Cathal Horan Friendships are not sturdy if you don't have enough in common - I think Daniel and Soren's friendship is plausible because of a strong shared interest in television and film critical analysis, especially if the friendship is limited to group interaction and analysis. We don't see them doing other activities together, so I can believe it.
I mean Chucky and Tommy are toddlers. They are friends because their parents are friends. There is literally no other way to make friends before kindergarten.
Also Tommy helps Chuckie be braver and doesn't go back to the zero point. Yeah it's a slow process, but you're building a T.V. show. It'd get boring fast if the wimpy scared kid became similar to his brave friend too quickly. I think that's a thing I liked about the series as a kid.
You're not wrong, but then the same question then needs to be brought up for Stu and Chaz. A mad inventor willing to fly a robotic pterodactyl off his roof; is not a logical long-term friend for a high-strung banker.
Wow, I grew up in a time when parent social groups were an organised thing. My baby sister had friends from that group, our parents only knew each other because their 3 year olds wanted to spend time together outside of the organised group. The parents became friends but that is how the families met.
Side note, I worked with a group of all married women at one point, and you've never heard a group of people talk about more nasty sex stuff more than all married women. You think you were "experimental" in collage, well imagine having sex with the same person from 20+ years, and think about the things you'll have tried at least once. A couple married for 20 years who has sex every two weeks, will have had sex 480 times, but based one one study, couples between 18-29 had sex about twice a week, which is 2240 in 20 years.. though the same study said couples 30-39, they had sex 86 times a year so it would really be more like, 1120 the first ten years then 860 times the next ten years, thus a total of 1980 times in 20 years. The real point is, the average married person has way more sex than almost any single person working the bar scene. Couples between 50-59, have sex more times in one year, than you did in all of high school and collage life combined... and you wonder why grandma and pop-pop don't have much energy, it's cause they're fucking so much! Perverts!
It took you longer to click reply and write that, than it should have for you too just real the comment. TLDR is for people who just read article titles, and not the article, but then feel they've been educated on the topic. For people who want to sound knowledgeable without becoming. Learning comes at a price, and part of that price is often utilizing ones literacy.
Vexa 12 TLDR: old people who have been married for a long time have fucked the shit out of each other, probably in the nastiest and kinkiest ways imaginable. Satisfied now?
and while bullies are absent Bart picks on Milhouse without restraint. except for the few episodes where Bart has to learn that Milhouses have feelings too ... so no way they'd be friends in real life, unless Milhouse sees abuse as a reward
The answer to 1 is always that their parents made them hang out as children, and they just kept up the friendship and/or they are neighbors. Also I have had friendships like that but not as exaggerated, which I expect movies and TV to be, at least a little.
Nofxthepirate And in highschool, at least in my experience, your friends are the people who laugh at your jokes/the person who sat next to you that one time
Yeah i have some close friends, that i dont really have that much in common with at all in terms of interests and values. But we grew up together and just really understand eachother well, so its a great friendship.
Zack and Screech was specifically explained in a flashback, Zack has always been that in charge, and he needed a minion when he entered elementary school. It was reused in all the Saved By the Bell clones, like Parker Louis Just Can't Lose.
Having various friendships with people I have little to nothing in common with I can tell you that they are real. Once two people have been together in a situation where they helped each other out on a regular basis, a bond grows. Then you focus on the few things you have in common movies, music, TV, or whatever. The best friendships aren't the ones you'll have the most fun with. They're the ones where you can trust the other person to be there when you need them. Yeah, I have more fun with some of my buddies, but if my car breaks down on the interstate at midnight in another state with no Uber, toe truck, or cab to be found, I know who come. And I'd go for them to, cause at the end of the day we've had each other's backs so long, not being there for them isn't even a question.
LogicBeforeNorms thank you. I thought this exactly. This week I met up with my good friends from High School as we were all in our home town for Christmas. We all have diverging personalities and interests but remain close due to childhood and family bonds. Our differences enrich our relationships not stifle them. Life would be boring if we surrounded ourselves by perfect clones of one another. I think that is the point this guy misses.
I don't know, Soren is kind of messed up. He's also nowhere near as cool as he thinks he is. Hanging out with the meek and nerdy Daniel and the dumb Michael gives him the perfect opportunity to feel cool, smart, handsome and just all over superior. And at the same time they clearly enjoy arguing about pop culture together. I'd rather question why Katie is hanging out with the other three but I wouldn't be surprised if she was there for the same reasons that I assume for Soren.
I think the Daniel, Michael dynamic from...pretty much everything but especially Agents of Cracked, would also be a good example. How could that one work?
sorvian25 That's what I always figured to. Like they met in elementary school or early on in junior high. You *do* tend to see friendships like that when people are younger more often.
Another version of the script had the whole plot of the movie was Ferris was trying to give Cameron a day to actually have fun because when he was younger he had a tightly wound friend who turned to drugs: Charlie Sheen.
It's kind of the same thing with the Rugrats. Those two have dads who are friends with each other, so they get together for play dates and things. Just by being around a person a bunch, they grow into friendship. Or don't, but not in these cases.
It's simple. Jocky and/or popular types gravitate to nerdy and/or nervous types for easy manipulation and fall guys. The vice-versa is that the nervous nerd craves popularity, validation, etcetera and gets it (however fake) in that relationship.
The Jock/Nerd friendship cliche is brought up in 21 Jump Street and explored deeper in 22 Jump Street. It's actually a clever, somewhat subtle theme throughout the whole film that some friendships are sturdy because of how different the people are, Yin and Yang; when two exactly similar people hang out there's no spark. I'd highly recommend both films to anyone reading, as funny and silly as they are, they are also incredibly well made films that actually carry a meaning or two. Also you sit next to Soren at the After Hours table soooooo.........
I love the Jump Street movies! You are totally correct about them. They dissect their own logic, but it never feels cheap and is consistently funny. (Dan/Soren fo life)
Friendships are not sturdy if you don't have enough in common. Think about all of your friendships and how similar or not you are - there will be some fundamental commonality that binds you. If not, then it's a shitty friendship filled with boredom and alienation.
Ferris and Cameron were friends because in an earlier draft of the script Ferris met a troubled guy and tried to help him but he didn't and the guy committed suicide and Ferris felt responsible and so that's why he hangs out with this equally troubled guy as sort of a pennance for that.
Me and some of my best friends for the past 10 years have next to nothing in common. All you really need is a similar sense of humor and to like the other person and I don't think the rest really matters. And the most explicable situation in Saved By the Bell is Screech sold weed, Zach bought weed from him and they started smoking together.
pianist150 Friendships are not sturdy if you don't have enough in common. Think about all of your friendships and how similar or not you are - there will be some fundamental commonality that binds you. I don't think it's just humour, that's not enough for a real friendship. There must be more in common than you recognise. Unless your friendships are so superficial and empty that you just tell a few jokes and then sit in silence? That might be enough for you if you have social difficulties.
Zack and Screech DOES make sense though. Screech just loves and idolises Zack and that's why he does whatever Zack tells him to do. No matter how crazy. And Zack keeps him around coz like I said...Screech literally does anything he's told....he is practically like his servant in a weird way. So why not keep him around
The 'Implausible Friendship' is actually very real. It is the basic concept that friends usually start off liking the same stuff, but as they grow, their families, their talents, and the fact they aren't the same person, causes them to develop diverging interests and personas. Zack and Screech give us a glint of this, because before Saved by the Bell, they were in Good Morning Miss Bliss, and we saw that Screech was the odd-man out, it was Zack and Mikey, with Screech as more the geek they used and felt pity for... when Mikey departed between the two series, Screech was still there, and he grew on Zack. Screech is loyal, he is Zack's best friend and Zack is Screech's best friend, and yet both have separate cliques that they interact with, Zack has the cool kids, Screech has the Nerds, in Saved by the Bell they introduced Jessie as Zack's True Best Friend, the literal Girl Next Door who is never interested in Zack and Zack is never interested in her (despite, in my opinion, her always being the hottest girl in the cast, by far). The essential Canon of the Series is that Jessie was in a private school for middle school, but has always been there, her, Mikey, and Zack, and Screech all live on the same Block, they grew up in the same neighborhood, they were friends because they watched the same shows, wanted the same toys, and played the same games, but as they aged, Mikey moved away, Jessie went to a different school and was a girl, Zack took after his dad, and Screech got weird. Their friendship is realistic, but it only works if you accept that they have been friends since they were small children, and it only starts to strain credulity when you get something like Screech and Slater, Nerd and Jock, only friends of friends, who somehow become really chummy despite having zip in common besides the same school and small handful of mutual friends.
