Yes, The President has to power to appoint whomever he wants and the Parlament also has the power to impeach him, remove him , reject his budget proposal and let the givern6of the day fall!!! The President is not naive!!!
@rastaweed1268 Both MK and EFF, specially MK will not protect Ramaphosa and if the comes out DA of this GNU that's already 45% of seats, remaining just 5.1% ... the same goes for government budgets throughout the 5 years term, if it gets that far!
@@MJG1017 oh no you forget what they all have in common, it's called give us and we will protect you. So we might even have DA members removed by votes
@@thomasbisschoff7136you keep saying this. Ramaphosa had 283 votes and Malema had 44. The DA has 87 seats. And a statement of intent doesn’t constitute a contract.
@@Molfie123 don't be too sure that a motion of no confidence in Ramaphosa may not succeed. Let's do the maths: MK+EFF+DA and a few ANC members (remember it is a secret ballot) and a few smaller parties and Ramaphosa is gone, a normal MP again.
MK wannt Cyril out specifically. DA and EEF would have been burnt thru bad deals with ANC GNU lead by Cyril the vote of no confidence is very real. Also Cyril is yet to purge ANC of Zuma loyalist.
But he signed an agreement with the DA before they supported his election as president. And he must comply with that agreement. A man's word us his honour!!!
The electorate gave this government a clear mandate. Representation in cabinet should be proportional to the vote. Anything else would be undermining the people's will.
The ANC don’t want to give up anything. Every ANC politician appointed as a MP, Minister, Deputy etc etc gives 10% of their Income to the ANC. The ANC already lost 70 seats in Parliament never mind all the ones they lost in the Provinces. Calculate that and see what the ANC’s reluctance is all about, greed
It's not difficult. The electorate gave this government a clear mandate. Representation in cabinet should be proportional to the vote. Anything else would be undermining the people's will. Cabinet should ultimately be made up of 3 parties. ANC, DA, IFP. NO ONE ELSE HAS ENOUGH OF THE VOTE TO DEMAND A POSITION.
@@lorrainehodge3693I understand that, but if far smaller parties get a ministry, they are getting far more than their proportion allows. In effect, not aligning with the will of the people. Each ministry equates to 3.3% proportionally. Hence, only the ANC, DA, and IFP should get leading ministerial roles. Everyone else in the GNU should be considered for deputy positions. It's quite simple. Anything else would not be fair and would undermine the will of the people. This should be the starting point.
Stakeholder management is a reality of life. Even in the most authoritarian regimes where the centre holds absolute power, they still exercise it with due consideration of other factors and stake holders.
The electorate gave this government a clear mandate. Representation in cabinet should be proportional to the vote. Anything else would be undermining the people's will.
The negotiations need to take place otherwise the whole thing collapses. Ramaphosa is not so stupid as to appoint people without consultation , particularly when we have multiple parties in government.
If far smaller parties get a ministry, they are getting more than their proportion allows. In effect, not aligning with the will of the people. Each ministry equates to 3.3% proportionally. Hence, only the ANC, DA, and IFP should get leading ministerial roles. Everyone else in the GNU should be considered for deputy positions. It's quite simple. Anything else would not be fair and would undermine the will of the people. This should be the starting point.
Then do not call for a GNU if you are not prepared to share cabinet positions proportionally. Technically, any party with less than 3% of the vote should not be considered for a cabinet position.
In terms of the constitution, the President has the right to appoint all cabinet ministers. If he goes against the GNU agreement made with another party, all that party can do is leave the GNU.
@@bevturner2258 that's pretty obvious. The question is, will he prioritise the people or his party. Don't call for a GNU, and not be prepared to share power and positions. The ANC has proven it's incapable of governing effectively. Give someone else a fair chance. The ANC wants their cake and to eat it too. Can't have it both ways.
@@LonelyTreeSunset That’s the million dollar question 😊 I think he’ll try and do both… He’ll prioritize his party and try and get away with offering less than 1/3 to DA. I doubt it will be proportional, that’s why this is taking so long. ANC deliberately invited all the smaller parties in to dilute the DA. ANC have forgotten about who voted them in and this will cost them down the line.
