Curious if you have feelings about the Camper as compared to the Penobscot? The Camper seems flatter (and maybe better for standing/polling), but I'm guessing the Penobscot is a bit more efficient paddling?
Right on girl, I live in the Arkansas Ozark, river ‘s kings and buffalo, meandering with pools, shoals and a few rapids. Most people these days go down in kayaks and are wet all day. Buffalo canoes, built for and named after the river are 16’ with wide mid bean, narrowing double ended with a nice high dry bow. Ripped the bow seat out years go, and run it sole carrying the family’s and friends gear like a mule. Never a problem , just me and my dog sunny. Nothing like and old boat, old green will be in my barn when I gone, with new skid plates for the next guy who likes to get away an understands a canoe can not be replaced by a kayak for tripping. Thanks for all the good info, the smiley that indicates the love of what you do!!!
Been running OT Tripper for nigh on pushing 30yr. Have barn full canoes & if I could only have one for rest my life The tripper would be the one- Very capable Pole, paddle,row & motor every once in while - Pack for week or month No matter- Thanks for video!
The old boats are best. I've had my Penobscot 17 since '89 and have done many, many miles in her. We've paddled, poled, lined, tracked, sailed and portaged her all around the UK. Solo or with a bunch of us fooling about, a great boat. It's the real deal in Royalex too, not the rebadged Disco. Took me over ten years before I found the right name, but she goes by Jus Chillin now. I really enjoy your short films, so, thanks again. Al
I like your videos as they show me a canoe culture that is interesting and very different than mine. My father who is presently 94 years old never owned a canoe over 14’ in length and always said that people who had big canoes were taking too much stuff with them. He spent most of his life as a Northern Ontario prospector.
My first canoe trip was in a Grumman. The 16 & 17 foot pole great. They are noisy and cold and stick on rocks rather than slide off and if one wraps in a rapid, it’s very hard to put back and paddle. But if rapid aren’t your thing. It’s a good canoe.
I just drove 6 hours one way to pick up a fairly used old Old Town Chipewyan renamed the Hunter, Its 14 feet long looks like a 14 foot Tripper, which I also have for the bigger rivers like the Machias. But this little 14 footer will be a Cawker for the little streams we have here in Washington county and more so when the water levels drop to stupid low levels. I could not agree more on the direction Old Town went in their decision on boat models and materials, I hound them every chance I get, to no avail. Should people bring their own canoe to the symposium? I would like to know more about this seam. and as I see the black flies are out how about some things to deal with them?
morning, wish i were in your world. i have missed so much. im a shepherd now in far northern calif... not sure how that happened. maybe its age..dry knees to you, k
Nice boats Lisa. I prefer the older Old Town boats to the new featherweights. They scare me. The first time I got in to one, I thought I was going to step right through it lol. I’ve only got my old Pack12 left but, I’m only doing flat water trips these days. *I finally have a Campers Cook All on its way to me! I’m very excited
Yet another great 3 minutes well spent with you Lisa.....and like you I love the older "Old Towns"...I too have the "Tripper", "Penobscot" and the "Pack"...love em all!!!
Hey, Lisa, Like everybody here, I love the videos. I saw your comments about the "seam". I really want to understand that. I spent Saturday here in Tennessee climbing a river with paddle and pole. Your tips have been a real help as I have no local teacher. A kayaker floating downstream told me I needed another paddler w/ me in my 16' canoe. I laughed, smiled, and said, "Nah, I got this 12' pole." Anyway, I'd love to hear more about the old school no spray skirt approach. That sounds like the club for me. Keep up the excellent work!
I will try to get video to demonstrate. Basically you are choosing the line to the left or right of the boat eating wave train running down the center. Once there is that much water in standing waves you can sneak down either side without getting sucked in…especially with a pole, one, because you can SEE it when standing and Two, because of the mechanical advantage of poling. Make no mistake you are not snubbing but using the pole as a paddle. As I always say, just because those boat eating wave trains are easy to see going right through the center, doesn’t mean you have to go there. The old school term for that seam, is THE FENCE. If that helps.
I would like to know more about the "seams/seems." 22 inches: Depends on the species of fish. Pike? It's a hammer handle. Brookie? WOW! Did you have to add the fish ruler because the removal of the seat gave the boat too much flex? Interesting thoughts on the 17 foot canoes. I thought class 3 was as high as you could safely go with a canoe. Do you go higher with a 17 footer and a pole? Thanks for the video,.