@@junghunt8645 in some ways not an untruth, I was the nerd all through school, I was the outcast, and I was awkward. Differences come in that in middle school I outgrew my physical awkwardness and became athletic, and I never was a teacher's pet type. Ryan from High School Musical, with Harold Wormser (the original too smart for his age and society Nerd), and a bit of Jerry from Parker Lewis can't Lose would probably be a far more accurate description of me, but GMMB/SBtB Universe never had a character that would really fit reality, going more for cookie cutter stereotypes.
If I'm remembering right, the Hangover friendship between Brad Cooper and Ed Helms is that they are both friends with the groom (whoever that was) but not really friends with each other. That's a real thing.
Yeah the smartest guy in our class--good grades with no studying, well read just because he read so fast and absorbed information so easily, hot, athletic, etc etc and the accidental class clown--clumsy, socially awkward, poor grades... were and are best friends to this day. I don't pretend to understand, that's just facts.
My best friend is smokes pot, drinks, swears, and lives with his girlfriend (whom he describes their sex life on occasion). I'm a drug-free, wait-til-marriage virgin who never swears and doesn't even drink caffeinated beverages. We're best friends over our love of American Dad and video games. Could that be a movie?
Wow. I'd never heard that bit about why Ferris and Cameron are friends. I am glad they didn't put that in the movie. There's already enough about Ferris to make a popular interpretations that Ferris is a sociopath without them deciding that Ferris' best friendship is based on obligation.
5:08 - It's called a "Mastermind," when two people neatly complement one another by compensating for each other's flaws. One will be impulsive; one will be cautious. One will be sensitive; the other will be ruthless. One will be creative; the other will be conservative. When they're working together, they have basically zero flaws because their strengths cancel out each other's weaknesses.
I think it's more common for women to discuss their sex lives than for men. And the jock/nerd friendships are things that exist due to being childhood friends that just care about each other as they get older.
Sat next to an attractive young woman on the bus I saw her texting to one of her friends about the size of her current boyfriend's "cock" (luckily for him it was because it was on the large side). No way do I believe women don't discuss their sexual escapades with one another. The on-screen trope for this is woman saying in advance of a date that they will want 'all the details' later. I've seen this a million times; and I've also seen it said on-screen by male gays too i.e. it's a girl thing. As I explained in another post here the reasons why guys don't discuss the sex they have with other guys, there are reasons why women *would* do so with their female friends. For a start, women's menstrual cycles are known to synchronize and the biological purpose of this is so that they can ALL be ready if a potent stud comes along to pick the best of them. They don't know who he will pick but they will all want him to pick them (given that he's an Alpha male and especially strong and dominant etc.); and they also know that men come with a 'six shooter' and will be happy to 'spread the love' if he gets the chance. Those women will make sure he gets the chance if their friends' reports of him are good.
But people drift apart by go to different schools, making new friends, move to another place etc. I'm not friends with anyone I knew from junior school like it shows in movies and tv
To answer the final question about improbable friendships, I raise you the following: Screech/ Cameron thinks he can become cooler by associating with Zach/ Ferris, who in turn (despite their favorable looks and personality) have self-esteem issues, and enjoy the adoration.
That makes the most sense. Some of my opposite friendships growing up started when we had common interests, but as we grew older, we went in different directions.
I know that the "friends talking about sex" thing gets overplayed and almost always is associated with groups of men, but I have to say that the trope is somewhat accurate for groups of women. I don't know if it's dealing with strict masculinity/"no homo", but I definitely talked about explicit things with a few of my closest female friends.
ameliorated he was dating Rachel, Monica's friend and roommate, in fact, the episode was about how, since they started dating, he was over there all the time
As a man I will admit there's only 3 times I talk about sex. 1) When it was REAL crazy. 2) When it funny. 3) When the physics of how 2 other people did it baffle me.
The mean friends trope is stupid; and likely perpetuated by those who don't understand how to do it. Such as one time at my one job, a coworker and I had separate duties, but would cross paths as we worked. One of us would make a negative comment about the other, they would retort, we would go back and forth once or twice more, then stop. One day a new coworker tried to join in, but she seemed to think the joke was entirely about making fun of me; and did not understand the part about stopping; nor did she recognize the hints we both were dropping that essentially meant, "shut up." We worked at a very busy gas station, and made fun of each other as a means of relieving stress because we could not yell at the customers that got on our nerves; and even though the majority of people are no problem, it only takes one asshole to ruin your day.
You know it's funny, I have this gal pal, who swears up and down that she just "knows" that all men do is sit around talking about their sex lives. When in fact she has told me more than I ever wanted to hear about her sex partners over the past 15 years than any five male friends of mine, combined, have said in my entire life. The fact is if you are over the age of 10 you don't want to hear about what people are doing behind closed doors. And I sure as hell don't want to be put in the position where I'm sitting in a room next to someone's GF who I've been told likes taking it in the ass, or the guy who likes getting dressed up like a catholic school girl and getting whipped with a candy can stripped boa. Talk about awkward.
He clearly doesn't have any Man friends.... We talk about sex. A lot. Whether about with our women or with ones we wish we could. This dude is just weird.
I do both with my bestie. And we're both gals. We shit talk each other all the time. And sexy stuff isn't an excuse unusual conversation topic between us. I knew girls in secondary school that talked more about sex than we do (no guys though cause it was an all girls school.)
Jarl Ballin' theres a difference between roasting you and telling you what you need to know for your own good. A close friend is someone who you mostly have good times with, not someone who is mean because both of you are "close".
Man I must be completely living in a movie universe as I am in friendships with all types of people. In fact as I have gotten older and have worked different jobs I would say that I have ended up with friends that are complete opposites to me. I have always had friends from different walks of life. It makes life fun interesting and while yeah you have a couple of people you can only take in small dosages. It's the differences that makes a friendship interesting.
leprechaunluck24 I am the same way I have always kept my variety of friends very eclectic. From street walkers to Mormons to partiers to Comic-Con goers. Fat to skinny, tom boy to girly girl, gay to straight, crazy to depressed or extreamly happy. From 85 to 20's. I have never stuck to one group or click of people I imagine that being very closed minded and boring.
Well, this heavily depends on your definition of friend - is a coworker a friend? Is your best friend really a polar opposite of yourself? I know a lot of people that are different from me - some of them I see quite regularly. There are so many more shades of this: comrade, acquaintance, mentor, mate or brothers in spirit - but I wouldn’t classify those as friends. But I get what you’re saying.
Flo Ri yes actual friends who i hang out with and have been friends with for years. Not some coworker or some acquaintance. When i call someone my friend it holds its meaning. And yes my two best friends are complete opposite of me and eachother.
TV seems to think the totality of friendships is roasting, which is insane." Daniel clearly doesn't have black friends. We will meet up specifically to roast each other for hours and love it.
Ferris (who names their kid Ferris, anyway) hangs out with Cameron because he's rich and a pushover. Cameron hangs out with Ferris because he has no other friends.