Parties also have the powers to pull out of the GNU, file a motion of no confidence against him, which forces the ANC to negotiate with the EFF and MK who will demand way more than the DA 😂
@youbrokeitwefixit1723 They must 1st prove themselves by running 1 municipality well before they can demand 1 of the most important portfolios. Can't even stick to the promise of building 1 school. It's easy to be humble when you're stuck in the cold on the outside. That will all change quickly when the negotiation power is in your hands.
@@swartkat4394DA pulling out would break the impasse & roll in the so called coalition of doom they claim to be afraid of. Only DA and their 21.8% see it as such, so who will be the biggest loser there? If Cyril Ramaphosa allows Helen Zille to dictate how he should use his powers, they are heading for some choppy waters. They did well rejecting MK trying to dictate the leadership composition of ANC.
Someone finally woke up. Yet we have failed to educate the ministers of Justice that their jobs included Costitutiinal Development. The understanding of Feelings, ie, the spirit in which people act, was never captured in our legal system. We need no help, we need to be honest and stop running the Country like a Business. PLB mixed with religious ideologies.❤7
If far smaller parties get a ministry, they are getting more than their proportion allows. In effect, not aligning with the will of the people. Each ministry equates to 3.3% proportionally. Hence, only the ANC, DA, and IFP should get leading ministerial roles. Everyone else in the GNU should be considered for deputy positions. It's quite simple. Anything else would not be fair and would undermine the will of the people. This should be the starting point.
Matamela is a people pleaser.. Lets hope he pleases the right people to build from the bottom up .. Sadly they are all mamenemene 😢... Hey Naledi ❤ kea u ananela- karolo e ntle ka ho fetisisa ea letsatsi la ka ke ho bona uena le Alicia Jali oa SABC .. le 'na kea mo sala morao 😔😬😂..
That would be true if there are no other options of going into coalition with the EFF and ATM, and obviously the rest of the crew would follow like the PA, PAC, UDM. So ypur statement is not entirely true.
@@mthokozisilanga4497 What you’re saying is that the other parties will be open to the ANC style corruption, because each one of them wants a Ministerial Position . Imagine the ANC say yes to that but no to the DA. State Capture Version 2 loading
@@runningman2989It is not about uneducated people, it is about people who promote their own objectives and what citizens want..... that is not relevant to them
The solution is simple though. Ramaphosa must resign. Paul Mashatile takes over. DA & FF leave the coalition (hopefully together with the IFP). EFF and MKP join the coalition. The business of the government continues, the programme to develop our country and its people begins.
You are naive to think that coalition will bring a better life for all. The ANC had full power for 30 years and could not achieve that. How is the ANC and its two offsprings going to achieve that?
You clearly fantasise about living in a failed state. MKP, EFF, and ANC would destroy this country in less than a year. Why not move to Zim or Venezuela instead?
Now this is a bold analyst who knows what she is talking about. Thank you madam.
ANC must wake up and smell the coffee they are not in charge
Its a cooperation
Stop talking Rubbish !!!
Ramaphosa must wake up....NOT the ANC !!!!!
watch the video.....
Domkop !!!
Why are they consulting the ANC when they want to join?
They can remove him even so
Power yes... But ability ... No
The president is beholden to the powers that made him president
That's what people aren't talking about 😂😂😂.
Yes, The President has to power to appoint whomever he wants and the Parlament also has the power to impeach him, remove him , reject his budget proposal and let the givern6of the day fall!!! The President is not naive!!!
Whos gona impeach him when the DA BACKSTABBED the other parties lol😂 John fxked up big time
@@rastaweed1268😂😂
@rastaweed1268 Both MK and EFF, specially MK will not protect Ramaphosa and if the comes out DA of this GNU that's already 45% of seats, remaining just 5.1% ... the same goes for government budgets throughout the 5 years term, if it gets that far!
@@MJG1017 oh no you forget what they all have in common, it's called give us and we will protect you. So we might even have DA members removed by votes
The DA should walk away from this mess immediately
How can a President who did not get a majority, unilaterally, choose all members in his cabinet?
Because the constitution says that the president can choose all his cabinet ministers. He was voted in as president by a huge majority - 283 votes
Constitution😊
Are you always this snail slow in thinking?
