It depends where you are in the looks of things. Ramaphosa had an official report of inquiry still to be tested in the court of laws as Zizi Kodwa, then why Cosatu is not surprised he is in the high office in the land. Double standard is the answer!
NEVER EVER underestimate the AFRICAN NATIONAL CRIMINALS (ANC) when defending their criminals....when Zuma stole ANC women league G RAMAKGOPA. said their BUMS can be in all angles to protect HIM. It is SUPRISING to see all ANC thief's back in government.
They have learened nothing and changed nothing. The ANC is too rotten to change. Ramaputin (oops Ramaphosa) is useless, he is just another ANC functionarylining up to steal. He is worth 400 billion is it? All our money.
Cosatu is naive to claim that they are shocked for Mbalula,s sworn in . All of this called Trippatite Alliance partners are accomplaces i.e Cosatu , Sacp , Sanco e.t c are on payroll of C.R 17 bank Bosasa billions . Today nothing is being done by Cosatu & Friends regarding Workers rights . We still speaks of Labour Brokers after 30yrs of new despensation . In fact Leadership within Alliance are owners of most of them . Sacp of today i.e Nzimandes , Mapailas , Losies e.t.c are Diractors of number of Big Componies . Anc,s Leaders are dining with Ruperts and Oppenhemmers . 🤷♂️
Yes, how can they support the ANC? Anyone who supports the ANC is corrupt because they support corruption. I suspect the leaders of Cosatu are well rewarded by the ANC, they keep making statements about the ANC being corrupt, but come elections... theres Cosatu, the minute they actually stop voting for the corrupt ANC I will believe anything they say.
I wonder why COSATU fails to understand it's irrelevance in ANC decision making processes and thinking. ANC of Ramaphosa is selective and divisive. The step aside rule is applied selectively. ANC is dead.
Uh... never? The whole ANC should be ashamed, but instead Im sure behind the scenes they are trying to line up to steal more. Ramaphosa is just another thief.
Guys ... As a sensible human being ... that is your new COSATU of today ... what can they do to the ANC if not just to be shocked ... even chocked ... Their role as an alliance partner is now just to vote and get money ... as well as to just react and ignoring to what is happening in the house of the ANC ... like leave me alone ... Maybe the saying of the ANC of CR is somehow meaningful ... and reflections of note ...
@user-kj4hr7wd2o the only time one should be required to step aside is if one has been convicted. In some cases if they are unable to focus and do the job of the people, they should consider what’s best for the people. Understand, charges and a requirement to then step down, makes it too easy to get an opposing view out of the way. It makes it far too easy to get someone who isn’t liked out of the way.
Scandals? Corrupt? What if it’s an attack? What if it’s smearing? Who is the “society” that he is speaking of? A charge doesn’t mean that you’ve done something wrong. A charge is an allegation. A charge isn’t a conviction.
@cazola247 if that becomes the process, one’s opposition would just need to create a scandal, press for charges, regardless of how frivolous and then they would have that individual out of the way. A charge is not enough. A charge sometimes could be less about an impending prosecution, but instead an ongoing persecution.
Please sir this lip service criticism means nothing Cosatu will stand by the ANC until it dies as an organization. Pulling you through the gutter with it.this is only window dressing
Never underestimate the attacks of the propaganda machine. Never underestimate the lengths that the wicked will go. Never underestimate how low they will go. Smearing is their greatest tool of choice. Again, a charge, an allegation, isn’t a conviction. It can be a tool used by the opposition, by the haters, to eliminate someone whom they don’t support. Innocent until proven guilty. Proven guilty by a court of law. Not through a smear campaign. Not by talking heads.
You know - when you make statements like this - please show cause. What has Zizzi done that makes him stand out as a person of integrity. List 5 things that can change the accusations.
@cheznone9296 this isn’t about one’s integrity. This is about understanding that an allegation that leads to a charge is not a conviction. It’s not a prosecution, it could instead though be a means of persecution. No one should lose a position nor step aside because of a “Charge”.