Rowynne Crowley Ferris is derived from ferrous meaning iron, so a farrier (horse shoe maker/iron worker) a sanguanous person (someone with a ruddy complexion or red hair or who was a particularly blood thirsty) or some other link to iron would be the source of the name then the name would gain an association with strength (like iron) resulting in a noble and strong name that seems stupid, then chances are one of his parents heard it and liked it or, less likely, it was a family name, and even less likely they knew the origins of the name and wanted to distill such qualities in their child so he was thus named
Actually its not necessarily a shit name, but it is a unique name that if chose for the right reasons is a very good name, but yeah no, they probably didn't put any though into it so in that case yeah it is a shit name
I tend to feel fairly uncomfortable talking about sex with my male friends, but my female friends and I talk (more) explicitly about our sex lives way more frequently
Just because you dont talk to your friends about sex it doesn't mean friends don't talk about sex with other friends. Because you are opposite to a person personality doesn't mean you can't be friends with theme, there is always at least one thing people have in common. This list makes me cringe
30 years ago, people thought the internet was a passing fad. and people were doing coke, dancing, and fucking (all at the same time). what im trying to say is. fuck the 80s. they're hypocrites
Playfulpanthress whoa dude a bit mad much? I'm 22 I'd take being a 90s kid over being an 80s kid any day. all generations of human suck 80s is just a focal point. i wasn't going for accuracy i was making a point
"That 70's Show" was the worst violator. the way they all took such immense sadistic pleasure in eachothers misery all the time was just too over the top stupid
Well they also started off as friends from youth. The only thing really opposite about them was social class and looks and Corey wasn't ugly he just wasn't the obvious heart throb.
Normally me and my friends are polar opposites 😂 Normally our group attracts attention of how weird it looks to some people, as some of my friends dress in band uniforms, others all black, others always dress fashionable and others just plain normal. (On the outside look, but also personality wise). I think our friendship is based that we all hear and understand each other. They are better at things im not so offers me advice when I need it and i do the same for them. Diverse friendship, even if polar oposite, can be functional for some poeple as it opens them to a world they didn't knew with different experiences and exposure to different tastes which foments tolerance 😊
I like to hang out with people opposite of me I am shy and quiet and logical my friend is loud and crazy she helps me break out of my shell and I keep her from going to prison it works
Samantha Lytton my husband is decisive and knows how to make decisions on things I can never do (I stereotypically can never choose food), but when it comes to stuff I really can choose on, he lets me have sole say. I guess a good partnership is they are kinda opposite. They fill in the blanks, stuff you don't do, they do, stuff they don't do, you do. (Same with positive personality traits.)
I have to agree. My husband and I have been together for almost 10 years and we're polar opposites. He's a social butterfly, extrovert, witty. I'm a total introvert, hate crowds, and usually think things through methodically. It doesn't matter how much people are opposite of each other, if they really care about their relationship, they'll work past it to make it work :)
Yeah I don't really understand how he doesn't have a girlfriend. He sure has enough of a fan following. I also think he's the most attractive of the After Hours crew (sorry Sorin, I think Daniel's cuter).
I do want to say that I have seen polar opposite friends happen in two situations: they had one thing in common that they really like and can brought them together, and that circumstances forced them to rely on each other, and they kind of stuck together
I said this for the After Hours episode on "Friends" and I'll say it here: movie and TV characters are written like they're teenagers. Teenagers have unhealthy obsessions about sex, are often mean to each other for no real reason, and can even be found in odd groups of friends because of circumstances or needs. If Ferris had his own car, for example, he might not have kept hounding Cameron to drive over in *his* car. Teenagers are always trying to figure out social cues, the finer points of interacting with other human beings without being completely or even mostly inappropriate. You know what else teenagers are? The main demographic for television and movies. Writers only have to write characters who are as mature as their target audience in order to keep ratings high. Or, if you want a less cynical explanation, writers "write down" to teenagers to show them it's okay to be awkward and inappropriate because look at how awkward and inappropriate adults can be, as long as we all learn a valuable lesson about "friendship" along the way. Movies and TV shows need more adults that act like actual adults.
That fan theory aside, I thought it was also pretty heavily implied that Ferris & Cameron had been friends since grade school (when presumably their personalities hadn't settled yet) and that's why they still hung out. Maybe I'm mis-remembering.
Ian Calvert I've had a friendship like Ferris and Cameron's, too bad I was Cameron 😕 I was an outsider/loner kinda guy and my friend was rich, popular and captain of his hockey team. We still hangout from time to time do. I'm no longer an outsider/loner and he is a father of 3. Funny how time changes people.
Nope. They're both figments of John Hugh's imagination. Seriously though, the whole "Character Y is a figment of Character X's mind" formula of fan theory almost as weak sauce as the "Main characters is dead/crazy and the entire story is his delusional fantasy" bullshit. It's one of those items in the Basic Nerd Starter Pack.
+Greg Basore Haha very true. Especially since movies have to be interesting so there are more likely to be unbelievable things happening that lend credence to a theory about it all being fake. That aside this is an 80s movie so it beats the trend of those other theories a bit.
DOB, I've missed you. The recent articles chased me away, but the classics brought me back. When you beatboxed the Ferris Bueller riff, I almost spat my drink out.
I've had friends that were my polar opposite, but it usually comes down to we have common interests that tie us together when I was in highschool I had this really outgoing, I was quiet and kept to myself for the most part, friend that pushed me a little bit to come out of my shell and I needed that, but we shared common interests in movies and tv shows and stuff. I also had a friend that I basically always debated with we had common interests in shows and stuff, but we liked them for some different reasons and we always debated on the whats and whys and wasn't this cool and etc. all you really need for a friendship is common interests if you got that then you're doing just fine. you can build a connection with someone.
the last type of friendship is likely two people who have been friends for so long that it is hard to imagine the relationship starting when we see it, but actually started much earlier before that social and personality rift widened.
My best friend & I met about 30ish yrs ago in elementary school. As the yrs went by, we've stayed close, but our lives have taken completely different paths. She's the straight laced, did good in school, went to college, got married, had 2 boys, a decent job, doesn't smoke, drink much or do drugs & is just your stereotypical soccer type mom. Me on the other hand, did bad in school, no college, bummed around for awhile, became a single mom, twice, yes 2 different father's, but married the 2nd one, smokes, drinks, done the occasional bumpie, struggling to get by in life, & no exactly the soccer mom type. Yet somehow, after all these yrs & differences we are still best friends. She was with me & my mom when she passed, maid of honor at each other's weddings, there for the births of our children (or shortly thereafter), & is always the first person we call when something huge is happening. Sometimes it doesn't work, but when you're lucky & have that great connection, for some reason, it does. But yes, tv does tend to over dramatize these types of relationships.
Please do one for movie and TV show romantic relationships that don't make sense. We find the other person completely obnoxious, one or both of us treats the other terribly, we argue constantly, but we're in love! Or the couples who have little or nothing in common. Then there are ones where the husband is fat, immature, and dumb while the wife is skinny, beautiful, mature, and smart.
I knew some guys that were ALWAYS making fun of each other. Insults, messing with each others stuff, etc. I finally asked, "Why can't you ever get along?". They replied, "Nah, bro, we're best friends. We're joking". So no, for me? My relationships aren't full on roasting. For them, it was.