It was a 22 inch bass. Mouth bigger than a coffee cup. Now the seam look at the big curlers in the center of the wave train, see where the edges trail off, and meet the edge of the parallel edge of the next big curler of the wave train. Your looking across fro left to right not down the rapid. Where those 2 trialing edges meet is the seam. The smallest flattest waves across the set of waves from left to right.
@@Mainepolingguide That must have been a heavy fish. The "seam" might be a picture is worth a thousand words thing. I have a rapid in front of the house. I'll look at them with your description. However, when I am on the water I won't be looking side to side so it will be different! Thanks for taking the time to explain. Barring the unexpected, I will be listening the 27 at 7.
Yup, old school is best. I have 4 old canoes, and won’t part with any yet. I just made new seats on one, woven from strips of recycled motor oil containers cut with a bandsaw, and fastened underneath by air gun with 18ga crown staples. Comfy and tough as nails! Your videos are the best, keep on rocking.
Great video. I have an old Osagian aluminum canoe 17’ with a transom for a small motor. I live in Oklahoma and the rivers I travel are probably more docile than the ones you guide. I like that you name your canoe. I am going to think of one for mine. By the way I don’t use a motor for my canoe. I found it at a garage sale very cheap so I use what I have.
Hey just realized i saw you at Nine mile campsite wish we could have talked about canoeing... so much history on St John!
Justin, yes. We’re you with Scot’s group?
@@Mainepolingguide No we were two couples in the xl trippers
Yes, I remember wishing you guys a great St. John. Thanks for watching. We camped at Simmons Farm that night. Big storm eh.
I’ve been binge watching your channel. Tons of great information. I truly appreciate your knowledge sharing.
Welcome to 3 Minutes! Thanks for watching. Fair winds and full bellies.
@@3_Minutes_With_a_Maine_Guide Do you have a video about how to ride the seam?
Lisa,
Can you do a video where you point out the seam in standing waves?
Thanks.
Curious if you have feelings about the Camper as compared to the Penobscot? The Camper seems flatter (and maybe better for standing/polling), but I'm guessing the Penobscot is a bit more efficient paddling?
Right on girl, I live in the Arkansas Ozark, river ‘s kings and buffalo, meandering with pools, shoals and a few rapids. Most people these days go down in kayaks and are wet all day. Buffalo canoes, built for and named after the river are 16’ with wide mid bean, narrowing double ended with a nice high dry bow. Ripped the bow seat out years go, and run it sole carrying the family’s and friends gear like a mule. Never a problem , just me and my dog sunny. Nothing like and old boat, old green will be in my barn when I gone, with new skid plates for the next guy who likes to get away an understands a canoe can not be replaced by a kayak for tripping. Thanks for all the good info, the smiley that indicates the love of what you do!!!
Been running OT Tripper for nigh on pushing 30yr. Have barn full canoes & if I could only have one for rest my life The tripper would be the one- Very capable Pole, paddle,row & motor every once in while - Pack for week or month No matter- Thanks for video!
Thanks again for putting these videos out. Always enjoy them!
I just gotta ask…what is that I see hanging off the rear of your hat? Bug netting in a pouch is my best guess?
Lots of people ask that. Yes it’s a bug net. Thanks for watching.
I love your energy! Really enjoying your videos!
Thank you so much!!
The old boats are best. I've had my Penobscot 17 since '89 and have done many, many miles in her. We've paddled, poled, lined, tracked, sailed and portaged her all around the UK. Solo or with a bunch of us fooling about, a great boat. It's the real deal in Royalex too, not the rebadged Disco. Took me over ten years before I found the right name, but she goes by Jus Chillin now.
I really enjoy your short films, so, thanks again.
Al
Thanks Al, and thanks for watching.
I like your videos as they show me a canoe culture that is interesting and very different than mine. My father who is presently 94 years old never owned a canoe over 14’ in length and always said that people who had big canoes were taking too much stuff with them. He spent most of his life as a Northern Ontario prospector.
I bet he's got a load of stories. You should ask him about archiving them on TH-cam!
What are your thoughts on Grumman Canoes?
My first canoe trip was in a Grumman. The 16 & 17 foot pole great. They are noisy and cold and stick on rocks rather than slide off and if one wraps in a rapid, it’s very hard to put back and paddle. But if rapid aren’t your thing. It’s a good canoe.
@@3_Minutes_With_a_Maine_Guide Thanks for the reply! Good information!
