Shogun | Episode 3 | TV Reaction | First Time Watching | I Got Goosebumps!

Toranaga looks to escape Osaka with or without Blackthorne...preferably with in Episode 3 of Shogun (2024), "Tomorrow is Tomorrow" from FX. Here's our reaction to our first time watching.
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[@Xeorfhim]

HATAMOTO means Flag Bearer or Guardian of The banner, Highest title for someone who serving in Japanese feudal System. If Toranaga Go to war And Gain Victory, Hatamoto Would get Large portion of The land that was conquered, but if Toranaga Lost, he must commited seppuku, and his Hatamoto are expeted to do the same

[@wh_kers]

one of high position. definitely not the highest

[@Zseventyone]

24:00 - I don’t know about that. He just had him dive however many times.

[@illinfinite]

Hello! Glad you two are enjoying the show. But I think maybe you are missing how clever Toranaga is. The whole episode was basically setup to show how smart Toronaga is (expanding from the previous episode's assassin attempt). Yabushige wrote the will because he knew Toranaga would know of his betrayal, the escape from Osaka, resigning to cripple the council, and to pretend not knowing how to dive to tire out Anjin for the race to the shore.
Also Hatamoto is a title, not a name given to Blackthorne. Think of it as a high rank, close to Samurai.

[@ryanhauck70]

the intro gave me flashbacks to dialin up the wires

[@bani_niba]

Hatamoto = bannerman. e.g. A high-level vassal.

[@KaiOcean]

Teach me to dive! = Take a bath!

[@lithium23]

I took it more as, let me tire him out for our race.

[@KaiOcean]

@@lithium23 Could be; in the book Toranaga wasn’t about that. He actually desired a challenge and often lost to his guards in swimming races.

[@miekgg]

@@KaiOcean100% - toranaga always wants a challenge, for people not to suck up to him, or let him win in anything.

[@williambranch4283]

Lady's wooden sandals are better than bound feet ;-(

[@tavarisp452]

He didn’t rename him Hatimato. He was giving him a position as Hatimoto

[@Col_Fragg]

I think you mean Hatamoto.

[@tavarisp452]

@@Col_Fragg I wasn’t sure how to spell it and was too lazy to google or go to the scene with the subs. Thanks though

[@Col_Fragg]

I have the benefit of living in Japan.

[@martinbraun1211]

🖖🖖🏻🖖🏼🖖🏽🖖🏾🖖🏿

[@downunderrob]

The swimming scene is so different in the book. A fine sunny day. And everyone is Naked. EVERYONE.
So....i guess they didn't have the balls to out-cock Game of Thrones. 😂

[@thePouncingPurplePanther]

That's right. I was actually looking forward to seeing a certain actress in that scene! 🤣

[@franciscoguzman1034]

A wife in old India was cast into Her dead husband's funeral fire.

[@franciscoguzman1034]

The Boy is the dead Emperor's son.

[@MrFloppyHare]

No, he's the dead Taiko's son.
A Taiko was basically a Shogun. But he couldn't be a Shogun because he didn't come from a noble family.
Above, or, aside from the Shogun, who were the Samurai rulers during those times, the imperial family still existed. However, the Emperor only had a ceremonial function, basically. That's why the "Meiji Restoration", after the shogunate that was founded by Tokugawa (Toranaga), is called that: "Meiji" for the name of the Emperor and "restoration" because it was the restoration of the rule of the Emperors.

[@franciscoguzman1034]

@@MrFloppyHare I am talking about the young, slim-looking guy who in a kimono, the Emperor died, and His son is too young to deal with ambitious Samurai Lords, that is why before His death He appointed a regent to rule until He is of age. At this time, the Emperor had become a puppet of the Samurai lords. Kyoto was the original capital and home of the Emperors. Tokyo, became the city to keep the Emperor under the control of the Samurai Shogun.

[@downunderrob]

​@franciscoguzman1034 That is who he was talking about. The Council of Regents took over from the Taiko, to Rule in the Emperors Name. Until the Taikos son is old enough to take that title.
The man who died, Lord Nakamura, was a peasant. So legally, he could not become Shogun.
Only a Noble can hold that position.

[@MrFloppyHare]

@@franciscoguzman1034 You are mistaken. The Emperor or his family did not appear in the series. The old guy who died and had set up the system of the regents was the Taiko, not the Emperor.

[@MrFloppyHare]

I can't imagine not being able to swim.... We live on a planet that's covered in water that we can drown in for 70% of it.

[@i94yeh2p]

If you guys get a chance you really should watch the 1980's miniseries starring Richard Chamberlain. This FX version was good but, just like Dune, I feel the original is always a little better. 🙃 Shogun is my favorite book, James Clavell Is one of my favorite authors and I think Tai Pan might be the better novel by Clavell but whatever you do, don't watch the movie. 🥴👎😂

[@BIGxBOSSxx1]

Nah. This version is way better. The other one was negatively received in Japan. The original barely even focuses on the Japanese perspective, which is the most interesting part of the whole story.