Chargers the Movie: In a world of Universal serial buses one group of chargers decide to throw into the world into chaos, the apple chargers. Now it is up to a bunch of ragtag USB 2.0s to prove to the overlord 3.0s that they can still be viable and take down the unnecessary stupid hipster apple chargers for good. (regarding which inanimate object hasn't had a movie yet) (Also still a better movie than The Emoji movie or Cars 2 XD)
*After the Oscar is in my hands* I'd like to thank the Academy and my man Daniel O'Brien and all of youtube for making this possible and getting an Oscar almost two decades younger than Leonardo di Caprio XD
Pixar idea: what if all smart-devices were alive? TVs, smartphones, tablets, laptops and certain refrigerators getting into all kinds of shenanigans. "Oh no, Marty's C+ card stopped working! We need to get him a new one!" or "OMG, I got a bad pixel! GET IT OFF! GET IT OFF! GET IT OFF! GET IT OFF!"
This is one of the reasons I think Sideways was so well received: because part of the movie's tension is that Miles and Jack should NOT be friends. They're seemingly opposites, and yet the movie slowly reveals what they have in common: they're both people who have glimpsed greatness but are resigning themselves to the failure of their dreams, they're both in some ways estranged from the women who are or were supposed to be their soul mates, and most importantly, they're both not good at making friends. They're former college roommates who, by nature of their inabilities to connect with people, have ended up having no other recourse but to be the closest thing to "close" that two loners can be. What in most movies is just a failure to create a believable friendship becomes part of the film's tragedy, and its charm.
Friends in real life talk casually about their sex lives all the time and make really graphic sex jokes too, it really is just like in the movies, sometimes even more graphic. It's fine if you don't like to talk about sex personally, but don't assume everyone else doesn't too or are wrong for doing so.
I don't know what type of friends you got, but the one's I have tend to understand that our sex lives and our friendship aren't supposed to intermingle too much. It's definitely not something that comes up a lot, and in a friendship, it really shouldn't. "What happens in the bedroom, Stays in the bedroom", you know, that kind of thing.
After living all over the US I have found this is more about where u live. In ohio we didn't go into details about sex but in Virginia no problem giving you a play by play.
I'm just saying, my wife would have my head on a pike if I dare tell people the play by play on what we do. And honestly, how does that even come up? "Hey Dave, you and the lady have sex?" "What'd she do to you?" "No seriously, like details man." What kinda friends ask that? What kinda friends tell them?!?
Neo Don'tKnow Same. My Best friend came to me one day and gave me a hug, and told me he just wanted me to know he cared...two hours later I had him committed to a mental hospital.... wussy
I made myself cry from laughing because of your quickly abandoned web search of jocks and nerds. Now you know what keeps the trope going. XD (That happy corner of the internet is a very large corner and it includes much more than jocks and nerds. Nothing is safe. 0.o)
You forgot to mention the implausible friendship between Daniel and Soren in the popular internet show "After Hours"
Cathal Horan Friendships are not sturdy if you don't have enough in common - I think Daniel and Soren's friendship is plausible because of a strong shared interest in television and film critical analysis, especially if the friendship is limited to group interaction and analysis. We don't see them doing other activities together, so I can believe it.
Andrew Williams r/woosh
One of my favorite things about that friendship- is that Soren inexplicably believes that Daniel does great impressions. He does not.
@@110000116699 r/woosh to you actually
I mean Chucky and Tommy are toddlers. They are friends because their parents are friends. There is literally no other way to make friends before kindergarten.
Also Tommy helps Chuckie be braver and doesn't go back to the zero point. Yeah it's a slow process, but you're building a T.V. show. It'd get boring fast if the wimpy scared kid became similar to his brave friend too quickly. I think that's a thing I liked about the series as a kid.
@@Joshua_Shadow_Manriguez Yeah, the relationship makes sense from Chucky's perspective but not Tommy's, just like Ferris and Cameron.
@@nunliski not really.
You're not wrong, but then the same question then needs to be brought up for Stu and Chaz. A mad inventor willing to fly a robotic pterodactyl off his roof; is not a logical long-term friend for a high-strung banker.
Wow, I grew up in a time when parent social groups were an organised thing. My baby sister had friends from that group, our parents only knew each other because their 3 year olds wanted to spend time together outside of the organised group. The parents became friends but that is how the families met.
I call this episode, "Daniel Pretends He Doesn't Know What Hentai Is"
Side note, I worked with a group of all married women at one point, and you've never heard a group of people talk about more nasty sex stuff more than all married women.
You think you were "experimental" in collage, well imagine having sex with the same person from 20+ years, and think about the things you'll have tried at least once. A couple married for 20 years who has sex every two weeks, will have had sex 480 times, but based one one study, couples between 18-29 had sex about twice a week, which is 2240 in 20 years.. though the same study said couples 30-39, they had sex 86 times a year so it would really be more like, 1120 the first ten years then 860 times the next ten years, thus a total of 1980 times in 20 years.
The real point is, the average married person has way more sex than almost any single person working the bar scene.
Couples between 50-59, have sex more times in one year, than you did in all of high school and collage life combined... and you wonder why grandma and pop-pop don't have much energy, it's cause they're fucking so much! Perverts!
btdtpro Can you add a tldr
It took you longer to click reply and write that, than it should have for you too just real the comment.
TLDR is for people who just read article titles, and not the article, but then feel they've been educated on the topic.
For people who want to sound knowledgeable without becoming.
Learning comes at a price, and part of that price is often utilizing ones literacy.
btdtpro ha! I literally said "oh come on" when he said that
Vexa 12 TLDR: old people who have been married for a long time have fucked the shit out of each other, probably in the nastiest and kinkiest ways imaginable.
Satisfied now?
Bart and Milhouse have similar interests
Also, they're both picked on by the same bullies
and while bullies are absent Bart picks on Milhouse without restraint.
except for the few episodes where Bart has to learn that Milhouses have feelings too ...
so no way they'd be friends in real life, unless Milhouse sees abuse as a reward
The answer to 1 is always that their parents made them hang out as children, and they just kept up the friendship and/or they are neighbors. Also I have had friendships like that but not as exaggerated, which I expect movies and TV to be, at least a little.
Yeah, and Tommy and Chuckie was a bad example anyway. They are babies, not like they have much of a choice who they hang out with.
Nofxthepirate And in highschool, at least in my experience, your friends are the people who laugh at your jokes/the person who sat next to you that one time
Yeah i have some close friends, that i dont really have that much in common with at all in terms of interests and values. But we grew up together and just really understand eachother well, so its a great friendship.
Ive had the exact archetype friendship before and it was a neighbor
Zack and Screech was specifically explained in a flashback, Zack has always been that in charge, and he needed a minion when he entered elementary school. It was reused in all the Saved By the Bell clones, like Parker Louis Just Can't Lose.
Having various friendships with people I have little to nothing in common with I can tell you that they are real. Once two people have been together in a situation where they helped each other out on a regular basis, a bond grows. Then you focus on the few things you have in common movies, music, TV, or whatever.
The best friendships aren't the ones you'll have the most fun with. They're the ones where you can trust the other person to be there when you need them. Yeah, I have more fun with some of my buddies, but if my car breaks down on the interstate at midnight in another state with no Uber, toe truck, or cab to be found, I know who come. And I'd go for them to, cause at the end of the day we've had each other's backs so long, not being there for them isn't even a question.
LogicBeforeNorms thank you. I thought this exactly. This week I met up with my good friends from High School as we were all in our home town for Christmas. We all have diverging personalities and interests but remain close due to childhood and family bonds. Our differences enrich our relationships not stifle them. Life would be boring if we surrounded ourselves by perfect clones of one another. I think that is the point this guy misses.
Did you just say "toe truck"?
So... we are going to ignore the Soren, Daniel dynamic in After Hours? Cool.
Excellent point.
If Soren told me he was friends with Daniel, my first question would be, "how's the sex", cause you know they'd be doing it.
They're both nerds.
I don't know, Soren is kind of messed up. He's also nowhere near as cool as he thinks he is.
Hanging out with the meek and nerdy Daniel and the dumb Michael gives him the perfect opportunity to feel cool, smart, handsome and just all over superior.