The South African constitution gives Cyril Ramaphosa the legal rights to pick his ministers and deputy ministers. In my opinion, that's a good thing.
Read the Constitution !
Or ask the people who voted him in as President....he did not Automatically became President !!!!
It is clearly defined in the constitution no matter who gave him voted that Rams will appoint his cabinet whether you like it or not
No, no that is not how coalitions work. The agreement must be honoured. Ramaphosa had to rely on the DA to be elected president, remember!
@@thomasbisschoff7136you keep saying this. Ramaphosa had 283 votes and Malema had 44. The DA has 87 seats. And a statement of intent doesn’t constitute a contract.
@@Molfie123 don't be too sure that a motion of no confidence in Ramaphosa may not succeed. Let's do the maths: MK+EFF+DA and a few ANC members (remember it is a secret ballot) and a few smaller parties and Ramaphosa is gone, a normal MP again.
MK wannt Cyril out specifically. DA and EEF would have been burnt thru bad deals with ANC GNU lead by Cyril the vote of no confidence is very real. Also Cyril is yet to purge ANC of Zuma loyalist.
@@thomasbisschoff7136throwing our toys out of the cot eyy?😂
But he signed an agreement with the DA before they supported his election as president. And he must comply with that agreement. A man's word us his honour!!!
The electorate gave this government a clear mandate. Representation in cabinet should be proportional to the vote. Anything else would be undermining the people's will.
A letter of Intent is NOT an agreement ....
Except if you’re Ramaphosa, the spineless one
Clever, so all the deputy ministers and DGs running the show are still all Cadres
The ANC don’t want to give up anything. Every ANC politician appointed as a MP, Minister, Deputy etc etc gives 10% of their Income to the ANC. The ANC already lost 70 seats in Parliament never mind all the ones they lost in the Provinces. Calculate that and see what the ANC’s reluctance is all about, greed
Exactly
It's not difficult. The electorate gave this government a clear mandate. Representation in cabinet should be proportional to the vote. Anything else would be undermining the people's will.
Cabinet should ultimately be made up of 3 parties. ANC, DA, IFP. NO ONE ELSE HAS ENOUGH OF THE VOTE TO DEMAND A POSITION.
It is not only those 3 parties that earned seats.
@@lorrainehodge3693I understand that, but if far smaller parties get a ministry, they are getting far more than their proportion allows. In effect, not aligning with the will of the people. Each ministry equates to 3.3% proportionally. Hence, only the ANC, DA, and IFP should get leading ministerial roles. Everyone else in the GNU should be considered for deputy positions. It's quite simple. Anything else would not be fair and would undermine the will of the people. This should be the starting point.
@@lorrainehodge3693seats alone is irrelevant. How many is more important.
Even the AlJamah mayor of JHB Kabelo Gwamanda had the powers to appoint his MEC but he knew that he didn't appoint himself as the mayor.
POWER to appoint is different from the FREEDOM to appoint.
Yoh 😂😂😂😂
Stakeholder management is a reality of life. Even in the most authoritarian regimes where the centre holds absolute power, they still exercise it with due consideration of other factors and stake holders.
The electorate gave this government a clear mandate. Representation in cabinet should be proportional to the vote. Anything else would be undermining the people's will.
The constitution says that?😂
Not fair that the DA are not offered key positions
They don’t want the DA to uncover the full extend of corruption and State Capture
The negotiations need to take place otherwise the whole thing collapses.
Ramaphosa is not so stupid as to appoint people without consultation , particularly when we have multiple parties in government.
He is a excellent negotiator
RAMAPHOSA knows about he is pretending..stenlenbosh already already instructed him
@@jacklenge531 Nice conspiracy theory based on fiction.
If far smaller parties get a ministry, they are getting more than their proportion allows. In effect, not aligning with the will of the people. Each ministry equates to 3.3% proportionally. Hence, only the ANC, DA, and IFP should get leading ministerial roles. Everyone else in the GNU should be considered for deputy positions. It's quite simple. Anything else would not be fair and would undermine the will of the people. This should be the starting point.
@@LonelyTreeSunset yes very true, even PA understand this when they said deputy in Homemade or police makes sense for them.