@@geguieffawilliams I disagree. When a charge is laid, there has to be some form of evidence presented. It then is up to police to get proof that said accusation can be proved. If they can’t satisfy the court that proof doesn’t match up then case dismissed.. I think that’s procedurally fair. The step aside rule allows the incumbent to keep out of the investigation and still get paid with all perks until investigations are finished. I am truly aware of the propaganda involved in smearing people’s names. I think to step aside also gives the accused time to gather evidence to clear his name. BUT while a case is pending the position allocation should stand as pending and an urgent case brought forward for hearing. That way the people are satisfied. People = voters, who are sick to death of graft.finally if it was up to me - the Dr comes across as intelligent and someone who can gate keep. I hope he is innocent and assumes his role as a guide towards the betterment of this country.
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ANC shooting themselves in the foot.
Leopard can never change its spots.
It's over for the Anc
ANC lost their abilities and direction
Days after CR promised the country, he would eliminate corruption, and this happens. SHOCKING !!!!!!
Typical ANC and cadre deployment
Why is he treated differently vs ex Speaker of Parliament. He must step aside. How will anyone take the ANC seriously. Nothing changed imo
He clearly has something the ANC wat, perhaps he knows how to steal well?
Pathetic ANC morals.
Yes; Morals? ANC? how do those words ever go together? They are scum.
Mcebo Dlamini: "You can't defend the ANC and not look stupid"
Can just imagine how the world is laughing at the ANC.😂😂😂
Dont listen to what people say, watch what they do. It says a lot
Anc,,,,what step aside for
It depends where you are in the looks of things. Ramaphosa had an official report of inquiry still to be tested in the court of laws as Zizi Kodwa, then why Cosatu is not surprised he is in the high office in the land. Double standard is the answer!
NEVER EVER underestimate the AFRICAN NATIONAL CRIMINALS (ANC) when defending their criminals....when Zuma stole ANC women league G RAMAKGOPA. said their BUMS can be in all angles to protect HIM. It is SUPRISING to see all ANC thief's back in government.
Bums is about konofeita jam and some spice.
😂😂😂🤣
They have learened nothing and changed nothing. The ANC is too rotten to change. Ramaputin (oops Ramaphosa) is useless, he is just another ANC functionarylining up to steal. He is worth 400 billion is it? All our money.
I think step aside have serve it purpose, now they want to get rid of it but they are afraid to say😂
What does Zizi Kodwa think? Where are his morals?
😅 He started singing, and Rams had to act
Think? Morals? Ha ha. This is the ANC, they cannot think and they have no morals
Its really a shock that the anc is not challenging this, anc is stepping aside all those who against the president
Step aside rule is too deep and has eyes
Cosatu is naive to claim that they are shocked for Mbalula,s sworn in . All of this called Trippatite Alliance partners are accomplaces i.e Cosatu , Sacp , Sanco e.t c are on payroll of C.R 17 bank Bosasa billions . Today nothing is being done by Cosatu & Friends regarding Workers rights . We still speaks of Labour Brokers after 30yrs of new despensation . In fact Leadership within Alliance are owners of most of them . Sacp of today i.e Nzimandes , Mapailas , Losies e.t.c are Diractors of number of Big Componies . Anc,s Leaders are dining with Ruperts and Oppenhemmers . 🤷♂️
Cosatu a waste of time,they don't know what they stand for anymore
Same as the anc
Yes, how can they support the ANC? Anyone who supports the ANC is corrupt because they support corruption. I suspect the leaders of Cosatu are well rewarded by the ANC, they keep making statements about the ANC being corrupt, but come elections... theres Cosatu, the minute they actually stop voting for the corrupt ANC I will believe anything they say.
We all disgusted.
They all have skeletons, unfortunately.
He’s gonna be absent in parliament to attend his corruption case😂😂
Remember Zizi Kodwa exposed Ramaphosa, they were also scared that he might join MK
Cyril brought back a man who appeared in court for fraud. They brought him back cause he was spill dirt on Cyril
Probably yes.
The public also has a problem with the revolving door between the private sector and government.
I wonder why COSATU fails to understand it's irrelevance in ANC decision making processes and thinking. ANC of Ramaphosa is selective and divisive. The step aside rule is applied selectively. ANC is dead.
Are ANC members human enough, including their present?
Continue the same rot.. typical behaviour
When is Ramaphosa ever taking accountability?
Uh... never? The whole ANC should be ashamed, but instead Im sure behind the scenes they are trying to line up to steal more. Ramaphosa is just another thief.
NOTHING NEW 😂 ANC ALL OF THEM
Even Ramaphosa was supposed to resign
He must be removed immediately!
Being charged with a crime is not the same as being found guilty of a crime. Everyone deserves due process.