And at the same time they clearly enjoy arguing about pop culture together.
I'd rather question why Katie is hanging out with the other three but I wouldn't be surprised if she was there for the same reasons that I assume for Soren.
I think the Daniel, Michael dynamic from...pretty much everything but especially Agents of Cracked, would also be a good example. How could that one work?
I always figured that Ferris and Cameron were childhood friends. But maybe that's cause I was a Cameron in High School.
sorvian25 That's what I always figured to. Like they met in elementary school or early on in junior high. You *do* tend to see friendships like that when people are younger more often.
I just assumed he was a sociopath and knew he could manipulate Cameron.
Another version of the script had the whole plot of the movie was Ferris was trying to give Cameron a day to actually have fun because when he was younger he had a tightly wound friend who turned to drugs: Charlie Sheen.
It's kind of the same thing with the Rugrats. Those two have dads who are friends with each other, so they get together for play dates and things. Just by being around a person a bunch, they grow into friendship. Or don't, but not in these cases.
It's simple.
Jocky and/or popular types gravitate to nerdy and/or nervous types for easy manipulation and fall guys.
The vice-versa is that the nervous nerd craves popularity, validation, etcetera and gets it (however fake) in that relationship.
The Jock/Nerd friendship cliche is brought up in 21 Jump Street and explored deeper in 22 Jump Street. It's actually a clever, somewhat subtle theme throughout the whole film that some friendships are sturdy because of how different the people are, Yin and Yang; when two exactly similar people hang out there's no spark. I'd highly recommend both films to anyone reading, as funny and silly as they are, they are also incredibly well made films that actually carry a meaning or two.
Also you sit next to Soren at the After Hours table soooooo.........
I love the Jump Street movies! You are totally correct about them. They dissect their own logic, but it never feels cheap and is consistently funny. (Dan/Soren fo life)
Friendships are not sturdy if you don't have enough in common. Think about all of your friendships and how similar or not you are - there will be some fundamental commonality that binds you. If not, then it's a shitty friendship filled with boredom and alienation.
Ferris and Cameron were friends because in an earlier draft of the script Ferris met a troubled guy and tried to help him but he didn't and the guy committed suicide and Ferris felt responsible and so that's why he hangs out with this equally troubled guy as sort of a pennance for that.
Didn't watch until the very end then
@@bigdaveowens76 based on the fact that this comment is word for word identical to what DOB says, I would assume he did watch to the end of the video.
Lost it at "and THAT is the kind of thing that stops research in its tracks!"
"I'm glad you found each other." did it for me.
Your face makes me wanna drop to my knees and worship whatever God is hiding behind those clouds... That is all
Me and some of my best friends for the past 10 years have next to nothing in common. All you really need is a similar sense of humor and to like the other person and I don't think the rest really matters. And the most explicable situation in Saved By the Bell is Screech sold weed, Zach bought weed from him and they started smoking together.
pianist150 Friendships are not sturdy if you don't have enough in common. Think about all of your friendships and how similar or not you are - there will be some fundamental commonality that binds you. I don't think it's just humour, that's not enough for a real friendship. There must be more in common than you recognise.
Unless your friendships are so superficial and empty that you just tell a few jokes and then sit in silence? That might be enough for you if you have social difficulties.
Andrew Williams That is true about bonds such as friendships and love. There has to be something both share.
wasn't there an episode where Zack says that he doesn't approve of weed because some celebrity was smoking it in the restroom?
Daniel: the best thing about Cracked.
There's a reason he's head of the video team! Totally knocks it out of the park video after video
No way the best member is that big dumb Philip Rivers looking dude on After Hours.
Do you mean Michael swaim? cause if you do, you should watch agents of cracked. It has both Michael and Daniel in it.
By far. Like seriously by far. DOB and Swaim are the MVPs of cracked.
Bobby Down yes
...and that’s the sorta thing that stops research right in its tracks... 😂 🤣😆
MsMadHatter you’re the first person who I have seen commenting on that, I’m seriously surprised not many people have
Sabina Tsang I laughed so hard I couldn’t breathe and I was thinking I have to it’s so good!
Ah yes, that second one. You missed the most relevant clip!
"So anyway, how is your sex life?"
Luka Saracen I was totally thinking that
Luka Saracen What
Christian B The Room starring Hollywood weirdo Tommy Wiseau
Oh, hi Mark.
Zack and Screech DOES make sense though. Screech just loves and idolises Zack and that's why he does whatever Zack tells him to do. No matter how crazy. And Zack keeps him around coz like I said...Screech literally does anything he's told....he is practically like his servant in a weird way. So why not keep him around
Yep
Soooo Zack is a controlling bastard and screech is s character who never came out?
His bitch
No, unlike Ferris and Cameron, I think Zack and Screech really were friends. How this happened is unknown, but I do believe it's genuine.
You should search for 'Zack Morris is trash'. It really opens your eyes to the shitty way Zack treats everybody around him.
I wonder if in Daniel's research of nerd/jock relationships he found any fan content of himself and Soren.
I wondered this too, so I found an alarming amount of Soren/Daniel fanfiction on archive of our own, going back to 2013
The 'Implausible Friendship' is actually very real. It is the basic concept that friends usually start off liking the same stuff, but as they grow, their families, their talents, and the fact they aren't the same person, causes them to develop diverging interests and personas. Zack and Screech give us a glint of this, because before Saved by the Bell, they were in Good Morning Miss Bliss, and we saw that Screech was the odd-man out, it was Zack and Mikey, with Screech as more the geek they used and felt pity for... when Mikey departed between the two series, Screech was still there, and he grew on Zack. Screech is loyal, he is Zack's best friend and Zack is Screech's best friend, and yet both have separate cliques that they interact with, Zack has the cool kids, Screech has the Nerds, in Saved by the Bell they introduced Jessie as Zack's True Best Friend, the literal Girl Next Door who is never interested in Zack and Zack is never interested in her (despite, in my opinion, her always being the hottest girl in the cast, by far). The essential Canon of the Series is that Jessie was in a private school for middle school, but has always been there, her, Mikey, and Zack, and Screech all live on the same Block, they grew up in the same neighborhood, they were friends because they watched the same shows, wanted the same toys, and played the same games, but as they aged, Mikey moved away, Jessie went to a different school and was a girl, Zack took after his dad, and Screech got weird. Their friendship is realistic, but it only works if you accept that they have been friends since they were small children, and it only starts to strain credulity when you get something like Screech and Slater, Nerd and Jock, only friends of friends, who somehow become really chummy despite having zip in common besides the same school and small handful of mutual friends.
I found Screech everyone!
@@junghunt8645 in some ways not an untruth, I was the nerd all through school, I was the outcast, and I was awkward. Differences come in that in middle school I outgrew my physical awkwardness and became athletic, and I never was a teacher's pet type.
Ryan from High School Musical, with Harold Wormser (the original too smart for his age and society Nerd), and a bit of Jerry from Parker Lewis can't Lose would probably be a far more accurate description of me, but GMMB/SBtB Universe never had a character that would really fit reality, going more for cookie cutter stereotypes.
If I'm remembering right, the Hangover friendship between Brad Cooper and Ed Helms is that they are both friends with the groom (whoever that was) but not really friends with each other. That's a real thing.
Yeah the smartest guy in our class--good grades with no studying, well read just because he read so fast and absorbed information so easily, hot, athletic, etc etc and the accidental class clown--clumsy, socially awkward, poor grades... were and are best friends to this day. I don't pretend to understand, that's just facts.
Lynette Miller gnay niy ecnereffid tcaratta
My best friend is smokes pot, drinks, swears, and lives with his girlfriend (whom he describes their sex life on occasion). I'm a drug-free, wait-til-marriage virgin who never swears and doesn't even drink caffeinated beverages. We're best friends over our love of American Dad and video games. Could that be a movie?