Ramaphosa will only announce this cabinet in 3 months
Once he's grown a pair ....
What else can you tell is ????
Dom Doos !!!
Then do not call for a GNU if you are not prepared to share cabinet positions proportionally. Technically, any party with less than 3% of the vote should not be considered for a cabinet position.
In terms of the constitution, the President has the right to appoint all cabinet ministers. If he goes against the GNU agreement made with another party, all that party can do is leave the GNU.
@@bevturner2258 that's pretty obvious. The question is, will he prioritise the people or his party. Don't call for a GNU, and not be prepared to share power and positions. The ANC has proven it's incapable of governing effectively. Give someone else a fair chance. The ANC wants their cake and to eat it too. Can't have it both ways.
@@bevturner2258furthermore, the president wouldn't have this decision to make without the DA.
@@LonelyTreeSunset
That’s the million dollar question 😊 I think he’ll try and do both… He’ll prioritize his party and try and get away with offering less than 1/3 to DA. I doubt it will be proportional, that’s why this is taking so long. ANC deliberately invited all the smaller parties in to dilute the DA. ANC have forgotten about who voted them in and this will cost them down the line.
@@LonelyTreeSunset
Yes, you’re right…
I hope the DA gets something they can live with
ANC and DA must accept that they don’t see eye to eye…Da please go back to your opposition role ..neeman.
The ANC has its own constitution with power to recall Ramaphosa. He can be removed from both the ANC and National Presidency.
Only when he has Majority
It's a lie that you chose to believe.
How can a cat and dog work together. They will fight and never agree unless they show humbleness to give and take. Eish.
That is the key to get to a solution....it is give and take No one alone has the say what must happen.... doesn't matter who the parties are
Parties also have the powers to pull out of the GNU, file a motion of no confidence against him, which forces the ANC to negotiate with the EFF and MK who will demand way more than the DA 😂
EFF only asked for one ministry, Finance (they want to cancel tenders and insource)
@@youbrokeitwefixit1723for now
@youbrokeitwefixit1723 They must 1st prove themselves by running 1 municipality well before they can demand 1 of the most important portfolios. Can't even stick to the promise of building 1 school. It's easy to be humble when you're stuck in the cold on the outside. That will all change quickly when the negotiation power is in your hands.
@@swartkat4394DA pulling out would break the impasse & roll in the so called coalition of doom they claim to be afraid of. Only DA and their 21.8% see it as such, so who will be the biggest loser there? If Cyril Ramaphosa allows Helen Zille to dictate how he should use his powers, they are heading for some choppy waters. They did well rejecting MK trying to dictate the leadership composition of ANC.
@@swartkat4394 you are just being typical and shallow in your attacks towards EFF
Discretion and common sense should prevail.
ANC should set Ramadollar aside
That it only way ..this man doesn't have a back bone
Kanti on what basis did DA vote with ANC for CR as Pres?
Genuinely thought all this was ironed out before Parliament's first sitting
Hellow fellow natives parties EFF and MK isn't it nice watching this movie unfolding though lol
DA occasionally and optionally respects the constitution only when it suits them....
Obviously!
Not unlike the "chosen people" as regards international law.
I think u are correct. Respect the constitution and the rules of law irrespective.
I see you don’t know how to spell ANC, the people have spoken and the ANC needs to toe the line.
Letters to the prisoners 0:59
Someone finally woke up. Yet we have failed to educate the ministers of Justice that their jobs included Costitutiinal Development. The understanding of Feelings, ie, the spirit in which people act, was never captured in our legal system. We need no help, we need to be honest and stop running the Country like a Business. PLB mixed with religious ideologies.❤7
Minority 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🍔🧅🥘🍲🥗🧡🎄🌶️🍖🍤🧅🍔🇿🇦🇿🇦 President 🇿🇦🎶🎶 experience is priceless Lives or black people nature cause effective
And that is the collapse of GNU
According to votes = seats
If far smaller parties get a ministry, they are getting more than their proportion allows. In effect, not aligning with the will of the people. Each ministry equates to 3.3% proportionally. Hence, only the ANC, DA, and IFP should get leading ministerial roles. Everyone else in the GNU should be considered for deputy positions. It's quite simple. Anything else would not be fair and would undermine the will of the people. This should be the starting point.