I just drove 6 hours one way to pick up a fairly used old Old Town Chipewyan renamed the Hunter, Its 14 feet long looks like a 14 foot Tripper, which I also have for the bigger rivers like the Machias. But this little 14 footer will be a Cawker for the little streams we have here in Washington county and more so when the water levels drop to stupid low levels. I could not agree more on the direction Old Town went in their decision on boat models and materials, I hound them every chance I get, to no avail. Should people bring their own canoe to the symposium? I would like to know more about this seam. and as I see the black flies are out how about some things to deal with them?
morning, wish i were in your world. i have missed so much. im a shepherd now in far northern calif... not sure how that happened. maybe its age..dry knees to you, k
Show us the seam!
Yes. I am working on that. Check out Ray Goodwin’s channel on the Porcupine River on some of the big wave trains you can see him riding the seam.
Cawka in Polish mean little Coffee / or in Poland we call popular bird jackdaw
( KAWKA )
Great idea Lisa regarding moving the seat out for gear. Only a expert Maine guide would do that trick. Great video. Stay safe
Nice boats Lisa. I prefer the older Old Town boats to the new featherweights. They scare me. The first time I got in to one, I thought I was going to step right through it lol.
I’ve only got my old Pack12 left but, I’m only doing flat water trips these days.
*I finally have a Campers Cook All on its way to me! I’m very excited
Alan good to hear from you again. Good luck with the Campers Cookall you’re gonna love it. Use Pam the non stick spray as you are breaking it in. Lisa
Lisa
I understand the Grand Laker canoe length was designed to always ride on two wave crests and never dive in a trough. Sonny Sprauge told me
Yes that’s right they run between 18 and 24 feet.
Yet another great 3 minutes well spent with you Lisa.....and like you I love the older "Old Towns"...I too have the "Tripper", "Penobscot" and the "Pack"...love em all!!!
Jim, you’re in the club of loving all the Old Town Canoes that don’t make anymore. 🥲
@@Mainepolingguide YEP
I love your videos and think you should do a 30 minute Q and A with a Maine Guide!
Stay tuned for the live stream May 27 at 7 pm.
Hey, Lisa, Like everybody here, I love the videos. I saw your comments about the "seam". I really want to understand that. I spent Saturday here in Tennessee climbing a river with paddle and pole. Your tips have been a real help as I have no local teacher. A kayaker floating downstream told me I needed another paddler w/ me in my 16' canoe. I laughed, smiled, and said, "Nah, I got this 12' pole." Anyway, I'd love to hear more about the old school no spray skirt approach. That sounds like the club for me. Keep up the excellent work!
I will try to get video to demonstrate. Basically you are choosing the line to the left or right of the boat eating wave train running down the center. Once there is that much water in standing waves you can sneak down either side without getting sucked in…especially with a pole, one, because you can SEE it when standing and Two, because of the mechanical advantage of poling. Make no mistake you are not snubbing but using the pole as a paddle. As I always say, just because those boat eating wave trains are easy to see going right through the center, doesn’t mean you have to go there. The old school term for that seam, is THE FENCE. If that helps.
@@Mainepolingguide Very helpful description. Thank you! Keep up the great work. :)
Good show thanks
I would like to know more about the "seams/seems." 22 inches: Depends on the species of fish. Pike? It's a hammer handle. Brookie? WOW! Did you have to add the fish ruler because the removal of the seat gave the boat too much flex? Interesting thoughts on the 17 foot canoes. I thought class 3 was as high as you could safely go with a canoe. Do you go higher with a 17 footer and a pole? Thanks for the video,.
It was a 22 inch bass. Mouth bigger than a coffee cup. Now the seam look at the big curlers in the center of the wave train, see where the edges trail off, and meet the edge of the parallel edge of the next big curler of the wave train. Your looking across fro left to right not down the rapid. Where those 2 trialing edges meet is the seam. The smallest flattest waves across the set of waves from left to right.
@@Mainepolingguide That must have been a heavy fish. The "seam" might be a picture is worth a thousand words thing. I have a rapid in front of the house. I'll look at them with your description. However, when I am on the water I won't be looking side to side so it will be different! Thanks for taking the time to explain. Barring the unexpected, I will be listening the 27 at 7.
You’re right about the picture. I’ll make it a point to work on that.
Yup, old school is best. I have 4 old canoes, and won’t part with any yet. I just made new seats on one, woven from strips of recycled motor oil containers cut with a bandsaw, and fastened underneath by air gun with 18ga crown staples. Comfy and tough as nails! Your videos are the best, keep on rocking.
Great video. I have an old Osagian aluminum canoe 17’ with a transom for a small motor. I live in Oklahoma and the rivers I travel are probably more docile than the ones you guide. I like that you name your canoe. I am going to think of one for mine. By the way I don’t use a motor for my canoe. I found it at a garage sale very cheap so I use what I have.
Philip, that sounds great. Naming a boat adds to the character. Thanks for watching.