Buttonmstr you two should fight crime.
^^Agreed^^
A film about a tedious, generic friendship with low stakes, and a tedious, generic TV series?
Wow. I'd never heard that bit about why Ferris and Cameron are friends. I am glad they didn't put that in the movie. There's already enough about Ferris to make a popular interpretations that Ferris is a sociopath without them deciding that Ferris' best friendship is based on obligation.
5:08 - It's called a "Mastermind," when two people neatly complement one another by compensating for each other's flaws. One will be impulsive; one will be cautious. One will be sensitive; the other will be ruthless. One will be creative; the other will be conservative. When they're working together, they have basically zero flaws because their strengths cancel out each other's weaknesses.
Cool! I want to look into it now.
My parents
Thars bs
I've rewatched OPCD a few times now.. Dan is gold. I love this show
I think it's more common for women to discuss their sex lives than for men. And the jock/nerd friendships are things that exist due to being childhood friends that just care about each other as they get older.
My life, right there. Though, it's mostly males I discuss sex with. I do talk about it with the girls, sometimes, though.
P Bunny Nah we don't go around talking about it either
As a lady with 95% lady friends and co-workers, I would say that we do not.
Sat next to an attractive young woman on the bus I saw her texting to one of her friends about the size of her current boyfriend's "cock" (luckily for him it was because it was on the large side).
No way do I believe women don't discuss their sexual escapades with one another. The on-screen trope for this is woman saying in advance of a date that they will want 'all the details' later. I've seen this a million times; and I've also seen it said on-screen by male gays too i.e. it's a girl thing. As I explained in another post here the reasons why guys don't discuss the sex they have with other guys, there are reasons why women *would* do so with their female friends. For a start, women's menstrual cycles are known to synchronize and the biological purpose of this is so that they can ALL be ready if a potent stud comes along to pick the best of them. They don't know who he will pick but they will all want him to pick them (given that he's an Alpha male and especially strong and dominant etc.); and they also know that men come with a 'six shooter' and will be happy to 'spread the love' if he gets the chance. Those women will make sure he gets the chance if their friends' reports of him are good.
But people drift apart by go to different schools, making new friends, move to another place etc. I'm not friends with anyone I knew from junior school like it shows in movies and tv
To answer the final question about improbable friendships, I raise you the following:
Screech/ Cameron thinks he can become cooler by associating with Zach/ Ferris, who in turn (despite their favorable looks and personality) have self-esteem issues, and enjoy the adoration.
Ferris and Cameron and Zach and Screech are probably friends because they were childhood friends that haven't yet realised they have drifted apart.
That makes the most sense. Some of my opposite friendships growing up started when we had common interests, but as we grew older, we went in different directions.
I know that the "friends talking about sex" thing gets overplayed and almost always is associated with groups of men, but I have to say that the trope is somewhat accurate for groups of women. I don't know if it's dealing with strict masculinity/"no homo", but I definitely talked about explicit things with a few of my closest female friends.
To be fair, the "get out, you doofus!" line from 'Friends' was Monica talking to Ross, her brother, not her friend...*adjusts glasses*
5pid3rman80 but why do her and her brother hang out at all.
ameliorated he was dating Rachel, Monica's friend and roommate, in fact, the episode was about how, since they started dating, he was over there all the time
Is it that weird to hang out with your brother?
As a man I will admit there's only 3 times I talk about sex. 1) When it was REAL crazy. 2) When it funny. 3) When the physics of how 2 other people did it baffle me.
Can you put the "OPCD" at the beginning of the title? So we know that the video is worth watching?
The mean friends trope is stupid; and likely perpetuated by those who don't understand how to do it. Such as one time at my one job, a coworker and I had separate duties, but would cross paths as we worked. One of us would make a negative comment about the other, they would retort, we would go back and forth once or twice more, then stop. One day a new coworker tried to join in, but she seemed to think the joke was entirely about making fun of me; and did not understand the part about stopping; nor did she recognize the hints we both were dropping that essentially meant, "shut up." We worked at a very busy gas station, and made fun of each other as a means of relieving stress because we could not yell at the customers that got on our nerves; and even though the majority of people are no problem, it only takes one asshole to ruin your day.
We need way more OPCD and After Hours.
Hunter Duncan, Yes they're the best parts of the channel!
Really just those two things and nothing else, please.
Yes! Really the only ones I watch. Funny, they both include Daniel!
You know it's funny, I have this gal pal, who swears up and down that she just "knows" that all men do is sit around talking about their sex lives. When in fact she has told me more than I ever wanted to hear about her sex partners over the past 15 years than any five male friends of mine, combined, have said in my entire life. The fact is if you are over the age of 10 you don't want to hear about what people are doing behind closed doors. And I sure as hell don't want to be put in the position where I'm sitting in a room next to someone's GF who I've been told likes taking it in the ass, or the guy who likes getting dressed up like a catholic school girl and getting whipped with a candy can stripped boa. Talk about awkward.
I am surprised there was no mention of That 70's show, those guys are the worst friends ever :P
_Scrubs_ was worse.
The League has them all beat.
The people on "Friends" shouldn't be friends, but "It's Always Sunny" probably consists of the worst group of friends/relatives.
True, but at least with 'Always Sunny' there's an understanding and knowing that they are all completely toxic for one another.
Letty Lunasical True. They never made it look like they should be friends.
Being fair milhouse acts more like a subordinate to bart than a best friend 90% of the time.
He clearly has never had a British friend. 90% of our relationships is being mean to each other. It's how we say I love you.
He clearly doesn't have any Man friends.... We talk about sex. A lot. Whether about with our women or with ones we wish we could. This dude is just weird.
I do both with my bestie. And we're both gals. We shit talk each other all the time. And sexy stuff isn't an excuse unusual conversation topic between us. I knew girls in secondary school that talked more about sex than we do (no guys though cause it was an all girls school.)
Josh Hodson that also is true of those on the east coast. Everyone is bullshiting their friends in nearly every sentence.
Yeah this confused me for a while, me and my friends are always insulting each other, insults which would apparently trigger most Americans.
“Oi you, wanker, f**k off” is basically the same as saying “I love you man” isn’t it.
Fake friends act nice and suck up to you in case they want to use you in the future. Real friends roast you and call you out on a regular basis...
Jarl Ballin' theres a difference between roasting you and telling you what you need to know for your own good. A close friend is someone who you mostly have good times with, not someone who is mean because both of you are "close".
Man I must be completely living in a movie universe as I am in friendships with all types of people. In fact as I have gotten older and have worked different jobs I would say that I have ended up with friends that are complete opposites to me. I have always had friends from different walks of life. It makes life fun interesting and while yeah you have a couple of people you can only take in small dosages. It's the differences that makes a friendship interesting.
Imedge what are you? 24? Shit the f up kiddo
leprechaunluck24 I am the same way I have always kept my variety of friends very eclectic. From street walkers to Mormons to partiers to Comic-Con goers. Fat to skinny, tom boy to girly girl, gay to straight, crazy to depressed or extreamly happy. From 85 to 20's. I have never stuck to one group or click of people I imagine that being very closed minded and boring.
Well, this heavily depends on your definition of friend - is a coworker a friend? Is your best friend really a polar opposite of yourself? I know a lot of people that are different from me - some of them I see quite regularly. There are so many more shades of this: comrade, acquaintance, mentor, mate or brothers in spirit - but I wouldn’t classify those as friends. But I get what you’re saying.
Flo Ri yes actual friends who i hang out with and have been friends with for years. Not some coworker or some acquaintance. When i call someone my friend it holds its meaning. And yes my two best friends are complete opposite of me and eachother.
As a psychologist, I appreciate the use of "Asocial" in this episode.
@@bigblue4270
Same. Being smart is so hard.