@@LonelyTreeSunsetStop making up your own White Domkop Rules !!!!
President 🇿🇦👣🗣️🎼🎵🎼🇿🇦🇿🇦 letters to the prisoners cabinet's law's
Today we didn't see Zondo sworn in the MK 😂lije we'very see to other parties .
Don’t know why they have to swear in any MP as they take oath to obey the Constitution. We know the MK party wants to destroy the Constitution.
The level of journalism in this country is absolutely pathetic. The 30% pass rate is now taking full effect. The media know absolutely diddly squat
Still napping on the sofa?
Complete power😂😂😂😂. The analyst is out of order🤣🤣🤣
Dictators have complete power
Matamela is a people pleaser.. Lets hope he pleases the right people to build from the bottom up .. Sadly they are all mamenemene 😢... Hey Naledi ❤ kea u ananela- karolo e ntle ka ho fetisisa ea letsatsi la ka ke ho bona uena le Alicia Jali oa SABC .. le 'na kea mo sala morao 😔😬😂..
contitution gives Ramaphosa powers but DA gIves him the votes to be president. Without DA votes, Ramaphosa is an ANC cadre,
Straight to the point.😂😂😂
That would be true if there are no other options of going into coalition with the EFF and ATM, and obviously the rest of the crew would follow like the PA, PAC, UDM. So ypur statement is not entirely true.
@@mthokozisilanga4497
What you’re saying is that the other parties will be open to the ANC style corruption, because each one of them wants a Ministerial Position . Imagine the ANC say yes to that but no to the DA. State Capture Version 2 loading
78 members of ccc is in jail and this kwerekwere worry about our politics
Supreme sign law's President 🇿🇦👣🗣️🖤 black minority majority or letters to the prisoners objective 9:07
The ANC were a circus before now they proving what a real circus is.
Apparently EFF or MK or both might be joining GNU. I guess no opposition besides action SA.lol
They don't even understand proportion. That's what they currently arguing about. This is what you get from appointing poorly educated people
@@runningman2989It is not about uneducated people, it is about people who promote their own objectives and what citizens want..... that is not relevant to them
Difficulties or religious beliefs wickets cabinet's 🇿🇦🖤🗣️👣🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦 law's President 🇿🇦 11:36
DA has all power to demand what they want let's him ignore , Ramaphoza will putted in motion of no confidence, and resion immediately
Wy wary we never had a gav
What is wrong with all of you. Cyril Ramaphosa works by the processes, everything in his head is a PROCESS.
I don't think Ramaphosa is even understanding what to do. He's going to take instructions from the DA
Hopefully.Make Competency Great Again.
There are a lot at stake
National
Provincial and
Going right to municipalities
@@angelabaxter6298
And they hopelessly performed in Gauteng but graciously the DA agreed to let Lesufi be the Premier, big mistaje
Experience is priceless 🇿🇦💋👣🗣️🥘💔❤️🇸🇦🍔🧅🧡🥗🍲🇬🇧 law's evidences wickets or letters to the prisoners
Uwadayisile onke lawo mandla akhe ukuze angaboshwa
Nobody is above the law. Not Mr Ramaposa or Mr Zuma
The solution is simple though. Ramaphosa must resign. Paul Mashatile takes over. DA & FF leave the coalition (hopefully together with the IFP). EFF and MKP join the coalition. The business of the government continues, the programme to develop our country and its people begins.
You are naive to think that coalition will bring a better life for all. The ANC had full power for 30 years and could not achieve that. How is the ANC and its two offsprings going to achieve that?
1ehat a cok of custard.!!!
You clearly fantasise about living in a failed state. MKP, EFF, and ANC would destroy this country in less than a year. Why not move to Zim or Venezuela instead?
So basically the ANC and its breakaways. Imagine that, you must be very happy with the sh!t show of the last 30 years
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 NOTHING CHANGE IN 5 YEARS 🎉🎉😂😂 DA WALK AWAY, WE WILL LEAVING RSA 🎉
😂😂,,,,,,,😂😂😂😂
What GNU?! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