#PhalaPhala4eVa
#Nkandla4eVa
Guys ... As a sensible human being ... that is your new COSATU of today ... what can they do to the ANC if not just to be shocked ... even chocked ... Their role as an alliance partner is now just to vote and get money ... as well as to just react and ignoring to what is happening in the house of the ANC ... like leave me alone ...
Maybe the saying of the ANC of CR is somehow meaningful ... and reflections of note ...
Zizi kodwa he will be a president of south Africa and anc watch
So what they did to Ace was political witch hunt. Poor Anc double standards
The ANC & MK wing of the ANC recieved at least 55% of the vote.
This guy is representing his own COSATU. COSATU we know is tripartite to ANC.
Where are those Foundations which always make noise when it's people they don't like ?
Zizi like every human being can make mistakes,he is not the baddest.
Old cow does not change its colours
ANC & its policies that only applies to us but not them...
Tsotsis continue with criminality.
A charge isn’t a conviction!
Doublespeak.
Kungaphezu kwayo i COSATU kudala zenzekizinto ithule njengobikhuluma mhlampe kuzobangcono
A charge should not mean that an individual should be disqualified for MP.
Then when do step aside law applies??? Or it's only selective?? Make me understand
@user-kj4hr7wd2o the only time one should be required to step aside is if one has been convicted. In some cases if they are unable to focus and do the job of the people, they should consider what’s best for the people.
Understand, charges and a requirement to then step down, makes it too easy to get an opposing view out of the way. It makes it far too easy to get someone who isn’t liked out of the way.
Scandals? Corrupt?
What if it’s an attack?
What if it’s smearing?
Who is the “society” that he is speaking of?
A charge doesn’t mean that you’ve done something wrong. A charge is an allegation. A charge isn’t a conviction.
@geguieffawilliams True, but the person should step aside when charged, not only when convicted.
@cazola247 if that becomes the process, one’s opposition would just need to create a scandal, press for charges, regardless of how frivolous and then they would have that individual out of the way.
A charge is not enough. A charge sometimes could be less about an impending prosecution, but instead an ongoing persecution.
This kwerre kwerre ten to one supports the move
Crying shame
shame shame shame
A charge could possibly be politically motivated.
Owe, know ANC is a corrupt period.
The speed of the speech is so fast who can understand what they saying.
Please sir this lip service criticism means nothing Cosatu will stand by the ANC until it dies as an organization. Pulling you through the gutter with it.this is only window dressing
Exactly; pretending to care, while being paid by the ANC.
Innocent until proven guilty.
Were Zuma and Ace proven guilty when they were booted out due to step aside rule?
Never underestimate the attacks of the propaganda machine. Never underestimate the lengths that the wicked will go. Never underestimate how low they will go. Smearing is their greatest tool of choice.
Again, a charge, an allegation, isn’t a conviction.
It can be a tool used by the opposition, by the haters, to eliminate someone whom they don’t support.
Innocent until proven guilty. Proven guilty by a court of law. Not through a smear campaign. Not by talking heads.
You know - when you make statements like this - please show cause. What has Zizzi done that makes him stand out as a person of integrity. List 5 things that can change the accusations.
@cheznone9296 this isn’t about one’s integrity. This is about understanding that an allegation that leads to a charge is not a conviction. It’s not a prosecution, it could instead though be a means of persecution. No one should lose a position nor step aside because of a “Charge”.
@@geguieffawilliams I disagree. When a charge is laid, there has to be some form of evidence presented. It then is up to police to get proof that said accusation can be proved. If they can’t satisfy the court that proof doesn’t match up then case dismissed.. I think that’s procedurally fair. The step aside rule allows the incumbent to keep out of the investigation and still get paid with all perks until investigations are finished. I am truly aware of the propaganda involved in smearing people’s names. I think to step aside also gives the accused time to gather evidence to clear his name. BUT while a case is pending the position allocation should stand as pending and an urgent case brought forward for hearing. That way the people are satisfied. People = voters, who are sick to death of graft.finally if it was up to me - the Dr comes across as intelligent and someone who can gate keep. I hope he is innocent and assumes his role as a guide towards the betterment of this country.
Shocking disgraceful disgusting news
ppl our opinion always are not help full let as teacher our self not to comment negative we should teacher our self to lead by example not to oppose always is how we become studiottype forgeting yr self that you are leaders of tomorrow