TV seems to think the totality of friendships is roasting, which is insane." Daniel clearly doesn't have black friends. We will meet up specifically to roast each other for hours and love it.
Or as the rest of us call it, a rap battle. More seriously, we Scottish have done the same for a long time too. We called it flyting.
Well not all of us are like that or that skin colour.
Not all black guys! ( and am black).
I have a black friend and we mostly roast ourselves. We have severe self-esteem issues.
How did Dan become my celebrity crush?
When id Dan become a celebrity?
If that’s true, you’re a loser.
I want me some DOB too. It just hit me hard one day during Agents of Cracked 💔
Ferris (who names their kid Ferris, anyway) hangs out with Cameron because he's rich and a pushover. Cameron hangs out with Ferris because he has no other friends.
Rowynne Crowley Ferris is derived from ferrous meaning iron, so a farrier (horse shoe maker/iron worker) a sanguanous person (someone with a ruddy complexion or red hair or who was a particularly blood thirsty) or some other link to iron would be the source of the name then the name would gain an association with strength (like iron) resulting in a noble and strong name that seems stupid, then chances are one of his parents heard it and liked it or, less likely, it was a family name, and even less likely they knew the origins of the name and wanted to distill such qualities in their child so he was thus named
Sorry i am a nerd when it comes to names
Constant Chaos You missed the point. It is a shit name
Actually its not necessarily a shit name, but it is a unique name that if chose for the right reasons is a very good name, but yeah no, they probably didn't put any though into it so in that case yeah it is a shit name
Ferris is in Cameron's head. That's why Ferris calls him to respond to things he couldn't have heard Cam say. "You're not dying, ..."
will the next episode ACTUALLY be next month, or will it be two like the spanse between last and this one? I'VE MISSED YOU SO MUCH OPCD & DJ NOB!!!!
"that didn't feel good trickling out the old hole" says Smooth D.
I'm literally only best friends with people who are my polar opposite; I hate myself, and I hate people who are just like me.
I tend to feel fairly uncomfortable talking about sex with my male friends, but my female friends and I talk (more) explicitly about our sex lives way more frequently
I am, yes.
Sam Harris Those gender neutral names
It's a blessing and a curse
Just because you dont talk to your friends about sex it doesn't mean friends don't talk about sex with other friends.
Because you are opposite to a person personality doesn't mean you can't be friends with theme, there is always at least one thing people have in common.
This list makes me cringe
I was told 30 years ago that no-one likes to hear about your sex life, and it's disrespectful to your girlfriend so I never have.
Ian Macfarlane shit's changed.
30 years ago, people thought the internet was a passing fad. and people were doing coke, dancing, and fucking (all at the same time).
what im trying to say is. fuck the 80s. they're hypocrites
Playfulpanthress whoa dude a bit mad much? I'm 22 I'd take being a 90s kid over being an 80s kid any day. all generations of human suck 80s is just a focal point. i wasn't going for accuracy i was making a point
Playfulpanthress also the internet is 45 years old bro
Playfulpanthress you call me a kid yet you use words like epic fail? go back to 9gag/Reddit/wherever your kind congregates
"That 70's Show" was the worst violator. the way they all took such immense sadistic pleasure in eachothers misery all the time was just too over the top stupid
some how they missed one of the most famous polar opposite friends that's Shawn and Cory from boy meets world.
Lemuel Hogue nah, that friendship makes total sense. They are pretty different but that's how it is in real life
Lemuel Hogue Nah, they had different personalities but liked a lot of the same things. That's a valid friendship.
Well they also started off as friends from youth. The only thing really opposite about them was social class and looks and Corey wasn't ugly he just wasn't the obvious heart throb.
Normally me and my friends are polar opposites 😂 Normally our group attracts attention of how weird it looks to some people, as some of my friends dress in band uniforms, others all black, others always dress fashionable and others just plain normal. (On the outside look, but also personality wise). I think our friendship is based that we all hear and understand each other. They are better at things im not so offers me advice when I need it and i do the same for them. Diverse friendship, even if polar oposite, can be functional for some poeple as it opens them to a world they didn't knew with different experiences and exposure to different tastes which foments tolerance 😊
these writers obviously don't have real friends
exactly.
TV show: shows people being mean to each other for a few hours over an entire year.
This guy: "yeah, but people don't do that the whole time"
I like to hang out with people opposite of me I am shy and quiet and logical my friend is loud and crazy she helps me break out of my shell and I keep her from going to prison it works
Chinedu Opara not her but me and my fiance have a very similar relationship we are very much opposites and yes I do fuck him
Samantha Lytton my husband is decisive and knows how to make decisions on things I can never do (I stereotypically can never choose food), but when it comes to stuff I really can choose on, he lets me have sole say. I guess a good partnership is they are kinda opposite. They fill in the blanks, stuff you don't do, they do, stuff they don't do, you do. (Same with positive personality traits.)
I have to agree. My husband and I have been together for almost 10 years and we're polar opposites. He's a social butterfly, extrovert, witty. I'm a total introvert, hate crowds, and usually think things through methodically. It doesn't matter how much people are opposite of each other, if they really care about their relationship, they'll work past it to make it work :)
To the sex point, HIMYM has Marshal say that "locker room talk" doesn't happen in the locker room.
Thank you thank you thank you I've missed Daniel so much I can't even...thank you.
Bro, sometimes people are friends just because they like each other. Had nothing to do with what they have in common.
I'm so in love with DjNob. Anyone else? No, just me? Really?
conejitoasesinoOG I too have a thing for DjNob
The name, or the guy?
Rowynne Crowley definitely both
Yeah I don't really understand how he doesn't have a girlfriend. He sure has enough of a fan following. I also think he's the most attractive of the After Hours crew (sorry Sorin, I think Daniel's cuter).
I prefer "Smooth D."
We missed you, DJ Nob! We want more Nob.
DJ Nob? at least your initials aren't DJ MILF like mine. :/
What is your name if Marushka isn't your first name?
I go by my middle ish name because I share my first two names with grandmothers.
Strange but cool!
so your first name starts with a d? and so on?
That's a lot of initials. You have 6 names?
“He’s magic and she’s perfect” best quote I’ve heard this year
Next to after hours this is my favorite cracked show
Kind of ironic from the guy who sits directly next to Soren Bowie's character in after hours
Hey Dan have you seen the Beauty and the Beast live action remake yet? They fixed that thing you hate about the disappearing castle staff/villagers.
I do want to say that I have seen polar opposite friends happen in two situations: they had one thing in common that they really like and can brought them together, and that circumstances forced them to rely on each other, and they kind of stuck together
All my friends are both awul to me and awful people. Me included. i love us, we're the best
We also all know every time any of us has had sex play by play
ALSO, I am a loser stoner nerd and my friends are hot and popular
I am confident that we are in fact living the best TV show ever
SvemirZeka you and your friends are being shitty people - as you age you will only keep the people you like as friends
I said this for the After Hours episode on "Friends" and I'll say it here: movie and TV characters are written like they're teenagers. Teenagers have unhealthy obsessions about sex, are often mean to each other for no real reason, and can even be found in odd groups of friends because of circumstances or needs. If Ferris had his own car, for example, he might not have kept hounding Cameron to drive over in *his* car. Teenagers are always trying to figure out social cues, the finer points of interacting with other human beings without being completely or even mostly inappropriate. You know what else teenagers are? The main demographic for television and movies. Writers only have to write characters who are as mature as their target audience in order to keep ratings high. Or, if you want a less cynical explanation, writers "write down" to teenagers to show them it's okay to be awkward and inappropriate because look at how awkward and inappropriate adults can be, as long as we all learn a valuable lesson about "friendship" along the way. Movies and TV shows need more adults that act like actual adults.
Agree!
