback! So, thank you for that! Much respect!
It would be useful if you posted the part numbers or the links.
I don't post links for two reasons for the first one is that it becomes a logistical nightmare keeping up with a bunch of broken links cuz they're always changing. Second and more importantly I don't want people to think I'm trying to make money off of any of this because I'm not.
what shocks do i get
Personally I would stick with the stock on this period they work fine
I'm tempted on these but the team associated mt just seems like too good a value to pass up. I'm surprised how slept on the MT release was.
Yeah that's a pretty good truck though not quite as easy to work on as the Grom.
As soon as I can find/purchase two new diffs that are in stock, I'll buy one, plenty on ebay for the current price.
Great video😊
Yeah the differentials have been hard to find apparently.
where did you get the pinion from?
It's hot racing. They're the only ones I know of that make them. I got it on eBay.
@@DoRC ahhh right that is expensive for me
20 euros in shipping
do mjx difs fit?
It's possible but there's no inherent reason why they would. This is a completely different platform than a lot of the standard Amazon specials. They're really is no reason for there to be cross platform compatibility.
@@DoRC thats treu might be worth to check out way cheeper
Yeah they definitely would be.
All the parts numbers please?
All the upgrades are straight from horizon. You can see it under optional parts for the car. The tires are stock tires off the team associated 14 MT.
The sand us brutal. I live in long beach and the sand is so fine from so much traffic that it gets into everything. The clean up after means you've gotta strip it down fully. I stopped after the second sand run. Too much work in the end. Dirt and gravel are much easier to deal with. The sand is a lot of fun though dammit. 😂
Yeah pretty much everywhere I bash is sugar Sand at least to some degree and it always sucks when I have to clean or work on them but it is what it is :-)
Good vid
Thanks!
I love your videos especially when your in the backyard ripping those rigs. Im too frugal to spend the 💰 on arrma or traxxas lol but my Remohobby 1631 rips on 3s 65+ mph
Thanks glad you enjoy! That's pretty fast for one of those :-)
Do you have a link for that castle motor esc combo? I'm using the 40$ Amazon special king val 😂😂 I'd like to use this later down the raid on the vorteks or MOJAVE
It's the castle micro X2 1010 4400 KV combo. There are a bunch of different places you can get them.
Ok awesome thank you
I love the new shocks where did you get them?
They are an upgrade straight from horizon.
@@DoRC same with the drive shafts. Thank you
I like mine stock. Just simple fun. The big ine can yeet all day
Stock is good!
Run in the yard while I BBQ and throw it in the backack. Nice work you went all out
That's what I like to do :-)