That is 100% right. They want the kids to think the people on tv are like them. If they wrote adults in movies like their parents they'd not watch it.
Ferris is a figment of Cameron's imagination.
That fan theory aside, I thought it was also pretty heavily implied that Ferris & Cameron had been friends since grade school (when presumably their personalities hadn't settled yet) and that's why they still hung out. Maybe I'm mis-remembering.
Ian Calvert I've had a friendship like Ferris and Cameron's, too bad I was Cameron 😕 I was an outsider/loner kinda guy and my friend was rich, popular and captain of his hockey team. We still hangout from time to time do. I'm no longer an outsider/loner and he is a father of 3. Funny how time changes people.
Nope. They're both figments of John Hugh's imagination.
Seriously though, the whole "Character Y is a figment of Character X's mind" formula of fan theory almost as weak sauce as the "Main characters is dead/crazy and the entire story is his delusional fantasy" bullshit. It's one of those items in the Basic Nerd Starter Pack.
+Greg Basore Haha very true. Especially since movies have to be interesting so there are more likely to be unbelievable things happening that lend credence to a theory about it all being fake. That aside this is an 80s movie so it beats the trend of those other theories a bit.
DOB, I've missed you. The recent articles chased me away, but the classics brought me back.
When you beatboxed the Ferris Bueller riff, I almost spat my drink out.
Also, for your cartoon movie, do one about a piece of litter making its way to the great promised gathering out in the Pacific.
I want to be in that very specific corner of the internet
This is my favorite pre-endplate outro in all of OPCD. We love and miss you terribly, Daniel the Maniel O'Brien The Lion.
That 40 year old virgin scene will always make me cringe lol
Gosh! I love the way you're mind works! I could listen to you deconstruct everything I know about movies ALL DAY LONG!
I've had friends that were my polar opposite, but it usually comes down to we have common interests that tie us together when I was in highschool I had this really outgoing, I was quiet and kept to myself for the most part, friend that pushed me a little bit to come out of my shell and I needed that, but we shared common interests in movies and tv shows and stuff.
I also had a friend that I basically always debated with we had common interests in shows and stuff, but we liked them for some different reasons and we always debated on the whats and whys and wasn't this cool and etc.
all you really need for a friendship is common interests if you got that then you're doing just fine. you can build a connection with someone.
Daniel, your OPD videos are the best thing on Cracked. Please never stop talking in that stilted, over-eager way.
I love the way he speaks.
LOL, goddammit you are witty! I love all of these cracked videos, especially this one and After Hours. Keep'm coming please! Great work!
Hate to admit this but, i based my relationships on sitcoms. I wish I had more attentive parents.
I’m a 40-year-old heterosexual man with a wife and kids, and I think Dan O’Brien is so damn cute.
yeees! DOB is back!
the last type of friendship is likely two people who have been friends for so long that it is hard to imagine the relationship starting when we see it, but actually started much earlier before that social and personality rift widened.
B-b-but my best friend and I are polar opposites and it works well
Dude you're my new hero as well as new favorite youtube/internet personality.
I feel like every episode of this series he makes a small part of his brain died. Its the only explicable explanation.
DJ Nob! I'm 13 seconds in and already can't stop laughing.
Rebuttal to point 3, Dan and Soren.
My best friend & I met about 30ish yrs ago in elementary school. As the yrs went by, we've stayed close, but our lives have taken completely different paths. She's the straight laced, did good in school, went to college, got married, had 2 boys, a decent job, doesn't smoke, drink much or do drugs & is just your stereotypical soccer type mom. Me on the other hand, did bad in school, no college, bummed around for awhile, became a single mom, twice, yes 2 different father's, but married the 2nd one, smokes, drinks, done the occasional bumpie, struggling to get by in life, & no exactly the soccer mom type. Yet somehow, after all these yrs & differences we are still best friends. She was with me & my mom when she passed, maid of honor at each other's weddings, there for the births of our children (or shortly thereafter), & is always the first person we call when something huge is happening. Sometimes it doesn't work, but when you're lucky & have that great connection, for some reason, it does. But yes, tv does tend to over dramatize these types of relationships.
Another great OPCD from the ol' Smooth D.
Please do one for movie and TV show romantic relationships that don't make sense. We find the other person completely obnoxious, one or both of us treats the other terribly, we argue constantly, but we're in love! Or the couples who have little or nothing in common. Then there are ones where the husband is fat, immature, and dumb while the wife is skinny, beautiful, mature, and smart.
OPCD and After Hours are the only reasosn I come to cracked.
I knew some guys that were ALWAYS making fun of each other. Insults, messing with each others stuff, etc. I finally asked, "Why can't you ever get along?". They replied, "Nah, bro, we're best friends. We're joking".
So no, for me? My relationships aren't full on roasting. For them, it was.
Chargers the Movie: In a world of Universal serial buses one group of chargers decide to throw into the world into chaos, the apple chargers. Now it is up to a bunch of ragtag USB 2.0s to prove to the overlord 3.0s that they can still be viable and take down the unnecessary stupid hipster apple chargers for good. (regarding which inanimate object hasn't had a movie yet) (Also still a better movie than The Emoji movie or Cars 2 XD)
crestofreliability You should win a goddamm Oscar
*After the Oscar is in my hands* I'd like to thank the Academy and my man Daniel O'Brien and all of youtube for making this possible and getting an Oscar almost two decades younger than Leonardo di Caprio XD
Pixar idea: what if all smart-devices were alive? TVs, smartphones, tablets, laptops and certain refrigerators getting into all kinds of shenanigans. "Oh no, Marty's C+ card stopped working! We need to get him a new one!" or "OMG, I got a bad pixel! GET IT OFF! GET IT OFF! GET IT OFF! GET IT OFF!"
Well, I'd be your girlfriend, but I'm not a girl.
This is one of the reasons I think Sideways was so well received: because part of the movie's tension is that Miles and Jack should NOT be friends. They're seemingly opposites, and yet the movie slowly reveals what they have in common: they're both people who have glimpsed greatness but are resigning themselves to the failure of their dreams, they're both in some ways estranged from the women who are or were supposed to be their soul mates, and most importantly, they're both not good at making friends. They're former college roommates who, by nature of their inabilities to connect with people, have ended up having no other recourse but to be the closest thing to "close" that two loners can be. What in most movies is just a failure to create a believable friendship becomes part of the film's tragedy, and its charm.
Friends in real life talk casually about their sex lives all the time and make really graphic sex jokes too, it really is just like in the movies, sometimes even more graphic. It's fine if you don't like to talk about sex personally, but don't assume everyone else doesn't too or are wrong for doing so.
It's the exception, dude. Not the norm.
I don't know what type of friends you got, but the one's I have tend to understand that our sex lives and our friendship aren't supposed to intermingle too much. It's definitely not something that comes up a lot, and in a friendship, it really shouldn't.
"What happens in the bedroom, Stays in the bedroom", you know, that kind of thing.
After living all over the US I have found this is more about where u live. In ohio we didn't go into details about sex but in Virginia no problem giving you a play by play.
I'm just saying, my wife would have my head on a pike if I dare tell people the play by play on what we do. And honestly, how does that even come up? "Hey Dave, you and the lady have sex?" "What'd she do to you?" "No seriously, like details man." What kinda friends ask that? What kinda friends tell them?!?
You and your friends are weird.
i miss this
Um actually my friends and I only give each other shit so...
Me too. I'd be worried if they were nice to me.
Neo Don'tKnow Same. My Best friend came to me one day and gave me a hug, and told me he just wanted me to know he cared...two hours later I had him committed to a mental hospital.... wussy
I made myself cry from laughing because of your quickly abandoned web search of jocks and nerds. Now you know what keeps the trope going. XD (That happy corner of the internet is a very large corner and it includes much more than jocks and nerds. Nothing is safe. 0.o)